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Sat May 17 2025 10:12 pm EST
Wanted the Jets to win that game so bad for SCHIEFFLE and sucks that they scored on the PP after his penalty (where was the D with 15 seconds left????)..Thoughts are with Schieffle and his family..the rest kinda meaningless
Hospo
Sat May 17 2025 7:06 pm EST
Buttplug probably not sleeping well given that while it remains unlikely the thought of 3 Canadian teams in the final 4. Lolol. Asshole.
rf4l
Sat May 17 2025 1:59 pm EST
Stanley cup ingredients are , combo of talent, luck and officiating
vcp1994
Sat May 17 2025 1:30 pm EST
Brennan OTHMANN wasn't my first, second or third choice in the draft...all my guys were off the board by the time the Rangers picked...And had it not been for the pandemic/OHL's cancelled season, JOHNSTON probably would've gone in the top-15...maybe even top-10. But again, we have a situation here where franchises take dynamically different approaches to developing talent...The Stars are comfortable with bringing talented young players into the fold early in their career, and providing them with both ice and talented linemates. The Rangers just aren't...OTHMANN is a bit of a strange case, because he probably would've gotten an early-season callup had he not been injured...still, right up until the end, LAVIOLETTE kept him basically buried on the third and fourth line, and limited his minutes. He got shit in the way of PP time...JOHNSTON got second unit minutes as a rookie and this year, got promoted to first-unit...I know some folks are sticklers about players breaking the door down to get these minutes...and I agree to some degree that you need to be an asset wherever you are in the lineup...but if you put OTHMANN on a line with PANARIN, TROCHECK, Z, and FOX and let those guys run the PP, you wouldn't see him goaless through his first 25 NHL games. In fact, you'd probably see stats along the line of JOHNSTON. OTHMANN is a very good young player. He's just getting shit for opportunity from the Rangers...Hell, CUYLLE is another example. That dude basically had to force his way into a higher-line position this season by being the only guy to generate offense. He was doing the SAME EXACT THINGS last season, and was buried in the bottom six. Even now, the guy can't get PP time.
tdchi
Sat May 17 2025 12:52 pm EST
NYRs- We are all long suffering fans (although not as bad as Toronto LOL@), but seeing Wyatt Johnson score 33 goals and 38 assists this year while Othmann score 0 goals and 2 assists is just painful, especially because the NYRs are so overloaded on LW and Johnson is a C. Painful. In truth, I was calling for Z Bolduc to be picked in that 2021 #16 slot, another C.
schneidw
Sat May 17 2025 12:47 pm EST
Pittsburgh- Is it me, or does it look like Drury has decided to keep the NYRs 2025 1st round pick?
schneidw
Sat May 17 2025 12:45 pm EST
KREIDER- The real question for me as to whether Kreider stays or goes is will he heal and be 100% next year? My issue w Kreider, as reflected by his 8 measly assists in 68 games, is that he no longer forechecks and gets to the puck first and basically has become a 1 trick pony that goes to the right side of the net and sets for tip ins... No matter what, Sullivan needs to move Lafrenierre back to his natural LW spot and Drury needs to create a roster spot. I much prefer Drury find a way to trade Panarin.
schneidw
Sat May 17 2025 11:03 am EST
Almost impossible to win a cup
shonuff
Sat May 17 2025 11:02 am EST
Ovi Era 2006: no playoffs 2007: no playoffs 2008: lose round 1 2009: lose round 2 2010: lose round 1 2011: lose round 2 2012: lose round 2 2013: lose round 1 2014: no playoffs 2015: lose round 2 2016: lose round 2 2017: lose round 2 2018: win Stanley Cup ???? 2019: lose round 1 2020: lose round 1 2021: lose round 1 2022: lose round 1 2023: no playoffs 2024: lose round 1 2025: lose round 2
shonuff
Sat May 17 2025 10:44 am EST
Teemu
shonuff
Sat May 17 2025 10:43 am EST
Gonna be interesting how the playoffs are ref’d from her on out . I actually want a Canadian team to win this year but only the Jets and Edmonton . Would be great to see a white out with Teem returning . What does Bettman want ? Carolina / Florida against Dallas . Would be the worst final in a long time . Unwatchable
shonuff
Sat May 17 2025 10:25 am EST
Hospo there are plenty who agree with you on Zhair and how FLA plays and has shaped their team. Unfortunately just no one that makes the decisions on the Rangers. Plus if you can navigate around the cap with ltir why not take advantage of? It seems like it is the way to win Cups these days. The rest of us fans of other teams might not like it but until the loophole is closed it is reality. Plus DDD had a chance to take advantage of it two years ago and chose not to. I know there are those that have excