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NV94 - Yeah VanDerBussche the Rookie destroyed him with a left..pretty bloody too...and why i clled him the Human Puching Bag!....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfLKpuxdrFU..was a big deal

And thinking about the JT MIller saga, it's mazing how much sway and impct these Hockey insiders nd bozo bloggers hve on everything with their "inforamtion" no matter how wrong or right....BTW, Cockmamey of Carolina rumored to be going for MIller had two goals tonight!

Hospo......wasn't Kyprios as a Leaf a bad one too ? It's probably gonna come for the kid sooner than later but like you I don't really want to see it. He has chosen this route to play in the NHL. For now he can just be our lucky rabbit's foot. I think our record is pretty good with him in the line-up :) Not bad for a guy who some people (not you ) doesn't think he belongs in the league?

ANDREI - I'll go to the penalty box for tht "everyone" post because i misread..That said, I stand by my take on BORGEN..who has a simple do no harm job beside MIller who has been lights out all over the ice

ANDREI - Who is "everyone"?..anybody but you and only you re right? Whatever...Personally, I think BORGEN has far from cemented himself as anything ( just watch Sunday's game) though i think he has played some solid games (But, a UFA to be).....AS for Kakkao, yep, I think he is going to a really good player, the one that played with Cuylle and Chytl..but only time will tell...As for AK34, he maily stys on the perimiter and is fairly slow but I have been pleasantly surprised with his shot and his smart offensive instincts..And, hey, if I'm wrong or right, who gives a fuck?

When Fox is fully healthy, he is a top 5 d-man in the game. Plain and simple. Once again, Borgen - Miller pair had a fantastic game. Was never fan of Kaliev, but if kid continue playing like this, he is worth investing into. Problem with him always was his consistency and his skating. Skating have not preventing him so far, and as long as Kaliev stays engaged, it was a great pickup by Drury. Funny part, everyone who complains about how terrible return for Kappo was, Borgen have so far had filled the biggest void team had in month, and Kappo's spot on the wing, is now filled with Kaliev. Would say that Fox's resurgence and Borgen cementing that 2nd pair on D, which now plays a shut down role against other team's best lines, are the main factors why Rangers are actually have a very good shot at making the playoffs. So maybe, just maybe Drury's scouting teams knows a thing or two?

Bottom line is he is playing well now and, a biggie, not being overused...Only 20 mins tonight

NEWFIE - I want REMPS to play every game, but I have two probs with him....The big one is the coach up till tonight wouldn't play him and 2) he's gonna get destroyed in a fight one of these nights and i don't want to see that! Visions of GILLIES and HOSPODAR!!

Hospo that might be true but guys who can't skate don't last as long as good skater's. Plus his shot is soooo weak.

Fox must have been pacing himself for the 4 nations thing. Man, hope I am wrong on that.

VCP - Fox at his best is a very good D-man,,He has looked quicker nd even tougher the last few games..It's a good sign

Well it has been said they have to win at a ridiculous pace just to get into the POs. So far they are doing their part. Not sure they can sustain a pace of getting nearly 3/4 of remaining possible points, but maybe it will be a fun ride to watch. Better than losing.

Wow...where is all this Rempe love coming from all of a sudden....geeeez ,he was chopped liver on here the other day..LOL

2 points out of a WC spot. We knocked the Sens out of 3rd place in their decision.

I was shocked when Lardi started the 2nd PP unit at the end there. Hehe, it only takes being up by 5! And they were rusty! Wonder why?

Fox is still too slow and has no shot. He relies on Brains..I still trade him for a boatload....

Wouldn't have guessed it, but CHYTL led all forwards in Ice time..OTOH, pretty obvious that ZBAD is the 4th best C on the team right now at ES

MILLER with another 23 mins of very strong play..been going on for awhile...Rangers D doesn't hit all that much but they block shots and get the sticks in the way

BTW; Adam Fox has very quietly put together a nice string of games. At both ends of the ice.

Not to take anything away from the Rangers, but is that Ottawa's team? They have to be missing injured players, right?

Rempe should have gotten a star instead of Laff. I guess Lardass would say Z-Minus was the best player out there!

Very good team effort..Good Team D..Three Lines played well....Good special tems..Keep the point streak going

WwWOW! Senators just stand there with 30-seconds left! Ooof! That’s a horrible look!

NC - My post fro ma week ago...T.ue Jan 14 2025 10:24 pm EST ...OTOH, everybody plays better when Rempe the Rabbits foot is in the lineup!

NCRanger - I gotta give you credit for summoning up that post with a 5-0 game!! Just busting your chops

Prestige Worldwide, lol. I just don’t see how this team as currently constructed is a threat and continues to win. Good lord does Ott look horrible this game. And the Laff PP1 experiment is over. Lavy just so predictable. Lol. NYR - worst Prospect developing team in the league.

PJ: I see Dale Doback from Stepbrothers...John C. Reilly's character "Boats and hoes!"

Long time since we had a laugher,certainly not the Sens team I watched come back on Saturday ...

anyone notice Rempe did the Barron Trump goal celebration after scoring ? this kid is even more of a legend than what we ever known....

Glad Panarina can at lest score on a PP! Lets get this game back to ES so we see what happens

Wow, Fuck Joe and Sam..trying to explain it away for Ottwa..I know he tried a little but still

Yeah, let’s let the same group get every single second of PP time while winning 3-0

andrei: No I hate cowardly shit players. Tbat pile of trash will always mouth off and try to get guys to fight him but picks on guys he knows he won’t fight. Like he did earlier with Rempe. I hate those guys. Rangers or not. Especially when they physically try to cause injuries to players. They are not Avwry types jsut being mouthy. Tochuck tried to injure guys to upset other teams.

Tkachuk is a player you love when he is on your team and despise when you play against him.

Schneider with his second brutal give-a-way of the game, that led to all of that madness! Every game, it seems, one of our d-men have massive screw-ups!

Good to see Rempe being rewarded with the goal. Don't care if he plays 5 or 10 minutes a game. There is nothing for him to learn in AHL. That's said in the offseason, he needs to continue working on his skating and stickhandling. Getting more boxing lessons wont hurt either.

The Igor penalty is fine, I'll take it, but I would argue that Rempe shouldn't get one. That said, everyone get to Igor's aid, almost got IGOR really hurt.

LOVE Cuylle..Hate that he is on a line with ZMINUS...but needs to get his chances on goal!

Rhet, that's would be the point, no? If you want someone to shoot on PP, that would be Kaliev, no?

Andrei.. I meant to say, run the PP with FOX(not QB). That said, I disagree on Z. He is the only player on the PP that teams around the league make adjustments for his shot and he draws players to him. You need that on the PP. JMO.

sjw…Saw that pass by Smith…Really dumb….Z lost the puck on the boards rather than shoot it in as well…

Rhet, there is Fox and Panerin. There is no one else at that level. Problem is that, and I have being saying this for a while, Panerin is playing hurt. You know that Panerin is healthy when he shoots at freewill. When he stops shooting, then you know that something is seriously bothering him, not bad enough to miss games, but he clearly not himself. So what I would do, is to play Kaliev on PP1, instead of ZShit, but what do I know...

Lundqvist is the only NYR(or former) that could happen to. What are the chances?

Just dumb plays at time.. I mean basic hockey ... Smith on the PK long change.. get it deep .. nope forces a high risk e/w pass turn over and it's back in our end... last shift watched 2 Ranger forwards leave the zone before the puck was safely out .. that's a way to give up that last minute goal .. there are other examples of IMO brain dead mental mistakes gotta stop

Rangers playing a good game and very unlucky with the disallowed goals…Need to get the next one…

We have so many PPQB's on this team, why does it always have to be run through Panarin? I get it, he's super-talented but let someone else run it without deferring to him.

Now the refs are trying to give the game to Ott. How do you make that call. There is absolutely no way you can say an angle caused that bad call.

The nhl needs ot end this madd ess. That puck was in the zone for like 30 Seconds. Way too long and Kreider being off by an inch didn’t affect the scoring play.

Oh Jesus. How long was that in the zone? This rule MUST change. They MUST find a way to get this fixed.

Rhet: automatic systems seem great. Pucks can have sensors and skates can have them. Put one at the toe and heal. Sure there may be a few millimeters of error. But not enough for a camera to see, so it would be good. Hell they could start using it first to test it by having it be part of the review process. And give teams the access to the feed so they can see right away if it was on or off and they won’t challenge unless it shows off.

Pillsbury Dough Boy with the shot! But he has been plying well with that line around the perimiter

Love his shoot mentality. So many other rangers would have passed that or tried to settle down and carry it around a bit. He jsut fired it.

Yep. This shit is so mickey mouse NHL. With Buttplug in charge what else is new...

Pretty boring stuff but good to have the lead,,need the Sens to get really physical to give the game a pulse...but...winning is the thing..good for LAFFY 2 games in a row

Better yet, move to automated offside. Nothing is perfect, but I'd much rather have a play blown dead at the beginning then after we've gone thru all the effort to score a goal, It really takes away from the flow of the game.

So how does Panarin way overstay his shift and yet Kreider is on the ice with him if he’s the next LW up?

Worst job in the world…LW on the line that next up after the Trochek Line…good luck getting on the ice LOL

The reason these games are so fucking boring is that the Rangers don’t gain the offensive zone at all at 5 v 5…just a fire drill getting into the zone and they lose it. When they do dump it in, they don’t retrieve it…

The way they go on about the opposing team is ludicrous….Don’t like a total homer but they are obnoxious…

Yup, Z-minus definitely should start every game. Joe and Sam are of course in love with the Sens, best team in the whole world! Can they include those two bozos in any trade?

JT Miller is not scratched tonight. It was an erroneous report on Twitter X by a guy who misinterpreted what Canucks beat writer Dhaliwal said in a podcast

If it's anywher close to on, CHYTL, with his concussion history, has to be Sat, right? Bring on the Brodz!

Could you imagine if the NYR's bench Chytil and Lindgren tonight and had to play JONES? That would be sweet :)

Schneid- where did u read JT Miller is a healthy scratch tonight? Can't see that anywhere on the usual sources.

According to Cam Robertson, The NYR/VAN deal may be back on. If we bench some players tonight, that could be an indication.

Scratching Miller may be a way for Vancouver to make a team or two feel like someone else is about to close the deal, then use that as a way to squeeze out a little bit more. Can’t jump to conclusions about these things.

td: Tampa had options for a cap dump. They chose Miller. They also told him some of the same things the rangers told him. Miller is who said that. He also said that made him focus on his off ice stuff, especially his offseason efforts. That helped him, according to him, the edge that finally had him hit his potential. He said if he want traded twice he may never have accepted what he was told. He really fell on his own sword when he said that stuff. It was a major shift and why I think he likely isn’t as bad now as he was.

TDCHI - Although I still have worries about JT as a long standing teammate and I'd be working to deal ZBAD yesterday, if it's a MILLER deal with no ZBAD it's a move for Drury's hide and for this year...I can live with it for awhile...The prospects/picks/CHYTL can be recopued.....And the lines you mention, believe it or not, I love..especially MILLER-CUYLLE together....but...even with Lindgren the D scares the crap out of me and migth make what the forwards might be able to meaningless unless you spend more picks/prospects at the deadline

TD... Isn't a splintered locker room off-ice issues? Anyway, we've talked about this a ton over the years, I'm not going thru this again. Rarely is there a player where guys 100% like him Or 100% hate him. It depends who you talk to that gives you their impression. I'm sure there are plenty of guys in the NHL that love Tony DeAngelo, that doesn't mean he's a great guy either.

Rhet0ric - I think that's some creative interpretation on your part, re: his time with the Rangers. That's not what I heard at all. And the person who explained it to me was connected with the team. The issue, as I was told, was what he was doing off-ice. He was a liability waiting to happen. I can't tell you what's going on in Vancouver other than that Bo HORVAT was a very significant piece of their team and they chose to move him over MILLER.

Now...what would the MILLER deal as proposed do to the Rangers? Well, if the deal is CHYTIL/LINDGREN and a conditional first? I'm really not sure what to make of it. Presumably, he'd do one of two things: Move to the wing and bump SMITTY Jr., or stay in the center and reduce the minutes now being eaten by Z and TROCHECK...I don't see the Rangers pushing BRODZINSKI into the lineup, so most likely, he'd come in as a center. That'd give you SMITTY-MILLER-CUYLE, LAF-TROCHECK-PANARIN, KALIYEV-Z-KREIDER and then whatever porridge you want to put around CARRICK. VAAKAINANEN would bounce to FOX's flank and JONES would slate in next to SCHNEIDER. I gotta be honest? That's a pretty nasty group right there. MILLER and CUYLLE together would be a menace. And if they could bounce SMITTY Jr(unlikely, I know) at the deadline? You could slide OTHMANN in there quite nicely. I don't particularly like VAAK getting LINDGREN minutes, and I think that would necessitate another deal right there to get someone cheap and stable into the mix...and if the team went deep again? The first rounder you're looking at is in the range of 26-32...Just to put this in perspective, the guy we got last year...EJ EMERY...this isn't a player who is going to be an all-star...and MILLER will be under contract for another five seasons, giving the team depth at center for at least the next two...I don't agree that this would be a move of desperation...rather it would be taking advantage of a team that got itself in the shit...sort of like what the Ducks did with us and TROUBA...anyway...I can fully see why the Rangers DON'T want to do a pick straight up. At this point, this team could easily drop between 10 and 16 in the draft. They may even get a lottery pick. In contrast, I can totally see why that's a sticking point with Vancouver. They're going to take a bath on MILLER it seems...but if our offer is CHYTIL-LINDGREN-conditional first and the Canes are offering KOTKANIEMI, KOTKANIEMI's mole and ROSLOVIC? our offer is far superior even given whatever the condition is.

TD.... We have talked about this before. When Miller got moved from NY it was because he was one of the three leaders in what was a splintered locker room. It was why he got moved under cover of night. It's why he was thrown into the McDonagh deal at the very last minute and it's why Glen Sather flew with the team to Tampa to break the news once the deal was finally done... In regard to VANCOUVER: He's had plenty of issues with plenty of team mates. They considered trading Miller before his prior deal was up, they considered trading him instead of signing him to a new deal... At some point, I guess they decided to go with the more talented player(not sure who made that decision) and re-signed him. Adding insult to injury, they gave him an "A" thinking it might also bring some maturity(it didn't). He is the type of leader that likes to point fingers but not have them pointed at him. He doesn't always lead by example and can sometimes be lazy. Luke Schenn called him out while he was in Vancouver and Miller didn't want to hear it. In short, you want the guy who stands up for teammates, not the guy who humiliates them. JT is the latter.

Feels like Miller with me in Carolina tommorow . Anyone on the Rangers scratched ? Gonna go with no . Dark days coming

I have no problem including a first for Miller. The way this team develops first rounders, does it matter? (Hopefully Perrault will be a good one and the coaches won't ruin him!) Lindy and Chityl, I also won't lose any sleep over. One is battered and playing poorly, the other is one hit away from a wheel chair for life. I live a few hours from Vancouver and see nearly all of their games. I can assure you, Miller, although not super defensively, is twice the player Z-shit is right now.

SCHNEIDW - Or JT pulls a Troubs and says "Fuck that"!!!..He obviously has to go from Vancouver but he still holds the cards..and can just as easily get paid for not playing until he goes/gets where he wants........But, you know, I can see the CANES going for him..They replaced old school GM WADDEL with a Science Nerd Analytics Proponent who just may go by the numbers/stats and not care about Locker room stuff and chemistry..Miller would also fit in perfectly as Carolina's 2nd C behind Aho and provide a gnarly 2nd-3rd C pair with Staal...We'll see..

JT Miller- Just read Miller is a healthy scratch tonight against Buffalo... My guess, Carolina is trading for Miller, who will thrive under Brind a Mour.

RF4L - ZFLOAT-MIller is ideal...for the Rangers...But Can't see the Canucks wanting ZBAD to pair with Petersson given what wins in the NHL...One would have to be flipped (3 way?)..OTOH, if there's a different deal for MILLER, ZBAD and JT are not a good fit in NY long term and ZBAD would have to be flipped and hopefully makeup for the cost of obtaining JT.....So it won't just be one move for the Rangers IMWO.........................As for Trading K'ANDRE MILLER..I say No tp that...Think outside the one brain fart he has played really well the last 8-10 games and almost always playing a gasint the top lines....With LINDGREN likely gone by the summer at the latest, BORGEN a UFA, And VAATANIEN a non-entity, JOnes a Blacklisted scrub also soon to be traded, I really don't think the Rangers can afford to trade Key..All just my opinion of course

Hold on to your shorts, but I think this is DD drury’s Kane 2 mutiny. He’s desperate to make the playoffs after he ripped the team apart. And he has to try to cover his ass with Dolan.

A first rounder for a 32 year old sorry I pass. He isn't a playoff proven superstar..

All that said, Z for Miller would be ideal. Yes, the Rangers are getting the more effective player but the Canucks are better a rock and a hard place and therefore, what can be fetched surely has to be compromised. Of course, that means Z has to waive his NMC...

How about a Miller for Miller swap? Yeah, the Rangers appear to be getting the more effective player at this point but 1) The 7 year age difference shouldn't be under-estimated 2) The cap hit difference shouldn't be under-estimated 3) The Canucks have been looking for a top 4 d-man basically all season long 4) Miller is helping rip apart their room; the sooner he's jettisoned the better for Vancouver 5) Miller holds the cards in terms of where he goes - if he's giving only 1 or 2 teams he'll go to assuming that includes the Rangers, Dreary should leverage that to his advantage and basically refuse to overpay.

Slow down on the MILLER-is-a-locker-room-cancer narrative. I'm not going to stand here an say the dude doesn't have his issues. That would silly...but he WASN'T a problem within the Rangers' locker room...his problems were OFF the ice and the team didn't think they could manage them/was tired of waiting for him to grow out of them/mature...And with Tampa? His getting moved was purely a cap dump. Simple as that...From what I understand about his time in Vancouver...the issue is really about the guy being fiery and really disliking the type of hockey many folks here seem to dislike...soft, uninspired play. The guy is a fierce competitor...I'm not going to pretend to know what's going on between him and TOCHETT...but they weren't having any problems last year...and on the PETTERSON thing? Well, let me put it this way: How many of you here would be blowing a gasket if PANARIN played 13 playoff games and put up only one goal? Or better yet, ZIBANEJAD? At any rate, I don't claim to know what's going on over there...but obviously, the Canucks thought highly enough of MILLER on 2023 that they not only gave him a tremendous contract extension, but they ALSO traded Bo HORVAT, the team's captain of four years, over him. Sooooo...let's pump the brakes on that narrative, which doesn't remotely pass the smell test.

Man, Vancouver is leaking like a sieve..... Farhan Lalji (TSN) mentioned that a likely confrontation which(was not physical) happened after one of the games to which Miller was benched by head coach Rick Tocchet where the next day he announced he was taking a personal leave.... Kypreos said this incident was different from the one he was referencing.

The rumor is that the stumbling block is what conditions should be on the first round pick, along with lindgren and chypil .

NC - there have been legit reports of Drury wanting JT Miller for years, so I’m not sure how that fits into your narrative of his current pursuit being “desperation.” JT Miller isn’t 37-years old, he’s 32…plenty of good hockey left in him. I’d see it as more of a hockey trade than a desperation move. In 2 years, his no-trade deal turns into a limited no-trade with a no-trade list. I’m worried about his rep of being a problem child but the fact that he has a very good childhood friend in Trochek on the team makes me hopeful that he has someone who can keep his baser instincts in check. Seems to be like this deal is gonna happen. If all it’s about is a)salary retention; and b) whether or not the 1st rounder is protected or not, I can’t imagine this deal not getting worked out. The floating of the Miller-To-Carolina and Miller-To-NJ rumors are classic smokescreens put up by desperate teams…and that desperate team is the Canucks. One big push by JT Miller’s agent and this deal is likely to gets done. I’m guessing it’s about finding a 3rd team to retain salary. I think Drury wants to land a BIG UFA in the summer and he needs the space…that’s why he needs retention

RF4L... Everyone in the hockey world saw that video, but when one side is yelling at the other, it's not an altercation(back and forth). I am going to guess that after the game, the two got into a yelling match as a result of that incident.

I can’t believe the NYR’s are actually entertaining a trade for JT at this point. It reeks of desperation, and that’s not a good place to be. Especially for Drury, who gets bent over on every trade he makes anyway. In fact, this is probably how the Canucks are viewing this from their perspective. Yes, they are dealing with a shit storm of a mess right now, and the general consensus is the opposing team holds all trade leverage….but they are prob aware of the fact that Drury is a bit desperate….why you ask? Well, for one, to cover his own ass (this should come as no surprise knowing the type of person he is), and secondly he has to meet Jimmy Boy’s quota…make the playoffs. We know Jimmy Boy is looking for playoff gates first and foremost. Not a good position for a NYR fan to be in. I’m very uncomfortable this numb nuts is going to screw the pooch big time here. No way would I trade a first (conditions or not). We need that draft capital to get a legit top 6 C in the organization and we could end up having a good shot at one of the season unfolds in a certain direction. I can’t fathom why you would want to trade assets for a malcontent like JT that ruffles feathers and breaks down locker rooms wherever he goes. I mean, didn’t we learn the first time? Are we that desperate for too 6 C talent. Inviting that personality into our fragile locker room is like putting a ravaged hungry monkey in a room full of babanas. Holy crap, this is such an obvious non-trade to consider. If it’s executed, I can’t wait to tell everyone I told you so. Just like wow. This is next level stupid

Rhet: I believe it happened in game on the bench. Tocchet took him to task and Miller ignored him and, if I remember correctly, actually moved down the bench. It's a mess there for sure. I don't how they expect to win with any regularity when that sort of crap is happening.

Okay, I didn't mention this earlier, because I am just burnt out on JT MILLER already: Nick Kypreos reported yesterday that the reason why the Canucks all of a sudden went into urgent trade JT Miller mode as opposed to taking their time was because there was an altercation between him and HC Rick Tocchet last week. No word on whether it was verbal or physical.

One can only hope Vaak is being showcased for a deadline deal. Even he fetches a 4th that's better than a kick in the groin. Of course, that's giving Dreary more credit than he deserves...

BOb - I'm with you on Vaak, he does nothing for me.....Doesn't provide offense..and zero physicality..Don't even like watching him....OTOH, he seems to play a decent positional game where he doesn't make many mistakses......If winning a cup is ever an objective, he needs to be gone..but, for whatever this season is (I have no clues), I guess it really doesn't matter now given what the Rangers have as an alternative

RF4L - Like you, I don't get a Coach doing that to his team and his black aces..I would try and work them in a little....but, OTOH, over the last 8 games the Rangers have won a point in every game and got 13 out of 16 points..It's hard to buck that even if the last 3 games were so-so at best perforamnces agasint 3 crappy teams where their goalie was the best player a..But..It's all about the point..They need to play much better tonight--and that especially refers to the top line and the ZMINUS line, bot hhave been doing little......The Kreids-Chytl-AK34 lien has been their best

I don’t get the love affair with Vaakanainen. He couldn’t play consistently last year in Anaheim and they had nothing but kids with Fowler. I don’t know what the data shows but it seems they get pinned in frequently. I can’t imagine he is better than Jones. I would like to see Miller come to the Rangers, but not if they give up their #1 pick.

Good take on the possible acquisition of MIller: https://thehockeynews.com/news/why-the-new-york-rangers-should-pass-on-a-j-t-miller-trade-with-canucks

Jones Vesey and Jbrod pressboxed again. And the destruction of another solid prospect courtesy of the New York Rangers continues...

Seems to me that "IF" you want one last shot at the POs and Cup then JTM (and further deadline tweaks) is exactly the role of the dice they need. And clearing out Chytil and Lindgren (even if it costs a conditional 1st) is the right move - especially if you play to be wholesale sellers thereafter. HOWEVER, if you plan to be big sellers at the deadline then this is insanity.

I said before I’m ambivalent about JTM. What I am absolutely crystal clear on - please for the love of GOD, can we NOT overpay?! For once?! Seems like we always do. And maybe we were more desperate in other situations. That’s debatable. Maybe we had to pay the “NYR premium” to get anything done. That is also debatable. Well, in this case, we absolutely are NOT more desperate than VAN. We have most of the leverage, they have very little. VAN has a huge locker room issue with a guy with a NMC that seems to only want to go to NYR. CD absolutely should play hardball here. We are not here to help fix VAN’s issues for a discount. If anything, they should pay the premium.

The Nyr locker room needs a shakeup and to be challenged and inspired. They are having a hard time doing that because of the two bloodsucking undertakers in charge who have taken a lot of life out of the team. Get miller to come in and be the bad guy.

MILLER to the Canes for ROSLOVIC and KOTKANEIMI would be a windfall for that team. Man, if THAT is the return he's fetching, Vancouver is truly fucked. They're getting pennies on the dollar for a legit power forward who plays all three positions...I would hate, hate HATE to see him in Carolina. Not as much as I'd hate to see him on Long Island or in New Jersey...but close.

Said it before and I'll say it again: REMPE'S young career is at a crossroads. He COULD be a legit NHL player...someone who is both what fans envision him being...a guy that keeps other teams honest...and a dude who can legit nail down regular shifts on the fourth line. He's not that far off on the latter. He's actually improved since last season...but to really be that guy, he needs ice. Seven minutes a night in the NHL isn't worth the 13-15 minutes he'd get in the AHL. The time for him to improve is now. If they keep him around playing him sparingly essentially as an enforcer, that is exactly what he'll become...strangely enough, the Canadians were at the crossroads with JACKOFF two years ago and they basically dithered on the point...sent him to Laval for a half-season...and now what they've got is a guy who is fine for a couple minutes in the first, but who will probably never be able to hold down a legit top-six spot in the NHL. And now, if I'm not mistaken, he's waiver eligible, which means any sort of positive development in his career will need to occur in the NHL...or with some other franchise...ESPECIALLY with how fucked this season has been already, REMPE should be in Hartford. And honestly? He should be playing center and getting big minutes. Here? He's a waste. He may contribute marginally in the way fans want him to...by seven minutes a night? Not only is it a waste of a roster space, it's wasting his dwindling time being waiver ineligible. NTM, if you put him up against VESEY and even BRODZINSKI, the contributions of both FAR outweigh whatever REMPE is doing out there. LAVIOLETTE ain't gonna play him big minutes, ergo he should be in Hartford helping them win. The stupidity of him being in the NHL right now is just mindblowing.

I don't dislike rempe I just don't see it. He can't fight, has balance problems and he can't play in the D zone...he is only somewhat effective in the O zone .. it's not really enough.. Drury fired yet.

PJ - Too funny..And looks pretty possible! I love Rempe on the forecheck and in the offensive zone but elsewhere he has a hard time staying balanced and that's really dangerous in his fights.....VCP - I don't agree with your distste for Remps..but I would put good soldier Vesey in for at least a game starting tomorrow (and play him with ZMINUS! )

Are we sure it wasn’t Brian Boyle that gave Rempe the fighting lessons…LOL…I like Rempe but he can’t fight…Getting worse to be honest…

I don't see the rempe positives I would put vescey or brodzinski over rempe easily..not a brodzinski fan but unsure what rempe brings. Can't fight either.

I saw the CAR rumors yesterday and quite frankly I dismissed them as the CANUCKS trying to squeeze more out of the NYR's. That said, I do know that VAN does really like Jack Roslovic. They've tried to acquire him before. ALSO: no one seems to know if Miller will waive his NMC for CAR, they're all guessing he will, but I haven't seen confirmation. On the bright side, maybe we'll find out tonight and all the drama will be over. One way of the other..... In regard to LINDGREN: the rumored plan has been to get rid of him by the deadline whether we're buyers or sellers. He's breaking down and thankfully, we seem to recognize it.

Someone just posted this on Twitter: Jesperi Kotkaneimi and Jack Roslovic will not play tonight for trade-related reasons.......I think JT would be a good pickup for us...not carolina

Love JT's game, worry about his "drama"..but getting Miller is interesting but a no go for me unless you get rid of ZMINUS(which should be a Drury priority) in the same or a different deal (sooner rather then later) that recoups what you send out for Miller (CHYTL, LINDGREN, a 1st)...but maybe that doesn't happen until the off-season? Would be good for some angst on the Wall!!!!...Then there's the problem that such a deal leaves you needing not ONE but TWO D-men when you have nothing but a soft black listed D-man in NY and NOTHING in Hartford..Well, if the next 2 years mean anything..

THis season is in a sense over . We may or may not make the playoffs but really doesn't matter if we do. Better if we don't players can rest...and possibly and hopefully Drury and Laviolett are both gone.

I'd prefer a press conference chaired by a new president who then says he will be hiring a GM shortly. That won't happen, IF it happens, until the off-season (unless something really disastrous happens).

re: MILLER, That's interesting. CHYTIL-LINDGREN would not only fully cancel out MILLER's cap hit, but would actually save the Rangers some cap space. I don't dread a deal like that, just given how wonky CHYTIL has been and that it's looking more and more like LINDGREN will be gone at the end of the season...that would get JONES back into the game, I suppose. Or open a spot for SCANLIN or ROBERTSON and then probably FORTESCUE next season...agree losing the first rounder would suck. Not the deal I'd prefer, but also not a deal that would make me cringe.

If they were willing to take mr chypil, including a first unfortunately makes sense. Unless of course the rumor that miller is only willing to come to the Nyr.

Including a first is exactly what Dreary should NOT be doing given all the draft picks he's previously flitted away.

A question..Something i just noticed in the last 10 games or so but when did Panarina's GoTo Move (hell, his only move recently) be to curl from the side boards to the center of the ice inside the blue line and try a long range shot? Is this by design from him or the coach? yes, it sometimes works, but the old Panarina is nowhere to be found--and Laffy and TRO can't find him either!

I would classify this as a RUMOR: This comes from Rick Dhaliwal, after making some calls, he's got the impression that the reason why the JT Miller deal fell through was the conditions on the 1st round pick. The thinking here is that the NYR's wanted conditions and the Canucks wanted none.... There was also another report by Thomas Drance(the Athletic) that the trade was going to be Chytil, Lindgren and a conditional 1st.

Canucks PR- SCHEDULE UPDATE: Canucks General Manager Patrik Allvin will conduct a midseason media availability today at 11:45am in the press conference room.

Hospo: That the president/GM refuses to provide to the fans his thinking/direction/strategies/etc is one of the most annoying aspects of this current edition of the Rangers. Show some compassion you myopic piece of shit - why is letting the fanbase dangle in the wind so acceptable to the owner and this weasel of a man? Inexplicable.

Yeah, I love Remps heart and willingness, but he's just too gangly and unbalanced to be a good fighter....He is gonna get hurt bad one of these days...fight when you have to..but stick to forechecking and checking..and all that said, I do like him, and do like him in the lineup..but..wouldn't bother me if he's sat...And, yeah, I still want CUYLLE off the ZBAD line and Carrick/Edstrom would be good mates..OTOH, Fat Bastard can't stop throiwng ZBAD out continuously..........Now, CUYLLE with MILLER I might like..

RF4L - It's hard not to be amblivalent about the Rangers because, right now, there really is no direction, no commitment to either getting better for the now/short term or the Long term...You need to choose one and not middle of the road mediocrity.....Even moreso, the Rangers have ZERO identity.....They are not a high flying scoring team....They do not focus on D except for relying on Goalies...They are not a young, energetic team....They are not a physical team (although they can react),,They do not forececk...T.They do not stick religously to a system..Despite the better play and the points recently, they are still a mess relative to being a cup winner or a team with long term promise

Well, he's not wrong..... Matthew Barnaby wrote on X: "Rempe is the worst fighter I've ever seen for a big guy."

BTW: Friedman verified this morning that neither Lafreneire or Schneider were in the deal. No reporting on what held the deal up. Friedman also said that as of Sunday night, the deal is further away from happening than it was on Friday (sorry Eklund).

I guess you can forget Miller coming to NY. Eklund reported 30 minutes ago it's close.

NYStranger: You say "the Rangers owe it to the fan base to do the right thing". And of course you're right. But, as you surely know, the Rangers take their fanbase for granted. They have a president/GM who hides from the media, their TV broadcasts behave like they believe Ranger fans know little about the game of hockey and have an average age of 10, the media has had their collective spines removed to the point where only 1 individual (LB) dares criticize anything (and even that's muted compared to other sports and/or cities), and the owner who apparently operates like a despot. In other words, it's a big huge FU to the fanbase on a regular basis.

Unfortunately, for whatever the real reasons of their collapse, the Rangers chasing the POs at all costs would be Drury/Dolan Level foolish. The PO picture is a Buttman’s Looser point illusion. Can they make the POs? Sure. I can also buy a lottery ticket and be a multimillionaire tomorrow but I would not bet my house on it. Another words, what ever decisions and moves made by DDD needs to be about what is best for next season and the future and NOT about lightning in a bottle quick returns. The Rangers owe it to the fan base to do the right thing. The organization can’t afford to ruin the next decade to try and make the POs this season. And besides, if wise moves are made with a look to the future, it MIGHT just work to get them into the POs this year. There is a lot of seemingly un-coachable passengers on this roster with a history of 3 coaches for many of them. Doesn’t help there is a lard ass fossil trying to coach constantly shrugging his shoulders about why the team does not do what he is coaching. I feel this is like the end of Tom Renney’s tenure. Look to the future DDD!!

I really am ambivalent towards this team right now. Yeah, they are playing a little better and putting up some points but they aren't very fun to watch (rarely dominate and often are out-played but saved by their goalies), there is consistently too many passengers, their game is frequently messy, I dislike the coach and his roster tactics, and most importantly, I don't trust Dreary as far as I could throw Lardiolette. Regarding the latter, I am dreading his next deal (or deals) because I fear they will weaken this team's future considerably while not coming close to the ultimate goal (winning a cup), thereby setting the organization back another decade.

The scary thing is In just a few short months going from final 4 up in series to now getting run and gunned by the Habs and in a group as close to the bottom as a wildcard is just tragic .

Under what circumstances lardass? I have a few opinions on that…. https://youtu.be/ssQadTJ9a4I?si=P0OJ7huluuMEY3bB

Molly “Careless play in the Rangers’ own zone in the middle frame — a trend during the ugly 4-15 stretch the team is trying to separate itself from — was costly. ”… shhh don’t tell the coach.

Sitting jbro Vesey and Casey jones in a back to back with some regulars on scoring droughts, and just not resting 3 guys is not really logical. The Nyr should change their name to the flintstones before U-turn takes it. Management ( Fred and Barney) are dinosaurs from the Stone Age. With Dolan ( Mr slate, I had to look that name up) who’s the owner of the quarry.

On rempe who got 7 minutes… “I think he’s done a good job,” Laviolette said before the game. “He gets in on the forecheck, responsible defensively. Some of the decisions I make are based more on the game and what we need to do to win and score goals. I make some changes on the bench, but that’s more about me and not about him and his game. I think he’s come back and given us positive minutes and positive energy on the ice.” …. Try defense first and you might outscore your opponents. But no just keep trying for offense first and the results have shown too many times. Getting 15 of 20 points would be a lot easier on your goalies and maybe quick would get his 400 win. It’s the old definition of insanity after 46 games with 48 points. And you can keep blaming the players and the core along with DD ( due diligence, dumb decisions) drury , and never really get to rolling four lines consistently. Drury should give his coach a 20 man roster to save cap space and wasting the scratches who are supposed to be the black aces not the black hole.

On the positive side, it was good to watch a game with a physical pulse from BOTH teams..unlike lst night..Good to see both LAFFY and CUYLLE break their droughts even if they didn't do much else (like the rest of their lines).....ANd, damn was that a big hit by FOX???

Finally able to watch the game after a festive night with some Buffalo people......And well, a well deserved TEAM loss and a point stolen by QUICK who was amazing....MISTAKES all over the fuckinn place and just zero offense from most of the forwards all night.. 2 heinous turnovers leading to goals by BORGEN who also got physically abused all game…. Bad penalty (and getting his ass kicked) by Remps with lazy back check by CHYTL….. And, of all people, TROCHECK complelty falls asleep on what was supposed to be a back check..and then Miller with a lazy back check in oT..Goaltending can’t hide everything……..You can’t have mistakes like that when your lines are being totally outpleayed…....Nothing from the top line except a bad bounce goal for Laffy…..Ditto for the ZBAD line again except for one good shot by CUYLLE..Just a really bad game by everybody …EXCEPT the Kreider-CHYTL-AK34 line which was by far the best (and only) line for the Rangers..They were all good….....But. as Ranger luck would have it, Laviolette rewarded them with time in OT and it really didn’t work out well…….Oh well

Kreider doesn’t look hurt to me….Looks more willing to battle than he did…Actually engaging in board battles to retrieve puck which he had stopped doing….Laff tonight had one shot on goal..AND IT WENT IN….SHOOT LAFF!

Certainly far more competitive than we were a month ago…Many of the defensive issues resurfaced tonight…Agree with Andrei that our D pairs have been much better lately….Forwards not handling trailers and getting back timely still an issue…Note the Habs fourth goal and OT goal tonight….

Andrei... The lack of a call was BS, but all three players were back at their own blue and in position before Laine went in to score.

Andrei the 5 man defense has been the problem all year long and the coach and his assistant have not corrected it.

The deserving team won that all the way. I’m not even sure how the Rangers out the streak they did together tbh. Rammer looked more excited than some of the players on the bench. Wish he would have flipped Drury off in the Suite he’s hiding in. But he’s too classy for that. I hope this little fake streak doesn’t lead Dumbass Drury (I’m assuming that’s what DD stands for) into making another desperate trade he gets bent over on. When you watch these two teams, it’s so clearly easy to see that one is ascending and another is either struggling or in the way down. Gorts can build em and boy do I miss him. We’re left with a silver spooned owner that knows dick about hockey, an incompetent GM that is egotistical in nature (and a snake), and a coach stuck in 2003. Good times ahead. If it wasn’t for Quickie this would have been much worse.

O'key, so Chytil get's knocked down on a non call, and Habs go another way and score, but we are going o blame the coach for putting him out there? Got it..

Did lardass play his boy zbad in ot? Mr chypil had a little more ice time almost 18 than z 17. He talked a good story between the 2nd and the third. But it was talk.

Defense itself have being much better, but the problem with the forwards coming back to defend or forwards leaving too early remains a problem. Rangers also continue to defend with their sticks instead of playing body. That's said this is a different team that used to play a month ago. Still not sure why Kaliev is in the lineup and Kreider still looks like he is playing hurt. much rather see Berard instead of Kaliev. More I watch Borgen, more I like him. Miller might have just found his partner, at least for this season. Vaakanainen is playing well. Would say this, Rangers defense core are all playing well, especially Fox, who is starting to look like the old Fox. Again, to me, problem is not on defense, it's the forwards not supporting d-man all the time, which they have to, if Rangers continues to push towards playoffs. Isn't amazing how different this team looks, when Fox is playing his game. Still might not be 100%, but certainly much better then he was playing two month ago.

I agree this loss is on the coach. Poor choice of putting Chytil on the ice in overtime. Maybe he is showcasing him? Not sure I saw Trocheck on the ice in OT nor Carrick who plays great defense. Three and three is all about puck possession.

Well then Rangers are a pretty mediocre team that can’t play a lick of team defense, so we WILL be seeing a bunch of OT games this year I am sure. Maybe put Chytil, Laffy and Miller on as a threesome to start each OT to make sure we loose, Right Lavi? You fat fuck

I hate that fat fuck Peter Pud Laviolette....one hit wonder like Dexys midnight runners

Chytil has not looked good during the 3 on 3s. He gives the puck away and does not stay with his man ever. I feel bad for Quick. He deserved better than that for sure.

Dobes stole that OT win for the Habs! That 2nd big save he made was pure robbery, not to mention his stop on Trochek. Damn!

Loss is on Lav for putting that line out there . Chytil should not see another minute of 3 on 3 the rest of the season .

That Chytil line was horrendous on the 1st shift, we liked it so much we decided to put them out there again= to lose the game.

Couldn’t capitalize on chances in OT…Crying shame to waste that performance by Quick…

Said many times before .. board work by wingers is awful.. fail time and time again to clear the zone

Rhet…I only mentioned Miller because he and Borgen have been defensive partners. And yes I saw the mistakes but he also saved a goal. Calm down , I wasn’t trying to offend you, sorry if it sounded that way

First, I never said Miller was playing badly. 2nd Borgen had two horrendous faux pa's in the game in case you missed it.

Very entertaining game so far, especially since last night they played a game that was impossible to enjoy.

For first overall pick laffy is as dumb as they get...he shoulda touched puck in Habs zone even if it triggered an offsides to come back into Rangers zone for face off

Quick has really kept us in the game tonight. The defensive breakdowns are crazy! If they can get a point of this I’ll be very happy

lol, they played Mika’s interview: Giannone asks: are you going to try for a 5th or dot back in your zone?

Rhet … Borden is playing well and so is Miller. Small sample size but so far so good

I’m hoping there’s a scrap between Cuylle and Guhle , love to hear Sam call that one !

PJ.... Yes, Miller has reduced his number of brain farts and Borgen has been generally solid, which makes Borgens troubles in this game a bit of a head scratcher. He's usually smarter.

Am I the only one that has noticed that Kaliev is getting better with every game he plays ? Also, Elliotte Friedman is the only insider I believe. He has sources that nobody else has and he is usually correct about things. He also is honest when he is unsure. Just IMO.

I don't get the Borgen pass/TO at all. No pressure and no one in front of you. You can move it up to Z, but instead you decide to do a cross-ice pass thru a defender? Weird decision making there.

First two goals allowed were somewhat flukes…Borgen really shit the bed on the third…Agree we are an adventure with the clear in our end….To be fair the Borgen/Miller pair have been very good lately…

Does Laff get a bonus for every goal Panarin scores?….He passes up chance aftet chance to set him up…He has a great shot….USE IT!

Quick has the lead, that means we need to pour it on in the 3rd so he can still get the win(if he doesn't make it out for the 3rd).

MC... I have to disagree on VINCE. He's had a solid history of being right about stuff, showing that he does indeed have sources. What I always say about trades, one side can not leak all they want, but that doesn't mean that the other side of the phone wont... Also, not believing a report because it didn't come from the main source is kind of like saying Watergate never happened becauase Nixon denied it. JMO, of course.

Is there any other team in the league with players .. particularly D .. who have full care and control with little pressure that turn it over , miss the pass or pass to the other team as much as this one..

Wonder if Quick is gonna tighten up between periods. Wouldn’t be surprised to see Shesty come out for the 3rd period.

I hope Quick makes it out for the 3rd. He looks like he strained his groin a bit.

WTF was that? BORGEN is having a HORRID game. That type of play should NEVER be a turnover.

I agree there was no reason to fight, but I think Rempe thought it was inevitable and figured he’d go. WiFi not fighting right away probab Messed up Rythym

They are butching about Kreider should have been called for interference and the penalty on Anderson was a push

as far as zbad... have u ever seen a guy paid as a #1 center who has no razzle dazzle, no shake and bake and no creativity? ever time he gets passed the puck on the PP where he is on the side of the net..... he does the dumbest shit instead of making a move to the goal.... I hate him now

I’m so bored and tired of watching the power play doing the same old shit for 90 seconds at a time. They waste so much fucking time padding around the perimeter…

Why don’t they shoot the pick at the net on the pp when you have one of the best in front of the net ?

IMO poor time to fight .. leading and why do u want to give the other team energy ... got the extra 2 only because it is Rempe... otherwise u would never see a penalty like that .. BS call

RF4L.... rempe is literally the worst fighter in Rangers history.... he makes kjell Samuellson and tanner glass look great

I’m watching on NHL network and I was hoping we had a nation broadcast crew, but they are definitely the Montreal broadcast team. They said WiFi wanted no part of that fight with Remoe, and that Guhle was allowed to pull down Chytil. And there was no extra 2

Rhet , not trying to be a prick but do u really think a ref would change his mind no matter who was arguing with him? That said, I agree # 16 should have a letter, maybe even the C.

Of course I picked up Dvorak in RFC FHL before the game for his faceoffs, lol. BS call on Rempe

They NYR's really need to give Trocheck the other A so he can argue B.S. penalties with these idiot refs.

I fear that that just really revved up the crowd and was a big mistake. He should not have initiated.

Rhet, luv u man, and i like you reporting on all the rumors but Vince knows fuck nothing. He reports on rumors that he reads. Do you think Dreary calls Vince? Vince is not what anyone would call an "insider"" Vince is not an exactly proven an NHL Insider. That said, where there is smoke there is usually fire and there is certainly a lot of smoke! JT is going to get traded, no doubt, and I hope it is to the Rangers for Z-Man-Bun and who ever!

I know Z is playing with way more energy now and Laviolette interprets that as “confidence” but he is still way, way off…crazy LOUD mistakes, terrible giveaways & terrible passes. Is Kreider even playing tonight? I haven’t heard his name once…

It wasn’t perfect, but I’m happy with that period considering they played at home last night. Nice to see Cuylle off the Schnide!

Stevie, the coach did not see that. And if he did, he will simply ignore it and give him more ice time. He is a great coach.

Posting about what i've read about who was involved in the deal is rumors. Posting what VINCE said, is not rumors.... If we're talking about JT Miller and divided locker rooms. NOT RUMORS. When he was here in Tampa, it was written about in the newspapers. In Vancouver it was written about by their beat writers. His latest escapades, the team has been pretty open about(which has been weird). The divided locker room in NY: It was not verified until YEARS later. I would be all for Miller coming back to NY if it were not for these issues.

Rangers will be fine.. if they stop passing the puck back to the Canadiens D standing still at the blueline in our end .. 3x at least and the last ended up in our neyt ..

MC. Yes. Agreed on rumors. I post them too. Sure beats some of the endless negativity and/or stupid infighting that we have on here. So Rhet: Post away!!!

Sop monkey is off the back of Cuylle and Lefr. Who is the next in line? Trouchek, Rempe?

They, I just said something about Potvin to my wife and then looked at the wall, lol! I said Canadians fans should get over Kreider, but who are we to talk with the Potvin chant!

MC - none of us has a clue what Drury’s short & long term plans are…and plans change depending on a lot of factors. But I’m guessing he definitely wanted cap space as part of what he wants to accomplish

Nyr really challenging the goalie quick because they have no sog after 9 minutes.,

JFC, just busting u but did Drury tell u his plan? Dose he have a plan? We will likely never know because he is such a fucking genius, he never tells the media or the fans. He is a God.

Another game on fuckjng nhl network. You would think the Rangers are the inly team they show. This is like the 8th game i cant watch. Grrrrrrr

So first shift, the great fat Fucking coach starts Z-puke! Wow, he is brilliant.

I glad Vince said something instead of Larry, or the subject would become him instead of what might be going on.

Also, now that he’s gonna have $21 million in cap space could Drury decide to be a cap broker, taking on parts of contracts to regain draft picks & prospects?

Limbo - part of Drury’s plan seems to be to gain cap space and use that space to make the team better. Towards that end, he has jettisoned Goody & Trouba and is on pace to have $21 million space at the deadline. I’m sure that the temporary collapse threw at least a temporary monkey wrench into his plan. Now, is/was the plan to play it by ear and see where things go when flush with cap space? Did he intend to make big ticket talent at the deadline? If do, there’s where the monkey wrench may have kicked in. Or maybe his plan could involve high end UFA’s? The cap is going up $9 million next season…that is HUGE. So, I can’t believe he doesn’t have a plan…the question is partially what you said…is he being REACTIVE and messing up or is he being patient because his plans are geared more towards hockey trades for the long term combined with UFA signings…or is it something else? Damned if I know! LOL!

Rhet, don't get me wrong, I like your posts, but u have to remember, they are rumors!!! Mostly made up by media people who don't have a fringing clue! Of all the hundreds of rumors, maybe 5-10 % at best come true. Ask Drury, I mean Wildcard, what the Rangers plan on doing. Oh. ya, I forgot, out great president and GM doesn't speak to the media.

Leave it to beaver lardass going with the same hot lineup in back to back games.

Maybe the deal got to the point where the Canucks looked at Chytil's medical file and they said.... "F-K NO!" upon reading it.

Per Vince Mercogliano.... A little late on this because of the whole paternity leave thing but Elliotte reported last night that #NYR may have been close on a deal for JT Miller. It’s apparently on ice for now, but it’s become increasingly clear that the Rangers covet Miller and view him as one of the very few potentially available players who could change the dynamic of their lineup. But I’ve said before that I don’t see Mika Zibanejad waiving his NMC in season (if ever), so I’d look elsewhere if you’re trying to figure out what the trade package would look like. Back to diapers! ..... It’s fairly well known that Vancouver has asked for Braden Schneider and #NYR have repeatedly said no to this point. Alexis Lafrenière also feels like a bridge too far. But a name at least one source believes was involved in most recent trade talks: Filip Chytil. It’s unclear if Canucks want to go down that road given his injury history, but it’s something to monitor..... Vince

Hartford winning 3-0 right now after 2, stars to be Sykora, Othhman, Berard and Ruwhedel all playing..so no deal imminent

A wing today and we leap frog over the Habs in the Wild Card standings. I don't expect it to be easy(though I t would be really nice if it was).

There have been recent reports that Canucks captain Quinn Hughes is now also fed up with JT Miller.... I'm sure if we trade for him, things will be different this time, right? What could go wrong? it's not like he's splintered locker-rooms wherever he's gone, right? Oh wait, NM.

I don’t know if I like or hate a possible JTM deal. What I do absolutely hate is that, once again, NYR is in reaction mode. There is no plan. Or if there is, we drop it like a dog distracted by a squirrel. PANARIN is available? Scrap the plan. TROUBA pulls a I-don’t-wanna-go because….wife’s job? Scrap the plan. Talented player that is going to his fourth team because…he’s a dick? Scrap the plan. Just fucking stick to a goddamn plan and SEE IT THROUGH! We’ve been reactive since the goddamn 70s. Our only cup in 94 - as TD likes to point out, we were reactive as shit. If it wasn’t for a MATTEAU miracle, that would have ended the same way too. Same as it ever was….

Bob - I agree with your dream trade..but like the Allman Brothers/Molly Hatchet Great song is sure a Dream I'll never See..Where we disagree is i'd give up Sykora or Othman or Berard in a NY second for Miller

Ottman and sykora and chytil for miller .... Drury is a big fucking idiot but we already knew that.chytil is fine but the other two ???

FWIW, I am fine with them trying for JT Miller. If they give up Chytil, ok. He will not be on the league after age 30. I would hate to lose Sykora or Othmann. But you have to give to get. The dream would be Z for Miller straight up.

Sounds just liek what the spoiled puke Hughes did agist us in OT! Only reason to watch a Devil games is with the hope of seeing him laid out or. at the lest, lose

Devils lost again doesn’t help the standings but helps my head . Jack Hughes getting absolutely muscled off the puck at the blue line under a minute to go 1 on 1 was priceless .

Refuse to believe they are considering Laff in this trade…I do believe Canucks are highly motivated to move Miller…Tochett isn’t going to put up with his shite…Drury has some leverage but history says he will overpay…

Derek Ryan on waivers. Weren’t there rumors the Rangers were going to trade for him a couple of years ago?

CUYLLE at 0G 0A and a -6 over the last 13 games also has significnant upside...well, only if not playing with ZMINUs and his 2ESG 2ESA -9 over the same span..Reilly SMith, miracuously, is a PLUS 4 over the same time so he is doing something right somewhere!

I watch every Canuck game and I will tell you right now that I would take JT Miller over Z-shit every fucking day of the week. I don't care about his mental issues, the guy plays with heart, the fucking Man-bun Z shit has no heart.

So sick of hearing about Laff's upside and Miller's upside!!! Cant wait for tonight when Z has 3 break-a-ways and misses all of them! He has such a great upside though!

Send rempe down makes no sense.. it's like warming up and not playing utterly ridiculous and somewhat reckless... typical rangers...why do we follow this organization??? We are the dumbasses.

RF4L - DRURY, IMWO, has been in a steady decline since the KANE fiasco fucked one season.Check out the The UFAs nd deadlien deals...ONly good move was Quick....All thqt said, does the winning/point streak continue tonight..I hope the Habs are pissed nd play with more physicality than the safe BJs..COuld use a nice physicl game...BTW, REMPS with less than 6 minutes every game..Kind of absurd...

If laffy gets traded Drury really needs to get fired ....even though laffy as been absent lately...Dolan obviously is a moron so we are all stuck

Dreary has suddenly started sucking and getting fleeced. That crap started way before the dumbass KK trade. It happened with his 3rd deal when he got taken to the cleaners by Doug Armstrong.

With NMC type stuff and three teams it’s gotta be hard to get it over the finish line. I’m of the belief that this is probably an inevitability. That is JT gets traded. What makes me laugh is Ranger fans lust for JT but are gonna quickly remember that JT is prone to some obscene turnovers still. I don’t see the Rangers parting with Lafreniere. Too much upside, too high a pick, too much invested, and manageable dollars. I get the feeling that with JT sitting with a lot of power in the form of trade approval means if Drurybis smart he is gonna be able to get him at a manageable trade.

Without a doubt DD drury and lardass are what the Nyr need until the owner smells the coffee. But I’m sure some think they are terrific . Whatever floats your boat. This ship has been taking on water this season. I’m waiting for who will bail it out.

Rempe and Laff the only forwards without a SOG last night….Cuylle and Laff led in hits with seven and four respectively…

I have noticed that some of the same folks here who were certain that Kakko had his value drop to a point that he would be lucy to get a second rounder, are now saying that the return of a players that would have cost a 2nd rounder at least (Likely a 2nd and a prospect or another pick) a 3rd and a 6th. SO Kakko returns more than people say he is worth, so that automatically means he is worth more than what the return was. This is the same everywhere, first it was that Kakko wasn't even worth a high 2nd, then as soon as he got more than that amount in return, BAM!!! Kakko was worth a lot more than he got in return. Just liek some folks said Drury got robbed in the Trouba trade...and gripe about the player who came back. And prior they were on and on about what picks or prospects would have to be sent with him and they would still have to retain salary. People were talking a 2nd rounder having to be attached to get a team to take him AND Drury would have to retain 50%. Drury gets a player and a pick and suddenly Drury sucks and got fleeced.

If the Miller trade is a two team deal then one of Krieder, Panarin, or Z needs to go in order for the money to work? Unless Drury is more adroit than he has shown in the past.

TDCI - Agree with most of all that especailly on Drury and Kakkao...As far as that potentil Mikker trade....If JT can't coexist with PETTERSSON how the hell is he going to coexist with the flat liner and god awful (this year) ZMINUS? DRURY would be a fool to not have ZBAD in any trade or series of trades involving MIller....well, he is a fool, just more of a fool..

Obviously the Rangers are attempting to trade for MIller to get better and all the current Rangers know it..which should be a kick in their pants for all of them..well, except ZMINUS but he plays with zero emotion anyways so it doesn't matter..Right now I welcome MILLER even if I question it...The team, despite winning, is often a chore to watch and the 2nd and 3rd lines totally blow Bring on more soap opera and drama associted with JT!!!!.:)...And, If deal actually did fall apart it is classic DRURY who's manuvering (and mistakes) seem to always public before they have a chance to be completed...we'll see

I love MILLER and think he's just what this team needs. But I hate DRURY more, and I know whatever is going on in that fucking vacuum of space that's between his ears will make any sane fan cringe. I was gonna say I trust him about as far as I can throw him...but...I don't even trust him THAT far...my best guess is his deal for MILLER would be something like CHYTIL, OTHMANN a first, SYKORA and then CHMELAR to another team to eat $1 million off his salary.

Puckyou - BORGEN is a fine player. He's also one they probably could've gotten with a second rounder. I don't give a shit if BORGEN resigns and becomes MILLER's 'LINDGREN' so to speak...this deal was awful...fantastically awful. Fire-the-GM awful. Anyone with a brain saw it from day one. Anyone defending it now is just trying to spitshine a bowl full of beer shit...I'll go a step farther here...Go back on social media and in comments. Find all those people saying KAKKO was shit. Circle them and you've got the folks you never bother to listen to any more because they're friggin' DENSE. KAKKO's underlying metrics...ALL of them...were scream that this was a kid who just needed a chance. Probably took Ron FRANCIS a solid week to get his boner down after landing this deam.

Drury will screw up any JT Miller trade. 'Nucks have a problem on their hands and they should pay to resolve it like Drury did with Kakko and Trouba to a degree. Instead he will overpay. Take his keys away and get a real GM. He can keep the president title.

Rhet: The only reason those names are out there, is due to those names make people pay attention. It's not a big draw for a podcast, or website if its "JT Miller possibly on the move and will bring back a couple picks and 2 mid-level prospects" No one will click. They need "Look at this list of names! BLOCKBUSTER TRADE!"

Here is the ONLY think you need to know about the Miler rumors. Freidman. He is the ONLY guy trotting out such details as a trade about to happen, and what team is involved. He talks out of both sides of his mouth. Saying that a trade was about to go down with the Rangers, that is fizzled out, but it wasn't JT who blocked it, but JT also has permission to talk to multiple teams. SO, JT is talking to multiple teams, but a trade was about to happen or was close, but it wasn't that blocked it. If he made a choice of what team to goto, then he wouldn't be talking with multiple, and if he didn't choose any team than he is the one who blocked it. Face facts everyone. If it's a guy with the initials EF you should just take everything and slow it way down. He manipulates everything into some "its close" or if a team mentions a guy might be available for the right return, he takes that and reports "team X looking to move player X" not quite what it being said in reality...but he doesnt get clicks with reality.

My bet is lardass will play the same lineup tonight except for the goalie unless a trade happens before the game. That should tell you all you need to know about lardass . Dd drury wants cap space, he should just give lardass his comfy 20 man roster. As an addition I’m betting he’s going to include Casey jones anyway he can in a deal.

Could Chytl be the centerpiece ina Miller deal? Risky, but Van could ask for conditions on games played with picks

I like Borgen, but Kakko has 13 pts in 14 games and is on pp for kraken. Also, borgen UFA , this maybe worse than Rick Middleton for Ken Hodge. Trading a 23 year old can haunt you for more than a decade

The sharks smell trade blood and I’m sure teams have asked for all those names. The 3 scratches must be in the mix but maybe not all 3. But there’s little doubt that DD drury is in Kane mode again. A no brainer is different when it comes to drury. He needs to out do sather and fishboy. Whatever he does he will spin it to make like he needed to do it. I think he’s already done enough damage. Too bad Dolan doesn’t yet.

I think we're all forgetting how much leverage JT Miller has in this whole process. If he's only willing to waive his NMC to come here and nowhere else, Vancouver is fucked with a capital F. Especially considering it seems like the situation with him and Pettersson, and Tocchet has really reached a breaking point. Reports are that two of the three scratched Hartford players were going in the deal and from what I've heard, Chytil was going the other way. Not sure if there is another player going with Chytil as well. It sounds like the deal hit a snag when the Rangers refused to take on Miller's full cap hit, so they are looking to get a third team involved.

Yeah, I've seen Lafreniere's name mentioned a lot. Like a lot a lot. The guy I've seen mentioned the 2nd most was Schneider. I thought both of these guys were supposed to be non-starters, but apparently not. I'm going to guess either of those two, the Hartford prospects and picks maybe. I saw Chytil's name mentioned once, but who would want him with his issues? ....The Hartford prospects like I said, I expect to be Sykora and Groulx. Sykora because he is one of our top prospects and Groulx because young centers always seem to be thrown into these types of deals. These are also two of our best scorers with the Pack. Groulx has looked like a find and he's gotten zero time with the parent club. If Groulx is a part of the deal, it likely means that a center from the NYR's isn't going the other way. Kreider's name has popped up again in recent trade rumors but I haven't seen him linked to Vancouver.

MC - EMERY is probably another 2-3 years away from the NHL, baring unforeseen developments. He's probably going to play at least three years at North Dakota and is playing second pairing there, which is a good sign...but he also plays the right side. And as someone mentioned, he's game ain't got much offense to it. I think that's one of the reasons he got passed over for the u20 team. Anyway, this is a longwinded way of saying if the Rangers DO look to replace MILLER...and I don't think they are...they don't have that guy currently in their system. The options on the left in the system right now are ROBERTSON and SCANLIN in Hartford...and neither of them have the level of offense of MILLER...FORTESCUE might be used to replace LINDGREN next season...but even that's a bit of a stretch.

RF4L - I saw two fucking idiots blathering on about that this morning. No fuckin' way. I personally think DRURY is up there with some of the worst GMs in the history of the sport. Certainly in the top five for the Rangers...maybe top three...but he'd be signing his death warrant moving LAFRENIERE for an older player after signing him to a long-term contract that will be capfriendly for years. Also, I mention that it is exceedingly rare for a GM to sign a player to a deal like that and wheel around and trade him three months later. I frankly can't think of an instance where it's happened off the top of my head...I know there were rumors about Vancouver wanting LAF for MILLER back before the Canucks resigned the latter...but that was like two years ago. Pure silliness.

I don't know what to say about the MILLER rumors...I mean, if it's MILLER for Z straight up? No brainer, really. Both players seem to need a fresh start...Z+ for MILLER? Less inclined. LAFRENIERE for MILLER? Fuck no. And ??? for MILLER with salary eaten? I just don't even know what that looks like...Of the players in Hartford scratched...GROULX, CHMELAR and SYKORA...all three are ones that the Rangers could use, but in reality, won't...CHMELAR is a big-bodied winger who plays physical to a degree, but isn't really a banger. 6'5 and 220, he's a natural RW, but plays left. He had a decent rookie season for a Hartford team that has had it's ups and downs. The team-worst +/- isn't really a good stat to own though...Adam SYKORA is a guy I would HATE, HATE, HATE to trade. Sophomore with the Pack, the guy is filling out and continues to be the type of player who gets under opponents' skin. He's made some significant progress in the AHL and is still not legal to drink alcohol in the states...He's a guy this team could REALLY use...but he's also a wing and he's not as talented as some of the guys in the pipeline...so if KAKKO was as expendable as he apparently was, I can't imagine SYKORA is any different...GROULX. I like this guy. I've LIKED this guy. I think he's a decent bottom six center. Plays with an edge and has offensive ability. I thought he beat out CARRICK for a spot in pre-season and TBH, I think he's a better center than BRODZINSKI...but if in CHYTIL'S last absence he couldn't get a game...I see no reason to keep him around if including him in a deal will land MILLER...Long and the short is I agree 10,000 percent to the 20th power with whoever said this is a Marty ST. LOUIS deal in the making...I love MILLER. One of my favorite players. But whenever DRURY makes a trade, we get fucked. Hard. And I have no reason to believe this deal, if it is made, will be any different.

Mika, try a snap shot from the slots area vs backhand on breakaways. Your shot is too good to go to the backhand.

Better defence last night’ now mika is pulling a Carl Haglen on breakaways, but woukd rather her have players that get breakaways vs not.

I think Borgen brings a lot of what the Rangers need right now. Im actually hoping he is sticking around. He clearly stabilized Key and That’s really important. That’s a guy we don't want to cut bait on. It’s bad enough that they’re gonna have to find a new guy since it seems like the right move to part with Lindgren,

“He was good,” Laviolette said. “He played a heck of a game for us. He was feeling it. You could see his energy on the ice, how he was attacking the game.” “He wanted the shootout and to go back out there,’’ Laviolette said. “We wanted him out there. His numbers [in shootouts] in his career are outstanding.” Still, Zibanejad hasn’t picked up a point in three consecutive games.

Zbad only played 20.40 . Lardass should be giving him at least 25 minutes per game, he’s earned it. Maybe give him 2 minute shifts every time he’s on the ice. His 3 chances to score in ot and shootout proved that. Just more proof that lardass is clueless. They are both mental messes. Either lardass is talking him up for drury , or drury has finally figured out that his coach should be traded to a retirement home with an adjoining room Parkinson patient named Maryann with the shaky hands. And he trades some version of Mika for miller to fix one of his great resigning contracts. He’s a cap master bator. Kaapo will prove to be another example of his gm acumen. I hope Dolan is doing his due diligence. He has 2 bozos driving the clown bumper car.

Mika has an NMC and may not waive it to go to Vancouver. This sounds like the Marty St. Louis trade. He would only go to New York , but Slats still overpaid. Drury should play hardball. Vancouver is desperate and the Rangers seem to be playing better. No need to panic.

So 2 younger players for a 32 year old....yep sounds like the rangers....where is Marcel dionne.

I hated losing Kappo but Borgin was super impressive tonight. Zbad snakebit Igor and Columbus goalie were both terrific. Columbus will be even tougher when Monahan and Jenner return

Well yeah I'm getting ahead of myself here but I've previously expressed my concern that shitbox Dreary will start trading off actual young players/assets because he's running out of draft picks.

Rhet0ric - what names from the Rangers main roster have you heard? I read the Canucks turned down Mika Zibanejad. I wonder if Vancouver is throwing in other assets and draft picks?

Friedman also made note of tampering issues that had occurred with members of the Canucks organization earlier in the week. The team released a notice explaining that "nobody is allowed to talk to any of [the team's] players" without their permission. Since then, they have granted certain teams permission to talk to Miller.... As for Vancouver's other star Centre, Friedman clarified that Elias Pettersson "has told the Canucks that he would like to stay."

The two players going from Hartford would be F Adam Sýkora and F Bo Groulx. I've heard a few different names from big club.

Now word is that Rangers don’t want to carry JT Miller’s whole salary and that’s why trade didn’t go down…they’re searching for a 3rd party to retain part of Miller’s salary. People we’re making a big deal that nothing was going to happen because Miller was not asked to waive his NTC…but others are saying it’s the opposite….it means he’s going to the Rangers because Canucks already know JT will accept it.

From Canucks beat writer Dhaliwal: “ 1 of the 3 players scratched by the Rangers in Hartford today was not scratched because of a possible trade to Vancouver for JT Miller. Canucks were very busy today on the Miller trade front.”

Rangers playing so much better since the Kakko trade... I can't stop watching Seattle's games...Kakko with the feed for the lead 28 seconds in tonight. Guess that trade worked out for both parties.. I do wish he produced here, though..

Laviolette said Z had a great game…Was really feeling it….?????….Referred to his success in shootouts…Said Z wanted the chance…

Habs went up 3-0 early in their game and the Leafs and were then blown out 7-3….

Rf4l...your joking I hope trade laffy....yes I know he has been poor lately.. still can't trade a 1 and 2 draft picks but if course it's the the rangers so it'd probably likely.

CoMark... That's true but that CAPS game was a huge turning point for us in a lot of ways. I think we gained a lot of confidence from that loss. As weird as that is to say :)

Z had a great move on his second chance but goalie made a nice save…They almost scored other two were on net but looked like easy saves…I don’t believe Laviolette did him any favors putting him out there in the shootout…Better options at that point….

Bummer Columbus got a point, but 2 points are 2 points. Z is snakebit. I don’t know how to explain it. 2025 the only bad game was against the Caps. Should have won against the stars and the Avs, but the calendar switched and the Rangers started playing better.

How about Panarin dumping the puck in during OT instead of passing it back…Just gave up possession…Dumb…

Even after being humiliated by his coach game in and game out , Rempe was over the boards and one of the first down to pat Igor on the head,with a big smile on his face......what a kid!

Go even though zbad seems to be more involved he had a lot of shit happen. Thought the penalty was a bad call bit mossed two breakaways. Shiuldnt have been picked for ahootout. Maybe smith or carrick. Laffy was about as useful as tits on a bull. He isnt effective at all. Chytil sucks too kreoder seems hurt to me. He is moving very stiff. Igor came up huge. Team played very well defensively

Our major issue is poor D… We just had a shutout and people still bitch….My only complaint is Jsckets get a point so we only pick up one point…

RF4L..LOL, my thoughts too....PS I dont want JT Miller, you dont ever get back with your ex.

Happy they won. But both teams were inept on offense coupled with both goalies playing outstanding. Zbad is a black hole. He can’t be gone soon enough.

That was a high scoring team we shutout….No easy task….Our D was great in second and third period and Igor in a zone in this game…

CHYTIL WTF!!!! You don't stop moving THEN pass the puck...move and pass at the same time.

Thank you CMark - I saw an article after posting - Hartford scratches: F Adam Sýkora F Bo Groulx F Blake McLaughlin F Jaroslav Chmela?

Panarin : pass pass Pass pass pass pass pass pass Just fucking shoot nobody seems to care they play with you

Laff had a teammate to make an easy pass to and just iced the puck…They almost scored off the faceoff…

In such an ugly game, this was definitely a kiss your sister tie top of point...IGOR just made it possible to get more...we'll see

Minor ppoint..but in the latest episode of Rempe's Run, he was pulled from playing just before reaching his 6 minute limit

Laf has not made a good pass all night it seems. He keeps putting the puck to the wrong side of guys or into a corner no one is headed towards other than the CBus defers.

Since that trash holding the stick call the Rangers have not gotten a PP off of two high sticks and an obvious hook.

Drew- JT Miller rumors abound. And the Wolfpack scratched 3 healthy players today, so it’s rumor central!

Full marks for Zib to try that...it almost worked...and the little move with the puck just prior was nifty

COMark that's exactly what he did, and after he was pulled from behind by the same CBus player

Can you get a holding the stick penalty when you don’t grab it? Looked like he locked his stick on the jackets stick!

How was that holding the stick? He used his stick to pull the other guys stick back...are you saying you can hold a stick with both your hand on your own stick and neither stick under your arm with them against your hip?

Obviously not a great game, but I feel like the Rangers aren’t giving up as much defensively. And they’ve had a few good chances. At least they appear to care.

RF- I read what you posted as he was gonna be scratched but the deal fell through. Which if it fell through, he would play I guess?

Borgan just fired that puck to a spot that forced the goalie to leave a rebound...but it came out just behind a Ranger F.

EF just said Miller was gonna be scratched tonight because a deal with the Rangers was imminent but fell thru.

RF: https://sabrenoise.com/3-bad-contracts-the-sabres-need-to-shed-at-the-trade-deadline

Z should be off PP but he isn’t killing it…Panarin runs it and shots rarely get through to Kreider….Fox not helping either…

Panarin holding the puck too long…Laff has no idea what to do when he had the puck….Z has me holding my breath when he is out there…Always caught up ice or floating back….Rangers more skilled team but Jackets working hard every shift…

We should double shift Kreider in the 3rd, he has been so close to scoring a few times.

Yep. The offense runs thru Panarin. 1 more year after this. He's a great talent but IMO should not be the end all to end all.

And there’s Chytil,doing the same thing…passing to Panarin instead of shooting himself. Has see, when the coach keeps double-shifting Panarin it tells the others that he’s the one who needs to score.

JFC. Yep. I've been moaning about separating him from P for weeks. Of course not gonna happen.

Rhet: I think it's because the ice at MSG after all these years is still crap. LOL But seriously, tonight it seems worse that the normal. I think the ice becomes a complete afterthought when there is a road trip and they cover it. They probably got it ready for the game mid day today and had to hurry to try to get it good enough for the game.

Wow a pulse!!!..I do see that CUylle is leanrning from ZBAD..He pulls up on his checks now!

Lafrenière looks awful…just wants to pass the puck. The puck is acting like an anchor…he has no aggressiveness with the puck on his stick….he just looks up and tries to find Panarin

All these years later are we still talking about the MSG ice being shit. Some things never change.

Man...not many guys in the NHL that can steal a puck from a forward without having a stick.

MC - the reason that Laf was ineffective on the PP was because they turned him into a robot….stand next to the net, get the puck and pass it. He had numerous opportunities where he could have whipped the puck on goal,but just dutifully passed it back to the point or high slot. He looked like he had ZERO interest in shooting. It was a ridiculous place to have him. Meanwhile, Z continues to fumble pucks away and make bad passes and he is still out there time after time after time…

JFC - hah, I used that already! :)..But, yeah, from an entetainment perspective, this is as bad as it gets..ANd then there's the buzzsaw Rangers!

JFC: LOL the timing of you post there and mine saying that the ice is creating a slow crawling game couldn't have been better timed

I don't mean by that last post to say that everything is on the ice being bad, just noticing that both teams are struggling with it at times. I think the ice quality is forcing this simple style game and that is making it easier for both teams to defend, and that is making this came sort of crawl along

For love of GOD, stop fucking talking about Jackets, Sam. It feels like we are watching Columbus broadcast....

Both teams are having pucks just seemingly fall away from their sticks, and in one corner, the near boards of the Rangers end in this period, I have seen two rangers and one CBus player go down ad a bunch of pucks bounding over sticks. I think the ice has been covered for a few days and there are some bad spots. Its making for some messy hockey. And for a guy like Zib who for as long as I can remember, struggles a LOT when the ice isn't good, this is not helping.

Be nice if we had a d-man that could lay a big hit out nd maybe give this team a pulse

Wild, no I didn't miss it. They gave Laff a chance, did nothing, Z has done nothing all year. None of those two should be on the pp ahead of Cuyle, Chytl. Fuck I would prefer Carrick over that useless piece of crap!

The awesome defensive specialist Z-shit is ahead of just one player in the entire NHL in the plus-minus category, his minus 25 ranks him 825th out of 826 players. Laff is 771st with minus 12 I know plus-minus isn't always a great stat, but both of them should be fucking ashamed of themselves!

Andrei- agree. We need a shooter. My experimental PP Units would be: Panarin- Laf-Trocheck-Kaliyev-Fox. PP2: Zibanajad-Kreider-Chytil-Cuylle-Miller by default. If Kaliyev faulted I’d try Cuylle on PP1 and Smith on 2.

MC: Miss the run of games Zib wasn't on the top unit and it did absolutely nothing and looked much worse? And in the last 5 games prior to tonight, Zib has 3 PP points. I mean...so yeah...he will be out there

MC - It just sucks them down into the toilet like it has with Cuylle playign with those two..while REMPE perfectly on pace for his 5-6 mins

Hopefully that period is road trip hangover and they get their assess in gear ..

The cuylle-ZABD-Smith line is utterly useless both ways..They have zero clue how to play together..You go ZBAD!

Only Cuylle, Edstrom and Rempe are kids, everyone else is a veteran. Barring injury, Jones will likely never play again.

Got a revolutionary idea, how about a Kaliev on the PP1? But let's keep ZShit on it, cause PP1 is on fire..

And they change with Z K and P there plus a vet stroking coach behind the bench. To expect anything but is IMO fool's gold.

Man if that tip had gone in...that may have been the most wild direction change I have ever seen a player get in that close to the net.

From now on on the PP, you can only make 2 passes, then you HAVE to shoot. I don't care where you are. New law.

VT, Our great d man Miller has the same if not worse offensive stats as Emery. Hopefully, Emery isn't as brain dead as Miller!

Having 4 forwards out there is not the players fault. At least it was not another too many men minor.

So, who was the genius that decided we should play a night home game today, followed by a night away game in Montreal and then a 4 game home stand. It would've made sense to make today's game an earlier start, no? Or am I just picking nits?

LB: Yes, we have confirmed previous reports that negotiations between the league and the NHLPA will all but certainly yield a $97 million salary cap for next season, which would represent a $9 million — 10.23 percent — increase from this year’s $88M. Drury fired yet?

Last year the Pack would scratch guys like this. They have extras, and as the season went along, they would get their extra in and scratch some regulars. A person I know around the Pack said last year they would at times pick a guy because he had a major bruise, or a minor muscle pull or their hand was swollen from a shot hitting it, or a slash, or a fight. Nothing that would put a guy on IR but it helped them choose who got rotated out. So while there is nothing to back it up with, this could be a something like that...and I don't know if they are a line, and if they are a line, well, it could be why those 3 are the ones out.

I get it. Networks have to make money...but MSG cutting to commercial during a moment of silence? That's basically some real bad JuJu right there.

RF- I saw he scratches. I also saw a Wolfpack commentator say they lost badly last game, so maybe a shakeup. But the scratches are CHMLEAR, Sykora and Groulx. So maybe it's unrelated to the pending Miller trade, but maybe they just went with the most mangled name pronunciations? But fueling the fire: Did someone say Dan Muse is close to Miller? I just don't see how a team that obviously had a locker room problem is thinking Miller would be a good idea. I don't care if he's a misunderstood guy who is getting a bad rap. He's just so unlucky that all this drama just follows him around? It just seems like a bad idea to trade for a guy his age. We are willing to give up on Z-cline since he's obviously lost it, but Miller is going to bounce back?

Rf4l yup there is lots of noise. Rick Dhaliwal-JT Miller has not been asked to waive his no trade clause yet but there seems to be a lot activity around Miller today. Some think the Canucks are working hard on this.

Giroux Sykora and Chmelar all scratched for the Pack game today. Trade coming? Lots of noise around Miller today BTW.

BTW: It's official.... "NHL Terminates Player Escrow Withholding".... https://www.si.com/onsi/breakaway/news-feed-page/nhl-terminates-player-escrow-withholding-2025

So, we have 11 game until the 4 Nations Cup break. If we play well enough, we could legit enter the break in 4th place in the Metro. It all starts tonight.

ANybody know the possible lines for tonight? After 3 Big booy games agasint Vegas, Devils and Dallas, 4 more agasint teams above the Rangers (CBJ, MON, OTT, Philly).Gmes that coulddecide alot for the future direction this year....They can sweep if they play like they did in the 3rd period the other night (as the Hospodamus Cracked Crystal ball said)...Lose all four if they play like they did the first 40 minutes..Let's see

Has anybody had a chance to watch EJ Emery play at North Dakota? I've been tracking his stats, but haven't seen him play this season. I know he is highly regarded as a shut-down d-man, but man his lack of offensive production is really something. It looks like he is playing 2nd pair and is averaging 20 minutes a game as a freshman, but he's got no goals and 1 assist in 22 games. That's pretty hard to do as player who has played every game is getting that much ice time. You'd think a few more assists would come his way just by chance.

Stay the hell away from Miller but this being the stupidly managed Rangers I will have zero surprise if Dreary acquires him. And overpays.

Drury fired yet. Can we get kakko back for a first rounder do it Drury you fucking moron

I just looked up the phrase "locker-room cancer" and there was a picture of JT Miller there. The guy has had splintered locked rooms wherever he has gone. Twice in Vancouver. The last time it happened they traded a couple of players to solve the problem, but here it is once again. Miller has had on ice dust ups with several teammates over the years before Pettersson. He was already sent home at one point this season to have a "reset." He's on video tuning out his coach and he quite literally has quit on his team ....but somehow, it's not his fault and NYR fans want to see more of this in NY? Let him go to NJ.

WILD - yes, good points and that is all possible...Still, that stretch was the best and most complete i have ever seen him play..All facets of his game (well except but rushing the goal)..And his top end passing surprised the shit out of me...Then there was the last last two or three games where he dropped down.....Anyways, I've been bullish on KK so I think he will put it all together big time..and wouldn't have traded him ..but....only time will tell

Hospo: Until he wasn't doing that with Cuylle and Chytil. Let's not forget that in his last 20 games he had just 7 points, and in his last 10 games just 2. Thats his MO. Playing great for 10-15 games, then disappearing for 10-15 games. Maybe it was the pressure of NY, but if that's the case then it's not development, in NY, he would just never find consistency there. He is 13 games in with Seattle. So, it's too soon to know if he will have one of his drop offs.

TD: I agree with your description of Z up to a point. Historically, he has not played "soft," but for some reason he seems to have become "soft" this season. In some ways, he appears to be taking the late-stage Rick Nash approach to the game (which I totally understand in Nash's case given his head injury history). Mika has a history of concussions (more so in his early career) and I read somewhere that he has also struggled with migraines in the past. This year, especially, he seems to have a heightened distaste for heavy body contact. In any event, Z will need to play ball with Drury if any deal is going to happen. If I were Z's mental health counselor, I would have strong reservations about voluntarily jumping from the Ranger pressure cooker to what would likely be a more stressful situation in Vancouver. If he's going to go, I think he would probably opt for a nice city with little chance to win in the near team. If he's interested in trying to win a Cup, I think he would opt for a team like Toronto, where he would be #4 or #5 on the totem pole and would not be subject to the intense pressure he would face in Vancouver. Mika holds most of the cards here. Just some arm-chair psychological musings on a Saturday morning.

The Wall can see it, how can the brain trust not? What is keeping the full development of our young players and not getting max effort from the vets is the coach and to top it off he is the third strike for the GM.

10 points in his last 10 games for KK. Gawd Dreary sux and all of DQ GG and Lardiolette are idiots.

If DD drury can trade zbad for a decent return, even if it’s a three way to get miller, the time has come. I think he needs a new restart. But I think he’s showing a decline in his ability to perform as expected. Hopefully other teams don’t see that. It’s time to part ways and if Kreider can’t handle losing him then he’s got to go too. For whatever reasons lardass keeps relying on zhair. But most know my real choices to go are still the wet blankets, the coach and the gm first. Their actions are unforgivable , and shows who they really are.

E - yep..O'Reily doesn't hit but plys physicl (FORSBERG, OTOH, does hit)....Barkov doesn't hit but is physical (Bennet, OTOH,does hit!)...Kakkao doesn't hit, but was playing physical..Many players are the same...ZBAD isn't one of them

And it's a shame that the apathetic performance by the vets and the poor handling of plyers by Drury & Laviolette lead to the pissing away of Kakkao and the ripping apart of Kakkao-Chytl-Cuylle to try and get the vets going

Physicality isn’t just about throwing hits; it’s about how a player uses their body to impact the game. O’Reilly may not hit much, but he battles hard and dominates in key areas, which is why no one calls him soft. Hits alone don’t define toughness smart physical play does. Florida succeeded with high level of grit across their lineup, not all hit leaders but collectively they were a monsoon of grit while Nashville had an incredibly high hit count didn’t compensate for lack of skill in their lineup. It’s about balance, not extremes. The alchemy is way more complicated than some plug and play that some fans think it is. What the Rangers lack is identity

KAKKAO with another great pass/assist on the Kraken PP..Just like he was doing with Cuylle and Chytl.....Hmmm

Jfc31 unfortunately Z ain't going there.... otherwise heck yeah I make the deal....nuks also said no...oh well unto next year...is Drury fired yet. Is neil smith available

After my earlier post and the good discussion that followed I gotta say this…I CRAVE Miller on this team as much as I think it’s a disaster waiting to happen! In so many ways he is EXACTLY what this team ends in terms of a take-no-prisoners, high skill demon like JT Miller. I just don’t understand why everywhere he goes, there seems to develop a problem. Now, I will say this…I was not aware of the closeness of JT’s connections with Muse and others who tdchi mentioned and I think that is a positive when thinking JT would be understood and they wouldn’t want him if they thought he’d go off the rails. But still, I understand why Drury would covet JT Miller…I want his TYPE of player here…we NEED his kind! My only question is, is the cure gonna be eventually worse than the disease? But, yeah…if it’s straight up Z for JT Miller, you pull the trigger 100%. If EVER there was a chance for that type of deal to happen, it is RIGHT NOW. The Vancouver situation is very, very bad right now…this is when a few JD & cokes between 2 pissed oh GM’s on the phone can lead to a blockbuster!

Hospo - I'm sure this'll come as a surprise, but I think JT MILLER would dramatically improve this team in many different ways. I wouldn't push a bunch of young players at the Canucks for him, but if it were Z? Yep, I'd do that. Without a doubt.

Everyone has their own definition of how a player plays. I disagree with all of them. With very few exceptions, I wouldn't describe anyone who plays in the NHL as 'soft.' Too often, I see the term used to describe players not throwing hits, and I think that's just not a good metric. There are some bad-ass players, and when you look at their hits? Not that much...Name that comes to mind there? Ryan O'REILLY. I don't think ANYONE would call that dude 'soft.' But go check out his hits. And let's just say he's got less than Z on a regular basis...Dude I WOULD say you'd watch and probably call 'soft?' Brayden SCHENN. Dude never struck me as anything special physically...but look at his hits? 100-plus since his rookie season...conversely, you have guys...SHERWOOD is one of them...that just run around hitting whatever they can...taking themselves out of position and doing next to nothing...Case and point? Out of the leaders in hits last season, the Florida Panthers...who I think most here would call a 'hard' team...or physical at least...had only ONE player in the top-50. And who was that? Nikko MIKKOLA, who I personally wouldn't label a particularly physical, aggressive or hard player...and four in the top 100(LOMBERG at 54, BENNETT at 61 and TKACHUK at 91)...Nashville, which had FOUR players with more than 200 hits...THREE in the top 20 in the league...Got bounced from the playoffs after six games...so soft? What is soft? What is the opposite? I'll close by what I always say, which is that hockey is the ultimate TEAM sport. You need all flavors of players to make it to the end. You need the right blend. So if you got a guy that doesn't throw as many hits as the average NHL? Don't matter if he wins faceoffs and overpowers goaltenders with his shot. JMHO.

I say no to JT ...not at 32....unless Mika goes back one for one which ain't happening.... Drury fired yet..

I think I said it earlier in the season when rumors started about JT. If he had just next year left it would be worth the risk depending on price. Because the honeymoon would probably last that long. But with so much time left…no way.

TDCHI - Good insight and information on JT's connection with Ranger players and coaches to go along with a familiar spot...It kinda gives some support to my more simplistic "NY is the only place JT Miller might feel comfortable with now".........Of course we disagree on ZBAD:)..Yes i think he is soft..Yes i think Pettersson is soft...so are quite a few other Canuck forwards...But I also know you can't or shouldn't have 12 tough forwards...but you need at least 1 or 2 top forwards that can play the dirty and physical game..not just the role players you mentioned for Vancouver..Canucks don't have that even with Miller though Sherwood is giving a good imitation right now......Anyways, as far as dealing problem child JT, I think the Canucks seem to be between a rock and a hard place with Miller..but so might the next team that gets JT at a discounted price!..As the Ranger World turns..

Also, while I understand WHY some folks are of the opinion Z 'isn't a TOCHETT player' I just don't agree. At all. And here's why: Elias PETTERSSON. If y'all think Z's soft...and frankly, I don't...but...well, you ain't seen nothin' because PETTERSSON is pretty much the definition of what most of you would consider Charmin. The thing is, you don't need all 12 forwards to be sandpaper to win a cup. And further? The Canucks, outside of SHERWOOD, JOSHUA, SOUCY and MILLER himself, who apparently TOCHETT doesn't much like...they're not exactly a team based on physicality. In other words, let's not get TOCHETT the player mixed up with TOCHETT the coach. And even if they ARE one and the same? HE AIN'T THE GM! At any rate, I think the deal would make a lot of sense for both teams in many ways, and frankly, the only reason I can see that MILLER isn't on this team right now is that the Canucks want too much for him...OAN...I also heard a certain shitbag loser-ass team in the metro area that happens to have a few too many HUGHES brothers is also looking at MILLER. And that, folks, is the thing that nightmares are made of.

Obviously, there isn't a soul who has surfed onto the Wall in the past decade who doesn't know my fierce affinity for JT MILLER...Likewise, I am and continue to be a HUGE fan of ZIBANEJAD...I think BOTH players are maligned and misunderstood here...and that BOTH have their efficacy...The issue in Vancouver to me comes down to a tale of two identities. Obviously, there's some friction between him and PETTERSON, and that's a big issue...Problem for the Nuckleheads is that the guy they NEED is MILLER, and the guy who is their future is PETTERSSON. So trade MILLER and reboot or trade PETTERSSON and go for it now...ZIBANEJAD would give them a chance to have their cake and eat it too. Putting Z with PETTERSSON would probably do A LOT for both...likewise, MILLER is EXACTLY the type of player this team needs. And he's obviously got a history here. He grew up not far from TROCHECK and they know each other...Him and VESEY were both on the US team that won the u20 gold in 2013. Miller was an alternate captain. And their coach? Phil Housely. Oh and an assistant coach of that team? Fellow named Gran POTULNY, who happens to be coaching the Pack right now. Care to guess who their video coach was that year? Fellow by the name of Dan MUSE. You might see him behind the bench from time to time...at any rate, the point I make is that if you think MILLER is a wildcard, there are CERTAINLY enough folks in New York right now who have been a part of his career, including some of the most successful moments of it...And if things HAVE soured between him and TOCHETT, maybe Vancouver would do a straight up trade. The bits and pieces I've heard is that this move was already proposed and the Canucks wanted more. I also heard Z wanted nothing to do with it, but that was more from fans who I'm pretty sure were making assumptions...I frankly think Z would do just about anything at this point to get the monkey off his back, and getting am ubertalented linemate/countryman like PETTERSSON might be the right tonic. He won't get that in New York, that's for sure...Anyway, were I to Kreskin this thing? I don't think it'll ever happen...and if it does, it'll happen when we're least expecting it. The Rangers are on the right track right now and playing well...could very well be the right time for it.

IF JT's mental health is as messed up as his latest actions and quotes I am reading today show, he may be untradeable except to the only place where he would feel comfortable enough to waive the NMC..I can't see that being anywhere but the Rangers..Maybe the Penguins--isn't he from around there?..But even the Rangers/Pens aren't likely to make such a risky and poorly timed deal....And the only way for the Rangers to fit JT is to jettison ZBAD but, like PJ mentioned, Not a good fit in Vancouver where he would be doubling down on the Charmin factor with Pettersson..Have to be other teams involved...........BUt, shit, lets win the next 4 games first the nworry about.....Am real curious about the Lines and who draws in if REMPS doesn't play (and why would Fat Bastard play him more than 5 mins??)----Vesey??? Brodz?? a call up like Berard

There was a strong rumour a week or so ago that Dreary offered up Z for Miller and was turned down. Of course, with that NMC who knows what actually happened, if anything.

PJ: I'm not saying one for one and agree that Z does not fit the Tocchet program. Just noting that both teams have expensive/complex problems on their hands and Drury may increasingly view Miller as a means to solve Drury's problem with Z as the Miller situation escalates. As we know, it takes two to tango, but teams do stupid shit when they are desperate to stop the immediate pain.

Something that wasn’t mentioned to much last night is the fact Laff saved possibly two goals with backchecking and good D in our end…For sure one as it would have been a tap in…Nice to see this…

Good win last night, but man the first and second periods confirmed that the beast of shitty team defense is lurking and ready to reemerge at any time. The same old horrendous coverage of the high slot and failure to cover trailing players had me truly despondent. Anyway, glad to see that the boys can tighten things up when they want to. As far as JT Miller goes, I fear that Drury may consider bringing JT in as the best option to rid himself of Z (assuming Z consents).

JFC - Yeah, I think tha is probably on the mark..Would love the player that JT Miller is..but so much drama with his personality and meltdowns...would it be any better than the opposite of the wet noodle and ES invisible man, but also a very easy going and likable guy for his teammates that ZBAD is? OTOH, Can MIller make things any worse for the youunger Rangers given the way that Laviolette has handled Kakkao, Jones, Rempe, Chytl and even Cuylle the last month???

JT Miller may be everything Drury wants in a player but he needs to stay far, far away. JT creates drama everywhere he goes and things in Vancouver are horribly ugly right now with Tocchet ripping Miller on the bench and in the press and Miller actually getting up,from his seat on the bench while Tocchet is admonishing him and moving down to the end of the bench in a sign of disrespect. Miller’s price is probably at the lowest it will ever be right now but we already have enough drama and our core of ykung players getting exposed to too many bad lessons and too much negativity. and yeah, if we got JT, I wouldn't be surprised to see him go on a heater and push this team towards the playoffs…but,then we are stuck with the inevitable MELTDOWN that will come…further exposing our young guys to more negativity.

From X. I said this earlier this season when records were matching. “For the #NYR fans looking for hope and something to hold on to after this road trip. #TimeToHunt we’re 21-20-5 on January 17th 2023, that team went on an incredible run to the finals. #NYR are 21-20-3 today. Both teams had won the President’s Trophy the year prior”

Rempe had 2 shifts in the second period. Not much more than one. But still. And Edstrom had 5 shifts. Only 10 Second sleds than the 6 shifts he had in the first and 30 Second s’more than the 6 shifts in the third. The reason Rempe sat is probably multi reasoned. He seemed to be struggling off the puck a bit last night. He was chasing and leaving big lanes open for Utah players to get open in. Then that was coupled with Cuylle bringing a lot of energy every shift and helping drive play and create turnovers. So he was double shifted. But yeah. If he isn’t going to play a full period plus it’s not good.

Oh, and please tell me that REMPs has been reassigned to Hartford...that one of the lines for Saturday is Edstrom-Carrick-Cuylle..and that Jones...well, faggedabout him....Speaking of CARRICK, i haven't been wrong much on DRURY's trades and UFAs the last two years but God was I sooooo wrong on CARRICK..Not just the edge he brings, but there is also some skill and leadership there too

THe current state of the Rangers and the holes in the lineup and organization are all on Drury's almost 100% Dreary moves the past two years..yet, from the chattter and media about none of this being his fault and that he has Dolan bamboozled to start all over again..This is the joker to do that? I dread the coming deadline.......

RDW: Yeah, that would be a nice fetch on Dreary's part. Who knows what he's thinking though. I suspect it'll be more futures for ineffective rentals in the next few weeks...

Rempe in the lineup, Rangers win. Now we just got to convince the genius to PLAY him. What a shit show coaching debacle.

Limbo: I've brought this up before but I think this guy should be a target for Drury.... https://www.eliteprospects.com/player/665087/lian-bichsel

Have no clue why LINDGREN is still on this team. I’m not saying BORGEN and the Finn are great, or even good. But, we really don’t need that. If we just had avg play from half of our D last year, we might have snuck by FLA. LINDY is so far below avg, it’s mind boggling how he is still here. Replacing him and the mindless Miller with 2 more avg NHL defenders and you’ll see another uptick in play. If they resign BORGEN, I’d like to get SCHNEIDER a chance on the left. He he can also continue his avg play on the left, it will help balance things with 2 more young right D coming up in the next year or so. Still hoping CK brings back a young possible 1LD. Or at least a player not actively bad that drags down FOX, and potentially…god forbid…step up and actually cover for the guy if/when he needs it. Something FOX hasn’t had his entire career.

I went to bed after the 2nd - guess I should do that more often! LOL. Nice to see that they pulled it out. But in reading the comments I see nothing has changed - P out on the 6 on 5 (and he scores which only solidifies Lardiolette's thinking); Rempe 5 minutes of icetime. LOL. Drury is gonna make another dumbass trade - I can feel it coming.

Stay the hell away from JT Miller. The Rangers are already suffering from suspect leadership - they don't this disruptive dude in their room!

Sounds like a guy DD drury will pursue. He’s probably writing a new memo . Who do you want Kreider zhair jones lindgren or all of the above. Let’s make a deal Monty.

"JT has gone from a warrior to quitter": NHL fans react as J.T. Miller seemingly ignores HC Rich Tocchet after bench conversation..... https://www.sportskeeda.com/us/nhl/news-jt-gone-warrior-quitter-nhl-fans-react-j-t-miller-seemingly-ignores-hc-rich-tocchet-bench-conversation

This should help his trade value... "Tocchet on JT Miller: ‘It feels like every time he’s on the ice, something bad happens’"....https://canucksarmy.com/news/tocchet-jt-miller-feels-every-time-hes-on-ice-something-bad-happens

“ Zac Jones was a healthy scratch for the 10th straight game and the 12th time in the last 13. The Rangers scored a shorthanded goal for the second straight game, which gave the team seven on the season. That’s good for third in the NHL behind only the Panthers (11) and Lightning (8). ”… well at least they beat U-turn. Casey jones will probably be a throw in for DD drury’s next trade. Dolan will let him put his stamp on the Nyr to take away his excuses of his cya this is what I inherited bs. Lardass ice time will always be a bone of contention. He’s not very kid friendly, except for his grammar school haircut. Maybe Hank , in his role of Nyr ambassador, can take him to his haircutter and suit maker. Instead of the schlubs he goes to. He probably makes $5 million and looks like he makes $50 thousand or less a year. Look sharp feel sharp , rather than dull.

CANUCKS lost ugly again tonight 5-1. JT Miller could be in trouble, playing just 14:34. Fans have been calling him out specifically, primarily because he's usually the guy that calls out others. They're saying it's due to disinterested play and that he looks like he's quit on the team. It's been reported that he will be the most likely of the two players to be traded(between him and Petterson), even despite his NMC. SEATTLE has been the latest rumor du jour for his final destination.... Just leave us out of it. We have enough of our own problems.

said yesterday, would want to see how much Laviolette used Remps the next 4 games agasint lesser opponents...well, I saw enough tonight...Feel bad and i like him, but send the kid down..best for all...especially Cuylle...and maybe Vesey too ..play him with the other two vets

PJ - Yeah, you're right....chasing them all..must wins all of them...and doable..If teams like CBJ and Detroit can win like 7 in a row after blowing chunks..so can the Rangers!

Right now, not likely we finish Top 3 in the Metro,so, aren't we chasing MTL also and the game is just as important?..Although the most important game is alwys the next one!!!

Believe the BJ’s have won six in a row and we are one of the teams chasing them…Must win Saturday…Can’t believe I am saying we are chasing the BJ’s…

Yeah, IGOR gave up a couple of bad goals in the last game and another couple of tough ones tonight. I'm hoping it's not a continuing thing for him like last season when he went through that streak. We can't afford it. I'm guessing IGOR on Sat and Quick. on Sun. We need both games but the Columbus game is HUGE!

Sloppy 40 minutes but always good when the best 20 mins is when you need it at the end..Last 6 games..10 out of 12 points..Not bad even if not always pretty...Despite what Sam/Dickletts say about the greatness of the upcoming opponents..Rangers should win the next 4 if they are serious

Likely just an off niught for IGOR for whatever reason..it happens....he ws off from the start.Play QUICK against CNJ nd IGOR back in Sunday for MOntreal

WTF is Panarin doin out on the 6-5 against ... he just blindly passed up the middle .. created that scrum .. fortunately we recovered and got the empty netter .. but what was Laviolette thinkin... Carrick is one of the few Rangers to exceed expectations this year, earning his keep

Came alive in the third and took the game over…Allowed very little in the third…..Will need to play much better this weekend…Igor worries me…

ANother great outcome of the game is that Cuylle-ZBAD-SMITH has to be finished.....CUYLLE-Caarrick-Edstrom can be a really good line and Cuylle can go back to playing hockey the way he knows...Who cares who plays with Smith and ZBAD at ES, AK34, Brodz, Vesey, doesn't matter...ANd yeah, REMPS haas gotta to go if Laviolette won't play him against a tem like this

Agree HOSPO, the team played a decent half game which was enough with a goalie who was fighting it.

Rempe with 5:33 on 8 shifts. If he's only going to play more when we have big leads, why is he here coach? Send him down and call up berard. He needs to play real minutes.

No way they should have lost to this team toinight...Thank GOD 20 mins of good TEAM hockey was enough to get it done after 40 minutes of shit....

It was ugly but it was a win. We played down to the competition, but it takes finding all kind of ways to win to have win streaks.

Wow. They actually leading now. Who would have thought that shooting produces goals??

CNP - 1 shift in the 2nd period...He'll be in Hartfird for the weekend..it's the only thing that makes sense..

Wish I could say I saw that goal. People next to us decided to leave right before that play and were standing in front of us when the goal was scored. These fans are not hockey fans yet!

Great FO win by Carrick..!!! Good move having Carrick on instead of AK34 for the draw

Learn the lesson .. goalie is a sieve.. shoot the f'in puck and stop over passing

Rangers were due a stinker. Whole team is not playing well. What 9 win game run they are talking about? This team? Right…

I’m in the upper deck to the left of Shesty, can’t see the entire corner. Sucks. And people have no hockey etiquette here. Stand up, leave seats during play. I paid $27 for the tickets. About $22 too much! Lots of Ranger fans here, they paid tribute to Adam (didn’t in CO because they are self-absorbed!). Apparently this isn’t a problem for basketball!

Just ram Cuylle-Carrick-Edstrom at them every third shift!!..Give Remps a head start on his trip back to Hartford, whic is coming..Bench ZBAD=SMith except for special teams

The NYR's need to come out big in the 3rd, instead of acting like they're trying to lose it.

The only cross check I saw was the initial one by the Utah player , bull shit call

Well structure some what came back the last 10 min of that period but with the rangers gaining momentum that phantom call is a killer

CAPE - been saying for weeks..Cuylle needs to be playing with more straigh ahead agressive players..Obviously Kakkao is gone..only oth option Is Carrick..and maybe Edstrom

You’re right Hospo , seems like a long time ago since they were incredible together . Until they decided KK was the one who had to go

PJ - Choirboys? I think I might have used that once or twice in the past? :) Even Cuylle aand Schneider try to keep it as clean as possible...There's Carrick, the only guy with any mean in him

Cuylle hasn’t been the same since KK was traded . Those two worked well together

All about trying to find something to help vets like ZBAD and SMith..and it hasn't..Meaanwhille Cuylle regresses and totally confused how to play with them...ANd, broken record, Cuylle-Chytl-Kkkao ws the best line in hockey for a month

Wish we had some players with more of a mean streak….I get more upset than this boys choir…

Shesty is a scrambling mess..,he’s getting by purely by his athletic ability but he’s a mess

RF4L - He's been doing nothing for 10 games..not a fit at all with ZFLOAT and Smith..He needs a banging/cycling mate to be effective

Remps already benched 30 mins in i guess...DOn't mind seeing CUylle plying with Carrick and Edstrom rather then with those other two schmoes

Sam & Joe mentioned pregame that Shesty was very shaky in warmups…he kept letting up goals and he slammed his stick on the crossbar. And Rangers seemingly have copied Shesty’s shaky play with their own

It always amazes me how a player who pretty much shoots the puck on a net every days for probably the last 20 years misses the net as often as he does. I’m not sure who has worse aim him or Z.

Definition of insanity…. Doing the same thing over and over again but expecting different results…. Lav needs to be fired

Lafrenière gets the puck near the net on the PP and shows absolutely no attempt to shoot the puck…he’s just looking to pass every time he gets it and everyone knows it

SMith slow and lazy on the backcheck..A great vet move! God, I hate thta Cuylle-ZBAD-Smith line

Team is clearly going to chase this game- playing with structure and defensive is hard.

Going nowhere with this coach. Defensive play is atrocious and has been so for weeks.

Cape _ been trying to do the same..Just not feeling it toniught! Neither are the Rangers so far!

Hospo…they need to tighten up big time ! Every Utah possession turned into a scoring opportunity. And the lines still might not be perfect but I would hope they get better as they play more together . At this point I’m looking for any positives !!

Just a thought on trading Shesty......no point in doing it with Drury at the wheel...the "return " would set us back for years. Any other GM would get a boat load in return that would turn this ship around in a hurry.

Glass half full .. played poorly and instead of being gown 2-0 .. it's tied.. simplify gets pucks deep and make them come 200 feet and not turning it over at the blueline or neutral zone.. Shesty settles down .. their goalie is a sieve .. DO NOT GET SUCKED INTO A E/W trading chances game like before

Can’t ours coaches correct this leaving the slot open to a trailer over and over again?…It isn’t difficult to see what Utah is doing and they have no fear of pinching…

CAPE - That goal by the Pillsbury Dough Tank aside, I don't like the 2nd and 3rd lines one bit..But, even then, it's the woefull defense by the forwards and D that is screwing the team tonight..Need to tighten up big time

It seems like it’s been forever since they scored a couple of even strength goals, I’m starting to like the make up of the four lines. Something had to change and I hope it’s for the good

Kreider and Kaliyev in front of the net together, another couple of Twin towers.

They need to get back to the way they played the last 4 or5 games. They just have to tighten up, more holes than Bonnie and Clyde’s car

Cuylle has been underwhelming at best, a mess at worst since playing with those two vets

Body language from the team looks exactly like it did during their horrible run...

Rangers look like shit. Helps none when the soon to be overpaid goalie is off his game.

Am I being a tad over sensitive or are Nosendick babbling more than usual so far?

I try to watch the stream of the other team whenever possible...Couldn't do it tonight...Rosen & Michletti are a horror to listen to..

So Zibanejad is between two players and MIller is standing right behind him, just watching.

Yeah, keep talking about that great defense Sam! I really do not like the Cuylle-ZBAD-Smitgh line!

Wow... The Canucks really need a win tonight. Some of the fans don't seem like their too happy with JT MILLER these days. He needs a big game.

Drove to Salt Lake, hoping for a win! Not liking the first shift against the speedy Avs, so why not start the same 5!

Hoping for a win tonight which will cap a very successful road trip…Agree Vesey should be back in…Let the new guy get in game shape…Jones long overdue and really disturbing…

In regards to Tony DeAngelo: You will be shocked to find out that the Russian newspapers have a much different story to tell about DEA :) ...This guy man. He had the opportunity to go to Russia, bear down, start over and reinvent himself there. What did he decide to do? Double down on being Tony D. I mean it's worked so well for him so far, right? He overplayed on shifts, bitched about not being on PP1 and his favorite expression to use in the clubhouse was "Fuck you." Keep in mind that he's playing in Russia and many of his teammates don't even speak English, but I'm sure they understand that word :)

RF4L - I am no huge fan of JONES, but just don't get the treatment of him... And good coaches keep their players involved especially when a few other guys aren't playing great and wins are at a premium...I could easily see Vesey give a spark..Oh well, hope the rest carry the load tonight...

Meant Mattias Samuelson as the LHSD, Malenstein is a wing, who plays an abrasive game

No Jones, Vesey or JBrod tonight. Jones wasting away. Excellent job Dreary. You suck.

Watched a bit of the Buffalo/Carolina game yesterday, if we're shopping for a LHSD,BUF has a few interesting candidates not named Dahlin, or Power, although they may be willing to part with Power who I'm not interested in... They have Beck Malenstein (?)

TDCHI - You also kinda liked KRAPHEAD for a bit..I remember your guarantee...Just busting your chops..we ALL (well, maybe except for 1 or 2) swing and miss big time..part of the fun.........As for tonight, besides the Personnel changes I would make (that Big Country won't), I hope to God the Rangers play a tight structured game agasint UTAH, not like the clusterfuck of the first game when they lost in OT and gave up six..that is up to Laviolette..

From winky squinty rumors about DD drury continuing on his so called trading plan…https://youtu.be/N3dY03c-uR8?si=PFsDnfluHHiI1XOf

Still so disappointed LIAS couldn't pull it all together. He looked like a fantastic prospect out of the gate. Loved buzzing around the net. But hey...gotta take your lumps if you're going to champion players. This was a big one for me.

Wow, Pea Brain DeAngelo and KRAPSHOT..two names we can do without remembering or hearing!..And I'll take Lias ANdersson for Show!

tdchi/rf4l - I take it back, I forgot about how you can have access to our Beloved Blueshirts...https://www.nhl.com/rangers/community/casino-night

Full: https://www.dailyfaceoff.com/news/tristan-jarry-debacle-kyle-dubas-disastrous-timeline-pittsburgh-penguins-gm

Seravelli...ma' dude...I get you don't like DUBAS...and he ain't very good...but seriously with this...I just can't. The Penguins absolutely FLEECED the Rangers on this one: "June 28, 2023: In his first trade, Dubas bailed out the Vegas Golden Knights and traded a third-round pick in exchange for forward Reilly Smith, who had two years remaining at a full $5 million per year. After a below-average season in which Smith’s goal production was cut in half, Dubas traded Smith to the New York Rangers on July 1, 2024 for a pick one round higher in the 2027 (!) Draft that might not help the Penguins until 2030. In addition, Dubas added $1.25 million in dead space to the Penguins’ books by retaining 25 percent on Smith."

I mean, that's really sports in general...but definitely the Garden ain't what it used to be. The security there is like the fucking Gestapo...ESPECIALLY if you're in the lower bowl. And if you're not? You ain't EVER getting down there. They will track you down and chase you out the second the game starts...still, it's just the way it is these days. I mean, what do you expect. The lower bowl prices are like $400-plus on a shit night. You really kind of...how shall I say...limit the type of person you have in that area that way...I mean shit. Seems like Rangers fans are louder in other arenas than they are at the Garden these days...

rf4l - spot on with the Rangers Front Office having dosdain for their fans. That's why the lower bowl is mostly corporate or wealthy fans who can afford to watch a period of hockey. I mentioned a few days ago Gulf + Western and Paramount ownership of the Rangers. It seemed much more fan friendly. I remember JD and Sam both being able to be objective on MSG airwaves. Bullet Bob Page Sportsdesk was always a fun watch after a game (especially a win)

SPEAKING of the KHL...I'm surprised no one here has brought up our good buddy Turd DeANGELO, who apparently burned out his welcome in Mother Russia. He's 'coming back to North America' because of 'family issues.' Curiously, those 'family issues' materialized shortly after he started getting benched. And 'coming back to North America' is also known to mean signing in the Swiss league or somewhere else in Europe...unless, of course, an NHL team has reached a point of desperation significant enough to enlist the vacant blackhole of space between his ears.

Let's put 'success' and 'tearing it up' in the KHL in perspective: KRAVTSOV is still inexplicably not a point-per-game player and his 36 points are just a few over another familiar name: 36-year-old former Rangers great Steve KAMPFER, who has 27. Not sure I'd even consider the KHL the second best league now, TBH.

Actually, what Seravelli said makes perfect sense...at least to anyone not named DRURY...the way I read it is that the Rangers' season is cooked. They just can't get back into this, and are a weaker, less-talented team than they were at game 1. They need to basically be a .675 percent the rest of the season just to MAKE the playoffs...but instead of steering the nose of the plane to the ground, the idea is to build around what IS working and compensate for what is not...in other words, start the game plan now for next season, but stay competitive for this one. If the goal is to land a couple of banger bottom-liners like FREDERIC and KUNIN...or more likely, to take a run at landing Sam BENNETT...well...they need to find that cap space. Most of what they have now goes *POOF* with the LAFRENIERE and SHESTERKIN deals, not to mention whatever they give MILLER...So maybe that does mean wheeling LINDGREN at the deadline. Likewise, if they're going to take a run at free agency, BORGEN is an easy guy to move...And instead of getting picks...ask for NHL-close prospects...so if the idea is to move LINDGREN to a contender, maybe they could land someone like Calum RITCHIE from Colorado, or Connor GEEKIE from the Bolts or Chaz LUCIUS from the Jets...so rather than picking a bunch of guys who may or may not be ready in three years, they get low-cost guys waiver-ineligible guys that can hop in next season...now...do I think DRURY is smart enough to do that?! FUCK NO. He's gonna shoot for the highest price UFA he can find, squeak into the playoffs, get bounced like a friggin' superball, and then lose everything on July 1. Two or three more seasons like the last, and the Rangers will be at their next rebuild.

Hey Fat Bastrd, Keep Your team nd locker room together, let players who don't deserve to sit so long also play...Perfect time to put BOTH VESEY and JONES in tongiht..Give Drury pets AK34 and Vakanininen a breather..Or maybe just sit Rempe and a scuffling Cuylle and play Brodz and Vesey

Rangers 1st-round bust tearing it up in KHL.... https://www.foreverblueshirts.com/new-york-rangers-news/vitali-kravtsov-1st-round-bust-success-khl/

Yep. The utter silence from Dreary through all this is yet another reason to dislike the man. They take their fans for granted. And why not? Continual sellouts and inexplicable loyalty despite far more shit than not...

“Considering the fact he opened the season on injured reserve with a fractured clavicle, Kaliyev has had to not only shake off the rust from missing the first three-plus months of the season, but also re-acclimate to just the second NHL team he’s ever been part of.”… the musical instrument?….. why did they throw him in instead of a 10 day stint in Hartford ? ….you would think the gm or the coach would explain their thinking…guess it’s an upper body secret. This is one weird organization. Fans are on a need to know or go find out basis ….https://nypost.com/2025/01/15/sports/rangers-arthur-kaliyev-still-settling-in-with-his-new-team/

“ The Hartford Wolf Pack is having a Matt Rempe bobblehead-themed night on Jan. 25.”… leftovers for msg? …rockem sockem robot….

Hospo doesn't matter if we make the playoffs ...this team as constructed is not even a good team. Coach as well is average at best..

Rangers win the next 5 very winnable games (one can hope, right?), things may change a little...All up to the current players

No Frank, it does not make sense.... “Right now, they’re trending to be sellers,” NHL insider Frank Seravalli said. “But, I still don’t believe that Chris Drury is going to sit back and do nothing.... “I think they’re going to be buyers for the long haul, but maybe not fixing this season, if that makes any sense.”

According to Seravalli, the three teams leading the race to land the former three-time Stanley Cup champion and Blackhawks legend are the Leafs, the Winnipeg Jets and the Colorado Avalanche.... «The Leafs, Jets and Avalanche are all legitimate Stanley Cup contenders," Seravalli said. «They'd be interested to see what one of the most clutch players of his generation still has left in the tank."

And, to me, the Rangers should be all about winning the next 5 games..i would put VESEY in Over AK34 in a second

Agree on EDSTROM , he has turned it up a notch physically and everything...OTHMAN has a ways to go..To me, BERARD likes playing in the NHL and I like his munchkin motor...But still needs learning defensively/positionally...Maybe if and when the Rangers (not the fans) say good bye to the season, he can play consistently

By the way, I do very much dislike the benching of VESEY. I think him and CARRICK would be a fantastic duo to kill penalties. But alas, we got too many forwards at this point. With the further emergence of EDSTROM, and a return to health of OTHMANN...also BERARD looking more than comfortable in the NHL...I would strongly look into dealing SMITTY Jr. right now.

We obviously disagree on REMPS, but that's cool..I had no problem with his ice time agasint the very good and fast skating Avalanche..he did well when in there....And these last 3 games have been tough ones agasinst the best....And still he did his job and helped the Rangers get 5 points..That being said..if Laviolette is not gonna give him more than 6-7 minutes against the likes of Utah, CBJ, Montreal, Ott and Philly over the next 5 games then, yeah, the Rangers need to go out and get somebody else or jut play Vesey..

re: TOEWS, well shit. Let's ink him and Phil KESSEL and see where it takes us. Seriously though. Time for a rhetorical question...no pun intended...Why the hell would either TOEWS or the Rangers want to pair together? If your insurance policy for Fil CHYTIL is a guy who has self-admittedly struggled...BAD...with long-COVID and has not played in the NHL for nearly two seasons...um...well...Let's just say that's not the smartest game plan. But alas, our GM ain't the smartest guy...

Whoaboy..."My super scout Jess Rubenstein..." Yeah, if that's your super scout, it's time to change your diaper, Stan.

Hospo/TD: I'm with both of you. Nobody should be "blamed" for last night's loss. It was a solid road effort against a very good team. Despite the loss, I was as happy as a pig in shit given the slop we had to endure in December. I'm actually enjoying the games again. I hope it continues.

We could use the center depth, but where do we put him? ...."The Rangers Just Might Take A Gamble On Jonathan Toews".... https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/new-york-rangers/latest-news/the-rangers-just-might-take-a-gamble-on-jonathan-toews

Also, since I've made quite the practice of lambasting LAVIOLETTE lately...I will say he took the EXACT approach that he needed to take to even up that game...instead of doing what BEDNAR did, which is match his best players up against the Rangers' best players...he religiously rolled four and three...he made BEDNAR overskate his top players. And he used his deeper bench to even the odds up against a team with a clear top-end talent advantage...team is a sum total of the parts you put out. LAVIOLETTE skated all of his parts. BEDNAR didn't, and he was less than two minutes away from getting a loss handed to him...I hope this fucker has learned the lesson at this point...that no matter WHO your opponent is, you need four lines and three pairings...and you need to skate them all. When you do that and your opponent doesn't? The advantage is ALWAYS yours.

JFC31 - I wouldn't put that loss on anyone. In fact, if it were my team? I'd say man, you fuckers played the way you should be playing every game and sometimes, the bounces just don't go your way. That was it for me. On the GTG? I mean there were five or six times when the Rangers ALMOST clear the puck...they were literally doin everything right...it just sailed a bit too far in one direction or the other. I generally don't refer to losses as good, but that was a good loss. They fought as hard as they could against an opponent with an offense that is just ridiculously potent...and they almost shut it down. No RAGRETS.

Thoughts on the game: The initial one? MOTHER FUCKER. Either lose or don't boys! But seriously, they played VERY well. Everyone, for the most part. Some played better than others, but there was a TEAM commitment to win that game yesterday. Yeah, they fell short. But if you're takeway is that they played bad...for ANY part of that game? Get glasses. Third consecutive game where they actually looked like they knew what they were doing...I'm also not going to get on LAVIOLETTE on this one. Sticking with my opening theme of do or do not, my two minor beefs with him are with the REMPE and VAAKAINANEN ice time. Either play them or don't. If you don't trust them? Then get VESEY or BRODZINSKI and JONES back in...I get what folks say about 'teams taking notice' when REMPE is on the ice and don't disagree...but for six fucking minutes? Six minutes of taking notice?!? Who gives a fuck! That leaves 54 minutes when they're not...I didn't see any part of his game last night that suggested REMPE should be limited to fewer minutes than anyone else. VAAK? Well...I wouldn't say the same thing definitively...But JONES is STILL the better player and if you're skating him that sparingly, then give JONES the ice. Full stop, not excuses...Now, I would say pretty authoritatively that Adam EDSTROM has earned himself more ice and a look in the top nine. A dude that size, with speed who is physical AND has hands? He's what I would want REMPE to be, only he's that player NOW...KALIYEV, look, I kind of knew folks would start souring on him immediately...but patience. He is not a player that will 'wow' with big hits, dangles, speed and whatnot. What he WILL dazzle with is his shot. It's fantastic and definitely high-end...SHESTERKIN seems to be his old self again and that's great news if you want to make the playoffs...but horrible news if you wanted to draft James HAGENS...One thing I noticed last night that I didn't in the first four months? SHOT BLOCKING. The Rangers...pretty much all of them...were jumping on the grenades the Avalanche were lobbing. And doing it in a way to stay in position. This is a very welcome change...Sam CARRICK...yeah, I was among the fans that figured him a waste...BONINOLD 2.0. But man, he's been a very solid addition and I'm glad they have him for another year...I'm exceptionally glad that he's now getting used to pin down the PK...the cynic in me really wonders the brain pattern that would lead a coach to NOT used this guy in that capacity and instead overskate your top line centers...but whatever...Anywho, that was about as exciting as the Rangers have been this season playing a VERY difficult team. I can't fault the outcome even if it wasn't the one I wanted.

I’d did not watch the 3rd period or OT last night but I gotta put most of the blame on the tying goal not on Lindy but on Shesty…he needed to PacMan that shit and he let it dribble through him, right to Lehkonen. You could see that Shesty felt the same way right after the puck went in the net, I am happy with the way the Rangers performed overall but was not happy with Line 1 or Line 3 offensively. But, I think they are all rowing in the same direction now and I’m proud of them for extracting their collective heads from their collective asses and are giving us good hockey to watch. I think they have a good chance to make the POs but Drury should not be a classic buyer at the deadline. It’s gotta be HOCKEY TRADES only, not “try to win the Cup” trades because I can’t see that happening,,,if it does, it wouldn’t be because of who they acquired anyway…it would be getting a very hot Shesty combined with an over worldly infusion of unity and confidence.

And the big question is..Move Forward to What? Just play out the string as is and make changes to the core in the off season? Change the core now (i.e., Miller, ZBAD, etc..),? buy and get better and compete this season with the Core?? All in Drury's hands, and yes, that is scary........For now, I say play a good month with what you have (although I would also acquire a D-man to replace the sub standard Vakaninen (and recoup some of Troubs fear factor) since Jones is Big COuntry's new Red headed step son......Still think there are issues with the 2nd and 3rd lines....Cuylle is regressing, losing confidence and not hitting as much (just skates all over the place) playing with ZBAD (who is playing better) and SMith..The line doesn't suck but it's no great shakes either...Kreider-Chytl-AK34, to me, is just a hodge podge mish mash with zero identity...My solution...Keep the 1st (hope panarina plays better) and 4th lines as is (they were good..again).. Vesey-Chytl-Cuylle and Kreider-ZBAD-Smith....AK34/Brodz as subs..I'll be honest, the loss of the size and ability of KAKKAO and especially the way he played with Cuylle and CHytl was a big loss for the now and future and needs to be replaced if the rangers are ever serious about a Cup

Some of you blame Igor for the loss, and I admit he wasn't stellar, however, the main reason they lost was their so-called best players failed time and time again to bury the fucking puck on glorious chances, in fact, many times the missed the net completely. It should have been at the very least a 5-3 or 6-3 win.

Well, it seems like every game I go to in Denver one team is leading until the waning parts of the 3rd and then it goes into Overtime. Always entertaining, but stressful as hell. First off, the Mile-High Blueshirts is our local group of Ranger fans that turned out in force. The crowd was definitely filled with Ranger fans. A guy I was sitting near felt it wasn't as many as the year before, but the "Let's Go Rangers" chants were definitely louder and more organized than the home team. It was blast. I am sure you guys could hear us on TV. We got a group picture in one of the entrances on the club Level after Period 2 and we were doing the "Let's Go Rangers" chants. Avs fans were very sour, but we had a blast. On to the game: The first shift was a Miller Turnover and I thought we were going to be shellacked. But as usual, the Rangers withstood the early speed and calmed things down. 1st period we looked pretty solid. I thought REMPE was used well and had some excellent moments where he worked dilligently to et the puck out of the zone. I think he is still a bit neutered in the hitting department, but he the thing is, the other team is aware when he is on the ice. I guess that is the only good thing about his suspensions, even if they know he isn't hitting as much, they know he could cause some damage at any moment. So a mental advantage for sure. EDSTROM was really noticeable. He played great. What more can you say about Sam CARRICK. The guy is a great 4th line center and he does a little of everything. I think it was a shrewd signing that generally received with a "meh" when it happened, but I think his value (especially at his cap hit) is phenomenal. That line did well. 3rd line was interesting. I think CHYTIL showed flashes, but was a little inconsistent. KREIDER loked like he had been out for a while but got better as the game went on. KALIYEV also started out sluggish, but I did like his game a little more towards the end as he got shots on goal and seemed to go to the net. The BREAD-TROCH-LAFF line was off. They had a few good moments, but I'm not sure what Laff was doing at times, and Panarin was just a mess with the puck. that said, I didn't get the impression that they were lazy with their assignments like they were during the great malaise of late 2024. The CUYLLE-ZIB-SMITH line also had some good moments. Z seems much more confident and while I wish he could bury a few more of his chances, he is also a different player than he was at the beginning of the year. His decision making in OT were no great shakes. But again, the effort was their and I think he is going to get better. MILLER and BORGEN- Miller settled down after the chaotic first shift (I really wouldn't start that guy- he never seems ready on the first shift). FOX was not as good as the last two games, but not terrible. LINDGREN is also playing better but I think he made a pretty big mistake on the goal against he was on for. SCHNEIDER-FINNISH GUY who's name I can't spell- They were terrible on the 1st goal but I think Schneider's decison making has been suspect for a short stretch here. Again, still much better than before but they were our weakest pair. SHESTY- Well, he made some great saves, some dramatic saves and seemed to be in control. But the last two goals are ones he should have had.

STEVIE - I don't pay much attention to coach speak and press conferences..Rangers made a big mistake and paid for it...they diidn't make too many more the rest of the game Until the last OT shift

Hospo at 453 of the first period is when Colorado scored, hump and rump even showed the replay of 3 Nyr forwards up at the blue line. Guess lardass didn’t know that they exposed the mistake on TV .

I think the Big take away from the last 4 games against the best in the NHL (OTL vs Dallas, OTW vs NJ, W vs Vegas and OTL vs COL) is that the Rangers head is on straight, there is no disconnect between Coach and players, and their heart, effort and compete level is back to being very strong...So, no matter the reason for it's long endurance, the malaise/disease seems to be gone......Now, that doesn't mean they are ready to compete for a cup (they are not) or they don't have holes, issues or weaknesses (they do)..but it sure is easier to try and move forward...

STEVIE - No problem with Laviolettes comments on the 58 minutes of good hockey, since i was making the same point last night! Yeah, COL blitzed them at the start, but realy good teams do that...and good teams find a way to answer..I liked what I saw

Overall a strong effort last night. The highest paid goalie in league history let them down on the tying and winning goals. He gave up a rebound form his catching glove on the tying goal and allowed a misfire to slide under him for the GWG. Drury bid against himself to pay Igor and they will pay for it for the next 8 years. He was outplayed by someone making half what he will make during his new contract. Get used to that happening frequently. And the structure of his contract makes him unmovable.

4th line is out there getting legit chances and scoring goals with Edstrom-Carrick-Rempe. And folks want to break that line up. Incredible stuff folks. Carrick in on the PK and Edstrom get double shifted at times just after a PP or PK (Cuylle did last night as well) Rempe didn’t. Also they double shifted other guys with the 4th line to try to catch the AVS in a matchup and Rempe missed 1 or 2 shifts last night. Rempe was fine. He wasn’t hidden away or anything. If it was Berard or Vesey or whoever the same thing would have happened at 5v5. I think sometimes there is too much taken from minor things.

Looking up is actually what folks do when trying to recall a memory. It’s the look of recall. Looking down with just the eyes is when you are making something up. It’s where most folks eyes go when they are using the portion of their brain associated with imagination. Most eyes go up when using the part of the brain associated with memory. The head going down has more to do with the emotions from shame or sadness. A chin up and out is associated with pride and happiness. I didn’t see any signs of dishonesty in this clip. And yes I am good at this stuff it is literally part of my job. And I’m pretty damn good at my job.

Watch his eyes. …. The look down is the lying part. Up is the spin of making things up….https://youtu.be/F7kc4k30Dec?si=WAmNR0i58yjePTnY

What game was lardass watching? What happened on the first goal genius? You are generous with how you count minutes….. “They competed and did everything we wanted to do for 58 minutes,” head coach Peter Laviolette said of his team. “It’s really difficult walking away and not getting that extra point. Tie it up and even in overtime, looks and chances to win the game, we didn’t get it done. So that’s the frustrating part about it is to play so well for the 58 and then not to capitalize. ”

Andrei - I wasn't talking bout ZBAD and inujries right now but in the past...Kreider is or was for sure playing through back problems...but looked a little better/stromnger tonight...ANyways, when Pnarina's play is questioned you are quick with the "Maybe it requires a surgery, who knows what players are going through"..but never when you were destroying Kreider and ZBAD..Just looking for consistency, that's all....I just go by their play..Panarina's is not very good right now, ZBAD on he way up, hopefully joined by Kreider after a few games and Your boy also

Hospo, not at all. I don't think that ZShit is playing thought the injury. To me it's and have being mental problem with him. Kreider is a different story all together. He is someone that goes MIA for weeks whether there is an injury or not. That's said, I have not being on Kreider this season as much I have being on ZShit, and deservedly so. Just like I have being someone light on Fox, despite his shortcomings this season. Clearly, Fox is also not 100%. Again, I'm not, nor will I ever make excuses for Panerin or any other player. Every player deserves criticism when they stink and all players have up and down times during long seasons.

PJ - Good point..At least 100% effort is there..I still think they can win the next 5

Hospo…A line of Chytil, Cuylle and Vesey would be interesting….Good defensive wingers and speed in the middle…Would like to see it…

ANdrei - So, when Panarina struggles, he is playing through an injury???..but when ZBAD or Kreider struggle you never give that considertion even when it was the case? Doesn't sound fair.......The playing through injuries excuse is for the off season

I think everyone’s frustration is had we played like this all season we would be in great shape… Now we are chasing it and have little room for error…

Panarin played 23:26, I doubt he is injured. Too bad Z shot right in the goalie's glove on the break-a-way. Ugly fucker, needs a hair cut, lol!

Honesetly , I think ZBAD at least has his confidence back..playing like the old ZBAD ( good with some bad).and Kredier looked better as the game went long,,.so why not put KREDER back with ZBAD nd SMith..Move Cuylle down with CHYTL and slot the faster and more physical Vesey in for AK34 ..JMWO....Oh, and giv e JONES a game, OK....???

Thought the coaches managed the Rangers ice time and shifts in Colorado real well until the end..No problem with Remps ice time agasint the AVes..I think Laviolette is seeing the positives of that line nd hopefully they (or he) see more ice time the next 4-5 more reasonable games...

MC, so you sit Panerin and play Feeses instead on the 1st line? Like this a reality in NHL, sitting out players who are not 100%. Maybe it requires a surgery, who knows what players are going through? Fox is not 100%. So sit him down as well? Every team has players that nursing some kind of injury. It just not realistic, like at all…

PJ - Me too..Remps was fine..Gotta realize..his first 3 games back were agasint 3 of the best teams in the NHL hard not to have a few hiccups.....From here on in games get more physical...Let Berrd work on his defense in the AHL..Seasoon goes off the rails..call him back up for full time minutes..

I thought Rempe's last two games were very good, but it hasn't helped him get more ice time.

PJ, 100%. Said the same thing. Rempe was very effective tonight. Whole 4th line was the best line all night, offensively and defensively.

Yeah, Rempe played 3 less minutes than Edstrom. If the coach still has no faith in him, send him down.

Just so we are on the same page. If 30 days ago I would have said that Rangers outplayed Avs on a round, had an excellent defensive game, a complete team effort and got a point out of it and played a very entertaining game, who would have not signed up for that?

MC, I did not say that Panerin had a good game. I said he gave all he had. He is clearly playing through something as he tries not to shoot. His skating also suffers due to what ever he is going through. Not making any excuses, just describing what I see.

I thought we were playing the 6 vs 5 really well…Igor should have been able to hold that shot…I mean the first three AVS PP’s they had ZERO shots…Think about that….

Igor fumbled the tying goal and effed up on the winner, pretty unusual. Of course Lindgren could have played Lekkonen instead of just standing there,

Who kept giving the puck away behind their own net late in the OT? Maddening, they deserved better tonight, once again they look like the worst team 6 on 5.

Yeah, Igor should've had that game winner, but he's played brilliantly, I can't really complain too much.

Really good game but why are we paying Igor ??? He isn't the best out there but he is in the top 5 ...take the point....AVS injured still ridiculously dangerous we are retooling on the fly.

Win Thursday and we had a very good road trip…Frustrating as hell but they played well tonight…Rangers didn’t count on Igor to win the game…They outplayed the AVS…

Disagree, thought Panerin gave everything he had. Whole team did. AVS are no joke and game was on a road. Can’t blame anyone for the loss.

Great effort for 58 mins..Then they still had the chance to win in OT with the PP and blew it..Then the kahunas gave the game away on the last shift,,but they looked tired as hell,,Gotta move forwrd thinking bout the first 58 mins

Fuck. Missed too many damn glorious chances. Panarin and Z-Shit on the 3 on 3 at the end...bad choice.

That PP, we chose 2 guys that have been missing a lot tonight and one guy that's stone cold. Make sense... We deserved better... Oh well, Thursday's another game.

PAN & LAF were fucking terrible in this game. Wasted a good team effort otherwise.

This is like the 4th or 5th time in the last 5 years the game has gone into OT here in Denver

5th straight to OT with the AVS…what do they get together before the game and shake on getting to OT or something?

Don’t they know I have to get up for work in the AM? Seriously, LINDGREN your stick should be on the player not up in the air. Not a great goal tho.

All 4 lines playing well. Good to see 4th line getting consistent playing time. Welll deserved. Rempe makes difference when he plays a smart game.

Definitely will give AK some time but he desperately needs that Brian Boyle skating coach.

Yall are crazy for being so hard on a player not only new to the team playing in just his third game THIRD! With the Rangers and that means it’s his 8th game overall this season after his 5 game conditioning sting in the AHL. And he had a collar bone fracture. You can’t do much in the way of fitness, especially early on with that sort of injury since any body movement can slow healing. He probably lost 2 months of fitness time other than low level stuff. Give him at least a couple weeks and more than 2 and a half games before you make a determination about the guy.

Kaliev looking like he did in LA. Which landed him in the WHL. Seems to stand around a lot. Of course, it is his second game all year so maybe he deserves a break a bit.

Rangers started slow but have played very well…Just wish they would have converted more of their chances…Tro line would have put at least 2 in that period last year….

Can we wsitch Vesey or Brodz for the plodding AK34 between periods? Not sure who is bringing less at at ES , AK34 or Panrina?..That said, as team, nother good period agaisnt another good team.....1 more...It's gonna be a toughie!

Something tells me that Kaliev kid is not going to staying with the Rangers permanently.

Awesome PK..Rangers missing sosme glorious chnces..Let's bury one on the PP...Kreider???

This is a good game. Rangers spending too much time in their own zone, but they are playing well..

Wow, Kaliyev looks like he has lead weights in his skates….what a plodder he is!

Andrei - WHy be an Ass? Carrick has been great lately, but let's see what he does in the POs? And one can like both players

CNP - For whatever reason, Edstom picked up his game big tiem baout 5 games..Flashing everything....OTOH, everybody plays better when Rempe the Rabbits foot is in the lineup!

Looks like Rangers possibly have a decent 4th line, no? OrcRangess should have kept everyone’s favorite Goodrow?

Glad the 4th line got stuck out there! :)...Great play by Carrick..GAIN..Greta hands by Edstrom ..AGAIN..!!

Listening to the AVS broadcast it appeared the announcer said that was a cockblocker save by WELLWOOD.

I would first find out what Panarin wanted on his next deal. If it's much shorter term for a lot less money, I'd consider it.

I am torn between the RANGERS making the playoffs and the Rangers ditching PAN to the LAK for some of their talent. The team will miss his skill but his lackadaisical play rubs off and players defer to him too much.

I though KREIDER looked better by the end of the period. Panarin looked worse. We need to come out big in the 2nd.

Very good last 10 minutes..Rangers took the punches and countered big time..Hard to keep McKinnion under wraps though

Disagree on Laff being moved back to LW…He is fine at RW and that line will get going again…

That was a damn good period against a solid western team. They certainly have a certain element to their game that was missing before

RF4l- Great point! Lafrenierre needs to be moved back to LW and put on PP1 immediately... Kreider has been an great NYR but its time to let allow the next generation to succeed... CK19 needs to be traded to a team of his choice, but make mistake, he needs to go.. Perrault and Othmann are next up and reality is, both are LWs.

After getting dominated early, Rangers have settled down after that Carrick shorty…

BLACKWOOD is playing much better than his NJD days. This game should be 3-1 at least Rangers

I have always been critical of Panarin over-handling the puck on the PP. I can't stand it.

DRURY- GM Chris Drury has not been perfect, but overall I believe in his skill and the direction he has tried to take the NYRs... He inherited so many problems and was handcuffed by salary cap, NMCs/contracts, and some unforgiveable trades/draft picks by Gorton.. We can debate all day long about Buchnevich, Trouba, Nemeth, Copp but I am taking the optimistic view the NYRs are in great shape if Drury can offload Panarin and Kreider and retool the NYRs around Trocheck, Schneider, Cuylle and players that play hard every night on both ends of the rink

You know Lardiolette is dying to find a reason to swap Kreider with Laf. It's inevitability

Schneidw. 100% agree. But careful you're gonna ignite the trolls who love all things Rangers

Carrick getting hot is only helping delay the inevitable. Perpetual mediocrity at its finest. These are your NYR’s. Enjoy

RF4l- Or step aside! I am so done w Panarin... his primadonna style of hockey has no place w NYRs 2025

CO Mark: Thanks for checking in to RFC while at the game in Denver... AVS are flying out there, enjoy the hockey from a purist standpoint... NYRs are outmatched and its the usual suspects Panarin & Kreider that are floating out there like playing defense is somebody elses concern...Drury needs to finish the bloodletting and find a way to offload Panarin and Kreider and their combined $20M/yr in salary to bring in tenacious players like Trochech, Schneider, Cuylle... Drury has alot to work with if he can offload those 2 liabilities...

Panarina and Kreider really weak so far..And God do i hate having to watch Cuylle on the same shifts as ZBAD and Smith!

What a lazy stupid penalty by Kreider..You can tell he wants no business playing with AK34...Man up buddy

Rangers miss the net an amazing number of times….every god damned game. At least hit the fucking goalie!

Rangers are reacting poorly to A Alan he quickness & speed….they are flustered, rushing everything….

Replay shows Kreider turn his back on the play and just drift aimlessly…Geezus!

KREIDER forgot that hockey involves defense as well- not sure what he was doing other than puck staring. This is the wrong team to trade chances with.

Was just gonna saay..both teams getting mega chances...and that scares me...and Boom! Rangers can't ply that way agisnt COL

After the pass to Chytil, Kreider just watched! If he had gone to the net, he would have had an empty net!

Maybe it was not the best idea to have both of the guys that have missed a bunch of time on the same line together on their 1st game back?

This matchup with Colorado tonight has me concerned because this team has speed as well as skill. Against the Stars & Knights, the Rangers were QUICKER to the puck by far. I don’t know if that will happen vs. the Avalanche. Yes, the Devils have team speed but they were arrogant against the Rangers, led by one of the most arrogant players in the NHL…Jack Hughes. If ara gets win this game, they have something real going on…

Tdchi c'mon now Drury is getting valuable on the job training bahahahahahahaahah

NYR fans on Kaapo Kakko in 2025 after the trade: "He's doing so well for his new team, we should've played him more in the top six when he was here" .... NYR fans on Kaapo Kakko before we traded him: "He's not getting it done in the top six, put the kid line back together." .... I shit you not.

Stevie... In fairness: I think SMITH has been a pretty good fit. He seemed to have good chemistry with them during the pre-season and the start of the season, but then Kreider's back troubles cropped up and the team went to shit.... With the team's resurgence, he seems to be doing pretty well... So let's give him an incomplete for now :)

Dd drury took the bromance and as his first move he traded away their right wing, and has been trying to find one that comes close to butchie. So far he has not. They probably would have been a great first line, and could have contributed more in the playoffs. But DD knows best hypothetically.

Hopefully keep it going tonight with a win…Laff with two goals and Fox gets one as well.. LGR!

Opposite of the throwing away of assets, Drury and the Rangers keep creating unmovable log rams at multiple positions with these dump big contracts with NTC/NMC. Just stupid. Well they don’t trust or play their youth anyway. Hey! Let’s Go Rangers. Yippee

TD: You know I've been bitching about Drury's ridiculous and inexplicable practice of tossing away draft picks like he agrees with Andrei about their value since before the Copp trade, but to see that sordid recital makes me both angry and dejected. It's indefensible and reeks of incompetence. The pathetic return for KK is more of the same and gives me very little hope that should the Rangers decide to trade off the likes of Lindgren, Smith, Borgen and even Kreider the return will anything more than middling. These are dark days AFAIC.

TDCHI - Preach on brother..been saying all that for a long time considering the total sum of Drury's moves and not just the NHL team he has put togehter the last few years...but the oirgnaizational depth holes and lack of depth he has been responsible for........................As for the BROMANCE brothers, I don't think the problem is neccessarily playing them together, the problem is playing them together TOO MUCH...Play them as a 2-way line that is not your first choice and, sometimes, even 2nd choice offensively at ES (That is all on Laviolette)..Let them find their mojo back on the PP and resume being, as a pai8rr, a force on special teams....I do not think we have seen the last of the Bromancers this year

Hospo - Yeah, EMBERSON was an opportunity needlessly lost. Ironically...because they kept JONES, who wasn't waiver eligible. Any garden variety idiot could've told you a kid like that wasn't going to last on the waiver wire...self-inflicted injuries. They're ones that DRURY is most prone to making...I mean, GM'ing isn't an exact science...but some of the shit...It's just like dude. You just keep digging the hole deeper...the fiasco with EMBERSON is just a great example...1. Sign Patrik NEMETH to a stupid, overpriced and what I can only hope was a sight-unseen contract to mentor LUNDKVIST, who had no future with the team. Step 2. Dump NEMETH's contract at the ludicrous cost of two second rounders, but remarkably manage to get a good prospect thrown in. Step 3. Trade LUNDKVIST two months later, to at least recoup the first rounder you used to draft him AND a fourth rounder. Step 4. Trade said first rounder for a pair of pending free agents the team has ZERO hope of signing. Step 5. Lose EMBERSON for nothing trying to sneak him through waivers, when the seventh defenseman who made the team wasn't waiver eligible...and didn't play worth shit...and was demoted less than a month later. Step 6. Can you believe there are SIX FUCKING STEPS?!? Trade fourth rounder AND a second rounder for...WENNBERG...another pending UFA you have no hope of ever signing...So summing up? The Rangers lost two second rounders, EMBERSON, LUNDKVIST, a first rounder, and a fourth rounder and have nothing to show for any of it. Zero. Zippo.

mf spot on. The Bromance Brothers have been one of the big problems. Especially at even strength. The need to break up the band goes back well over a year now.

Limbo: Yes that's an interesting revisit/rewrite but I see no reason just because those 2 are centres to expect that the Rangers wouldn't have subjected them to same stupid development retardment treatment KK and Laf were subjected to. After all, Z and Strome were there and with the signing of Panarin the rebuild got accelerated meaning Drury likely would have signed Trocheck to replace Strome anyways. Plus with Chytil around those 2 might have been treated worse. That said, perhaps they'd have spent some time in Hartford? Mind you Jones did and he's wasting away in the pressbox.

NYStranger - RICHTER has got his own deal and really isn't involved in hockey period. Dude got a degree from Yale and is big into environmentalism. He comes around for the Rangers when they need him for ceremonies...LEETCH? That's a different story. He came back for a while, but I think the firing of QUINN, who he knew through Avon, and DAVIDSON, who he obviously knew well, rankled him. But he also was never really that visible with the organization anyway. Had a very amorphous job...I know GRAVES is still big with the team. Does TONS of outreach. MESSIER sort of drops in whenever he can get his mug on television, but that's about it...Interesting, I was looking at the alumni game roster and there weren't many guys from the cup era. I mean, some of them are in their mid- to late 50s now, so there's that...but who knows. Nothing under DRURY would surprise me.

For the first time in many a year I stopped reading or visiting this Wall after from the 1/4 mark of this season until recently. It was brought on by our GM bringing in a wrecking ball of a public relations disaster. In hindsight, I think he finally has the attention of the players and maybe this ship is finally turning.... Is BORGEN a keeper? Will MANCINI make the Roster? Both are RHSD, so we may wind up with 4 RHS & 2 LHSD, not so terrible. Looks like LINDGREN is out of here. We still need a Center. Do we allow PERREAULT to skip the AHL right to the big club? We could use another RHS Wing for the top 9, and for heaven's sake, if we're not moving ZBAD or Kreider, keep them on different lines at Even Strength!" That is one of the biggest oversites Drury made. Split those 2 at E/S and we never needed to trade for SMITH, and all of a sudden our home picked Kaapo KaKKo is in a better position to succeed. Big costly snafu IMO.

MF - So true! And why I can't even give up on a season like this to instead build for a Cup 4 years down the road!

None of that means I don't think DRURY has done a horrible job the last 4 year in builing an NHL Cup winner and organizational hole (D and C)..I do and have been a broken record about it but they haven't missed on the devleopment and use of all young players..

MF - I am not totally disagreeing with that..... but you can't hit on every D-man..HAJAK is a mountain out of a mole hill..Guy Just didn't/doesn't have it...Lundkvist marginal and he was traded for a decent return....but EMBERSON was let go for nothing (DRURY) and I don't agree with the treatment of Jones this year at all (LAVIOLETTE), especially given the alternative..

Zbad is a damn good hockey player. The issue was and is that he and Kreider should have been split up 2-3 seasons ago and management should have recognized it. Gus here on the wall have been calling for it, (I was late to that game) but IIRC, "Andrei" was one of the first. Couple that with an 'inadequate' additional Center for the 2nd/3rd line and we have the, (drum roll please) perennial 'hole in the doughnut.'

Note, this is not an excuse for poor decisions….but, just to piggy back on HOSPO - as happy as I was that we finally got a couple breaks and won 2 lotteries, it is so Rangery that both overwhelmingly presumptive picks were wingers. Especially because we were so awash with wings and would be for years. Then, the dipshit traded BUCH because he thought ONE of them, including awful KRAVTSOV, would make the jump. Imagine a world where we lose those lotteries and take the obvious C picks - LUNDELL and COZENS. Maybe then we keep either or both of BUCH and FAST. Maybe we don’t give ZBAD an insane NMC. It’s an interesting hypothetical. One thing we know for sure, the results of the actual events, while pretty great for the reg season, just didn’t cut the mustard in the playoffs. I would say that the team and core the past few years had basic and systemic issues in its composition. It’s a shame that the one thing the NYR have NEVER had, in spades,…LUCK…was the determinate factor. In a way, I would MUCH prefer a logical, thought out, and executed, plan. But, then again, maybe that’s just naïveté. Maybe we need MORE kicks at the top end can. The mix and talent have got be right eventually, right. Right? What’s that about infinite time, a typewriter, a monkey, and Shakespeare. For good or bad, our monkey won’t have that sort of opportunity…

Hospo: I'll play, "Devil's Devil's advocate: This org doesn't know when to sell or take a profit. Look how they waste potential 'trade equity.' They're doing it now with Zack Jones, they did it with Libor Hájek. This organization should know within year of the kids participation in Hartford (not in the lower leagues, or college levels) whether or not the kid will make it to the NHL level and be a contribution. That's a time we have the inside scoop and the perceived trade value is on an uptrend. "That's how you milk a chicken!" Bet you didn't know you can milk a chicken!" :-) "Where's Legz?"

RF/NCRanger: IMO (and I know that I'm preaching to the choir) a major contributing factor leading up to the failure of the coaching staff not putting these kids in a position to get adequate minutes, is by not insisting that the kids play a minimum of 1 full season in Hartford. There is no better way to get the inside handle on the kid's strengths and weaknesses than to observe them at that level, masked from the rest of the league.

Just as a Devil's Advocate, considering recent times, they have done fine on the defensive side ---- IGOR, SCHNEIDER, MILLER, FOX, LINDGREN....Guys like Jones/Lundkvist were/are fringe players..They hav done OK with "non blue chip" forwards such as Cuylle, Edstrom, Remps..maye a few other..but the big struggle has been the top end forwards..and you just have to look at the old school coache of the last 4 years in Gallant and Laviolette (who seems to have leanred his lesson a little--We'll see)

This franchise and current ownership/management do a masterful job of putting our blue chip prospects in a position to fail. It almost seem purposeful and is most definitely negligent in nature. It almost doesn’t make sense to get a blue chip young C which is so so so desperately needed, much more so than a reach at 8th seed and a complete blowout against a powerhouse 1 seed. Is our management smart enough to recognize this?? I highly highly doubt it. Why? Because the snake CD is tasked with getting IN the playoffs and earning that playoff gate for dumbass Jimmy Boy. And round and round we go. They strive for perpetual mediocrity. And the one time they actually tried it. They draft two players at 1/2 that they jerked around and never put them in a position to succeed. Absolutely insane. Just look at KK’s comments and how he was used under a variety of coaching/management regimes to see how fucked up the culture towards young developing players is here

OH and Colorado as always a tough game...but they are undermanned...so Rangers have a chance..likely a loss..but..IFFFFF the Rangers win tonight .The Hospodamus Cracked Crystal Ball says the Rangers, just like the Wings did with a new start, will win 8 straight going back to NJ!!!

"Same as it ever was, Zbad & Kreider should not be on the same line at even strength." Special teams, ok, "ES" no bueno.

RF4L - Well, I guess that means he's out then? :)...Yeah, I knew he was in Hartford...I think he comes back full time only if the Rangers punt on the season and/or a bunch of injuries

Good to have Kreids and CHytl back in the line-up and Brodz, Berard, Vesey out...Hopefully AK34 and Vaakanien will follow.......Not a fan of CUYLEE on a line with ZBAD and SMITH..but..he does ALL the hard work for both of them and provides a lot of spcae for them to work and is helping ZBAD find his confidence...Hope it's not long term....Kreids-Chytkl-AK34 seems like a mess to me but, hey, let's see how it goes...I wouldn't have been surprised if Remps sat against COL, but good for Laviolette if he plays....REMPS-Carrick-Edstrom could be a phsyically beastly line

I also find it interesting that Leetch/Richter or some of those other guys of that era have very little to do with the organization. Speaks very loudly to me about ownership.

DREW those were the teams that got me into the Rangers! The beginning of the Leetch/Richter era. Loved those teams.

NYStranger and E great posts. NYStranger, your post at 8:56 am EST is interesting. I know times have changed and the way we consume sports has changed. I found some YouTube videos of old VHS releases of the Rangers from 88-89, 89-90 and 90-91. This may have been when Gulf & Western or Paramount owned the Rangers. Anyway, those teams that always seemed to be on the cusp yet fell short. Besides obviously Leetch and Richter, I remember loving those teams of Jan Erixon, Mark Janssens, Troy Mallette, Kris King. Darren Turcotte was exciting. I guess my point was until Messier arrived, we loved those teams. Brian Mullen is also someone I forgot to mention. I am sure you guys can add the names. Put a team on the ice that will work hard and the fans will appreciate it. With the cap and difficulty in keeping a team together, the closest team I could think of may have been that 2005-06 team off the work stoppage. Maybe because of the low-expectations coming in? (and Jagr was on that team). This isn't a new thought but Dolan and the Ranger ownership are so out of touch with this fan base. I was hoping some of that would come back when John Davidson came back. Remember when Tortorella rightfully called the Penguins the most arrogant organization when Stepan was cheap shot? Well it seems as if our front office and ownership can share that criticism.

and that's why teams go to the UFA wire to fill in top 3 talent. Take a look at the NYR's: they trade away draft picks like they're candy on Halloween. They often wind up on the short side of a trade instead of the trade being amicable for both sides, most recently: Kaapo KaKKo. Now one obvious state of affairs (same as it ever was) is to gauge when PEARRAULT will be ready to join the big club, and any other kids in the feeder systems, and complete the roster with trades and the UFA wire. This club isn't drafting the next OV, Crosby, McDavid, in our lifetime, so, you got to buy one via trade or free agency..... Hey Larry, "how about providing us with Drury's email address?" What an effin mess, reminds me of a stretch during the 1980's when this team just wasn't worth watching.

schneidw: The Rangers did draft high-end talent (KK and Laf) - they just didn't give them the opportunities FLA gave Barkov and the Aves gave MacK and Makar. Precisely the thing your previous post alluded to. KK has 2 goals and 5 assists in his last 7 games. This is the start of what he's going to do now that he's getting top line and PP minutes. That should have happened in New York...

schneidw: Yep, I hear you and agree. That's a very interesting article you posted. These 2 quotes really stand out and highlight what so many of us have been complaining about with the dumbass Rangers, especially after their rebuild brought in skilled young players like KK and Laf: “It was kind of a hard start,” Kakko said. “But after the break, I’ve been feeling pretty good, been playing a little more. There’s going to be some bad shifts, but you keep getting on the ice all the time, keep getting opportunities, getting chances.” “Over here, I feel there’s a good chance for me,” Kakko said. “I mean, I can already say, like, confidence is way better than it’s been for a long time. Even the coaches said, like, ‘You’re going to make mistakes sometimes, but keep trying to make plays. If you make the mistake, it’s going to happen. Somebody else is going to help you out. Just try to be yourself and make plays.’ And I feel that’s what I’m doing right now, and that’s all about the confidence.”

E- Great post, agree! Clearly elite talent and quality depth are not mutually exclusive components of building a roster for a Stanley Cup win.. the harsh reality for NYRs is they once again failed to draft elite talent at the top of the draft unlike Florida (Barkov), COL (Mackinnon, Makar), etc... so painful.

E: Yes very true but to compensate when those top guys dip, you need your lesser lights to step up from time to time, too. THe Rangers problem last year and 2 years before that was the combination of the 2. I see nothing on this current roster to suggest that those 2 problems have been alleviated.

Kakko- The burn for me as a lifelong NYR fan after reading the NHL.com article on Kakko is its the same freaking story... Kakko was terribly frustrating to watch as a player that oozes talent but never seemed to use it to his advantage.. but it has been clear the NYR locker room is dysfunctional and broken and it is affecting the mindset of the younger players... Just watching Gallant + Laviellette rolling out the same 5 veterans on the powerplay and important minutes and not rewarding the younger players with quality minutes is enough to make me want to become an Devils/Islanders/Flyers fan.. anything but this horrible crap.. This season, the only NYR line that produced quality minutes was Cuyulle-Chytil-Kakko, so of course the NYRs blow it up... The trading of McDonough-Miller and signing of Panarin was the beginning of the end...

NYR Prospect Track Record REPRISE--> https://www.nhl.com/news/kaapo-kakko-producing-for-seattle-kraken-after-trade

I guess for me coaching and depth are great, but let’s not kid ourselves: you’re not winning a Cup without elite talent. Depth matters and a solid 3rd and 4th line are important, but it’s still a skill driven league. if your top guys can’t hang? Forget it. Look at Tampa Bay do they win anything without Kucherov and Point going off? Same with Colorado when MacKinnon and Makar carried that team when it mattered most. Depth scoring is cool, but let’s be honest, it’s the stars who make it happen. And for everyone who says, “Oh, the right coach can fix it!” I’m not on board. A factor? Sure. But Coaches can only do so much. If a player’s a turnover machine or just can’t handle the pressure, no coach is turning that into a Cup run. Some players are just a liability, no matter how you use them. At the end of the day, it’s simple: you need your elite guys playing at an elite level. Depth and coaching help, but they’re not enough on their own. Gotta have the stars to back it up. And an era where skill is gonna matter even more is coming? There are exceptions. St Louis, the 2014 Rangers, those early 2000 Anaheim Ducks team had decent group of forwards but really had a goalie that played lights out. And there are teams like TO that have tons of skill and lack that other element.

And in NY the team’s big money stars need to be played all the time. It is about the show. Paying ‘fans’ want to see the guys up on the Marquee and not sit there and go ‘who’s that guy?’ when watching their first NHL game at MSG. There is no win at all costs mentality at MSG. just is not in the owner’s dna. All about star power. Otherwise I can’t explain why we see what we see.

I always chuckle a little when someone proclaims "THEY'LL NEVER WIN A CUP WITH XYZ IN THE LINEUP..." because it's just so silly. The history of the NHL is littered with guys who kinda loafed and and were milquetoast...and yet stepped out of their professional career with three or four cups...Why? Because it's not the individual, or individuals. It's how they're played and how they play together that makes the difference. Talk to the 2016-2018 Sabres, who had O'REILLY, EICHEL and REINHART(oh and Evan RODIGUES like that matters) in their lineup and not only could they not win a cup, they couldn't fucking make the playoffs...And after O'REILLY was traded? EICHEL and REINHART continued on for another three playoffless seasons...Then let's wheel over to the 2016-2021 Flames, which couldn't tuck a first-round playoff series during that time with the great Matt TKACHUK and Sam BENNETT heading their squad. Not even a SNIFF at the cup for those guys. So is it the players that just woke up one day and decided to win a cup? That they LEARNED one day what it takes? Nope. They were just put in the right situation to thrive...The Panthers had a coach who knew...or if you don't want to credit him...had a default setting of when and how to play his top players to get the most out of them...the Rangers coach? Well, he did not. LAVIOLETTE put his eight best horses up against the Panthers' 12 best horses...two lines and essentially two defensemen against three lines and four defensemen. His tactic made Z, PANARIN and others look soft an ineffective...whereas MAURICE'S tactic made BENNETT, TKACHUK, and REINHART unbeatable...the Rangers' strength then...as it is now...and as it is for ANY team playing in a league dominated by speed and strength...is to spread out the ice throughout your bench. If your top six can't compete with your opponent's top six skill-wise or toughness-wise...well, stretch out your bench. Make it less about matching six top forwards against six...but nine against nine...or if you want to improve the odds even better? Twelve against 12. The team's performance is the sum total of its parts and if you can get your third and fourth line to win battles consistently against their third and fourth lines? It will mitigate the play of the top two lines. Might not win you games ALL the time, but most of them...This is the 'Moneyball' approach to hockey and it's 110 percent on the mark...so while obviously you can't just throw a team of grinders out there and expect to win...if you play them right...you can beat teams with top-end talent. The key is to have a greater mismatch with your fourth line than with your first line...all this said? You can win with literally anyone in your lineup. There were people who said teams would never win with a floating opportunist prick like Phil KESSEL in the lineup...but lo and behold, that fat fuck has three cup rings...just as many as anyone in his draft class, as many as Jon TOEWS and two more than the other four guys taken before him in the draft. Think about that for a minute.

Cm I think the Florida teams have better head coaches than the Nyr, and that’s the start of the problem which overflows to the gms. Getting the players to buy in and willing to be led seems to be where the breakdown is. The Nyr chain of command has kinks in it . I’m not even sure that the gm and the coach are on the same page. The team has been playing better since the new year started, but it’s hard to tell if it’s for real and will continue. They all know DD drury is hellbent on trading more guys , but he doesn’t have the cap excuse anymore if it’s going up over $10 million next year. His concept of strengthening the core has been by subtraction and not much addition. I smell a ufa buying spree in July. Maybe even a try at a rfa signing sheet. It doesn’t seem like he’s going to just promote guys from Hartford. He has to put his stamp on the roster so Dolan can be the postmaster general to cancel it. His cya honeymoon is over.

I forgot to post this earlier. I like that we kept Cuylle in the top 6. but still no Berard? At least Rempe will get his six minutes.... Lines per @peterbaugh.bsky.social.... Forwards.... Panarin-Trocheck-Lafrenière.... Cuylle-Zibanejad-Smith..... Kreider-Chytil-Kaliyev.... Edström-Carrick-Rempe.... Defense.... Lindgren-Fox.... Miller-Borgen.... Vaakanainen-Schneider.... Goal..... Shesterkin.... Quick

VCP- you’ve made it clear that you think that the team can’t win with Z and P. However, does that mean that the Panthers are made up of an entire team of players who are willing to sacrifice? I just do t watch them enough to know if their roster is made of all playoff performers? I guess I just didn’t think there are many teams who have all players play the same way? Since the 94 team is your model, were there no players like Z and P on that team?

Chytil obviously we hope can get through the regular season.... playoffs c'mon now really!!!

As long as ZBAD and panarin are on this team .....they are simply not playoff performance players when things get rough... It not easy to sacrifice.

NYStranger - Teams have turned around seasons from bigger setbacks than the Rangers...Do I expect that? No..Do i Hope so? yes...To me, the thing to do now is play the seasson as is (except for mybe adding a D-man) and see what happens...see if the team deserves to either be added to or sold away...The players will decide that

TDCHI - No disgreement at all! And the type of player the Rangers need now is Jacon TROUBA!!!..PJ.. Been saying the same about the Finn (and agree he ain't coming out---yet)..He does absolutley nothing..Need to get him, AK344 and Brodz out of the lineup eventually..

NYStranger - I pushed in the chips when they came out of the break and got their shit pushed by Washington. The two-game winning streak is a nice gesture...especially against Vegas and double motherfucking especially against the Devils...but they really needed to come out swinging. If the make the playoffs...and I don't think they will...they're going to end up facing the best team in the east. And I don't see them beating Washington four times. Maybe the Canes. Maybe the Devils...But also not Florida. Even the Leafs are a big question mark...but you're 110 percent right. Fuck, through another 20 percent on top of that. DRURY...ESPECIALLY if they keep sputtering out wins here and there...will be selling the farm to get rentals. He'll use ALL that cap space to bring in guys to push him to the post season if he thinks there's a chance...Like I said a few days ago: What this team SHOULD do is point the nose to the ground and hit the accelerator. Trade all the UFAs for whatever the going rate is...and keep the fingers crossed for HAGENS or FRONDELL or MISA or whoever. I hate using the 'T' word, but the dice has been cast, and this group is fucked unless something catastrophic happens to the top tier teams.

Nice player, but I'm not sure he's the right fit.... "As the New York Rangers Look for Defensive Changes, Bowen Byram Is a Name to Watch".... https://bluelinestation.com/as-the-new-york-rangers-look-for-defensive-changes-bowen-byram-is-a-name-to-watch

Rhet0ric - Other Fil? You mean Bizzaro Fil? Who never gets injured and is incredible at faceoffs?!

Mollie Walker @MollieeWalkerr.... #NYR Filip Chytil on how consistently getting hurt as he's heating up has affected him: .... "It's just helping me to be better. Of course, it sucks that I got to miss the time. I've missed so much time in my career. Every time I'm back, I just work hard. I just focus to be better. That's just my goal. It's the fuel for me to be better. It's not like starting from zero every time, but it's always the hurdle in the way and I believe that in the future, it's going to come back for me in a good way. I'm positive about all these things."

It's been reported that CHYTIL has no concussion issues. The NYR's wont go into any further detail... Expect other FIL and KREIDER back tomorrow. Really need Kreider back on the PK and the PP and we really have no PP2 without Chytil. Fingers crossed.

And if someone wants to argue that 91 points is enought, like Washington last season, then a mere .612 point %. Again the Rangers are at .500 points % with over half the season played. Possible? Yes but I would not put big money on it.

Hospo - I mean, I don't dislike BORGEN. I just think guys like him are rather easy to find. I'll also say I had a similar feeling about Kevin KLEIN when he was first acquired, and he was a straight-up warrior for the Rangers during the cup run and the following year when they made it to the conference finals. Hard for me to separate the player we got from the player we lost, but you're right...had we given up...say...a third rounder for him? Or even a second rounder? I probably wouldn't be nearly as negative. Likewise, if he was an RFA and we could ink him up at a reasonable cost for the next two or three seasons? I'd be happier. Of course, I would've also been happier if the Rangers just kept TROUBA.

So I really hope Drury and the brain rust looks at these things instead of grasping at straws. 40 games left in season. The Rangers need to win at a points % of about .675 to get to 96 points which MAY mind you, MAY be enough to sneak into the 8th seed. At the moment there are ONLY 3 teams winning at that points%. Washington, Vegas and Winnipeg. When Drury goes and blows a bunch of assets to try and save his job,…err, the season well ….I don’t really want to say told you so.

Jones should be playing over the Finn but Laviolette won’t change the lineup now….

This kids deserves better.... "Zac Jones Is Committed To Rangers Despite Trade Rumors And Growing Frustration.... Zac Jones keeps a positive attitude while he continues to get scratched out of the Rangers' lineup"... https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/new-york-rangers/latest-news/zac-jones-is-committed-to-rangers-despite-trade-rumors-and-growing-frustration

TDCHI - You know I am with you on KAKKAO and the KAKKAO-BORGEN trade but, that being said, despite where he ended up on the Kraken D pecking order for whatever reason,I have been pleasantly surprised with BORGEN,,,, While not the Rangers best d-man, he plays the most physical and toughest game....I have zero clue what the Rangers and Drury will be shooting for the rest of the season but, if they want to be relevant in the POs, they will need somebody that makes BORGEN, if he isn't dealt, the 2nd toughest/nastiest

Probably a silly idea, but one of the things that occurred to me the other day is that teams, to a large degree, really do shoot themselves in the foot when it comes to chasing UFAs and turning their backs on homegrown talent, meaning specifically the players they draft. Yet you get these situations where teams can't hold onto these players because of the cap. Of course, those are also usually the teams that are first online when it comes to signing expensive UFAs. Anywho, it'd be interesting if the NHL/NHLPA instituted a 'hometown discount' for players resigning with their draft team. Like these players count 75 percent against the cap. Would incentivize teams to really develop players, rather than sort of take a 'MEH' attitude...in other words, there would me more incentive to try guys like ROBERTSON and JONES...and stick with them...rather than seek someone via a trade or free agency. Players would still get the same salary...but someone like SHESTERKIN would only cost the Rangers $8.6 million in cap. I'm sure someone would be upset about that, but it'd encourage teams to draft smart and value their feeder system more. And you'd have star players more willing to stay in their existing market, because they could make more money. Food for thought.

RF4L - No surprise, re: BORGEN. Just to put all this love for the dude in perspective? He was a sixth/seventh defender. MONTOUR, DUNN, OLEKSIAK, and LARSSON were eating all the minutes. Ryker EVANS earned a full-time spot and BORGS was getting fewer and fewer minutes. More telling? You know who they replaced him with? Josh MAHURA. If that name doesn't ring a bell, I won't be surprised...BORGEN has been a decent soldier these past few games and if he gets MILLER settled down, great. But man, he was a contract pushed off the edge for the Kraken. And now he's in our top four.

NYStranger - Yeah, I hear you. We fans definitely take to extremes any affront to the playing time/usage of our young players. And I think you're right too...it ain't unique to the Rangers...I think to some extent, Ranger fans of a certain age are especially sensitive to it, because in the Cup and post-Cup era, there was a tendency to just bail on guys...WEIGHT, NORSTROM, MARCHANT, SAVARD, etc...Of course, we do make assumptions in a vacuum...it's entirely possible there's something none of us see...guidance that is provided that isn't heeded...etc. I mean, I used to say similar things about JT MILLER, who was always relegated to a third-line role...Folks would point out his brain farts, but come to find out there was more to the story behind the scenes...so sometimes it DOES take a move to shock a player into action...But with KAKKO? I tell you what: I'd be amazed if anyone in this organization could look at you with a straight face and say that 1. he didn't play well enough to earn a genuine and protracted spot on the top two lines or 2. that he was immature or had other warts that made him a lesser commodity to his coaches...What I saw when he came to the Rangers was a raw and FANTASTIC talent...a kid who could literally hold the puck for hours...He was as NHL-ready as they come and, given where the Rangers were in the standings, should've been given big minutes right out of the gate. The fact that he maxed out at 15 minutes with the Rangers really says it all. And that was under GALLANT. The approach LAVIOLETTE took with him was bullshit. And it got even more bullshit this season...so what he's doing with the Kraken? The chance he's getting? The way he is responding? These are givens unless your an apologist for DRURY. TO DATE, the return we got for him was criminal. We got back a decent stay-at-home defenseman on an expiring contract and a couple BS picks. THEY got a top-six player and puck magnet. KAKKO may not top 50 or 60 points, but I have ZERO reservations in saying his career with them will be miles more successful than anything we got out of that deal.

Not too much on the details...... On Ryan Lindgren: "I wonder about Detroit. Is he that big of an upgrade, though? That's the question I'd have to ask. And I don't know how big #LGRW is gonna spend..." #NYR.... Panthers also mentioned as a possible trade partner. #TimeToHunt — @frank_seravalli on latest DFO pod

Allen Walsh is good friends with bruins owner...NHLPA can't pick a representative to save their lives....fehr screwed them now Walsh...yikes

2 day old news from yardbarker (which I have no idea how accurate a track record they have) pertaining to the cap increase from $88mm to $97MM - https://www.yardbarker.com/nhl/articles/nhl_salary_cap_for_2025_26_expected_to_jump_far_more_than_originally_anticipated/s1_17453_41560676

In regard to next years cap: I would take a serious look at what it would cost to re-sign BORGEN to a 3-year deal. We only have two D currently signed next season and he has been much better than I expected.

One thing Bettman knows unfortunately.. anytime he is in a position he should concede to fans and players he just dangles expansion fee to all the owners and adds a couple teams . Owners shut up , say yes and move on same shit . At least I did see the Rangers cup when I was 23 . Nobody will see one when the league has 50 teams .

TLATS.... I'm not doubting you, but who did you read that from? Friedman said the other day it would be between $95-97 Million and NHL player agent Allen Walsh guaranteed it would be at least $97 Million. I still don't trust Bettman :)

Salary cap is expected to go from 88 million to 97 million according to dailyfaceoff

MC - And just after I submitted my letter to the editor about that fucking animal control officer. Dammit.

PJ - Agreed. I'm still not as jazzed as everyone else here, re: BORGEN, but can admit he's played well in the last few games...and you're right...he can be a good acquisition in an otherwise awful trade. My overarching concern with him is that I still think the Rangers are a weaker team after the TROUBA/KAKKO deals and secondarily, I don't see them spending the money it'll likely take to retain him...again...part of my criticism of this deal was that BORGEN isn't anything special in terms of skill. Guys his type are fairly regular. The fact we got one on an expiring contract approaching his payday deal instead of...say...and RFA...just makes it all the more frustrating. DRURY is going to be in the Sophie's choice decision to keep and lose for nothing or trade him...and it doesn't take Kreskin to figure out what he'll choose.

TD, Brooks just reported a lion attack in your neighborhood, or maybe it was just Miller out of position again.

Td, this has been the same crap since I have been a fan of the Rangers: The double standard and deference to the veteran players and the marginalization of the younger players, no matter who was playing better. Pretty much has happened under all the GM/Coaching regimes. Probably happens with lot of NHL franchises, but I don’t follow those teams and don’t really care, so I can’t say what there fans would think. But while it is unfair to the young player who is feeling like he is getting shafted, it is also on on that player to play his ass off to force his way into more playing time. That said I get what you are saying, and the Rangers return on Kakko trade was very weak.

And wait, wait, wait...KAKKO's game 'fell off'? Says who? He was playing fine right up until he was traded. In fact, his snide comment right before the trade alluded to that point. His line was basically the only one that WASN'T a defensive sinkhole.

E. Don't forget a 3rd and a 6th. Not a whole lot better but one (or both) could pan out one day.

You gotta look at someone by their body of work and Buchnevich and Kakko yielded Borgen a rental, Blais a bust, and a 2 pick flipped for Copp a rental. Drury don’t have much to be proud of? Does he?

TD…Both can be true….Rangers needed some physicality and he has provided it….Not liking the trade had nothing to do with whether Borgen is playing well or not….Which is my point…

VCP not sure why this is brought up again today , but absolutely there needs to be a change from a hard cap. It just sucks. It mostly hurts us fans, which I am sure is pretty far down Buttman’s list of priorities. Many possibilities such as Luxury Tax as you suggested, Franchise Player designations which limit how that player’s salary counts against the cap, a team friendlier buy-out rule, the ability for teams to cut players if they are not living up to their contract…humm, I like that one! LOL. I also think there needs to be tighter rules on no movement clauses, state tax considerations, Canada vs USA exchange rate considerations. Tighter rules on how teams are doing salary structures, max salaries for players might need to be amended as the Cap goes up. As in a lower max % of cap. I think there needs to be an expanded waiver daft the last week of training camp, where teams must put a certain number of players on waivers and if claimed there would be compensation by draft picks depending on players existing contracts and RFA/UFA status and seniority. It might help players stuck in the log jams like Jones or Hajek and help teams do real hockey moves and not just player salary dumps.

PJ - Look, BORGEN may play well and he may be a good defenseman. He's never going to be much more than a five/six guy on a good team or a second pairing guy on an average team. Good support player. Point isn't whether he's good or bad. Point is that the Rangers got fleeced and are weaker team now than the were at the top of the season.

Rangers playing better defense sense the KAKKO trade. Welp, there haven't been any lion attacks in my neighborhood lately. I should credit the new animal control officer.

If you are trying to say the Rangers got a good deal for KAKKO, you're fucking idiot. Plain and simple. No further explanation needed.

Replacing Rempe late in a one goal game is good coaching…He has no business out there in that situation…

Back in the 30's in the NHL there was a team and a player cap ...... pretty hilarious....need to get rid of the cap and go to luxury tax

One issue with rempe is he is very poor in the D zone in skating the puck out....he will hopefully get better

Hey Einstein show more confidence in Remps and he will play with more confidence. Pulling him off the 4th liner late in the game was a fools choice. Just ask the Caps about this bo-bo. He only drew a penalty and assisted on the game winner. Lav are you that fragile?

I have often mused that letters on the jersey give you access to the refs and it’s an honor amongst your team. But leadership comes from different sources. I think dumping Goodrow and Trouba took at the ships rudder for a time. If you looked at the struggling Ranger team it was not a lack of talent but it seems a lack of know how for calming the situation get the teams attention and settle everyone down. I think the team needed time for new voices to fill the room. It seems as if Trocheck has taken some of that load on. And I like that because I like the way Trocheck plays. It’s just sad to me that there isn’t much of that guy who everyone looks to when a period goes tits up. So, maybe that vacuum is being filled now.

And I think Miller was/is a classic example of the reverse MIDAS touch..For sure, he was screwing up..but ..also caught in the Ranger downward spiral that was making mst meverybody look like shit..Loved his play over the last 5 games (outside the huge Brain fart)

E - Almost always the case! Now, why they all or most started playing smarter and better and as a team is the the $64000K question..Just hope it has finally come together..How good they can be with this roster playing as a TEAM is the next question..But, first things first...... Aand I guess I don't see VEGAS enough, from the start I could see how big and physical they were, playing big and htiting nd finishing checks at every opportunity....A game the Rangers stood up to for 60 minutes!...Now, 65 minutes might have been different nd so would series....but...GREAT win following up on the DEVIL game

HOSPO: aint it funny how when your best players are playing their best everything kind of takes care of itself. Case in point Miller. Moribund season, the team around him plays better and he looked like his old stuff. I’ll say this though. Vegas didnt bring the physicality thru 2 but they definitely stepped up in the third. And I dont think the Rangers would’ve held on much longer. Especially off that late game PK. But Edstrom slipped one thru and they escaped with 2–points. That was one of those wins that builds on something. Let’s see.

I’m not paying to read this but I think I know what it says…https://nypost.com/2025/01/11/sports/nhl-season-has-been-defined-by-mediocrity-across-the-board/

“ It had been 54 days since the Rangers last followed up a win with another win. Fifty-four days of losses piling up in bunches, and feeling like every step forward led to two steps back.”… similar to 54 years and now 30 years and counting.

To me it all goes back to the NHL and the owners have given many the excuse of not being successful by having a cap instead of a luxury tax. And the recycling of gms and coaches jobs even with not having a good resume. It’s way past time for Buttman to retire, and hire someone that brings in some new and old ideas, instead of cya built in excuses. Meritocracy is better than paritocracy aka parity.

Unfortunately kaapo didn’t feel like the Nyr were giving him a fair shot like they gave to laffy. The kid is a 200 foot hockey player who needed more confidence and encouragement. I thought he would at least become a Jan erixon. But he will be more than that. DD drury and all the Nyr coaches missed that because they didn’t have the patience. Now DD is probably convincing himself that they don’t need kreider because they are winning without him. Management always finds a way to prove themselves right even when they are wrong. And some fans agree with that philosophy thinking that they are being loyal, so they try to present evidence. Kaapo was the number two pick for a reason. He’s not jack Hughes, or laffy, he’s kaapo.

I was at tonights game and was extra Vegas blowout..Rangers played super smart Simple D, rempe was very careful and didn't go overboard even though there was a vicious cross check in the 3 Rd period I think and the refs blew it..in fact they were pretty awful..I was waiting for the rangers to crumble and amazingly they didn't....shocked we beat NJ and Vegas.....were were really good..Vegas is actually ridiculously loud building...they put on quite a show.... thankfully the team didn't.

ANDREI - All i know is that PANARINA fianlly took his head out of his ass where it was for 10 games...Laffy found some confidence....ZBAD found some confidence....Kreider got hurt..:)..Fox finding his game anad mobility....Lindgren plying a simpler game.....Lvioletter morre fair in his ice time management and based on merit (i.e., Carrick) and..REMPS in the lineup..

ANDREI - Who said it would go down as one of the worst trades in NHL history? I'll wait...I think KKK is gonna be VERY GOOD and BORGEN not a Ranger after this year but, yep, we'll see in few years...Personally, as I said before (no, no0t bragging like most) BORGEN is better than I thought he was going to be and I like his style....but also UFA..to be..so take your own advice because as a tram they played some shitty D with BORGEN in the beginning....Why are they finally playing better these last two-three games? ..There is not a single answer to that and I sure as hell know nobody on here knows exactly why the good things (Coaching and playing) all finally came into alignment..Lets just hope it continues

Borgen was a beast in this game…Some can’t give him credit because they hate the trade but he has been damn good…Very physical and with Lindgren getting back to form our D is looking much better…

Hope they can keep it up for the next two games where I’ll be watching in person! Almost cancelled Salt Lake Trip, but we decided the Chicago game would be the deciding factor and they pulled it out!

To add to my last post. Kakko basically playing the same level as the start of the season and folks thinking it’s a massive improvement shows just how far his game has fallen of late. I think that really shows why he was scratched. It fell off over time and got bad…now that it’s back to what it started like this year it seems like this massive jump, when really, it’s just a back to a base level

Hospo...I agree 100 % ....BUT...we already have a small,talented Dman with wonderful skills....we don't need a reasonable facsimili. JMHO.

I treating fact on Kakko. The first 10 games this season he had 7 points for the Rangers and was a plus 9 (for what plus minus is worth). In his first games with Seattle he has 7 points and is a minus 1 (again for what that’s worth). But everyone seems to be saying that he has come alive. And his offensive game is showing up. And he is playing better than ever. Well. Really? Because he did better the start of the year…I say that because he had less ice time than in Seattle so far. So his points per 60 are lower than they were at the start of this season…and he was on the ice for less goals against.

Cnparda…I noticed the same…Vegas wasn’t even skating back for the puck and they still called icing…Officiating bad and the Knights are easy to hate…

Hospo: I talked about it earlier this year. Everyone was so focused on the D-men themselves and not focus on the defense. What I mean is that no defense pairings ever thought up will look good against NHL level forwards when their teammates up front do not support them properly. When forwards don’t come back or cover no one, leave passing lanes wide open and provide zero puck support when they gain possession in the D zone or don’t drop back to cover the point when the D pinch in every D-man in history will look like me trying to play at a pro level. It’s a group effort. It’s lie something clicked back into place over the holiday break. And the. The rust had to be knocked off that machine, and the last few games they got it all oiled up and the machine is running smooth again…well at least mostly lol

Speaking of Borgen, isn't interesting that Rangers started playing better defensively right after Kappo trade? Must be a coincidence, right? Couse I can swear, I was reading here on the wall how Rangers got raped in the Kappo trade and how it will go down as one of the worst trades in NHL history. Will always say to that, is that smart thing would be to wait till all chips have played out and time had passed to see the full picture. Right now, looks to me that Rangers got exactly what they needed on the 2nd pair and it had stabilized the overall defense. It also looks like Kappo might be finally settling in NHL. So far, it seems like win-win for both teams, but let's see in a few month, how everying plays out. If Rangers make the playoffs, getting Borgen in a trade could end up being a big factor why team was able to turn it around.

NEWFIE - THe D men, no matter who the six are, always look better when the Forwards are consistently helping out like they did tonight, no?

4-1-1 sine the start of the new year. 4-3-1 since the Christmas break ended. But you can argue that they deserved a better result in the two games in Florida. They wildly outshot the Bolts and played a solid game against Florida. It felt like they were so close to turning a corner. Now the rest of the games since have been much better. Even the Cals game, the o ly regulation loss this month. They scored 4 even strength goals. It was the PK and PP that failed them but there were still good signs in other areas. The biggest part about this 4-1-1 stretch is that they are 3-1-1 against playoff teams….woth two of those teams being division leaders. So no pushovers outside of the Hawks who are way down the standings.

Well,at least I didn't jinx us earlier.Jersey in OT and beating LV at home. Shesty had nothig to do (like 30-35 saves). What is happening here. The D tonight was outstanding tonight (so for the Jones lovers.) do you get it ?????

Getting their game back now. Finally. This one was gutsy against a very good team. They face another one on Tuesday.

Whats with the rangers llayi g as a team and playing with some pride. Are they done pouting ? Hope they keep working hard

Lots to add here after that one but am I smoking crack or were there a lot of icing against the Rangers that were not icing. Refs were terrible but the Rangers fought through it, which is what good teams do. Also Shesty was amazing.

Ndrei - I though Vakanineen was pretty weak and Jones should go in for him..but that's an arguement for another time!!!

PJ - Yeah, let's keep the fingers crossed on Key...Rangers need him big time..THree really good games in a row going up agisnt the best of the best teams...ANd Laviolette really trusts him...and 4 of the other d also..all doing great job..And finally, with help from the forwards..As a TEAM

Excellent win. Played hard all three periods. Defense was very good, and most importantly, Rangers won won against bets team in NHL without needing Shesti to steal the game for them. Borgen-Miller pair had a very strong period, Fox had a very good as well. Vaakanainen-Schneider pair was good.

I'd say best win of the season , total team effort.. best teh best and the crap officiating .. f'in dive at the end .. at least call embellishment for christ sake

If Miller can play like this more often I will head up his fan club…Great game K….

Great win AGAIN! Rangers are going all out, blocking shots, contesting every puck, not turning their backs or turning away from anything! Really great to see!

Even better than the Devil fame ..gainst a physical imposing team...Great kill and D at the end...

These are western refs. It’s likely they see Vegas and they’re diving so much they don’t even notice it anymore. But these guys go down so easy. It’s shocking how quickly they will give up and go down hoping for a call.

I mean dude started to fall AFTER he let go of his stick. He let go of his stick and then dude went down. Thats not how it happens zebra

Another dive easily seen going down easier than he should have. And the refs buy it again.

Halfway through the season and the leading team for D goals in on pace for just 26? Does that seem low?

Did you just see LINDGREN just clear the crease then block the shot? The Black KNight Rises!!

According to the NHL stats. The Rangers goal is the only shot of the period. For both teams. That has to be wrong. It feels like both teams have gotten shots on net.

Hell yeah..the 4th line...! Rempe to Brodz to EDstrfom...Great deflection....Keep- flappinig your lips KOleasaar!!!

That call on Trocheck was a friggin joke. I don't know how these guys can look themselves in the mirrow between periods ?

Setting picks to create chances and no calls…No goal as the douchebag didn’t sound the horn until 5 seconds after the period ended…

Fucking refs are incompetent! CLEAR INTERFERENCE on Fox and they call nothing! Assholes!

Rempe in his own end is so often lost. That's coachable but wow he looks house leagueish at times.

How many fucking passes have the Rangers made for HORRIBLE ANGLE shots. Cuylle just did it….SHOOT CUYLLE!

Borgen is playing well. He is big and he’s strong….and he’s been really using his strength against a big Vegas team.

Showing resilience.. and good for Trochek to get that bS call back .. playin like a 5 man unit defensively for the first time in friggin ages..

Go straight Laf you idiot. 2 forced cross ice passes in 30 seconds resulting in cough ups.

PJ _ of ll people a scum puke like Kolesar saying that? Too funny....Good sidestep by MIller to get the penalty

That was a bad two on one by Smith and Cuylle--ypu can't piss thpse away in games like these

We're playing really well, get shot goal and then Schneider puts it in his own net. NYR luck.

I hope everyone noticed that a lot of guys in white jerseys just did a lot of things right. We just outplayed and out shot the hottest team in the league 12-5 in their home barn. Mixed lines and what has been a questionable D of late.Rejoyce and I hope I didn't just jinx the rest of the game.......... LOL :)

Damn..Vegas is big and plays big..but Rangers playing well or better so far...but only 20 minutes...Could never see the Rangers beating them in a series but a game, tonight, why not?

So far, I really like JBRO in between the twin towers. I mean, he's not Brody Lamb, but who is?

Who cares if we ripped him on here, we didn't get rid of him..somebody else did!!,,Agree..very good period so far against a damn physical team

Carrick deserves a promotion based on his play..but not sure playing with AK34 and Vesey is a promotion

New lineup: Carrick moves up to 3rd C with Kaliyev and Vesey. Brody down to 4th with the towers. No Gru!

PJ.... To be Fair: Kakko wasn't willing to accept less. I think if he was willing to take a deal as a bottom six guy (getting paid like one), he might possibly still be here. He thinks he's a top six guy. If he can do it, more power to him. Sometimes, it takes a guy going to another to put it all together.

HellsKitchen…Exactly how I feel about Kakko…Expectations got in the way here and Rangers not willing to accept something less…Happens often…

TD.... Where is I mention the trade.... at all? I am almost always critical of Drury's trades, except on the rare occasion where he pulls off a good one.

Rhet0rict - Man...I really applaud your glass-is-half-full-ism. But dude that trade was AWFUL. Only way it isn't a travesty is if the Rangers land a player the caliber of KAKKO with that third rounder(i.e. the ANDERSSON deal)...or if KAKKO just decides to quit hockey and the Rangers resign BORGEN. Man, that deal was bad. So bad. Horrifically bad.

People throw around the word bust too loosely these days. KAKKO is an NHL caliber player and will likely have a long career. Will he ever justify his being picked 2nd overall in his draft year? Not likely, but stranger things have happened. That said, NYR's fans always have buyers remorse when a player get's moved and he get's really hot. It's not like he never got hot for us when he was playing here. Remember Sammy Blais? He had 8 goals in 12 games after being traded. Where is he now? BLUES fans were crowing about winning that trade and then he fell off the face of the earth. I'm not implying Kakko will follow that same path, but we just need to have some realistic expectations.

Kakko is not a bust. He is a victim of expectations due to his draft position. Like the Strome brothers he will have a good NHL career. The Rangers always expected too much of him and Seattle got him cheap and will be happy with what they get out of him. Time to move on.

sjw - or...or...OR...A team FINALLY started skating him more than 12 minutes a night AND on a line with guys that complement his skill AND with time on the special teams. Go figure. It's ALMOST like there were people here calling for the Rangers to do what the Kraken are now doing with KAKKO. Get the lube, because this buttfucking is going to hurt. Bad.

Watched the last half of the Sabres/Kraken game while doin some cardio... Kakko was not really noticeable.. Sabres fell apart in the third.. goal coming off the wing but perhaps the goalie should have stopped it, kinda like that goal in montreal.. and the second he was wide open alone in front of the net ... a place he never seemed to go here .. not dissing the kid .. maybe away from the pressure of expectations of being a second overall pick .. he can find his game...he struck me as being kind of a somber personality...

TD. And 1st star. Amazing what happens when you give a skilled kid legitimate top 6 minutes. So mismanaged by the Rangers but gee that's no precedent setter is it?

Footnote: The Rangers and all the idiots who said KAKKO is a bust will REALLY regret moving this kid.

MC - I mean, it's AMAZING that with ALLLLLLLLLLLL the opportunity the Rangers gave KAKKO...the gobs and gobs of ice time. The hours upon hours of time with top line talent...on first line...on second line...on first line again...playing 40 minutes a night...the PP1 unit...that KAKKO just couldn't produce...and now...just SUDDENLY out of the blue, he's producing...WEIRD.

Notice how PP1 suddenly became effective after they changed up their approach…something they and the coaching staff stubbornly refused to do. And PP1 doesn’t have Kreider on it…

Brett Howden: 26 YO center, strong defensively, 6-3 and 210 lbs... has 15 goals for LV, more goals than any NYR center.. ouch!

DRURY- Drury couldnt have pulled these deals off because he traded away the NYRs 2nd round pick.. but so agressive and creative, kudos to Doug Armstrong. Broberg’s been a terrific all-around top-four addition. He has scored 14 points in 30 games and excelled defensively, surrendering just 1.36 goals against per 60 during his minutes. He should continue thriving in the second half, especially now that Cam Fowler’s addition on the left side will take some weight off Broberg’s shoulders. Holloway is second on the Blues with 15 goals and is on pace for 61 points. He’s big, fast, dynamic and skilled. Holloway’s evolving into a play-driving ace — the Blues have controlled 54 percent of expected goals and outscored opponents 30-19 with him on the ice at five-on-five.

E we agree about Goodrow the intangibles are soooooo important....life in cap.....we need another one like him....

Apparently Chytil is a game time decision, and Berard still with the team. So thinking if Chytil is okay they’ll send Groulx back down. Either way I think Berard will be back soon.

Watching Bruins shockingly win in OT- a couple of things stand out. 1. I really loathe the Panthers. 2. I think signing Mikkola lwould have been a good move at 2.5 mil. But he might not have wanted to sign in NY, so I won’t say Rangers screwed up, but I like his game.

Goodrow has been tremendous for SJ. For starters, they’re very young. Goodrow is a stabilizing force in that locker room. He also has played a lot with Celebrini. And he’s been his Adam Graves. Touch him and Goodrow will come after you. Truth is I’ve watched him in SJ and I’m appreciating it more and more what the Rangers had in him. And I get the salary argument and I fully get it. But damn that guy made the Rangers better.

schneidw - yeah, I have no idea what DRURY gave his buddy to take that contract albatross from our neck, but it must have been something good/big, lol. New car for his kid? Daily shipped fresh pizza for a year?

Remember Goodrow??? Claiming Goodrow off unconditional waivers was a head-scratching decision in the summer and still looks baffling now. Goodrow isn’t performing like an everyday-caliber NHL forward (four points in 39 games and terrible underlying numbers) yet he’s on the books at a $3.64 million AAV through the 2026-27 season.

You yellow bastard…….come back here and take what’s coming to you. I’ll bite your legs off!

TD. Amputation appendages with a meat clever? Geesh dude I'm trying to enjoy my morning coffee!

Agree that plenty Dreary and Lardiolette decisions are head scratchers. Might be less befuddling if Dreary would meet with the media and explain things from time to time. There intelligent loyal fans would be appreciate such niceties. Not this miserable self absorbed asshole.

Rhet0ric - And a month before the trade deadline when teams are still trying to figure it out...TBH, every time I hear a trade rumor or the Rangers mentioned among teams looking to make a move, I begin shuddering...It's like watching someone amputate their appendages with a meat cleaver one by one.

I don't much like sending down BERARD, but GROULX earned a call up. In truth, he probably earned a spot on the team. At the time, he looked better than CARRICK. Either way, this is more about having a center. And I suspect maybe BRODZINSKI isn't ready to go or that they want someone with size in the lineup...regardless, he's played great in Hartford. Not sure if he's got the tools to produce much offense in the NHL, but at bare minimum, he can be an effective checking-line center...But I'll echo the sentiment that nothing this team does ever makes much sense. I guess maybe the thought is that there isn't an appreciable difference between BRODZINSKI and BERARD and that the former has to go through waivers, while the latter doesn't. And why lose a player when there's a chance CHYTIL is ready to go?

Wildcard - I was going to respond categorically, but it's not even worth it. Just about everything you have there is either wrong or way off the mark. 50 percent. 70 percent. Where are you getting this shit from? Show it. That's just nonsense. He was bounced around lines for his entire career in New York. The closest he's ever had to having his own line was this season with CUYLLE and CHYTIL and when he was put on a line with CHYTIL and LAF. If you are going to stand by the Rangers' use of KAKKO and say they developed him properly, then I will call you a fool. Oh and FAST was nicknamed 'Quickie' by AV as a pun on his last name.

td: Stop with the “Kakko wasn’t given a chance” crap. He had a season…yes he got hurt after about 49 games. But the entire time he played he spent almost all of it with the top 6. The other guys regularly there had 30, 31, 39, and 41 points. Kakko had 16. That is that is the points they had when Kakko got injured. 70% of the first half of the season he spent with top 6 players. He also spent another season where about 50% of his time was there. Now I’m sorry. But he had every opportunity to step up. And failed to do so. Only to look like he was going to again when given a lesser role. He faltered under that longer leash and more responsibility. Laf got LESS ice time. LESS time with top players over that same timeframe, but still improved and given the chance to take a top 6 role he grabbed it. Couple has gotten less ice time and less time with top players than Kakko did…somehow he had improved, and taken control of his opportunities and run with them. Kakko did not. As for Fast, Kakko is nothing at all like him. Fast was called “Quicky” for a reason. His speed and quickness are what made him effective. He was tenacious off the puck and a dog trying to get possession and keep possession. Kakko is a much calmer player, he doesn’t battle for or pursue pucks hard. He isn’t quick or nimble. And is Kakko really better offensively? Fast had 20 or more points in 5 of his first 6 NHL seasons, Kakko is about to have his 3rd 20+ point season in year 6. And it’s not like Fast was playing 82 game season in the NHL. With the same number of games Kakko would like have the same number of 20 and 30 point seasons and have the one 40 point one. But he has not shown to be all that much more productive.

Maybe lardass snagglepuss is going to promote Carrick until Mr whipple comes back. He’s probably one of the few who hasn’t slacked off during the wonderful record of 4-15 getting 8 of 38 possible points during the player revolt against managements’ version of leadership, especially DD vest, who is not eligible for a charisma bypass because they can’t find it. I’m still trying to figure out why not give Casey jones a shot in place of Urho Vaakanainen ( aka ur who?) by the brain rust of houseless and lardass and their almost nonexistent defensive system.

In regard to the Berard/Giroux swap: From what I've read, it's very temporary. It makes me wonder if Carrick or JBRO are also questionable for the game... Or maybe they just want to put JBRO back with Z? Nothing this management does makes any sense....Knowing Drury, Maybe they're getting ready to make a trade... because the best time to do it would be when we are finally starting to climb our way out of a massive hole.

Interesting BB for BG swap. I do think the former is a legit NHLer but I'd rather see him with 20+ minutes a game with the Pack right now. Hopefully his NHL stint will up his AHL game. And I like the more complete game BG offers. Will Lardiolette give him a chance???

Pack win in OT. Mancini OT goal and Garand another strong game. Don't trade either Dreary.

I think the league the league has adjusted to fox and not getting faked out as much by his dekes ....what else is there .....he has great vision but has no shot , is slow and small.....miller has size speed , good in the ozone....has his warts but is obviously still learning.....can't teach size....if fox takes power skating in the off season it might help.....the game is just too fast I think for fox

I agree while Borden has played better than expected he is a placeholder for Mancini. On the PP I think we found out that’s it’s better with ZBAd in middle slot.

Bo Groulx has been recalled from the Hartford Wolf Pack and Brett Berard has been assigned to the Hartford Wolf Pack.

Good riddance. That suggests addition by subtraction. That’s not what the case is. He just was stalled out and he wasn’t what the Rangers need now. They need physicality and grit.

re: KAKKO, it WAS happening in New York. Just the fans didn't get it and the coach(es) didn't appreciate it. I mentioned this long before the trade...but there are a lot of similarities between KAKKO and a former Ranger by the name of Jesper FAST. While obviously there were different expectations...there were a lot of folks that were thinking FAST could be a find when he was coming up through the ranks...But after a couple seasons, he was sort of written off as a bottom line player and not very important. I remember people used to freak the fuck out when he got sent out in the top six. And when he wasn't resigned? Almost no one cared. Meh. Just another plugger...but man, was that just silliness. That dude was a critical piece of the team and just a fantastic player you could plug in on ANY line with ANY player and he'd compliment them great. He went on to be an integral low-cost highly-productive player for the Canes that they desperately miss now that he's injured and likely finished...Same thing though. I see KAKKO as a very similar player. Better offensively, maybe not as good defensively...but still. VERY valuable. He was doing fantastic with the team and had they simply given him a bit more leash and a bit more responsibility...and had fans just gotten over the fact he'd never be a superstar...he could've been a very valuable part of this franchise long into the future...people act like a dude nailing 30-40 points on third line an making $2.5 million is a bad thing. Bull fucking shit. That's EXACTLY the type of player you want. And I beg to differ with ANYONE who claims he was given anything close to a fair shake in New York. He was marginalized by three coaches, given a bullshit role and did it quietly and effectively RIGHT UP UNTIL the moron head coach decided to start making him a healthy scratch for no particular reason other than to get his rocks out. KAKKO may or may not become a top-six player...but what he is now? He's a very valuable commodity. And the Kraken gave next to nothing to get him...an expiring contract defenseman they didn't need and a couple of picks that were superfluous considering all they have in the pipeline. This idea that him getting traded for shit is fine? Well, it's laughable. DRURY should be fired for that and that alone.

E - I don't know, it was happening for a month for Kakkao..Just as it WAS for Cuylle..My how things have changed...one gone ,the other scuffling...And, I'm not sure it should be "Good riddance" to Kakkao, he tried his best.."Good Luck" should be more like it..hope he succeeds

WILD: respectfully Kakko has been great. The guy has been driving offensive zone time. With Schwartz they’re playing very solid. Kakko is a great fit. I think Kakko is going to struggle to score as everyone hoped he would here but I think he’s a good acquisition. Much better than what came the other way. But it wasn’t gonna happen in NY for Kakko. Good riddance.

TDCHI - I agree those guys like LINDGREN and maybe BIGREN are likely gone, but not if they are the best options on the FA market for a team that will need one or two..Unless they go for TROUBS!!!! Man, i miss the potential of his big hits!

re: SMITTY Jr., I gotta say, the guy has a motor for someone who is on the downside of 30 and looked essentially like a future buyout last year...he hasn't played bad and I can't sit back and claim he doesn't belong in the lineup. He does. And he deserves a solid 14-15 minutes, to be clear...but if we stand back and look at what was traded and what we got...he's simply not worth it. That was a bad deal and I don't care that salary was eaten. Why? Because SMITTY ain't worth $5 million. He's barely worth the $3.6 million he's getting now. Still a good player. Can't fault him for that. But just not worth it. There were any number of UFAs on the market who are earning LESS than the Rangers are paying him and producing just as well, if not better. Stefan NOESEN for one. He didn't cost the Devils anything and is making $1 million less, albeit on a three-year deal, but one that is easily divested if needed...And then there's our good buddy Jack ROSLOVIC, who is younger and on a one-year contract at $2.8 million. He didn't cost the Canes anything...Or Jesper BOQVIST, who is faster and younger than SMITTY and is costing the Panthers the league minimum...oh and he plays center. OH...and here's another one: Fellow named Dylan HOLLOWAY, who signed a $2.2 million 2-year deal offer sheet with the Blues, costing them what? A THIRD ROUNDER. EVen Jeff SKINNER, who isn't really working out that well in Edmonton, has basically similar production and is making $600K less...and cost nothing at all. The list is pathetically exhaustive. And that's BEFORE you get into the argument that a dude like KAKKO...or BERARD...or even OTHMANN should've been given a chance to take that spot from the get-go...if you are among the very slim minority of fans saying the SMITTY Jr. deal 'wasn't that bad,' you're simply arguing to read yourself bitch.

rf4L, I not keep saying it. Math is math. Those numbers are fact. So, yes, if Rangers are playing in the 3rd round the playoffs, Rangers much rather have a warm body in the form of the black Ace, in case he is needed, and chances are that he will be needed, if team makes it to the Cup finals, than a low 4th rounder that will be used on a player that is 4-5 years away, having less then 10% even playing in NHL.

Hospo: Said that earlier - if the Rangers are in a PO wild card fight Dreary will trade away more futures to worthless rentals, thereby kicking down the road by a year or 2 what he should be doing this year. But it won't be him doing it.

BORGEN is likely gone for almost the same reason LINDGREN is likely gone. BORGEN will want a raise and/or a long-term contract. Kinda like MIKKOLA: He's not worth much more than they're paying him, but someone will give him more and at a longer term. And there's a guy named MANCINI who already has NHL experience under his belt and looked good, is a RHS and has better offensive ability. The BORG is a placeholder for him. I could be wrong. It's happened before...but when you think whether the Rangers will want to spend a minimum of $2.7 million per on him over three to five years or $870K on a guy who is bigger, faster and has more offensive ability? But who knows.

andrei: Yep you keep saying that. Guess you'd be fine if Gorton had traded their 2014 4ths for crud - no Igor. But that's ok, those picks are worthless.

And seeing a game last night without KREIDER and CHYTL..I think back to what KREIDER said a month ago..about the team needing to slog through this funk and come out stronger on the end...I agreed with him way back then..but lost faith along the way.....More then likely they will slide back but Who knows? maybe they put themselves back in a position where Drury becomes a buyer so he can make RF4L and your head explode!!!

ANDREI - That part I agree with...what happens with BORGEN and other players depends on if and how much this season turns around and what DRURY's goals are...

rf4L, again, there is a reason on why Smith cost a 2nd rounder. That's due Shitsburg picking up 1/3 of the cap $. That's a going rate. Again, not my trade. I would have said it fuck it and made Bromance to play with Rempe. Frankly, we can agree to disagree on the 4th for Ruhwedel, and that's perfectly fine.. I don't give two shits about that trade. To me and probably to the most NHL, 4th-7th rounders are a low price to pay. You obviously see them as a high commodity, even though over 90% of drafted players in those rounds will never make it to NHL. Again, nothing wrong with that. We all have our opinions.

Andrei - No, I was talking about this statement "Borgen would have to be either re-signed or traded at the deadline"..which is wrong

PJ, agree, but maybe, just maybe, Miller is that type of the player that must have a specific partner to play with, to play well. It is somewhat common between d-man. BTW, that Miller gave away last game, happened with Lindgen on the ice and Miller was passing back into the position where normally, his partner would be. Happened during line change. Not an excuse by any stretch. Just a dumb play to begin with. Just saying.

Common sense and Chris Drury is an oxymoron - common sense, for example, tells you not to give up a 4th for Rud or a 2nd and 5th for Smith.

IMO Schneider is easily a top 4 dman even if Lardiolette is reluctant to play him there. He's the top +/- defenseman on the club and that's no coincidence. Superior defensively than Miller with less offensive raw skills but less brainfarts, too.

Hospo, which part? About highly thought out? No, I heard and read it in multiple places. As far as re-signing/trading him? If two weeks ago, I gave Rangers less then 10% of making the playoffs, then now they have between 15-20%. Guess it will all depend on where Rangers will be near the trade deadline. If they are still playing 50% hockey, they will be far out, so decision will be simple to sell. That would raise the re-signing question. I'm sure that Drury already knows what range Borgen is looking for. Just makes no sense to let Borgen walk out as UFA, unless Rangers are in the playoffs or at the minimum, fighting among three teams. Again, my pure speculation, but somethings are common sense.

Andrei…Yes they do but not like Miller…Some of this tolerated with a D that provides significant offense…Miller has continued to regress in that area…Laviolette has far from given up on him as he played him in the most tense moments last night…One game but he as rewarded for it…Miller played well and hopefully is inspired by the confidence placed in him…

ANDREI - Is that your opinion or fact? Seems to me the Rangers could ride him through the POs if they wanted to, even if you didn't agree...Up to DRURY, not you.....And,honestly, BORGEN would be a moron to resign with a big UFA pay day ahead for him.......And if he is traded with the Rangers (not you) punting, he sure as fuck bettter get a 2nd rounder (which isn't all that much at a deadline) after the Rangers gave up KAKKAO

Hospo, Borgen would have to be either re-signed or traded at the deadline. Said it before, insiders were talking about Borgen at the time of the Kappo trade, as highly though out, and that he should bring back a 2nd rounder, maybe more, if he continues to play well.

Bob, I'm with you on Miller-Borgen pair. Things to consider. How much $ Milles is looking for and will it block Schneider and Mancini grows? I really like Schneider, but is he a 2nd pair d-man or is he a 3rd pair? Mancini probably have a higher ceiling then Schneider.

PJ - Wanting to resign (or extend) BORGEN is one thing, and lets give him another 30 games or so, but being able to resign him as a UFA after a good year where UFA is the Holy Grail for money is something totally different and not anything you count....But something to be considered if we like him..

PJ, not at all. I'm just making my point that every d-man makes mistakes. BTW, did you see that gift of the pass that Wild d-man gave to Ross Colton of Colorado on the 1st goal?

TD - hungry hungry hippo, lol. TBH - what I wrote was way more being provocative than actually believing it would happen. Right or wrong, just trying to come up with a different possible take on things. I have no actual clue, lol.

https://www.bladeofsteel.com/nhl-team/anaheim-ducks/gary-bettman-and-the-nhl-looking-to-make-major-cba-change-after-recent-frank-vatrano-contract-per-friedman

My take as a GM? I would give my players a Jan. 1 deadline every year to get under contract. Not signed? You're gone at the deadline. Period. Full stop. Might take a little bit of leniency with RFAs on a case-by-case basis...but that's the deal. Don't care if you're Ben HARPUR or Artemi PANARIN. You tell me where you want to be on Sept. 1, and if the answer is anywhere or anything BUT New York? You're gone. Can't agree on a deal but want to stay? TOO BAD. Sign or you've got two months and change to pack your things. For the life of me, I can't understand why teams let anyone go to free agency other than having a total lack of understanding for why this is a bad idea...One of the most painful things on the planet was to watch DRURY trade a shit-ton of assets for COPP and VATRANO and keep Ryan STROME, all while knowing full-well that none of them would be kept...only to do almost the same exercise the next season with KANE, TARASENKO and MIKKOLA. And Tyler MOTTE on both years...Like, just to think how much of the future got pissed away in those deals? And then to follow it ALL up with the ROSLOVIC, WENNBERG and RUHWEDEL deals, only in this instance, he would've been better off pissing away RUHWEDEL...Pure madness from this clown. My preference for this deadline? Someone kidnap DRURY, lock him in a very thick concrete bunker and allow him to have ZERO contact with the outside world starting the week before the deadline.

Limbo - Man, I credit your optimism! I just don't think DRURY plays 3-D chess. Or chess at all. Or checkers. Or tiddlywinks, to be honest. Maybe Hungry Hungry Hippo...But seriously...the cap space he has is really short-term. Goes *POOF* on July 1, so any deals that would net him assets would be for pending UFAs that are making a lot of cash...Yanni GOURDE, Claude GIROUX, maybe BOESER and GAVRIKOV...Those are the only names that stand out as possibly on the move...Anywho, I think the more likely scenario is that the Rangers get close to the playoffs and DRURY pisses away the sparse assets he got from the TROUBA and KAKKO deals to fill up that $21 million in deadline space that will be burning a hole in his pocket.

rf4L: I said not one but two off seasons ago that they should move Chytil to RW and then find a replacement center instead of trying to find a RW and keeping him at center. At that time it was more about his style and lack of faceoff ability and his defensive miscues. Adequate for a wing but not a center IMHO. Now as you point out, we add in the health issues and what is clearly the endangers going to the very extreme of caution with him. He will continue to miss time here and there when something pops up. At least for the foreseeable future. Maybe over time they learn his new baseline and when to worry and when to not worry. I still say to move him to wing. Trade Smith and Jones together and I bet you can get a good not old, but not young (say 26-28 yea old) two way center who has a bit more durability. Sure you will lose some skill at C with Chytil being on wing, but then you gain his smooth hands on the wing and his shot as well. If he doesn’t work out there you can always move him later. But he is such a good skill guy, it would be a shame to lose him. But take some off his plate. Let him jsut fly up the wing with the puck, or fly up without it and receive the passes in stride and unleash that shot of his coming off the boards. For me it’s a win win. Get a “new” center with some term, Improve the depth and skill on wing, improve the depth and off puck and faceoff performance at center and if there is an injury at center Chytil can jump over and it’s not a major step for him. It’s seems like a win all around.

RF4L - BWHAHAHAH...Now he had said 'bonebrained' I would've been following right a long!

E: Kakko is hardly “delivering” in Seattle. Half his points are off others doing things and he jsut happens to be the recipient of a point for it. Fans here are already like “I see why he was scratched in NY” the feeling is that if they were closer to the top rather than the bottom of the standings, he would t be seeing so much ice. Just like with the Rangers. He is doing a lot of good things. But he jsut seems to be unable to elevate when the moment calls for it. Hopefully for him with more time to get comfortable and after a full camp, next year he will click with the Kraken. But right now…Seattle isn’t a better team than they were before they got him. Fans are mostly happy that they have a guy with potential up front who can possess the puck and is solid off the puck most of the time and who is young, but has deep playoff run experience. So “delivering” may be an overstatement of what he has done in his short time out west here.

All that said, I'm fine with him remaining provided Dreary is able to address the centre ice gap. With Chytil out once again and Jbrod centering the 3rd line regardless of how well the Rangers do from here until the start of the POs, the Z, T, B as the top 3 centers is not a cup winning formula. CHytil of course is a significant jump up from Jbrod but it's time the organization stop counting on him. He should be moved to wing where is frequent absences are less impactful.

E: I suppose some are proposing Miller get 'thrown away' but I'm not one of them. Yes, I've mused about moving him for a couple of years now but that's because 1) He should fetch a fine return - re a young top 6 centre 2) A young top 6 centre is desperately needed organizationally moreso that what Miller brings 3) IMO what you see is what you get from Miller which is a guy with tons of physical attributes that aren't coming together as they should/might due to a hockey IQ that is somewhat suspect. Trade high in other words, especially if he's going to DEMAND a lucrative long term deal this summer.

I want to keep Miller. But might his $ demands cause it to happen? We'll have to see...

Miller I find is unlikely to be moved unless they have to put him in a deal in order to make it happen. I just think hes shown so much raw talent and effectiveness that youd be a fool to move him along unless the return is exceptional. Drury has already run out of vouchers on questionable trades. There is a high liklihood that Key will be thriving in another place for years. And with Kakko getting a chance to perform and delivering in Seattle? At least with Kakko he has always disappointed. With Miller? He has shown so much already that throwing him away just seems like foolish to me.

Hospo…I am not sure why people assume Borgen is gone….He is exactly what we need…Sign him….Schneder a keeper and Fox isn’t going anywhere…

CM - Excluding that one brain fart, MILLER has played two really good games in a row, logging big minute against good opponents..I still think there is tremendous upside there and want to keep him...Keep playing him out the yin yang and working with him,....And yes, they played a decent game, but going forward for the POs or even next year, the DEFENSE IS A MESS....This is not a D to win PO hockey....and then, thinking about the future, BORGEN a UFA, LINDGREN injury prone and, my bet, not a future Ranger..The Finnish guy is just blah..So much depends on the improvemtn of Schneider and Miller AND trading for (or signing UFA) solid D-men

Andrei…Nobody has been criticizing Fox?…Are you kidding me?…Miller’s troubles have nothing to do with his partners….He has earned his criticism on his own….Announcers and postgame praised Z’s game last night…Of course you have nothing but criticism…The penalty on Z was for a tap on the shin pad that was not something you ever see called…The fans were booing the call…

Andrei- I thought the same thing about Z, but he was kind of handcuffed by that play. Other than a few mistakes I thought he Z played a pretty solid game and appears to be snapping out of the funk. I'm sure he got booed, but I think a lot of fans are pulling for him to come back to the Mika of just a year and a half ago.

Andrei- Miller was solid last night, a good bounce back game. I think the problem is when he messes up, he really messes up.The comparison of the Fox giveaway is kind of like Panarin. Those two guys usually are contributing offensively. Gretzky had more give-aways than any player int he NHL when he played, but he outproduced his mistakes. Until recently Fox was playing like crap and he was gettign called out here. A lot. But Miller has not contributed much this year, so when he screws up the casual fan only sees the negative. My wife is a lifelong hockey fan and she can't stand his play. She thinks he's lazy. However, Limbo suggetsed trading Miller. We've already traded Trouba, I don't see how you trade Miller for a guy like Pinto. Robbing Peter to Pay Paul. That leaves our D with Fox, Schneider, ufa Lindgrem, Ufa Borgen, RFA Vaak, RFA Jones, I guess Mancini? I just don't see how you do that when D-men are harder to find and especially one with size and speed of Miller. Still hoping he gets more mental maturity as he grows up, but we might just have to accept the hockey IQ as is. IF that's the case I hope he brings more of an all-around game and provides some offense.

Borgen looks like a good partner for Miller. Maybe the best one he has had. OTOH, the 3rd pair…..woof. Schneider being suck with Vaal when it could be Jones…….woof. They competed last night. They look to be coming out of the funk. We’ll see. Nice to see Carrick rewarded. He has been real good this year.

Was at the game last night. My kid absolutely loved it. OT goal was sick. Thought MSG would explode. Best game in month for a simple reason, they played hard all 4 periods. From the start to the end. Something that could not say all season long. Said few games back when Rangers started doing little things that needs to be done in order to win games, even if they were not getting wins. Getting puck deep, cutting down on turnovers, back checking, etc. Absolutely love Borgen's game. Simple, no-nonce, very physical and most importantly, he is not getting rattle down, will take the hit to protect the puck and then then make simple play to get the puck out. Even his passing is solid. Overall, a solid 2nd pair d-man, that might be just settling down into that role. Right age, 28. Interesting stat, saw it on X. Miller and Borgen have being on the ice for 119 shot attempts for and 105 shot attempts against for a +14 in just 11.7 minutes. Only better pair this season, Fox and Miller for +122. Good to see Miller settling down once he found a partner he can play with that matches his style. Maybe, just maybe, Drury and his scouting team know something. Rempe. You can see how team plays differently when his on ice. MSG crowd absolutely loves Rempe. Kid skated with a huge smile. Played smart game and was very effective. That's what he needs to do. Stop with stupid unnecessary hits and play smart game. Again, you can't teach size. Good to see twin towers on the line and almost importantly, line is effective. Carrick signing was excellent move by Drury, for only $1 mil per. Very underrated player. Will take him over Goodrow any day. Speaking of turnovers, I think it was in the 2nd, Fox committed a terrble turn over in front of the net that almost went in and Sheti made a good save on. Just can imagine how much grief Miller would have gotten, if that was him and goal was scored. PP shift that ZShit single handily tried to give Devils a goal, which they almost scored on the breakaway, and then he took the penalty. Man.. crowed booed him hard. Not sure if that translated on TV. On another note, Vaakanainen had a good game as well.

Rhet: Agree on Kaliyev. I didn’t know what to expect since he hasn’t played much. But he was engaged. He didn’t back down at all. Skated hard. And he has a hell of a shot. I can’t remember many, but there was a play, maybe in the 3rd period? Where the puck came to him along the right wing boards, and he just fired it. It wasn’t a great angle and it was a ways out, but the puck jsut exploded off his stick and I beleive it hit the outside of the net, but it then hit the e end boards and still had the power to end around hash marks but on the left wing boards. Thats a lot of force on a shot that was not off a one timer a guy was set up for getting a smith pass. And he didn’t hesitate. He just fired it at the net. I don’t know if it’s because he jsut shoots and other followed along or if it would have happened anyway, but in the third period everything went to the net. Guys were shooting the puck a lot more than usual.

RF4L - haha, gotcha, my bad! Should have said “will try to be clever”. In his defense, I ALWAYS try to be clever wherever I post. Sometimes it works, sometimes…you KAKKO yourself, lol.

And I do understand the issues, concerns and Challenges with Rempe but also want to give him a bunch more games to see if he can adjust his game and mind to his new reality....And I think the rangers have that time for the 4th line....Besides, look how well the Rangers played last night with REMPE inserted.....The same thing happened last year for a good run.....Hell, I don't care if is coincidence or if he's just a rabbit's foot, I keep him in for a bit!!

Honestly, I dpn't think he is anything more than a 4th D-man but I have come to like BORGEN..by far the toughest, nastiest and most physical D-man the Rangers have...They need him (or somebody like him) desperately (now, Vaakainen is another story)..That said, given his UFA status, lowish ceiling and KK's potential (and the way he played with Cuylle and CHYTL) i still hate that DRURY and Laviolette pissed him away...but i need to disconnect the two when judging BORGEN's game...................

TD - RE: KK trade results…I’m not sure what to make of DRURY and BORGEN. If it were me, I’m getting back what I can, all day, every day. But I am having a hard time understanding how DRURY thinks about it, and what he will ultimately do. So, I’ll just go over some possibilities. 1) trade for futures. Self explanatory. 2) depends on other moves. Say we move MILLER for a young C, like a PINTO, and 2nd. We will need bodies. And this kid is a body. Maybe we sign him, maybe we won’t. Would suck balls big time if we just lost him for a few insignificant games to get us to the playoffs and we get bounced in 5. 3) CD just likes the guy and will sign him regardless . I know he’s a UFA, but he’s only 28 and doesn’t have a lot of miles on those treads.

RF4L/TD - just for kicks, I’ll semi-agree with you on DRURY and the TDL, but with a different angle. I agree he may get some rentals at the TDL, BUT, not for players/futures. I can see him getting some depth pieces purely on the other asset he has to play with - cap space. As we have historically seen, a 2nd or 3rd if worth 3-5 mil in cap space. I think DRURY gets clever and converts that to one or more of the “typical” player than may go for a 2 or a 3. A BORGEN and/or a VATRANO, etc. Plus, as we have seen, DRURY is ready to move on from this core. He just is. It’s only a matter of time. How LINDY is still on this team is nuts to me, but I still think he goes, even if we are in a race for the WC. KREIDER is almost assuredly gone as well. If he gets a young D back, that guy + vet rentals from cap space - there is your LINDY replacement(s) for any WC drive.

In regard to Arthur Kaliyev: We have to keep in mind that this dude hasn't played all year. First he was out with an injury, he then went down for 5 days of reconditioning and then he got waived. Add to it a new team/new system, I thought he did pretty well for his first game back. Small sample size though.

And good job on Dreary with the Carrick signing. He's been quite good. Him along with Quick and Trocheck are Dreary's 3 best moves in 4 years.

I, too, believe that if the Rangers continue to turn things around and by the deadline are in a PO wildcard fight, Dreary won't trade any of the current roster away and likely, will send more futures away for ineffective rentals. That said, improved team play all around will serve to rise the value of the individual players meaning it's quite possible Lindgren could land a late first and Borgen a 2nd. Of course, with Dreary at that helm that's not likely to happen although it'll be the first time he's trading from that perspective so who knows?

TD: I don't disagree. Pretty funny that how badly the Rangers lose this trade is dependent on Borgen's fate. He's settled in pretty nicely after a rough start which is understandable when you consider everyone was struggling but there's a good chance he'll run away this summer. That would mean Dreary landed a 3rd and a 6th for KK which is another lopsided trade, something that nob is quite experienced at.

And on that point, like I said...if the Rangers are challenging for a playoff spot, they're not gonna sell any of those guys. And by challenging, I really mean if there's any chance they make the playoffs. If they're six out from the last wildcard spot at the deadline? They will not sell...if they do sell? I think you have to tap the brakes on expectations...VESEY will get you a fifth rounder. LINDGREN? Probably a third. SMITTY Jr. might get you a third and a fourth. Or a B-prospect. BORGEN same as LINDGREN. I don't see any of those guys getting you into the second round. To get into the first round? We're going to need to part with someone like SCHNEIDER or TROCHECK. KREIDER maybe. Unfortunately, there aren't many Chris DRURYs serving as GMs in this league...but like mentioned, I strongly doubt the Rangers will be sellers unless the bottom really drops out...These past three games or so, the team really is showing signs of life. Unless the patient is DOA, rigormortis has set in and there is a small colony of maggots doing their thing, expect this team to make moves that build, not tear down.

At the time I thought letting Miccola (sp.) go was a dumb move. Given a reasonable price I have the same feeling regarding Borgan.

RF4L - Let's look at it another way: The Rangers have Will BORGEN in the lineup. The Kraken have KAKKO in their lineup. KAKKO is playing nearly as many minutes as BORGEN, who is a defenseman. KAKKO is an RFA and will be with Seattle next season. BORGEN is a UFA and will NOT be with the Rangers next season...and if they get closer to the playoffs? They won't move him at the deadline...Which team is better off?! There are only two possible ways the Rangers win this trade: First is if they miraculously land a CUYLLE-type with the third and sixth rounders they got in this year's draft. Second, is if they can parlay BORGEN into something. As of now, the Kraken have already won the trade, because they have a better team. The Rangers, OTOH, do not.

Simply CAN'T criticize a come-from-behind win against the Devils. There were some things I didn't like too much, but the approach was right. The patient had a pulse. The Devils probably thought what I did, which was that they were going to steamroll this team...but the truth is, the Devils just aren't that good of a team...Unless, of course, you're listening to their broadcast, in which case they are the best team ever in the history of sports...CARRICK-SMITTY Jr. out on OT? Shocked?! Yep. But hopefully this schmuck learned a valuable lesson about OT and fresh legs. KEEFE easily played HUGHES four minutes out of the final five of the game, and as folks here noted, the whole OT period. In fact, that dude had a master class in poor bench management last night...LAVIOLETTE wasn't that great either, but he was miles better than his opponent...to play the HUGHES brothers 25 minutes in that game...especially defensive sinkhole Luke...re: REMPE, I think that was the best NHL game I saw that guy play. He PLAYED. He didn't just go around blasting people. He was physical, but also used his speed. He looked like a hockey player last night, and not a goon. I was a bit disappointed with his ice...my usual target...Will BORGEN...also played well. Seems to be settling in. Still not sold on him being part of the blueline, but he played well last night and was deserving of his ice...KALIYEV...I mean, first game is the first game...He made a very nice stretch pass that lead to a scoring chance. Looked OK, but if that's how he's going to be used, I wouldn't expect much. He's not a playmaker. He's not all that physical. Where he needs to be is around the dots setting up for a shot. You're not going to get much of that with BRODZINSKI as your center and playing 8 minutes a night...and MILLER. While I still think playing too many minutes is bad overall, good on LAVIOLETTE for getting him back out there and making him an important part of the win. Contrary to popular fan belief, he is a very good player and a valuable part of the team. I wouldn't want to pay him $6 million-plus at this point, but I also wouldn't want him traded. Fully disagree with the idea that he's easily replaceable now or in the foreseeable future...Was also good to see the Rangers playing more structured...still not great...but the thought that went through my mind last night was that the patient has a pulse!

Hospo Rempe has to use his head but just threat of him smashing someone can effect the opposition . Intimidation is the name of his game.

The dust might have settled…”The victory continued what’s an admittedly small stretch in which the Rangers are 3-1-1 after losing four in a row late last month.”…. Saving management’s asses…. But they remain asses…

PJ - I am not gonna bag on REMPs for tonuight..1st game back and basically learning to play a new way..a little lost defensively but that chasing of HUghes, which he shouldn't be expected to do, was more on the Rangers system or lack of one in the D zone,,,..ANyways, Hopefully he can feel comfortable nd play smarter...And then there's the 3rd line, or lack of one..Need CHYTL and KREIDER back big time

Love Rempe but he was holding up on every attempted hit or rolling off the hit before completing it…We all know why as he is being targeted by the league but at this point in his career it makes him worthless…In the defensive zone he looks totally lost to me. The line was more effective with Vesey on it…

Rempe almost 8 minutes ...kalev debut about the same nice job lavy.. oh well they won ....miller 24 minutes nice !!!

Lindgren should (must) fetch a low first if he's traded. And he should if the Rangers decide they can't afford his next contract.

Borgen the few times I saw him (on Barfalo?) always stood out for me because of his physical play. Definitely worth a 2nd at the deadline if that's where Dreary goes.

Ok so they lose 2 out of 3......not beating vegas..lololol shocked and thrilled beating the dam Debbies.....Miller my MAN and who started playing D when we was about 17.. takes awhile to develop D as it is.. mancini, Schneider, miller.....borgen ???, halfway there?????

Hospo........great point he needs a running buddy ...we don't have one right now. maybe management will solove that .oh, wait ,what am I thinking .

NEWFIE - Nah, we need the hate! I feel the same way about the Bruins, Flyers and certain players..and the HUghes pukes surely have risen close to the top

NEWFIE - I think he can..enough to be a 20-25 goal scorer..but i think he needs a running/banging mate that plays the same type of game for him to be most effective...not a Reilly Smith/ZBad or Both CHYTL/Berard (one is fine)..JMWO

Rhet.......re matthews , yea in his head maybe ...........some of the Leafs core have a VERY high opinion of themselves.....Matthews, Nylander and ofcourse my favorite little buddy Ms Marner !!!! I'm always wondering if it is possible to hate the Leafs more than I love the Rangers........it's something I'll have to fight through.....maybe there is a support group for this ?........LOL

Hospo....many ,many , many posts ago when we were discusing how we both loved this kid, one of my main concerns was that he couldn't finish....... he is starting to do everything else so well..........surely he will lean to score ...let's hope so :)

JAKE - You re right on BORGEN..Not a fan of the trade and that colors my view sometimes..but he does play tougher and meaner then any Ranger D-man, and every shift

PJ - You and me both! But we take what we can get with Hughers..Hopefully later in the season!!...ANd, yeah, your boy MILLER was pretty good tonight...:)

Is it just me, or does Austin Matthews look like he's putting on some girth this season?

The Golden Knights are the hottest/best team in the NHL right now. If we go 2-1 on that West Coast road swing, I'll be very happy.

I would rather Hughes be eating through a straw for the next six weeks but losing the game for his team will have to do…..Give Laviolette credit for having Miller out there with a minute left in regulation and again to start the OT…I admit I was yelling no but I am a hysterical fan….

Encouraging for sure. Let's see how the Showers and Aves matches go. They come away with 2 points minimum and that's acceptable

Best game of the year for sure….Good D against a strong offensive team….Many great chances for the Rangers and Carrick in OT is awesome…Love that guy….Fox, Z, Panarin, Lindgren, Miller all strong games….The Tro line stops the extra pass and they will take off for rest of season…

CNP - Long time to go until thinking about that....I still love CUYLLe's effort, but is he gonna score another goal this year? He had found his zone on a cycling, possessing line which the Rangers need to find again for the team and him to really be successful

Team structure was pretty good in this one, and while I thought the coaches were dead, the RANGERS are resembling a team again. Sneak into the POs and I’m sure no team will want to face them as a 7 or 8 seed.

Stiill..1 Baby Step up..Won't mean anything if they do t the usual 2 steps back against Vegas? MILLER with anoither good game and no brain fart!

Lindgren has also been playing well last few games! What a great block him made sliding out to stop a Devils Grade A chance!

Four points out of a playoff spot. 2 games in hand on PITT and 1 game in hand on Columbus.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH ....JACK HUGHES ! Sam won't sleep tonight........... :(......LOL

I was thinking they were gonns lose in a Shootout..and mainly because they got outgoalied......Carrick on the ice with 40 secs left and in OT..Rather have him be Laviolette's pet than BRODZ!

Rangers weathered the first Devils push in the 3rd and then took over! They showed a lot of heart and skill!

SMITH has been playing really well the past few games and CARRICK has been looking like a steal this season.

Jack Hughes- felt like he never left the ice. Love to see him cough up the puck for the game winner. Markstrom deserved the 3rd star. Kudos to Lavi playing Carrick in OT!

Lololol. I was ripping Lardiolette for putting out Smith and Carrick. Lolol. He's a brilliant coach. What a strategist!!

Holy fuckin shit!!! CARRRIICCKKKK!!!...with the assisyt to Jack Fuckin Hughes!!!! Take That Nosendick!!!

Wow, Carrick and Edstrom on the ice with 40 secs left in a 2-2 game..Fat ass has confidence in them

Credit where due- strong defensive play by Miller there. Agree on Lindgren. And Fox looks like Fox. Can’t complain about any of our D this game. And Z looks like a different player.

How does a massive oak tree like REMPE get taking down and no one sees it? Did the bear shat in the woods too?

HOSPO- Dan Muse, maybe? He’s the Assistant Coach that came from the National team- coached Perrault and Fortescue

Who is that Nosferatru looking character standing next t Laviolette on the bench??

Our guys in the booth talk more about Hughes and his family than the Devils broadcast team do...what's up with that ?.....and it's EVERY game !

Hung in there and even going into the 3rd is good...but...but damn are the Rangers a mess in their defensive zone at ES, and that means all six players with Zero communication..That has gotta change, if not this game sometiem in the future

A little worried about Shesterkin, he’s down early and doesn’t seem confident in where the puck is.

What is it with this team? The more millions they get paid the more they shit the bed

another stupid play .. this time Cuylle.. good work get the puck out.. and then fancy pants move instead of shooting it in ,. TO and bam in your net ..

Another stupid play by the Rangers..God I hte the fucking smile on Hughes' face ..it's gotta be permanently changed..maybe some other team can do it

Semi-solid period..Things they need to do this period..Couter the Devils push..and fucking maim Hughes,,,,I don't care which one

Devils coming on at end of period….Need to get forecheck back…..Tro line overpassing and missing great chances to shoot….Not what they did last year..

Nosendick are so bad. They were rambling on with BB when the too many men penalty was announced over the PA. Then Sam misses the net off. Calls it a hand pass. Geesh.

It’s lardass and his buddy houseless who are scratching Casey jones. DD drury is the guy that hired them.

After the game in New Jersey, the Rangers need to come out and get in the face of every one of these punks that not only beat them on the scoreboard, but made them look weak like wimps in the game in New Jersey. I’m sure that’s why Rempe is in the lineup

Yeah, we all agree on JONES. Only place I don't agree is that he's gonna get traded soon. And if not, waived. And he'll go to another team and have a successful career...I never had an issue with HAJEK. Thought he was a good, serviceably fifth/sixth defenseman. JONES is better. Definitely top-4 material. Reminds me a lot of Sam GIRARD on the Avalanche. Or Tyson BARRIE. Anyway, solid NHLer. And another scalp for DRURY'S wall.

I could see if JONES earned the benching and demotions this year, but he didn't..And the teaam could use his puck movign at ES...He just isn't a Drury boy like the puss Vaakannin and Borgen..This team is double standards run amok....There is zero way the locker Room can ever come together Under Dip shit and Lard Ass...I hope I'm wrong

Rhet. Agreed. They did the same inexplicable thing to Hajek essentially ruining his career. If Jones doesn't escape the asylum soon he's career will be over too.

In regard to ZAC JONES: It's really disgusting what Management(IE. Drury) has done to this kid. All he said was that he wants to/needs to play. He NEVER asked to be traded. He's not going to get better by constantly being glued to the bench. This is doing nothing to convince anyone on the outside that there isn't a toxic work environment on Broadway. I will also say that he is better than either Borgen or Vaakanainen. Vaakanainen for example, made a huge gaff the other day that if Jones had done it, he never would've gotten back in the lineup. Still, the kid can't get a sniff in the lineup.... Anyone want to guess who our best defensive pairing has been all season? Jones and Schneider.... and yet the kid can't get a sniff in the lineup. Make it make sense.

Love to see EDSTROM do some heavy lifting for REMPS tonights so the kid can just try and play...Also curious about the lineup...Brodz to 3r C and AK to Top 6 W? It's the least amount of moving pieces bu AK stepping in to Top 6 ???.....Otherwise, Brodz stay where he is and maybe Cuylle slides to C with AK on 3rd line or Carrick moves up (Remps at 4th C)...Know soon enough

Vesey and say it ain’t so Casey jones are scratched and Shazam is starting. Rempe and the new guy are in .

BTW: FIL was back on the ice, skating by himself this morning before the optional.

GLAD to see that IGOR will be back tonight. Rempe and Kaliyev in, Vesey a healthy scratch.

Gene - Yep, make the plan and go for it...middle of the road morass of mediocrity is not the way to go..I guess If I was like one of the younger whipper-snappers on here (are there any?? :)..We are pretty veteran squad here!!!) I would have more patience for a long rebuild..and yeah, anything over a 1-2 years is Long!!!

Hospo: Points well taken and both of these options are there. As Yogi in his wisdom stated when you come to a fork in the road take it.

I’ll take houseless’ scalp even with that Julius Caesar look if DD drury is sticking with barfarama lardass .his title is assistant coach. He’s an accomplice to this crime. … tonight they will probably go to hell as usual.

TDCHI - "gutless lickspittle FuckFace McDotard"..I'm confused....is that Laviolette? Brooks? Drury? Quinn?

Libor Jones sitting for the 1011th straight game tonight. How to ruin a valuable asset 101 courtesy of the New York Rangers. Again.

Speaking of which, a friend told me today that gutless lickspittle FuckFace McDotard is now throwing Phil HOUSLEY under the bus for the Rangers' defensive failures. I ain't gonna try to find or link to his screed, but man. What a fucking idiot. HOUSELY might not be the best coach in the world but I'd take him over LAVIOLETTE any day of the week. He's at least closer to someone who knows the modern system.

E - LOL, I didn't take into consideration that they're just not EXECUTING 1-3-1...that may be the case...and if it is, that's even MORE of an indictment of LAVIOLETTE, because whatever their playing sure as shit doesn't LOOK like 1-3-1...but you may very well be correct. Like I said, what I see is three forwards going WAAAAAAAAY too deep all the time and a beleaguered defense that just backs right up into their own zone as soon as the rush comes the other way. If there's even the slightest attempt at a neutral zone trap, it's just a miserable attempt.

The thing about REMPE is that he's actually not nearly as dirty of a player as someone like TKACHUK or BENNETT. His SIZE is what gets him in the most trouble. And the shear force of a guy 6'9 and pushing 250...He needs to learn that he just can't take runs like those guys do...rather BENNETT...because he's almost always gonna hurt someone. I actually hardly ever see REMPE doing dirty shit after the whistle like the TKACHUKS and yes, BENNETT. But that's the thing. They do it? It's subtle. Refs can't be everywhere and a quick stick to the bean bag...man, the real dirtbags are surgical. They're in and out. But REMPE? Dude, they see him flying across the ice and drilling guys. They're going to call it EVERY. TIME. And I'll also say this: I bet almost anything than a ref has even said something similar. Like dude. Your big. You hurt people. And we're going to call it every time. Is it fair? Nope. But it's the fucking laws of physics. He's going to rattle someone a hell of a lot easier than a player 50 pounds lighter and five or six inches shorter...And now, because he spent the first 15 games or so throwing fists? He has a target on his back from players AND refs. Again, why I say he's a guy who should be in the AHL learning, not in the NHL where he feels compelled to drill guys.

I love REMPS but he is in a very, very difficult situation.......Some of it is his own doing (hits from behind) but alot of what he had no control over.. the NHL despises him for his popularity in the media/social media and why he has it and, IMWO, want him gone.....They will be watching him like a HAWK, looking for every chance to break him or run him out..or make it that the Rangers are afraid to use him (penalties, just or unjust)...Gonna be close to impossible for the kid to play his game (even the clean version of it) under those conditions.....I truly hope he can...WIlson and a few others have found a way..Hollweg and others never did....WIll be rooting for him big time

Wild…I agree on Rempe…Was watching Florida/Utah game last night and the shit Tkachuk gets away with is criminal….He spears someone in a scrum and nothing…Rempe spears somebody and he will play his next game in Siberia…

GENE_CARR - Actually, I totally disagree ..First off, look how well the rangers did during their last two quit and white flag seasons and rebuild/retool...three times a charm or three strikes and your out?...My bet is the latter... Buit say that is the way you want to go...Guys like IGOR, Panarin, FOX are totally useless in a tank/rebuild scenario...I just don't see it....but ......if any type of tank/rebuild/reset is embraced, keeping the coach and the same "leaders" and just playing out the string poorly to get a top 5 pick is a HUGE mistake IMWO....The kids have been regressing, or worse, being dealt....there is no leadership (TRO is trying)..there is no structure..there is no TEAM....All that stuff has to stop..not for the POs this year but for moving forward...It won't stop under Laviolette and this toxic, woe is me environment.....Only way to do it is to make changes at the top from Dipshit Drury (not happening until they miss the POs) to Fat Bastard to the top core....A change is needed behind the bench yesterday even if it is an internal option (Peca) that can be replaced in the off-season..and then you get back to the vets needingto be dealt, including the ones with the most value

LIMBO: Think about this regarding Rempe. The Rules in the AHL are the same as the NHL when it comes to hitting. Now go to the AHL and look how many times he has even had to face any supplemental discipline. Then look at how he plays. Wat you will find is that he plays the exact same way. Why is it that the NHL seems so happy to go after him? Especially when you see hits around the NHL that are as bad or worse and there is nothing at all. It's not all him. Every player who hits has the same issues. Part of the problem with him is that his elbows down are the height of many heads. Consider that the first time he got kicked out of a game, the NHL went out of their way to say that there was nothing to look at further on the hit. Basically, that the hit was not worthy of such a level of action and basically that the call on the ice was reactionary and not based on the hit but the outcome. If he was treated the same way as say, Bennett, then there would be few issues.

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TD: This team is trying to play a 1-3-1, but it’s clear they’re struggling to execute it properly. The system is supposed to be solid defensively and control the game by stifling the opposition in the neutral zone. Instead, they’re leaking chances and playing undisciplined hockey. I’ve long advocated for the Rangers to switch to a 1-2-2. While it doesn’t generate as much offensive pressure, it’s far more structured and reliable, especially for a team that lacks the discipline and physicality required to sustain a 1-3-1 over a full game. The issue with the 1-3-1 is that it demands positional awareness and near-perfect execution. When players pinch or break formation, the system becomes vulnerable to odd-man rushes, which we’ve seen far too often. On top of that, it’s exhausting for the forwards, who have to backcheck constantly to cover for these breakdowns. Over time, that frustration affects both their effort and their offensive output. In contrast, the 1-2-2 is a simpler, safer structure that plays to the strengths of a struggling team. It may not create the same offensive opportunities, but it provides a defensive foundation this team desperately needs right now. For the Rangers, soundness and stability in their system would likely lead to better results than trying to force a system they’re ill-suited to execute. I would like the team to play a bit more like Paul Maurice whose team plays a base 1-2-2 but he makes really good in game adjustments frequently and uses tons of set plays. But I knew what we’d get with Laviolette before he stepped behind the bench and I had no illusions that regardless of anything he’d stick to it. I mean I remember the bang up job he did as coach of Team USA with a bunch of defensively challenged blueline. He is stubborn and a true believer. I’m not suggesting he’s a bad coach. I think he’s had a lot of success. I’m just of the opinion that the system is archaic, hard to play, and I KNOW that this is not the kind of team suited to this style of play. So, I just think it’s square peg and round hole.

Couldn’t agree more G-Carr! Well said. Firing Drury and choosing another boat captain to lead that voyage would also be a major step in the right direction IMO.

This collection is not going to win a cup this year. I do not think they will even get a wild card berth. If they do it is not a good development. It is a one and out and a mid level pick that in all likelihood will not bring back the dominate center or D man badly needed. Sadly and painfully the best course of action is to keep the totally lost coach until the seasons end, taking a page out of the Penguins playbook and getting a top five pick that can put the ship on a more fruitful voyage.

On REMPE - the kid is in a tough spot. No doubt he is a marked man. No doubt some it was earned. No doubt that NHL refs and officials have 2, 3, even unlimited nu:ber of rule books when they make decisions (not just with this specific case - among others - goalie interference and goals off the foot are a complete inconsistent disaster). TBH - good checking practices should have been driven into this kid years ago. That fact that we are even here, I fear it may be too late. It’s good that he is cognizant of the issue. The problem is that now, instead of making the quick, instinctive, correct decision, that years of hockey and coaching should have buttressed…we get a young kid THINKING out there. Not good. IMO, there is just not enough time to come to reasoned, rational decision. The game is way too fast. These guys need to react in an instant. I have a bad feeling this will effectively neuter the main things that this kid brings - physicality and aggression. That said, I don’t think he has a choice but to go this route. His next transgression will be for like half the year. After that, a full outright NHL ban may be on the table.

“I don’t have to make every hit, if that makes sense,” Rempe said after the Rangers practiced in Tarrytown before their game against New Jersey at the Garden on Thursday. “Like, only make them if I know they’re gonna be a clean hit and a good hit compared to like, if it’s any way in doubt, I feel like I would err on the side of caution for now because, like I said, I’m a marked man right now.”

Here's a thought..OK, a few...Ya know, I gave Edstrom grief earlier in the season because i thought he was playing a pretty lame and weak game...ANyways, for whatever reason, I think he has been a different player the last 4-5 games...And then seeing his speed the other night beating the opposition to the puck and thinking about the Rangers lack of center depth with an injury to CHYTL...and that Edstrom dwas a C most of his career, well maybe he can be more than a do no harm 4th line winger?? I have no idea why the Rangers didn't committ to him as a Center this past off-season...but better late then never..OTOH, I am not a HOF coach or GM! Just a fan

Speaking of natural centers moved to wing...and then moved back to center...JT MILLER. The dude is a fiery competitor. Simple as that. Rubs some folks the wrong way. Others find it an asset. The idea that he's some lockeroom cancer is silly. He had his issues in New York...sure...but the idea he was a problem in Tampa is stupid. He was traded because they couldn't afford him and wrongly judged his ceiling...nevertheless, I still have an extremely hard time believing that the Canucks are interested in moving him for anything short of a haul. I also have a hard time believing that the Rangers are doggedly pursuing him over the span of years...I think if DRURY really wanted him, he would've traded for him before Bo HORVAT was moved...though I do seem to recall some weak rumors about that back then too.

re: TURCOTTE, the reason he's playing wing is because the Kings have DANAULT-KOPITAR-BYFIELD down the middle. If he remains a King...and I have no reason to believe he won't...I would wager a fair amount that he moves back to the middle once KOPI retires or DANAULT's contract expires. Easy to move a center back to the middle from wing. It's the other way around that doesn't work. TURCOTTE has been a center his whole career, really right up until this year. He was moved to wing to get him ice...Oh and another strange thing about him? The Kings are...and I know this is CRAY CRAY...PLAYING HIM ON THEIR TOP LINE. Like nuts. Playing a high draft pick like that anywhere other than sparingly on the third line...

Shane PINTO? Meh? I mean, he's been very underwhelming and often injured. And let's not forget the fact that he was forced to sit out half a season for being an idiot. I used to like the kid. And he IS very talented. But if you're swapping out CHYTIL for PINTO, you're rearranging deckchairs on the Titanic. In fact, he's a downgrade, TBH...You know the center who would look pretty good on third line? A dude named Brett HOWDEN...I can roll out my usual name too...Luke KUNIN...another easy tactic would be to flip CHYTIL and TROCHECK, if, in fact, CHYTIL isn't done...Few may remember, but TROCHECK was actually the third-line center to start last season. He was centering WHEELER and CUYLLE I believe. Then CHYTIL got injured and every thing changed.

JFC. Agree on miller and trade clauses. Maybe to get the cap hit down a bit you give him a 5 team NTC. That seems rather common around the nhl. But nothing beyond that. And don’t have it start until year 2 or 3 depending on length of deal. That way he will be driven to play his best the first couple years to avoid the worst…then after that he still faces being traded but with a bit less risk.

E - I wholly disagree. This team is playing nothing like they did last season. They are letting far more shots on a nightly basis. And if they are playing 1-3-1, they're doing an exceedingly bad job of it.

Just as a for-instance? Adam FOX is on pace to have two goals this season. TWO. That's three fewer than his rookie season and 15 fewer than last season. Why? Well for one, look at where he used to score goals. Not from the blueline, typically. But rather from around the slot and near the faceoff dots. He used to get the puck and drive deep to these areas, where he is absolutely lethal...well, he ain't doing that any more. I suppose you could say this MAY be residual from his knee injury...he has looked slower. But more likely? It's by design. They had 44 goals from defensemen last season. This year? They have 10, and are on pace to maybe...MAYBE...score 22. Think about that for a second. Is it a coincidence? Me thinks not. It's a change in the way they are being deployed.

Basically I see the same old boring 1-3-1. There biggest problem is something that was missing last season as well. They do not have a good mix on defense. A lot of 2-way guys always playing hero hockey and not enough "hold the line" defensive players. Specializing in shutting down the other teams forwards. You can have multiple skill guys. But you gotta set them up with the big nasties.

Hospo - That may be...they're a team of individuals...but I think the more likely culprit is that they're being deployed in a way that's not playing to their strengths. My theory is this: LAVIOLETTE didn't do anything radical with them last season, but rightfully didn't like how they were powerplay merchants. This season, he's trying to get them to generate more offense by holding the D back and having the forwards stay deep. But two problems with this...first is that DRURY ditched one of their best defensive forwards in GOODROW and second, that the defense is now stapled to the offensive blueline for the most part. And they're more or less on their own in the defensive zone, because there's always one and sometimes even two guys hanging real high. Whatever their playing seems like anti-trap hockey, meaning they freely give up the neutral zone and don't give a toss about zone entries. And I bet if you were a fly on the wall in LAVIOLETTE'S office, you'd hear him talk about how this design is aimed at developing the type of high-pressure offense that scores goals in a series like they played in Florida. I also wouldn't be surprised if he sold this idea on DRURY and that's why he's still coach...they don't need to win the president's trophy...they just need to make the post-season and do it using his concept...I also wouldn't be surprised if the players...accustomed to playing similar styles under GALLANT and QUINN and one season under LAVIOLETTE, are confused as fuck and struggling...You simply don't have a team that goes as far as these guys did one season and then have them flame out like they are this season. These guys are constantly lost and while confidence is one thing...the Rangers are on a whole different level right now. And not in a good way.

Feel just horrible for Chytil…Was really playing well…That said Rangers can’t count on him…Need to go in different direction…

In regard to Filip Chytil: I forget what it is that he has, but he also has something non-concussion related that has some of the same side effects as some post-concussion symptoms. For eg, if he has migraine headaches, they would not be 100% sure if they are his normal migraine headaches or if they are in relation to his history of concussions... So they keep him out to err on the side of caution ....in short: I think it's just the NYR's being overly cautious like last time with him(which is a good thing). Fingers crossed.

Jees I guess chytil goes on IR and they try for another center.....who knows so sad... Poor kid....I don't like soft players but he just does not appear to have the DNA.. jumping to conclusions which is useless.

So someone posted Chytl’s last shift on Reddit , I watched it in it’s entirety, he wasn’t touched on the entire shift, so must have occurred earlier in the game. Troublesome that he had no obvious hit that caused it, which makes me nervous.

And some get to pay for the ticket to see the barfarama, while others get to squirm in front of their TVs.

LardAss and the true state of the Rangers and Ranger fans on the Wall and everywhere.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FX1ggVBXG5w

And the winner is….. https://nypost.com/2025/01/07/sports/the-posts-larry-brooks-earns-prestigious-new-york-sports-media-award/

andrei: Yes I've mused about trading Miller for a while now because (as I've said numerous times) while the physical tools are there in abundance, I worry about his hockey IQ not matching them. His troubles on the ice this year have only strengthened my concerns and those troubles are so frequent and glaring that the value he might have had when I first started posting about trading him has surely plummeted.

So, with CHTYL likely out does Krispy Kreme Kreampuff Kavileyv become a 2nd line W (too funny)and Johnny Brodz centers a hodge podge mish mash line with Cuylle and Berard?...Or does Brodz stay with the "2nd line" (funny also)......Carrick plays with CUylle (I like that for now) and the Human Buzz Saw.....And,,dum,dum,dum, REMPE in at C between Edstrom and Vesey? .....Good to be so unsettled agasint the Devils and Vegas!!...With injuries, just Fall Back on the System and structure like a good, well coached team (Hah!)

Oh, and as for K’Andre Miller and Drury’s approach to his next contract…I would not offer a no-trade contract or if he does, let it kick in only in a few years so if he doesn’t get his shit together he can be traded. AAMOF, if NHL GM’s don’t smarten up and STOP giving out NMC’s after seeing how they end up hamstringing them, then they are hopelessly stupid.

What about Pinto from Ottawa? He’s not doing great this season so he should be undervalued. We have to get a replacement for Chytil, he’s not gonna last very long…his whole career has been stops & starts and every time he starts getting sharp and dominating, he gets hurt and has to start all over again. We can’t keep doing this…

Give miller a sign and drive to whoever wants him. The problem is can the gm get value in return while holding his ankles and opening his vest to bend over. He was right in dying his hair blonde. Maybe drury should send out another memo for each player like chum and see what bites he gets.

And as for the other Miller…JT…he has everything the Rangers need but he has always been a problem child and I’m not sure why…but, he always seems to have locker room drama. But, I also heard someone (maybe Brian Boyle) talk about him and say he’s a GREAT locker room guy with a great sense of humor and that he is indeed everything the Rangers need. But, yeah, giving up a kid like Schneider AND Zibanejad? I think we need DEFENSE more than we need offense right now. Still think something huge is gonna happen soon…multiple moves or maybe a 3-team blockbuster

It really is pathetic that this team is four points out of the last wild card spot with a game at hand.

I like Miller…think he’s loaded with talent and he’s still young. If he gets his shit together he can be an absolute star. But, I gotta say that I was very concerned when he missed games because he needed a mental break or something along those lines. We never got a explanation….did he have a death in the family, family illness, did he break up with his girlfriend? The fact that we got no explanation tells me that the explanation would probably not be taken well…and yeah, that gives me pause.

TDCHI - Exactly. The individual players aren't the main problem..The problem is why are so many proven and/or solid NHLers, young and old, sucking and sucking for extended periods of time and often in unison?..It's above the individuals....To me, this team, while not quitting, is not a team but just a collection of individuals that have no team concept, structure or identity to fall back on....You can see that in the constant helter-skelter and mindless defensive play by both the D and forwards.....Yeah, the offense is perking up a little but that's the easy part and it's mainly individual efforts not a team wide commitment to a game or style..Until you get that, nothing really matters and players (existing or ones traded for) are gonna continue to look like shit..if they still do when you fix the "Team", that's where you have the problemm

I think right now there is just one center the Rangers should be looking at who may be available and won't be overpriced as badly as others. I know Elias Pettersson's name is out there, but already the rumored askes are ridiculous. For the Rangers it would be something like Zib, Laf, Perreault, Othmann, a first and a second and possible more or some stupidity like that. Even if you remove Zib you just remove the 2nd and Othmann. They are asking the moon sun and stars because he is the top guy our there. SO the guy I say to target and try to jump on first is DYLAN COZENS. Yes, he is still rough around the edges, needs faceoff work and such. But he would at this time slide in nicely on the "3rd line" spot for the Rangers. I know his cap hit is up there, but as the cap goes up it will be average or even low if he turns the corner everyone expects him to. I know his name has popped up in rumor mills, and he will be expensive, but a step below that of the top guy out in VAN.

It is not that players make mistakes.. they all do .. it is some repeat without consequences while others are pressboxed.. we all can relate to a work situation in which certain employee's get favourable treatment and others get shit on for anything .... leads to low morale and internal conflicts....aka Ranger locker room

CM, sort of in the same boat. But Miller does have high celling. Hate to give it up on it. Willing to give him a shot with the a new coach and a better defensive system. Most d-man don't show full potential till they hit their prime. This is why you contently see huge improvements in certain d-man when they hit 26-28 age mark.

Andrei- lol, you posted while I was typing. Bridge deal would be the smart move for all, probably. But if they can get him for $5M a year on a 6-8 deal that would be great for the Rangers, if the guy ever gtes his act together!

Andrei- I agree that there is no way they are going to trade Miller and they shouldn't. Unless we get back a young stud defender, but the potential is just too great to give up on. The only good thing about his terrible play in a contract year is hopefully he will sign a bridge or a much smaller cap hit than expected on a long term deal. I am sure his agent will argue for a bridge to give him a chance to increase his value. Laff stepped up last year. Kakko stalled and became trade bait (grr. Still pissed!) and Miller, who knows!

Rhet, saw that as well. It could be the reason to trade him, for sure, but just don't see teams lining up to offer $6 mil long term contract. Miller just might end up settling for a bridge deal. I would, if I were him.

Last week I mentioned that the NYR's turned down a deal for JT Miller because the Canucks wanted both Z and Schneider(the NYR's initial offer was Z straight up). The NYR's aren't willing to part with Schneider. Friedman verified yesterday that this was indeed the case.... IMO, the team needs to move on from JT Miller(too rich for our blood). We desperately need a defensive partner for Fox.

I've been pretty pro-Miller and defended his low hockey IQ in the hopes that he would pull it together. But I really can't think of too much he has provided this year. Yeah, the whole team is crap, and the blame for that can be argued ad nasueum, however what has Miller brought to the table> I can't think of many times where he has provided any threat on offense, which makes his gaffes that much more annoying. We can bitch about Panarin's defensive lapses, but the guy contributes offensively on a regular basis even when the rest of the team isn't firing on all cylinders. When he is bad, he is a turnover machine, but you know he'll eventually pop off a 3 point game. I can't think of a time I have been confident that Miller on the ice could lead to anything good lately. I just can't. Will he score? Nah. Will he make an amazing pass? Nah. Will he hit someone? Hah! Will he play solid defense? Maybe. Will other teams avoid him because he is annoying to play against? Nah. Will he use his size? Never. Will he skate back when he gets caught up ice? Maybe when he isn't waving his magic want and being lazy. My wife doesn't hate many players, but she absolutely hates K'Andre. She just doesn't see why he is in the lineup. I try and push the size, speed, athletic ability and potential. She'll have none of it. I can't say I am winning that argument anymore!

rf4L, you wanted to trade Miller for year. o that's that. Regardless how well, or bad he plays, you want him gone. I get it. He is not your type of a player. BTW, Turkotte is no longer a center. There are zero reasons to trade for him. He plays wing and really needs a high quality playmaking center to get him the puck. That's' how Turkotte actually can contribute in NHL. As a center he is liability. Rangers don't need another winger.

K'Andre Miller has reportedly been seeking a contract in the mid-sixes ($6.25-6.65?) to sign a long term deal. The NYR's plan was originally to get both Miller and Lafreniere signed long term this season. The team reportedly balked at the asking price.

It was Chytil who eventually gave Borgen his stick…As they were making the exchange the goal was scored….Communication seems to be very poor and not sure why…

RF4L - I'd do that, for sure. And honestly? I think LA would do that...But you also know my feelings about TURCOTTE...and I have a very distinct feeling that the Rangers aren't nearly as down on MILLER as the fans are.

re: JONES - what a fucking shame. That likely means he's about to get waived and lost for nothing. He's a good defenseman. A very good defenseman. The Rangers SHOULD...if they had a competent GM...be able to make a hockey trade. But alas. We are here. Incompetent GM. Incompetent coach. Free-for-all on the ice. The bummer is that the point they got last night moves them one step closer to the middle of the pack when it comes to the draft and farther away from the guy they really need organizationally...here's to hoping someone with a brain in that organization realizes this season is lost and starts selling off whatever they got. At least give the mush-melon jerkoff in the front office some picks to deal with this spring.

The other thing fans seem to be ignoring with this MILLER fury is that the GTG was just one of five. Mistakes were made on ALL five. The Rangers had moments of playing well. I thought the second period was played pretty decent...but the bottom line is they STILL needed QUICK to save their ass. Dude, if DOMINGUE was in net? That game would've been over before it started. Just so happened they had an ageless future HOFer in between the pipes. And like I said last night, I guarantee fatigue played a role. That lazy stupid penalty from PANARIN, for instance...point is, without structure. Without the team buying into defense...this is what you're going to get. We have guys that are basically holding their dicks in their hands waiting for the puck to squirt loose...I mean, not for nothing, a GREAT example was when BORGEN'S stick broke, and NONE of the forwards flinched to had him a new one. Dudes just not paying ANY attention to what's going on...AND THAT WAS THE FOURTH LINE! The most defensively responsible of all lines. They give up the zone easily and once they do, they've got no structure to get the puck out. Just a fucking free-for-all. I keep waiting for the day that they implement zone D or man-on-man...but I have a feeling I'll be waiting until we have a new coach...I said it last week and will say it again: It's hilarious that even a casual observer can watch a bunch of 17, 18, and 19 year old players...many of whom have never really played with more than a few others on the team...skating in the World Juniors and playing a more structured defense...and system in general...than the Rangers. It's laughable. And it's a true indictment of the coach and his minions.

Given what I can discern of Miller (which I readily admit is pure opinion) I suspect regardless of how this season plays out for him, he'll be looking for a significant raise this summer something that if his play continues as is, he won't be worth. An impasse could be in the cards, in other words. Too bad Dreary likes to trade horses for bales of hay - despite his struggles he'd likely still fetch a strong return. With the right GM in place. Another Chytil head injury emphasizes the need to find another young top 9 centre.

Jones and Mancini would be an improvement over Miller…One poor game and they get taken out of the lineup…Miller doesn’t miss a shift no matter what he does….This was a simple play last night with two minutes left in the game….He skated himself into trouble…

Hospo - Agree 100 percent. MILLER is a product of the team around him and how poorly structured it is...Now...I wouldn't for a second pay that dude $7 million-plus...but I also don't think that's what he's looking at making.

Biggest problem for Jones is that we have Fox already. I think Jones have NHL future, but it would have to be on the team that needs an offensive d-man that somewhat undersized. There is just no room for him on this roster. About Miller. I'm not defending his brain farts, but it's a fantasy that d-man in NHL don't make mistakes. They all do. Question is, if the team can leave with those mistakes. Mistakes that Makar makes game after game would drive people insane, if not for his offensive wizardry which is above everyone else. Personally, I actually like Borgen-Miller pair. Really like it. I would keep both and just maybe Rangers have found a good 2nd line pair. Best part of Vaakanainen is that you don't notice him, which is good, and Schneider seems to play up-tempo more. That's good as well. I think the biggest issue on the team is Fox-Lindgren pair. Will be interesting who plays with Fox, after Lindgren is traded.

The Rangers aren't trading LAFRENIERE, full stop. They're just not. It's not even worth bitching about, because it's not happening. The deal it would take to pluck him off the Rangers would need to result in a player of similar skill and age coming back. We're talking a Leo CARLSSON. Or a Quinton BYFIELD. Logan COOLEY. So it's not even really worth the effort to push the keys needed to discuss here.

MF - True,,How much should Panarina donate?..And How much should Laffy donate for the previous 25 games?..and so on..Forget donating money, maybe a 1 game teaching benching if he's not getting it? OTOH he played a great game for 57 minutes but that's not enoug from any Ranger.....Besides, could be a good way to give Zac Jones 1 more game before trading him for a 6th rounder!!!!!...And does any of this really matter given how badly this team has decomposed under Drury and Fata Ass where most players look like shit?

I must be watching different games….Miller has been bad all season…Many times bailed out by his partner or goaltending but his hockey IQ is painfully low…At one time he provided some offense…Now he provides none….Stevie…I noticed that Benn crosscheck on Fox….If you make the call on Panarin you have to make that one…

Garland listed at 5'10 170 hahahaha....right yeah right my ass.. and Jones is 5'11 180 my asss.

Conor Garland is what 5'2 get the hell out of here.....no thanks laffy stays..we are in trouble... Drury is staying... laviolett is staying....we are staying. Lololol

Lardass defense comments are pure nonsense. And he played miller over 22 minutes and Schneider 17 . He’ll probably blame houseless.

Actuallly……Borgen and Miller have been ok together…..until last nights brain fart cost the game.

K'Andre: You're being paid $10,608.22 per day to do a job. No urgency to clear the puck out of the zone which lead to the NYR's losing the game. I think you should donate yesterday's pay to the 'make-a-wish-foundation' for children.

Dreary's window to trade Miller was last summer (if not before). What would he fetch now, especially with Dreary engineering the move? Less than the KK return for sure.

E - Exactly why I said MILLER, this season, is like other young Rangers who have been getting caught up in the entire Ranger shit storm and seeing their game deteriorate...This even includes Guys like Cuylle who's game has slipped big time since his line was pissed on nd ripped apart and his current line only gives a shit about offense..Maybe that changes with Carrick asw his center!!!......ANyways, I digress.. ..None of that is to absolve MILLER, physically gifted but real issues like you mention. Still, I also think you are overanalyzing given the sitution this year......I saw a lot of good last night (and late last year) in him pertaining to your points on him..I think he can do what you want..but the question is consistency..Coaching is also factor...Trade him? Maybe.I see the reasoning...but it's a high risk move in my book....especially seeing what Drury usually gets in return..

So Stapleface is once again trying to trade Laf. In an Athletic article he and the Canucks writer exchange ideas on how the Rangers can land soon to be 32 year JT Miller. Stapleface's proposal: Staple’s best offer To Vancouver F Alexis Lafrenière C Mika Zibanejad To New York C J.T. Miller F Conor Garland. What an ass. I wouldn't trade Laf straight up for Miller!

Guess the refs caught panarin but missed benn cross checking interference on Fox in ot to score the winner.

HOSPO: not that you need a lesson but for meHockey is such a team-oriented sport that any individual struggles a player faces get magnified tenfold. The skill level is such now in the nhl that mistakes end up in your own net. It’s ironic to me how many fans ran JT out of town for his lapses, but now they desperately want him back. With K’Andre, the frustration lies in his reluctance to consistently play the body and ride opponents into the boards, often opting instead to back off and play the puck.. this has annoyed me for a long time. The issue I see the most is his habit of reaching or standing upright while skating backward, which causes him to lose containment basic fundamentals he didn’t seem to struggle with before. But when it’s bad it all goes bad. It feels like he’s trying to make plays but ends up getting burned. On top of that, his offensive instincts as a two-way defender is problematic. He tends to activate at the wrong times in the offensive zone, leaving gaps in coverage, and the team hasn’t done nearly any puck support up when he pinches. Odd-man rushes are inevitable occasionally, but when a player like Erik Karlsson—who once struggled defensively, eventually became elite in all phases. I think K’Andre will look much better as the team improves, but there are two things to consider. First, if he wants a big contract, he can’t have so many holes in his game. Second, if he’s going to have those flaws, he needs to produce offensively to make up for them. Right now, I’m not ready to sell low on him, but I’m not completely committed either. For the right deal? I’d consider it.

Management has my ok to talk and apply for jobs anywhere but here. It’s called damage control. They have done enough.

Friedmann reporting Rangers gave Libor Jones permission to talk with other teams.

Lardiolette needs to go. So does Dreary. But here we are with both still employed and a PO spot grower dimmer and dimmer.

“FWIW- Belief for weeks has been that Kreider’s back has been an ongoing issue. The move to IR supports those claims — and may help explain the down season he’s having.”…. Drury trying to get rid of damaged goods?

“This one sucks,” said Alexis Lafreniere, who snapped a 13-game drought with two goals. “Especially after our start. Feel like we were playing well. [Jonathan Quick] made some big saves again, but we can’t just keep giving up good chances after good chances. Eventually, it’s gonna go in.” …. And then you have lardass on denial River…. “I mean, you come out of the gates, you’re up 3-0 at home, you don’t win a hockey game, then you did enough wrong defensively to not be happy with it,” Laviolette said.….. that’s been all season and him and his assistant have done nothing.

How long will it take for DD drury to fire lardass and houseless? Leave it to beaver to continue to wait for the dust to settle between his ears. The real solution still is for Dolan to swing his axe. One or both steps have to happen before they destroy the Nyr. They are well on their way. In the meantime they will trade with blame. A good gm and coach wouldn’t have to be in that cya position.

All that said, with the season down the drains and so many other players that should also be moved, I keep MIller and his physical gifts and take the chance that the mind frats can be minimized with some coaching and experience(i.e., not Hously or Faat Bastard)..Just my take and understand the opposite

TDCHI - As CM mentioned, see my post below..I thought MILLER played a GREAT game tonight..and then the fuck up...but, as you and I said, there were 3 other subsequent culprits on that play..one who also fucked the team in OT..One other thing on MILLER, there were plenty of people on here who, while knowing he was still learning, were very frustrataed about MIller's too soft play and way too many mental miscues..I was one of them....But I thought i saw a huge change late last year and was looking forward to him this season...But as you said, as have I and others, he has also been caught in the shit show of this season where 80% of the plyers look like crap more often than not

Many complaints about Miller last year…He has always made mistakes but provided offense 2-3 years ago…Now Lindgren is as dangerous offensively…Miller is regressing bad…A shame we didn’t attempt to move him earlier…His stock is low unless we can find a GM like vcp we can deal with…LOL

TD... Sorry, i'm not paying him Lafreniere-type money on a long term deal. We have EJ Emery on the way and FOX desperately needs a reliable partner. I have no problem moving Miller as long as we get equal value in return.

TD- nah, there was a lot of bitching about Miller and his brain farts. As HOSPO mentioned, he had a few good stretches and towards the end looked like the potential would be fulfilled. But then he would do something like he did tonight,

Devils game will be grosssssss..we will get destroyed....they are fast in transition...oh well. I said 3 loses.

Rhet0ric - MILLER has been the same way his whole career. Was this way with the USNTDP. Was this way at Wisconsin. What we're seeing now is no different than before...but before, there was defensive structure. In the absence of said structure, ain't no one gonna look good...I will also say this: No one was bitching about MILLER last year or the year before. In fact, there was some chatter here that he looked like a LINDSTROM-type player. So he's the goat now...was the GOAT last season. I guess it's all the same.

MC lolol sorry to hear that 50 years my god we are sickos , thankfully you didn't take my dumbass comment seriously. I just like bigger guys who can skate and don't fall apart when they sit down too hard lololol....i don't know maybe your right I am not a scout but this kid hasn't been a D man for forever.......well the good news is neither Dolan or Drury give a rats ass about us

Ha. MILLER. Easy scapegoat. But guess what? There were four other skaters on the ice who stood around like a bunch of slackers after he turned it over. And the kicker? That wasn't the GWG. The Rangers played well for 10 minutes. They played soft for another 10. They played decent for 20. And then they played soft for another 10, before their star player took a lazy stupid penalty in OT and they allowed one of the league's worst PPs to score on them...Again, I can trace things back to the guy behind the bench who is simply incapable of using his bench to its fullest capacity. I knew there were gonna be issues when I hear Dickaletti say something to the effect of 'he's riding this line. The get off the ice and he sends them right back out there...' IN THE FIRST FUCKING PERIOD. Yeah, they looked great! They would've looked a lot better in the third if they hadn't already skated 20 fucking minutes. Three forwards...two at 22 minutes and the third...their fucking CENTER...the most physically demanding role on the team outside of the goalie...for 23 minutes. Stupid, stupid, stupid...And how about this? If you don't have and defensively capable forwards, then maybe talk to your GM about getting some? Of course, that's bullshit, because just about everyone in the bottom six...save for maybe CHYTIL who was out anyway...is at least average defensively...PANARIN? It is literally the worst part of his game. There is ABSOLUTELY NO REASON to have him out there with three minutes left in a one-goal game against a top team in the west. ZERO. Put VESEY out. Or better yet? BERARD. Put Z out. Put ANYONE out but PANARIN. Inexcusable move, but it's one this shithead does with regularity. And if you ARE going to put PANARIN out late in the game? MANAGE HIS MINUTES YOU ASSHAT. Oh and while we're managing minutes...let's take a look at our D too...Let me ask the group this: When did Braden SCHNEIDER become a shitty defenseman? When? Because by my accounting? He's one of the more dependable players. And yet he's getting 16 minutes a night. Why can't he take some of the minutes FOX is getting? And while Will BORGEN didn't play badly...nor did VAAKANAINEN...neither fucking one of them looks as good as JONES has on the back line...OH and one more thing...Are we ever going to have a moment where our forwards play a lick of defense? Ever? Like seriously. Y'all can sit back and make up derogatory names for MILLER...but dude. The defense and the goaltender are getting SHELLED. The Rangers got three quick ones and decided to let QUICK handle the game. This is a stupid fucking strategy and if I'm behind the bench? My first message to the team is that if you DON'T back check. If you DON'T play defensively. If you can't forecheck...guess what? You can't play. I would play the CARRICK line for 60 minutes a goddamn night, because they're literally the only one that consistently does ANY of those things. I'll give honorable mentions to CUYLLE and BERARD. BRODZINSKI, when he plays, tends to do it too...but man...the rest? They just refuse. You w

VCP, not saying you should be happy. Who the fuck is? But one of the few guys on the team you like, fucking sucks. So what, Miller can skate and he is big but he has zero hockey sense. And congrats on following the team for 40 years but I have got you beat by 15 years! I am fucking pissed at the Owner, GM, coach and 90% of the players and Miller and his grand total of 7 points this season and 8,000 give-a-ways, is near the top of the list.

Rhetoric ant miller I wonder if his demands are real or BS. Right now he is easily our best skating defender.Imagine that.. Schneider is second.....after that I have no idea but fox can't skate to save his life . He relies on dekes and outsmart ing people which is catching up to him....I trade Fox....he isn't worth it.... Schneider, mancini, borgen then what ....

Better trade Igor and fox ...I don't trust drury to reset, retool, revamp or restructure this team. Drury fired yet?

I hope mancini is developing Nicely...we need lots of help.... chytil what the heck happened.... anyone see anything????

MC might I say your a dumbass.. watching this team for 40 years... So I will say whatever I say lololol...I like size and speed ....the only other D man is Schneider...fox is either hurt or ...ok I give up he is slow as shit..and his shit sucks...we have no D .....we have no much of a team either.. outside of trouchek, cuylle, laffy, we don't have much... panarin is a another ooops in D zone....3 cups in 100 years I should e happy MC ok if you say so.

The worst part about Miller is that he wants a lot of money on his next contract and I would NOT give it to him.

You can't teach common sense or hockey sense and there are many times I wonder if MILLER has either.

vcp…Yes Miller used that size well when someone smaller than him took the puck away from him…Oh and you can’t fix stupid either…

VCP, you hate everything Rangers, except Miller, LOL!!! I would love to see him develop, with another team! You can't teach brains either!!!

I remember when JD was on the conference call during COVID with Gorton and others and he wanted Miller ...hey remember he was a forward it takes time... I still say you can't teach size and he skates beautifully....miller needs time to develop...

Ha, watching Miller and some of the other Rangers repeated mistakes will make any fan twitchy!

Miller just had to move the puck up the boards and he held it, lost it and it ended up in the net…

duh...meant to say I thought MILLER was playing a GREAT game all night, especially manning up against BENN all night, right up until the classic Miller Brain Fart..

Personally, I thought MIILER was playing a GREAT game, especially manning uGRRRRRRR... But he wasn’t the only guilty party on that goal..Look at the Top line forwards..Of course, Panarina was one..and he also needs to apologize to the team for his lazy out of position play in OT..JMWO.......Other than that, the effort and compete level was there all along which is a good thing… TRO definitely a or THE leader of the team now…….Good stuff from him…...LAFFY and ZBAD seem to have found some of their confidence...….As a whole, Offense getting better, D needs a lot of work..Can’t really win that way… Oh, CHYTLL hurt again?..It sucks, but no big surprise....was just a matter of when not if…Why Drury was smart to go with BRODZ as center depth!!

MC my thoughts exactly should have been plastered to bench, but was out next shift. Bad news is his buddy Emery is the same type player with North Dakota.

BORGEN for all the shit he gets here from some people looks pretty good to me. MILLER just doesn’t have much hockey smarts and he proved it there.

Trade Millers lazy stupid ass! He lost us the game, team finally playing good and he does what he does best.

Miller may turn into a good defensemen some day…I sure hope the fuck it’s not on the Rangers. The guy is just plain bad, send him to Hartford and bring up Mancini

So after Miller's brain fart, he was rewarded with at least 4 shifts after that. A real coach would have grabbed him and said mistakes happen but you never learn so go and sit at the end o the bench! Not this coach, he rewards him with more ice time!

Fox horrible job in front…They had done a great job to that point…Not blaming Quick but he was no great shakes in this game….Such a frustrating loss…

MILLER came off a couple of pretty well played games so of course he has to make a bone headed play tonight to cost us the game. He was due.... and BREAD in OT... WTF man? If you were playing decent D, you wouldn't have had to take the penalty.

Thanks Bitch Miller… If I were Quick there is no way I would consider re-signing with this shitty team.

All 5 goals Ranger miscues...score on their own goal.. TO in the nuetral zone penalty, broken stick nobody gives the D their stick .. Miller TO ( stupidest play of the night) and Panarin penalty .... dumb and dumber.. just self destructive

Miller has got to go. The have more faith and in Borgen. Miller has no situational even OT down a man with Trochek having pick. Numb nuts is streaking down center ice. Dummy

I think if Miller would take responsibility once in a while, but I can’t remember him ever doing so.

A 4 on 3 in OT is near impossible. Fox did a shitty job in the crease. F-ing Bread!

Rangers deserved better than that! Led the whole game & then Miller makes a horrible mistake! Fuck!

I’ve been in and out of this game. Chytil out again?!? Jeez, who saw this coming, lol. Such a talented guy, but his body is made of glass. Such a shame. He should prob retire. Gawd do we need your top 6 C’s……desperately. Thanks dipshit Drury. Can’t wait for the race to mediocrity for 8th place and a beat down by Caps or FL. But Jimmy Boy gets his gate. Good lord this has to be the worst run organization in all of sports. Only fans want a championship, not ownership. They’re only interested being just good enough to draw some playoff gates Year in Year out. That’s what success looks like if you’re in management or ownership for this perpetually mediocre franchise

There's no defending that ass wipe Miller. A pee wee player would not make a mistake like that.

TD- I wonder why he is out there in those situations unless they are hoping for an empty net, but I’m still going to bitch about Millers play. Panarin at least produces from time to time. Miller is more noticeable for his weak ass play on a daily basis.

Because that line has the most points tonight and they need to score another goal because of that moron Miller

WHY…why…WHY…is PANARIN out in the final minutes of a one goal game. Bitch about MILLER, but that is seriously an unforced error…just stupid.

Rangers came out strong and were winning that damn period! Then Miller has a fucking brain fart!

Millers brain farts never fail. I can tell by Trochek’s reaction that he’s the leader in that room now. In addition to Quick

When is going to be enough with Miller? Even after we took the lead he was almost caught going deep on a reckless pinch. Zero hockey sense. Zero

So Lafreniere is in his 5th season and only has 7 multi goal games? Now THAT is an underwhelming stat for the former 1st overall pick.

Rangers need to trade for a center. We all know where this is heading with Chytil…

So Rangers started well and then Dallas took over. Still Rangees actually had a few very good chances to score. Chytil’s line is struggling in this game. Quick leaves rebounds. Defense actually looks better, ZShit is playing better. Interestingly enough, Stars have struggled defensively last few weeks and Rangers could catch a break. Will see the 3rd period.

How are the concussion spotters not calling him back for a check? He hit his head pretty good.

I want to see Cuylle continue to get more PK time, but damn do we miss Kreider on the PK.

Stars have way way way to much time and space and can just walkin a fire.. dzone and neutral zone coverage poor

Ever notice how they are so loose on dump ins? Guy isn’t quite at the red line but they let it go. But, they take 10 minutes to call a ridiculous 1/4” off sides

And don’t underestimate the Hockey Gods…2 weeks ago that Zibanejad mistake would have ended up in the back of our net. Even though they were getting dominated in their own zone, I felt that they were gonna weather it

You could see that Lafrenière was gonna break out last few games…6 SOG, 5 SOG…he just wasn’t finishing! Wild - agree…looked so strange to see him miss, he’s so good on those

JFC31: on the Cuylle miss. I think the puck bounced right over his stick…may have been the camera angle. But it looked almost like it went through his stick, so likely right over with a tv artifact making it look like it went through

RF…I believe Laff has earned the criticism but he is young and has shown just how good he can be…I believe Kakko was a victim of expectations but again stupid to trade him for what they did…A good third line player that plays a strong puck possession game was not someone the Rangers should be getting rid of…Our team D is as bad as any in the entire league…Just revealed how bad Drury really is…

KALIYEV is a young player, Lav has no idea how to coach and grow young players, just ask the Craps. ANother trait with Lav he is good for a year or 2 but after that teams rinse and repeat.

The lack of forthcoming from Dreary is beyond frustrating. Look I realize all teams hide injury details but the Rangers have been in a swan dive for 2 months and Dreary has spoken to the media and more importantly the fans how many times? Err....a big fat ZERO.

Cm it’s no secret about kreider having back spasms. Management has brain farts

Incidentally? I couldn't recall if I had this right...but I guess I did...KALIYEV'S linemates for the 2021 gold medal US team? Trevor ZEGRAS and Alex TURCOTTE. I seem to remember ZEGRAS playing the middle...but now that I think about it, it was TURCOTTE centering that line. So DRURY. You want to win friends and influence people? Specifically ME? Go get'em. You know ZEGRAS wants to come here anyway. And the price for TURCOTTE Can't be that over the top...Step 1. Get those two. Step 2.Get LEONARD and HUTSON. Step 3. Tank for the rest of the season and draft HAGENS. Step 4. Win five cups.

Wow so he is a shooter who apparently can't skate lololol..no Mike Gartner lolol. We can teach to skate. So low expectations... Drury fired yet since nuks said no to ZBAD.....

I gotta say the mystery surrounding the Kreider injury/healthy scratch is just weird. Perhaps the Rangers didn't want potential trading partners to know that Kreider was having back spasms? But being a healthy scratch doesn't exactly increase his trade value. I've decided I'm a militant agnostic when it comes to the Rangers front office/lockerroom malaise: I don't know what's goingon and neither do you! (LOL- That was a bumper sticker I saw a long time ago and I've always loved the idea of a Militant Agnostic!)

Also, since I brought up KAKKO...I want to be absolutely clear...and I'll give the caveat that I absolutely LOVE KALIYEV...he just ain't nearly as good as KAKKO. Better shooter. But not nearly as complete. My thinking on him? He could be a VATRANO-type player. Could see him get 20 goals, 40-50 points in the right setting. But played 9 minutes a night or some BS like that? Yeah...no.

re: KALIYEV, I think the issue wasn't totally dissimilar from what happened with KAKKO. He landed with a lot of expectations, and impressed to start, but the Kings were/are loaded up with wings. They ended up getting FIALA, already had KEMP and then moved BYFIELD to the wing. LAFERIERE turned pro, Trevor MOORE got more time...and KALIYEV got injured...Simply put? He never got the confidence of McLELLAN or HILLER, and last year, was relegated to third/fourth line, which is NOT where the dude is going to shine. He's not a grinder and he's not particularly physical. He's basically a sniper. You put him on a line with good players and he's going to score goals. But if the plan is to play him sparingly on third or fourth line? Well, no one is going to be that impressed. Again, KALIYEV is at his most effective when he's shooting the puck. Get him grinding in the corners or expecting him to be a checking-line forward? Yeah, you won't be too impressed.

HellsKitchen - NELSON ***OR*** EISERMAN? Try both. And more. No way the Canuckleheads piss away PETTERSSON. He's gonna command a haul.

Ridiculous to think Drury would consider trading Lafrenière after signing him to that big (but still team-friendly) contract. If he had a notion that he was someone he’d consider trading, he’d have just bridged him. Look, it’s disappointing to see him be part of this team-wide malaise but he is not one of those generational talents that can bend the game to his will. Like 99% of players, he is dependent on the team talent, team systems, etc. What I know is that while he’s not generational, his skill level is extremely high and his IQ even higher…and most importantly, he has shown in 2 out of 3 playoffs that he plays better in the post-season. That’s something you can’t teach and also suggests that he is a leader. IMO, he’s an untouchable on this team…he’s exactly what Drury wants in a player

From The Athletic: “ Earlier this season, the Rangers offered struggling center Mika Zibanejad to Vancouver in return for Miller. The Canucks turned down the offer. It’s no secret that the Rangers are very interested in Miller, who was drafted by New York in 2011 and played his first six NHL seasons there.”

PJ: Agreed 100%. Laf is a lightening rod for criticism (as was KK) and I suppose it's due to where he was selected in his draft.

Guess Kreider is one with a real injury and the others are just playing bad and not injured.

Rangers should not trade Laff…He will rebound and that line will get going again…All trying to do too much….I disagree with those calling them lazy…

BONUS: NYI fans are pissed that they didn't pick up Kaliyev.... Kaliyev's locker is next to CUYLLE(good choice), his number on the NYR's will be 34. He played on the US Juniors team with Berard and Miller. He said the first guy he heard from on the team was QUICK(of course).

I'd be shocked if the Canucks traded Pettersson instead of Miller. It just doesn't make sense for them age-wise IMO. If the Icelanders want Pettersson it's going to cost them a hell of a lot more than Eiserman.

Canucks will ask for Cole Eisermann or Danny Nelson from the Isles. Let's see if Lemon Lou bites.

If Laf is headed to Vancouver it's Pettersson who needs to be coming back, not Miller and that's due primarily to the 6 year age difference between those 2 Canucks. To send a young top 6 forward for a soon to be 32 year old is something you only do if you feel it'll bring you a cup.

Drury finally figuring out how to leverage IR? Huh. It is cold out but I doubt Hell has frozen over quite yet.

Rempe recalled to serve his last game of suspension. Roster spot made available by placing Kreider on IR. Retroactive to Sunday. Means he can come back next Thursdays game.

In regard to JT Miller: The rumors are the Canucks are still insisting on Lafreniere. Definite non starter there.... The NYI's are reportedly in hot pursuit of Petterson. That would suck for us.

Arthur Kaliyev has a reputation of being a very coachable player. His negatives are his Defense and his skating. The Kings head coach is also their skating coach. I'm kind of surprised by that. Dawn Braid should be able to help Kaliyev a lot in the skating dept. Z can give him a clinic on forechecking. He's helped s lot of other players. I'm hoping he gets a few practices with the team before we throw him out there. Throwing him out there against the Stars or Devils may not be the best idea.

Interesting to read that Kaliyev wasn't placed in a position to succeed with the Kings and primarily that was under another veteran coach's watch (Todd McLellan). How will Lardiolette deploy him? If it's more of the same (little PP time and mired on the 4th line with players not of his skillset) it won't be long before he's back on waivers IMO.

The New York Rangers claimed forward Arthur Kaliyev off waivers Monday from the Los Angeles Kings. The 23-year-old wing has not played in the NHL this season after recovering from a broken clavicle suffered in training camp. He played five AHL games as part of a conditioning stint in December but didn’t appear for the Kings before going on waivers. Kaliyev has 35 goals and 71 points in 188 NHL career games. The Rangers like his 6-foot-2 size and believe he has offensive upside. They are also 26th in the league standings, so they had high waiver priority. The move is a homecoming of sorts for Kaliyev, who was born in Uzbekistan but spent part of his childhood in Staten Island. He struggled to get consistent ice time with the Kings, averaging only 12:08 per game in his career, and it seemed clear that he was ready for a change of scenery. The Kings did not have a spot for him in their forward group this season, making him a healthy scratch every game after his conditioning stint. New York is in a position where it can experiment with picking up different players. After starting the season 12-4-1, the Rangers are 6-16-0 in their last 22 games, the worst record in the NHL during that span. They have the lowest goals for per games played rate in the league since the start of their slide, so taking a flyer on a young player with skill and a heavy shot makes sense. Kaliyev’s defensive play didn’t always win him favor in Los Angeles, so that could be a potential roadblock in New York, too. The Rangers sent Matt Rempe to the AHL to be roster-compliant after claiming Kaliyev. Rempe still has one game remaining on his eight-game suspension. He’s eligible to play right away in the AHL but will have to serve the final game of his suspension when he returns to the Rangers. Chris Kreider missed Sunday’s game in Chicago with an upper-body injury. It’s unclear if he will be ready to go Tuesday against the Dallas Stars. Kaliyev could arrive by then, and the Rangers will have to bump one player out of the lineup if he is to debut (or two if Kreider is ready). Jonny Brodzinski has been the most-frequent healthy scratch of forwards on the NHL roster, but he’s coming off a game in which he scored. Jimmy Vesey could be another option to sit. What went wrong for Kaliyev with the Kings? The Kings drafted the winger with the 33rd pick in 2019, the second choice in the second round, right after the Ottawa Senators grabbed Shane Pinto. And it felt, at the time, as though they snapped up a first-round talent. Kaliyev had scored 51 goals and 102 points in his second Ontario Hockey League season with the Hamilton Bulldogs and would play for the United States in two World Juniors, totaling seven goals and seven assists in 12 games across both tournaments. At the time, Kaliyev was considered the most divisive player in the 2019 draft. The Kings acknowledged the differing views on him but felt they could take a chance on someone who had been pegged to go in the middle of the first round on many draft boards. “There’s zero character concerns,” Kings scouting director Mark Yannetti said at the time. “There are consistency and compete concerns. But that’s completely different than character concerns. Sometimes people lump character and compete into the same group and use it interchangeably. It’s not. With him, the view is he’s a 17-year-old kid who sometimes acts like a 14-year-old kid. “He’s not going to be the first one who does that. He’s not going to be the last. Our view is that when he matures, those perceived things that pushed him down get fixed.” Some of those concerns were never erased. Some might also see the Kings failing to maximize what Kaliyev does best, which is shoot the puck and finish offensive plays. Kaliyev scored in his NHL debut on Feb. 2, 2021 — his only game with Los Angeles that season — and then spent all of next season on the roster. His rookie season wasn’t perfect but it was filled with promise as he played in 80 games and have 14 goals and 27 points. He also played in all seven games of their 2022 playoff series against Edmonton. The 2022-23 season saw Kaliyev score at an increased rate, with 13 goals and 28 points in 56 contests. His shot made him a threat on the club’s power play, and he scored 14 goals from the second unit over two seasons. But he also began to lose some stature in the eyes of former coach Todd McLellan. His ice time began to fall and McLellan, who’s now coaching the Detroit Red Wings, also started to deploy him more often on the fourth line when his skillset was more fitting of a player who needed to be on the top two lines. Kaliyev’s skating has never been a strength, and while his possession and defensive metrics seemed to point toward him being a useful player, it was becoming clear as time went on that the Kings couldn’t trust him in an important role. Adrian Kempe and Viktor Arvidsson also held the top two spots on right wing, which blocked his path. But when Alex Laferriere unexpectedly won a job in L.A.’s 2024 training camp while Arvidsson was recovering from back surgery, that spelled the beginning of the end for Kaliyev. A broken foot in December 2023 didn’t help Kaliyev as he lost more ground when it came to squeezing into the lineup. His production dipped and McLellan began to scratch him more often. When Jim Hiller replaced McLellan last February, that appeared to mark a fresh start for the winger. Instead, Hiller played him even less, with just 13 appearances in 34 games. Whatever possible trade value he had was effectively tanked. While the Kings did re-sign Kaliyev to a one-year deal just before camp, the fact that Hiller said he wasn’t an option to use in their series against the Oilers last spring was ominous when it came to his future with Los Angeles. And with Laferriere entrenched and thriving, along with the Kings’ signing of Warren Foegele and trade for Tanner Jeannot, the Kings essentially were ready to move on. Placing Kaliyev on waivers on Sunday, with the knowledge that he’d likely get claimed, meant they were at peace with the separation. Whether it was him failing to develop his game beyond that of a shooter or the Kings failing to develop him into a more well-round player remains up for debate, but the Rangers now get the opportunity to bring the best out of a skilled player with question marks.

Molly got a cracker…”the sun appears to be shining on the future of the Blueshirts organization”… no mention of Othman and others….https://nypost.com/2025/01/06/sports/rangers-burgeoning-youth-provide-hope-for-bright-future/

Drew don’t worry maybe lardass will try it…”Their defensemen shot the puck. Early and often. “That’s what we want,” coach Patrick Roy said. “More than this, we want bodies in front of the net. Try to take the eyes — make sure the goalie can’t see the puck, basically. And if we throw it behind the net, we know we’re gonna have possession of the puck. So I thought we did a really nice job in that regard.”

Leave it to beaver drury…. https://nypost.com/2025/01/06/sports/rangers-claim-arthur-kaliyev-off-waivers-to-bolster-forward-depth/

docjay......hey man, thanks for sharing that with me. I do remember him being a tough son of a bitch. But like ,he was a RANGER when I met him and as a young teen ..it was a life time experience and here we are talking about that meeting as he passes in 2025. SPECIAL hockey moment :)

just to follow up on my previous post those Chicago Blackhawk teams of the early 1960s were as tough as any group of players ever assembled the only key that could stand up to them physically with the Toronto Maple Leafs and they had many a legendary brawls during those years, including that famous one in 1962, which is available on YouTube if you look it up but they had some real characters on those early 1960’s Chicago teams, Reggie Flemming, Al McNeil Jack Evans, murray Balfour, moose Vasco, pieere pilotte bobby hull , erik nesterrnko

Newfie ranger - Al McNeil was legitimately one of the toughest guys that ever played. I’ve seen him take on Gordie Howe and not shy away. He came to the Rangers late in his career, but was still a very effective force as a sixth defenseman, but his best years were in Chicago where he was part of those early 60s Blackhawk teams, including the one that won the Stanley Cup. He also later coach the Montréal Canadiens, which was a remarkable achievement, considering he was a non-French speaker, but they recognized his leadership and toughness and if I’m not mistaken, I believe he won a Stanley Cup while coach of the Montréal Canadiens if you wanna go back and watch a game in which Al McNeil played, there is a game on YouTube from the 1965 Stanley Cup semifinals game game six between Chicago and Detroit and in the third period Gordie Howe tries to take a run at Alan McNeil. He gives him a cross check across the face knocks him down and then stand his ground as Gordy looks up, shocked him I have never seen Al McNeil back away from anyone or any challenge.

PJ: That’s true…the defensive issues. Maybe it’s not as good an idea as I first thought lol

rf4L.....I work part time in the warehouse @ Winners /HomeSense from 7-11am but not the Zeppelin 7am -11pm ! You gotta take what you can get after you actually retire .....LOL

Getting Kaliyev goes under the category of “nothing ventured, nothing gained.” We all know that this team is going to look very different, very soon. This is a very good time to take a flyer on a kid like this who I’m sure both Dan Muse & Drury are very familiar with through USA hockey…added to the fact that he played before with Berard. Good move by Drury.

Wow , Al Macneil just passed away @ 89 yrs old. Really quick story for you guys. Al played def with the Rangers back in 1967. here in St.John's NL...the biggest Mall (Avalon Mall ) in the province opened and they brought in Al to cut the ribbon. I stood in line to get his autograph (hell to me back then it was like getting Ratelle or Gilberts autograph ) You have to realize just how far removed we were back then in NL from the NHL and especially my beloved NY Rangers.I held onto that thing for the longest time. Anyway ,a neat little tid bit for ya...today I work at the Avalon Mall here in St' John's ,NL

Wild…I know little about the new guy other than he has decent size but is not that physical…Putting him with Chytil and Berard sounds like a defensive nightmare…Cuylle is actually good defensively and that line still struggled with him on it…

What does everyone think about this idea? While Kreider is out, move Cuylle up to that line and put the new guy on the 3rd line with Chytil and Berard, since he and Kaliyev (sp) have played together in the past. Yeah it was a while ago but still. Familiarity helps a player be more relaxed when coming to a new team. Give Cuylle a reward for his play and start to integrate the new guy

Heh any of you city Wall folk. I’m about to leave in 3 hours a red eye to Newark. I wanna take my little nephews to something. Any of yall have an opinion on Mercer Labs?

td: If my reading of the tea leaves is correct and let’s say Lindgren is loved, and Msoth is moved to replace him. What do you think the return would be? I could see a 5-6 type, a little older or if a prospect or pick is added 26-28 year old D come back. Probably not a flashy type, but more in the Lindgren mold, but perhaps bigger with a body not so broken (partly due to more size). Just wonder if my thinking is far off what others see

LOL, we can hope! That Danny NELSON looked fantastic. EXACTLY the type of center the Rangers desperately need. I remember he was a thought for me in 2023, but at 23 overall? He would've been picked too high...At the time...and I think I even posted this back then...I was thinking they could trade the 23rd overall for a later first and a second...but obviously getting PERREAULT was an absolute coup...and I wouldn't change that for anything...What DOES suck is that second round? It's really looking to be a who's who of future NHLers. Just loaded with talent. Also in that round? Trey AUGUSTINE. and PERREAULT was obviously the better player.

tdchi - Nooooooooo!!!!! LOL - well maybe one or both will pull a Lias Anderson and trip over the cabling on opening night and not be factor.

DREW - LOL, as a former Long Islander myself, swimming in a sea of putrescence that is the Islander fan base...and having roomed with/played hockey with an Islander superfan in college...I absolutely LOVE your engrained hatred for everything Islanders! And occasionally talking you off the ledge...speaking of ledges...Man...Danny NELSON and Cole EISERMAN as Islanders. That is NOT a good thing.

Wildcard, I have to be honest man. I am going to post this and I hope going forward you perhaps, as an older person, just do some self evaluating. I just turned 50 last month. I have a son who is graduating HS and a daughter ready to start High School. The past two years, cancer took my brother at 56 and my father in law at 74. Why am I sharing this? For several reasons, first I am not going to "cyber-bully" or shun a person on a unique message board where people are as close to a "internet family" as can be. This is a special place. (Look at the reception of York18). You are a human being so you certainly do not deserve anything but respect. However, is there any inner soul searching in you that holds yourself accountable and perhaps approach this place differently? Listen, before you reply "No one says anything about anyone else" or claiming people start with you. Just think about it. You take criticism of the Rangers so personally. Why? I can't speak for everyone but it is common to be down on your own team. If you talk to a Jets or Giants fan right now. A Mets fan. Heck, the Yankees are the most criticized team on sports radio and they are consistently championship contenders. Point being, dude, perhaps this place isn't for you or maybe take it back a notch and just realize no one is attacking you. They probably poke fun at your angst over Rangers criticism. Hell, look at my Islanders obsession. It is unhealthy and cringe-worthy but rf4l, tdchi among others have fun with it. You're a knowledgeable hockey fan and have every right to opine but to start posts "I find it dunny when posters criticize....blah blah blah" or mentioning that you'll burn this place to the ground. You call people cowards on this wall. No one calls you a coward. How do you know what someone is going through while you call people cowards? Some of us may be battling sickness, or struggling with family issues or health. Like I mentioned I am 50 and may be on the younger side here. Look, I apologize, I don't want to be condescending, I am offering an olive branch. I don't expect some Wildcard apology. Hell I am hoping against hope you don't flame me in a response. Have I always been nice? No, but if there is an archive I bet you I have apologized. What is this wall if no one posts anymore? Is that the goal? You claim there a few posters, I'll let others chime in if they want but I hope you read this and realize this is coming from a well-intentioned place. If you respond and pick apart what you disagree with, at least acknowledge the good points. We don't have an admin here so we need to self-police. I am reluctantly hitting spray. I am not expecting a miracle but perhaps helping make this a welcoming place where we can discuss our frustrations with the Rangers.

I mean, I'm not gonna rejoice and say the season is saved with KALIYEV...but man, I really just don't agree with the characterization that waiver claims are scrubs. FORSLING is one, for sure. Eeli TOLVANEN is another. Dante FABBRO another. There are good players waived all the time for one reason or another. Simple fact is that players sometimes run their course with a franchise and for whatever reason, they either don't have time to shop him around or just decide to do a clean break...like I said, I don't expect this to be some season-saving move...but this was an extreme no-brainer for the Rangers. KALIYEV still has an immense upside. And there's a legit chance he gets some decent ice with KREIDER out to prove himself...I didn't realize he was from the New York City area, but man, that's even better...this kid could've gone in the mid-first round in 2019.

I grew up in Staten Island and played hockey when all we had was a wall memorial rink that was outdoors, no roof and was like 300 X 125 or something. Nick Fotiu was a hero, not because he was anything but a 4th liner but he bled Ranger blue and was one of the only guys who wore the jersey that other teams feared and didn’t start skating until he was a teen. I played in HS and college and still play weekly, and it’s good to see another kid from the “rock” lace them for the NYR.

Just curious. Who are all these cry babies with no spine and cowardly little children? Claiming Kaliyev can't hurt--I'm all for it. But somehow my gut tells me he will be next in a long line of Right Wings to perish playing with K & Z.

Limbo : you read my mind I guess I needed specific players it has worked and you have one . As far as Wild says It would be great if it works out and I have no issue having a player that tries to shoot through people . Wish Kakko did that . Oh well

Limbo: Exactly. Now I do t wxoect a guy who will be an all star a major part of a cup win. But if this kid jsut comes in and with his shooting mindset causes D to drift to him and give let’s say…Zib or Kreider, or Cuylle or whoever he pants with, that extra half second to get in an extra 3-5 feet to the net, then that’s a win.

rf4L; exactly what I am taking about. Typical post from you. Typical response to some minor thing posted contradicting your typical negative takes. All you do is post negative things. I came to the determination a long time ago. You hate your life. It must be horrible shitty. Because you desperately try to spin everything negative here. Every day. Without fail. The fact no one calls you on it is because they jsut do t have the energy to deal with you and your passive aggressive bullshit. I’m not them. You and others here love to post about someone without saying who. It’s pitiful. It’s childish. It’s cowardly. Grow up already.

Rhet: I kind of wonder if another move is coming. Up front I mean. There are a lot of forwards who are pushing to get ice time. JBro played well last game, he wants to stay in the line up. Since his last scratching Vesey has played hard and physical trying to stay in. Berard is showing he belongs. Edtrom is playing solid and has stepped up his physical game of late. The D seems mostly set, but for how long? Lindgren I thi. Drury will star to seriously take offers on if he hasn’t already…so will they flip him for futures, then if this new Kid can show decent move a F out for a D? Could Smith be moved for a D to replace Lindgren? We know Kreider could bring a nicer back but that is dependent on his No trade list of course. Anyway, just sort of spitballing. This could just be a 100% opportunity grab, or Drury could have other things going and this came along at the right time to help things go more smoothly.

People need to ease up on the waiver stuff. Is the be all, end all? Nope. It’s a no cost lottery ticket. You don’t think it ever pays off? Ask the PANTHER fans if they regret getting “scum” FORSLING off the wire. He only helped the team win a cup, lol.

Shonuff: Every once in a while there is a feel good story about a waiver wire guy suddenly finding his game and becoming a good player. Not All-Star level mind you, but a good supporting cast type player for a team. In this case there may be another benefit from him. One of my second line sups at work is a big Kings fan, even knows some folks who work for the team from back in his playing days and some years ago had one f ten current players in his house when he was a host family for junior players. Anyway, he says that the kid is known for shooting, and being known as a bit selfish with it at times. Like he will try to shoot through a D and the goalie when he has a player wide open in front of the net. But the point is, he loves to shoot. Now if he keeps that mentality and shoots the puck, that will be something this Rangers team could use. Even if he doesn’t score much, maybe his mentality will rub off. Or maybe his desire to shoot will create rebounds for the Cuylle, Trocheck, Berard and even Kreider types who spend time around the blue paint. You never know what little change can lead to a ripple of changes. And also in this case, if it doesn’t work. Oh well. He cost nothing to get, if he is waived and picked up no big loss, if he clears waivers well, no cap repercussions, and worst case the Pack get a guy to help out down there. I don’t expect much, but I think it’s never a bad move…I mean, u less you are sitting atop the NHL, why mess with what’s working. But for a team like the rangers are right now, down in the standings. What’s the worst that happens? They get a higher pick in each round?

Bottom line is if you are put on waivers and not a high priced vet it means you are a scrub . Rangers loaded up on yet another scrub . Drury is a big time silent weirdo . Horrible season .

I don't know this kid at all but I thought Drury was hibernating until 2026... Is Drury fired yet

Jesus. This place never changes. Just a bunch a cry babies with no spine and a lot of passive aggressive bullshit from cowardly little children.

Via X “Fun fact on Arthur Kaliyev, the newest New York Rangers forward, while he was born in Uzbekistan he actually moved to New York at the age of 2, residing in Staten Island until the age of 13”

KALIYEV??? really?? This is what the Rangers have come to under Drury, picking up bottom of the barrel scum??? The players the Rangers are collecting are just so unlikeable to me, but that's my personal problem.....Anyways, .A finesse 3rd liner who never hits and plays on the perimiter....ooohhh he can shoot...wheeeeee...yep, just what this team needs to be relavent and to approach teams like the Caps, Devis and Panthers..But if that doesn't matter any more keep it going Dipshit...

Rangers pick up the "Uzbeck!" Big strong kid, we needed an 'Uzbeck' on the roster. Hope the talent scouts of this Wall are pleased. :-) https://www.hockey-reference.com/players/k/kaliyar01.html

I am both surprised and pleased that he was claimed. Let's hope Lardiolette gives him a legitimate chance...

tdchi - Funny you mention the Murphy skates. I was at Rye Playland for my son's High School game last night and I was looking at the sound. I thought to myself, I wonder if I am the only one who is thinking about Joe Murphy's skates right now.

KALIYEV, incidentally, was teammates with Brett BERARD on the gold medal winning US squad from 2021. Next up? Trade for TURCOTTE and ZEGRAS.

One thing I have noticed about DRURY is that he's got an absolute boner for American players who have laced up with the US team sent to the u20s. BORGEN and KALIYEV this year. ROSLOVIC last season. Andrew COPP and Frank VATRANO. Tyler MOTTE. Will LOCKWOOD. Patty KANE too, but that doesn't really count...I mean, it actually IS a good strategy, since the US team really does play the type of game that would win a cup. But he'd be a lot better off drafting them in the first place, rather than throwing away picks to land them...nevertheless...major kudos on the KALIYEV claim, even though it was beyond a no-brainer for this team.

td: I mean yeah. They are high, I believe it’s 6th for this waiver cycle. In any case. I would have thought the Hawks, or the Islanders would be the most likely. Both teams could use another guy. And the Islanders for one have almost no game to speak of. Again, with such a low cap hit every one of the teams save maybe the Preds, could have grabbed him before the Rangers. I sort of dismissed Drury getting him off waivers, having put a claim or not, because I figured he would get grabbed

td: To start he may be in place of Kreider. Maybe this gives them the ability to let his back rest.

Wildcard - Depending on whether the waiver priority is set...either pre or post-game yesterday, there were only five other teams that had priority. Less, if you don't factor in the win versus Chicago. I am somewhat surprised the Islanders didn't take a crack at him. Or the Hawks. But we were pretty high on the list.

It’s a great grab off waivers. This isn’t one of the those “guy who makes millions more than he should” type waiver wire player. He is “cheap” cap wise, cost nothing to get. Worst case is that he gets waived and claimed back or by another team, or sent to the minors with zero cap hit. Best case is he finds his game and is a big part of the team or used in trade for something that helps. It’s basically a no lose situation. Those are rare and I am surprised he fell as far as the Rangers on the waiver wire.

I still hate DRURY for trading KAKKO, and he should STILL be fired, tarred, feathered, and unceremoniously dumped in the East River alongside Joe Murphy's skates...but this was a fantastic move. KALIYEV isn't a sure thing...and he's got his warts...but the dude can fucking SHOOT. Very good pickup for the Rangers. KALIYEV desperately needed a fresh start. I would get him quickly on a line with Z and KREIDER. Could be a poor man's Frank the Tank. Of course, this probably means BERARD is going back to the A...

rf4L: yes of course he won’t…because Lavy is known for not playing kids..especially over vets. No way a guy like Cuylle…oh wait.

Holy shit it's true! https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/rangers-claim-forward-arthur-kaliyev-off-waivers-from-kings/

I mean, who the fuck would EVER want a 23-year-old 6'2, 210-pound right winger with a laser of a shot and a total possession freak when we have...(checks notes)...SMITTY Jr.

https://www.yardbarker.com/nhl/articles/hartford_wolf_pack_will_turn_a_corner_with_garand_in_net/s1_16448_41526741 Good article on how Garand is doing in Hartford...

Boring is drury and lardass , and what they have done to a contender to a pretender. Also boring is to just blame the players, and think the other two are innocent. As is ignoring what happened so far, and believing that loyalty is deserved by this disrespectful organization. And the ultimate bore is the defensive play in their own zone while abusing their goalies.

HA. Frank the Tank for..$6 million per?!? Holy shit. That's a contract they'll immediately regret. Looks like the Ducks are loading up on overpaid players. Maybe we can do a little reverse DRURY on them!

DRURY could take a very small baby step toward legitimacy by putting in a claim for Arthur KALIYEV. With KREIDER 'injured' this is a no-brainer move for the Rangers. They have the cap. KALIYEV has a CRAZY shot, and he just needs a fresh start. EASY claim. Of course, PULJUJARVI was also an easy claim that this fuckball slept on.

mf…first game of 2022 playoffs vs Penguins he had to come in for Pens in second OT…He had eaten a bunch of spicy pork and broccoli aftet first OT not thinking he would play… He did well and Pens won game hence the nickname….

For some of us, "late to the party, what's the association of G 'Luis Domingue' & 'spicy meatballs?'" tyvm :-)

I think the Wall has been refreshingly united and calm and civil. Too bad it takes the team taking this puzzling, frustrating turn for the worse. Nice to see them have some success yesterday afternoon, but we have to temper any excitement or hope because of WHO they beat. A feel good story for Spicy Pork for sure. I hope he gets another chance or two filling in. He is not a terrible goalie for a backup. And does it really matter at this point? Unfortunately, losing more will be more beneficial for next year and beyond at this point anyway.

JFC31 - I am with you. We are taking on the personality of the Rangers. I am happy that we have more York18 and less aggressive antagonizing posts. For all, I am not sure how much it was discussed but during the broadcast of Saturdays game against the Caps, they mentioned that Drury and management are going to make some changes for "meat and potatoes" type players? What the hell does that even mean? I wish I had a link but I just don't understand what the heck that means. The Rangers operate with such arrogance sometimes. I know this isn't some ground-breaking discovery but I don't get the sense there is a desire to connect with their fans. I thought when JD was brought back, that was starting to improve. I was even at the draft night party at the Garden when we drafted that Kaako fella. Look, I guess you do not want a team that is going to layout their plan. The way they handled Goodrow, Trouba, etc. How bad does it need to get?

JFC. Yeah but 1) It's venting and 2) It bears a bunch of nasty infighting which seems to happen a lot when they're winning more than they're losing.

JFC I know, it's prevalent on all the Ranger sites because quite frankly if theyre not frustratingly bad -theyre boring.

Gotta be honest….this place is becoming boring as hell. Suck, suck, suck, blah, blah, blah…who TF wants to read this day after day after day? Not me….

RFL, I second that. Good comeback by them against Finland, who pretty much dominated the beginning of the game from what I understand. I didnt see the game, just saw snippettes. As for the Rangers, I guess Im happy they beat the other bottom dweller in the league. Wouldve been a helluva lot worse had the score been reversed. On to the next adventure.

Good win, but anyone saying we beat a shit team, we are the worst team in the league atm so everyone is better than us LOL that is what other teams say when beating us.......The way this team is playing even in a win time to send the core packing and start over with youngins

The bar for red hot has been lowered or is using a bell curve…” Red-hot Filip Chytil extends point streak in needed Rangers boon . Collecting two goals on three shots in the victory, the Czech center has four goals in his past four games and is now riding a season-long four-game point streak. Sunday counted as the sixth multi-point game of his career and his second of the season.”

Vatrano signs 3-year, $18 million contract with Ducks.... https://www.nhl.com/news/frank-vatrano-signs-3-year-contract-with-anaheim-ducks

RF4l - iT's funny/sad that more people in Canada know and care about that than Americans!

I don't blame Maroon at all..That Chicago team was as dead and lifeless as they come..Why not do outrageous or silly things?. Wbo cares wht the opposing team does or thinks....Anywys,..as for PANARINA and LAFFY...Let me see, LAFFY has absolutely sucked for 20-25 games while Panarina was a Johnny come lately just starting to suck the last 10....so lets be fair eve n if the lst few games Panaarina has been a slightly bigger problem then Mr. Coast when i get big contrct..

Rempe has his own set of rules as compared to the rest of the NHL players.... sickening as always

I thought fat Pat made an ass of himself…Should have been tossed….Rempe would have been…

Maroon was trying to spark his team to get some fire under them for the next game. I’m glad the Rangers didn’t bite. What for?

Was really impressed with the fourth line today…Great forecheck all game and good situational play when we had the lead…All three of them were good…Z line bad start but were good after that…Chytil line good as well…Trocheck line scored but other than that I thought they were all over the place….Over passing and when we had a three goal lead they were making low % passes…Not lack of effort in my opinion but lack of confidence has destroyed their judgement…

He has spoken from on high ““It’s good to score goals, it’s confidence for guys,” head coach Peter Laviolette said after his team picked up its second win in three games. “Confidence for the team, confidence for plays that are contributing offense. Everybody wants to feel like they’re helping and contributing.”

Domingue has been a good depth signing. Called upon last year and won a big game. Played well today, albeit against a weak team but still!

Newf- I agree on Pork! I wasn’t a righty catching glove goalie either but Glen Hamlin was my favorite back in the ‘80’s and I still have his jersey and I got a signature on a program cover back at an open practice at Rye Playland!

Callahan is better than Micheletti but anyway. Even the worst of teams get 30 wins. For me the is a No Big Deal win, now that if they beat Dallas I will change my mind. Panarin was just awful today and pulls down Troc and Laf. Laf is deferring to much to Panarin it’s a bad habit he has. Is Kreider getting traded?

I have to admit ...........I have a soft spot for old "spicey pork " maybe it's because he is a lefty ( I was a righty however) but some of my early heros were lefties.....started with Roger Crozier,then Tony O.and ofcourse our very own Gilles Villemure (the perfect compliment to Eddie for that Vezina win ) and even Glen Hanlon.what a PO performer for us.

These idiots on ABC like Callahan.... talking up this big victory lolol...how last year president trophy winners I am going to barf.. .dudes forget 1 president trophy means zero 2 canes would have beat us if not for Igor being ridiculously great.. caps sucked anyway....we had about 6 players with career years....he should sucked at 5v5 ... We weren't a great team just a good team definitely good....if I hear president trophy one more time !!!!! Most useless trophy in pro sports.

I am convinced that Filip Chytil doesn't really have an accent. He just puts a fake one on for interviews :)

EZ fix to avoid the BS by Maroon at the end, Ref.. misconduct get the f off the ice..

And Fox actually making some tricky moves like from days of old! Another positive that I hope wakes him up & gives him confidence

The Blackhawks coaching change sure made a difference! They are as bad as they come aand only have 2 guys with balls...

Jfc31 agreed to shit teams someone has to win..... nothing to get excited about I was hoping for a loss. But hopefully trade value for some goes up!!!

Cally ANd Laviolette have not been watching that amazing 3rd line before today, which overall is meaningless as far as NHL hockey... ..but..a baby step ..for them and the team..one step up, two steps back, then one step up today

This game “proves” nothing but this is about getting our offensive mojo back. Line 1 looks sharp, so does line 3 and line 2 looks better without Kreider! LOL! Line 4 has also done good work.

Ok coach .. f'in coach here.. Trochek line if you keep trying to pass pass pass and not simplify and get pucks deep .. sit ur ass on the bench for a shift or 2

I was hoping the Bread line gained some confidence from their goal. Apparently not.

STEVIE - Kreider is done .....after today shows what teh Rangers can do without him and what BRODZ can do in Top Six if he gets the chnce

They let a break like that? Idiotic...Defense 1st, 2nd and 3rd..no matter how ugly

Hopefully the third is not the old second period. But if it is lardass can stay in Chicago for the winter and beyond.

In regard to REMPE: he never get's called on the open ice hits, it's only against the boards that he get's suspended. He just needs to be super choosey on the board hits he makes in the future.

That Chytil has quite the shot and quick release. Berard is starting to grow on me (I wish he would ..LOL ) Panarin ,for such a highly skilled player can be such a donkey out there. I wonder if he really gets "the game " or is he just all skill ? Cally is a really good color man.....smart man and knows the game....former captain material showing .And lastly ....not that I am keeping count but doesn't Bergen have as many goals as Kakko since the trade ?????????? Sorry, couldn't resist folks...LOL

We cannot forget that we have been the Hawks for the last 6 weeks. We have been that team that everyone wants to play to end their own losing streak. Until we get back to where we were, there is no guaranteed wins for us.

Yea Hawks are not lookin competitive .. but remember they beat us on DEc 9th....important we play the right way in the third, earlier we beat Montreal 7-2 .. but the bad habits were there, I remember thinkin cannot win consistently playin like that

No call on Respected guy like Folignos shows how the HL Refs target players for calls and give others leeway

Hawks are one of the worst group of skaters I’ve seen this season! I’ve never seen so many players have blow outs, spin outs & falls downs!

PANARINA with his Go to move of the 90 foot shot finally pays off....They are working...but Should be storing up some of these goals for when they play an NHL team

To the point .. Cally is 100%.. time to practice good habits.. up by 3 .. it is game management time.. pucks deep NO blueline turnover's...

I was about to say, what a great shift for the Bread line, the shift before.... it showed some positives. Except I wish Laffy would demand the puck as much as Miller was.

Great shift before Smiths goal except for 1 player…Panarin. I’ve never seen him mishandle so many pucks. He FANNED on a simple wrist shot attempt. WTF is wrong with him?

A Panarina sighting on the elite line! And now Reilly Smith! Looks like we have him for 2 more months! Rangers do oK when a team lets them play with skill

I like that theyre responding from the DC game in a good way. Gotta start getting some momentum. I’ll take .500 as opposed to .000 but stringing together some wins is a big deal right now.

2 more concepts... breakdown the cycle by knockin someone down .. and do not dust the puck off, just shoot

Wow..they actually held possession in the offenive zone and scored...Good shot by CHYTL..I'll put some crow on my nachoes!

You guys really need to watch the replay. JBRO had the puck and instead passing it up to Lindgren, the CHI defender comes back and dive swipes it away from him and sends the puck cross ice to no one... Then Z tries to get it before the defenseman does and that was all she wrote.... https://www.nhl.com/gamecenter/chi-vs-nyr/2025/01/05/2024020632/summary

Not that it matters because nobody watches Hockey on ABC, but the NHl has to be rolling their eyes that this is the game they are showing the "masses"..Two teams with absolutly zero chemistry

GA classic Zbad... glide and reach and when you miss you are not in any position to defend physically or otherwise... it is what it is and not going to change

Yes Cally, that 3rd line of the Rangers have been on fire!! 3G 2A and a collective -11 over the last 7 games...God, remember when Kakkao and Cuylle, were outworking, out cycling everybody in the offensive zone, controlling the puck nd scoring> Fat Bastard nd Dip SHit took care oof that!..Now they are nothing but a ho hum rush line that can't play defense..

Why get back to basics instead of playing rocket science? Ask dr lightskull and dr Frankenstein

Another concept.. shoot to create chaos, it is hockey 101 defenders Backs are to the rebounds and you are facing the play and should get the jump on recovery.. and good things usually happen ... still WTF was Fox doin comin down the slot and trying to deke the puck into the net .. shoot .. damn it

The push to save Laviolettes job as the Rangers man up agaisnt one of the stronger teams in the NHL

There is no reason for Laffy's confidence to be shot..LIke the vets, he has been treated like royaty..but,it is shot, because of the entire team wide dysfunction and the general apathetic play of vets

what a concept.. shoot the f'in puck at the net from a slot position instead of pass pass pass

BTW: It was JBRO that turned the puck over that lead to the CHI goal. He got it back there. Nice goal.

WTF Lafrenière? Trying to pass to Bread when he should have just shot! His confidence is shot!

Went to see Arizona State play Cornell last night here in the desert. ASU won 4-0 against a much bigger, more skilled team. They had the sticks of every Cornell player in the D zone the entire game.. I watch this game and Adam Fox is facing away from Bertuzzi, not playing the man and the puck is in the net.

We’re back to the same bumbling failure to execute basic plays. We’re going backwards again. Why am I watching this? I must be a fucking moron.

RF73 - perhaps the Troubs that played on a broken ankle....Laffy? Panarina? They were the 2nd best line in the NHL last year for Christ Sake!!

Comical start .. first shift allow Hall to circle off the boards into the middle .. untouched.. have to disagree on the penalty .. the knee flex before fallin is a dead giveaway on a dive

All these players guilyty..but why are ALL players playing like this?....Hmmmm...

TD. Re Jones - it's the Ranger development strategy in full bloom don't ya know!!!

I get it..maybe somebody cn throw a big check..or get nasty with somebody..Oh wait, I forgot, it;s the Ranagers without Trouba

What the Rangers are doing to Zac JONES is fucking criminal. LAVIOLETTE is a piece of shit. I hate hoping for this team to lose, but here we are.

So Jbro goes from the invisible man to the second line, makes sense to lardass. Why play your roster when you can lose with the 20 you keep playing win or lose? Back to back games and you don’t play Casey jones. He must be packing his bags.

Even the guy with the most heart takes a dumb stuoid fucking penalty to start the game..unbelievable

Hospo: I agree Trocheck should have a letter, but man he looked/sounded exhausted and exasperated there. I’m not feeling good about this one.

JFC - Personally, I don't tell people how to root, it's their own chioice..I'm kinda with you as I said before but i see the merits in wantting the team to lose just a few more times to get the coac haand/or GM out...Not a good situation

Did the coach quit? No postgame no pregame no defensive system, and he still has a job.

I get waiting better draft station or changes being forced but I’m with JFC- no way I can root against my lifelong team. Just do t have it in me.

Bullshit Ferraro it's not the Coach! And how bout mentioning whaat the fuck Dipshit Drury did to the team over the last 18 months? There is a reason the entire TEAM is dysfunctional and it's not individual players (who share blame no doubt)

Let’s root against the NY Rangers…yeah, NO! Fuck that shit! I’m not a quitter and if I thought these players were, I’d stop rooting for them! What I’m rooting for is this team shutting people up…that keeps me true to my values and true to a team I’ve followed for almost 60 years…

Why the Fuck Does TROCHECK not have an A on his sweater????? This tem is so fucked up

So Rempe’s suspension: I thought 8 games was a weird number, but the 8th game was probably because Dallas plays the rangers that day and they didn’t want a sideshow.

Just curious why when some Nyr are in a slump it’s assumed that they are hurt? It’s their brains that are usually hurt. …. I’m hoping tomorrow will start the cleanup of management.

Hospo yep laffy has been pretty bad, panarin is probably hurting....along with fox....unless playing 30 minutes a game is too much....nahhhhh we have genius as a coach.... seems like miss the playoffs see you next year who the F knows

Jerry/VCP - I want that too becasue of the implications on Fat Bastard and Dipshit but I just can't....I soo bdly want to see tje young kids, even the vets, rise above the shit form Drury and Laviolette...It woujld be nice to see LAFFY and PANARINA remove their head's from their asses as a start...The kid line to make just one good defensive play...and the D to stand up and play physical in front of a second rate goalie....I gave up caring about what we get from ZBAD nd SMith..

Let's hope the Blackhawks have a shutout today on national TV. Maybe that will wake Dolon up and fire the DM/Coach. Hire Messier in the interim on a PTO.

I can't think of a case in which a college coach from a successful program left midseason to coach an NHL team. Carle is the defending NCAA champion. They are currently ranked 6th in the polls and will get a tournament bid. There is no way he is leaving at least until mid April. Also Drury shouldn't get to pick another coach except an interim guy for the rest of this season. Muse or Peca would make the most sense. Peca seems to have the better NHL pedigree, but Muse has a USA Hockey connection which seems to matter to Drury. The new GM should pick the new coach.

tdchi - why are you trying to ruin my first few days of 2025 with Islander news. LOL - Speaking of moves, trades, etc. York18 please stick around more and we can make room on the roster for you. (rf4l - yes that) To let you know your impact, I still credit Larry Gordon for the Oilers dynasty. And your battles with "Clownfish" a.k.a Greg Polis.

TD. That Cole Hutson kid is pretty damn good. Guess what? A 2nd rounder something Dreary loves to flit away.

Yorkie! Great to see you back, even for a short time! Hopefully your reappearance signifies the start of a run, like some cosmic event, lol!

Someone here may have already floated this buy what about Messier as president and he hires a GM who in turn hires his own coaches. Messier would report to Dolans. I think 1 big mistake is having Dreary hold down both roles which has additional challenges having to deal with the asshole owner.

I have been writing for weeks that Houseley must go. It's the easiest, most OBVIOUS move even for the sake of fan bae morale. The very fact that the Rangers will not even do that to me is proof that Dreary has a whole other agenda for tearing this team down-- and the support of Dolan and the ghostly cigar chewer forever hovering. Which is very nice if you are running the Scranton Eskimo Pies or the Hartford Pixies, but not so much an original six with the highest ticket prices in the league. Ripping off your fans by further failing to cut a deal with Optimum/Cablevision and blacking out games on ESPN+ is another fuck you to a fan base that has endured not only 8 decades of 1 Cup hockey, but also the braying of the ignoramus fan bases of the Debbies and the Long Island Iceholes. Again, the last stop on the incompetence train is anarchy, and that is exactly what has been achieved. Houseley still has a job because Dreary still wants him to have a job. The old core (including Troubs and Z-loser) said screw you to him after standing pat, and his answer back was the Brooklyn "no, fuck YOU." As always, it's the fans who suffer-- along with the poor corporations paying for empty seats in the 100's. Ain't it grand? Maybe the midget running the NHL will step in? He's got the public popularity to withstand calling out the team for tanking without a plan (like the KK deal). Meanwhile, I'll just continue to root for the laundry, as always.

It’s hard to look at drury from Dolan’s perspective but I just hope that he’s looking. I have tried to support drury but his accumulation of actions are not easy to defend. And having faith and trust in him today and beyond is not in my vocabulary. Dolan should be searching for a replacement. If he’s not, then it’s on him and he’s become an accomplice. Leadership means taking responsibility and accountability and ownership of everything, the good , the bad , and the ugly. I don’t think Dolan, drury, or lardass are doing that. And trying to only hold the players to it is disingenuous. They will copy whatever the leaders do. And it sure seems like they are doing that. It’s a culture from hell with salvation being almost impossible to find. The revolution will not be televised.

Hey lardass try fixing your defensive game. Maybe by first firing Houseless. Do both of you go to the same haircutter ? What do you call the d system, the keystone cops defense? Either the players are or aren’t playing your system. It’s your job to enforce it if it is. If they are that’s grounds enough for termination for both of you. And for drury to standby makes him an accomplice.

It was good seeing everyone is still here and well, I'll try and drop in again soon. I hope everyone has a great 2025 because the Rangers certainly won't do anything to make it better. Here is to next season lol.

Words of wisdom from lardass ““It’s a little bit of everything,” head coach Peter Laviolette said. “It’s not just the power-play goals. It was the even-strength goals, as well. We gave up four of them. So, we score four and we give up four and that’s too much.”

VCP, my god you are trying so hard to get me to be the old York lmao, I would have taken the bait hook line and sinker years ago. Has he done well lately no, has he iced one of the best teams in the league the last four years? YES, that's just a matter of public record, anyone with eyes, or ears could see that (could have followed this one up with old YORKIE) Just like do your homework, it's public record Gorton himself stated in an interview where there were two occasions where Drury negotiated because things got screwed up with he and the other GM not getting along, go look and you will find it. Happened sometime ago but happened none the less. Find me one GM who hasn't made a few bad trades and I'll show you the shortest tenure of a GM happens. Buch trade goes down as one of the worst ever period. No GM is perfect nor am I defending him like I said he needs to go but assclown avery is not the answer.....HOSPO I think you wait on a coach if you're firing the gm because most GMs will want to choose their own head coach..........TD Hire Mad Mike lmao that would be like a FU to Rangers fans before Dolan sold the team lol. I don't like Drury, do I think he can build this team with a sale? Probably not, I really don't want the number one pick again but certainly looks like we could be headed that way. They could recreate the Smurf line with Hagens Perrault and Berard

Friedman is saying that the Canucks could consider trading both Miller and Petterson. I am skeptical about that one happening. The rumors last year were that VAN wanted Lafreniere and Schneider in a package for Miller.... This year, the rumor is Z and Schneider. If true, I would hope we pass on either package. Too rich. IMO, Shoring up our defense should be the priority.

You are what your record says you are…”Saturday’s defeat counted as the Rangers’ fifth in their last six games, eighth in their past 10 and the 16th in their past 21.”

If we are still likely to miss the playoffs as the deadline approaches I believe Drury will make significant moves….We saw his work as a buyer….Can he do better as a seller?…We will see… This season sucks…

I’m usually quiet on Drury because he’s a total enigma to me. I know the player was a pretty cold guy who was pretty damn good at everything. As a GM in terms of results he hasn’t been impressive and I know that right now it’s time to make some changes but I think it’s impossible to get anything done. That should loosen as deadline approaches. I think Drury is ready to make some large changes. What will that be? He will be judged on the deadline, the draft, and free agency. Let’s just say he hasn’t been impressive but I’m also of the mind that you can fire coaches every season but you gotta let a GM build his team. That includes draft and pipeline. The Rangers have advanced several players thru their system and have a few more that are likely to see good careers in NY. My only hope is Drury doesn’t go big game hunting in free agency to try to make up a team with players who he’s gonna give term and no movement/trade in exchange for lower AAV

You don’t really think Howden was flourishing in NY? He’s one of those guys who moves around to a few teams till he finds the right place, and his game matures. Vegas was a good spot for him.

Hospo works for me pecca as coach ....who knows how many more we have to lose ......GG must be laughing

Regarding CARLE as a coach, I just do not see the point of even thinking about it.....Any in-season move new Coach will be a Goodl Old Boy to straighten this season out...or an internal move (like Peca) just to bring it to an end.....I wan the latter becasue a QUennville, Boudreu, whoever will want 3-4 years...Stay in house..then in the off-season when the current or hopefully new GM figures out the composition n and direction of the squad, a young guy will be the rigth choice (unlike DQ) AND will want the job

Okay york18 one last thing trading 2 picks for smith yeppers nice move.....and of course buchenich for ..... nothing yeppppers a hell of a GM lolololol dude really!!!!sure the want to deal with him because he SUCKs

TD - we agree yet again. Carle should be at the top of the list. Can Drury and Lavy. Hire a competent GM to oversee this re-tool. Hire Carle. Let other GM’s overpay for vets and FA’s-to-be at deadline. Free up some cap space. Tank for Hagens or the consolation (won’t be much of a drop-off) for a top 4 pick. Pick blue chip C, D, or LW. Pay FA’s who fit the image of size, speed, and talent. Avoid Full NMC’s. Sign Laba, possibly Perrault. Can someone send this blueprint to Dolan. If executed, we’ll be cooking with gas again next year. Welcome back York18 - man it’s been a king time man. We’ve kept your shine box warm!, lol. Great to see you again and glad you’re doing well!

Yorky what about last year's trades??? What about smith, what about that center named howden

York18 dream on because you are still in n your dreams. Drury is one of the worse presidents/GM in rangers history don't take my opinion look at his record speaks for itself lololol....and right teams spoke to Drury not gorton okey dokey ...... Keep taking those pills

PERREAULT, player of the game in US 4-1 win over Czechia...And let me say again...If and when LAVIOLETTE gets canned...please, please, PLEASE give Dave CARLE a call. Now my second favorite coach not in professional hockey.

Just going by memory (and I am trying to forget)...but...Drury recent moves..Kakkao for Borgen & pick, Troubs for some Finnish guy, 2 draft picks for Reily SMith, Carrick, Bo Groulx and Ruwhedel as UFAs, Goodrow Waived, Picks for Roslovic, Ruwhedel and Weinerberg at last years deadline, Bonino, Pitlick, Nash, Wheeler AND QUICK as UFAs, picks for Tank, Motte and KANE at the deadline before the Devil Choke Job.....I am missing something good, right?

VCP Dolan is the Dan Snyder of the NHL as for what you think an AGM does lmao, I guess you missed when Gorton admitted that there were teams that wouldn't deal with him directly due to past issues and Drury negotiated on his behalf, but I guess that's still get the slippers in your eyes. Im sure every AGM in the league is over the moon of your lack of respect for their jobs. Remind me never to ask you to write my resume, you could make any job sound like crap.

VCP trades also have to do with teams wanting and not wanting to deal with you. That goes to any GM. His trades have sucked as of late and I don't agree with Goodrow and Trouba, even KK. Did I want Trouba gone? Yes, the way it was done, showed no class. Goodrow was a leader and it shows in how this teams chemistry and fight has changed since his removal

NYSTRANGER - Right about what the NYR Clusterfuck soap opera does to and brings out in the Wall...but gotta admit, even with chaos and frustration, I am pretty proud of all fellow Wallbngers for keeping this fun, interesting and not devolving into pissing contests or anything personal.......Of course, then York18 comes back....We just can't win.....Just kidding there...

AGM yeah a coffeee retriever, get my newspaper ...please give me a break...listen and watch and shutup.....gorton built the team not exactly a great build but Dolan is the ROOT cause he is an AWFUL owner.....spend sure but otherwise jackasss

Also playing fox half the game, most games for a tiny guy ..... should be lavy fired thats drurys job

nehhh....he hasnt made a single good trade. his only 2 good signings were quickie and trochek. Otherwise just look at his trades and signings ...pretty bad...carrick is ok though nothing special.....smith is ...you tell me.....his trades are awful for the past few years...

York: ‘I'm a mellower Yorkie now lol......’, HAHAHA. Give it a week! One things for sure this crap certainly brings out the Wall.

VCP, I guess you forgot who the AGM was during that time, but it was Drury, your hate for him has clouded reasonable judgement.....Hospo, I'm a mellower Yorkie now lol......TD, thanks brother, as for Drury, like I said the guy I met a few times as a player is nothing like this guy who is a GM. This was a team guy, a players player, a leader and a clutch player who his teammates liked. Who this knew version is IDK? I agree on Avery being a joke, fun to watch but more a sideshow than anything else.

To rehash a little more wood for the fire , butchie and Kane are more proof of why drury has to be fired. He’s an ash(ass) hole .

TD…Couldn’t agree more with the coaches challenge bullshit…I come unglued every time one of these occur…Today was ludicrous…Bad for the players and the fans..Also agree on the ridiculous icetime Fox is getting…He started today’s game playing well…With ES, PK and PP time he is a mess by the third period…Schneider can handle more time…

DREW, stop reading here….But man, Cole EISERMAN is to the Islanders what Gabe PERREAULT is to the Rangers. And then having him AND Danny NELSON? I don’t like it at all…

What drury paid Fox and zbad forced himself to get rid of Goodrow and Trouba. Now he’s signed Shazam he has to get rid of more. Kaapo fit a part of the bill. And he had the dumb balls to name Mr k an original home grown Nyr was a bridge too far for a guy getting $6 million and his teammates. Any ufa is better off leaving this pos . They are all trade bait for wrong way .

At this point anyone but Drury including Avery....I don't care Drury is the worse in history....or very close.

PJ _ Yeah, you may be right abiut that on here...But,, The contract thing I get a little (but disagree) because that has to be considered....but he he played late last year on a fuckin still healing broken ankle and don't think the Players didn't know and apprecite that....He is the exact type of D-man this team NEEDED, the intimidation, the fear factor, the battling ..but DRURY pissed that all away..Like you said, with LINDGREN playing smaller and slammer by the week, the D is woefully soft and not a D you want protecting IGOR

Re: AVERY - good way to separate the idiots among Ranger fans is check out the ones applauding this dude for anything outside of not playing on the team any more. The guy is a total assclown. And if this team has any inkling about bringing him aboard, they’ve truly jumped the shark.

York18 - welcome back man. One good thing about the Rangers sucking is that it really does get the wall hoping…re: DRURY, yeah, while I’ve never met the guy, I was thinking his overall attitude would be an asset to the team. I tried to like him as a GM. I tried my hardest. But he’s terrible. Just an arrogant asshole who more or less ruined the pole position GORTON left us by hiring retro coaches divorced from the modern NHL, failing to correct glaring roster problems in the off season and the squandering literally dozens of draft picks to correct problems that existed all season at the trade deadline. The dude is terrible. The only thing worse this team could do would be hire friggin’ Milbury.

And IMO a lot of the ‘inmates running the asylum’ stuff started to happen back when Panarin routinely overstayed his shifts when Quinnless was coach and if was majorly effecting Laffy’s ice time becasue he couldn’t get on the ice. Nothing was done about it then and nothing was done to get these guys to play a system, and stick with it. How many games even last year did the team start totally flat? No wonder they had to come from behind in so many games. Yes they had the talent but did not have the discipline or will to do what it takes to win in the NHL consistently. They all seem to just want to go have fun out there. But not do all the not fun things that are required to be consistently successful. So yes while they were winning all was good but now that it went south they have mentally checked out. Collectively this group,does not have it. And Drury for whatever reason we want to pin on him can not see it or does not have the ability to fix it. In fact I think he created most of the circumstances that are the cause of it. How can anybody expect him to turn things around?

Hospo…Disagree on Trouba…He was criticized big time on this board and many praised the trade because we were rid of his contract….Now that Lindgren no longer plays the game he did our D is not scaring anyone with Trouba gone…

Drury’s machinations to constantly dump salary to sign Shesterkin or player x is all of his own doing. How about not giving out long term contracts with no move clauses? And if that is the only way to get players to sign in NY? What does that say about the first rate, first class organization? Says the organization is shit, to me.

gotta get a little hockey joy where ever it comes.. doin my WO in the gym with the Sharks/Debbies on .. delighted to se the Sharks score with 24 seconds left to send the Debbies to their 4th straight loss....;)

And Goodrow wasn’t worth the money… pure bullshit…. Just like quickie jasper fast… and the list goes on…. Drury is an empty vest protecting his phony baloney job which deep down he knows he is not qualified for.

Again Laff one goal in 20 games and it is everyone else’s fault he is playing like shit..Maybe Laviolette gave him a mean look and he is upset…He didn’t deserve to be put on PP1 and more than earned his way off it…Cuylle should have been rewarded with PP time…He has earned it…

TDCHI - I think Kis, you and I and some others in here were all on the same page about TROUBA..Most of his hate came from your time on X!!!...or from Drury..!!

KIS - re: TROUBA...I hate to say 'I told you so...' but...well...actually, I don't. The people calling TROUBA a sink hole on D had no fucking clue what they were talking about. He may not have been worth $8 million, but he was a very good defenseman and definitely top-4 quality. So to all y'all fans who bashed TROUBA? Made your bed. Now lay in it.

TDCHI - Yep, no structure, scheme or discipline for any of the playersor the team to fall back on when other teams press...Most are trying, but it as individuals for the most part..It's not a team (well, Drury has made sure of that) and there it no leadership

"what in the world can Lavi do about Fox?" <---Well, to start? Maybe not play him 28 minutes a fucking night. Let's start there. Oh and maybe...JUST MAYBE...they can scratch one of the two seventh defensemen slotting in every game and put JONES into the game. Like seriously...FOX is REGULARLY playing 27-plus minutes. Not every other game. EVERY game. It's ludicrous, especially considering how bad he's looked this season.

Jake0104 - re: LAFRENIERE, he's a reflection of where the team is right now. Don't really agree that he's loafing...just the WHOLE TEAM lacks any structure. That's why both of the top lines look like garbage and the grinder fourth line actually looks alright...Don't need structure to grind.

NYSTRANGER - Outside of Qucik, Drury's streak of incompetent/insignificant moves is astounding since he mangled the Rangers season with his Patrick Kane soap opera aquistion..It really doesn't get any worse

York18.... Drury did no such thing....it was gortons team ....rangers had a bunch of players that had career years......that's it.....good luck with that theory.

JFC _I think I m following that, but not sure......I severely doubt exit interviews last season showed that Troubs or Goodrow (maybe our best forward in the POs) were a potential problem ......BOTH wanted to be Rangers and you know their teammates felt the same way..Probably ditto for Kreider and ZBAD..Hell, anybody on a very close knit team but KAKKAO...DRURY did it qll on his own, for his own reasons, and he made a fucking mess of it with his incompetent handlings and then doubled down on it with his fucking moronic letter this season...What a fucking putz......Now, KKKAO, I could have seen Drury dealing for the reason you stated because of KK's (or his agent) public pouting about ice time but nobody wanted to pay...so they kept him and, holy fucking shit, he was a very good two way forward for the best line in hockey....what do they say about the best deals often being the ones you don't make??...but then Fat Bastard tears that to shreds with his vet deference and biased treating of KK...and back to square one with more Complaiants about ice time...so Drury finally acts and gets pennies for dollars being the worthless incompetent GM he is

Hospo when kaapo was on the third line they were defensively solid. He still has a bright future in the NHL. Drury knows nothing about coaching except playing for coaches and watching his coaches. His karma is around the corner because he’s hasn’t been wise enough to avoid it. Messier has more coaching experience than him, and was gm in training for his stepfather sather. I’m not sure why they turned on each other. If Dolan is going to speak to anyone for advice it’s sather.

YORK 18 ...Not suggesting all those players go up front, Vesey and smith for sure... and at least 1 or 2 of the high priced help, whom ever gets the talent you want and can step in... you expect to get a young gun or 2 back on the top end guys ... example ... 94 Rangers ( cup in their eyes) trade Amonte to Chicago for 2 3rd line muckers in Noonan and Matteau ...

Look, I would be more inclined to believe the Drury master plan theory if he wasn’t taken to the cleaners with every trade he makes. Just so bad, so discouraging. No. This guy has lost his mind and is an idiot of a GM, probably fully backed by the bigger idiot owner.

And how amazing is it is too see how long Laviolette stuck with the Old PP1 and then after what, 3 games, he pulls the plug on Lafrenière on that unit and goes right back to the personnel that sucked in the 1st place. Again, what does that tell players about 2-tiered systems of Justice? The PP is controlled by Fox & Panarin and theybarebthe ones who FORCE the perimeter PP bullshit. When the new PP1 began, I warned that they and to play a different style or they would get the same inconsistent results. At first, it looked like they were indeed using a different approach. Today? Same fucking bullshit as before. Lafrenière is useless in that system. He has VISION but isn’t in a position to use it

And Sparky returns??? Wow, time for him to have an ass kicking contest with the one legged Dipshit Drury and Lard Ass...!!

And think about this Wall crawlers….what did Drury learn in his EXIT INTERVIEWS since he became GM? Could it be that he heard things from certain players that made him go the “he’s dead to me” route? Think about that. Players with raw emotions after getting eliminated and feeling free to speak their minds. Who would feel that free? Young players looking to make their bones and get better contracts? Not likely. Veteran players who feel secure enough and mature enough to speak their true feelings? More likely. And if a winner like Drury hears something he doesn’t like, he is likely to make a judgement about players’ futures. And if he is METHODICAL but patient, he’d work to rid the team of those players. The Zibanejad contract is the one that has me stumped,

"Problem is not Panerin or Lafr on PP1. It's Fox." <--play the lottery, folks. 'Cause andrei and I are agreeing for once. Good time to sin, because hell hath frozen over.

Well...just finished watching the last two periods...Gotta say, the physical effort was there nd they never quit...They cared (well, most did)....That was greqt to see........OTOH, stupid, stupid mental mistakes which is a reflection of the coach and it is blatantly obvious they are not built to beat the CAPS in addition to the PANTHERs...which is on DRURY...And you can't win when your best offensive player, PANARINA, is once again (like his last 10 games) an apathetic passenger and Mr. Money Bags, LAFFY, seems to be matching him....Make ZBAD look like he has a pulse! which, in fairness, he is starting to find a little......The 3rd and 4th lines busted their tails but problems there also....CHytl-Cuylle-Berard can generate offense but are a horror defensively, a huge come down from the early season kid line..But that's on Drury and Laviolette...it is so far from a 3rd line of a Cup contender but there are no other options......The less said bout Drury's defense, the better

If anyone is thinking about addressing the absolute FARCE that the coach's challenge is, let's start with this main point: GET RID OF THE FUCKING THING. We don't need buttons. We don't need time limits. We don't need more rules. What we need is to do away with this stupid fucking rule. Either that or get rid of the linesmen. Or employ any number of very basic modern technologies to call guys offsides in real time. Shit, you could use AI to do this very simply...But better yet? Let the fucking linesman do their jobs and earn their pay. The NHL spent the better part of two decades trying to speed up the sport and they put in this stupid rule that slows it down. Utter madness. And so goddamn Micky Mouse. The only thing more ridiculous than this rule is that there aren't more people who loath it as much as I do.

York18 - WTF? Welcome back, man! WOW! I had heard that the A dry rumor was just that…a rumor….and that he was indeed in NY but for another reason. Hey, Avery is a fiery competitor but he’s also someone who loves attention…that’s why he gravitated to social media…he likes to be heard. Nothing wrong with that but I don’t think he would hide the fact that he met with Dolan if it had happened…but who knows? Maybe Dolan told him to keep,it quiet or he would be cut off of any further contact. I am SHAKEN by what has happened with this team and I think Drury has made mistakes with his approach…I think he doesn’t understand human nature and acts like a cold robot, not understanding the consequences. That being said, my instincts/gut tell me he has a plan in place (that has been blessed by Dolan) that will remake this team. No one can deny that he has known how to win from a very early age. Imthink he has known for a while what many on The Wall have been saying but now seem to forget…that this core was never going to win a Cup because it’s too soft, mentally & physically.

New York Ranger all-time great Nick DeSIMONE was placed on waivers today by the Devils. Go get 'em DRURY!!

Avery is a headcase and isn’t to be taken seriously…I didn’t know it was confirmed he met with Dolan…If so very scary.

VCP based on what? How is he better, why is he better, what experience does he have outside of playing the game, who did he learn under? There is not one thing that states he is better, Drury built one of the winningest teams in the league and franchise history we just suck this year, he learned from seasoned pros and was savvy enough to do well. There is not one thing that states Avery will be better, he wasn't a better player , or teammate.

I don’t trust Machiavelli Drury to make any trade. Geez he gave up stuff for Riley Smith

SJW you want to trade away all these players, but who will be on the ice? The team still needs to ice a team and not of AHL players. The team will likely get the number one pick this year. Do you target Hagens our of BC and pair him with linemate Perrault?

Up front..Krieder, Panarin, Smith, Vesey and 1 of Trochek/Zibanejad... prefer to keep Trochek , but he might bring a bigger assest haul that zbad right now.. one of Miller/Lindgren and if there is no future for Jones or Robertson, maybe some mid round picks there... and Quick .. what contender might not want him as insurance against injury ... Garand should be the back up next year anyway ..Can you turn all or some of that into a physical D and young centre... a then with CAP space add critical pieces to upgrade .. I think this can be possible... again doubt it will even come close sadly ..

VCP avery never cared about winning, he cared about Avery, his antics were bringing the lockeroom down, did he care? No, that is not someone who cares about winning. Fun to watch but completely about himself.

VCP I loved Avery till he became a distraction to the team his antics were hurting the team, not helping and when that happens it's not a good thing. He gets sent down and spits in the coaches face and is kicked off the team never to play again. When no team in the league wants to touch you that says a lot.

Avery wants to win....I don't care...loved what he did to brodeur waving at him....

York18 any advice is good who cares as long as drury is gone along with laviolett... I just want Drury out ... What's better than 2 nuts talking to each other......

Play this right and the Rangers could be right back in the mix next year ... sellers at the deadline with assets that teams with dreams of cups in their eyes will over pay for... free up some cap and then target the right UFA's to become more physical at both ends of the rink ...but have no confidence that Drury can get the work done that is needed.. has not demonstrated any strategic foresight to date IMO

Kind of amazing that there has been minimal action by MGMT I guess 2025 or the deadline... Lavy and the core needs to go....keep schnt,miller, borgen maybe, edstrom, laffy, trouchek, cuylle, kreider (3rd line) rest can go.. including Igor no need for him unless they are going to quickly retool but I have zero faith in Drury.. is he fired yet.. is Dolan awake ??

I'm sure everyone heard that Avery was brought in by Dolan to discuss the team, WTF this is a me first toxic guy, he spit in his coaches face during a game after he screwed up. He was demoted to the AHL because of his behavior and this is who you ask advice from?

I tell you what it reminds me of.. cause i grew up in TO .. Ballard era Maple Leafs..

Stranger, I have been around Drury many times, well before he went to management and had you said to me then this is who he's become I'd have died laughing. He used to be a class act, IDK what happened, give a man a little power and he gets crazy, back stabbed Gorton and JD, and after this I don't think there is a team that will touch him as a GM

York welcome back. I takes a really bad run and old timers get pulled back in. Man Drury can’t be gone fast enough. Dolan you awake? That Jackass is just as culpable.

Stevie, lmao shine box had you not said that I wouldn't have remembered, my god what an ahole I was LMAO.

E, I have mellowed in my old age, LOL, no more shine boxes, or skippy or swedish meatballs, well unless im eating them lol. I was watching this team as per usual and was thinking my god, I wonder what the RFC crew is thinking of this disaster on ice. I'd like to say this reminds me of something, but it really doesn't. This is just bad all around. Management has screwed the players, now the players are in turn giving up, which screws well US as fans.

It's the top .. Dolan ultimately ... back to my example .. the old CEO was also a toxic/chaos creator, ego ... BUT we had a good manager and VP and head of HR that kept that in check ....VP retired.. Head of HR got cancer had to step back and all hell broke loose...so without Dolan there is no Drury shenanigans Dare I say Gorton and Davidson would still be here...unless they can create a buffer between the Rangers and the owner.. this will just circle back around every few years

Pj can you name any players who are not playing worse than usual? Guess they all have the flew flu .

That is now one goal in the last 20 games for Laff…On top of just floating back continually on D…For that type of performance he was rewarded by being put on PP1…Well that worked out well….Now it is Panarin who is screwing him up?…LOL…Well guess what?…Z and Kreider have sucked this year and it solely on them…..Same with Laff…Now Miller another case of playing poorly shift after shift and he was horrible again today…Yet Jones continues to sit and Mancini sent down a while ago…And the core is being coddled…Kreider was sat out a game and both he and Z had time reduced…

York send the shine box to the 2 guys that need to go, instead of letting them ruin the next 23 and beyond. It’s a shame but those 2 have failed by shooting themselves in the foot. Dolan needs to step up.

RF I hate to say it but it's Drury, him and Dolan are just playing nasty hardball circumventing rules and contracts that will soon cause another lockout so things like this don't happen again. Drury screwed the league and the fans over in Goodrow and Trouba the NHLPA will not allow this to ever happen again.

Newfie, RF thanks, I have been good, just been busy life takes over sometimes, like anything it's good and bad and it's life......Toxic teams, who is to blame, is there one person, many? Every situation differs, Messier became toxic and look what happened here and in Vancouver. Had you asked me back in 98 if Drury was this kind of guy, I would have said no chance. Something has changed, Galant and now Lavvy, is the coach the problem per say, no? Is the team now tuning out management all together? Yes, that much is obvious, players are not happy, you can trade a team, but then what? This is the same guys who owned it for the last few years, one of the leagues best PERIOD, are they too old? I don't think so, I think mind games ruin a team, you have players playing scared, you remove leadership (goodrow) in a dirty way, no one feels safe on this team atm. Kakko was never going to be what he was drafted to be, but could he have been a solid third liner sure. Then he trades Trouba dirty as well. This used to be thought of as the classiest org in the league, a first class operation, well players don't think that way any more, who's going to be lining up to come here or want to be traded here now? Drury has created a toxic and hostile atmosphere and who the hell would want to come play in that?

Once you create a toxic environment .. the only solution is to rid the organization of it..a player, a clique, a coach a GM ...nothin gets better without that surgery ,, said before I personally experienced a well functioning hard working team,, destroyed by the ambition of 1 person...folks left, some like me retired, productivity dropped.. it's human nature, athletes are no different .. and my sources tell me it got worse after i left...cause the source is still there.. and in fact now runs the whole operation ( goal all along( after the CEO retired ... no one is going to function well in a toxic environment.. other than those that feed off that type of energy or are sycophants

Hello, and Happy New Years to the old school. I don't really know what to say about this years team, other than they suck! Drury has played too many mind games with this team, destroy their psyche and you destroy the team. They have tuned everyone out that isn't skating on the ice. Do you sell the team? You could, only problem is, if Drury does this again it will happen again. Do you change the GM and coach, or change the team? easier to change two then it is to change a team, those left behind still won't be loyal to Drury.

Mf drury has fooled most of us. He fooled sather and Dolan. The result is a bunch of angry people. You think it’s easy to create a unanimous reaction?

Legs, that can happen when the situation calls for fine tuning what was previously created, but the GM handles the PR side of things with a wrecking ball. At this point, it just doesn't matter, not only has Drury turned off several players, he Turned off many fans. I was looking forward, as many others were, to a deep playoff run this year.

This gm and coach cannot get all new players and win the cup. Just like the didn’t win the cup last season. Instead Get a new gm and coach then they will have a better chance . They have taken a team with over 100 points in the last three seasons into this catastrophe. Now that’s progress in the wrong direction.

Panarin in the last 5 games an assist in one and a goal in another. Trade him and you might get a good return if you had a good gm. But they might not want him at the deadline with his tendency to sometimes disappear in the playoffs.

Panarin gets tons of praise on here and elsewhere when he's lighting it up and rightly so. When he's not producing and worse, playing poorly, that deserves to be pointed out. Currently, the lack of offense is one of the several issues plaguing the Rangers and it starts with him. If he cannot get his game turned around, AFAIC he should be approached about waiving his NMC and sent packing. You're pulling in $11,400,000 you have to produce. IMO, it's as simple as that.

Stevie, not at all. I don't have favorite players. Just like i don't hate anyone on the team. Panerin is sure looks a shell of himself maybe due an injury? His whole line looks lost, but then again, he is a playmaker on that line, so the line goes as far as Panerin can take them. If Rangers trade every single player on this roster and it will result in winning a cup next year, I will not loose any sleep over it.

newf: On Laf I sure hope you're wrong and tend to think you are. He's deferring to the old guard and not just with the puck on the ice but in general. That, of course, doesn't excuse the lack of hustle we're seeing too often but that accusation can be thrown at 2/3's of the team most of the time lately. And as Rhet pointed, he's getting shots - with 5 today he led all forwards in that regard. Against the Bruins he led the entire team with 6 on net. He keeps that up, the pucks will go in and hopefully, so will his confidence.

JFC. On Laf and Trocheck. Agreed 100% and I've been moaning about getting Laf away fromP for over a month now. We can see it. Why can't the professional NHL coach??

Andrei don’t forget to name your favorite players who are just as guilty as the ones you don’t like. So it’s basically the whole team but not the coach or the gm. Want to buy a bridge?

Because to Bird, winning for the Celtics faithful was not just a goal, it was a duty. "I had a good understanding that the Celtics paid me to win basketball games. It was my job to win basketball games, so every time I walked out there, I felt like I had to win to make them happy," the Hall of Famer confided.

Andrei change the coach and I’ll show you. It’s been done before and will continue to be done in the NHL. The tail doesn’t wag the dog.

Stevie, if Fox continue playing like he has this season, no matter who the coach is, Rangers will loose more games then they will win. Most teams in NHL will not overcome loosing their #1 D-man. No only Rangers basically lost #1D-man, they also lost #2 D-man as Lindgren have also have played terrible, and they lost #3 D-man, as Miller currently looks lost. Add ZShit mental issues and Kreider going MIA for 30+ games. Show me the coach in NHL that can make this a winning team. So, yes, it's on players.

Rhet.oh and me too ...I hope so as well ...his progess was getting scary good ......BUT ????????????

The answer is just blame the players and get new ones to blame after that. Rinse and repeat. Trade the team and the coach and the gm will screw that up. You have to crack an egg to make a scrambled egg. Guess who the egg crackers are. When the ultimate leaders are the weak link in the chain, you’re doomed.

Laviolette is Dead Coach walking... pretty obvious .. it is like slow motion .. when the axe finally drops.. depending on whom is the replacement .. it may make some sense why they waited so long ... if it is another retread vet lovin coach.. then it is incompetence rather than waiting for someone who is currently committed to be available..

Being 5–16 is bad enough… But it is even more telling that the coaching staff and management are exhibiting any sense of urgency… Just means they are all just protecting their phony baloney jobs.

This team has always been about putting full faith is getting special goaltending, a special PP & a special PK. They have NEVER addressed their deficiency at 5 v 5. I’ve always said that when you depend on 1 PP unit and that unit goes cold, you’re screwed because you never allowed the other unit to have a chance so they are perpetually RUSTY! To win a Cup depending on the PP & goaltending has always been a fool’s errand. Today, our special teams were not special and neither was the goaltending. Quick was struggling the entire game….couldn’t hold rebounds, was not tracking the puck well…he looked erratic the entire game. And yeah, the new PP1 SUCKED but it sucked because all they are doing is playing the SAME FUCKING WAY that the old PP1 played…and that’s 100% on Fox & Panarin….perimeter, perimeter, perimeter. Same old shit, different day with one different player, Lafrenière, whose talents are not being utilized at all on that PP. All he does is jump in off the FO and tip it back to Fox and the merry-go-round-the -perimeter starts all over again….round & round we go! Yeah, Lafrenière is not scoring but he had 6 SOG last game, 5 SOG this game…he’s getting chances but not finishing. Let’s face it, both he and Trochek defer to Panarin…Laf even more than Trochek…they FORCE every pass to him. Problem is, he’s not playing well…he’s pressing….he’s fumbling almost every pass and he’s just not sharp. Laf & Trochek are too set on feeding him instead of just PLAYING THEIR GAMES.

Team D has been an issue since the start .. a long long way fro that 6-0 opener win ... goaltending and a little luck covered it up for awhile but the law of averages finally caught up .. again .. IMO winnable game today but the D lapses, a stone cold PP with no adjustments and... no chance

Can’t wait to hear mumbles with the upside down smile not answer questions in the postgame press conference. Lardass fall on the sword, act like a man.

Newfie... I don't think(hope) that's true. I just think he's stuck in the abyss right now. He'll be back :) ....I hope.

RF4l... I don't know. The Z line was good today and defensively good. If they can dig their ways out of the massive hole that they were in, there is some hope that the team can turn things around.... Chytil's line was bad defensively and Bread's line was just bad. I like that we didn't quit, but the team defense is just plain awful right now.

Rhet..............on Laffy,it may be a stretch but like most young players today , he simply doesn't feel he has to work hard anymore ,after signing that big contract. JMHO

Trade chytil too. He sshould be left out of the group. He gets another hit and he is toast. Everybody should be available

They suck. Worst and most hated team I've ever watched. They are a horrible disgusting group of individuals. None of them have any balls. Id give fox away as well if given a half decent return he sucks To think a player of his ability has inly one goal. Really???? How and why? Plus he is given first team PP. Everybody complains about miller when is fox going to be questioned. He is horrible.

I said caps win by 2 goals I just missed.. more money for me .... thanks rangers and Laviolett

Rhet. He's been sucked into the abyss that is the New York Rangers. He's not alone either. Him. Fox. Panarin. Trocheck. Miller. Lindgren. Cuylle to a lesser degree. Only Carrick Schneider and Chytil seem to have managed to keep ahead of it.

So spicy meatballs in tomorrow against the Gaks. Go Hawks Go. FIRE DREARY AND LARDIOLETTE!!

I was figuring a 10 goal game by the Craps. Things are looking better, just ask ass wipe Lav.

Laffy is just so off. He was flailing at that loose puck. What happened to bull in a china shop Laffy?

Why play Miller at all after the last 2 goals/gifts. Earth to coach/GM you both suck!!!!

Miller got the primary assist on last craps goal. What ever drugs miller is on, it’s not working, try a different drug.

Lavi has got to go. How many times has this team been undisciplined with line changes elbowing penalties offside and and missed simple assignments. Smh. I hate complaining about this team

And that 'first' line has sucked for weeks starting with $11,400,000 man Panarin. If he's not scoring he's a stupidly pricey liability. Laf not far behind but at 1/5 the salary.

We need to trade for a partner for Fox. That guy doesn't currently appear to be on the team.

IMO .. this was a winnable game .. without the defensive break downs... and giving back momentum so easily ...

I have never disliked a ranger team as much as i dislike this team. I didn't even dislike that team that had that big jackass from the devils that came to the Rangers playing center. This team is just horrendous and I hate them. I do not like anything about them.

I am so down on this team I barely enjoyed that beautiful goals, as next shift we suck again

PP issues start and end with the PP quarterback that is Fox. How many opportunities have Fox had to shoot and instead he slows the play down to make a pass. On the last PP, he passed back to Panerin, who was 4 feet away and had a player on him!!! WTF. Sure Lafr have not played well, but all other getting a pass?

RDW. No. But I have higher expectations for Laf. I am hoping he's part of the (near) future leadership core. I want him to recognize that and work harder. Stop deferring to P and T and start doing it yourself. The talent is there. Get your head into it.

The point is less about Laffy, but more that when Z is on the ice on the PP, he draws players to him. PP1 needs more of that, but we also need to change it up a bit more.

Going to call the Rangers power play the Buffalo Gals “round the outside” geez.

sure Cuylle's stick got up .. but he never played the puck .. so the Crap that initiated the hit .. that's interference.. send both ..

PP1 & PP2 should COMPETE for ice time…Laviolette still doesn’t understand this BASIC concept

PP1 : meet the new boss…same as the old boss. No shots. Perimeter bullshit! Panarin is still off and Fox is still not the same player he used to be

Exactly Lavi can’t do anything as Drury created comfort zone with Long Term contacts and then thinks he can correct his trade/contractual mistakes by playing tough guy leaking a memo to 31 GMs which has backfired

Jake, what in the world can Lavi do about Fox? You can't scratch him, can't bench him.

Mess lit up Fox on lazy stupid play that cost us a goal. So what does Lavi do about it ? Nothing because the Rangers are showing Drury who is boss

Messier bang on with the lack of desperation and poor d zone play .. even Subban made accurate points about the poor execution in their own end... agree until that gets straightened out .. nothing can change ...

So fucking frustrating! MISTAKES on both sides lead to 4 goals but that Lindy delay penalty was an absolute killer. So fucking stupid! And 5+ minutes do decide if a skate toe is over the line! C’mon Berard! How many goals has Cuylle gotten taken away in the last 2 seasons? A lot!

Praising the Capitals video crew between periods..I mean that is such bullshit the league should be embarrassed…

My God.. every game it is something .. 2 PP GA .. missed shorty and a "we still have not seen the definitive offside" .. disallowed goal ... even when they play better the results are not

I don’t believe in contracts changing your play but the poor play of Laf since signing has been alarming. Lack of hustle, poor decisions, and no goals are bad habits to have.

So frustrating…Dumb f’ing penalty and we miss two great chances SH then allow a goal…Maddening!

If there is anyone that has taken on PANs personality it is LAF. That dude is just going through the motions, and deserves to sit.

Who posted about Schneider not being on for PP goal against? SMH. And of course Strome scores this game breaking his 9 game drought!

I think offside is a tech issue anyway. You can take human error out of it easily.

A challenge on a zone entry that long before the goal. That is interesting. So you just completely changed the momentum of a tight hockey game off of this? To me, if the goal is 10-seconds or less from the zone entry than fine. Especially if it’s off the rush. This seems like a coaches tool that I’ve seen abused further and further out from the actual goal. The micro amount of offside had no bearing on the actual goal. I what if you have a zone entry a shift that has you in possession of the puck and winning every 50/50. Are we gonna let a team change behind the play and then challenge a zone entry when the goal scorer wasn’t on the ice?

sjw: THats the other way to do it. Once control of the puck is not for the team that went offside it done.

Further on the button idea. Again 15 seconds, if they think it was offside they have to press it. Then they get another 10 seconds to watch the replay. And then they have to decide. if they want to challenge or not. Once 15 seconds has elapsed the play is live. Yes, offsides will be missed, but not that many. We have seen over the years now, that the ones missed are so close it did not have any impact on the play. For instance, this one, Berard has his skate 1/2 and inch further back or 6 inches further back and it doesn't have an impact at all on the outcome. SO if it is really offside where it hurts your team because it was missed, you will see it live and then 10 seconds of replay is MORE than enough to challenge it.

Have been in favour of changing this rule to the initial play... if you score on it it is offside.. if you do not and there is a change of possession or save .. then the initial offside no longer is relevant .. end of controversy IMO

The time spent is ridiculous. The league needs to have a time limit just like the coaches. Did time get added back to the clock as well?

JMO, but you got to split Laffy and Bread up on the PP. Their chemistry is just off.

How many times has Cuylle been screwed out of goals this year? Isn’t that at Lear 3?

That fucking rule needs to be amended. Ione if it takes thst long and if it doesnt effect the play it shouldnt be called a penalty

First, give the coaches a button. Then have 15 seconds of running play time to push it to indicate that they think there was an offside. And for them to be able to see that this was offside...BULLSHIT we just saw the image they were looking at...and from a angled camera you can NOT see if his skate is breaking the plane or not. The heal was far too close to KNOW. the NHL is DESPERATE to have OV winning as much as possible so they can have the Top goal scorer ever in the post season and heading for the cup finals.

New desperately needed rule: Can't see it within 2 minutes the call on the ice stands. Retire Buttman you dinosaur.

They also need to put a limit on replay time for this stuff. Not like 15 seconds or something silly...but 1 minute perhaps?

Maybe Boston needs to call back a play from last game and reschedule it. So stupid. What a dumbass league this is.

When mr anti rangers Ferraro is even saying this is silly...you know its needs to change.

Offside? OK...this needs to be the start of changing the rule here. Enough of the rolling back the clock 27 minutes to find an offside

Every loss matters to get the start of changes that are needed. And it’s all 3 zones of the organization.

Sure the players are responsible but how many GM have released to the press that they intend to trade players and expect no repercussions

2nd period fade.. Ferraro enjoys pointing out the Rangers flaws way too much ....

Stevielegs: Second periods have been beyond bad. Its obviously in their heads at this point.

If they only had a first and third period they would have a better chance of winning

That Chytil line out there again. Coaches need to figure something out with them. Every time they get pinned in their zone even a little the structure breaks down.

Andrei the coaching staff starting with houseless and lardass couldn’t coach an all star team. They are rotten to the core.

Sure the players are responsible but how many GM have released to the press that they intend to trade players and expect no repercussions

Stevie, they have. Rightfully so, just like Mess have being saying the whole game so far that on players as well and that core is not good enough without naming names. Similar to what some of us being saying for month, players have to ne held accountable for the mess we have witness for last 20 games.

Rangers need to find a way to take advantage of that Caps F that is always way behind the play waiting for the breakout pass.

And as usual the Nyr are a clusterfuck In their own end thanks to the coaching staff doing nothing about it.

Dman it Chytil...he does so good for so long a stretch off the puck...then he does that...

I know folks cheered Zib coming off the top PP. And the coaches needed to do something to try to jumpstart the PP. But now the PK focuses on Bread alone. Even when not at his best, the PK MUST respect the shot from Zib. I know some will say stuff about how bad it's been lately, but every once in a while he is going to rip it right in the corner of the net, so they have to defend it...and when Bread is also out there and Kreider is also around the blue paint, that's too much to cover everything. Laf just doesn't garner the same amount of attention, and that allows easier defending of the PP

Good first period…Wild…Agree neither of penalties were holding in any way…Fox aggressive at keeping puck in…Panarin just plain bad….Low % passes and he killed the PP…Have to keep pushing and involving D in offense…Agree R Smith has been awful lately…

rf4l: Yes...because both are true. Finding out trades will happen, or when a trade happens, it's going to have an effect on the mental side of things in the room. They are human, so of course it will. It is also true that it's the players that have to find a way to put it aside and come out and play the game and get right in the head after.

So Messier pointing at Dreary here for fracturing the room by ensuring his shopping of the veteran leadership core went public. At the same time he's also saying the players need to 'man up'.

No to JT. If Elias is available I would discuss but not the type of player we need. We need a Sam Bennett/Tkacuk type. Need Laf to start scoring. Of all our UFA I only want quick back.

Look, to credit Rangers they are playing a much better overall game, even if they loosing more then winning. It's a positive sign, it is required to start building towards a winning team, just like opposite true when team plays like shit, but continue winning and that is a very bad sign. At some point winning stops and team starts freefalling. Just like Rangers were winning at the begging of the season, despite playing like crap. Rangers are improving on not turning the puck over, and have cut down on giving up odd man rushes. That's coaching.

This is the way we know the Rangers can play if they choose to, that said I would like to announce my New Years Resolution. I would like R. SMITH jettisoned to the moon, or anywhere but on this team. He is less than a 0.

I knew when the announcers said STROME hasn’t scored in 8 games he would score.

Rangers are the better team so far. On PP1, what is the point to have Kreider parked in the front of the net if Rangers never shoot from the top of the circle as Fox is always looks to pass?

I’m not sure LAF is the smartest player. WTH was he thinking allowing a breakaway.

Fox is so predictable on the PP right now the opposing team isn't even considering him shooting the puck when he has it...

Rhet: Agree on Quick. Worst case is he get waived if his game drops off suddenly. Though I imagine that if his game fell off that far, he would retire. He doesn't strike me as the type that will hang on just to play poorly

Out of that list of pending UFA's Jonathan Quick needs to be re-signed. He still looks like he's got plenty of hockey left in him.

From drury to lardass to gallant they are all decent at their jobs, but none have excelled in the last few years. The two coaches got over 100 points each season, but shrank in the playoffs. Drury is still learning but the Nyr would be better off with him learning elsewhere. The players are a mystery as is the system that they are playing especially defensively. But offensively they need to improve their mindset and execution. There’s no way they should stand pat this season. The coach needs to go as the next step unless Dolan surprises himself and the rest of the world.

How was he holding? WTF? He was shoving him...how can you hold and shove? Thats the weakest holding call I have ever seen.

Thats what happens when a goalie is not a good puck handler like Igor is....it doesn't show itself quite this loudly, but damn, its nice to have.

Fox need to shoot and not worry if the puck is settled. I get what he is thinking, he wants better control, but had he just fired that he would have had a better chance. Sure it could be flipping and go well high, but still.

Z's line is already buzzing, if Panarin's line shows up, we can beat these guys.

COMark: Agree on JT Miller. Issues seem to follow him. Not a good plan. Now if he was a pending UFA or had jsut one more season left, sure. He seems to fit in well for a couple years, maybe 3, and then issues start to crop up. For a short-term boost to help a team he seems great. But he has a hell of a long deal.

Boy these guys on the ABC broadcast are soooo excited to bash the Rangers. They tried soo hard last year to find things to be negative about with them and they had the best record. Now they are reveling in it and boosting the hell out of the Caps...These guys at the rink are always "picking a side" in every game. It is rather unprofessional...the NHL needs to get better at selecting who does this stuff...well the networks that host the NHL anyway.

COMark - Exactly why trading for JT MILLER, while everything we need on the surface, is a ballsy and risky move because if Van deals him, he is the problem out thee......but MAYBE that/s what it will Take for this organizaation? especially if it gets ZBAD and his contract washed??

#NYR??? pregame stat of the day: Braden Schneider has logged 43:36 of shorthanded ice time this season and has not been on for a PPG against. He is one of only 2 NHL players (Philipp Kurashev) — and the only defenseman — who has been on the ice for 40+ minutes of shorthanded ice time without being on for a PPG.

And agreed. Reacquiring Miller would end up being another Ranger shitshow. For me not if but when...

Cmark. Well said but AFAIC Dreary's trade record is just plain bad. If he's not being outright fleeced he's coughing up extra picks for no apparent reason (other than he's simply not very good at his job).

On JT Miller- seems like there is drama around him wherever he goes. Seems risky to add a guy like that to a fragile locker room

RF- I am one of those Drury supporters that went “silent” I guess. I still hope he has a plan butThe Kakko trade pissed me off and I’m not as confident in his abilities as I was. I still don’t believe he is the backstabber he is portrayed to be here. I don’t believe he “passed” on trades some here say he easily could have accomplished. There are so many variables that casual fans can’t possibly know. I’m not impressed with him currently, but I don’t believe a different GM would guarantee different results. I think we are very quick to think the grass is greener. Every lawn has its flaws.

And I still don't see the Rangers getting JT MILLER from Vancouver...I think they need him too much unless he has more problems in the locker room than just Pettersson...More than likely Petterson goes somehere...if it's NY..it will be the Islanders!!

TDCHI - I hated that Fat tub of Goo Esposito but, as I have been syaing for awhile....DRURY's performance as a GM since the KANE fiasco has been as bad as it gets, criminally inept, basically destroying the NHL team whiile still hving ZERO depth at Center and on D.....But, like the other night, this game is in the hands of the players to overcome Beavis and Butt Head.....Does the Top six show up today against a physical opponent? Can they ply team hockey for 40 minutes and not rely on their goalie? Can Drury's physically weak defense handle the Physical pressure of the Caps forwrds? Does Panarina get his head out of his ass and actually contribute?

Well Dreary had his supporters on here not too long ago. Not surprisingly, they've gone silent.

Today? Yeah. I don't see anything good happening. I kind of feel bad for QUICK because he's going to get shelled. The Caps are basically a better version of Florida. Their defense is utterly stifling. And just nasty. ROY, CHYCHRUN, and FERHERVARY are mean fuckers...and then you still have CARLSON and SANDIN to run the puck on offense. I'm tempted to just sit this one out and spend my tube hours today on the US' tilt against the Czechs.

In fact, DRURY is torpedoing to a level of bad GM'ing occupied by very few...among them, Peter CHIARELLI and Mike MILBURY. He's damn close. I'd say at this point, he's the worst GM the Rangers have had in modern history. I know folks here hate Phil Esposito...and he might have been worse...but outside of DRURY's draft record, signing TROCHECK and signing QUICK, he's been a fuckin' disaster. Like real bad. I feel I can safely say that the Rangers were on the path to a cup before he came here, and in three short years, he's gotten them on a path to a rebuild...And the ONLY reason I still hold any faith for this guy...his ability at the draft table...that could still very well go south in two years if all the chips don't fall right. As it is now, the Rangers have a very mid collection of prospects, with only PERREAULT and maybe OTHMANN shining as possible top line players. ..even watching some of the players in the World Juniors, I'm wondering what the fuck he was thinking with the EMERY pick...but yeah. Keep on wheeling, Captain Clutch.

NYStranger - I mean, I think there's an argument for and against signing PANARIN when they did. I started in the 'against' column, and now I see the virtues of the 'for.' The combo of PANARIN, Z, KREIDER, TROUBA, FOX and SHESTERKIN was a hell of a core. Still is. But what they needed was a coach who sees value in playing young players. And LAVIOLETTE, ironically, is the closest they've gotten to having that sort of coach. The HUGE misstep here was not canning QUINN during his third year and an almost equally huge misstep was hiring GALLANT as his replacement. But to be clear, PANARIN was a GORTON move and at least had a plan behind it. DRURY hasn't the foggiest clue about what he's doing.

As one of them said from the blue seats, signing zbad for 8 years and no movement means drury the genius thinks he’s the main player for this team. A gm for all seasons has left his mark and has displayed his superior ability. He still thinks he’s the little league hero who has morphed into a superhero gm and a president beyond reproach. That’s a vest full. He definitely has shown his talent to anger almost everyone in Nyr land.

Td I would take that what if even farther back. What if they didn’t go after UFA Panarin? It was not the right time to get him. Maybe 2-3 years too early when looking at the rest of the rebuild-I mean- re-set. Zero patience coupled with really bad decisions on top of incompetence.

Lardass “ not playing defense “ is why you should be fired…. “I think that mindset of delivering pucks — whether it goes in or not — create something,” Laviolette said. “Opportunity, second opportunity, offensive zone time, not playing defense. So there’s good things that come from delivering the puck”. …. You should get a delivery that contains your walking papers.

K miller probably should have stayed as a forward where brain farts are not as noticeable.

VCP - That's what i have been saying for awhile about MILLER.I still think his upside is huge, has shown hints of it, and am afraid to deal him...but...I understand what the others are saying about him that he may never "get it" as a D-man....A big decision for DRURY..not another one he can mess up like all the others

Listening to the post podcast I know most here hate brooks but, Boyle is great. I agree with their sentiments on keeping miller ...he skates like the wind ,, has only been a D for so long....can't teach size.....he needs more time he was awesome last year in the playoffs possibly missing trouba ....shit happens but I keep miller. I rather trade Fox who can't skate to save his life and is pretty small. Now if leetch comes out of retirement I take him over fox,not even close.

Petterson put on IR as a formality..due back before Vancouver hits the road..Canucks probbaly waiting to clear Miller out first!! Or Petterson!!!

Lardass words of wisdom and baffle you with his bullshit, especially that he likes big d men … not you mr jones…. https://youtu.be/-cqRvIxXApE?si=1nrOY9w8pXZ03TUK

HOSPO - LOL, yeah losing him instead of HAJEK would've been a hindsight forehead slap...but losing him to keep JONES is even worse, because JONES could've easily been sent down instead of rotting on the bench like he did for weeks on end. And the insult to THAT injury is that we're NOW likely to lose JONES for nothing or next to nothing now that he's getting benched for BORGENSTEIN and the Finish Alphabet Soup. I don't know which is worse: his asset management or his coach's bench management...DRURY took the choice position GORTON left him, wiped his ass with it once and flushed it down the toilet. That fucking idiot should be launched into the sun. Real close second to my least favorite character in this organization right now.

I tried to support the trade because it was Dreary's first significant deal and I desperately wanted him to be the real deal. I tied my hopes to Sammy Blais hoping he'd become that feared bruising 3rd line either who'd pot 15 to 20 goals and 40+ points. *SIGH* He lost me on the Copp deal and like you with Buch I was in the minority in here with my opposition to it. AFAIC it was worse than the Buch deal, albeit notb6 much. Both suck. The Smith deal is almost as bad a fleecing but in a smaller scale. Ditto coughing up a 4th for crud. And the KK trade may end up bring the worse...

Just to highlight how much of a fucking idiot this GM is...Imagine the Rangers had this happened: Instead of trading BUCH, the Rangers deal STROME. Let's just say hypothetically they get the same return: A grinder and a second rounder...Let's also undo the madness of trading away a young physical center and bring Brett HOWDEN back into the mix...and for the sake of shits and giggles, let's assume they find a semi-competent coach capable of playing a young player...the 2021-22 Rangers could have been BUCH-Z-KREIDER, LAFRENIERE-CHYTIL-PANARIN, KAKKO-HOWDEN-GOODROW, BARRON-ROONEY-BRODZINSKI/GAUTHIER or who the fuck ever. And on D, FOX-LINDGREN, MILLER-TROUBA, TINORDI/HAJEK/LUNDKIST-SCHNEIDER...So no need for the VATRANO or COPP deals anymore...that gets you a 2022 first and second rounder, and a 2023 fifth rounder. No need to pay to get rid of NEMETH...that gets you second rounders in 2025 and 2026...no need for VATRANO..that gets you a 2022 fourth rounder...Take your pick on needing MOTTE, but he buys you ANOTHER fourth rounder in 2023. Let's go ahead and buy Justin BRAUN...oh and with BUCH signed? Guess who else can hit the bricks while he's still a prospect? KRAVTSOV. He was probably still worth a late first rounder back then...maybe a second and a third...And if we cut out Ryan REAVES too? ANOTHER third rounder in 2022...And just to save you contrarians the trouble? I already capped this out. TOTALLY compliant. And to add insult to injury...you know who else was a free agent(more or less) in 2021? Coach by the name of Jim MONTGOMERY, who was an assistant with the Blues that season and then broke an NHL record with the Bruins. That lineup is tough, fast and talented and would've given the NHL a run for its money...but instead...we got one disaster after the next and a GM that just fucked one thing up after another. THAT year alone probably ruined this core's hopes for a cup, or at least severely diminished them. Bad moves. Bad roster. Bad coach...BUT they overperformed so no one called them on it.

TDCHI _ I though I got that by saying EMBERSSON was then put on waivers..and phewwww..I thought you were gonna bring up Libor HAJAK! ;)

RF4L - DRURY screwed up on the BUCHNEVICH trade by fucking trading him in the first place. Now, I'm sure a certain someone will chime in and try to claim that BUCH was going to cost too much and would've caused cap problems...but that's a load of fucking horseshit. The Rangers had every ability in the fucking WORLD to keep BUCH...an extra $2.6 million is all it took...but they tossed that money and more at GOODROW and NEMETH(combined cap hit of $6 million), and at a time when they could've VERY easily traded away Ryan STROME, who they lost for absolutely nothing...DRURY traded BUCHNEVICH because he thought either KRAVT or KAKKO would rise to that spot. Little did he know the fucktard coach he hired in GALLANT had no intention of playing ANY young players on the top lines...So GM on a different page than the coach. Both of them staring off into blankness with not the foggiest clue of how to assemble a roster.

Ya'll are missing the BEST part of the NEMETH-EMBERSON debacle: They lost EMBERSON for nothing because...now wait for this punch line...THEY DIDN'T WANT TO DEMOTE ZAC JONES!!! Oh and did I mention? JONES, at the time, was NOT waiver-eligible. I won't even get into the fact that they could've just waived GUSTAFSSON and he probably would've cleared...and they could've kept both AND had JONES skate a full year on left D AND been set for the right side after TROUBA was moved. But hell. Look at me trying to impart logic on the the fucktacular world of GM'ing according to Mushbrain DRURY.

As for JT MILLER? I don't think I need to tell folks here my feelings on him. I personally mused it might make sense to swap him with Z, just because maybe that's who PETTERSSON needs...a solid countryman that plays more his style of hockey...But I just don't buy any of it, to be frank. I'm not sure I buy this idea out of Vancouver that PETTERSSON and MILLER are feuding anything beyond the ordinary words occasionally exchanged in the heat of the moment. And I don't really buy this idea that MILLER really wants to come back to New York or that the Rangers really WANT him back...even though he IS probably what they need...but I just don't see it. Who knows though? My thoughts on MILLER are that he's got some demons, but that he's a fiery guy. Maybe if the idea is that they bring him back and give him the 'C'...I don't know...regardless, I just don't see anything that bombastic happening...Even less so, though, do I see PETTERSSON coming here. Not a fucking chance. MILLER? Meh? You never know.

One of the most dominant lines I've watched in the World Juniors was PETTERSON-ANDERSSON-NYLANDER. Two out of three of those players turned into massive underachievers, and the third is well on his way. Oddly enough, if I was the Canucks? I would reunite those three and see what happens. Strange as it was, ANDERSSON was the muscle on that line. He was a bulldog. Always going to the net. NYLANDER and PETTERSON absolutely FEASTED on the space he gave them...that silly thought aside, I don't see a way on this planet earth that Elias PETTERSSON ever pulls on a Ranger jersey while he's still under the age of 35. He's a very talented player, but if the idea is to shed ZIBANEJAD and bring him in? Well, that's a pretty silly plan.

Bruis just extended Big 4th C KASTELIC for 3 years, when do they deal UFA to be Trent Frederick? Just curious..

VtRanger - LOL, if the GM of the team you announce for picked that sad sack right before Rob THOMAS, Josh NORRIS, and our own Fil CHYTIL? Man, I tell you what: I'd be pretty quiet about him too!

RF4L - I got lambasted for my take on the BUCH trade when it happened..Cap this cap that..The return was horrific..other moves should have been made instead..Anyways, yeah, after seeint the retunr on Kakkao and Troubs, nothing has changed and why I worry about any deal he makes....but, law of averages, right? In any event, it will be a ballsy move if he goes for JT (right or wrong is another story). will have to give him that

Hospo. Dreary screwed up on the Buch return (should have been a 1st not a 2nd) and has been screwing up on the trade front since. I have zero faith in him. His next deal will be thw degree of fleecing he experiences not if he'll get fleeced.

RF4L - Of course I was! And get this, Emberson was the return when we dealt 2 2nd rounders (2025, 2026) to Arizona to take Patrick Nemeth off the Rangers hands after Dipshit brilliantly signed the Swedish AU pair to baby sit Nils Lundkvist (who?)...Some more great moves all around bought to you by Dipshit Drury..But it gets better,,than he just waives Emberson! You can't make this shit up

Hospo: Perhaps you're being sarcastic but Dreary acquired Emberson then let him go. More crappy asset management by that nob.

VCP - True about rumors but they are a good distraction...Can Dipshit Dickweed engineer a mega 3-team trade?

sjw - I forgot, who was the GM that let EMberson go? And will Mancinni or Robertson follow?

Rumors are generally BS so many of these youtube that have no life just spreading BS....kyperos who i would believe said mika will only go to TOR.

More evidence in the culture issue.. rather get a retread than give someone we already have a chance...https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/oilers-emberson-happy-to-go-unnoticed-as-young-career-continues-to-blossom/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR2y7a8_UZg5q_qoyLGpRkpQFG4hppbnS59yEghPcBS3lT6DEIYq72LxyEk_aem_3uhUBIXHhJDb4B3u__fMSA

And don't the Canucks still own the rights to KRAPSHOT? so JT could have somebody to verbally abuse when he gets to NY..He comes, both Miller and ZBAD havd to be gone, they would crumbole even more, if that's possible....All that said, I don't have good vibes about dealing Keandre Miller

If there is a miller in the miller trade, ERangers will have to get back one of Myers, Soucy or Desharnais, probably the latter...

And I want REMPE back in also..LOVE what he brings...but the guy better get his act together or he will be Hollowegged out of the NHL

Handcuffed , Schmancuffed..Every GM deals with the Cap..Excuses my ass...How long has Drury been GM of this team?...It is HIS TEAM..You get the big Bucks, figure everything out...Every fucking move that numbnuts has made to effect the NHL team since KANE (and even before) has been a negative except quick....UFA's, deadline deals, managing players/locker room while dealing with potential, idiotic extensions...Just take a look at them all......DipShit is as bad as they come...And my expectations? Simple..WIN...Not quit..Not kick the can down the Road..Win...Hey, that's my problem

Eklund just killed any Miller to the Rangers trade...by declaring it'll happen this weekend.

DD drury is doing ok and the results are showing this season until he blames his coach. He’s a fig newton of his imagination.

Agree Rempe should be back in as soon as eligible…I thought Smith was actually ok but lately he has been terrible…Can’t bury chances and his D play has dropped off significantly…

andrei: True on how handcuffed Dreary was last summer but that doesn't excuse his horrible trading record. GMs must start to drool when they see his number light up their phones. This guy comes off as such as amateur when it comes to most of his peers. Hell, he's even managed to get fleeced by Kyle Dubious for chrissake.

Fix the Rangers, fire Drury; he had his chances and now look. let a new GM/coach come in assess the team and then and only then move players as needed. Mark Messier is my choice. Oncourse Lav would be fired also! Can't happen soon enough! Better then letting young soon to be studs go for nothing in return.

Andrea - be careful what you wish for. If Drury is stewarding any trade you know we’re coming out on the shitty end of that deal. Hope it doesn’t involve our first. Has a legit chance to be top 5

Hospo, I'm really puzzled by your expectations. It is so easy to say roster sucks!! Cap is cap. What roster budling did Drury screwed up? What moves he could have made last summer that would have dramatically improved the roster? Drury sure made some questionable moves, but salary cap is a salary cap. 99% of Ranges roster was set in stone last spring. Drury had 1 roster spot open and about $1 mil in cap room. You don't like Goodrow move, fine. Then Goodrow could have stayed. No Smith. Fine. Whom didn't Drury get for $1 mil in cap room. He signed Carrick , $1 mil x 3 years. So no Carrick. Fine. Who plays wing with Bromance if everyone on the roster could not mash with those two? Option is between Vesey, JBro and Edström. Jones makes it as a 6th d-man. You also have to consider cap room next summer, where you have to start cutting players just to clear enough cap to sign Lafr, Shesti, Cuylle, Miller, Lindgren, Jones, Quick, Kappo, Vesey.

Interesting decision coming up- REMPE is due to come back just in time for the next NJD game. After the last showing, and the abuse Rangers took with no response, I know what my decision would be. I would sub out R. SMITH, move VECESY to his spot and put REMPE on the 4th line.

Canucks would be fools to deal Miller over Petterson if they care about winning a Cup..and if they do, they desperately need fprward physicality coming back..Rangers don't have that to give..Well,, maybe LAFFY and Cuylle

E - Agree and disagree.. To me , Drury and his non stop incompetence with roster building and team construction is where it all starts..laviolette has magnified it with his decisions and ice time management this year..ANyways, I also have made a point of saying that Lard Ass is only making due with the D Drury has now left him with and the consistent lack of physical forwards...still, I don't think Fat Bastard is innocent either..Look at the players HE targetted for his first season...Bonino and Gustaffsson..And constanly playing the finessey forwards over the hard working and as close to physical the Rangers have...Yeah, it's all mangled in with his deferring to the vets..but it was still there...I thought it was better last night with no forward getting less than 10 minutes, but it's still the ZBAD show

In regard to the CANUCKS: Brad Richardson recently said that when he was with the Canucks, he told JT Miller to back off Petterson. Richardson identified that Miller's brand of "motivation" would have the opposite effect on Petterson. Richardson get's that different people need to be motivated differently. Miller didn't listen and that's why they are where they are today.... Richardson would make a good coach/GM, Miller would make a good Chris Drury :)

PJ: The Bruins broadcast is actually much more tolerable now that Jack Edwards has retired. I was pleasantly surprised. They actually said a lot of respectful things about NY's offensive potential. It was a nice break from the constant babbling we get from the MSG play by play team.

The story out of Vancouver is that Miller has repeatedly targeted Pettersson verbally due to the latter's too often under-achieving ways and it really kicked in during last year's POs when Pettersson struggled big time to produce (in 13 games he scored but a single goal and 6 points). I recall the media being all over him too for disappearing when it really counted. Last year Pettersson scored 34 goals and 89 points and the year before that 36 and 102. He turned 26 2 months ago and is a centre. His cap hit is $11,600,000 and includes a full NMC that kicks in July 1. It ends July 2032. Miller, who turns 32 in 2 months, is pulling down $8,000,000 and will do so until July 2030. I don't follow the Canucks at all so I've no idea if Pettersson is a a wimpy fellow who disappears when the going gets tough but I do know Miller has had his issues now with 3 teams. Given he makes about the same as Panarin, fitting Petterson in under the cap both now and more importantly next year, especially with Igor's pending massive raise, would be challenging to say the least. But he's nearly 6 years younger than Miller, is a bonafide top 6 (if not top 3) centre and therefore, would address the single biggest gap in the Ranger organization. Tempting I'd say.

Dd drury can now say optimum was bad luck for him..,.who needs defense…https://youtu.be/8OuUJ340luM?si=7ox7yydWcc9gCJ9b

Skin on skin thinks a lot of bullshit….a coach for no more seasons and plenty of reasons….https://youtu.be/dfXIR7dgzeY?si=8XmHMoxBJoMyam9H

Crispy creamer…. List in the sauce….https://youtu.be/IhDco7PYO_8?si=mrZ07Ta9YXpHgVri

HOSPO: I dont think this is the team that Lardass wants at all. You look at his teams in Nashville, DC, Carolina? These were teams filled with big boys and hard hitting. Lard is coaching what he has. But I dont think for one minute that if you were to talk offline with Laviolette after his debacle in NY ends he'd tell you the same thing.

If DD was doing his job he would be on offense pursuing guys like pettersonn and mariner et al . Instead he just wants to get rid of weeds and have nothing to replace the empty space. He should go back to playing with his LEGO toys and flipping some pizzas. The game has passed him by too. His claim to gm fame is signing zbad and Shazam.

Sos you take away the goalie saving your asses , you lose. Lardass has no defensive system. The guy is burnt out and ready for retirement. He needs more speed. He might be smoking something else. But him and his dumb boss want to blame the players for everything. That’s the culture DD drury has delivered. Tinker tailor soldier sailor is the brain rust in the land of make believe.

Yep...The soap opera in Vancover is giving the Ranger Soap opera a run for it's money..So many reports from former players and Media guys (Bizz-Douche, Kypreos, Brad Richardson) regarding the friction/hate between JT and Petterson with the Universal opinion being that one has to go to save the team....It does fit in nicely with all the Ranger and Leaf rumors, that's for sure....Two things, in Vancouver's game tonight, Petterson was a scratch (not sue if healthy or not) and Demko got hurt ..again..

In regard to KYPREOS: He is both correct and incorrect. The ZBAD rumors are not new, they're at least two weeks old. Allegedly, Z would be willing to go to TO but not Vancouver; Also that MILLER would be willing to go to the NYR but not to TO. The Nucks are also considering moving PETTERSON instead. He is in his final year before his full NMC kicks in while JT currently has a full NMC (if you didn't know, Miller and Petterson don't like each other. VAN prefers for the two players to work it out instead, but it isn't going so well). You might be able to work out a 3-way with TO but that still remains to be seen. Stay tuned, I guess.

You take away the spectre of Trouba's big hits and intimidation nd the Rangers defense is hard to care about or watch..They need a bruiser big time but they don't grow on trees...Ditto with 2 physical forwards to play top 9...Smith is very, very hard to root for......But, the firsst step is to play consistent team hockey with or without Laviolette..tonight ws one step forward..will the Caps game be nother..or, as Bruce said, two steps back???

Our defense still rots...keep Schneider and miller (yeah I know I am crazy) he has size and skates like the wind... Borgen unsure ....the rest can go.... bring up mancini when ready... Trade jones to Winnipeg with pionk...yep trade Fox toooo....

Yep I take miller over ZBAD twice on Sundays and 7 days per week. I find it hard to believe he would want to come back here from Vancouver it's a beautiful place compared to this shithole....better team better owners better coach.....I don't believe it for a minute...kyper I have no idea ...

As The WHO said, I won’t be fooled again. This team was very lucky to win this game against a horrid Boston offense. Caps will destroy us even with Wuickie standing in his head again

A win is a win…Not perfect but decent effort by most….Quick was terrific and he will have to be going forward…Panarin did look lost tonight although he set Laff up a couple of times that resulted in good chances…Miller is still an adventure and I don’t believe we have a line that you can count on defensively…Maybe Carrick line but even they have issues…Chytil not near as visible in this game….On to Washington…Won’t be easy…

Baby steps, but that sure was ugly at times. Watched on NESN instead of MSG, which was a nice change. Boston crew was regularly commenting on how bad our d-men are, especially defending the rush. Entry was described as "way too easy." I honestly don't see how Urho is playing over Jones. At least platoon them. Can't remember the Boston crew even acknowledging that Urho is a former B's 1st round pick.

Kypreos was saying earlier today that only location JT Miller is willing to waive his NMC is to the Rangers and ZShit could be heading the other way, plus some additional sweetener’s. Let’s hope it is true. Will gladly take Miller over UP40.

Boston’s weakness is very similar to the Rangers. Entire offense is going through a playmaking winger, and when Pasta is going, Bruins are a very strong force to deal with. Same with the Rangers and Panerin. This season, Pasta is human, just like Panerin. Not a bad game by the Rangers. Quick was amazing. Some wonderful saves!! Craps will be physically stronger then Bruins, and they can score. Tough game.

Bad News is Laviolette will receive 2 year extension after the game! Love the win for the now but this team is a thousand miles away from having a team constructed to compete in the POs....if that is still a goal..

Let's get to 500 then lose again.... Drury has to go, lavy has to go core has to go

New year, new results! Other than Quick, it wasn't pretty...but I'll take it. And anyone who always wished we took Wahlstrom can let that one go....that kid was pretty terrible tonight.

No Panain, Smith or Miller on the ice at the end. Loved the D there by Z, Kreider, TRO, Fox and Lindgren as the clock ran down. Far from perfect, but sometimes the smallest things can be the most important for a team to end a slump. Z and Kreider really needed a game like this. Hopefully, we can build on this.

Team is a disaster in their own end... JFC31-- 100% .. did u catch Fox's stupid pass just as you described on the 6on 5.. further to our discussion earlier .. nobody can tell me that any of Jones, Mancini, Scanlin or Robertson is not better than Vaakanainen or Borgen ....those 2 are horrid

A sure fire Hall of Famer Quick showed them how a professional handles themselves. Kreider playing aloof and soft, Miller has no hockey sense and Panarin was drunk. Bruins are bad. The Vakanien (sp) guy looks like he never played hockey before.

RF4L - Hurt? Not trying? WHo knows? either way, he sucked,,Like in a horroor movie (The Hidden?), maybe the disease or entity jumped from ZBAD to him???

Rangers with a bit more detail to defense to help win the ugly, sloppy game..But, a baby step...Helped that we finally got a goalie to win a game!

Seems like every time Panarin struggles he's hurt. Bet he isn't. Just being part of the vet leadership group.

NYR's doing a nice job of not letting them the opportunity to pull the goalie. So far.

Not a pretty game but Rangers actually doing a decent job of mucking things up in the neutral zone and in getting back..

way off..a lot of fly bys nd staying away for Panarina...one of the worst Rangers on the ice....so far

Something is way off with Panarin…and so, of course, the whole line is off! Is he still battling an injury?

I am so tired of the Rangers trying to MAKE PLAYS at their own blue line instead of safely getting it over the line! They could just chip,so many lucks out of the zone but the stop, spin and throw it towards the middle, trying to make a pass IN THEIR OWN ZONE! ENOUGH! Just get it the fuck OUT!

sjw - The Rangers also seem to employ the Beehive defense where, like all the six year olds i coached, they all flock to the same player or puck

Rangers really like puck watching and all 5 guys drifting to the strong side .. leaving the weak side wide f'in open .. cue Quickie save .. They are creating chances but more often than not fumble it away without a shot .. Bruins have been a little sloppy themselves .. Thier cast describes the Rangers D zone play as "indifferent"

Good work by the 4th and 3rd line..I think somebiody had a talk with Edstrom a few games ago..Finally playing like a guy his size should

RF4L - Panarina has sucked with the rest of the team..1G in his last 10 games..His go to being long range shots

SMITH, the vet, a rookis mistake being asleep on coverage...just get a 7th rounder back for him

Sick of watching Rangers players reach with their stick rather than take the stride or 2 and close off.. Edstrom weakass play just caused that mess..

And holy shit, the humn Buzzsw with a goal in addition to ZBAD??..JFC - we'll have to grfee to disagree big time on the coach thing

Wow...guess I gotta go back to missing the 1st period again like last year!!...Maybe I was right about this being a player's game?

Well at least Berard is playin the right way ....a fortunate period rather than great ... decision making remains a mystery both in their own end and on attack .. several times they created opportunities for the Bruins to counter with speed and numbers with bad decisions

BGet Laf off that line. He's deferring to his linemates way too mych. Another pass off when he should gave shot.

Someone needs to tell this guy that he can transfer his VCR video to a MP4 video file. Just saying. It's 2025.

Hopefully that starts a positive string for the team. How many times would we see something like that just take an unlucky bounce off the post for us.

The life has been sucked out of almost everyone. I saw Cuylle give the puck away twice in a single shift.

Hard to listen to visiting teams casts.. accurately calling out the disorganized soft play in their own end...

SJW - good post about starting to look at this team & season as adversity possibly leading to long-term opportunities! Or we can just keep talking about what sucks and who sucks. I’d like to get excited by some good trades that lead to a NEW CORE & NEW APPROACH and replenishing the draft picks. Or again, we can predict how any trades Drury makes are gonna suck and how he’s not capable of doing anything worthwhile and how we’re doomed…

Hospo - gotta disagree about young coaches shying away from the Rangers. Its an Original Six team, very prestigious and you’re underestimating AMBITION…

E - Well, when you get rid of guys like TRoubs (yeah, i know the soap opera fucked him up too) and Goodrow, it's hard for the team character not to take a hit...But this is the team that Dipshit and Lard Ass wanted..Even after seeing what the Panthers did to them and the Changes the Caps and Devils were making..Incompetence run amok...

NYStranger - Ouch...I thought Kevin Stevens would be the last time we used the words "colostomy bag"...that alone shows how bad it is!

I place odds at about 70% that Queneville will be the first call the Rangers make if they’re planning on a coaching change. I am not in love with Laviolette in fact I hate his scheming. But when he goes Laviolette will be fired because his teams character sucks.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nhl/former-devils-defender-placed-on-waivers/ar-AA1wS0lM?ocid=msedgntp&pc=HCTS&cvid=ae59fa458b634c859d880ec1f280f6d3&ei=27

Rhet yeah it is pretty bad when I Get thoughts like hoping Sather straps on his colostomy bag and flys in to take over!! Yikes

Interesting trade rumor out there: Toronto allegedly has interest in ZBAD. The Leafs are looking to add a center and are willing to add payroll (Matthews looks to be going to LTIR.... rumor is that Z would also be willing to waive for TO)... Leafs are also rumored to be interested in moving Marner for Petterson but not interested in doing a one-for-one. Maybe we could get involved where we get Petterson, TO gets Z and Vancouver gets Marner with the Leafs getting some other pieces? ....Then I remember that Drury is our GM so there's little to no chance of that happening.

Drury is the common denominator here. Just think that giving Buch away was one of his better moves. Uugh

TDCHI - You are torturing yourself! :)..If Laviolette goes, the only in-season replacement will likely be somebody from the Old Boys club..or..somebody already on staff (Peca?)..I think the latter because the former will want a multi year contract..which is bad for both sides..A young coach wouldn't want to touch this stench until big changes are made in the off season...Then again Dipshit, at least as of now, is the guy to be making the changes

Damn TD, I’m right there with you that one. Leonard is one damn good looking player! I would trade just about anything to get him in the Rangers. I’d do Fox straight up for him but don’t think Caps would right now. If you could get Hutson it’s a No brainer. Drury doesn’t have the skillset to pull that off

Td I would do that deal in a NY second. I might do it straight up for Len I have soured a lot on Fox.

Continuing my WJC peppering of posts...The Dave CARLE would be a fantastic choice as a coach. I don't give a shit that he has no NHL experience. Crazy to watch his team of mismatched-but-talented players demonstrate more structure...and I mean A LOT more structurethan anything the Rangers have played thus far this season.

Swiss have a kid playing at 15: Jonah NEUENSCHWANDER. Dude is already 6'3, 180 pounds. Draft eligible: 2027. Always amazed when they get kids playing in this tourney THAT young. MICHKOV is the last one I remember seeing.

Adam FOX the the Caps for Ryan LEONARD, Cole HUTSON and Rasmus SANDIN...who'd do it? I think I would...

And man, what the hell can we trade to Washington for Ryan LEONARD?! Think I'd move just about anyone not named FOX, CUYLLE or LAFRENIERE...

Switzerland just getting rag-dolled. I mean, not a surprise...not even sure how this team got into the medal round...but still. Real question is whether the U.S. can step up for a well-rested top opponent. They got a tired Canada and a rested Finland. The beat the former and couldn't do much against the latter.

RF4L - Bigtime. And I cringe at the thought of bringing in Bruce fucking BOUDREAU if LAVIOLETTE leaves...or QUENVILLE...or any of these recycled pukes. This team needs a young coach that is outside of the Good Ol' Boys network.

Hospo - Hahaha...well, I think we'd be better off throwing a tree stump out there to play defense...HARPUR...that dude is SLOOOOOOW.

I can't even stress this enough: If the Rangers can get Gabe PERREAULT and James HAGENS on a line? MAN. THAT would be worth all the shit we've endured thus far this season. Sooo...BANG ON LAVIOLETTE! Keep up the good work!

Man, Gabe PERREAULT is a smooth passer. I'm always mystified when a kid like this isn't converted into a center. In his case, it's probably because they already were loaded in the middle throughout the USNTDP...but still...this kid is just magnificent in terms of threading the needle.

I still think that, screw Lard Ass and DIp Shit, that tonight is a player's game to show up and win...Well, unless Fat bastard takes the shot away by minimizing the latest version of the kid line and the 4th line....I do not wan to see Trent FUckin fredercik and Kastekli scoring goals to win it for the Bruins as ZBAD gets 20 minutes of floating

TDCHI - You know we agree on the main point about BOGRE and The Finn but Screw flotsum and jetsum like Robertson and Scanlin! Ben Harpur should be up playing the Trouba role!!!!!!!!.......OK, I kid....a little....But more seriously, how quickly BOOM BOOM was made an afterthought

Well if we lose maybe Drury gets canned end of season.....if we climb out somewhat maybe players have more value... Unsure tank or ....still say core and lavy and Drury need to go

Trade jones already it's not right he isn't fast or big enough for playoffs... regular set depends on the opponent.

sjw - The thing that is just so flummoxing in every way, shape and form is that the Rangers actually have THREE defensemen now that I would loop into the mix before BORGEN and VAAKANAINEN...and LONG before Chad fucking RUHWEDEL...JONES, obviously...but Brandon SCANLIN is another who has more than earned a call-up and a serious look. He's more than capable of playing 14-15 minutes at the NHL level, and, I believe, he's not eligible for waivers...And then ROBERTSON of course. He's a little different, because he struggled with injuries and just struggled...but he's been solid in Hartford this year and again...when you pull JONES out of the mix for competition and put him up against VAAKANAINEN? Welp...there's no reason why he or SCANLIN shouldn't be cycling in. VAAK is just not that good. He was a bust when the Bruins traded him...at any rate, I think it's kind of ridiculous that these shitheel vets are cycling into the lineup at this point, when it's pretty clear this season is a wash and this franchise really needs to start planning for the next.

TD. Agreed but ultimately this crap lats at the feet of Dreary. He's in charge. Your coach sits a player endlessly you move that player out before he's got no value. Or you find another coach. Dreary sucks HUGE.

The crazy part about KAKKO and to a lesser extent, JONES, is that BOTH players could've been making a lot more money now had they not been so excessively patient with management. KAKKO...man...If I was his agent, I would've pretty much told the Rangers my client wants a prominent role with the team or we're not going to resign/will sign an offer sheet. I wouldn't doubt for a second that there were teams that approached him during one of his past two contracts...And JONES? I mean, again. This guy would be in the top six of just about any team in the league. While certainly defenders have been getting quicker and shiftier, this kid moves so quickly and has such underrated hands...He would be an easy 30-40 point player with regular minutes and on a team that values skill. I mean, seriously? If I were him, I would've been leaving New York after being sat for 50 out of 82 games last season, and hardly getting a sniff the season before that. Giving this kid the HAJEK treatment last year, and now again this year? Total bullshit. Very lowbrow move by LAVIOLETTE. If you don't like the kid...which he obviously doesn't...tell the GM and have him traded. This dithering is nonsense, but it seems to be par for the course with DRURY.

You guys need to be careful by comparing them to Ranger management - or else Frick and Frack and the others will sue you for defamation of character

TDCHI - No arguement on that at all..Laviolette's handling of players has been abysmaal...But who traded for the Finn while pissing away our toughest D-man, Who pissed away KAKKAO and turned the 2nd overall into something named BOGREN? Who traded for RUWHEDEL at last year's deadline and who doubled down by signing him this off-season?......Again, totally agree with you on Laviolette, but these are the guys Dipshit is taking away and the guys he is giving Laviolette to play...Laurel and Hardy...Abbot and Costello...Kramden and Norton..Jay and Silent Bob.....Take your pick

Limbo if I was in Jones’ position and thought making public comments would mean a quick ticket out of there I would try it too. Drury has made his own bed in that with Kakko. Can’t blame Jones for looking out for his career. Just more proof of this horrible culture issue.

The Jones issue extends to Robertson iMO ... never played a single game with the Rangers.. this year he's a plus player on a mediocre team .. but the culture is trust marginal NHL players rather than give one of your own a look that culture needs to change... I would assume othmann is OK after it was reported he crashed into the boards and left the ice after scoring.. his name came up in the presser and no mention of him being re-injured...

DD drury will only fire lardass if he senses that Dolan is not happy. Then he will pull out all the stops cya gear.

With Jones, other than the regular shit way this crap org is run…if you look at his stats and his play, it has not been great lately. His first month was great. The last month, like pretty much everyone, not so much. Hasn’t had a point in over a month. That is not a good sign for him. I agree with him on one thing - he needs to play. Either here or the AHL or somewhere else. I suspect he just punched his ticket out of here.

Here's the thing: VAAKANAINEN and BORGEN are both 6/7th defenders on 90 percent of the teams in the NHL. These are NOT guys you have in your lineup full time unless there are no other options. Neither one has a future in New York. BORGEN, at this pace, will be traded at the deadline...and I'm still wondering why VAAKANAINEN isn't on the waiver wire. Without a trade, he would've been waived by the Ducks almost certainly...And just think about this from JONES' perspective. Dude has been nothing but a good soldier for the Rangers. Did everything they asked of him. Was fantastic last winter/spring and waited patiently on the sidelines. Had a GREAT camp, and solidly earned his spot...only to be displaced by two guys who wouldn't even make most rosters in the NHL. The craziest part was when LAVIOLETTE was putting BORGEN on his off-hand just to get the only defender WORSE than him and VAAK...Chad RUHWEDEL...into the lineup.

TDCHI - Many have been saying it...While canning Fat Country isn't the only logical move from an organizational standpoint, it is the easiest move and the best 1st step

Pins and needles, needles and pins..must be positive! tonight we get a full effort and win!

Hospo - Like I keep saying, LAVIOLETTE is the one easy factor this team could change to turn around its fortunes. May not work, but keeping him where he is positively WON'T work. There is no way he is turning this team around. Zero percent chance. Never gonna happen. They've regressed so badly since the start of the season and he's been such a total sinkhole on the bench...DRURY tried the stupid way, which was to trade players...and that has only made things worse...the team is less talented AND still lacking direction...so if they want to improve, the only logical move is to can LAVIOLETTE. He's more than earned it.

or Dipshit wants the Finn to play and they are afraid to sit another fragile puppy like Miller (similar to ZBAD)!....A sitting of JONES doesn't bother me by itself.....but, given everything else and the alternatives, continually sitting him does ....moreso, it's just his comments further illuminating the clusterfuck of the organization and Fat Bastartd's ineptitude in handling and fostering a TEAM....

I can only discern 2 reasons for the Jones (mis)treatment: 1) Lardiolette is an idiot 2) Lardiolette wants to be fired.

topovski - That's basically it. The dude has been on the ice for more goals for than not. And while +/- certainly is a loaded stat, it's no real mystery why JONES is on the plus side of things...even if you accept that he's not that good defensively...I for one do NOT believe this...then you have to look at how he impacts the offense. Either way, I just don't know how anyone can go through a list of the Rangers' top six defensemen and not include JONES among them. I get scratching him situationally when you need more muscle...or at least I did...but there's no excuse for scratching him in four straight, especially after a three-game losing stretch.

All my negativity and thoughts of wanting to lose until Laviolette and Drury are gone aside, tonight I think is the last AND best chance at home against the Bruins for the players to say Fuck Fat Bastard and Fuck Dipshit and just take everything into their own hands and play balls to the wall for 60 minutes..(Ok, maybe 30-40!)...Call me bonkers, but I think they might do it...One can hope, right?

RF4L - My soup DOESN'T suck, actually. Gotten a lot of compliments on it. Some real good ones in my repertoire. Raves over my Buffalo Chicken Soup.

I think it's long past time to sign Phil KESSEL. Let's just fucking do it, OK? Would make the season worth it.

wild, what jones are you talking about? not zach because despite all your rant about his play he is +2. How is that possible?

adversity brings opportunity... step back, realize this season is toast but with the right mind set could be back in the mix next year... get a top 10 maybe 5 pick in the draft, sell select assets at the deadline for additional picks and maybe a young centre or 2.. with freed up cap, target select UFA's to improve the physicality and grit at forward and 1 d.. it is possible.. and change coaching philosophy/culture to merit not entitlements.... whether Drury is smart/skilled to see it and then do it is another discussion..

If drury was a real gm he’d be talking with Toronto and Vancouver et al instead of writing a crayon memo of stupidity and disrespect. And if Dolan really thought that was a good idea then Nyr fans are screwed .

For those who want to read what Jones said to the media yesterday:athlonsports.com/nhl/new-york-rangers/rangers-player-blasts-healthy-scratches-rant-rotting-away-sucks#:~:text=%E2%80%9CI'm%20not%20a%2032,what%20I%20want%20to%20be

Happy, happy, joy, joy! So nice when a season I was so looking forward to turns to shit. If we’re gonna suck,then maybe at some point we can start actually rooting for this team again but in a different, maybe, more hopeful way…start looking for any positives. We all know that Drury sucks, Laviolette, sucks, this sucks, that sucks, the other things sucks….sucks, sucks, sucks. Happy, happy, joy, joy!

Boston Washington and Chicago up next - games in 4 nights. Surely they won't lose all 3???

Rf4L - your Wed Jan 1 2025 11:39 pm EST post. I’m wondering if you and I were thinking the same thing and if so, I agree. It’s certainly pushed me away.

Hopefully Dolan or someone tells him that he has a mutiny on the bounty going on. I’m not sure if there’s a system or not because the coach is not saying that they are not playing his system. It’s all moot now . The times they are a changing. Status quo is not an option anymore. The titanic has hit the iceberg and taking on water. Rearrange the chairs or do something called a rescue mission for survivors.

BOB/TDCHI - Like the other night and against TB, the Rangers put in some good effort finally but when the other team finally did press, the Rangers had zero structure, system and teamwork to fall back on..The 20 guys on ice are not a team..they don't play for each other anymore, they don't play for their coach and you can bet their candy asses that they detest Dipshit Druury after his handlings, moves and public letters...not to mention his total incompetence for the last two years..........As for JONES, I rarely call for kids for kids sake...And JOnes does have some issues which require lessons but so do other players that keep on playing and playing..I also think Jones quotes are just more evidence of how dysfunctional and fucked up this team is and has been for quite awhile and the shit rolls down hill form Drury and Laviolette ....Laviolette will go first, some players second, and either Drury or more players third..I genuinley think we are fucked no matter what

Well the forwards play zero defense and there does not appear to be any system leaving the D out to dry. None of them look good and they all did not switch from ok to suck overnight.

The end stage of total incompetence is anarchy. Today it arrived in the form of Zac Jones' comments. Added to the Optimum mess, MSG has rarely been this dysfunctional. But the Rangers lead the parade, other than the desperately unhappy employees of the corporate offices. A sign of the times, I guess. I'd keep one hand on the railing at all times.

Until drury and lardass are gone they need to do their jobs. The holidays are over and now it’s time to shit or get off the pot. Whatever they think about jones and any other player, it’s time to act instead of thinking and sending out a memo. I’m just hoping that Dolan is doing his by making a decision on his gm . Whatever happens they have to get out of limbo and hell. The paying fans deserve that at least. But I’m not holding my breath. The culture seems to be a lack of respect instead of winning.

Wildcard - That's just not true. To even begin believing it is true, you'd have to also think he's getting very lucky out there and/or his defensive partners are bailing him...neither of which is true. And like I said below, I really have no fucking clue how your judging one guy's defensive positioning when the whole goddamn D corps is fucked. They're all a mess. To sit back and say JONES is the biggest mess and deserves to be pressboxed is laughable.

Hospo - re: TROUBA looking better...This is the thing fans just tend to ignore, which is the value of having and, more importantly, PLAYING a system. The Rangers seemed somewhat structured last season...but this year? They're a hot mess. And the defense is the the most glaring example of it all. They're just CONSTANTLY missing coverage. Part of it is the forwards getting too deep and letting up odd-man rushes...but more of it is how they're playing IN the defensive zone. You could drop any defenseman in the league into whatever LAVIOLETTE is rolling out and he'll struggle. Christ, Will BORGEN even looked better when he was with Seattle. When we got him, I was thinking OK, well, maybe we get a good, hard-hitting defensive defenseman...but man, he's out of position on almost every goal against...So Dipshit DRURY will continue to move guys and they'll look better wherever they land because whatever he's drawn up for a game plan in New York has been an abject failure. Like the last time I saw defensive structure THIS bad was when RUFF was running our D. In fact, I think this team's structure is even worse.

Some fans got a new year gift of not having to watch this sorry excuse for a NHL team… https://nypost.com/2025/01/01/business/msg-networks-optimum-dig-in-for-long-fight-as-knicks-game-blacked-out-sources/

td: I could give two shits bout jump in his step. He is constantly moving the wrong way in the D zone, always looking the wrong way, H isn't good off the puck. How about he plays some D, fixes his brain and defends properly...then he can run his mouth.

C'mon Wildcard. Either you're being contrarian or you simply don't know what you're looking at. JONES has been the only defenseman with jump to his step. I'm not going to say he's a future Norris winner, but he's played adequate in the defensive zone, at a bare minimum. Much better than the two boneheads DRURY just acquired, and no worse than MILLER and LINDGREN. Really, FOX is the only defenseman who has played better defense...and that's marginally...Regardless...the whole D has been an abject disaster. None of them look good. So at a minimum, you're singling out JONES without acknowledging the rest of them playing like garbage. There is positively NO reason to hold him out of the lineup, save for getting Dumb and Dumber into the lineup in some sort of half-baked effort to get them going. Even if I was buying what you're saying here...and I'm not...he's more effective offensively and better defensively than at least one of those guys. If you're going through the Rangers' defensive holdings and you're ranking JONES seventh or lower...you need to really check yourself.

https://www.reddit.com/r/nhl/comments/1hrdn4j/why_have_the_rangers_dropped_off_so_much/?share_id=txAUD83lLCsTFD0qgDXsB&utm_content=1&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_source=share&utm_term=4&rdt=64808

Coloradomark yes I am kidding but he was fun to watch lololol....Drury is painful and we can't watch...

I just love how I watch…and see Jones make mistakes…GLARING MISTAKES shift after shift after shift and folks here cry that he is t in because of mistakes made by others who make them less often. Jones is a mess when the play slows down and cycles in the Rangers zone. He is never in the right spot, never facing the right way, his stick is always in the wrong spot. He isnt that good. If he were 5 years older no one would be crying about him. Stop using age to decide who should play.

TDCHI - I feel the same way now and it pains me big time!!..We disagree a bit on the roles of the players and the GM but Fat Bastard should have been gone long ago.....I just read the quotes from Jones and i'm just bout done... And here we are plying shit like the worthless Finn that was acquired for TROUBS (who, surprise, surprise, has been good for the Ducks)..But that's besides the point..Laviolette has been a loser for like 6-7 years in the new NHL outside of last yer, but also a year where the Rangers lost their dtructure and discipline as the year went along....He is completley out of his depth and has no clue how to manage and run a team with both kids and vets...What he and Drury did to Kakkao and his vakue was criminal....Get this fat fucktard out of here and try to right this ship somehow...then again, the coach will be an internal option and Drury will only continue burning the orgnization to the ground...God, we're fucked...Oh, Happy New Year...

Also, hate to say this, but I’m rooting for this team to lose now. I hope they don’t win another game under LAVIOLETTE. Fuck that asshole.

What I continue to find remarkable is that there are fans and a certain diaper-wearing columnist who seem so willing to ‘blame the core’ when you have an asshat like LAVIOLETTE making moves that are forcing good young players off the team. KAKKO and now JONES? What’s next? Again, you can argue that JONES has his warts…he does…but he’s also better than both of the clowns this team got in trades. It’s not even remotely debatable. He’s faster, he’s better with the puck, he’s better defensively and he offers the team a second PPQB. To relegate him to the bench for a FOURTH straight game…the three previous games being brutal losses…well, now not only do you look like you have no clue, but you’re also losing credibility. This is a terrible way to run a team…and I tell you what: the way the Rangers have treated JONES is something other players recognize.

Phil traded my favorite Ranger at the time, Glen Hanlon got a future captain, Kelly Kisio!

VCP! Ah, yes! Trader Phil, lol! I know you are kidding but worth a Look at some of these trades! http://www.nhltradetracker.com/user/trade_list_by_GM/Phil_Esposito/30 Mike Ridley and Kevin Miller for Bobby Carpenter! He was entertaining, that’s for sure! Amazing the difference in trades before the salary cap!

SJW Drury is the ultimate idiot lolol at least he is good at being so bad lololol.....let's get espo back

We are seeing the culture issues ... now with Jones, while others play game after game with glaring mistakes .. the kid sits...creates a toxic locker room ... Team has an opportunity for a reset for next year .. be smart sellers at the deadline ( teams will overpay as always), get some young assests and picks in return, clear cap space to add select FA's .. and you could be right back in the mix next year .. whether Drury is smart enough is another big question

They did play a really good game against FL though.. if not for miller blunder and a few gafs....Panthers are just a superior team.

You all know that it’s hard to crack this lineup with the streak they are on. Or at least that’s what the coach thinks. Why sit anyone in the stands when you already have seat warners filling them. I want lardass to continue with his plan and get his ass fired. Just like I want this team to keep on losing to get drury fired. Hopefully that happens or they get a chance to go to another team that has management who wants to win .

RF…Agree with Jones as well…His D numbers are pretty good…Yes he will have a bad game as did Mancini and they are then quickly yanked from the lineup…Meanwhile the rest of our D (Miller) suck night in and night out and stay in the lineup…Including the dredge we traded Kakko and Trouba for….

Jones should request a trade . The defense is so porous there’s no room for him. Wafj … drury gets guys and lardass puts them in the lineup as the kiss up he is. It’s the culture. If you don’t kiss up, you don’t fit in. Housley is doing a stellar job with the defense disaster.

Related to Alfalfa , little rascal?….https://youtu.be/o0U9OMyF2UY?si=A0Ea7XduNz8re4ry

And I don't blame him. Set to sit for the 5th time in 6 games. The Rangers development strategies are an embarrassment to say the least.

Zac Jones complained today to the press ala KK, about his endless pressboxing. He feels like he's 'rotting away'. Guess he's now going to get traded for a minimal return. What a mess. Dreary sux huge.

Coloradomark actually against FL we did get blown out. Not on the scoreboard IGOR was not human he saved the team last year.

NYStranger- like I said- I enjoyed the ride. I didn’t dwell on the shortcomings, and Why not the Rangers last year? I agree either way PJ. FL series wasn’t like we got blown out. So the Panthers the only team that was built to win the cup? We talk a lot on here about how the right way to build a team like there are so many examples. But one team wins each year and it’s not like ever team uses the same template. We all think know what it takes, but only 1 in 32 gms knows each year!

Rangers get pass the Panthers last year they win the Cup in my opinion…Series vs Panthers had 3 OT games and 2 games with one goal difference…Igor was great for sure but it wasn’t fools gold by any means…

Shesty on the IR? Humm, is Drury purposely tanking the season, after all ? #bag it for Hagens

CM I wasn’t arguing about enjoying a winning team, just that in the back of my mind all year was the ‘yeah, but they really don’t have the team to win it all’ bugging me, and dopey Drury didn’t address the issue at all getting Roslovich and Reweedle. Just has been a strangely depressing thing for me even while they bested the franchise wins record, although the current points and OT system makes that record a bit tempered as well.

HOSPO - I agree with all of that too. Except for one part - I think KK started being a good 2 wayer a few years ago. What fucking disaster. The franchise is doomed. Sometimes I wonder if my younger self’s memories, that saw them win the cup in 94 with his own eyes, was a just a figment of that young man’s imagination.

No stevie it is one lifetime, but lifetime of what? So far it has been longer than a hamster a cat or a dog.

Shesterkin on IR! https://nypost.com/2024/12/31/sports/igor-shesterkin-heading-to-ir-in-major-rangers-injury-blow/

Comark: Something like you can only win the lottery (move up, not necessarily to first overall) twice in any given 5 year period. That didn't kick in until the 2022 draft so the Rangers could tank the next 2 years and be eligible to win a lottery spot in both.

Didn’t they make a rule about winning the lottery more than one year in a row after we got Laffy? I don’t remember?

NYStranger- I understand the cup is the goal, but I enjoy watching a team that wins. If you didn’t enjoy those runs, as flawed as they were, that’s your prerogative. You can disagree, I was only saying I enjoyed watching a team that found ways to win and it made me in a better mood, that’s all. I didn’t say those teams were built to win the cup. We can disagree as to how close they were, (that was my smoke and mirrors comment) but they overachieved. I’d take watching those wins. I think there are some who favor losing and drafting high with hope for the future. I like prospects as well, but I won’t disparage anyone who would rather see everything torn down. I just think winning is more fun. The cup is hard to win and there is no one way to win it.

Happy New Year Wallsters. CM. I disagree about rooting for the fools gold of the last 3 seasons. While, yes it is much better to enjoy a good season, I always had doubts about the ability to win a Cup. Many here look at it as only 2 wins away from the finals 2 out of three years, but I saw a team that was never going to win those 6 more games needed to win it all. So yes, maybe fun in the moment, but kind of pointless if the goal is winning the Cup and not just merely being good. So, heres to better years to come no matter who is making the decisions in the organization. My 1st choice would be a different GM and coach making those moves.

All non-PO teams are in the lottery but the maximum number of spots a team can advance is 10 meaning 23rd and lower all can land the 1st overall pick. Of course the lower in the standings a team is the better the odds of moving up.

Happy New Year, folks. Ring it in with a little bit of sportsmanship from Drew FORTESCUE: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DEQAJCrPmJ5/?igsh=ZHJqaDhnejJqNDlx

Dd drury will probably mean Dumb Desperate….https://youtu.be/5mQNh0U--qQ?si=hhKjZ5LEN3oEmJbj

A reason why you don’t trade Mr k is because he is a playoff performer. Finding them is the trick…. https://nypost.com/2025/01/01/sports/four-best-rangers-moments-in-2024-and-four-questions-they-face-in-2025/

Happy, Healthy and safe New Year. Hoping the Rangers get over whatever ails them.

LIMBO - I agree on the demand and trade stuff for Kakkao but it was this year when KAKKAO was finally turning into a strong 2-way NHL forward on what was temporarily the best line in the NHL yet, even knowing the past situtaion, Laviolette (with Drury's blessing) ripped the line apart (when Chytl was healthy) and chose to kow tow to and focus on a tanking vet core at the expense of a potentally strong part of the future wbho was busting his ass....Together Dip Shit and Fatman screwed and dw=evalued the pooch..

Man, the refs in this game have definitely gotten some death threats to call a bench minor on the U.S.

RF4L - haha so true man. This game is tonic for the soul after watching all this shit Ranger hockey…and yeah, LEONARD…gonna suck having him on the Caps.

This is a fab game to watch. 1000x better than the shit the Rangers have offered up lately

I didn’t know that you could be on ir for a bruised ego and burnt asshole. Is that middle to upper or upper and lower?

Hells - I am as mad as the next guy about the KK trade and wish it never came to this. But, when a guy demands it, at some point you gotta do it. I agree with you - KK is not in the same league as MIDDLETON. One guy scored almost 1000 reg season points and 100+ in the playoffs. KK needs to score at like a PPG pace for 10 years to even get close. It’s not gonna happen.

Hospo. Agreed Znob needs to go regardless of how he might resurrect his declining career elsewhere. Why? Because he's a key member of the now pathetic leadership core. Aa we've cited what feels like a trillion times the younger set needs to take over. Mind you this miserable shit isn't abated those young guys will be ruined. Let go of your ankles Dreary you incompetent piece of Dolans sucking shit.

Happy New Year, Wallsters! Losing sure sucks. Think of all the complaining we’ve done over the last few years! Maybe some are happy that the smoke and mirrors are gone which might force changes. But I was entertained and in a much better mood when they were winning!

TDCHI - Ya know, I couldn't give a rink rat's ass if ZMOPE rebounds wherever he goes, just as long as his perimiter prancing and ES challenged play and most of his horrendous contract are elsewhere...The Rangers need a total rewiring of their attitude and the way they play the game and jettisoning ZBAD would be a HUGE step towards that....On a personal level, while he seems a good guy, i get zero enjoyment of watching him play the game...........................As for trades, shouldn't they package ZBAD and MILLER and a life time supply of....nah, i'll stop there

IGOR's injury is nothing but putting excuses in place for Dip SHit and Fat Man..to keep them around as long as possible...More rationally, wasn't the reason for getting rid of Trouba to make us tougher in front of our meal ticket..Abd lso why we got that Fearsome Finn in return to go with that Big Meanie Bogren???...Now, we are keeping tabs on OTHMAN? ANother redundnt Mini me forward.....And the trade of KAKKAO, a combined effort of a clueless coach ammd an inept GM who has swung and miss every single time since the KANE fiasco, and the insignificat return still boggles my mind

Are any of us really surprised after Igor got pulled in Tampa he was gonna pull a Rodney Dangefield in Caddyshack ? “ Oooh my arm , I think it’s broken “???

RF- you know there’s gotta be a social media type named Bourbon Sky, lol! I like Borboni cause it has an Italian flavor!

JFC- I don’t know but I’m definitely naming something Borboni Sky! Maybe a movie villain?

Othman took a penalty late in the third so the injury mustn't have been serious. If they move some people we may seem him later this year. Kakko will be a solid middle six winger in the NHL. A 40 pt. per season guy. I don't think the Ranger or him accepted that because of his draft position. It's like the Strome brothers. They had to move on to other teams before they fit into their slot in the league. It's not a Rick Middleton trade. No team is going to retire his number.

I see one of you guys picked up Quick in our fantasy - I don’t want to drop any lower in the standings (I’m in last btw)

Maybe this will be the Cam Talbot 2015 when Henrik was injured - i’m sorry fellas that’s all I’ve got

Panthers were in Shesty’s face and in his crease all night long! I hope the Rangers took receipts and will give the same treatment to Borboni Sky next time they play. He’s lucky he didn’t get a groin or leg injury when then jabbed his leg off of the post! That shit was blatant!

Comark. Yeah. Probably. Watch them tighten up without Igor there and start winning.

RF- lol, would definitely understand. Think more likely it’s the Lindgren/Bennett collision into the net. Shesterkin got hit pretty hard.

TD. To be clear he was holding the same arm meaning I'm taking it a step further. Nice goal too. https://x.com/WolfPackAHL/status/1874206980195361057/video/1

Read an interesting trade proposal: Kreider to Carolina for Jack Drury and a 2nd. Would anyone do it?

RF4L - That's hardcore bad. I mean OTHMANN does play that sort of game...but shit man...that's sounding more like bad luck than injury prone. Same fucking wrist? Goddamn. That's fucking brutal.

RF4L - I didn't see that. But it's probably because one of the other tendies is injured. Same difference. The guy on a PTO is probably a contingency plan for if one of the ECHL teams needs a backup...The dude they signed came from the 'Federal Prospects Hockey League.' I got dudes on my beer league team from that league. It's pretty much your last stop before beer league. One guy told me he was getting paid $60 a week to play...

Puckyou - KAKKO definitely requested a trade after he was scratched. He may not publicly admit it, as someone here noted the other day...but that was the deal. He said enough's enough...I want out. And DRURY did his best to accommodate as quickly as possible. I had hoped the saga would've tracked similar to Jake DEBRUSK'S saga in Boston...he requested trades on at least two occasions, only to be talked off the ledge...nevertheless, I ordinarily am not a fan of player trade requests...but in this case? KAKKO was 110 percent in the right. He was beyond patient with the Rangers...Quite frankly, if I were him, I would've asked to be traded the minute SMITTY JR. was inexplicably brought aboard at the cost of a second AND a sixth AND $3.6 million. Folks here were quick to mention what little KAKKO was doing...but when it comes to that dude? Nada...anywho...yeah, if I were to call it? This is Rick Middleton all over again. KAKKO is a very good player. His basement is the player he was for the Rangers, which is a very good third liner.

Another 1st rounder by the Rangers who's starting to look suspect but this time due to being injury prone once he turned pro.

BO scores. Slams into the boards. Goes down the tunnel holding the same wrist he broke 3 months ago.

Stevielegs dont hold your breath....we are doomed ..franchise is doomed ......but we have this disease ...there is no treatment or cure...

Puckyou why of course it will be one of the worse in rangers history. We have a mighty fine history of this not CUPS.

One last thing on Z? If he IS traded, I can almost guarantee wherever he lands, he'll rebound in a major way. You know...sort of like KAKKO and TROUBA have already. There are to asshats fucking up this organization and they're moving on different tracks. The first asshat is the coach. He is creating this losing environment, contrary to what the all-knowing diaper-wearing columnist from the Post claims. And then there's the general asshat, who is too stupid to understand his second error in hiring a coach...verifying that he never saw any real issue with the first one...and also that he's too pigheaded and arrogant to acknowledge his mistakes and correct them...the lethal combo of DRURY and LAVIOLETTE has dragged this team to where it is now. One kills them on the ice. The other kills them with trades. I will laugh my fucking ass off if DRURY's response to everything is to follow the lead of a hemorrhoid-laden sphincter like Brooks, keep LAV and ditch the core.

sjw - Totally could be anxiety. I mean, dude, Z has had just a horrific start to his season and the whole team is in such a state of disaster...Like I said a few days ago...his interview after the Lightning game...I'm not sure how anyone could watch that and come to the conclusion that this is a guy who doesn't give a shit or is dogging it. The dude looked on the verge of a breakdown...hockey is an emotional sport and if that emotion is positive...well, a rising tide floats all ships...but when it's negative? Man. I tell you what: It's tough as hell to navigate the ice when your brain is second-guessing every stride you take. Mika is a guy who is clutching his stick to the point where I'm surprised he's not crushing it in his hands. This isn't a player not trying. It's a player who is lost and doesn't know how to get out of the worst funk of his career...and is now watching what should've been a cup run turn into a rebuild.

re: ZIBANEJAD, be very careful for what you ask for. I know some...or rather one...poster here would be elated...but the grass is always greener on the other side. A trade of Z is going to look almost identical to the TROUBA trade...you're not getting shit back. You're getting the forward-equivalent of VAAKANAINEN and, if we eat salary, maybe a second rounder...in short, you are going to get less than the player you're giving...and then I'll also remind y'all that our middle would look like this: TROCHECK-CHYTIL-BRODZINSKI-CARRICK...but I guess, in the name of drafting Jimmy HAGENS...GIDDY UP!!

RF4L - Not sure if you looked up Conor McCOLLUM, but this AIN'T someone you bring into the fold to trade your starting goaltender. My guess is that they have an injury somewhere and need someone to carry the load in practice. BOYKO and OLLAS might be unavailable for whatever reason. I see they're on different ECHL teams right now...either way, I very strongly doubt GARAND is on the move. I think he's the guy they have in mind to replace QUICK next season.

TD- my fear is the Kakko trade will go down as one of the worst in NYR history, on a par with Middleton for Hodge, Park and Ratelle for Espo and Vadnais, Ridley and Miller for Carpenter. I’m pretty sure Kakko wanted out and asked, but it’s NYR vet loving coaches that turned a super dominant junior star with offensive ability into Jesper Fast. I agree that players like Fast are very important, but that was just the only road for Kakko here due to the 3 coaches that never committed to him. Maybe the NYR had an embarrassment of winger riches for awhile, and maybe they should have dealt a Kreider earlier for a big package or better yet, glued him to Zbad and Kreider for more than 10 games (God knows they could use a defensive responsible winger on that line). Anyway, never deal a 23 year old if you aren’t sure he’s a bust, he’ll haunt you for 15 years.

PJ - I'm not going to spell the virtues of MILLER, who, like the rest of the team, is having a bad season. But last night? Two of those goals were directly on his wandering partner, which essentially left MILLER fending off a two-on-one. Best I can say for BORGEN is he's strong. I haven't even seen him throwing the hits he was throwing in Seattle. Everything is stickwork. Just jousting guys. I'll reserve some judgement on him, because he IS coming into a trainwreck organization and a coach who has abandoned any semblance of structure. I did notice him throwing big hits in Seattle...but I just haven't seen it here. All I see is a guy who gets lost. A lot.

Hospo - re: the ice time, that's because BYSMLA gets it. LAVIOLETTE doesn't. He won the cup one way and got to the finals using that model. He is literally incapable of changing. The only time he takes a step in the right direction is when there are no special teams.

Puckyou - The Rangers and Ranger fans will come to rue the day KAKKO was traded...the question now is how much and how bad. There are some really exceedingly delusional fans that think this was a case similar to ANDERSSON and KRAVTSOV...where KAKKO was a bust and they needed to cut bait...and it's a great way to separate fans who don't know jack from the ones who might actually know a few things...At BARE MINIMUM, KAKKO was a very good third liner, 30-40-point player. Full stop right there. A Jesper FAST-type player...Let's pause there and acknowledge how fucking valuable these type of guys are to organizations, starting with this one, which literally couldn't find someone TO replace Jesper FAST and all he did. But I digress...Contrary to some errant claims here, KAKKO was never given the shot he's being given in Seattle, full stop. It's not even arguable. And he's doing with the Kraken what he was doing with the Rangers, which is make his line better...The Rangers not only made their third line weaker...and this is coming from someone who REALLY likes Brett BERARD...but they also acquired a guy who has made their DEFENSE weaker, as remarkable as that may sound...this was a bad trade for the present, and a bad trade for the future. The only marginal hope is that the third rounder they got for him becomes like the second rounder they got for ANDERSSON(i.e. Will CUYLLE)...Also, let that sink in: The Rangers essentially got LESS for KAKKO than they did for ANDERSSON.

From the Pack prior to the start of today's game: Garand day to day and spicy meatballs, 'unavailable'.

I’m hoping January 3 is going to be the change in management day. And I hope Dolan is making the announcements.

I hope they are looking to move Spicy Pork not Garand. I don't trust Drury to make a hockey trade. His plan should be: Move the pending UFAs at the deadline, give up the GM title and hire someone who knows what he is doing.

If zbad is ok with getting traded, it’s probably a good idea for something in return. But I don’t trust drury to make the deal while holding his ankles.

If I hated my job which I do and told the boss as much they would say goodbye.....I don't have a no move clause...I won't go to another company but would have to be where I live I don't make 2-10 million per year. . No I don't feel sorry for them but they are supposed to at least pretend to care....for that amount of money....even if they are the lowest paid of professional sports.

Jfc31 yes they are professionals whom make toms of money, amazingly they are humans.....

SJW - I posted the other day that it looks like Z is cracking up. His post-game interview was insane…he was talking very, very quickly and loudly (for him) and just seemed to be having an anxiety attack right there and then…

No. No problem at all. I'd be OK with eating half if it meant the return was good. 2 pluses if so cuz assets back and no more Zbad.

rf - would that be a big problem? I mean, it’s a “pick your poison” situation at this point, isn’t it? Keep Zibanejad for the next 5 years as he continues to get older or take on a$2 mil cap hit. Revenues for the NHL are going way up which means the cap will continue to get larger every year. If $2 mil is what it takes for the next 5 years but we get a good return, then so be it. Wonder if ZiB would like San Jose? I still think Grier owes his pal Drury a favor for the Goodrow waivers….and SJ has plenty of cap space so maybe they’ll take the whole contract.

RF…That may be worth it…If true the key is him willing to cooperate with a move….

Can't see Zbad going anywhere without Rangers eating at least 1/4 of his salary.

After seeing Mika miss that starting shift .. I think 2nd period.. I thought .. looks like he is having an anxiety/panic attack ... is he on meds.. that would certainly impact his play... and then I flashed back .. oldtimer that I am .. to Frank Mahovlich in Toronto ... 67/68 season .. some sort of issues.. nobody talked about stuff like that back then .. Leafs shipped him out to Detroit, and he had several excellent seasons after .. there and in Montreal winning2 more cups.. it just made me connect the dots.. could be completely wrong .. but interesting ..

Zibanejad open to a trade? From The Fourth Period: “ One player who may also be available is veteran forward Mika Zibanejad, who owns a full no-movement clause. Citing a source close to the Rangers, Pagnotta reported on Monday that Zibanejad would be open to waiving his NMC for the right environment. It is unclear, however, if the Rangers and Zibanejad have discussed which teams he would accept a move to, but that conversation could come if Drury finds the right fit. Friedman also suggested on Monday that Zibanejad could be up for grabs and he could be the next big shoe to drop in Manhattan, but noted the team is wide open for business.”

Pack sign a goalie to a PTO. They now have 4 goalies on the team. Surely a trade involving Garand is imminent. Or Igor???

I heard when Meeka threw that blind backhand pass up the middle to give the Panthers the early 1-0 lead, Lavi was so angry when he looked down the bench and Kakko wasn’t there to bench!

TD….You know who else Jones is better than?….Miller…Not Borgen’s fault he was traded for Kakko…But to single him out over Miller in last nights game is just hating…He actually has been ok in my opinion…The defending of Miller is mind boggling….He should at his best at this point in his career….

So now we're posting links for fan podcasts? If it were former players or beat writers, I get it, but these guys are just fans that comment on news broken by others. Who gives an F what they think? Rangers Digest is one of the worst, he is nothing more than clickbait central.

Puckyou - Please god let that be true with ZBAD..Get him out of here...As for KAKKAO, his passing for SEA is not surprising...Up until being pissed away by Fat Man and Dip Shit, Kakkao passing/set up ability with Cuylle and CHytle was very eye opening..All he needs is to go to the net more..and he will..for SETTLE..Speaking of Seattle, and i know they are not the Gold modle,, but intersting to see every forward with ovr 12 minutes and none over 17.5 minutes...Quite the different operational model than Laviolette...it needs to chanage at leqast a little

Dave pagontta of 4th period reporting Mika is open to waiving his no trade for the right environment .

By the way, I just saw the replays of the kraken game- Kakko with 2 sick 3rd period primary assists to break a 3-3 tie in the 3rd and give Seattle the win. Both passes created breakaways

VTRanger - I can see that....OTOH I am not overly impressed with the 20 min effort against TB and last night's effort against an impotent struggling team...The guys did play harder though but they were still a mess defesnively anytime they were pressured....both the forwards and D..There is ZERO structure to fall back on...ANd maybe they fianlly try but the team still wants it easy with little considertion for tewmwork and plays like that,,,They are also severly undermanned defensively and at least 1-2 NHL forwrds down...A guy like Kakkao and Trouba might help....AMyways, thye might try individually a bit more but, teamwise, I expect the spiral down to continue with losses to both BOS and WASH..and that will be it...then Laviolette goes...After that, who the fuck knows..Only thinig I know is DRURY does not have it in him to guide this team forward

Last night and really, Saturday night were both good efforts out of this team that were hamstrung by poor coaching decisions. Not efforts, mind you, that will win against top teams, but one where you could genuinely see the players digging in...contrary Fuckface McDotard's claims they just quit...They battled back, and they played good defense, for the most part...But let's get into the decisions made my the newest member of the Clueless Jackass's Club...Let's start with getting something abundantly clear: Will BORGEN and Urhu VAAKANAINEN are tied at seventh on the defender depth chart and while one may slot into the lineup on occasions, there is never any call or reason to have both there...Neither one is as good as JONES either defensively or offensively. The best I can say is that BORGEN is stronger. He's a fucking idiot when it comes to positioning and likes to stick check a lot for a dude billed as a physical defenseman, but he brings ZERO to the game. VAAKANAINEN? Best I can say about him is that I don't notice him...Either way, NEITHER of these guys is as good as MANCINI, and MANCINI himself could use a little work...Putting both in the lineup is madness...and the only move worse would be to dump in RUHWEDEL...beyond these two games, the message couldn't be clearer to JONES: He has no future with this coach. And I suspect the only reason he hasn't asked for a trade is that he's hoping this clown will get fired soon...So that's the first big fuckup...Second? The powerplay. How this idiot continues to roll out the SAME tired unit...now mystically transformed with LAFRENIERE...is beyond me...outside of the fact that it loads way too many minutes on TROCHECK, KREIDER and prior to his move, ZIBANEJAD, they look stale. And it's because the guys on it are also the same guys who are struggling...PANARIN and FOX among them...I could look the other way on this, I suppose, were it not for the fact that CHYTIL and his line were ON FIRE last night. Yet he can't even break 15 minutes of ice? You know who else looked good last night? THE FOURTH LINE. EDSTROM had a great game...all seven minutes of it. BERARD also played great...for all of nine minutes of ice he got...How you go into the final minutes of the game with CHYTIL on the bench and the SAME struggling players on the ice to lose it...well, it's beyond me...Let's also get into how in the fucking hell BORGEN, who again, is not very good at anything, is on the ice for 19 minutes and SCHNEIDER only 14? It's mystifying. His pairing with MILLER was awful...and while I'm sure there are some fans doing their usual gang up on MILLER...I saw MASSIVE gaffs by BORGEN on two of those goals...to his very limited credit, he's new with the team and might not know this system that well...but shit. The guy chases players and leaves his positioning by the net ALL. THE. TIME. He's fucking terrible and just a visible reminder of how the GM made this team a lot weaker with that deal...At any rate, if you're a doddering half-blind brain-dead columnist who hasn't understood hockey since the late 1990s, maybe...MAYBE you could watch that game last night and continue to blame the players for this demise...but for us who know hockey? THAT WAS ON THE COACH. 100 percent. Bad lineup decisions. Bad bench management. Bad strategy. Oh and don't even get me into that fucking idiot challenging on the first goal. This team has been drilled into the ground by a guy who is particularly inept and apparently has surrounded himself with a bunch of fucking yes men.

Evets: I'm in a crappy mood this morning, so here is my dismal prediction. The Rangers are showing signs of coming back to life. It may take a few more games, but at some point they are going to start winning again. In fact, they are going to start winning a lot and will get themselves into the wildcard race. They will fail, though, ultimately missing the last wild card spot by 2 or three points. In the process, they will wreck the chance to draft any of the elite center prospects you mentioned. In fact, given their mediocre draft position, they will then draft the "best player available" (meaning they will draft someone other than a center). And on and on it goes. Happy New Year all!

I've been advocating the idea of shopping Miller for 2 years now - I think he's one of those guys where the whole is less than the sum of the parts and that's because what is arguably the most important part - hockey IQ - is lacking. That said, I don't believe he should be given away but of course if Dreary trades him now, he's trading low. Miller should be have been moved for a young top 6 centre last summer or the summer before. Sleep at the wheel/sit on his hands Dreary misses the boat. Again.

Looking forward... Pre-draft lottery, the Rangers are slated to select 7th overall. Here are some centers around that spot right now who will be excellent options: MICHAEL MISA - 6'1", 185lbs, Much of Misa’s production this season has come in transition and his ability to attack off the rush. He’s a high-end skater with NHL level edge work and top end speed. He’s able to make lots of skilled plays at breakneck pace, generating controlled zone entries with ease and linking up with teammates as he drives the slot.; ROGER MCQUEEN - 6'5", 190lbs, Watch his highlight reels and marvel at his ability to deke defencemen and spin them around, doing it all in tight to his body, despite his massive frame; look at his elite instinct to get to goal-scoring positions undetected; and of course, he can use his enormous frame and size to play physically. That said, the big question is whether he can put all of his tools together and do it on a consistent basis., ANTON FRONDELL - 6', 196lbs, Frondell is a complete 200-foot player who has no discernable weaknesses in his toolkit and can play both down the middle and on the wing. He is a physical beast, and he has legitimate dual-threat scoring ability.; CALEB DESNOYERS - 6'2", 179lbs, He's engaged in all three zones and competes for pucks in traffic. Desnoyers is a threat to produce off the rush. He has the vision and patience to slow things down and wait for options to present themselves. He is at his best when playing with higher-end players and showcasing his ability to be a play connector and complementary asset to the line.; One of these guys is going to be there for the Rangers. McQueen seems to be in line with the way the Rangers have drafted over the past few years. Whoever they select will immediately be their number one center prospect.

Whoever these 2 knuckleheads are….. they are not clueless….https://youtu.be/AlHP2KbR8wg?si=2TfAftZEdnD1Qt43

“ And now the Rangers are here, sitting in last place in the Metropolitan Division, losers of four straight games and 15 of 19, with the follow-up campaign to a Presidents’ Trophy-winning season on the brink of devastation.”…. Hey coach and gm you are what your record says you are. WTFU you have mostly made this mess now clean it up or walk away. Give someone else the chance to make it better. It’s obvious that the players are not giving ???? % , nor is management. Paging Jimmy Dolan!

“We did enough to win the game, we did enough to lose the game,” head coach Peter Laviolette said after his team fell to 16-19-1 before the new year. “It is frustrating because you feel like you’re doing more good than you are bad out there. At the end of the day, it’s not showing on the scoreboard. That’s the business, it’s winning. It’s not good enough.”…..” Zibanejad’s minus-22 rating on the season is officially the third worst in the NHL.”

Hospo they are running the team according to the calendar instead of acting on priorities. What’s another week or two of losing in the big scheme of THINGS? Maybe the coach should write a memo to his team and himself about all those THINGS. He needs some thingamajigs .

Lardass which things the first thing or the second thing or the other thing? Something wrong with your thinking. Keep trying the same thing over and over again and expect different results. Thanks for perpetuating the slump. It’s the only way THINGS might change in Nyr land. Is drury coming back after the holidays? They have become a mia organization waiting for the dust to settle between their ears. 2025 should be an interesting bunch of THINGS for the frustrangers . Stay the intercourse.

Stevie - He's a fucking idiot ..needs to go NOW...so sad that a 5-3 LOSS probbly bought him at least 2 more games..hell, myabe 2 weeks!

The coach without a head…” And yet, head coach Peter Laviolette opted to have Mika Zibanejad on the ice instead of Chytil for the six-on-four power play while vying to tie the game with an empty net in the final moments of regulation. “There’s a group that we work on things and we go over things, there’s a group that’s been together,” Laviolette said when asked if there was thought to have Chytil out there in the end given his strong game. “So, I mean, he played well. He was supposed to be going out on the second unit and he just never got the change with the person he was changing for.”

Hospo…I get it…I wouldn’t give him away either like was done with Kakko. But a substantial offer and I drive him to the airport.

PJ - Like I said, I agree with your take on MILLER this year but i can't just ignore late last year...We have pissed away enough young players lately, don't want to do it again....This season is such a shit show for the team and so many players--Miller, Fox, Lindgren, ZBAD, Kreider, Trouba before being dealt, Kakkao in the eyes of Drury, Laffy and others not far behind..that I don't want to make a decision on MILLER (or any kid), and he has never been my favorite player, based on these two months of diseased NY Ranger Hockey

vcp…Too harsh on Miller?…Hell no…He is horrible…He used to have occasional lapses of judgement to be kind…His entire game now is a lack of judgement…A guy with his reach and speed regularly gets blown past or is out of position….

Hospo completely agree about miller.... Drury will get some picks for him....Drury is awful heck intake trader phill back or Neil Smith .... Drury is utterly clueless.......

Check out this clip of Paul Maurice. This is EXACTLY what should have been yelled at the Rangers for the past 5 years! Basic fucking hockey! That’s why they are Cup winners! https://fb.watch/wPbb83aE2H/?

Let's only hope.. Mentioned one of my favorite shows earlier, Hot Stove. David Pagnotta is the insider on it. He reported on Monday that ZShit would be open to waive his NMC for the right place. It's unclear that NYR and ZShit had already discussed it, but convo could start, if right place is found!!

VCP - I just like what I saw of MILLER in the POs last year and think he has a high ceiling and am afraid to give him up for scraaps as is Drury's MO

Hospo agree about miller he is having a bad year like others in the team.....shit happens.....he has been more physically engaged past 2 games... Again he was a not a D man for many year's ......we are two harsh harsh

RF4L - I thihnk i beat you to it on that one!!!!..Stupid, stupid trade and horrible return..Screw Drury

Newfie... He is on the Jimmy Vesey career path(IE. started out in the top six, realized be's a better fit on the bottom six). He has 4 more points than either Vesey(21 gp) or Edstom 36 gp) and he's only played 21 games. We need more speed and physicality and he'd cost us nothing. If he sucks as a person, you just let him go.

BTW. Drury throw away and Laviolette's unwanted bastard getting mega ice tonight with two helpers

PJ - Call me crazy but I still don't want to give up on MILLER..right partner, right roll I think he could still be very good...but I relly can't argue/disagree with your (and others) take on him this year....but so many players have been shit

Jones should be back in…His GA for 60 is very good and he could help the PP…Miller continues to be awful…Mancini is better than him defensively…He just needs a checkered flag to wave as opposing team forwards fly past him..

Well there is no stress as a fan for the remainder of this year ... was sayin at the end of last season felt we had another year maybe 2 before a retool rebuild.. well that was wrong it's now instead so get on with it.. of course the lack of confidence in Drury is one thing .. and how long they limp along with a lame duck coach , who is definitely not part of any re-tool is yet to be seen

Except ZBAD never went to the net! but he was a very good two way perimiter player and EXCELLENT on special teams...DOn't you want to be that agaian, Meeka? On another team?

The sad part about tonight is that only a few years back, passionate and decisive plays, going to the net, driving trough traffic, scoring by beating goalie right upfront, everything that Chytil was tonight, it was Zibanejad, even better.

NEWFIE - teams will trade for guys like Cuylle, MIller, Schneider, Laffy and the great Wil BORGEN..but that's about it...Everybody else would be pennies for dollars or ho hum draft picks....Only move to make now is the Coach...then somebody above Drury has to haave the brains and guts to can that incompetent ass.

Jesse Puljujarvi is on waivers, go get him Drury. He's Physical and has speed, we could use him on the 4th line. Hell, I would take him over SMITH.

The Kid line a collective -7 despite CHYTL's flying..No, Berard is not a good replacement for KAKKAO if yo want a solid line that can play two way hockey..but that idea was flushed down the toilet over a month ago by the Brain Rust

Well there you have it...a good news /bad news situation....it would appear to me that the guys have not given up ,not quit on their team , the fans or the season......but on the other hand ,boy does this team suck. I would trade half of them but you can't get anything back in order to bulid it back up again.. People around the league are not blind or stupid. Now we really have to consider the coach and the GM .but we have to make changes and sooner than later.

Chytil looked like a new man once again and Fox didn’t…I don’t get what’s going on with Fox.

Much more life and should have gotten something out of this one but D still poor and Igor couldn’t win it for them and wasn’t great himself…6 on 4 and you don’t put Chytil out who had been absolutely flying…Laviolette had no feel for in game momentum…

The yin and yang of JOnes..maybe help the PP...but gets demolished by teams getting physical and going to the net...And hey, when your shut down D-pair is MILLER and somebody named BORGEN, the games really don't matter much

Rangers PP1 had a completely different look and it was good. Rangers were also getting puck after puck towards the net and THAT was different, too…and EFFECTIVE!

VCP... I have made this point before but I think MILLER's brain is wired to play defense like a forward(his original position). There are so many times that he just doesn't think like a defenseman.

hospo... infuriating to watch that 6-4 power play and the shot selection once they move the puck around.... it's horrible low probability rather than pass pass shoot...

Rangers deserved better and also got what they deserved. The refs fucked them but they also fucked themselves. They missed the net so many times it was ridiculous. All Cuylle had to do was lift that shot instead of sliding it on the ice. And once again there were defensive breakdowns that led to goals against. Bobo also made more critical saves than Shesty did. But, if…..IF…the Rangers continue to play like this they will win more games than they lose.

I did like the effort tonight. PP looked much better without ZShit on it. So there were certainly some positives. Fox is not looking right. But at least for the first time in weeks, enjoyed watching Rangers. Season is done, but at least want to enjoy few games.

I hate to say it but ZAC JONES needs to come back in the lineup. He is our 2nd best offensive defenseman and FOX is just not FOX right now. At the very least, he will give PP2 a better chance.

Why did miller pass the puck to no one during the 6 on 4. ...it was a blind pass....

Its sad when I can get some comfort knowing that at least we lost (AGAIN)to the SC Champions. ANDREI I was feeling that way, but it's going on too long, possibly gun-shy? Somethings wrong, of course somethings wrong with the whole organization but I digress. Something is really off with Fox and it was obvious when they were still playing professional hockey (the beginning of the season)

This herculean effort to only lose 5-3 should at least stretch Fat Coutry's tenure through Saturday nd the loss to the Caps

Another loss. Shocking. Usual suspects out in the 6 on 4 and we getting nothing but missed nets by Mika.

No matter.. cannot win giving up 5/6 goals every night...last year Rangers win this one walkin away cause they do not miss the Grade A chances like they did tonight ... still that BS 3rd goal call pisses me off

RF4L - MILLER was very good late last year...I don''t blme Driury for not trading hi..Every other move is another story

Kreider didn’t have the puck, Tkachuk cross checks him into Bennett…no call. Unreal reffing

So Rangers have played an excellent 1st period at Tampa and so far 1 1/2 periods in Miami. Don’t care about points at this point, but I want to see effort and hustle and creativity. So far, Rangers have played like they give a shit, like they do have some pride in them. Miller felt a sleep once again…

They were playing fairly well..but not capable of handling FLA when they go to the net....MILLER getting beat didn't help either

All it took was for Kreider to finally move forward instead of standing parked at front of the goalie. He open himself to receive a puck. Excellent shot!!! No waiting there. No windup attempts, just a few simple smart plays.

When somethin is not workin .. make a change... surprise surprise a PP goal ... adjustments

Panthers also plying some pretty stupid hockey giving the Rangers a gift......KREIDER lives

All,I’m looking for is 100% effort this period…play with controlled desperation….show us they want it

JFC - I agree..buy a youngish long term coach is not gonna want to touch this sitution this season nor is Dickweed Drury likely to consider one ifffff he changes..The off season would be another story

Quick rule review.. and the rule is as it always been .. you CANNOT push the goalie's pad to dislodge a puck to score.. it's called goalie interference... completely blown call .. and where is the NHL review in Toronto on that .. should call the refs and uphold the rule.. FFS

I thought all lines played better that period…Even Z line had a dominant and yes physical shift…Kreider flattened someone and probably should have been penalized but they need to bottle it…

Bad goal, yes, but Rangers were running around like Chickens with their heads cut off..so I ain't gonna make too much of it

Listening to the pussycats cast justify the goal.. as the replay is playing .. clearly no attempt at the covered puck .. the stick is jammed into the pad and he just pushes... ridiculous goal

Funny cause drivin your stick into a goalie's pad to dislodge a covered puck .. has always not been allowed .. seem to recall a couple yrs ago Rangers getting a goal called off they scored on a late 6-5 when the player drove his stick into the pad dislodged it and it went in .. mmm good to know that rule has been changed

Well 20 minute of good hockey ..just like all they had the other night..Do they fold like agaisnt TB or do they have more pride left in them (althoug I haven't seen anything from the top six forwards)

Finally some push back from the Rangers when behind and they got rewarded…only to get screwed by their own ineptness and the ineptness of the refs! FUCK! That should have been blown dead! Even when Shesty’s leg was splayed out, the puck was SOLIDLY under his skate blade!

Crying shame no whistle on that third goal…I mean no way ref can see the puck…

Miller doing his Keystone Kop routine big time..and the kid line with it's head up it's ass...Giveth and taketh away

Happy to say I was wrong .. they found a pulse and have been the better team in the 2nd by far ..and if a couple plays went their way .. Trocheck breakaway , Chytil post and Berard missing a wide open net ( but made up for it with a great shot pass off the pads) .. I dare say they could be up 4 or 5 to 2..they keep draggin me back in

Part of the core actually grew some balls after being shown up by the kids..I'll take it...And then the 4th line role plyers convert...

CHYTL deserves that..he has been flying...but, man, I thought he was gonna get plastered

JFC - Yep on LAFFY..he is in the middle of this also....PJ - I noticed that backcheck..something none of the top six forwards would ever try to do

DRURY is in pure self presevation self-serving mode, the taem is secondary..Keep Fat Man Around..so there is somebody to blame for all of Dipshits incomkpetence since no vet is really tradeable..excepth maybe Kreider to Bos for a 4th rounder

Lafrenière has been showing major frustration on the ice and someone has got to call him out on it…it doesn’t accomplish anything positive at all when you slam yiur stick on the while heading to the bench….

Good stretch. Can't score anymore. Soon to be 3 zip and that sign of life will vanish.

Part of that article sounds like words from drury being given to brooks by his source.

After going down 2-0 Rangers are skating well…Just can’t convert these chances…

The Chytil injury and trying to get Z going were the straws that broke the camel’s back…

RDW - Yep..and the CHYTL injury muddled things...but it was never really given a chnce again for the reason you mention

Hospo: Yep. I believe the whole reason behind breaking that line up was to get Mika going....

Remember when Kakkao-Chytl-Cuylle was the best line in the NHL for over a month? That was destroyesd also..Boy how things change

JFC - I am trying to watch CUYLLE, SCHNEIDER, LAFFY nd a few others with some optimism..but they are being devoured by this.....OMG, somebody called ZBAD a bad naame!!!

RF4L - I think so..The ex-Caps coach..On in between periods on the NHL Network...And regarding the coaching...That Laviolette needs to go is beyond obvious as every player is devolving...but, what the fuck is with these high priced assistant coaches Dipshit and Fatman brught in?...Are they that incompetent also?..Coacch gotta go s the first step..then the rest ....but who the fuck would want to coach this directionless mess?

So, once again, Brooks could have taken that article DIRECTLY from The Wall…almost word-for-word, all those sentiments have been presented here by all of us. But, let me ask this…are we gonna keep repeating the same invectives, then same mottos, the same anger over & over & over again or at some point…now that we’ve written off this team’s chances of winning this season…are we gonna put aside the broken record and start watching with a semi-hopeful eye and look for whatever positives we can find. Or are we gonna keep going like this because this shit ain’t fun to read. Experiencing it is BAD ENOUGH, I’m getting sick of coming here and reading the constant drumbeat of negativity. It’s one thing to discuss what’s going wrong ON THE ICE but to read the same mantras constantly is getting unbearable…

Here’s what brooks wrote: “ Ownership and management had no stomach for this. The hierarchy was not going to allow this flawed core to fire another head coach less than two years after beseeching GM Chris Drury to dismiss Gerard Gallant in May 2023 — 11 months after going to the conference final. But that’s what this splintered core has effectively done, even if Peter Laviolette remains behind the Rangers bench much like a broken general pleading with his troops not to desert the battlefield. It is only a matter of time, whether it is this week, next month or the moment the season ends. This is like the old movie plot in which a man has been poisoned and knows he will die in 24 hours but takes the time left to track down his murderer. But in this case, it does not take nearly that long to identify the culprit. It’s the core. Now the splintered core. The Rangers have quit on their coach, they have quit on the organization, they have quit on themselves, they have quit on each other, they have quit on the fans who pay top dollar to fill the Garden and they have quit on New York. This is worse than the Dark Ages of 1997 through 2004, in which mercenaries filled the Ranger$ roster and missed the playoffs seven straight seasons. I have been watching the Rangers for nearly 70 years. I was in the side balcony while the team was an Original Six laughingstock. And I was in the blue seats when it all came tumbling down for Emile Francis in 1975-76. But I don’t know if I have seen anything quite like this ongoing disgrace to the sweater. Laviolette and his staff have done themselves no favors. The Rangers have no structure. They have not defended from Game 1. There is no coherent way out of the defensive zone. There is no forecheck. The neutral zone has become a sieve. The same mistakes are committed over and over again. There have been few adjustments. There has been no accountability. This last-place team does not present a single redeeming quality. They lack self-belief. They do not compete. At this point, there is not a single player who is playing well. This has become an unhealthy environment for the kids who are supposed to be learning how to conduct themselves. Aww, are the core’s feelings hurt? In nearly a half-century in this business, I have never heard more about feelings than I have the last three months. Barclay Goodrow’s feelings were hurt. Jacob Trouba’s feelings were hurt. Their friends’ feelings were hurt. Boo-hoo. Funny, none of them have asked to be traded. I guess they thought they were just going to fire another coach or maybe this time get the GM. This is not about saving this season. Yesterday’s not only gone, so is tomorrow. This is about restoring a modicum of credibility to the operation. This is about reapplying a standard so that Drury and the hierarchy have the proper intelligence to make personnel decisions that will impact the next decade. Ownership proved in 2018 that the goal is not to simply scrape into the playoffs for a couple of postseason home games, but to win the Stanley Cup. The Rangers will take a step back in order to take two steps forward. Drury has made his share of mistakes. The Subtext message after which the team has rolled into a fetal position was a mistake, but the team had just had consecutive no-show first periods; had already been outclassed decisively by Washington, Winnipeg and Florida; and had been humiliated at home by Buffalo. Toxicity had already been in the air for weeks. The GM’s biggest mistake, however, was not recognizing that bringing Trouba back into the room after the events of the summer — documented accurately in this space in July and in September — would prove destructive. Power against power, Trouba won. But what are his winnings? He will be remembered as the worst captain in the history of the franchise, he has been bounced across the country, separated from his family, could be moved again at the deadline and maybe again over the summer. Or maybe there will be a buyout. A more Pyrrhic victory has never been achieved. There are seismic decisions ahead. The core as we know it is finished. But they got themselves one more pelt, didn’t they? Fait accompli. The 2024-25 Rangers’ only accomplishment.“

LOve Boudreau Pointing out the embarrassment and lack of heart, smarts, and, indirectly, coacjhing of the Rangers..And he's being nice...The fucking Finesse Fly Bys!!

Best play of the period .. Berard snow shower... smallest guy agitating ...he can stay IMO...the basic plays in their own end are not being executed.. saw 3 Rangers jump to 1 Panther,, and if not fora deflection the weak side D was wide open .. again ....

Yeah I watch bottom 6er Smith and keep thinking a 2nd and a 5th to get him. What a horrible trade.

ColoradoMark - Mollie Walker: Asked if he had ever asked for a trade out of New York, Kakko didn’t explicitly say yes or no. “There were maybe talks about that,” Kakko said. “I always loved my time in New York, all those years.” Pretty obvious he asked for a trade with that quote and the fact that he signed that 1-year contract so quickly

These core vet pussies--Kreider, Fox, Panarin and especially ZBAD are torture to watch...And even kids liek Cuylle and CHYTL are buying into their crap..That's the reson the Coach AND players need to be gone--what's being done to the kids--- since the GM is doign everything to keep excuses and blames around as long as possible

This team is in a insane pattern: start off discombobulated, give up an early self-inflicted goal, take a few penalties, ok seems to wake them up, they play even, Shesty lets in one he should have had, team can’t shoot either any authority, waiting for an off-man rush next

And you're right - this negative depressing crap is sucking the life and confidence from the younger players. How could it not?

Hospo. Yes hence my Dreary rant. WTF is he waiting for? I guess Dolans permission. There's more spine in my shit than that fucker has in his body.

The only reason I can think of why Drury is letting this continue is to make it so bad for Zbad that he waves his NMC.....other than that, I've never seen management of a team(especially one in NYC)just sit back and watch everything burn while doing nothing about it.

I look forward to watching my Rangers…Even more so now that I am retired…This I can’t take….Painful…

Had 1 Millimeter of hope left....but This is beyond comprehension...Pitiful, pitiful, pitful..Coach sucks, Core sucks , Kids being taught to suck..which is the worst part

This is shameful. Dreary you're a complete asshole to sit idly by as your team is being humiliated game in and game out. Gawd that weasel bugs the fuck outa me. Show your weasel face and explain your behavior. Assprick

So you put Z out on the PK?….Laviolette really is lost….Has to go…Keeping him is insanity…

Games over already ... if Laviolette is still the coach tomorrow this organization is clueless..

LOL .. a goal against in the first 5 minutes on a blind backhand pass giveaway by .. zbad.. I mean this laughablly predictable

This is a great opportunity to bet against the rangers and make some money....... probably not lolol odds aren't great that they will win...

LOL all Elliote Freidman said was that he trusts the dotard and that the Rangers are getting LAVIOLETTE fired. In truth, he said not much of anything at all other than the Rangers are a mess and there are more moves ahead. The Amazing Kreskin he ain't.

I’m honestly not trying to dump on Mika but if he doesn’t get it together, he won’t have a career. He’s not a bottom six guy although we could become one if he really wanted to, but he doesn’t use his body so I doubt it. His downfall is spreading like a virus.

Look-bottom line is Mika is our number one Center coming into the year. You can blame the GM the coach the other players bottom line Mika shit the bed this year so far. Imagine Edmonton if McDavid didn’t show up for the season and was -17 or 19 or whatever. What would they be saying in Edmonton? . Whatever his deal is, he needs to get his shit together. He’s dragging down the team..

Newfie freidman believes brooks has good sources. I can’t read the article but he’s basically writing what he was told. He didn’t absolve the players but I don’t think he mentions drury . Which leads me to believe his source is giving him a message from drury. Otherwise he would probably be banished. The players will do their best to lose tonight and into the new year if they continue to revolt against the organization. Drury has put himself on the spot. I doubt he has the trust of Dolan the way sather did.

Cm DD drury is both a ventriloquist and a dummy. His karma is here and will come even harder.

On this latest Brookie thing..what if he is 100% correct ? Well, let's call his bluff and have some fun with it at the same time. We can approach this in two ways...we can agree or disagree ,like good little brothers and sisters here on the Wall. what I have in mind is a good (I think ) mental exersize. let's all watch this game tonight with an open mind but let's also approch it in a different manner than usual.After all it is the last game for this squad for 2024 ! In stead of shitting on Drury and Lavy all night and complain about the PP1, line combos,ice time etc .let's look at the players on the ice , shift for shift. I know we don't have an iso cam but we all know enough about hockey to judge effort and body language . RIGHT ? So ,tonight,pay close attention to either your fav guys or the ones that aren't. let's go with the premise that a picture IS worth a thousand words. If we ALL do this ,at least by NewYears eve ,we will either agree with Brooksie or have some idea of how we really feel about this team of 2024-25. I know it's only one game but considering the circumstances..to me ,at least ,this is the most important game of the year !!!!!!!!!!!!

I didn't know Kakko had asked for a trade? I think someone suggested that on here, but I thought it was an assumption. There are alot of statements made that Drury did this and said this, but I don't know what is real and what is conbecture. If I were Kakko, I would have requested a trade, mainly because of the pressure of him living up to the #2 pick and the repeated scapegoating (deserved or not). But I really don't remember reading a quote anywhere about him requesting a trade.

Assistant coach Dan Muse has worked a lot with current USA members Drew Fortes ue and Gabe Perrault. I’m guessing he is gonna get the gig if they dump the core some more. Think about it…if you trade 33-year old Kreider, this team is pretty young…depending on who comes back in exchange, of course. I like our core of young players & if Perrault is the real deal the way I think he is and Forgescue can get here in another year or two, Dan Muse would make a lot of sense considering Drury’s ties to Team USA Jrs.

PJ - Kakko spouted off this season…he had already asked for a trade and he had nothing to lose. I was referring to the core shiving Gallant in the exit interviews. Kids were still too young to rip their coach, no matter how much they may have wanted to. But, KK did say he thought he would do better with more ice time.

In the meantime it’s fairly obvious that the players have quit on the organization, except to me that means drury not Dolan. From what he’s done and said the target is on him and lardass became collateral damage. And he will proceed to trade anyone he can unless Dolan stops him. And that’s not absolving all the players. But the architect is building this team in his image and likeness. Igor got one of his signature knives with his new contract and went to the locker room like a kid to sharpen it , trying to absolve himself like he’s the $11.5 million king of hill infallible. Guess he didn’t want to copy the Trouba helmet toss. Memo to Shazam you’re not the captain and you are part of the problem. Guess quick is on the available list. I’m not sure who is not. This is not an enjoyable ride as the wheels fall off the bus.

Andrei I agree with you but I’m not going to tell you what parts I agree with. Maybe you can figure it out.

Speaking on Detroit's mess, suggest listing to the boys on the Hot Stove NHL XM Radio, Saturday's 11am-1pm and you can listen their podcast as well. Really good show. They sure roasted Stevie Y's ass crisper then a marshmallow, on Saturday. But maybe it my hearing that gone bad as well and boys at "Hot Stove" were worshiping him instead, for the remarkable job he has done. But maybe they know nothing about hockey as well, since that's probably the most obvious scenario. There is also a good show on NHL Radio on Sunday's, "Sunday Brunch" with Dave McCarthy. Maybe he also knows nothing about hockey, since he was also "not so highly speaking" about Steve Yzerman on Sunday, or his "wonderful" job drafting. But hey, there are more knowledgeable folks here, no doubt.

LOL. The 'horribly run' Red Wings have a prospect pool that is deeper than the Mariana Trench: NYGARD, Max PLANTE, Ondrej BECHER, Nate DANIELSON, SANDIN-PELLIKA, Trey AUGUSTINE, Brady CLEVELAND, Jesse KIISKINEN, Marco KASPER, Demitri BUCHELNIKOV, EDVINSSON, Shai BUIUM, Sebastian COSSA, Carter MAZUR, Red SAVAGE, Will WALLINDER...and that's before factoring in Lucas RAYMOND and Mo SEIDER...I would LOVE to have Detroit's problems...

Since I clearly know nothing about hockey, don't listen to me. Listen to the real insiders instead. Would advice giving a try to Elliotte Friedman's podcast's today, starts at about 39min (1st one) and about 10:30 (2nd one). Explains it well on why Lavi is still a coach and why core needs to go. https://www.sportsnet.ca/podcasts/32-thoughts/ and https://www.sportsnet.ca/590/the-fan-hockey-show/around-the-nhl-with-elliotte-friedman-rangers-downfall/ ...

Should be interesting to watch tonight as the cats have lost 2 in a row and can't be in a good mood. I can only imagine they're looking to fix that, take out some frustrations and just run us all over the ice and we'll do nothing because we're a soft team

As far as coach is concerned, I would put one of the assistants in charge as an Interim and wait 'til the offseason when we'd have a better choice of candidates.

If I had my choice, I might try to pry Chris Macfarland away from the AVS to be our next GM. Probably not going to happen, but he's a good choice.

Personally, I think you need a different mentality to coach in NHL, vs the old school. This is why younger coaches, especially those that played at some level, have a better track record then the old recycled crew. Those coaches have a very short shelf life. You have to know how to deal with the vets and at the the time, have ability to communicate and get the best out of kids and know how to guide and mentor kids at the same time. To me, the biggest mistake in Drury's tenure was the Lavi's hiring. He either had to get the right vet coach in, or promote Knoblauch. This team clearly needed a coach who would install a defensive system. That's said, in this new NHL, coaches get fired and get hired quicker then the oil change.

Stevie, really? Results could not be worst? Exhibit A - Kevin Adams in Barfallo, or Exhibit B - Old Lou in NYI, Exhibit C - Yzerman in Detroit, and list can go on and on. Those are terribly run teams, and they all have a terrible GM's in charge. Let's not wish for worst to come here.

Stevie... I have no interest in Messier being a GM. Maybe make him the team President. He's the kind of guy that can placate Dolan. We definitely can't have a GM that is both GM and President. That leaves no one above him to hold him accountable(the owner is NOT a hockey fan. He has mentioned it many times).

When a NYR fans says to me that this is the most embarrassed that they've been as a NYR fan, I will usually tell them that they must have Selective Amnesia. Im mean come on, the 60's were tough. Some of our worst teams since the 40's. I think people also remember the 80's more fondly than they should. We used to make the playoffs back them with an under .500 record. Those were the days :) The late 90's and early 00's sucked too. I felt embarrassed for TGO being on the team. We did nothing to protect the guy. He was a skating piñata.... That said, never have I ever seen a GM accomplish what Drury did this season. I lived through all of the George Steinbrenner years and he used to battle with his players and managers on the back pages of the sports rags. George still treated his players well, he was just a media whore in those years.

If messier is interested, he should be given a contract. He’s a proven leader , without a lot of baggage. He’s can have drury’s job too if Dolan is interested. It’s impossible for the results to be any worse.

Kakko didn’t just ask for more ice time…He said he deserved it more than some of his teammates and he was essentially a scapegoat..Pretty ballsy if you ask me…Whether you agree with him or not…

Agree on a young coach but he will have to have the authority to deal with ALL players as he sees fit…Can’t be handcuffed by Drury or it will be a waste of a hire…

RF4L - LOL, yeah, BESIDES the sex abuse coverup, I totally agree: QUENVILLE is just more of the same. Impressive resume and with cups on the right side of the lockout...but the game has even evolved since his heyday...part of me secretly hopes the reason LAVIOLETTE hasn't been fired yet is that they're waiting for Dave CARLE to finish up at the World Juniors.

Z doesn’t know whether shoot, pass or shit his pants at this point…Confidence shattered and has gone on so long he is afraid he will never get it back….Our idiot coach waited till it is a crisis to reduce some of his responsibilities…I feel for the guy but I never had the absolute hatred some here have for him…

Oh, and regarding the rotten core, remember…they had no issue throwing Gallant completely under the bus. Cluldmyiung guys like Kakko maybe said they want more ice time? Sure. But, they wouldn’t be stupid enough to demand anything with their lack of career gravitas. Nope, it would be the veterans who would do the deed…

td - I was also shocked at that Zibanejad post-game interview. He usually speaks softly and you can see him choosing his words as he speaks. But, post-game he was talking so fast and way louder than usual…it’s pretty clear that he is completely stressed out and is cracking. I would not be surprised to see him take a break for mental health reasons and/or request a trade, He can’t keep going like this….it’s actually getting afraid for him.

FWIW, I am not a fan of hiring Quenville and it's not just his role in the cover-up in Chicago. Yes, he's got an impressive resume but he's 66 years old, hasn't coach in 5 years and reeks of old school boys coaching club. I think it's much wiser to find a younger coach who's embracing the newer facets of coaching young professional athletes. Who that is, however, I've no idea and why, if Lardiolette is finally fired, it's quite possible Dreary will reach out to Quennville.

The LAFF-to-the-PP story line is just silly. Gonna get the same results. Nothing new. Team HAD a good second unit...but they just traded an important cog from that unit for a fucking "physical" defenseman who swings his stick around like Pokecheck POTI. Sigh. Bring on the Hawks' video coach. Then at least the rookies would be happy.

JFC31 - I don't absolve the team of anything...but one thing I can tell from listening to them speak and from watching them play is that NONE of them are happy with the current state of things or losing games like they've been losing. Dude, as much as people...or rather ONE guy here...loves bagging on ZIBANEJAD, the interview he had on Saturday...man, it was tough to watch. This is a guy who is in free-fall. A deer in the headlights. Just trying to do anything he can to snap out of this funk, but finding the same results. You look on that bench during the third period of that game, and they all look the same way. There aren't guys smiling and joking. These are guys who are lost. THAT is the big difference between these guys and those horrible teams from the early 2000s...THOSE guys didn't fucking give a shit. They half-assed everything and laughed about it. None of them cared whether they won or lost, because they had the money and were going to the bank...I don't see any of that with the Rangers...Jeeze, another moment that comes to mind? The first shorty they gave up on Saturday. Man, I don't think I've seen KREIDER and Z backcheck as hard as they did on that goal. Those two basically came from the slot and almost caught up...these aren't guys who 'quit.' They're guys who don't know how to get out of the funk they're in.

Well Trocheck and Panarin are already on PP1 so we are adding Laff…I mean he should be rewarded for his one goal in last 17 games…LOL…Get Cuylle and Berard up there…At least they give a shite…

Not sure what's worse these days, the stench coming from the Rangers from top to bottom or all the I told you so's and the competition to see who's exactly right on the Wall regarding the hierarchy of reason's for the Rangers plight (and I am as guilty as much or more than anybody!)...Zero Fucking Fun..Thank God we have the game tonight to look forward to!!..:)

Yep. It's the core. The same core that made the conference finals TWICE and won a President's Trophy eight months ago. Yep. Just rotten. Horrible players. Just no effort. It's not like this core holds any franchise records or anything...or that they regularly battled back into games and won them. MUST be the core...either that or a certain wallster has been chowing down on a jumbo bucket of fucking paint chips.

So the answer for the Rangers is to hire the guy who decided it wasn't a big deal that the video coach was blowing the team's 18-year-old 11th overall pick from the 2008 draft because it was "hard for the team to get where it was”...pun not intended...Sigh...someone was also telling me Mark MESSIER was quoted saying he wants to hop behind the bench, which I still find to be very questionable...but yeah. QUENVILLE. Sigh.

JFC31, finally was able to read the LB article. Well, that's exactly what we have being saying for month now. It's the fucken core that is rotten to bone and needs to be torn down in order for the team to move forward. Plain and simple. Plenty of blame to go around, but the main problem are the players. But then again, what do we know. It all can be fixed overnight with a brand new coach and we will be celebrating a Cup in the summer, right?

Let DD drury trade panarin fox Krieder, miller lindgren and keep his prized coach . Shazam might demand a trade. Who cares? Rip the bandage off. Let it bleed.

That link is interesting - I don't know who the 2 dudes are but the guy on the right who I assume is the 'expert' is calling for a total rebuild including moving on from Panarin, Fox and Igor. Wow. Is there an appetite within MSG for something that significant? If so, is Drury the right person to oversee it?

JFC: Well you know who LOVES east/west play, don't you? Panarin. I'd argue he's the guiltiest party when it comes to that style of play. Because he's so skilled, however, he's often able to make it work. The problem is when it's not working, he keeps trying. And Laf has bought in huge to Panarin's style so don't be surprised to see the new PP1 play similar to the old PP1.

The replacement coach the guy on YouTube mentioned is Quenneville. He only won the cup 3 times.

And Laviolette finally took my advice and made the Trochek Line into PP1. “ That’s his (Laf’s) line, with Trocheck and Panarin, so those are guys that he’s familiar with playing. It’s a different look. Different set of hands. People are moving into different positions, so we’ll see.” But, I would have put Cuylle there and let the Z line be PP2. One thing the new PP1 cannot do is play the same way the old PP1 did. Just play like it’s 5v5 and have Kreider net front. Get pucks to the net, don’t FORCE East-West passes, on,y use them if it’s clear!

TD - both of those theories can be true. True character isn’t exposed when things are going well….its exposed when there is adversity. That’s when you really expose the core values of a person…pun intended. It’s possible that the excitement of the new season and the fairly easy schedule had them pumped up. But, then when weaknesses began to be exposed & exploited, the GRUDGES were brought to the forefront. Look, I’ve said it, you’ve said it, many of us have said it….never seen anything quite like this before and it has us all in an uproar. We’re trying to explain the unexplainable, although I will say that Laviolette has been a big factor with his vet love and his typical old-school 2-tiered system of punishment/reward. There is a rot in this core…young players don’t get jaded like this unless they think they are being abused…which is what happened to Kakko. The older you get, the more impatient & rigid you get that you know what is best and are unwilling to compromise or adjust….THAT is what happened with this old core IMO…they feel they’ve paid their dues and have the right to ELIMINATE coaches & act out because they are aggrieved, Hell, we’ve seen it with the “players” here on the Wall, myself included! LOL!

E - Those are all great points. Again, STRUCTURE is what is going to win games. While I agree, the Rangers could benefit from adding a tough character to the mix, it is STRUCTURE that is going to change things around here. And I also agree on the speed. They simply don't have much of it in the top nine, and what speed they do have they don't use very well.

And since we're on the core, a rhetorical question for you: WHO KEEPS PLAYING THOSE GUYS IN BIG ROLES? We have a guy behind the bench who absolutely refuses to change things up. It's the definition of madness. He shifts lines occasionally. And now the big new thing is putting LAFRENIERE on PP1. OOOOOOOOHHHHH...BIG CHANGE...Like seriously. How can anyone not see this? The dude keeps playing underperforming players...and that includes EVERYONE from the core...All I read here is KREIDER this and Zshit that...Well, fuck people. That's two. Adam FOX just gets a pure pass. Same thing with TROCHECK because he throws a few hits. And PANARIN. Nobody here even mentioned his eight games without scoring. That's our most expensive player! I mean, FFS. Any coach with balls would've flipped the PPs MONTHS ago. Let PP2 work for a while. Or taken the two struggling centers of the fucking PK. Or cut FOX's minutes. Or done ANYTHING. The dude is seriously asleep at the wheel with his foot on the gas just crashing through trees in a forest. So when we talk about the problem here? Let's start there. You want to get into the core? GREAT! Let's first find a coach who knows how to coach. Because this guy literally doesn't give a shit. Man, I thought GALLANT was bad...LAVIOLETTE is quickly approaching Ron LOW status.

Agreed that NMCs are horrible but these aren't unique to the Rangers. Every team has them ranging from full NMCs (like Zbad's) to partial ones (like Kreider's). It's the cost of doing business in the NHL it seems. The Rangers have 3 full NMCs (Zbad, Panarin and Trocheck) with another (Fox) kicking in July 1st.

JFC31 - See, there's just one problem with that narrative: The Rangers came out of the blocks firing. They had a great pre-season. They had a great START to the season. If you go back and watch the team that beat the PISS out of the Penguins in October, and then watch the one that struggled to beat them in November, it's night and fucking day. In other words, nothing was fucked in camp. Whatever drama there was with TROUBA last summer...and I don't think there was much...was water under the bridge. Ditto with GOODROW. They were fine 12 games in. And even to a degree on the roadtrip west. So sometime between, Nov. 7 and Nov. 21, shit went south. The team that is playing now looks NOTHING like the team that stormed through October. The only thing, in my opinion, that can sink a President's Trophy winning team THAT fast is the guy behind the bench. I'm not trying to absolve DRURY...he's a terrible GM and is culpable for has transpired...but the dude that lit the fuse? He is behind the bench...it's bold-faced and staring everyone directly in the eyes...and yet folks just aren't connecting the dots. Tough to blame the shipping company for the boat sinking when the captain is blasting holes through the hull.

I get players need to have some control but they should be able to be fired (waived) just like a person at a job. They need to be held responsible too. The coach and GM can get fired. These long term contracts are asinine.

Friedmann reported over the weekend that the Rangers and Sabres have been scouting each other.

As I analyze this team I need to point out once again that they are a team that on top of lacking the grind and grit simply seems to lack the speed for the game. I also contend as always that the 1-2-2 is not winning hockey. And when you suck at that as well??? They weren’t good with their structure last seasons for much of the time. The need to be a 2-3 in the o-zone like every good team in the NHL and insure the rotation of the structure stays in place as d-men head down the boards. And while it’s a bit different they were out of position on the PP and got burned for 2 SH goals. I mean you cant make it up. It’s such crap. And yet, still they get boxed out by TB. I suspect tonight you will see a similar situation. And Im sure if they do get down early you can expect the whole thing to cave in. Because thats what happens now.

“Trocheck and Cuylle are two of just six NHL players with more than 10 goals and over 100 hits.” it’s not really the core that’s the problem. It’s the lack of respect and selflessness on the part of all the so called leaders of the Nyr. But I believe it all started with DD drury. When gallant was hired, DD went out and got reaves. The next year he unceremoniously got rid of him. The guy was the muscle and the cheerleader for the team. Unfortunately DD can’t be trusted and doesn’t seem to be a man of his word. And his leadership abilities are lacking along with his experience in being a gm. I’m sure he doesn’t agree. But it’s all about his actions and lack them . My lasting impressions of him as the Nyr captain are not good. He was more interested in going home for the holidays and telling avery not to antagonize uncle daddy. He was a captain with his gloves glued on . And he’s trying to make the Nyr into his image and likeness. He’s basically a snake in the grass. Lardass just seems to be a coach who has lost the fire in his belly and has been doing the job way too long without a lot of success for way too many teams. The recent Goodrow, Trouba, kaapo and Kreider stories are only 4 among over a dozen where DD has been questionable. The culture he has created and perpetuated are typical of Nyr land for way too long except for 1994 which was both great and dysfunctional . The dam needs to be opened or all will drown. That’s up to Dolan and drury. The choice is to be the titanic or the Santa Maria, instead of the ss minnow lost at sea on a 3 hour tour which is now 3 decades, with a history of more than 3 generations. 2026 will be their 100 th anniversary. Many here including myself have been their fans for over half of their history.

HOSPO yep we have a disease called being rangers fans....3 cups in 100 years. 94 was half of the oilers. Messier, Tikkanen, Mctavish, anderson, Buekeboom, Graves, lowe. Sather really stepped in gold no way he was that smart. 1/3 correction. only under bob Gutkowski was there a seriousness to win a cup. Folks we are being misled.

BTW, the Panthers just got humiliated at home two games in a row, shot out twice by TB and Montreal, outscored 8-0...Ya think they are going to be a little pissed coming into the game tomorrow night and/or licking their chops at the thought of playing the heartless Rangers??? Oooh boy, tomorrow night should be fun!

Damn, it feels like we are all little hamsters on our last little legs just spinning and spinning on the Ranger Wheel of woe and chaos...It's Drury! No, it's Laviolette! No, it's the Core!! No, It's all of them in a perfect storm of shit...Over and over and over..accomplishing nothing but also unable to get off...Life as a Ranger fan these days!

Yzerman is very well spoken and analytical. FOLKS DOLAN DOESNT CARE. IF THE Building is empty then he might notice. Drury needs to go but Dolan isn't going to fire him anytime soon. We better get used to it.

I heard they went golfing today but the course was hard so they quit early and went inside to drink a few White Claws.

MC. A month ago lots were laughing at Montreal who were battling for last place. Now? A point behind the Rangers and set to push them to 27th overall.

The pathetic quitters are now 1 point out of last spot in the East conference. That number 1 overall pick is getting closer by the day.

And how do we know that it’s the CORE players who are shitting the bed while,they suck their fucking pacifiers? Because the CORE is POWER PLAY 1, that’s how! The POWER PLAY is what gave this team the ability to compensate for weakness in otger areas. Once PP1 (the Bromance Bros., Panarin, Fox & Trochek) stopped giving a flying fuck, tgere was no more Band-Aiding the weak spots. And let’s face it, Trochek is mainly there tomwin faceoffs, He is not offensively gifted…offensively SOLID…but, not gifted. The PP is supposed to be Zibanejad & Panarin 1-timers, Kreider tipping & screening in front and Fox as the General. Well, Fox has looked like shit all year compared to what we know he can be, the Bromance Bros.have disappeared and Panarin is not able to make up the deficit. The only guy doing his job on PP1 was Trochek…he’s winning face-off just the way he should. It’s the others…the OLD CORE…who have fucked this team.

Nothing to say to LB except, “You’re 100% correct!” I’ve never seen anything like this with the Rangers and I’ve been watching almost 60 years and honestly, it’s heartbreaking. I don’t think it’s funny in any way and spewing hatred doesn’t make me feel any better. Many of us are running out of time and I’ll feel no vindication or delight in whoever loses their jobs or gets fired or gets traded. But, I will say this once again…the coaches coach, the GM makes personnel decision & the players play…or they are supposed to. To give 100% effort and fail because of bad X’s & O’s and /or not having enough talent is no sin. What this core has done is a sin and now it has infected the whole team in a way that probably can’t be cured. Brooks could have taken his column straight from this Wall. Drury’s biggest sin…and it really speaks poorly about Drury’s understanding of human nature and what makes players tic…was trying to force Trouba out and then basically saying, “oh never mind…go back and be Captain.” That was a HORRIBLE mistake but I also think Trouba, instead of seeing what an untenable position he was in and how bad it would be for the team, decided instead to POUT and that reflects horribly on him…especially when added to the fact that he forced his way out of Winnipeg. He is SELFISH and did the same thing when asked to leave…”I’m not going because I want my family to stay in NYC!” And don’t tell me that’s not what happened…he SAID IT numerous times, “I put my family first.” Well, he didn’t think about his SECOND FAMILY now did he? And ya wonder why Adam Fox isn’t rising to,the occasion? Another selfish prick who forced his way off of TWO teams to selfishly get where he wanted to be. You wonder why the core is ROTTEN?

RF4L - That was a fantastic game, TBH, and the US didn't play badly...the BIG difference? One team was rested and the other wasn't. The US continued to wheel, but there were four or five instances...at a bare minimum...where you could tell there was one team that had played a grueling match 24 hours earlier and the other that had a day off. In fact, our boy PERREAULT...he had AT LEAST two shots that normally would've been goals for him...but were just a hair off...one that was at the end of the game, right before Finland scored...just a bit off...this is what fatigue does...and it's one of the reasons...a big reason, actually...that you have the pendulum swinging as wildly as it does...Finland started the tourney off against Canada and lost in a shutout...Canada plays Latvia 24 hours later and has almost a repeat of what happened with the US...Meanwhile, the Fins played Germany, had a night off and then came in the game cool and composed...with one small exception, I can't fault the US at all. They played a very good game against a very good opponent...The ONE fault I had was that Ryan LEONARD decided to call an offsides himself. Started complaining about it, and his whole team stopped. The Fins didn't and scored. Youthful mistake, but a big one, and it probably cost them the game, TBH. Had he just played to the whistle, I don't think the Fins would've scored. Regardless, though, the loss brings Canada right back into it and could put the US in a bad spot. Their game against Canada isn't quite a 'must win' but pretty close. We'll see if Latvia can do to a well-rested Finland what they did to a tired Canada. But assuming that goes to the Fins and the Canadians win? US goes home empty-handed.

Mark: Lots of others which had less skill but I can't recall any others where virtually everyone quit and you couldn't even root for them as underdogs....

Ranger47. This team is close but there were some pretty miserable teams, I’m thinking the Kamensky/Holik years maybe?

I couldve written that article for LB before Christmas so he isn’t profound for pointing out the obvious. Now do I think Laviolette deserves to be fired? No, not at all. But hes lost his team. And this is the problem with pro athletes. They sometimes quit on their coach. And maybe it’s the coaches fault but most often hes just the easiest person to move. I think that the team is in a new place. It cannot win. The top-6 is inadequate. The bottom-6 jas some pieces. The defense is an absolute mess. But they have a goalie. It’s not as bad as it looks but standing at the edge of a cliff and realizing that you cant jump to the other side. The solution is just out of range. Nothing to do about it. They need to be bigger, more physical, and much much faster. Did yall see how TB boxed them out again? Like Florida last season, like TB did two seasons ago. Same thing. No getting inside for the second effort stuff. Take away the cross ice and the Rangers are shooting 1 and done low % shots.

The dynamic duo have done the tarantella on the players heads to the point of depression and the result is anger and revolt with losing as the payback. And they can’t get the trust of the players back because they won’t grovel. It’s beneath their legends in their minds and egos. Especially when the bosses use the 2 rules 1 the boss is always right 2 when the boss is wrong refer to rule number one.

I do not claim originality for this, just passing it along. MSG has put into effect a policy that will not let fans leave the garden without signing a non disclosure form prohibiting them from discussing the massacre they just witnessed.

I believe it's a mutiny against Drury..as long as he is here they won't play..... doesn't matter who the coach is....just my theory ... although laviolett certainly isn't impressing anyone...

Crazy how a college coach with a group of 18-19 year olds…some of whom have never skated together before, can put out a team with 100 times more structure than a guy who has a cup, hundreds of NHL games and a team core that’s been the same for the past five years. Yet another scathing indictment of Laviolette. Hey, maybe the Rangers are waiting for this tourney to end to hire Carle!

I ain't bothering with the dotard's column...but yeah, the team has quit on him. They quit on him two months ago. The 6-1 loss to the Sabres back in November was the beginning of the end. This has been MONTHS in the making. And really, if you want to get down to brass tacks, it started with his shitty coaching in the Conference Finals and then right into the season, where whatever defensives structure he deployed was leading to the goaltender getting shelled for 45-plus shots a night. Failure after failure. Overplaying SHESTY. Overplaying his top centers. Overplaying FOX. Ignoring parts of the machine that were failing until they outright failed. Blaming guys who were blameless. And above all, not adequately preparing his team to compete...Did they quit on him? Yeah, they quit. The quit a long fucking time ago you stupid fuck. Read the room.

KIS - It's mystifying, at this point, how LAVIOLETTE still has a job. The only thing I can think is that the guy they have in mind to replace him is either unavailable at the moment or perhaps with another team...and about to be let go. Even if you have full blinders on and think that the coach is NOT the problem...and that's some next-level ignorance there...you have to do something to shake up the team and get them moving in the right direction. DRURY tried trades...which was stupid. And now that's the only option. Since their last three-game winning streak ended on Nov. 21, the Rangers are 4-14-0, for a .222 winning percentage. To their record in perspective, the Blackhawks, who are the worst team in the league, were 6-10-1 during that stretch(.375 winning percentage)...The Rangers have been outscored 37 to 66(!!) since Nov. 21. And in their losses during this period? They've been outscored 23-58. That's a -35 differential on those losses, and a -29 differential overall. Since TROUBA was traded on Dec. 6, the Rangers have gone 3-8-0(a .272 winning percentage), and are 1-3-0 since KAKKO was traded(a .250 winning percentage). So guess what??! Maybe it wasn't all TROUBA sucking at D and KAKKO being a bust. This is a team that is so fucked right now that they'll never get out of the hole they are in for as long as LAVIOLETTE is coach. There is no lineup change or trade that will improve their fortunes enough to turn things around. Not only has the train gone off the rails and the wheels have fallen off the bus, but both collided with tank of nitroglycerin sitting on top of a metric ton of plastic explosive.

I don’t see how anyone watching the Rangers can disagree with much of Brooks opinions. They look like they have quit.

Lb has lit the match that the rest won’t dare to do…. https://nypost.com/2024/12/29/sports/rangers-have-quit-on-peter-laviolette-it-will-eventually-cost-him-his-job/

When has DD zoom call drury ever done this…. https://www.youtube.com/live/sacBP86K6iE?si=wdgpUc9cwfRv1Gvn

Sure appeared to be a palace coup with Drury gpong behind the backs of JD and Gorton to get them canned. And now we have what we have. Drury looks a lot like Sather…..incompetent, throwing assets away for useless vets at the deadline. Cupboard of draft picks thin. But Dolan never whacked Sather despite his failures and he won’t fire Drury either. The a rangers were a lot better off with JD and Gorton.

After last night more bullshit …. https://youtu.be/nwc3u1HGX24?si=WdFE0azx2PjhZ111

This was his Friday bullshit… https://youtu.be/X3oFY08aQro?si=hVpUsQHus34cMJh5

Dd drury is singing “ there’s no place like home for the holidays “. He’s waiting for the dust to settle, his wife gave him a Dustbuster for Christmas. Santa passed over him. And the hockey gods are warming up in the bullpen.

Maybe Dolan Sr was a Ranger fan and suffered with the way we feel right now! Worst, most unlikable and unwatchable team I've seen since I became a fan in '55.

12 shots on goal we lose. 40 plus shots and we lose. Seasons over Tank for Hagens has replaced LGR. Been watching since 1970 and this is the most disappointing team I have seen. Good thing for Dreery that James Dolan has other issues to deal with

3 points out of last spot in the East conference. I hope Dreary gets a lot of double bogeys today.

After these last 10 disgusting performances, it's the status quo? great, have fun golfing today boys, enjoy the day off, you deserve it! Fuck this team.

The best thing the players can do is to keep losing and lardass will be shown the exit. Maybe Dolan will feel better by canning sardine drury.

I’m not sure if DD drury and lardass even know what type of players they would like to acquire. They just want to throw their dirty water out that another team thinks is clean.

Good organizations are stable but also know when to adjust.. from top to bottom this one demonstrates the inability to adjust... from in game, to when the PP looks as bad as it does, to holding players accountable for continued mistakes on repeat, TOI and relying on vets and punishing kids.. to now obvious to everyone that the coach needs to go .. I have friends asking me why the Rangers haven't canned Laviolette yet.. none are Rangers fans..until that mindset/stubbornness changes .. it is going to be a rough ride

Yes what is happening is puzzling. I can’t see them righting the ship at this point even with a coaching change. Might as well go for the gutter and hope we hit on a high pick. Really wish Drury is not a part of this before the trade deadline. Maybe when Dolan gets through dealing with his father’s death/funeral/etc. let’s see. We get to look forward to watching our Ranger vet no-shows to maybe show up for the 4 nations tourney? Who fucking cares? LOL

Hospo. I said this previously: I think Lardiolette is resigned to his fate and almost looking forward to it. He's 60 and been there down that multiple times and sees no problem getting axed and going home to enjoy his money. The stress involved in doing anything truly drastic like pressboxing Z and K for an extended period of games he is not interested in experiencing. His boss with those crappy deals and apparent attitude towards the players have only worsened an already bad situation. He, in other words, ultimately wants to be fired.

Hells: Igor is tradeable until July 1st when his new deal kicks in. If Dreary stays it's doubtful Igor is moved before then but a new boss might have a different strategy. If I was put in charge I'd certainly seriously consider shopping him.

How lo g until lavi is fired. You cant have your star goalie getting so frustrated he goes directly to the locker room. Apparently there are some players that are getting upset over the "lets not give a shit " mantra from the core

Sorry for besmirching/questioning the opinions of others on here...I never do that ...but got caught last night regarding Drury..This is one fucked up situation in Rangerland but no excuse.......OK, until Laviolette is fired or the next pennies for Dollars flaying of the Rangers trade by Drury, what next?...Is LAVIOLWETTE that stuoid and unaware that his only response is to double down on his decomposing vets and minimize the energy provided by kids like Chytl, Cuylle and Berard like he did last night? Tomorrow night should be interesting

Igor's contract not only has a full NMC, but is also composed of mostly signing bonuses rather than base salary. Bonuses can't be bought out. That means that Igor won't be bought out since there is virtually no cap benefit to a buyout. He will be with the Rangers through the 2032-33 season. The best hope for moving him would be a Roy type demands for a trade if his relationship with ownership and the fan base sours in the next few years. But he has all the cards to play. Mika's deal has most of the same features as does Fox's. They are only leaving if the choose to. I think those were all deals made by Drury. He is excellent at painting himself into a corner and negotiating against himself.

https://nypost.com/2024/12/29/business/charles-dolan-founder-of-cablevision-and-hbo-dead-at-98/

Hospo. That he and Lardiolette still have their jobs is beyond befuddling. What is Dolans waiting for? One can only hope it's because he's searching outside the organization for a viable Dreary replacement and without Nob for Life around his lack of insider NHL experience is causing that search to take time.

It honestly boggles my mind that good, smart people on here are defending Drury nd willing to have him plan the future and acquire the players to win...Just take a look and review wjhat that numbnutz nimrod has done and hasn't done since HIS Patrick Kane fiasco which ruined one year..And his ineptitude and inability to read players, teams, and opponents has ruined this year..In between was last year's run which was built on players somebody else acquired and not players he brought in pre-season or at the deadline...nd lets not forget he brought in two coches with a shelf life of less than 2 years...ANyways, He will be the death of the relevance of this organiztion..unless and until he is let go..The only credit he should get, if anything, is for bambooziling a clueless owner to trust him for whatever insane load of shit he has shoveled....

Listen to lardass from before last night’s game. He’s talking cya cliche bullshit…he’s changed and adjusted the system? ….https://nypost.com/2024/12/28/sports/rangers-come-out-of-holiday-break-flat-and-suffer-ugly-loss-to-lightning/

Andrei the players have reacted negatively to DD drury and their complicit coach. That doesn’t absolve them from being a part of the problem. But the cause has created the effect. This has to be brought to a head and dealt with. Since there is no perfect world in Nyr land , it has to start with firing the coach. He should not be here for the rest of the season. If DD drury takes the path of dealing more players and keeping the coach, then Dolan has to fire the kingpin of this disaster. Hopefully he doesn’t just fire him as the gm but stranger things have happened. For the Nyr to spin out of control down the porcelain oasis points to captain of the titanic drury. This team for the last 3 seasons has had over 100 points. The way they are going now they’ll be lucky to get 75 . The answer to the game of clue is the vest did it with a memo not the butler with a tray full of money. That memo was one of the dumbest things a gm has ever sent out. And he can’t blame trottier and his crayons, sather and his cigar, donutson and fishboy for it. This is the result of a gm in training flunking out and finally being exposed who deserves karma for his self absorbed actions. They should have let him go to Pittsburgh for Crosby to deal with. In that hypothetical scenario he would have tried to trade their 3 horsemen of their apocalypse and fired Sullivan for not kissing his ring and ring steak. This clusterfuck has to be undone. Drury doesn’t have the balls nor the ability to take over as coach, which should be a prerequisite to become a gm . And a coach in the NHL should be a former NHL player for longer than at least five years and experience from being an assistant coach before graduating. The Nyr hire too many guys with a gap in their resumes. Qualifications and experience matter before being hired into the NHL if an owner wants to succeed and make more money than usual, instead of a write off or an adult toy .

Good fucking lord. Now DRURY “had” to sign SMITTY Jr.?! Man, this is Bluelinestation-level BS. There were BETTER players who were younger, cheaper, AND free agents. In fact, there are guys performing a lot better than him that cost a shitload less. SMITTY Jr. was acquired based almost solely on the fact he had a cup ring and DRURY thinks that’s a quintessential component of winning a cup for some odd, inexplicable reason(see: Sammy BLAIS, GOODROW, RUHWEDEL). Dubas was weighing whether to buy him out when Captain Clutch offered to take him off his hands. As I mentioned, goddam. Stefan NOESEN was out there for a million less…AND with hardly any term…AND he didn’t cost a fucking second rounder. OH and the best part of that stupid fucking deal?! It necessitated trading TROUBA for one…oh…and BTW? They also had a fucking winger in OTHMANN who could’ve taken that spot…at least if they had a coach who was even halfway interested in playing young players in prominent roles. So don’t give me this shit about SMITTY Jr. being a necessary evil. Oh and also don’t give me any business about some crazy game of 3D chess DRURY is playing trying to pace the way for MARNER or RANTANEN. Both guys are gonna demand contracts in excess of $10 million. Not only would that be a seriously stupid move for a team expecting PERREAULT in a season and who are flushed organizationally with wings…but…you’d need to be a seriously stupid GM to be clearing cap space to sign someone who is seven months away from free agency. Like if there IS a GM thinking that way? He doesn’t belong in the NHL. DRURY is a bad GM, but he’s not totally braindead.

What happens when you move from disgraceful to disgusting? Are we waiting for McDavid to fall from the sky if he doesn't extend with EdM in July and plays 2025 as a lame duck? That would leave us with $11 in cap space to fill out a roster with him and Shesty. Sounds legit. Raise ticket prices. The shareholders are getting cranky.

Pack lose both weekend games. More mediocrity from dreary. My God he's shit in his job...

Yep trade Igor now we are done for his knows how long might be 10 years like it was with sather....why pay Igor to lose. Might as well give up 8 goals what's the dam difference......Igor has to know what is going on. A rebuild or a retool .. he has to know ? Doesn't he??

Dolans father past away....to bad got the wrong Dolan .......I know I should not say these things

Andrei. Seriously asking, what young core? Cuylle, Schneider, Igor is not that young, you can’t seriously count on Chytil, and Laffy. Not too sure about the rest at this point and not sold at all in the 11.5 million dollar baby.

Please , please, haven’t we learned that the NYR can’t build a team buying UFAs. But they can’t build a team through the draft either! Oh man when is pitchers and catchers?

Hospo, odds are actually that both will hit the UFA status and those odds are good. I'm not claiming that Rangers will sign both or even one of them, but cap room flexibility provides a lot of options. Whether it is a major future trade or two or UFA signing, or both, Drury will not be starting another rebuild. There is a young core here already to build around. Just need to get right pieces to fit around it.

Gotta can Laviolette... you have some young talented players that are being wrecked by this mess.. the vets .. who cares... out of the PO's your a seller at the deadline.. get rid of the deadwood.. and re set .. but the longer u wait with this lame duck coach the more damage you do

andrei - this morning I posted something very similar…” Maybe part of the plan is to look towards future UFA’s to get what he wants and he told Dolan that he’d have to be patient, he’d win him some PO games but the ultimate goal is in the near future.” I don’t think Drury intended or expected this shit to deteriorate like this but he has made Dolan a lot of money with his playoff runs and it could very well be that he simply wants cap space to sign a couple of big name UFA’s. If so, let’s hope he does it better than Neil Smith and his Magic Mystery Tour did…

CUYLLE least amount of ice time since early Novemebr while the apathetic finesse prancers gobble up the ice time..Great job by Drury in building a heavy cup contender and great job by Laviolette in doubling down on the guys afraid of their own shadows and the crease..More please, i want to see more agaist FLA! Not...

ooops..incompetent not incontenent ..but Drury sure has pissed away any chance of the Rangers winning in the near term!

ANdrei - Other teams will stop the Rangers from signing a Rantannen..a Marner...odds are they will be extended or..rangers get beat out in FA to cities with better tax deals..At the least, you do not count on signing any big FA and build a winner in other ways..It's not up to me or you, what that time table is..nor do either of us know what is going on in the mumbled jumbled brain of the incontenent Drury

if you had a business, hired a manager that tanked your business as quickly as this .. you would not be sittin on your hands like this.. i mean it's crazy what we are witnessing .. the origination is committing harakiri in slow motion ..

ANDREI - I don't blame everything on DRURY but, to me, he gets the lion's share of the blame..Every GM deals with the Cap so don't bring that shit up...For over two years of off-season and in-season moves, Drury has been beyond inept in making the Rangers a better team since the Kane fuck-up....And the last 4-5 months have been team and locker room killing moves/manipulations........Maybe a good coach could have rescued this team from the ashes with better ice time and roster management but Laviolette has struck out every which way and has fallen back on the same old same old which has failed miserably...And then there's the players...I know you want to blamme the players because you can then say how good your crushes IGOR and Panarina are but the truth is that the players do share in the blame of this melt down, unable to rise above, improve their games as indivduals...but when 80% of the roster is playing worse and worse by the game (Including ALL of the kids), something else further above is going on

vcp, let’s see how many more game Krappo will get playing those minutes without producing, before his minutes are reduced and he is shifted around between lines. Must be Seattle coaching that is to blame for that one for not properly understanding his greatness! BTW, you forgot 1 hit. Great stats, 2+ min on PP, zero across and 1 hit…

Where is this if we tank, and clean house, Rangers will miss the playoffs for the next decade is coming from? What will stop Drury from signing Rantanen or Marnier as a UFA, or both, if they hit the market. Tanking is not my plan, but it’s the only thing left this season is to look forward to the lottery. Playoffs are gone. One more loss in Florida on Monday, and Rangers will need to go .750 or above rest of the way, just make the wild card. Who wants to bet on that?

Hospo, again, blame everything on Drury. Hope that helps with the pain. I get the notion that as a fan, we need to pin point our anger at someone. I hear you. Just like you I’m frustrated with this team, but at the same time, I also see the impact of the salary cap and this all over the team. Reason why Smith was chosen is because he had a year left on his contract, experienced vet, someone who could be a good fit on ZShit’s line and he is very good PK . Regardless of what we think, idea was to let the same team get another crack at the Cup. Drury obviously did not wanted to bring in a salary with term, just like he did knew that next season cap would have been a major issue due to Lafr, Shesti, Miller, Lindgren’s and other pending RFA’s. Again, team’s depth at certain positions in NHL is a pure fantasy. Most cap teams are very, very thin depth wise. So it’s not just Rangers “issue”. It’s a salary cap issue. Like I said, not my plan. It was the organisational plan.

RHET - I didn’t think we would ever win a lottery. Then we won two. It’s not the winning the lottery that I am worried about. It’s - who are we getting, what will we do with them, and what will they do for us? So far the results are very, very shitty.

Tdchi kakko had no goals,assists or shots ....just saying...I was against the trade. Drury fired yet lololol no laughing matter because Dolan is disconnected just like when sather missed the playoffs for 9 or 10 years in a row ... Drury is not getting fired.neither is laviolett....need an empty building then maybe....who knows. Can we get a therapist to join the wall

Serious question..Does IGOR have a NT/NM in his new contract? If he does, does it start next summer or has it started already?...Becasue if Andrei is right, which i doubt, and the Rangers are just going to tank and play for 2032...why would IGOR want to be here and what good would he be for a ranger team in tear down mode......You want to hit bottom and rebuild, you deal Panarina, IGOR nd Fox....I can't see the Rangers going anywhere near a rebuild......Just wait to see the the prospects/kids for vets deals that will likely occur instead....but only after Lard Ass is canned.

Yep. DRURY has been owning this season. You heard it here from andrei. Man dude, your thick.

LIMBO - Great? No..no team in the NHL team was last year..FLA was good and tottaly built for the POs..The Rangers were good all year, I don't care whether it was come from behind or blitzing from the start, they got the the job done...But lost to a better PO team when it mattered....I don't think they would have lost to anybody else last year...But, the GM did nothing to get better this year ....The internal meltdown is a totally different animal and i think it was a perfect storm of shit initiated by the GM but contributionss from everywhere that then took on a life of it's own..JMWO

ANDREI - Individual deals mean jack shit..it's what a GM does to make a roster and team better including deals, treatment of players, knowing his players, knowing his club house, having depth, bringing in the needed elements (like the great Reilly Smith and Chad Ruwhedeo before the crap Troub and Kakkao deals).DRURY has been a total failure for a long time and it all came home to roost this season..no toughness, no size, no cengter depth, no D depth, no chemistry,

KAKKO got 18 minutes tonight in Seattle. Can someone find me the last time he got those minutes in New York?

It's not like we are losing close games.. we are gettin blown out game after game... and the team is lost... cannot comprehend how Laviolette still has a job .. the biggest do over I'd wish for .. hiring Knoblach, he was homegrown in the system and Drury went for another retread

Btw, this draft is really strong at the top, which end at the top 5. Rest of the draft is weak. Rangers really need to be in top 5. There are some impressive kids there. 1st pick is nice, but Rangers are not winning it.

Dear Glen Sather; Please call up your good buddy James Dolan and tell him he needs to fire Chris Drury. Please and thank you.

PJ, disagree on Borgen, though he was fine. Miller? That’s another story all together. If you think that Jones would have maid any difference tonight? Where? Two goals given up on PP, two shorties. That’s a game right there.

Fantasy over reality. Fantasy, Trouba was giving away. Reality, Drury did a FANTASTIC job trading a diminished quality player with year plus left on a $8 mil contract, without eating part of the salary, without giving up picks and on top of it, getting picks back. But then again, what do I know. Some people know it all. Maybe instead of writing here, they should be beat writers with all that bottomless hockey knowledge that they bestow on us, worthless souls…

Andrei…Rangers didn’t miss Jones tonight?…What game are you watching?…Borgen and Miller an absolute disaster together…Oh and nice to see Laff bury his point blank chance on the PP…

This team is the epitome of the old saying, if we didn't have bad luck, we'd have none at all.

Here’s a point that hasn’t been made (I think)…maybe this team/core just wasn’t ever that good. Like ever. It took a TUBA elbow to CROSBY + a 3rd string goalie and then an all time epic 3rd period by CK to extend their last 2 long PO runs. We all know what happened against the debbies. NYR had 30 come from behind victories last year. Hey, sounds great, right? Never say die. Never give up. Shows a lot of character, right? But, it begs the question…why the fuck was such a “great” team always behind? Maybe the simplest answer is the correct one….they never were that “great” to begin with. Gives a plausible answer to the question - what the hell happened this year?

Sick pass by Lafr to Kreider that he somehow muffled on. PP looked better without ZShit on it, but at this point, i would remove Kreider off the PP1 as well.

Tdchi for trouba it was a salary dump which is not terrible. .....I unfortunately the locker room is.

1992-1993 except we have no leadership to stand up and say anything.....issues is the the core sucks and the coach sucks and the GM sucks and the owner sucks lololol..good news is we do have some good pieces but no GM ...... Drury can't build a team we know that.... Well the first period was good.....as bugs Bunny would say.....that's all folks

Shonuff - see, I don’t think this roster is nearly as bad as its record. I’ve said my part about DRURY. I cut bait with him after TROUBA got moved for dogshit. And if there was any going back on that, he burned his bridge with me after dealing KAKKO. But this team…but ultimately? Yes. LAV shoulda been given the ultimatum back in November and then canned. So that IS on DRURY…but I will say: if LAV gets canned…and at this point, I hope he doesn’t, because I really want Jimmy HAGENS…but in the extreme likelihood he is fired in the next week…or tomorrow…you will see this team rebound.

TDCH - You are not the only one that knows hockey on here..and it is not all on the coach..This is Drury's team..Everything was set in motion by the GM..a team he ripped to shreads drom the inside (GM)....But also a coach that had no clue how to mange nd motivate such a team, neither vets or kids in such an evironment...EVERY FUCKING KID IS PLAYING WORSE ND WORSE..So yeah, Laviolette needs to go tonight

I actually feel bad for Zibanejad. The guy desperately needs a change of scenery. I realize he's under contract for another five years with a no move clause that he negotiated for, but I can't imagine he's enjoying this. I hope he can accept a trade, but I have no idea where he would go. Move Vesey for a 4th, Lindgren for a 3rd or 4th, Borgen for a 2nd and 4th, retain on Smith and trade him for a 2nd. The big hockey trade (if Drury can do one of those) is Miller. I'm not sure where he goes, but they have to look at a young center in return I think. Maybe there is something there for Cozens, but with Dahlin and Power on the left side, I don't think there's room for Miller. Perhaps they go back to Seattle and look at Shane Wright or Berkley Catton or maybe something with Chicago for Frank Nazar. I want to say that they should move out Chytil to bring in a defenseman. At the deadline, they'll need to flex their cap space muscle by helping to facilitate trades for other teams and picking up some picks in the process. I just don't think there's any salvation for this team. They're an utter mess.

Even with the change, we're still trying to force it in from the left side of the goal. Instead, how about we try something different?

Also Ovi scored . Guy is like 56 and he broke his leg and scored a goal in 5 weeks .

Oh look. ZIBANJAD, the root of all evil, is taken off the PP…and it still sucks! Wow, what a surprise.

TD : you mean the coach Drury hired ? It’s the GM he just got a 1 year hall pass apparently with special teams and Igor .

I would imagine that Laviolette knows he is gonna be told to fall on his sword for this debacle. But it’s bad. This is a terrible hockey team. It’s not the sum of its parts but some of its parts aren’t worth what they were either.

What makes this all horrifically suck is as usual like every other time in my life … When the Devils are good there is no eastern conference power . We knew all season last year it was Florida . Yeh that gone

I really like Borgen. Let’s hope some of that physical play will rub off on Miller. You know who Rangers did not miss tonight? Jones. Feel for that kid.

Hospo we all agree maybe as bad as it gets . They aren’t losing enough to get the first overall they are gonna fall in Lias Anderson land again or some winger that will show potential in 2031 .

At least BORGN gets mad and takes action, I'l give him that...Wish MIller would get off his meds and do the same..

Let’s hope Vancouver isn’t watching this game and are still hard after BORGEN.

Limbo, I have said it before ZSit was resigned that he should be traded and that Ranges will regret that contract. But I also believe that I was not alone in that. That’s said, I can totally see why it was done since he was a top 15 center at the time of signing.

And why are we seeing the same warmed over vet shit shift after shift in a game like tonight?..Just play the bottom six and fuck the rest of these schmucks..Laviolette a clueless dead man coaching

Shonuff - But look what DRury got for Goodrow, Troubs, Kakkao!!...and the other players with heart and guts that he brought in at last years deadline and this past off season? Hedll, all the great moves he made since Patrick Kane fiasco

Drury needs to go yeserday..but that ain't happening...The players that you want to deal have little value..That leaves the coach..Do it before the FLA game...

It’s a bad dream I almost feel like Trouba , Kakko and Goodrow are injured . Maybe Drury is a weirdo like silence of the lambs . Someone speaks out against him he goes home and puts lipstick on in front of a mirror and dances and calls GM’s

Where is Mr. Know-it-all, you know the guy who used to post here 100 times per day saying how great this team is? Is he Dreary?

Kreider has 1 assist in 30 games and Fox has 1 goal . This is the core . I can’t believe this .

Wholly shit, ZBAD actually went near the crease!! Of course he got knocked on his ass by a gentle breeze, but hey..

I really question at times if Miller understands the difference between 'strong side' and 'weak side'.

ALSO: In regard to LAVI: it's easier to fire the coach than it is the players.... and with this GM, you really don't want to depend on him to bring back equal value.

NEWFIE - It flat out sucks!..I gave up Basketball a long time ago..Foogtball is unwatchable to me..The Rangers are it.....Following your rhetorical question... How in the world does the 2nd best team in hockey last year, one that clawed and fought for each other and their coach all year devolve into this?? Why do they play like they don't care? Like this is the first preseason game of the year? Liek they want to get their coach and inepy turdfce GM fired?

Drury fired ???? Hell .. let him coach this mess out front . He made it let him coach it .What a disgrace . I have never seen a team go down like this without major injury . Drury doesn’t even have to talk to the media . Insanity

Andrei - that is fine, but, instead of us fans that literally can do nothing…can you please send SHESTY the memo? Add a PS to put his pansy ass on the end of the friggen bench like he paid to do. Not sure if it was you or someone else that said that ZBAD will never win a cup here, especially with that contract. I’ll double down on that. The SHESTY contract was a complete disaster. It will fuck the org for the life of it. And we will never win a cup until it is up. At least we got a couple years out of ZSHIT and he was decent in the playoffs (way better than the overpaid and disappearing PSHIT). We will be fucked from that goalie contract from day ONE. Runs away to the locker room? GTFOH. Literally, leave. I wish DRURY had the nuts to do the hard work and trade an almost 30 y/o goalie and maybe get back a core that doesn’t blow. I know, I know….that is WAY too much to ask from from this fucking org.

BTW: How did Kucherov not get suspended for the Tkachuk injury? Make this league make sense.

Rhetorical question.....but how in the HELL did it come to this with this team. My Ranger blood is boiling over.At my age ,I should be sitting back watching and enjoying my life long favorite NHL team and relaxing. NOT !

The blod for this totl teamwide diseae/meltdown is ll on Drury's hands....but...guys like Kreider and ZBAAD are now untradeable disgraces. with others not fr behind..Will Cuylle, the only forward with balls tht can, got less ice time than 7 other forwrds..Oh wait, that becsue there were so many PPs and PKs and lord knows we need to play Kreids, ZBAD, Tro, Panarina, on and on and on

Stevie, absolutely not. There is plenty of blame to go around and he absolutely should not be the coach next season, but this season is on players.

So do we lose every game on the season ..I need to put more down on rangers losing I can make a fortune

Stevie........he actually went to the room to check his phone just to make sure his last cheque entered his account........

And this is much more than giving up and playing for the top draft pick (please God, if so, get what you can for_pout face Panarina, the only chip left)..this is about somehow finding a trace of heart and guts on these 20 bozos and try to put together a TEDAM that plays for each other... Drury has already failed once on this, ripped what there was to shredds, and he's the guy to move the orgnizgtion forward??? Christ, we are fucked!

PJ - Only a brain dead moron or a self serving job saving prick would have kept Fat Country after the Devil debcle...Unfortunately..the worthless, pathetic Drury is both

If Drury cannot "read the writing" now.... then this team is going to be bad for a long time... is he stupid or stubborn ?

Small potatoes, but love watching Reilly Smith on the ice to remind me of one of the many great DRURY trades..And that Finninsg Fuck Flop on D....And that 8 year contratc for ZBAD..and 11.5 mill on a hot head goalie whi=o is totally worthless for his team

We would have to depend on the bounce of a ping pong ball to get a decent lottery pick. I'm not liking our luck this season at all.

Andrei you want to absolve lardass ? You go play for him. He rarely holds anyone accountable. Players are not innocent, but this guy is a stubborn jackass . And he’s going to get guys traded and then he gets fired.

I’m so glad to hear two clowns laughing on the broadcast. Nice d by Borgen btw. Clean house needs to include Joe . Just can’t listen to his voice anymore..

Shazam went to the locker room to scream and cry. Now he’s in the runway hiding his red eyes

Man, I would be skating the third and fourth line…that’s it. I’d bench FOX for the rest of the game too.

They telegraphed the pass and everyone in the arena knew where it was going. Just Awful.

Folks need to realise that season is done and it is all about high lottery pick now and it will start to make sense on why Lavi is still a coach for this team. Again, regardless of the noice constantly blaming coaching, it’s the players, just like it were the players playing a great 1st period and same players shit the bed in the 2nd. Same players needs to be replaced in order to move forward.

Might as well tank and get as high a pick as u can ... other teams have been able to reset .. look at the Craps this year .. but little confidence that Drury has the smarts to orchestrate it

So not a blocked shot but pass never got to Z’s stick….Really doesn’t matter…

The only thing this team had going all year was The Kid line..God they were a joy to watch..Now look whaat the fuck Drury and Laviolette have doen to them individally aand collectively.....It's FUBAR

Memo to DD drury there is one good coach in this game. And Shazam should be suspended for his baby shit of going to the locker room.

What do you expect when your inept GM adoes nothing fter the Devils debacle..annd the out of touch Coach's response is to play rhe main culprits of the decay more than ever....Bog fucking deal they played one good period....every team does...They are a fucking mess from head to toe and deserve this embarrassment and so much more

Time to switch away. This is pathetic. Honest to god. One period and then disaster.

Total mess .. what other organization would continue with this without making a coaching change.. should have happened a couple weeks ago... we are the laughing stock of the league now

Andrei- guess I misread this post: “Just freeken amazing how ZShit finds way to break his stick. Just imagine if that was Lafr in that spot on PP, puck is in and it is Rangers leading 2-1.” I get the second part but sounds like blaming him for the broken stick. Whatever. Whole team including Laff sucks right now!

Stevie, agreed. No team in the salary cap era has won the Cup with their goalie as their highest paid player. We have a $11.5 million a year goalie with no team in front of him.

I honestly can’t be sure Shesterkin isn’t throwing games at this point he looks so bad. Fucking trade him. We can loose like this with anyone in net. The entire organization needs to be gutted. I am truly embarrassed and angry to be a fan of this shit.

Such great leadership from the owner to the GM to the coach to the gutless leaders on the ice. Lardass is doing a good job chewing gum though!

Why did SHESTY go to the locker room? Get the hell on the bench! YOU will be making more than any goalie ever. YOU wanted to be here. YOU wanted the insane NMC that dummy gave you. Unless he is hurt, which I doubt, Stay the fuck on the bench!

So glad we have the sleep wlking Kreider and the finesse Fox instead of Troubs fighting in the crease on the PK..Again..Laaurel and hardy have fucked this team big time...

They come out strong and still fall behind….Then it seems as if they say the hell with it…I mean how is Laviolette still here?…..

They have to fire the cosch. I just turned the game off i cant watch that rubbish. Just horrible the whole thing is out of whack. Who can they bring in as coach. Something must be done

Memo to DD drury you don’t need an $11.5 million goalie. You didn’t get that memo ?

CM, I’m not blaming ZShit on a broken stick, but blaming him on the a completely useless work on the PP, including famous slap shot that you see coming miles away.

No reason at all to watch. Clean house ASAP. No need to wait any longer. From Dreary on down.

PK was a fucking mess. Man. NO box. At all. Structure just immediately collapsed.

Yes Z should have come off the PP long ago….This is some of the most bizarre crap I have ever seen…

This team has no mojo. They are so concerned about missing the net they pass and pass more than they did last year. Special teams are just awful. Don’t understand what happened to the third best unit last year? And unless Shesty is brilliant there is no chance as every mistake (and there are lots) is in the net.

Again. For the umpteenth time: THIS IS A COACHING PROBLEM. Team absolutely came out with energy. But just awful execution. Putting the same guys out, overskating them…stupid, stupid.

MC - I don't "love" MIller..but thought he had become so much more physical late last year..but this year back to the pussy he was....That's the worst partof this Ranger disease and decay..all the young guys have been affected and are playing worse and worse...agaain, great job Dick Weed and Lard Ass

Unwatchable- 0 to like about this team. SCHNEIDER is really the only player im invested in.

Way to go lardass . Your prayers for an early retirement are looking very likely

Six finesse forweards in the top six..4 Finesse forwards on the top PP unit....Drury and Laviolette are just brilliant

I know many here love Miller but I think he is a soft pussy, one of many on this team. Hurry up and trade him before the rest of the league realizes how bad he actually sucks. Yup, Keep putting Z out on the powerplay you fat dip shit. And Shesty sure as hell isn't helping.

Can’t “blame” Shesty on that shorty but he did not play it aggressively the way he usually does…he didn’t explode across he just slid passively. Usually he goes AT where he thinks the pass will arrive. Ugh…

The fold by the vets continues..These guys fucking blow...Good job over the break Dipshit and Fat Ass!

Rangers answered the ? how they would respond.. game over quickly in the 2nd.. Laviolette cannot survive much longer ..c an he

You know, when you telegraph the slapper, it's not going to be very effective. More often than not, we telegraph it. Just saying.

TDCHI - I am seeing the same thing you are seeing in BORGEN..he blows...so does the MIller-Borgen pairing..And the 4th hd their thumb up their ass also

Andrei- I know you hate Z but blaming him for a broken stick? A little over the top!

Assist should go to Miller. First good hit on Borgesn and then a nice turn over that left a front of the net wide open.

And somehow I think EDsgrom had a taliking too and is finally playing like his job depends on it

I seriously have zero ide what y’all are seeing in Will BORGEN. That is like the tenth time I’ve seen him abused.

Andrei - You can say it all you want, doesn't matter..what matters is what happens on the ice...he has plaayed soft as shit for a long time...good game tonight so far..it's a start

Hospo, said it weeks ago about Edstrom, it’s very common for kid's in their first full season to fade away around November till January due to intense scheduling that they are not used to. He is sure starting to look better.

PJ, not many. But I bet, he wont miss it from that spot. Will never know though since it is ZShit on 1st PP and not Lafr. Have to give it to Lavi, he sure finds a way to double down on already double down.

Rhet…Agreed it’s crazy…Fox played the SH goal well and forced a shot that Igor normally stops with one eye open…

A heartbeat for sure ..... Best period this season .....some really bad luck though.

The NYR's still have zero puck luck. I can't believe that Chytil shot didn't go in.... What is there to say on that awful shorty given up by Igor. HORRENDOUS.

Totally outworked Tampa in the 1st. All lines contributed, but could not convert on few good chances, and abysmal PP strikes again. Bet Cooper will get his message across and will see a different Tampa in the 2nd. Just freeken amazing how ZShit finds way to break his stick. Just imagine if that was Lafr in that spot on PP, puck is in and it is Rangers leading 2-1. Fox looks better tonight.

Let's see if they fold..or show soem guts...Laviolette defientely back to leaning on his vets that have worked so well this year!

It looked like the PP was getting a chance and then it bounced over Kreiders stick and it’s a 4-1. This shit didn’t happen last year, or at least if it did the team would come back

Best period in ages.. out play the Bolts and still end up behind... the monkey is still firmly on their backs...if it can go wrong it does..

I thiught much better period and effort than what has happened all season but god. Shesty come up woth that save. Thats a shit goal

The vets really showed their stuff and heart on that PP..Not!! .They are so fucking hard to watch

I should have placed money. Smh. Too bad, pretty good period but special teams are in disarray

This is the best period in st least a month. We’ll see if they can keep it up.

CM - Spot on about the wh Laviolette treats different players..will only lead to the sirl..That said, they have played well this period...and for the first time all year Gentle Ginat Hermn Munster..er..Adam Edstrom has impressed me as a 4th liner...Now..hopefully we can find a way not to minimize Cuylle and Chytl..but that's where we are likely heading...That, and all the publicity will be focused on Panarin..

Nice goal .. imagine when u get off the perimeter and attack the net .. caught the Bolt player puck watchin .. more please..

Rangers actually playing their best game in month tonight. Even ZShit’s line is engaging the play and shoots at every possible angle. Actually like Borgen. Let’s see if they can like this for 60 minutes.

Agreed Carrick deserves benching, but that’s the problem. He hasn’t done this enough with Z and P or Miller or Fox. I get it, those guys are more important but those guys have been brutal either way no repercussions

Offense defense pp and pk all a disaster. At least they are consistently bad in all parts and zones.

2 pm 2, point blows past Miller like he’s a traffic cone and 17 doesn’t cover Kucherov

Kreider takes that shot..and isntead of going anywhere near the net, ZBAD peels to the side w..what a pussy..

We are in Florida so maybe Esposito can un retire and sign for a week and blow the team up old school ???Been watching since the early 80’s and it is very strange to watch this front office let this team go without doing anything. For better or mostly worse we have had decades of the team getting gutted when it’s like this . All strange it’s not like there is a Crosby in this draft .

PJ - don’t think they keep TOI stats, but CARLE absolutely rolled everything. Kept shifts short and the pace quick. That was a master class in coaching. The assclown getting the big bucks in New York should maybe pay attention.

That goal has nothing to do with anything except Carrick being a moron…has nothing to do with anything elsr

LOl nothing changes.. dumb penalty and Miller gettin smoked to the outside for an ez goal

Didn’t Drury once famously say he wasn’t going to let the team losing ruin his Christmas. Wonder if he could still say that today?

RF4L - 6-2 Bolts. Rangers give up a goal in the first two minutes. Rinse, repeat. Onward to the HAGENS sweepstakes!

That’s a fantastic deal for the Avs. Juuso PARSSINEN is a good young center with size and physicality. Essentially got him for a third rounder. Rangers coulda used a kid like this.

Any predictions on the score tonight? Mine is 4 2 Tampa. Bolts BTW 7 and 3 in their last 10. They are 6 points out of first in the east with a bunch of games in hand. No easy opponent here. I mean Tampa not the Rangers...

Drew FORTESCUE, BTW, probably isn’t far from the NHL. He’s a very solid defender. Actually reminds me a little of LINDGREN.

RF4L - the more I see of HAGENS, the more my hope is this season really is toast, the Rangers lose 30-35 more games and get the top draft position. If that’s the play, maybe we’ll see a reverse DRURY, and a sell off of SMITTY, BORGEN, LINDGREN, VESEY, CARRICK, RUHWEDEL, and maybe MILLER and KREIDER. THAT would get us pole position in the next couple drafts.

Likewise, Danny NELSON and Cole EISERMAN are NOT gonna be fun to watch on the Islanders…

TD. It's their only reasonable strategy. BTaw so many kids on the US and Canadian teams selected in 2nd and 3rd rounds. Too bad idiot Dreary views them like yesterday's stale bread. Hutson was a 2nd rounder.

I do not like the fact that the Capitals will have Cole HUTSON and Ryan LEONARD in the very near future…also, I would trade just about anything for a chance to have LEONARD-HAGENS-PERREAULT as a line next season.

Halfway through the game and they’ve all but neutralized the LEONARD-HAGENS-PERREAULT line…though they just scored on the PP…

RF4L - dude, they are playing really boring hockey, but I’ll be damned if it’s not effective. Just solid, real good defensive hockey. They’re playing 5-on-5 like it’s the penalty kill, and there’s just nowhere to shoot. Wish the Rangers would watch this…

Man, I don’t know what the fuck is going on with Latvia, but this collection of no names is pretty good. Get the distinct feeling they’re rope-a-doping the U.S.

TD. An incohesive Canada effort, strong goaltending for Latvia and hard work by the skaters overall especially in their own end. Canada had almost 3 x times as many shots but tons from the perimeter.

I know it's just the first round and all...but holy SCHNIKIES...A shootout loss for the Canadians against...LATVIA?! Man, US is about to play them and I'm wondering what's what.

Hospo - my take on DRURY and LAVIOLETTE is that they're really hoping that whatever malaise is impacting the Rangers will lift in the second half...DRURY...and PLEASE don't take this as a defense of him...really has his hands tied. Everyone in the league sees how desperate the Rangers are for a spark. Teams in the middle are laughing, because they're giving organizations like the Jackets, Penguins and Flyers hope for a post season. Even the Senators and Lighting are loving it, because this means a prime wildcard slot is up for grabs...And in the Western Conference, which has the three worst teams in the league...with exception to maybe the Preds, they're all waiting to dump players at the deadline...so there's no rescue via trade. Would take a GM of CHIARELLI proportions to trade anything other than pennies on the dollar for the Rangers...DRURY's only real hope is that someone like OTHMANN or maybe LABA or one of the NCAA prospects rises to the occasion and brings a bit of youthful exuberance to the mix...So he's basically got his hands off the wheel...and LAVIOLETTE? That dude totally knows how fucked he is right now...and his approach is that he's hoping and praying that whatever funk these guys have is fleeting...maybe a matter of getting old injuries healed or just getting a bit of confidence in the team...I mean, if you have FOX, PANARIN and LAFRENIERE come back online? MILLER too? That's gonna buy some wins. Add in one of Z or KREIDER? Even more...so he's hoping the ship will correct itself rather than try to adjust his approach...Anyway, the end result is going to be the same: More losses. Unless they try something radically different, the NHL has figured out the Rangers. They can't go back to summer 2024. That ship has sailed. And LAVIOLETTE seems to have no inclination to try something...ANYTHING...new.

TD - I’ll take it! But, I think MISA (too close to MIKA? Haha) would be a great second choice. The franchise desperately needs something it hasn’t had ever - a can’t miss, high draft pick, homegrown, true 1 C.

Wildcard - You really do have a selective memory, dude. Like, I don't even know where to start with that. Let's fall with the fact that LAFRENIERE was in the EXACT same position as KAKKO was until LAVIOLETTE came a long and gave him a shot on the PANARIN line. There were fans...RANGER fans...calling him a bust. The general thinking was that he'd be moved for 'next to nothing.' As for points? Again...You're just being contrarian and picking meaningless stats to try to push some sort of idea that KAKKO was a bust and that the Rangers were in no way culpable for making him a mess. And that's laughable dude. 100 percent laughable. The Rangers took a kid who oozed talent, was well ahead of his peers in terms of development and they broke him down. The pounded him into being a Jesper FAST-type player and didn't cater to ANY of his strengths. And they did it with coaches who are all but inept, starting with QUINN, continuing with GALLANT and leading into LAVIOLETTE. And they were on the path to doing the same EXACT thing with LAFRENIERE before he got his big break on the PANARIN line...And as an aside? I have a very good feeling that wasn't a bench decision either...KAKKO had his chances? Sure. But you're sitting here saying he had every opportunity to be a top player and failed? That's total bullshit. He was marginalized, tooled with, and used like a fucking grinder. You look at how other teams have developed top wingers...like SVECHNIKOV in Carolina or STUTZLE in Ottawa...these teams gave them roles, were patient, dealt with first and second year lumps and then moved them into prominent roles. The Rangers never did that with KAKKO and only barely started doing it with LAFRENIERE. Arguing otherwise is totally ignoring facts that are literally slapping you in the face.

Limbo - At this point? I would be very, VERY surprised if Jimmy HAGENS doesn't go first-overall. He's the best forward prospect out of the USNTDP since Jack HUGHES. Probably better than HUGHES, TBH...Tell you what...One of the best things that could possibly happen to hockey in the tri-state region would be for the Rangers to get this kid and for us to watch the HAGENS-HUGHES rivalry blossom. For some reason I thought he was in the 2026 draft...but seeing that he's not? I am ALL OVER losing every single game for the next three months to draft this kid. But it's gonna be a tough race to the bottom for THAT sweepstakes. Crazy to think: The Rangers are just 7 points away from being an honest contender in the HAGENS sweepstakes...and they've been beaten by two of the three worst teams in the league.

For the life of me, I can not understand how a move (coach or player(s)) was not made after the shit show of the last two games and the utter chaotic sopa opera that is the New York Rangers....Perhaps Drury is just lenthening the Laviolette era so that all the blame will fall there and not where it truly belongs the most?????Anyways, none of the vets other than FOX and PANARINA are really dealable for anything worthwhile (betwen ZBAD's total decay and apathy and Kreider's attitude and declared back issues)....Unless you want to give away Schneider, Miller or Cuylle like you did KAKKAO....And then what's the over/under for the number of games CHYTL goes before being knocked out for the season?...Of course, like with D-man and toughness, Drury has that covered with all the NHL center depth he has amassed in Brodz and LESYCHYSN!

RF4L - I didn’t even think of the youth blocking angle. Very good point! That’s why you get paid the big bucks, lol.

Limbo: Again we agree (operating in the mode of half-measures). Classic example is the signing of Panarin. Yes, statistically you can argue strongly that he's delivered fabulously, at least in the regular season but he's also taken up spots in the top 6 and 1st PP during his entire tenure. And of course at his salary and how he's delivered statistically, so he should. But in doing so he's also served to block the progress on young players. IMO, his signing was 2 years too early. That subsequently set the stage for the resigning of Kreider and then Zbad and finally, the Trocheck UFA signing. All of those have paid a certain amount of dividends but at the same time, magnified the blocking issue the Panarin signing created. A related issue that unless addressed soon will negatively impact the organization's future is Dreary's ill-advised trading deadline moves that has seen a myriad of draft picks flitted away for ineffective rentals. These moves were executed in an attempt to push the veteran laden group over the top. Add to that the reluctance, after the miserable DQ coaching failure, to hire a young, forward thinking head coach. Instead, it's been 2 vet stroking old school coaches. All examples IMO of the half measures criticism you cite. In short, the organization initiated a legitimate rebuild phase then part-way through it (re after accumulating a bunch of impressive young assets) began making moves prematurely and in doing so, compromised a HUGE part of a rebuild: Developing the young assets the rebuild resulted in. The end result of all this has been failure (assuming winning the cup was the goal).

Limbo: Again we agree (operating in the mode of half-measures). Classic example is the signing of Panarin. Yes, statistically you can argue strongly that he's delivered fabulously, at least in the regular season but he's also taken up spots in the top 6 and 1st PP during his entire tenure. And of course at his salary and how he's delivered statistically, so he should. But in doing so he's also served to block the progress on young players. IMO, his signing was 2 years too early. That subsequently set the stage for the resigning of Kreider and then Zbad and finally, the Trocheck UFA signing. All of those have paid a certain amount of dividends but at the same time, magnified the blocking issue the Panarin signing created. A related issue that unless addressed soon will negatively impact the organization's future is Dreary's ill-advised trading deadline moves that has seen a myriad of draft picks flitted away for ineffective rentals. Add to that the reluctance, after the miserable DQ coaching failure, to hire a young, forward thinking head coach. All examples IMO of the half measures criticism you cite. In short, the organization initiated a legitimate rebuild phase then part-way through it (re after accumulating a bunch of impressive young assets) began making moves prematurely and in doing so, compromised a HUGE part of a rebuild: Developing the young assets the rebuild resulted in. Instead, it's been 2 vet stroking old school coaches. The end result of all this has been failure (assuming winning the cup was the goal).

And, for the love of all hockey gods everywhere, can we please, for ONCE, be the team that gets “free” picks for retaining salary? We have been so effed over by other teams with this trick over the years. If we don’t use this stupid accounting loophole now, we never will. Need get at least a few 2nds, just for retaining.

td: I don't care if it was 10% of an actual season. he did absolutely zero. That one year Zib and Kreider had one of their best seasons on record. That started day one, they were consistent, its one of the only years those guys were actually consistent. He played 37 of the first 41 games of the season, at the point he went down he had 14 points, GOODROW had 17!!! Strome 30, Kreider 38, Zib 39, and Bread 41...other than Goodrow Kakko had played with all of them. He played nearly half the season on the top lines. Among forwards the even strength ice time went: Panarin 1, Strome 2, Zib 3 and Kakko 4. He had the 4th most ice time at even strength among forwards on the team 40 games in. Stop making excuses for him. Just stop. Hell, he was 6th on the team among forwards in OVERALL ice time. With 2 and a half more minutes of ice time than Laf and 3 more minutes of ice than Chytil. SO lets dispense with the bullshit about Kakko being held back and never given a chance. Facts are in deed facts. He never stepped up, and the last calendar year or so he has regressed. There is no reason for a coaching staff to do anything to give him more ice time. The entire NHL saw him fail with the opportunity. Even at the time I said that, he failed to take hold when given the chance, I always expected him to turn a corner and take charge of it, and force more ice time like Laf has done. But he just didn't, and then again, he only responded to the press when scratched, and not on the ice. Yet here you are blabbing about poor Kakko. You dismiss the 70% and say the bulk of the time he was placed on the 3rd line. NOT THAT YEAR! By the way the VERY NEXT SEASON after 40 games he was 5th among forwards in total time on ice per game. 4th in even ice per game...that was the Kid Line year...but he had just 18 points at that time. Still he was among the ice time leaders among Forwards. The next year he got hurt 20 games in, but was 7th in overall ice time and even ice time. He had a whopping 3 points. That 3 points by the way is the same number that Pitlick had in 10 games. Again. Stop blaming the coaches. Stop blaming the GM, stop reaching around desperately looking for who was at fault. The answer is right there, its easy, Kakko, Kakko is the reason Kakko got scratched, Kakko is the reason Kakko wasn't a staple higher up int he lineup, Kakko is the reason Kakko didn't get a lot in trade. Kakko is the reason Kakko doesn't compete hard on the ice, Kakko is that reason.

RF4L - re: draft picks and retool. The problem, as I see it, those two things are not exactly in phase with each other. And TBH, that is my overall fear. I am fine with a cohesive and well thought out cup winning strategy (regardless of WHATEVER that strategy is)…as long as we completely follow through with the correct actions to make that strategy a success. The latter is WAY more important than the former. As we have seen, there are plenty of ways to get to a cup. The issue - NYR have historically operated with half measures. And half assed results are the natural consequence. What will happen this time? We will see. For all his faults, I don’t think DRURY is completely stupid. I think he knows what to do. But, I am not convinced, at all, that he is capable of following through. I’d be very curious what he would do if he was say the GM of NJ or BUF. It’s funny because it’s as if a ceti eel crawls into every NYR GM’s ear upon taking the job that makes them incapable of forming a plan and fully implementing it. Unless lots wins, lots of money, some playoffs success, and no cups was the goal the entire time. If so….well done.

PP2 looks like shit anytime I see them…They have trouble setting up…PP1 without Kreider looked much better?….Yes Laff really sparked them….The need a coach that changes what they are doing…Kreider can’t tip shots that never get there…Z should be off any PP at this point but watching Chytil lose every face off doesn’t get it done…

Hospo Dolan has put up with much worse with the running…ehm..ruining of his favorite team. The Knickerbockers. So I doubt what is happening to the Rangers bothers him all that much, yet.

I think Rangers fans should file a class action lawsuit against Dolan and MSG for misrepresentation and gross negligence at running the franchise so poorly yet constantly raising prices for tickets and tv access.

Limbo. I get the pain but that shouldn't preclude the Rangers from embracing the correct strategy. Unless there's a miraculous turn around in the next 4 to 6 weeks that strategy is to acquire picks (especially crucial thanks to idiot Dreary flitting so many away for nothing the past 3 years) and young players/prospects. IMO a rebuild isn't needed (there's enough young seasoned NHLers on the team now); it's a retool that should be initiated with one primary objective being the leadership change, something that has already started. Anything else risks plunging the organization into long term mediocrity.

JFC: "When they make the POs...". Next year under a new GM and coach, right?? ;^)

See the 1st rounders here. Just brutal… https://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/teams/dr00007089.html

RF4L - at the beginning of the season, I was 95% sure that 1st was as good as gone. Now? Flip those odds. On the draft. There is no consensus number 1, but the top 4 seem to be top end. But…because…Rangers…I predict a repeat of 2017 - NYR will pick right outside the studs. Will they get a dud like LISA ANDERCRAP? We’ll see. But the odds are not good, at least for NYR. Since the LEETCH pick 40 years ago, almost all of the their top 10 picks have been complete washouts or completely underwhelming. The only one that is even close is LAF. I’m too lazy to run the numbers, but I’m gonna guess that the NYR hit rate is WAY under average. Some are from bad luck, some are from bad development. But the vast majority reeks of an org that THINKS they are way smarter than everyone else. Gotta justify those big bucks that DIPPY DOLAN hands out, right? Either way, the results are terrible. We would be much better off just having a monkey throw at a dartboard. I’m free on draft day. Anyone else want to join me, lol?

JFC/TDCHI - There is always the difference between things we want to see and things that we are likely to see...Despite his team destroying incompetence, DRURY will stay through out the year at a minimum..Have no idea what his relationship is with DOLAAN and what they talk about..DOLAN can not be oblivious to the stench emnating from NY and the laughing stock the Rangers have become..and in the shadow of the Devils now....but...Has Dipshit Dickweed Dumbfuck Drury sold him on who to blame and a short tange plan (1-2 yeaars) that he might have that would make whethet they come back to resembling a hockey team and/or making the POs this year meaningless.....And he always has the Fire Laviolette card to play for more time...ANd, based on the cluelessness of Laviolette's rister managemnt, that card will need to be played relatively soon....I have zero confidence in Drury but when you have an even more clueless or not caring owner tht leaves the teqam in the hands of such an inept GM, well, the team is royally fucked for quite awhile

2 goal scored in last 4 games. Whats next? Maybe they should forfeit some upcoming games.

Rangers are 1/22 on the PP in their last 8 games! Yet, after a 3 day break, Laviolette comes back with the same lines. Once again, the “we have to keep playing them until they get hot” bullshit prevails. And then, when we get to the PO’s and the PP on d again goes cold, PP2 is useless from lack of PP ice time. Perhaps Laviolette will simply start allotting the PP time based on merit instead this time. PP2 seemed to be doing OK when given a chance….a more basic apptoach instead of the same old, same old E-W bullshit

Here's who I want the Rangers to select: https://www.eliteprospects.com/news/nhl-prospects/roger-mcqueen-could-become-a-first-overall-caliber-prospect

Just posted a mock draft link where the author has the Rangers picking 14th. Kid looks like a legit top 6 centre

JFC31 - Well if you're saying DRURY is safe...then we have no argument! I think there's a chance...a SLIGHT chance...that if he misses the playoffs this year, he could be on the hot seat. Two years in a row would, however, do it, IMO...All I'm saying is that this speculation among fans and pundits...that the Rangers under DRURY's stewardship would do a 'hockey trade'...one that would improve their team in both the short and long terms...then you really gotta watch how this guy operates. He has his core. And any changes he makes to it from here out will be 1. an admission the Rangers are resetting; and 2. will be for picks and and expiring contracts.

Anyone saying KK wasn't marginalized by THREE coaches is either not watching or not comprehending what s/he was seeing.

Rangers now sit 23rd overall 3 points out of 29th and 7 out of 32nd. There's no true number 1 pick but there are impressive kids in top 5 to 10 spots. Will Dreary dare trade that pick??

Hospo/TD - I didn’t say that the upcoming Drury moves were going to save this team….I simply said that he has a plan that he has passed by Dolan. I don’t think he’s in danger at this point. He has made a lot of money for Dolan with the teams he has iced, despite the fact that they were largely of Gorton’s making. The fact that he signed Shesty long term makes it obvious that he is not interested in rebuilding this team. He wants to remake it. My biggest gripe with him at this point is that if he is not happy with this core and thinks it can’t win a Cup, then why the fuck did he sign Zibanejad? Could be he figures he can be a good center, just not a #1 center…figured he’s valuable just for his defensive prowess, PK, etc. But, now even that prowess seems to have disappeared. Remember, word was that Drury was pissed off at Panarin’s PO performance 2 years ago. Word all along has been that Drury wants a bigger, heavier, more physical team. That is likely what he is aiming for. Maybe part of the plan is to look towards future UFA’s to get what he wants and he told Dolan that he’d have to be patient, he’d win him some PO games but the ultimate goal is in the near future. He’s already kept the 1st part of the bargain with making the playoffs and producing that PO revenue for Nepo Baby Dolan. That’s his only concern with the Rangers…don’t lose money, The Knicks are the team he cares about….

The rangers have tried many different players on the bromance line. Most have been players that are supposed to be goal scorers. Whst if they traded for a giy like greenway from buffalo. I guy who is tough. Works the boards and can skate. Maybe it would open some ice and give zbaby a feeliing of security

Wildcard - That's playing very free and loose with the facts, re: KAKKO. That 'big chance' he got with the top line? He only played half the season before going down with an injury, so 70 percent...and that sounds really high regardless...is also 70 percent of 50 percent. And that was at 5-on-5. You want to sit back and tell me GALLANT and QUINN heaped icetime and responsibility on him, I'll say you're friggin' nuts. He had two seasons interrupted by injury, and for the vast majority of his time in New York he was placed on third line. Also, I will note once again: His last game in New York was 48 hours after he requested a trade and was told it was being granted. While I don't think it's a great idea to undercut your coach on the way out, the shit he said was ABSOLUTELY true. He did nothing to earn being scratched, while there were at least five or six other forwards who did. He was scapegoated and he asked to start anew...Oh, and while he wasn't really put on a grinder line in New York...the dude was put on a line with the franchise center and one of its top scorers right off the bat. Not saying he's gonna stay there, but obviously Seattle sees the virtue of surrounding him with good players...as the Rangers should've seen...but didn't...bottom line is if you're trying to argue KAKKO isn't a good player, I'll again say you're nuts. He's a fantastic player. The type ANY coach would want on their team. He may never be a star, but he's the kind of guy who makes things happen for other players...oh and I'll close on this: If you're wondering what happened to CUYLLE's production all of a sudden...welp...I can tell you where the drop off came...just so happened to coincide with KAKKO getting scratched and then traded...

“He’s an important piece of the team, and we’re moving forward,” Laviolette said. “We need him and everybody to be great players from this point.” “I don’t think one brush does it,” the Rangers bench boss said. “It’s something one game. It’s something different the next game. We lose a 2-1 game against Carolina. They score a couple of power-play goals, and then we don’t generate very much in that game in Jersey. So it’s different every game. … But we’ve got to get past that and turn a corner.” “We’ve got to start coming out of this break, use it as a reset, move forward and go down to Tampa and win a hockey game,” Laviolette said. “Then push our way back in the playoff race.”… lardass is no Picasso. He should scratch himself for at least one game. DD drury should send out an addendum to his memo saying that his coaches are all available too. With a ps from Dolan saying his gm is also available. The fish stinks from head to tail.

Bottom line DD drury will take whatever he can get for whoever he wants to trade. He’s more interested in getting rid of than getting back in return. That’s what happens when you put up a for sale sign with up to 50% off and accepting all bids and almost all items are for sale.

Hospo: Undeservingly minimize Kakko? No... he earned his place. Over and over again. in 2021-22 he spent nearly 70% of his even strength ice time with Kreider and Zib or Strome and Panarin. The next season was the Kid Line season, but he still spent 20% of his ice time at even with Kreider and Zib, last year he spent 30% of his ice time with them. At the same time his production fell well below that of his linemates. In fact, the seasons he spent 43% of his ice time with Kreider and Zib those two combined for 48 and 39 points respectively at even strength, Kakko had 16. Then he gets scratched this last time, goes all viral about how upset he is, calls teammates worse players than him, promptly gets a chance to put his money where his mouth is, went out on the ice and well, quite frankly showed nothing. He played with no energy or emotion, like he always does. I was always waiting for him to start bringing some emotion to the ice, waiting for him to show frustration and maybe get a little pissed off that things were not going in, to play with some energy and elevate the play on the ice, to step up when the team needed someone. He never did that, or at least very rarely. But it's clear that he wasn't afraid to gripe about playing time...he went to the media with it, and typically that means someone has already voiced that internally to others. It was likely not the first time the coaches or management had heard it, either directly from him or his agent. I am tired of everyone trying to find some big bad boogie man behind the bench or up in the management offices. Why has no other player had the same issues as Kakko? It was Kakko, and when you take the time to look back at his time and look at other players over that same time. It becomes very clear. And you want to know something crazy...he wanted a trade, he thought he was being misused, fans here still say that. Well then why in Seattle, is he averaging 10 seconds more at even strength per game and 11 seconds more on the PP? Why is it that a whole new coaching staff has had a look and basically, he is being deployed the same way? Why is it he has basically the same shots per game rate of about 1.5-1.6 shots per game? Why is he the same guy, being used the same way? Because he is that guy. Someday he may turn a corner, hopefully for he does, and it may have part to do with the dimmer lights and expectation in Seattle. But the man earned what he got in NY.

OK, but serious question..I undrstand the benching of a player like Kreider who was piss poor the game before and maybe a message needed to be sent to him....but...what kind of message are you sending when you bench a Kredier, and undeservingly minimize then bench KAKKAO while you continue to play and play arguably the worst player all year (ZMOPE) and never benched the two D-men playing the worst (MIller, LIndgren)...Talk about mixed fucking messages...I can't see this not contiuning to spiral out of control....BUt......there is always a fool's hope..so I will watch tomorrow ..and Monday..and...

RF4L - Yeah, that was pretty much my point! I don't have time for this inept GM and his shit!

JFC - Can't say i"m buying that but who knows..What i do know is that if Drury does get the deal he is looking for, wahtever it is, it will downright suck like every other move he has made for about 2 years..Team is fucked as long as Drury remains...The team continues to shit the bed with Laviolette and whatever crap Drury gives him...Laviolette will have to go eventaully..One excuse gone....Then, .Unless somebody opens DOlan's eyes, Drury will reamin for another year or two of, at best, mediocrity, and then another rebuild will begin..So maybe by 2032 another window will open

JFC31 - Look: We got BORGEN, VAAKANAINEN, a third, fourth and sixth round draft picks for a top-nine forward and a top four defenseman. That's not pennies on the dollar. That's giving away players. Plain and simple. TROUBA? Well, there's an argument for it being a necessary evil to avoid having to pay someone to take the final year of his contract...but KAKKO? Dude, that was a move of desperation. KAKKO wanted out. DRURY took the first offer he got. ANYONE who is traded right now from this team will be moved for picks and expiring contracts. Or toss-in contracts, which was essentially what VAAKANAINEN was. He was going to be put on waivers and they gave him to the Rangers instead to shed a contract...so unless the Rangers are going into full tank mode...which I doubt they are...but even if they DO decide to hit the nuclear option...what they're gonna get for Z and KREIDER and LINDGERN and whoever else you want to throw in will be next to nothing. The only thing it'll do is replenish some of the picks DRURY has frittered away over the past three seasons for mercenaries. The BIG problem right now is that LAVIOLETTE still seems to be safe in his job. And my fear...or hope?!...is that he'll be kept for the year. If that's the case, the Rangers may very well be in the running for HAGENS, because this team has...as unbelievable as it seems...yet to hit rock bottom.

OTHMAN is anotherv mini-me forward that trys to play big..Another injury waiting to happen..Can we somehow get another big man that plays big to add to our grand total of one (Cuylle)? Oh, I forgot the incompetent Dickweed Drury is the GM!!!....nywaays, at least Othman and the Human Buzzsw stick there noses into everything unlike our own Hermn Munster on skates in Adam Edstrom

OTTER with a secondary assist. GREAT to see him back. Honestly, the only bonus I can see from the KAKKO debacle is that it DOES carve out a winger position for him and BERARD to tussle over until SMITTY Jr. flies the coop in six months...would be interesting to see a line of OTHMANN-TROCHECK-CUYLLE for a few spins. Maybe let CHYTIL jump up with PANARIN and LAFRENIERE. And BERARD with KREIDER and Z.

JFC. I sure hope you're right but I won't believe it until/unless I see it. Worse? Dreary's track record on trades is pathetic and given the KK return getting worse. Why would that suddenly change?

I am becoming more and more certain that Drury has the 100% support for his current approach to this team. His basic premia to Dolan was that this team with this core was not going to win the Cup. He probably told Dolan this, told him he could make him some money by winning some PO games and hope for a miracle run. He told Dolan that the core must go and that he would start with Trouba. The fact that Laviolette has made all this noise regarding benching Kakko and then benching Kreider but then proceeds to go back to the same fucking lines and UNBELIEVABLY, the same fucking PP is what tells me that Drury is just gonna ride this out until he gets the deals that he wants. Give the players their security blanket line ates and minutes, hope they perk up and then…seemingly out of the blue…..BAM!…there is gonna be a blockbuster or two nobody saw coming. He’s probably getting SHIT offers because other GM’s think he’s desperate so he’s gonna try to let things settle down. If he has to wait until the trade deadline, he will because that’s when PO team GM’s loosen up…but make no mistake, something HUGE is gonna happen at some point.

FWIW I've zero issues with the pressboxing of Kreider last game. Question is will Lardiolette have the balls to do that to Zweep? If he does it how will Zweep respond?

True Story. I saw the Spin Doctors at the California State Fair in Sacramento years ago. And it was dripping with irony.

According to LAVI, Kreider will be playing tomorrow, so I guess it's safe to assume that there is no pending trade.

TD. That was a rumour I was citing. I'm against a vet for a vet deal. Rangers need picks and legit prospects/young NHLers.

Wild...Your stats ruin the narrative..Particularly the one pertaining to Z and Kreider...

TD... It does seem a little nutty and counterintuitive, but apparently there are teams that like him. I think it's most of note because we are supposed to be looking to get rid of Lindgren too. Who's going to play D for us by then?

RF4L - Aside from essentially being the same as Will BORGEN, plus or minus an inch or two, us Ranger fans...and specifically, this wall...would have a blast with Brandon CARLO. With this group? That guy would make Tom POTI look like a revered fan-favorite. They'd need to reinvent the whip for him, because we'd be wearing them out on a nightly basis.

Rhet0ric - I'll happily eat crow if the Rangers can parlay BORGEN into a second rounder...but that said...what are the chances of that? I would say slim and none...and slim just left town.

Wildcard - First, I don't really see anyone arguing that...what I have argued and will continue to argue is that LAVIOLETTE doesn't manage his bench effectively and puts his team at a disadvantage...regardless...if you're trying to say total TOI is BS, you're off your rocker. Total TOI is a HUGE part of the game. You play guys 20-plus minutes a night...23 and 24 in the case of TROCHECK...27 in the case of FOX...you're running those guys in the red. You're making them less effective. I don't give a toss if half that time is on the man-advantage. It's still far too much ice. And truth is, he DOESN'T give younger players shit. The only guy who gets big minutes who is under the age of 24 is LAFRENIERE. Truth is, PP1 is basically the same as the PK. TROCHECK, KREIDER, and Z are all on the kill inexplicably. So if you're gonna do that, then fucking start PP2 once and a while...especially since PP1 has been sucking balls really since the start of November. His bench management has been getting worse and worse. And conversely, the team has played worse and worse...oh and shall I get into the fact that the people WITH the highest ATOI also happen to be the guys looking absolutely ineffective out there? But TOI is just one component. There's a lot more at work with LAVIOLETTE and it boils down to being a one-trick pony. A dude who simply can't adjust...I feel like a broken record, because GALLANT was the same exact way. They do well for a while...but once teams find their weakness? They can't or refuse to adjust. And then it's all over.

"Canucks Could Outbid Rivals for Rangers D-Man in Trade Chase Chris Johnston of The Athletic believes" ....Will Borgen will attract trade interest and the Canucks might be willing to outbid others for him.... https://nhltradetalk.com/canucks-could-outbid-rivals-for-will-borgen-trade-rangers/

NYStranger - "There is also no player on the roster who stirs the drink. They all go out and play their own game and wait around for some one to do something".. Spot on...They do REACT sometimes but rarely initiate or cross the Choir Boy line..Exception being CUYLLE but he is not a shit stirrer either, just a guy that plays the game the right way and finishes every one of his numerous checks..thank god he does

Hospo I agree the team needs at least 3-4 guys who can contribute to the physical game and make the team much less easy/fun to play against. Like 2 on D and 2 forwards. Just too many figure skating marshmallows on the NYR. Skill can’t shine unless these types of players are there to create room. There is also no player on the roster who stirs the drink. They all go out and play their own game and wait around for some one to do something. And it is usually from the other team doing something to them. Coaching aside this team was no built properly to win a Cup. But the last month really has made it much worse. Drury fired yet?

Even strength ice time per game in order, among forwards, for the Rangers THIS year: 1-Panarin 2-Trocheck 3-Lafrenière 4-Zibanejad 5-Cuylle 6-Chytil 7-Kakko 8-Kreider 9-Smith 10-Berard 11-Brodzinski 12-Vesey 13-Carrick 14-Edstrom 15-Rempe. Let's stop pretending that Lavy doesn't use the "3rd: line or the kids...and only leans on vets. Don't come back to me with total ice time. Thats utter bullshit...not every player gets both PP and PK ice time. Not every player should. Even strength is what determines top 6 or top 9 or bottom 6 or whatever rankings you want to use. That has always been the way it's done. The fact is Lavy turns to younger guys more than vets. Also keep in mind that until November 13th Chytil was 4th. He played a lot less the first few games back from injury, but that makes sense, most guys play less at first. Dropped his avg ice time about 30-40 seconds. Lavy has leaned towards younger player who have played well since the start of the season.

Tdchi .. correct minus Goodrow (essential)and trouba (essential) I believe locker room wise.....same players having very poor years why???? We know why Drury!!! Also they were never good 5 on 5, PP and D is now awful it was never that great to begin with....it's simple really....we weren't that good to begin , good yes but a hit year for many players not a great team.

AJ GREER, Nick BASTIAN. Curtis LAZAR. These are all guys that have been free and available for years that the Rangers pass on. I'm not gonna cry about it much...but I would've like to have one of those guys...I mention players like that every off season and every off season DRURY passes on them...but I'll also say this: What would it matter? You have a coach who all but refuses to use his fourth line...even when they're the best one he has. And the third line...also sparingly used...is basically a skill line, save for CUYLLE.

Lardiolette gone back same lines other than BB swapped for KK. PP1 the same too. I guess he had an epiphany over Christmas! Lolol. 2 more losses looming.

Actually, Boston was an utter shitshow right up until MONTGOMERY was fired. Like a Yakov Smirnoff opening for the Spin Doctors at the Iowa State Fair shit-show. The acrimony around the team's handling of SWAYMAN coupled with the fact that their coach was also trying to stick them for a ton of money. Was more than just that. People were saying the same things about MARCHAND and PASTRNAK that Ranger fans are saying about KREIDER and Z. The team was a total fucking trainwreck. And y'all know how I feel about MONTGOMERY...they canned MONTY at 8-9-3. And since then? SACCO has gone 11-4-1 and Boston is seven points out of leading the Eastern Conference...Oh...and just to go a bit further? St. Louis came into the year with a lot of questions and not that great of a team. They went 9-12-1 before kicking Drew BANISTER to the curb. Under MONTY? 7-4-3 and the team is back at .500...And on that note? The EASIEST way to change a culture in an NHL organization? You guessed it: CHANGE THE FUCKING COACH. The Rangers' 'culture' problem starts with the guy behind the bench. There is NO trade...NO roster move...that will improve this team with him still there. I watched the Devils limp through last season with fuckface RUFF behind the bench and it was utterly mystifying their devotion to that clown...If the Rangers want to keep this guy until the spring? Well, Jimmy HAGENS is a hell of a center.

PJ - You and me both..I fucking hate Hughes and his entire fucking Royal famaily....Somebody has to maim that prick...That the Rangers are incapable of hurting him or, now, even standing up to the Devils is sad indeed..What Drury and Laviolette have done to this team and turninh them into a bunch of apathetic, emasculated losers (i.e., a team full of Kamenskys) is mind boggling

Watching the Devils humiliate the Rangers was bad enough. Apparently, the Devils put Jack Hughes being drafted on the big board while the fans were chanting Kappo Kakko….Hughes grinning ear to ear on the bench….Oh how I hope for the day a Ranger annihilates that little prick….

STEVIE - can't argue with any of that..my preferred order also..MF - yep, I want the physicality, skating, hitting, aggression, playing for teammates, the fighting is just a bonus..

Hospo the way it needs to go is drury first. But it will probably be players first. Changing lardass might salvage this season, but it’s not a long term solution. But I’ll take his hide first right now. He’s lost beyond recognition, even with that barber school haircut.

One problem that's evident to me is that the Rangers have added youth every year for the past 6 years, resulting in the roster being one of the youngest in the league approx 3-4 years ago, and our current so-called veteran players not filling the void in the traditional sense. The most recent void at the Vet Level was created by exporting Goodrow & Trouba and the remain vets not picking up the slack, starting with Kreider, then Zibanejad the two longest tenured players (certainly Kreider) IIRC. Trocheck is trying to fill some of those shoes, he can't do it alone. I imagine that there's the possibility that the Kum-ba-yah Bromo's ma step up the leadership void, but time is not on our side.

All that said, who goes first in the coming days? Laviolette? Kreider? Vesey? Lindgren? MIller?..I dread the insignificant return Drury will get on the last 4...Still, just as long as they keep ZFLOAT and Panaarina, the Rangers will be fine

CNP - with REMPs, who I love, even odds to take the Ryan HOLLWEG career path out of the NHL...the Rangers sure as hell need a guy on their roster like GREER or somebody similar.that has attitude and balls and physical aggrssion unlike a skating tampon like EDSTROM..or a munchkin "buzzsaw" like Berard ( I do like his Hustle though and should have a role)....This is just another hole in the orgnaniztion (like D and Center) that Drury has left unaddressed as he fiddles whie the Rangers burn..The incompetence of DipShit Drury the lst two years is staggering......It's bad enough Laviolette does not know how to manage ice time anhy more but when also given roster with major holes and infected plyers, well, up shit's creek without a paddle!

A guy I wanted in the off-season vice R.Smith just had a big article in the FL newspaper. AJ GREER, leads the team in hits, fights, plays the PK, has 21 high danger changes, and brings energy every night. He has 9 points, which isn't a ton but he is a CUYLLE light kind of player, would have been great for the 3rd/4th line. LAV fired yet?

TOR- As bad as things are in MSG, pull away the curtain from TOR and see A Mathews is really hurt bad and his play has declined major, while Marner is an UFA this summer.... NYRs got some bad mojo in the locker room that Drury needs to clear out and there is still a strong young core to build around... I am OK with givng up on this season, play for the draft pick, and trade away the vets... start fresh on July 1st.

https://nypost.com/2024/12/26/sports/rangers-lowlights-outweigh-the-highlights-this-season/

Win or lose at least Boston has a team culture. Dd drury has not even accomplished that. He’s pretty much done the opposite. He’s playing checkers while the good teams are playing chess. Picking lardass from the good ole boys recycle club is a part of his mo. And he’ll probably stick with him through thick and thin to cover his ass with Dolan. He’s blowing smoke up his ass and really hasn’t proven enough. They make the playoffs and then they shit the bed . And now his effect is headed towards not making the playoffs. Do you think that is easy to do ? And in the process he has built and will tear down the roster in the name of cap space and will repeat it to keep his job until Dolan realizes that drury has reached his level of incompetency. The Nyr and their fans deserve better. Instead they are 1940 and 1994 . And as usual it’s deja vu all over again.

Oh and one more quick story about how a really shitty coach can take a good team and make them terrible...remember how easy a win the Devils were last season? That team was awful. Now caveats: Dougie HAMILTON was out. True. And their goaltending was pretty terrible. Also true. And in the off-season, they added muscle in PESCE, COTTER, and DILLON...so they tweaked...but you want to know what the HUGE change was? Yeah, sheading the guy who is, bar none, the WORST coach in the NHL. I speak of Lindy RUFF. The fucking total boob who couldn't pull together the rudimentary elements of a system if they were given to him in a book titled A Complete Idiot's Guide for Systems. The Devils have the same EXACT core that they did when they embarrassed the Rangers and got GALLANT fired. Almost nothing has changed. The difference is their approach. RUFF let Andrew BRUNETTE draw up that approach...and he did what he did best, which is sit behind the bench and look stupid. When BRUNETTE left, he was exposed for the pure charlatan that he is...and that the poor sots in Buffalo are seeing now...the team that went 2-13 in December and one of the few to actually lose to the Rangers...the Rangers are now five points away from the Sabres in the standings...and seven points away from the HAGENS sweepstakes. We can argue all day about how bad ZIBANEJAD is and how the team needs to step up...but folks...it's glaring at this point...the Rangers have a problem behind the bench and it ain't gonna fix itself.

vcp1994 - Dude. This is essentially the same team that made the Conference Final. Full stop. They're weaker without TROUBA and KAKKO, for sure. But they still have all the bare essentials that got them to that spot...The problem now is that none of them are working together...why is the big question. You can say it's because all of their important players had career years last season, and they're showing who they really are now...not a great argument, but it's possible...you can say the team is moping because of whatever DRURY has been doing in the background. Again, not the best of arguments, but possible...or you can look at the guy behind the bench and come to the conclusion I've reached, which is that he's the wrong guy and whatever he did last season to make things work...well, that magic has worn off...can this team correct its trajectory? I'll say this, man: ANYTHING is possible with a goalie of SHESTERKIN'S ability between the pipes. Anything. You have a team with SOOOOOOOO much talent. I don't say this lightly either...but the combination of PANARIN, Z, LAFRENIERE, CHYTIL, TROCHECK, FOX, MILLER, and SCHNEIDER. That's serious talent, dude. And they're all at or around their prime...to stand back and say these guys just ain't good is really some next world silliness. They ARE that good. They are MASSIVELY underperforming. Not just one or two guys...BUT THE WHOLE TEAM. And not just by a little...I seriously think some folks here need to watch a few of the decisive victories from last season to remember what this team CAN and more importantly, DID do. These aren't guys that just turned 40 and are on the downside of their careers. These are ALL guys in their mid-20s and early 30s. KREIDER is the lone gray beard among them and the one guy where it is conceivably possible his career is beginning to slip. The rest? Seriously? Not a chance. The problem here is in execution. Their play is sloppy. Nothing is crisp. They are not doing all the little things a winning team does to win. The last game was a GREAT example. The 2023-24 Rangers would've stomped that Devils' team. But the 2024-25 team? They were LITERALLY colliding with each other and taking too many men penalties. These are guys who have been together for the better part of three seasons! Something is ailing them...holding them back...because on paper, they are a playoff team. There isn't a hockey writer out there who picked them to miss the playoffs this season...and if you use logic to troubleshoot the problem, you'll come to the same conclusion that I've reached, which is that it's the jackass behind the bench. LAVIOLETTE may have been a good coach once. He may STILL be a good coach. What he isn't is the right coach for this team. Full stop. Until he's gone, they will continue to lose. A lot.

KIS - Unless that player is Connor McDAVID...and even if he is...there is no one player that makes a team a winner. You can tell me ZIBANEJAD isn't having a good season. You're right there, for sure. You can say he's on the decline...can't really argue against that right now either...but to say he's never been any good and insinuate he's the reason this team isn't succeeding? That's flat-out bullshit. Z has been the best, most complete, and most consistent center this team has has since GRETZKY retired, bar none. Outside of this season, he has performed fantastic, both during the regular season and the post season. What did he do to advance the Rangers' chances last year? Well, let's start being an indispensable part of the PK and the PP...But hell. He was able to shut down Sasha BARKOV, which is no easy task. Just so happens the Rangers didn't have an answer for TKACHUK, REINHART and BENNETT after him...I get it. He doesn't fit your idea of what a franchise center should be, which sounds a bit like a healthy Eric LINDROS. But he's been fantastic his whole career in New York, with exception to this season, where, yes, he's has not looked good at all. But to sit here and say he's the reason the Rangers aren't winning games or the cup...well, that's completely divorced from reality...I'll go one step farther too...if the Rangers DO decide Z is done and they want him gone...they will not have even the slightest bit of trouble moving him. They might need to eat a little salary to get something decent back in return...but they'll find more than enough suitors.

Vcp. Fuck yeah. Especially for someone like Miller who should fetch someone like Cozens....

He doesnt go to the ohysicalparts of the ide. He wont finish a check. Never goes to the front of the met. Common man that team got there because of the trocheck line and because goodrow got hot. You can have your opinion but i said it 3 yrs ago and i stick with my opinion. They will not win the cup with him as the focal point

TD please tell me in what world zbad is maki g this team a winner. He is fuckjng weak minded. He isnt a physocal player at all. Whst did he do to help bring that team within one game of the final. Had he done anything he would have pushed them into the final. His 5 on 5 sucked. He was bring the PP down. That unit didn't score because of him. It scored because of panarin

Just a reminder: None of these are trade rumors, it's just Wyshynski musing about nonsense.

Drury the ultimate asshole although Brian burke seems to think he is doing what he has to do .......buy Drurys trades are god awful....

Kreider isn't done by a long shot he has another 4-6 years left ...just has a sore back and a broken heart from ZBAD.... The two sistas ....need to grow the fuck up . ...my job would not trade me they would say bbb byyyyeeeee have a nice life

Marchand is done too old OMG ....well if Drury is that stupid which appears to be the case

Random thought of the day - has any person alive every had a better run in life than Ron Low? 12 years as an NHL goalie and finishes 100-200 with a .860 save pct. Then for some ungodly reason, he earned 7 years in the league as a HC - never finished above .500. What the actual F? Like, who paid this guy for all this….shit, lol.

Tdchi rangers are NOT a playoff team dude we have no defense and no 5 v5 scoring and no PP c'mon are you kidding.... playoff team naaaahhhh

I just watched the Prime Network game 7 series, the one of 94 Rangers .they are all good episodes . This Ranger team should be shown the video of that contest every game day . Like Mike Keenan said , the game was ‘vicious’ . That team was tough , as they all were back then , not like these pussies we have on this team now

JFC31 - Hate to say it, but that's pretty standard for teams. Look, when you're winning and having fun? It's easy to have moments like these...or the 'Shesty release us' from REAVES...but start to lose? And those moments begin looking real foolish...I remember a World Juniors from four or five years ago, when Max COMTOIS was captain of the Canadian team. He started games like that...got his team jacked...and then they got their asses spanked. I think that was one of the few tourneys where the Canadians didn't make the medal round...Point is, winning is the rising tide that floats all ships. You get things like the Broadway hat or the center ice salute FROM winning. You don't create that spark while you're losing. There ain't nothing this Rangers team can import to change what's going on right now unless that player is someone who helps turn the season around...but that's the rub...the Rangers are NOT a bad team. Even sans KAKKO and TROUBA, they are still a playoff team. What is ailing them is NOT their talent. It's their execution. Maybe they can add someone to change it...but more likely, whatever roster moves they make now will be rearranging the deck chairs of the Titanic. This team is broken and fucked. The ONLY move that may change it is sacking the coach. And even that is not 100 percent.

I'm not trying to kill the messenger...but in what possible world does MARCHAND-for-KREIDER and MILLER-for-BOESER make any sense? Answer: They don't...in the first instance, I mentioned the Bruins are 10-4-1 since relieving their coach. Why would they trade their captain, who has been, basically, a point-per-game player for a winger who is in the worst slump of his career? And on BOESER...while I'm sure they'd love to land a D man like MILLER, that would entail trading away dude who scored 40 goals last season and a very important part of their lineup at a time when the team just got back it's top goaltender...But let's ignore all of this noise for a sec...Take a quick pull through DRURY's trade history and you'll notice something pretty stark: These AIN'T the type of trades he goes for. He seems to have two types: deadline deals where he's moving dead weight or picks for expiring contracts and all the others, which he trades away the better player for picks and...well...throw-in expiring contracts...HOWDEN, BUCH, GEORGIEV, TROUBA and KAKKO all followed this model. Could throw KRAVTSOV in there too. Even REAVES. So KREIDER to the Bruins? What you're probably looking at is something like a third, a fourth and Jordan OESTERLE...K'Andre to the Canucks? A second and Danton HEINEN. Drury ain't getting shit back in terms of usefulness. He's made two trades this season and both have made the team significantly weaker.

When does the roster freeze end tomorrow? Need to prepare myself for another fleecing...

Zbad might become zhard if Marchand licks him . I just wish drury would not come back after his Christmas break and just stay home with his family.

Greg Wyshynski @wyshynski was pimping out that Kreider trade rumor like two weeks ago and he asked "who says no?" Pretty much every NYR fan said "NO." Brad Marchand is also very likely to retire after the season.

Flyers BTW have some impression kids in this tourney. They find a goalie and in a few years they're gonna be a top metro team.

I hate it when there are minimal Ranger prospects in the WJC which is the case this year thanks to asshole Dreary flitting away picks for zippo.

ESPN: “IIHF World Junior Championship in Ottawa will be a seeding ground for many trades. It is easier there for GMs to fly in, watch players and meet their teams and colleagues than it would be if the tournament was held overseas. It's an opportunity for many to get together and discuss things, get viewings on players of interest and formulate a plan. For now, we'll have to wait for the roster freeze to end and all the excitement to begin.”

ESPN suggesting two trades involving the Rangers…suggesting, not predicting. These are not rumors…Kreider to Boston for Marchand, Miller to Vancouver for Boeser

THIS is a big part of what is missing from the NY Rangers! It’s as if they have lost their “innocence” and they’re just not having fun playing hockey any more! They need to find a way to bring back a fun vibe to their locker room that can translate to relaxing & enjoying the game once again! Remember “SHESTY RELEASE US!” Remember seeing video of Lafrenière shaking his ass to the locker room music? Remember how much fun they had at the outdoor game vs. the Islanders? Even Laviolette was psyched up for that! All they have now is fear, angst, uncertainty, lack of confidence…playing hockey just a CHORE right now and they have to get back to what these kids are showing in this video https://x.com/43wrlds/status/1872276944068456836?s=61&t=Q_IeRBnrZ-SVbj42tngklQ

Drury gets future considerations for kreider lolololol..worse GM second to sather

So, what does Dickweed Drury get for Kreider tomorrow..? A 2nd and a 5th and a conditional 6th?

OK, I’m all on board for baggin’ for HAGENS. Keep LAVIOLETTE! More minutes for the top six! RUHWEDEL on the first pair!! Let’s go!! We can do this! Only 40 more games to lose!!

Re: EMERY, I’ve seen him listed and I know he was among the finalists. He ain’t in this game though, that’s for sure. He might be an alternate or something.

Limbo - I was actually thinking about Dave CARLE. I would do that. He’s a good coach and has done great work with Denver. But I kinda doubt the Rangers will ever go that route again. Sadly, I think the guy who ultimately replaces LAVIOLETTE will be another retread like QUENVILLE.

Hate, hate, HATE the fact that Cole EISERMAN is Islander property. If the Rangers had a third rounder, it would’ve been a good move to package that and the 30th for the 20th. Oh well.

TD - speaking of TEAM USA, what are the thoughts of their HC? Was with MONTY and won a NC. Then took over and has won 2 more in five years. He is pretty young, and never played in the league (heart issue forced him to retire). They are obviously different people, but MONTY made the hop from Denver to the NHL. Do you know anything about him? Would love to get an up and comer and not the goddamn old retread fucktards that we week to always get. It would be a shame if the QUINN experience ruined that option…

TD - lol on HAGENS. TBH - the most Rangery thing ever, other than getting the kid and he flops, we have the worst year since the draft was instituted then lose the lottery and get bumped to 5 when there is a clear top 4…

U.S. already tuning up Germany 10 minutes into the WJCs. PERREAULT with a snipe. And future Ranger first overall pick James HAGENS with a goal. Man, I wish we could get Ryan LEONARD.

Mike Rupp gives a pretty good analysis from a player’s point of view about how players are effected by a bad atmosphere… https://x.com/rupper17/status/1869131242513600603?s=61&t=Q_IeRBnrZ-SVbj42tngklQ

JFC….It says it is impacting the entire team including the younger players…He is hardly the only one slumping but wouldn’t know that reading the article or this board with some exceptions…

mf…I believe Z will require motivation to be moved…I would ask for that list and if not provided he sits….Don’t care who on the team gets upset…Play hardball….Not accepting that level of play for the money you are making….Can he be sent down?…If so do it if need be….

Z'bad submit a small list of trade destinations he'd accept to be moved to yet? NO, he's not obligated to, but if the GM hasn't asked, he won't get an answer. Plan B, send Z'bad to a sports psychologist and start creating a medical file on him so we can place him on the LTIR List until 2030, just like Vegas did, albeit shorter term, to circumvent the salary cap. This is one way to write the next chapter of Z'bad's hockey career history. Foget about buying him out, it's too punitive, and why would we reward this guy with the opportunity to then sign elsewhere and get paid additional Million$$ of dollars? As far as eating salary in a trade to unload him, I'd go $1.5 million per remaining 'max' but prefer to package him with a Kreider or Lindgren and ear 50% of one of those contracts, take the bigger hit this season and or next, and not carry it out an longer.

Well now I know who to blame for Laff’s slump…One goal in 16 games and a minus 15 on the season….It is Zbad’s bad influence…Yet Cuylle and Berard bust it on every shift…What a joke…Z and Kreider deserve all the criticism they are getting…So do Laff and Fox and many others…Please send me some Kreider quotes bitching about his ice time or being scratched..I didn’t see them…I did see Kakko say other teammates deserved it more than he did…Imagine if Kreider said that!….

JFC31 - SELL! Of course at this point, you probably will get less for them than the Rangers got for KAKKO...But if the current state of the team carries into April? That'll be a stomping. I was/am supposed to go to the game against the Jackets on the 18th. College reunion-ish-type thing. I'm seriously thinking about telling the guys we should sell those tickets and just get turned/tuned up at a bar. Even with NYC prices, the cost of admission would buy a lot of beer and wings!

Great example of how coaching can change the tide? And I'm surprised it isn't mentioned more...The goddamn 2018-19 St. Louis Blues. This was a team with everything. Two fantastic dynamic centers in O'REILLY and SCHENN. Sniper in TARASENKO. Rock on D in PIETERANGLEO. Deep lineup with the ability to roll four lines. They were TERRIBLE to start the season. Just getting dominated by teams. And then BERUBE took over...and after some adjustments, the team caught ABSOLUTE FIRE, winning 11 in a row at one point. And this was a team that literally changed nothing except the coach. Sadly for the Rangers, DRURY is more committed to this coach than he is winning, so he's doing what no GM should do, which is trying to shake things up with trades.

JFC31 - Again, I think you're putting WAAAAAAAAAY too much emphasis on the players and what THEY'RE doing. I don't believe for a split second that whatever message DRURY put out to other GMs had anything to do with anything. The wheels were already off the bus when THAT report surfaced. They got dick-stomped by the fucking Sabres. THAT was the beginning of the end, really. And that was two weeks before that stupid report surfaced. And even if you're to believe the letter WAS part of the problem...you know who wasn't mentioned?! Yeah. Everyone's favorite punching bag: ZIBANEJAD. Oh, and as for the other guy still on the team? KREIDER? Larry the Dotard traded him three years ago in a stupid column...And we're to believe a guy with a limited NTC is gonna grouse about that?! C'mon. Ain't nobody spouting off in the lock room. What IS happening, is that these guys are following their pied piper and he's leading them off the ledge. They all know it too. Again, the reason even the guys who were looking good at the beginning of the season are looking bad is because their whole approach is fucked. Teams have solved LAVIOLETTE's system. Literally everyone in the league knows they can do a hard forecheck on the Rangers and they'll win nine out of 10 times. The only time they won't is when SHESTERKIN stands on his head...it's because LAVIOLETTE simply has no answers. He's trying moves of desperation now, and everyone on the team knows it...like swapping JONES out for RUHWEDEL. What fucking coach in their right mind does that?! Pure madness. And then does it AND puts two RHS defensemen on a line together...Also, I'll say this: If you think a vet like Z is spreading bad attitude in the locker room...then you're also believing that LAVIOLETTE and, by extension, DRURY, are too stupid to realize this...Let me tell you...if you think a coach doesn't know what is being said behind his back or in close quarters...then you're basically saying that guy is an idiot...again, the Rangers are WAAAAAAAAY too talented to have the record they do. This is a the team that had a RECORD-BREAKING season six months ago...And we're to believe that they just woke up one day and quit because they were butt hurt about GOODROW or TROUBA or a letter or whatever? C'mon. When you have a good team on paper playing WORSE than the worst team in the league(see: Chicago)...the problem isn't likely the players.

Hospo - yeah, that’s what my original conclusion to my diatribe was going to be but I lost my way….YES, I think the only thing to be done at this point is to turn the page and it’s gonna be more ugliness…just as Drury made a mistake by letting Trouba into that locker room after trying to FORCE him out (WTF did he think was gonna happen?), he can’t make the same mistake with Kreider after Laviolette scratched him. He did it with Kakko and I think he’s got no choice now but to do it with Kreider & Zibanejad. I think Kreider will be gone on Saturday,

JFC - Too funny, but such a great present from your wife! Hopefully by then you will have some optimisim about the future!

JFC - Valid points but, to me, they are all connected and inseparable..The Three heads must be chopped off...DRURY created the virus/disease with his incompetence, clueless handling nd mangement, Laviolette mutated it with his rooster and line management, and the infected vets spread it like wildfire form one vet to another and eventually to every single youngster, all of which who's play has devolved and deteriorted

So, opening up presents yesterday and I open a small box from my wife…intake out a piece of paper that says, “2 tickets, Rangers at Florida Panthers” April 14, 7 PM” and she says, “sorry, I didn’t know they would stink! Maybe they’ll get better by then!” LOL! Pretty much sums it up, doesn’t it? Ugh!

KIS - The ZIBANEJAD hate in this group is just as laughable as it is misdirected. Never win with this guy?!? FFS, he brought them within a game of going to the fucking cup final six months ago. Like I seriously don't know what y'all are drinking to think he's the root of all the Rangers' problems. I mean, seriously. Have you been watching Adam FOX? Vince TROCHECK looks like he's trying...but the dude has been horrible. Same with PANARIN. He makes some nifty moves, but have you seen his stats over the past two months?! And KREIDER. FFS. You're gonna sit here and bag on Z without even mentioning THAT dude?! And LAFRENIERE? Like seriously. How does this all stem from friggin' Z. Totally mystifying conclusion. You've been reading too much of andrei's screed.

Hospo/td/KIS - a GM can produce a negative reaction by how he conducts his business but the toxicity that seems to have poisoned the team is on the players…mainly the vets…and more specifically Trouba, Kreider & Zibanejad. Yes, I think the whole team has been EFFECTED by not necessarily by toxicity Audi g them to “quit.” Yes, I’m sure it’s demoralizing as hell to go through this but I think it’s more a case of DOMINOES falling…stating with the 3 vet dominoes I mentioned. Once thise 3 checked out, there was a DROP IN TALENT on the ice that has destroyed their ability to compete. Add to that the fact that Miller has been out and I also don’t think Bread is 100% either. Whatever the % of culpability is (vets posting vs players quitting on Drury vs drop,in talent from injuries vs drop in talent from vet pouting) is impossible to know but CUMULATIVELY they have led to this disaster. This reminds me of the teacher’s lounges I’ve been in in my career. Those places were where disgruntled, VETERAN teachers would spew their hatred of the administration…principal, superintendent, department chairman, etc. and it had an effect on everyone who was exposed to it. They’d say things like, “they wanna eliminate being able bank SICK DAYS towards retirement? Fine! Then we should all take every fucking sick day that we’re entitled to whether we’re sick or not! They want us to act like security guards by being out in the halls after the bell rings? Then we should all take our time taking attendance before each class to make up for being forced to do things we don’t get paid to do!” And what’s the result? The students end up losing because the teachers are disgruntled…even the young teachers who never even had the old benefits that the veterans lost. It creates a MALAISE on the whole staff, even the young enthusiastic ones who are wondering “what the hell have I gotten myself into?” Regarding the Rangers, if Trouba & Kreider GROUSED in the locker room about their names being made public…if they said out loud, “I guessit’s a right of passage to be fired by MSG” and shit like that, it can have a spirit-dampening effect on everyone! Ya gotta think Zibanejad, Mr. Sensitive, Mr. Empath, has obviously been effected because his brother from another mother is unhappy. And why has Will Cuylle not looked great lately either? Why have his stats gone down? is it because he got a big, fat contract…which is the reason some are saying as the reason that Lafrenière is not producing? Or isn’t his all about CUMULATIVE ingredients…a cascade of negativity? If Kreider & Zibanejad aren’t producing on the ice, then the opposition doesn’t have to KEY on them…that allows them to load up against the Trochek Line, reducing their ability to produce. If Zibanejad is playing poorly defensively, it’s obvious what the effect of that is.so, thisnis as much about straight-up HOCKEY 101 as it is about being disgruntled. But, when you have a loss of depended-upon veteran talent combined with their spewing toxicity, that lead to LOSING, which then leads to LOSS OF CONFIDENCE team wide, which leads to every player playing worse, which then leads to players worrying “who gets traded next? What the hell am I doing here?” and the cycle sound on and on like an ever-strengthening hurricane. I don’t know that a coach’s X’s & O’s have much to do with this…this is an EMOTIONAL breakdown caused by all the ingredients I’ve mentioned.

Detroit has three more losses than the Rangers. So maybe there's hope...Of course, buyer beware...I wouldn't be so happy about the Rangers canning LAVIOLETTE and turning around and hiring a hack like Todd McLELLAN.

TD i understand whst you are saying but one he is now scratching and giving less time to those players. 2 the you ger are showing they can handle the extra onus placed on them. 3 they still should want to win. 4 this group has done this to other coaches and its wrong. When is it their responsibility. Last this team is screwed. Zbad is tied to them until 2030. If he is thatoffened disgusted with the organization ask for a trade. I said 3 yrs ago they would never win with him in the fold and the focal point. As we can see ive beem roght . He is a jackass.

Another GREAT example of bad coaching? Not sure if anyone has noticed by the most successful like the Rangers have iced? FOURTH LINE. Why? Because they dump and chase...do the other lines do this? NOPE. Not at all. Not even for a shift. That means one of two things...either they're not being told to do that or they're not listening...this is EASILY correctable. Tell them to do it. And if they don't do it? Cut their ice. Simple as that. If they still don't do it? Start scratching...same thing with defense...instead of this crazy zone D that they're playing...play man-on-man. Simplify. Give an assignment. Play that guy. You lose that guy? And he scores or has a scoring chance? Grab some wood. Again. These are things a fucking coach NORMALLY does. LAVIOLETTE is not doing them. Even worse, he's basically arbitrarily scratching guys...The KAKKO scratch was 35 flavors of ridiculous. There were a dozen other guys who were more deserving. Or the JONES scratch for RUHWEDEL. Like this is shit no sane coach would do. But LAVIOLETTE knows he's fucked and is trying to do anything that will jazz up his guys. Problem, though, with arbitrarily scratching guys is you have the rest of the team wondering what the fuck those guys did to earn the pressbox and they're coming to the same conclusion I am, which that this guy literally has no clue and is doing things arbitrarily in an attempt to get a reaction.

KIS - Like I keep saying, y'all are getting upset about the car crashing into the tree and not looking at who is driving it. Sure, there's a chance the tires are a little bald and the alignment is off...but this whole decline is operator error. It's a coach who had ONE game plan when he got here. And while it worked at first, it's not working now and he's got ZERO answers to turn it around...the PP alone is a great example of it all...like that first unit has been cold as cold can be...and yet the ONLY way he changes things up with it is when he scratches KREIDER or PANARIN is injured. He just rolls the same stupid line...same stupid formation. No idea how to adjust it at all. Just plain stupidity.

TDCHI - KAKKAO showed the start of what he will become with the Kid line that was also mangled by Laviolette even before he once gain kicked Kakkao to the Curb..As for BORGEN, HATED the quisition but was impressed his first game...After, THBFFFTTT!!! Maybe he already has caught Rangeritis??

JFC. Good article on Zbad but the author didn't do his full research. Zbad's 5 on 5 issues started last Xmas meaning his decline isn't as abrupt as the article is stating.

Newfie_Ranger - More about who his linemates are and what his role is with the Kraken. He is being given the shot three coaches in New York refused to give him.

PJ - we'll see, but man, I watched BORGEN get beaten like a gong on two of the Devils goals. Like bad. The first one, he just backed up and swung his stick at the guy...compared to TROUBA, who he essentially replaced...he is a BIG step down. Necessary physicality? Well great. We gave away that physicality. He is a good sixth/seventh defender. On a cup team, he wouldn't see the ice.

BTW, I came on to post that Yzerman said enough and The Wings have fired Uncle Fester..We need somebody bove DRURY to feel the same...That said, I still expect a firing and/or a Don Maloney like trade (krieder/Lindgren/MIller because ZBAAD is untradeable)) before the Weekend

wildcard - Not sure if it was reported or not but KAKKO asked for a trade after he was scratched...Not saying he should've dogged it in his last game, but he knew he was leaving the team within the week...the point on him is that the Kraken, in his first week, gave him a prominent role on the team. The Rangers...in SIX SEASONS...never did that. Or at least they never committed to it. I can't remember the last time they played him on the top two lines. I seem to recall GALLANT did it one or twice...but never for more than a game, if that. The Rangers squandered KAKKO bad. It started with QUINN. It continued with GALLANT. And then LAVIOLETTE was the icing on the cake...regardless of whether you agree or not, the Rangers are a MUCH weaker team without him, and literally the only way they win this trade is if they land a superstar with the third or sixth rounder. They got taken...BADLY on that deal...and all because they couldn't find role for a very talented player...I mean, FFS. He's better than goddamn Reilly SMITH who fucking got a first line slot just by virtue of the Rangers trading away a second AND sixth rounder for him. Sugar coat it however you want, but the Rangers got fucked hard on that deal. Real hard. That could go down as one of the worst trades in Ranger history. Even if KAKKO ends up being a third line grinder, they literally gave him away. But hey. After the KRAVTSOV fiasco, we should be used to it by now.

KIS - The players are indeed to blame for not being able to summon up the whatever to rise above...but that so many players can't after being one of the closest and hard working teams last year shows just how bad and toxic the situation created by the GM and coach has become and how fast it turned to shit....The tHree Hraded monter of GM/Coach/Vets must go.......Although i hope to be wrong!!!

Puckyou - I ain't gonna absolve players of their role in this, because obviously, they play a big role. But again, the problem is the guy behind the bench is setting them up to fail in just about everything he does. So you as a player...you have two choices...you either keep doing what he says until he gets fired or you tell him to fuck off, do your own thing, and risk getting your ice cut or cut period...My guess is that there is a combination of both going on right now, which is why these guys look so listless and disjointed. A good coach can make an average team great. Likewise, a bad coach can take a good team and make them look very bad. I get why you're fired up about the players...and you should be...but there's simply too much working against them to do anything but lose at this point. Like I keep saying: LAVIOLETTE came in with a good game plan and it worked. Until it didn't. The Panthers solved the Rangers, and then other teams used that game plan to topple them. He needed to adjust two months ago and didn't. Now he's TRYING to adjust, but it's too little, too late. I can't say if the Rangers will rebound with a new coach...but I can tell you one thing FOR SURE: They will NOT rebound with this one. Not a fucking chance. He dug this hole and there's no getting out of it with LAVIOLETTE behind the bench. The question now is whether they fire him now and POSSIBLY salvage the season, or limp by, miss the playoffs and fire him in the spring.

Yiu mean to tell me, trying to get your way trumps pride? How can you as an athlete not be embarrassed to continually lose. How does a kid like Laffy, who started the season strong look like shit. Where sre his leadership traits. How does a you g player like fox who was a Norris trophy winner forget how to play hockey. O get zbad and kreoder pouting they are old players Ask out. Go some place else. Time moves on and nobody beats father time. Other players will take your place and become the go to guy. The player i feel bad for is Quick. He likes it here and may get traded at the deadline. Smh. Im so disgusted in this Ranger team

JFC - Many of us did..! And he was always hard to watch for me and his style even when going well...Now it just poison's everything...Hell, there is a teamwide infection a poison on the heart that emanates from the GM, the coach and vet plyaers like ZBAD...Oh well, enough bad things for today..

Nailed it!” The Fall of Mika Zibanejad.” https://thehockeywriters.com/the-fall-of-mika-zibanejad-a-stars-decline-on-broadway/

“We’re not where we want to be mentally, we’re not where we want to be record-wise, we’re not where we want to be anywhere,” Laviolette said. “It’s not what we’re here for. We’re here to win hockey games, and we’re not doing that right now.”….. pure genius… forget the playoffs and the cup if he’s not fired.

I've no problem shopping any of them but the issue is Dreary's pathetic track record of bring fleeced in trades.

Kreider, Miller and Lindgren are the soup dujour right now. The rumors about K'Andre are that the NYR's have no interest in meeting the asking price his agent says he's looking for. Miller is not having a good season and I can't blame them. The NYR's reportedly have no interest in re-signing Lindgren to another deal.... ALSO: The Rangers have allegedly, been asking about Mason McTavish(with most of the rest of the League, I'm sure).

MerryXMAS to everyone here on the Wall,now NewYears, In regards to our Rangers, well thats another story all together..LOL

Happy holidays to all wallsters. Chill out for a while with a beverage of your choice. This will get worse before it (maybe) gets better. Great Knick game today. Maybe Leon Rose can take over for Drury. The Knicks have player who leave it all on the court. Losing today could have ruined their Christmas so they didn't let it happen.

Anyone willing to admit to having said this? https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10170495381655710&set=gm.4051324795113494&idorvanity=1693892820856715

Coach Peter Laviolette’s honest response was equally damning. “I agree with that,” he said. “The purpose in which we play the game has got to be better.” ….. hopefully he’s gone by January 2,2025. …. After that if it doesn’t solve the problems, then Dolan should fire DD drury before he does more damage.

“We interrupt this meltdown to bring you four days without a desultory Rangers loss. Yes, true, the NHL is closed for the holidays, which only serves to illustrate how far and how quickly the Rangers have fallen. A Stanley Cup contender about a month ago, the Blueshirts have descended into being a punchline like the Giants and Jets (they can’t lose Sunday, they’re on a bye week!). “

Classic- wall of fame material. https://x.com/morningskateked/status/1871932247986864324?s=61&t=PiMEupel_aFEYDXrxYVEEQ

Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to all Wall Bangers near and far!!!! ..............My son got me a Will CUYLLE Aay Jersey because he feels guilty about turning my Grand SON into a Capitals fan!!.He better not get traded!!!.As for the Rangers, less said the better right now..until the weekend!!!!!

Merry Christmas and Happy Hanukkah to all…Looking forward to better days for our Rangers…Certainly can’t get worse…..

Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to all my Wall Family. You all make fandom of this effed up franchise all the more tolerable and entertaining. it has been 20 years now for me on this Wall and I know many of you are much more than that. My wish beyond the obvious changes that have to be made to the Rangers roster and front office is that this wall last for at least another 20-30 years!

Merry Christmas all. May the season bring a desperately needed coaching change!!!

Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to all!! Wishing you all the very best and I’m asking Santa for the #1 pick, a re-boot, and most of all a new GM in 2025. All the best everyone!

Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah to all Wallsters! I remember a lot of Christmas/December slumps, but this one is pretty brutal. At least we should see some changes soon.

Merry Christmas, Wallsters! Let’s hope Santa leaves every Rangers player a new attitude in their stockings tonight!

Happy holidays to everyone. May we have something to root after the trade deadline. May Drury get fired soon. May Dolan get hemorrhoids from watching this team.

Wishing all that pass through here a very Merry Christmas & Happy Hanukkah. May the Traderator shine brightly on our Blue shirts. :-)

Team is against Drury not the coach.drury screwed the pooch with Goodrow and trouba.....if they keep Drury...they will continue to lose can't make them play hard..

andrei: The one major thing that may help his is currently a lack of expectations on the team and there is basically zero spotlight compared to NYC for sports in general and especially NHL. So perhaps the pressure being way off will allow him to be a bit less inconsistent, or at least maybe the down stretches won’t be so heavy for him and he will be able to pull himself out more quickly. But if he doesn’t figure out how to bring some energy and emotion to the ice he will always suffer when the game needs him.

tdchi..it's a "goal' man, he didn't just win the Rocket Richard trophy.......LOL

TD…Not as down on Borgen as you are…He actually is more physical than I thought he would be….But the Finn is a joke and neither add any nastiness…Kudos to Carrick and Trocheck but as a team we are lacking the ability to go back hard on a team…I mean go after Fox and we then plaster Hughes…

You can make changes in players of course but ultimately the coach is often not the issue but it’s easiest to make them pay the price. From my perspective given that the team isn’t and won’t compete I think you have to get rid of the coach and give someone else a shot to get the ship pointed in the right way. I think Laviolette is a dead man walking. I’m hoping that the Rangers can get JT Miller back and despite his immaturity back in the day and maybe still has the issue but I think JT is a much bigger part of the solution than the problem.

Wild, will add this. Problem with Kappo was and still is, it is his consistency. Sure Kappo showed flashes in NY, but they were short stretches, ability to stay engaged and be productive for long stretches was always his issue. Sure, he looked good for a first few games in Seattle. Let's see if he can do it for the remaining 40+ games. My bet, he is going to disappear once again and watch for him to start playing on different lines, till he is scratched, once again. Maybe not, maybe he learned. But my money is on the opposite.

This guy is awesome!! Stat Boy Steven: "In the last month, #NYR rank: 31st in points, 25th in PP%, 16th in PK%, 31st in SA/GP, 26th in games where they score first. Mika Zibanejad ranks: 206th in points, 707th in plus-minus, 374th in 5v5 P/60 (1.05)". Nothing really to add here..

td: the goal was a off the cuff snap shot when the puck ended up in front of him on a faceoff and the shot went through the legs of a turning lineman, he shot the puck, something he doesn’t do often. Already here in Seattle people are saying “if Kakko shot more he would get a lot more goals” based on his few games here. He scored 18 with the rangers once. My end point with him was his last game here. During that game I decided I wanted him traded. He opened his mouth to the press about being so upset about being scratched…then hit the ice, and simply melted into the background and ran through the motions. Showed no life or energy. What does Vesey do after being a scratch? Comes out and scores…but more than that, he made himself visible. Played harder than his norm. Jones the same, picks his play up after he sits a game. Smith did that this year. Got sat, came out playing his best hockey of the year. Again, Kakko gets sat, comes back in and mopes around in the first game back. Enough already. Enough. Enough blaming everyone but him. He got chances. I supported keeping him because he was a solid all around player. But damn, Berard has now replaced him on the right side and he is bringing more to the ice every game that Kakko did…I am surprised Kakko got the return he did at this point…would I have liked more…yep…but the nhl saw what I saw. A young player upset he was scratched again, but not responding to that with effort. Oh. And Kakko did play with top line players in NY. And don’t give the “not for long” excuse. He has been in Seattle 3 games and you used him playing with top liners as something to make a point. He played with Zib and Kreider during those guys beat NHL seasons. He played with Bread during one of his best NHL seasons. What else does the staff need to do for him? At some point it’s on the player. I was beginning to feel that way about Kakko, but still thought he was a guy to keep, u til I saw him lay an egg the first game after a scratch that he was vocally upset about and blamed and pointed fingers at others instead of himself. By the way. Let’s add to this, Mika doesn’t rip himself and this wall loses it mind…Kakko literally says he is t the worst…and somehow he is fine. He said others were more deserving of a scratch…could you imagine Kreider saying that the next practice? I’m sure this wall will support him like they did Kakko.

TD, I remember those teams and referred to them and the lean 7 years without playoffs prior to the cap. However, never saw a mutiny of leadership, a deliberate tanking from a bunch of babies like this team. I am referring to Mika, Kreider in particular here, Fox and Trochek to a lesser degree, that have steered this team into a tree. This group of mean girls who didn’t like the memo that leaked out about NYR open for business. Suck it up, you are supposed to be pros, do your job and it takes care of itself. Suddenly the entitlement group (PP1) decides to play perimeter, not Backcheck, not check, not try. So what do the young kids learn from these “leaders”? This isn’t a team with a Lundqvist calling guys out, demanding effort. You can change the coach for the 4th time, but these guys showed how weak minded they are. There is no fix for quitters. They should have come back this year looking for 6 more playoff wins, instead they took their puck and went home.

Drury's trades remind me of OTBG'S draft picks. Drury needs to be restricted from making trades without getting strict approval. I would not have traded KaKKo, just like many others here would not have..... There's no turning back now, time to bring it down to the studs and reinforce the foundation... Current Starters OUT: ZBad, Kreider, Smith, Lindgren... Possible Starters OUT: Miller, Chytil... Lower Ranks OUT: JONES.... Keepers to rebuild upon: Igor, Panarin, Trocheck, Laffy, Cuylle, Carrick, Fox, Schneider, Mancini, "they should have kept KAKKO!!!" .... Sit Zbad down and qualify whether he will accept to be traded "ANYWHERE" ... any contingencies on where and how he'd accept? Boston? Buffalo? Vancouver? Colorado? Seattle? Dallas? Anywhere! Get him the phck out of here, and until you do, let him watch from the stands, he's getting paid $23,287.67 everyday under contract 365 days per year. Don't like the occupation, you should have checked with OSHA first.

Pj: I agree with the size of Edstrom you would think he would run some devils , but no, no hitting, no emotion. He was playing like he had no equipment on. I’ll take Rempe over him.

Speaking of which, KAKKO had his first goal last night. Go figure: Put a talented player on first line with the franchise center and a good winger and he produces. Strange...so strange how that works.

PJ - BUT..BUT..BUT...I was told Will BORGEN is tough...Was this not true?!! Thought all the teams in the league were trying to get him...don't tell me this was hyperbole.

Puckyou - While there IS an onus on the players, I just want to point out a nuance here that I think is important. My following the Rangers doesn't date back as far as you, but I remember some pretty shitty times. The teams they surrounded GRETZKY with for starters, and leading up to the grand finale of that era: The last team ME$$ier captained, which looked very good on paper, but was just the saddest sack of dogshit I ever saw. THEY were miles worse than these guys. MILES. And there's an important distinction: Those guys started off shitty and got shittier. They were a group of goddamn mercenaries...including their captain...who cared only about the dollars: HOLIK, Anson CARTER, Bobo MIRONOV, MALAKHOV the skier, BARNABY, KOVALEV, RUCINSKY, SIMON and DeVRIES...and of course, LINDROS...They were so lifeless that even JAGR...a guy dogged for years as a money-chasing mercenary...looked like he was flying compared to the rest. Those guys never accomplished SHIT together, yet acted like gods...The icing on the cake that year was when fuckface ME$$ier essentially pulled himself from the last few games and sent all of his teammates an autographed stick as a 'goodbye.' I almost stopped following this team after that season...These guys? This core has gone deep TWICE. They have gotten at least to the finish line. And they started out the year looking good. What you have now is a fucking idiot behind the bench who is directing traffic in a way that no one on the ice knows what they're doing. Great example was the two too-many-men penalties last night. But let's go a step farther. The constant collisions I see out there...all indicative of a team that has no idea which end is up. Whatever system he's trying to employ is confusing the shit out of players and it shows. You may be interpreting it as them not caring...and I'm not gonna sit here and say they don't need to dig deeper. But look: If you steer your car into a tree, you can't get pissed off at it when it crashes.

Getting rid of Trouba and Kakko was bad enough but couldn’t we get someone with a little bit of an edge back for them?….How are we now having the Devils run is in a game…I mean we have a guy the size of Edstrom out there avoiding confrontation in a scrum….

rf4l, there is nothing left to fix or salvage. That ship had sailed. Playoffs? Gone. Math to make the playoffs is now working against them and % to make it, is getting smaller with each loss. They are now at about 20% to make the playoffs. Standing means very little. You can look it up and see that Rangers are just few points away, but it is a mirage. Simple math. You need about 96-98 points to make it as a wild card. Tampa maid it with 98 points. Craps made it with 91, but to be safe, you need at least 94 points. That means that Rangers need to get between 61 to 65 points in 48 games. That meant they need to go at least 30 wins and say 2-3 OT losses in 48 games. That is about winning about .700% , another words, Rangers need to go 7-3 each 10 games rest of the way. That's a very, very tall order even when you are a winning team. With each loss, that % goes down. Say They loose next two games in Florida. That means in order for the Rangers to make the playoffs, they will need to go 30 wins and 2 OT losses in 46 games. That is about winning .750% or 8-2 rest of the way. That's a Presidents trophy pace. If I were to guess, this is how NYR Management viewed it as well and this is why they have not fired Lavi yet. Just no point. Get a temp coach only to clean the coaching staff in April?

Even with the bad teams, you could rout for them as underdogs or enjoy a favorite player or two. Tough to rout for these guys!!!

Puck: Well said. Yeah, I go back to all those days with you and have never been as embarrassed to be a fan.

Been a fan since I was 6 and went to my first game at msg. I saw the GAG line, Brad Park, Giacomin, the run to the cup finals in ‘79 with fat ass Espo (hated him), the lean years where we missed playoffs 7 times in a row, Messier / Leetch teams in 92 & 94 that won prez trophies and a cup, the black and blue teams that almost got to a cup with Henrik and the current team. I can honestly say I have never been embarrassed by this team like I am now. I have seen some bad ranger squads, but never seen quite the absolute quit these guys have shown us. You can blame Drury, Lavy all you want, everyone has an opinion as to what’s wrong. Mine is at the end of the day, whether the players are butt hurt of the way their teammates have been wronged or whatever, you have to play your ass off and not accepting losing. Hate to lose, for you wear the uniform and owe it to the fans but mostly your own reputation. If they thought they were proving Drury or Lavy by mailing it in on a daily basis, well, you ruined it all. Your play, or lack thereof, got not just Trouba and Kakko dealt, but coming very soon, the team ripped apart and rebuilt and many of the players spread across the league, coach fired, maybe Drury too. You had a very good team with pretty much the same cast, but chose to quit and prove a point- now you can’t stop the fall.

The Nyr are a three headed monster, the gm, the coach, and the players. Kid k is probably gone before February. The coach and his staff should be gone before that. And DD drury will be gone if they don’t make the playoffs. Drury is dumb enough to stick with his coach. He will destroy the roster to protect his own ass and lardass. And the next gm will have to figure out who should be his next coach and how to fix the roster. Unfortunately this is what happens when you have a weak gm and a yes man coach both playing cya by blaming the roster. Both are not good leaders which Dolan will deduct from not making the playoffs. And the fans get to swallow this shit sandwich in the meantime. And the paying fans are taken for granted and screwed as usual.

Again. Look at the Bruins. Great example of how and why it’s a good idea to change the guy behind the bench…sadly, had this been done three weeks ago, KAKKO would still be a Ranger. Hell, TROUBA might even still be on the team…regardless, LAVIOLETTE is gone either way. You simply can’t keep the guy who was expected to challenge for the cup this season and instead has given them a 9-16 record since November, and 3-8 in this month alone…so in other words? The Rangers are getting WORSE. It’s not all that surprising, because they are a much weaker, and less talented team now that also happens to be in a funk…but again…you have a coach who is grasping at straws, who is playing a system that has failed…miserably…and despite one of the worst records in the NHL over a two-month stretch, can’t seem to find the right way up…changing the coach may not fix everything, but it sure as fuck won’t make things any worse…you’d have to be a stone cold moron to not see the weakest link here…you don’t just have EVERY player on a team start playing terribly for no reason. This might not ALL be behind the bench, but I’d say 75 percent of it is.

Rangers continue to rot, stink and decay from the head on down starting with Dipshit Drury who has shown for 2 years he has zero knowledge of his team and players to the outdated Laviolette to every stinking vet to the recently infected and struggling kids (not to mention the ones that shouldnt br in the nHL!)..Last twwo games an utter disgrace with today from all 20 players as bad as it gets.....No sense anyhmore in picking out individuals...Team goes nowhere until all three heads are chopped off..

Laff one goal in his last 16 games…Also a -15 on the season…This team slump is about as bad as it gets…I am shocked Laviolette isn’t gone…

Lafreniere Since being resigned with a big pay raise looks-totally lost. No hustle, lazy, no flow and Just going thru the motions. Too busy spending money vs playing hockey.

And Micheletti is going to,get himself fired being so honest about their performance.

The blatant disrespect from the Devils with zero response from the Rangers really irritated the hell out of me. These guys are not a team, are not playing for each other or the crest on their jerseys. Or for the fans that pay the big bucks to see them. How someone did not decapitate Siegenthaler is beyond me. These guys were in their 3 day break before the lick was dropped.

Andrei. You're completely off-base. To absolve this coach of blame tells me (with all due respect) you truly don't get it.

JFC. You and me brother. And lots of others on here. Our loyalty is inexplicable and a curse

From LB’s latest paywall article…he rips into Kreider: “ Kreider, a healthy scratch for the first time since John Tortorella’s reign behind the bench ended following 2012-13, was no victim. In fact, he has been a co-conspirator in both his and his team’s demise over the past month’s implosion. Kreider has as much responsibility as any of them, as much as Mika Zibanejad, as much as Adam Fox, as much as Artemi Panarin, as much as Jacob Trouba had until he was escorted out of town a few months too late. Yes, we know that Kreider, the third-leading goal scorer (315) in franchise history, was cited in Chris Drury’s infamous Nov. 24 memo. We also know that he was dealing with back issues a couple of weeks ago. But the Rangers made it their business to let everyone know that Kreider was not being held out for a medical reason but instead was a healthy scratch. “It was a lineup decision. We need more,” Laviolette said. “At the end of the day, we’re not playing a brand we need to play in order to be successful. Kreider received the lowest five-on-five ice time of the Rangers’ 12 forwards in Sunday’s 3-1 defeat to Carolina and got more than only Matt Rempe on Friday in Dallas. He has scored one goal in the past nine games, an empty-netter against the Stars. He has scored only four power-play goals after getting 18 last season. He has 11 goals and one assist on the season. The scratch, according to Laviolette, was not a message sent to anyone other than the winger. “If I have messages for the rest of the room, I’ll tell them myself,” said the coach, who should be overflowing with messages after his team committed a pair of too-many-men infractions within 7:42 of each other in the second period and allowed PPG’s on each resulting man-advantage. Kreider, who turns 34 on April 30, has two years remaining on his contract at an annual $6.5 million cap hit. I think the contract adds — rather than detracts — value. The Rangers should be able to turn Kreider — who has a 15-team no-trade list — into a meaningful asset or two if Drury moves him. The NHL holiday roster freeze lifts a tick after midnight Saturday, but The Post has been told by a knowledgeable industry source that there is no trade on the table for Kreider and this was not an exercise in “roster management.” We were told that this is purely a decision from a coach who has been loath to hold Rangers veterans accountable. Again, Kreider’s contributions over the past month have been negligible, so it is hardly in the realm of reality to point to his absence as a cause for Monday’s embarrassment, in which it was obvious the Devils had zero respect for their opponents, delighting in hacking and whacking at Fox at every opportunity. They mugged it up and abused the Rangers’ marquee players without a second thought. If this was Instagram hockey, the Blueshirts were back in the two-cans-and-a-string era of communicating. The Rangers’ skill was eliminated. The Rangers’ will was never apparent. They were credited with a sum of 12 shots, one in the first 11:30 of the third period. They had two shots — count them: one, two! — at five-on-five over the second and third periods. There are apparently more Rangers with non-compete clauses in their contracts than no-trade and no-move clauses. Vincent Trocheck dropped the gloves with Paul Cotter at 3:55 of the first period after the New Jersey winger launched himself at Will Borgen — the guy the Blueshirts obtained for Kaapo Kakko — just 25 seconds into the match without a response. “We’ve gotta show more heart,” said Trocheck. “To a man, everybody has got to look himself in the mirror and dig deeper. “We should be embarrassed, the number of times we’ve lost by multiple goals like that and left goalies out to dry.” Panarin, who has scored in only four of his past 21 games, said that the Rangers are feeling the weight of this crash on essentially every shift. The weight of the veterans’ issues has cascaded over the kids. None of them are playing well, either, not Filip Chytil, not Alexis Lafreniere, not Braden Schneider, not even Will Cuylle. The Rangers get three days to themselves over this break. They get three days to look into as many mirrors as they can find. Kreider, too.

Wining covers a lot of problems. It did last year. Presidents trophy means zilch. Said it before, if it did, teams who gets the trophfy would be winning the cup every time, which is not the case. Last year Rangers had a fantastic first line. Line was hot. But they also had decent support. Not great, but good enough. While ZShit's offensive game was declining, he still could defend. Same with Kreider. ZShit line could not score even strength, but they did well defensively. They were a sudo checking line. They played major minutes against other teams best lines. 2024-2025 NYR team is much worst then their record. This team is fucken terrible. Every single line is mess, every single defensive pair is a mess, can't score, can't defend, PP is fucken disaster. There is nothing good about it. Well, maybe goaltending, but it means nothing when the team can't score and defend. Fox's game has gone off the cliff, or he never recovered from the injury. Kreider is a waist of space, whether it is his game that rapidly declining, or it is his back, either way, he is currently useless. All you need to know about ZShit is that the team will be better without him in the lineup and his -19, then with him, and it is a fact. Lindgren is simply begging to be traded. Panerin is hurst and visibly frustrated and his decision making is hugely impacted by the fact that he knows if he can't score and generate offense, no one on this team can. Just too many stupid decisions on his part. In this state, Panerin becoming a liability on the ice. What ever happen to Lafr? Trouchek? Even Chytil is now a no show. There is no will, no desire left on this team. I could be completely off base, but in my opinion, changing coach will mean very little to change the course of this team. Loosing became a norm. It is very, very hard to fix, even if you get a new voice behind the bench. I also think that Drury and team's management knows it as well. Only way to fix it, is the clean the house, retool in the offseason, and start fresh in the fall. But then again, what do I know.

vcp1994 - Nah, man...2022 was a fluke. A bigtime fluke. That team absolutely RODE luck and SHESTERKIN to the Conference finals. They really had zero business being there, and Tampa showed them that quickly...Last season? OK, 5-on-5 was dicey. But we have a PP that was firing off at about 30 percent on most nights. They were the third-ranked PP and third-ranked PK...Also, and admittedly, this is partially anecdotal, the team was at perhaps it's most comfortable coming from behind. There was never any quit. One, two, and even three behind in the first, and they'd come out with the win. You just don't have that at all this season...Yeah, some of it is Z. But man, a MAJOR difference this year is Adam FOX. He is average this year. Average on a good night. Some of his bad nights? He's looked like a shell of himself. TROCHECK, KREIDER and Z are all having career-worst years...LAFRENIERE has regressed back to 2022-23. And CHYTIL still hasn't taken the next step. The only thing the Rangers really have going for them right now is the CUYLLE looks to have improved. Literally the rest of the team looks a step behind or even two from where they were last season...If this were two years out from last season? I could get it. But six months and change from the Conference Finals? Nope. This isn't a personnel. Or at least it wasn't until DRURY pissed away two solid NHLers for two defensemen who are pedestrian on a good day...Still, when MILLER is back, the core of this team should at least be playoff capable...they are not a sub .500 team. Not by any stretch...and that's why it's ever the more mystifying that LAVIOLETTE has a job. He should've been let go the last time the Devils pushed his shit. Now? It's a fucking joke he's still here. I can only hope this is a service to him before the holidays.

President trophy means absolutely nothing....it means players had good regular seasons that's it . . Remember what Gretzky said. There are 3 seasons, regular season, playoffs and the cup finals

Tdchi...not quite true. Last year , trouchek, panarin and laffy had great years, Igor was on another planet and the PP was outstanding....this covered up many of the teams weaknesses..they always had trouble 5v5....however yes they broke lavy system and lost leadership in Goodrow and the trouba fiasco..so only the players really know .....this team was never that good. A one hit wonder.

“The Rangers enter their holiday break losers of 13 of their past 17 games. ”

MC/JFC: My wine is about a month away from being ready, but it is drinkable. I siphoned out five gallons for this week and next. If I keep watching this team, I might need five more. Ahh...let's toast... Buon Natale!!

I will say, this team isn't nearly as bad as its record...Last season was not an anomaly. It's just that teams figured out LAVIOLETTE'S system and he simply doesn't have it in him to design another one. He struggles with rolling lines and still hasn't figured out that if he puts his best players on the PK AND PP, that he's effectively shortening his bench. He built this team on the backs of eight or nine players. Just happens ALL of them are struggling...the way you get out of this funk? Well, first of all, get the guys who are skating the hardest the most minutes. Switch from whatever fucked up zone D this coach has them playing to man-on-man...shake up the PP and promote BO GROULX into the scene. Let's see what ROBERTSON can do too. And when OTHMANN is back? Him too...just deal BORGEN, SMITTY Jr. and hell, even the new Fin VAAKANAINEN. Move RUHWEDEL too. Might as well.

I’ll be somewhat satisfied if lardass is fired. Then I’ll wait for Dolan to figure out he has an empty suit ass licker as his gm. But probably what’s going to happen is that moron will trade away more players before he fires the fossil he hired. And I have no illusions that this team will win the cup in the next 8 years with Mr $11.5 Shazam . It will be a fluke and a lot of luck if it happens.

Rf4l: good explanation of Lav. I hope Drury doesn't make him happy by firing him.

MC - I’m way ahead of you, my Kelowna friend! Nothing else I can do to help so might as well punish myself some more lol

My favs are Rangers and the Giants.....the 2 worst teams in their respective leagues. It is a good thing I have lots of alcohol!

I don’t mean to sound overly dramatic but this season has become heartbreaking & depressing for me. This is my team, has been for almost 60 years. I was so looking forward to last season and then this season. I had thought…and proclaimed here on the Wall…that last season was when their Cup window officially was wide open in my heart and in my mind. They fell short last year but I was anxiously waiting all summer to fire this back up and take another shot. I thought they would drop Trouba to make cap space and then load up for a very serious chance at the Cup. In all my years, I have NEVER seen anything like this a d I’m so pissed off & sad right now….yeah, a gown ass man being made SAD by a bunch of guys making a lot of money playing a GAME! I just want this team to win another Cup…I want to experience it with my son. Yesterday, I see that Ricky Henderson, a guy I marveled at (especially when he was on the Yankees) died. He was 1 year older than me. Geezus Kryste, why does this INSANE SHIT have to happen to my favorite team? I feel like I’m watching us going 5 years backwards with no guarantee of any better results. Fuck me….

time for the culture change...and ditch the illusion your a contender... no more vet lovin coaches...accountability, 2 functional PP units and ice earned not entitled... iMO.. get the coach and see who responds and who does not.. and then get rid of those players.. we want the guys who will go to war and respond... nobody is going to give 100% on any team were the reality is some have entitlements .. it is human nature ..

And agreed there's been way too many dreadful days as a Ranger fan and amazingly rnough this latest fiasco is right up there in terms of dreadfulness. I knew that there were significant gaps on this team that were disguised by fabulous goaltending and their final 4 appearances in 2 out of the past seasons were over-achievements, but a falloff this drastic? Never in a million years. Very odd!!

I see zero reason to expect any trade engineered by Dreary not to end up being a fleecing. Fire his incompetent ass first then let the new GM boot Lardiolette out the door.

I’ve lived through some dreadful times with this team over the many years and this is one of them.. Way back when I can remember being a games at the Meadowlands that were embarrassing to all of us wearing blue. But that today was just pathetic. I can’t imagine how angry I would’ve been if I was at that game. Not only did they get out skated, but they got bullied. With hardly any response Trocjheck and Carrick it’s pretty much it. No anger from the coach? No emotion?

One other quick note? The Devils signed right wing Stefan NOESEN to a two year deal worth $2.6 million. The Rangers TRADED AWAY A SECOND ROUNDER *AND* A SIXTH ROUNDER to get Reilly SMITH at $3.6 million on a one-year deal. Let that sink in after today's game...

You start with the coach. Simple as that. You cannot let this team fall the way it's fallen and expect your coach is blameless. That's first. See if someone else can change things...outside of the Rangers under LAVIOLETTE remarkably awakening and getting a spark? The coach is done anyway. If they don't make the playoffs, he will be fired. So you have two months to turn it around. The only way you'll ever tell if it's possible is with a new coach..the Bruins fired perhaps the best coach in hockey right now and have gone 10-4-1 since...They still got significant issues...but at least SACCO is giving them a chance...This is the Bandaid DRURY needs to rip off...and if they still suck? Then it's time to start trading UFAs...Start with SMITTY Jr. and BORGEN. Take the 'L' on LINDGREN and move him too. The team is gonna get pumped on any trade, so start with that, retool and hope and pray that PERREAULT, OTHMANN and LABA can really bring a revival. But man...even the prospect of retooling isn't a happy thought under this GM. I can really see some awful deals in the making...

TD: cont. from 2-3 in the morning last night.....Something wrong with this 3rd/4th line wing's possession numbers? - Mathieu Olivier: GP:34 - G:9 - A:5 - PTS:14 - =/- (-2) (Hits: 2.5 per game) -2https://www.hockey-reference.com/players/o/olivima01.html

RF73: I read an article last week, I think it was in The Athletic, which looked at the Rangers descent from President's Trophy to garbage in less than a year. The author looked at maybe five comparables from NHL history, but concluded that there really hasn't been a fall as steep as this. Scary thing is that the situation has gotten worse since the article was written.

Keep loosing better off dump Drury and Laviolett.....and then the players .... Them call the sanitation department.

I mean, is anyone really surprised? Their goaltender won the game against Dallas. The game yesterday was a mess. The game today started OK, but ended a mess. Again, we have a team that is just totally lost. They seem thoroughly unable to play man-on-man D, which is as basic as it gets in terms of structure...first period? Not bad. They actually played up-tempo. But second period was a disaster. And by the third period, they were broken...BORGEN-VAKANAINEN is just about as bad of a pairing as it gets in the NHL. I literally have no idea how those guys left the game only -1. I swear I watched BORGEN fuck up on at least two goals. Maybe three. The dude was swinging his stick around on the first one. Like uh...we got you to be a physical presence...and you're stick checking against the Devils?! And then I caught him doing a light lob into the middle for a huge turnover. And then when he DOES decide to go up the boards, it's when three Devils are over there...And on the second PP goal? The dude picked up NO ONE. If he's the envy of the league and all these other teams want him...then let's sell high here. MANCINI was/is a much better player even at this point...TWO too many men penalties? That's called a mismanaged bench...your players literally have their heads up their asses. And then I think I counted at least a half-dozen Ranger-on-Ranger collisions in the second...losing KAKKO, TROUBA and to a far lesser degree, GOODROW has made this an inferior team. They are not nearly as good as they were in October, talent-wise. And without TROUBA, they're not as physical...this team may not be a contender with the personnel they have now...but one thing I DO know...if they are a contender, they won't be doing it with this head coach. He may not be THE problem, but he's sure as shit part of it.

Any team ever go from the President's Trophy to last in the league the next year?...Because the Rangers are trying to achieve / duplicate that diSTINKtion this year!

If you are not concluding that the coach needs to go then there’s nothing else to do except trade the players. It’s the coach.

Every player we trade will do better then they are doing here…..stable management, good coaching and a locker room that plays for each other

Man, so smashing one's unmentionables in a steel vice DID turn out to be the right play...Sorry for all you poor bastards that didn't heed my advice and instead watched the game...

Tom Wilson changed the whole course of this fucking franchise. Davidson Gordon out……Drury in. A proud original 6 franchise with only experience running an AHL team for a very short time…..and here we are grabbing deck chairs off the Titanic

Mika seen dressed and darting out of MSG soon to be cuddling his beau, it’s been a trying day for both of them. Lavy would’ve benched Meek-a, but he gets too emotional, very sensitive. What a f-ing joke this team became virtually overnight.

WOW.....and I mean WOW, does this edition of our beloved Rangers ever SUCK ! Look on the bright side......maybe for just once everyone here on the Wall may agree 100% for the first time ..... LOL

Rhet: And if the new HC gets the same results the trade values decrease at an accelerated rate. Pick your poison, and may the Schwartz be with you.

All of a sudden, KAKKO decides to throw hits? Maybe if he did that more often here, he wouldn't have been traded.

KK's line yesterday? Nearly 15 minutes of icetime a goal, a +1, 3 shots and 5 hits.

I have zero confidence in this GM. NONE. I don't think he knows how to build a team and I don't think he knows what ingredients a team is missing. That said, our players trade value is VERY LOW right now. There is no sense in making trades to get back a low return. Something needs to change. Fire the coach and promote one of the assistants. Wait to put in a more permanent coach when our options are better and not so limited.

So I take it Kreider was not the problem with the PP, nor was the first unit so terrible. They at least kept the puck in the zone. And the PK clearly hates that Kreider is on it as we saw today…

Just think though , only 5 more years and they can get rid of Zibanajab ! Of course, Drury might sign him to an extension

It's beyond obvious the players have given up and are basically waiting for the big move, which should be the firing of Lardiolette. Lardiolette has given up, too. There's no fire in him - his lineup tinkering is half-hearted and he doesn't bother with any in-game adjustments. As I mentioned a week or so ago, he probably really doesn't care that much - he's coached half of the teams in the league, he's 60 years ago, likely financially set and has at least 3 more years of guaranteed pay. Been there, done that in other words so just fire me so I can go home and relax.

It’s been enough losing. But getting bullied by New Jersey all over the ice? Absolutely inexcusable and pathetic. The Rangers should’ve been out there in the third period goon it up going after the Hughes Brothers going after brat all of these guys that were cheap shotting them. And who made Siegenthaler look like Chris Pronger out goon goon it

The organization can say they have no desire to change the coach again but they might not have a choice at this point. If they’re gonna make a change, make whoever is running the PK the new coach…I assume it’s Muse or Peca. If you’re gonna have a new coach, NO MORE DINOSAURS! Muse is very highly regarded, particularly coaching young players! Maybe it’s time to give him a chance! I assume Muse has worked with Gabe Perrault with the US National Team Development program

I'm so glad that I'm not watching, nor did I watch the last game. I did watch the game in Dallas. "Who shot J.R.?" ;->)

SLegs: Z'Bad isn't coming around to anything, trade him. We're not getting a Top line center back in return, because he's not performing line a top line center.

Rangers are 5 points out of 28th overall and 7 points out of last overall. What a freefall.

If Lardiolette is behind the Ranger bench in Tampa I just might finally be done with this fucking team.

How sad it will be the NJD put a fork in this team- I could deal with the Caps doing it but the Devils…

Fire the coach and the players will come back to playing instead of just showing up to lose. They are digging the hole for him.

Lardass better get fired after January 1,2025. He is lost with no answers and no solutions.

The rink is now tilted enough for the Rangers to be issued ice axes. Unfortunately, these listless patsies would know what to do with them. Lavy has quit. Bring out your dead.

PAN and TRO just didn’t even attempt to get back to the D Zone. They both can fuck off.

Shonuff: Great point. We seem to have better luck with our fourth round picks than our top ten picks. Maybe we can trade it for a collections of thirds, fourths and fifths.

10 shots and we are in the 3rd period, if that is not giving up I’m not sure what is.

Also a top 5 with this leadership is useless they will go off the board and draft another European with noted personality issues .

No doubt in my mind this core group already knows the time the last game of the regular season ends . I cannot believe this has happened . I never buy into the “ this game or team ended them “ but I do with Florida . They seem to have quit hockey since that series ended . Z can go change diapers and DJ . Fox will have plenty of time to rest his knee and Laff well … no idea .

The very slight hope I had we could come out of this "funk" evaporated this afternoon. There is no funk--this is a poorly managed/coached collection of physically and mentally soft players. There is no fixing this group. We need to be sellers heading into March and allow the team to collapse into a top five pick. Never expected to be in re-tooling mode so soon, but alas here we are. So disappointing.

An absolute disaster & abomination…two too many men on the ice penalties lead to 2 goals against! There’s no excuse and no recovering from that bullshit! What a fucking shit show!

Laviolette probably won’t deserve it but you can only trim the players. You can always have a coach fall on the sword

RF many players become goons and stronger when there isnt anybody tough on the opposing team. Who is goi g to fight? Fucking zbad? He might hirt his hands and could t DJ. Fox? Chytil ? He gets a concussion from skating too fast. Panarin? Berard? This team is shit and so soft. Must get rid of Lavi and drury? I dont know what Drury is thinking

Wow this team blows. Too bad we didn’t get the fortune of luck to draft Hughes. Maybe we can Hagans this year. Keep this up and it could become a real possibility. They need speed, will/strength/physicality, and bluechip C’s

How to remake this team? - fire coach - replace jones, VAK, R. Smith, EDSTROM, Jonny Bro

Mr. Dolan please get rid of the 2 clowns you have in charge of this beloved franchise. The team is soft and undisciplined.

This team is a mess. This is what a team looks like when there’s no one behind the bench.

Every time they start to get going, they take a too many men on the ice panalty.

I’m done… I will not watch a team not compete… Not only are they being beat on the scoreboard… They are being beat on the ice by the Devils… And they are beating themselves taking stupid ass penalties.

I agree the coach has lost the team but PAN is supposed to be the NYR best forward and he continues to put the team in a bad position with his terrible decisions.

I’m ready for Lav to go…. How in the world can these brain farts continue? Waited too long to hold players accountable

So worse, not an attempted pass but an attempt to stickhandle through a maze of players at the blueline and coughs it up.

Study in a complete meltdown of a team .. and management deer in the headlights....what organization in the league would let this crap go on like this ?? What are u waiting for..

Alparently the players srent to concerned about the job. Still no discipline. Time to get rid of lavi

What the fuck is Panarin doing - that too many men is on him - stopping at the blueline and trying a east/west pass towards the Ranger bench. He's become a turnover machine again. Ridiculous.

RF73: It's bad. Really bad. There's almost nothing redeeming about this team right now. That the Dreary and Lardiolette show is continuing is a big head scratcher for me.

How bad is it when a former number one pick has to defend himself against abuse. Any other team would have 2 or 3 guys jump in to send a message. How pitiful is this team.

RF: a quick perusal of the local clubs indicate that Boston might be a trade partner for one or both of Meak-ahh & or Kreider. Today's 'fickle-me' would rather move 'The Meak-ster' and retain Kreider.

Isn't that 3 games in a row with a Too Many men .. anyway game over.. groceries await .. can't listen to the Devils cast.. sickening

Rangers come out pushing hard, looking like they’re gaining momentum and then they get a too many men penalty…INEXCUSABLE!

TD: RE: Z'Bad, "You're only as good as your last trade!" Welcome to Wall Street! Conform or don't touch the phones or keyboards, as a matter of fact, stay out of the trading rooms. That's Wall Street circa prior to 9/11. (naturally, I'm referring to Meak-Ahh, who has Rich Nash engraved in his brain with, "there's more to life than just hockey, and not referring to you)

Maybe Drury has a deal lining up for KK after the freeze. Maybe trading KK and breaking up the bromance could be his only choice . I wonder if Mika fired up the team in the locker room with his patented “hockey doesn’t matter “speech, at least we’re healthy and have our families. Let’s spin some hip hop and do the Jack Hughes shuffle!

The best parts of the Nyr games are in between periods so my eyes and ears get a rest by walking away from the tv .

Cnparda..it's never gonna happen...that's like asking your cat to bark or your dog to meow . For us oldies on here there used to be a great Tv commercial for Klick and Kam luncheon meat............and the punch line was "it just isn't in me"

Then people wonder why rempe is part of the team. He needs to be there. Otherwise they will get ass kicked

This game here is probably the best reason of all why Rempe has to stop getting suspended !

I would appreciate some physicality from EDSTROM at some point. Your 6”7 and a dude is whacking your best defenseman and you do the stare and bro hug with a devil. CARRICK probably the only one in the lineup who has the balls to go with DILLON, what a gamer.

Markstrom looks like shit but the Rangers can’t put any real pressure on him…

Don’t scratch zbad you might hurt his feelings. Give him more ice time. He deserves every minute.

Markstrom letting out HUGE rebounds but Rangers aren’t there to gather them…

Sweet lord, I’m trying to find an upside with BORGEN, but the dude is a human turnover machine.

Yeah, that was a stinker by Quick.... I wish the NYR's were as confident on defense as they are with their blind passes.

same crap in their own end.. can't clear when they get possession to save their lives.. and a soft goal ..

Far be it for me to yuck someone else's yum, but I will chose watching the NYR game 100 times out of a 100 as compared to any of those other options.

I think smashing one's balls and/or genitalia in a steel vice would probably be more pleasurable than this game, but that's just a suspicion.

KREIDER a healthy scratch, I thought PAN was worse yesterday but what do I know. Not sure where this team goes if LAF, K, Z don’t pick up their game.

Tough choice .. watch the game or go grocery shopping....maybe watch the first and see if it is a game or not .... sad state of affairs..

If it's a "healthy scratch' then he is is not hurting or injured ? So who is trying to fool who on this one ? Or are we just fooling ourselves.

I believe that Kreider came back too early the last time because of all of the drama going on and he wanted to be there for his team mates but you can tell he's still hurting. Back-to-back's can be brutal on the back.... That said, I would be remiss to not mention that Kreider's name has been mentioned quite a bit in trade rumors, most prominently with the Boston Bruins.

Rangers lineup today in Newark: Panarin-Trocheck-Lafrenière Smith-Zibanejad-Berard Cuylle-Chytil-Brodzinski Edström-Carrick-Vesey Lindgren-Fox Jones-Schneider Vaakanainen-Borgen Quick Shesterkin Scratches: Kreider (healthy), Rempe (suspended 2/8), Ruhwedel IR: Miller (upper-body injury)

RF4L - That's basically saying teams NEED Auston MATTHEWS and Connor McDAVID to win a cup. Again. Prior to this season? You couldn't name 15 centers in the league that are better than Z. Not objectively possible. And even if you don't think he fell in the top-15, definitely the top 20. Saying he's a second tier center? That's saying there are 32 centers out there who are better. And if you can make THAT list and stand by it with a straight face...well...I'd say you're not being objective at all.

This is a load of nonsense with ZIBANEJAD. Is the guy having issues this season? Sure. Are they concerning? Yes, if he doesn't rebound. But FFS, people: This guy has carried the Rangers on his shoulders for six years now. He's been a playoff performer. He has done LITERALLY everything that is asked of him. And yet folks here just look for a reason to bitch about him. Like those quotes? The guy is talking about how he has to have a life outside of hockey. Ummm, yeah. He does. EVERY player does. These guys aren't machines. And in that excerpt? The key point is that this guy is level tempered. Again. The guy you want on your team in big situations...I agree, he hasn't looked very good this season. My take is and continues to be there's something wrong with him, because he's significantly slower than last season...but outside of that? He's been the best, most consistent center the Rangers have had SINCE MESSIER fell off the cliff. It's just ridiculous to hear folks hate on him as much as they do. Fuck, when he was nailing 90-plus points in a season, folks like andrei were still saying he sucks...And I'll close by saying this: if Z were traded or shut down for the season? We'd see REALLY quickly how bad the Rangers need Z and what he does for them game in and game out.

I'm affraid that Zbad is just another of those pro athletes collecting a pay cheque until he quits the game. Happens a lot in NBA and NFL but not a lot in NHL. He may have had a love for the game when he was younger but it has long left his body.

Zbad would be fine as a 2nd line centre on a team with a legitimate first line centre and solidly entrenched leadership. If the idiotic Rangers had actually used a couple of their high picks on centres over the years, this might not have been an issue.

Jfc31...I have been saying this about ZBAD for years no cup with him he isn't built for it...no one listens.

Mark Messier probably would VOMIT if he reads Zibanejad’s quotes! He would have had Sibanejad traded so fast it would make his head spin! Think about the Tkachuk brothers….domwe think any one of them would EVER say what Zibanejad said?

From The Athletic. Make of it what you will but to me it confirms exactly what is wrong and to have this attitude in the locker room is not conducive to winning a Stanley Cup. Those who have said we will never win a Cup with Zibanejad as 1C are spot on. You can’t win the hardest trophy in the world to win unless you are OBSESSED with WINNING! What do Zibanajad’s quotes tell you? And it’s become worse ever since he had a child. Sorry, but that is the truth! “ In the earlier stages of both the Rangers’ and Zibanejad’s struggles — his ice time is also down from 19:45 a game last season to 18:19 now — we asked Zibanejad how he blocks out the noise when things aren’t going well. As he has always been, Zibanejad’s answer was thoughtful and honest. “I don’t think just because you think about hockey 24/7 that you’re more passionate, more driven because you think about hockey all the time,” he said. “I think there’s breaking points in terms of, you leave the rink, you have a life outside, other responsibilities. I think hockey is a big part but it’s not everything. Whatever you do as a young guy to take your mind off it at times, when things aren’t good to be able to mentally reset. For me, it’s to be able to talk to my friends, be a human being as well as a hockey player. “What I do is not necessarily who I am.” That sort of honesty can get a player in trouble. Zibanejad is very much a “never too high, never too low” type of professional, which is great when things are going well because it looks as though players like him aren’t satisfied. When it’s this sort of malaise, though, and you’re counted on to help pull the team out of it, that cool exterior and humane perspective can sound like you don’t care enough. Zibanejad is in a different position than his good friend Chris Kreider, who has a 15-team no-trade clause and two years left on his contract at a reasonable $6.5 million cap hit. Zibanejad has five years left at $8.5 million and a full no-move clause, which means he can’t be traded, sent to the minors or waived without his consent. So Zibanejad, whose contract is built around bonuses so it is also essentially buyout-proof, is not likely going anywhere. Nor is his candor or his perspective.”

The only hope for the Nyr is unfortunately to keep losing. Then DD drury will be forced to make the decision on his coach, or start to take real heat from the owner.

In the NHL, the player has to submit a written appeal within 48 hours of the decision. It costs nothing. You might possibly get 1-2 fewer games or nothing. Why the F not? It's worth it, especially when you're talking about your pay.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/sports/nhl/rangers-kakko-buchnevich-trades-have-big-similarities/ar-AA1wmVh4?ocid=msedgntp&pc=ACTS&cvid=a838637ae167451db4d71af6ea5ec2d9&ei=8

Tdchi....rangers won't appeal rangers are the biggest pussies ....Drury and company

It's so obvious to many that the problems start with Lardiolette. What is Drury waiting for? His own walking papers? Today's game is gonna be ugly I fear.

Can’t read this but the first 2 paragraphs, and it tells the tale of a coach who can’t help himself. … https://nypost.com/2024/12/22/sports/rangers-problems-go-far-beyond-mika-zibanejads-ice-time/

And the REMPE suspension? This is a rare moment where I kinda agree with everyone. Eight games is excessive, and the Rangers SHOULD challenge it. At bare minimum, it would show they kid they have his back. But in the league's view? You have a massive kid who punched his way through his NHL debut and took only a couple weeks to establish a cult following. The guy is already blasting people into next month. You know they're going to come down on him like a pile of bricks any time they can. It's not fair, but it's the reality. They can't condone a dude like that running amok...I also agree that he doesn't get NEARLY the scrutiny down in the AHL that he does in the show. This is very true. But you know why that is, right? It's because the AHL refs KNOW REMPE, not just a thug...Regardless...here's the rub: Everyone...the Rangers, the refs, LAVIOLETTE, the opposing team, the league, and most importantly, REMPE himself...everyone KNOWS he's going to be held to a different standard...that's why I genuinely would like to know what the fuck was going through his mind when he stepped into a hit with his elbow raised that way. Like, dude. WHAT DID YOU THINK WAS GONNA HAPPEN?! Best case scenario is that you miss and he gets away with the puck. BEST CASE! So yeah. It's excessive. But not by much. Hopefully, the Rangers appeal, and they knock it down to five or six.

...so why the disparity in ice? Did those...um...mostly successful penalty kills save the game? Fuck no. Did tiring out your top guys who weren't playing very well to begin with help you win the game? Nyet. Like come on, LAVIOLETTE. Think for a second the guys who are in the biggest malaise on this team. They are ALSO the guys you're skating the most, game in and game out. Without fail. And instead of curtailing their duties, you just seem to intensify them. I swear, TROCHECK is going to be skating 30 minutes by the end of this season...I do need to reward good behavior though...he DID, for the first time in forever, send out his second unit PP in the third...but again...we have a coach who isn't playing to the strength of his team...not at least its complete strength. And it's like playing with one arm tied behind your back...Doesn't help, too, that this fucking idiot seems to be enjoying the Chad RUHWEDEL Rival Tour...coming to a city near you...what the fuck does he see in this guy?! Perfect example of how stats can be misleading...dude looks like he had a great game on paper...HE FUCKING SUCKS. Will BORGEN?! I'm going to withhold judgement...I'm not optimistic though...the ONE guy who does look to be better than expected is VAAKENAINEN. Not flashy. Not really noticeable until you slow things down and watch what he's doing...Another guy I'm really warming too? Sam CARRICK. I didn't think I would. I'm still not sold on the idea that there weren't better candidates for his job, and despite what seem to be an ample skill set, I really don't understand how he's as bereft of offense as he is, but he's solid. BERARD is everything I thought he'd be and more. So glad that in the NHL, he's playing the same EXACT style that made him so indispensable for Team USA, Providence College and the Pack. I was worried he might get buried like Ryan BOURQUE..and actually, Jonny MARCHESSAULT before him were...and that he's making the best of his shot...Not much more to say about everyone else. They kinda sucked. SCHNEIDER had his moments, as did CUYLLE...but the rest? Whole bunch of passengers. SHESTERKIN and the cross bar were the only reason that game wasn't 6-1. Not sure I'm going to be able to stomach another shit pushing from the Devils.

Re: The game. Another one where the coach simple isn't learning or at least not nearly as quickly as he should be learning...we also got to see first fucking hand the difference between instructor and student...The game wasn't going Carolina's way. BRIND'AMOUR adjusted. He turned up the volume by essentially pushing a stifling forecheck. The Canes got the benefit of a late PP that allowed them to set the tempo in the second and they fucking did it. They took away every inch of ice from the Rangers...more on this in a bit, because THIS is a major reason the Rangers aren't as good this year...so Ranger gets the puck? ALWAYS a guy on him. Man-on-man. No time for crisp passes. Everything has to be done in motion. Only way to really counter that kind of approach is a PURE north-south game, where you're either dumping and chasing or doing rushes. Requires you to get players crashing the net ALWAYS. Not just once or twice. I mean on EVERY zone entry. This is stupid, low-IQ hockey. It's how you play when your line is low-skill. It's about playing for the chance that someone on the other side will fuck up...BUT...that is how you counter what BRIND'AMOUR was doing in the second and third, after he adjusted...ON THE OTHER BENCH? LAVIOLETTE just folded. And 'because of the penalties'...not my words mind you...he kept the ONE line that would've best countered the Canes on the bench for ALL of the second and most of the third...instead, he kept rolling out guys who have proven time and again that they simple CAN'T play north-south hockey, as counterintuitive as that sounds...I don't think the Rangers played bad. In truth, these past two games have been their best since really the beginning of November...but they're back to letting other teams carry the puck and dictate the play. Tell you what: If I'm an opposing coach? I tell my guys to basically set up in a box around the slot, basically in a formation like the five on dice. Just let the Rangers pass it around the outside. Fuck, let them have the boards. Their shooters suck and hardly ever hit the net. And they almost always refuse to send someone to the net. The only guys on the team, really, who consistently go to the net are TROCHECK, who has been in his own sizeable funk, and now BERARD. Oh and you know who else? THE WHOLE FOURTH LINE...the fact VESEY...who had his best game of the season and was looking like a top-six forward he was originally supposed to be...got only 8 minutes is stupefying. And BERARD 10:30? I think it was BOYLE who was saying 'well, because of all the penalty kills, the fourth line didn't get on the ice much...' Well...OK. I ask why not? It's great to have talented guys like TROCHECK, Z FOX and KREIDER on the PK and all...but why? VESEY was great at the PK and I'm not sure why he's off it. CARRICK has been a PKer his whole career. BERARD is a bit small, but he's got the acceleration to be an effective guy to watch the point. So why

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nhl/canadiens-what-s-up-dach/ar-AA1wk5bs?ocid=msedgntp&pc=HCTS&cvid=9910d61f17f0446c95d67adf00ed0e0a&ei=246

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nhl/bridge-deals-that-burn-four-nhl-rfa-defensemen-are-in-line-for-big-raises/ar-AA1wjVna?ocid=msedgntp&pc=HCTS&cvid=0aae505fe9ca4d4dafbac1b7e72acee9&ei=2

Hits are great. But I'll say it again, because it bears mentioning whenever hits stats are brought up: The curious thing about hitting in hockey is that you can't really have possession of the puck when you're hitting someone. So you can have a team that beats another team into submission...that DOES happen...but more time than not, it is POSSESSION that dictates the play and the best indicator of the outcome. That's especially against teams that are fast and designed for puck possession...here's what hits stats ALSO don't tell: Your level of forecheck. You can have a hard forechecking team that is very effective and end the game with a handful of hits...Bottom line is the hits stat is very nuanced. Can't really use it unless you have eyes on the game...as we learned with TROUBA and now increasingly with REMPE, sometimes it's not to your advantage to be dishing out big blasts.

JFC: VIBE candidate, pretty perfect bottom 6 RHS Forward, 2.5 HITS per game, built like a tank, priced right salary-wise: https://www.hockey-reference.com/players/o/olivima01.html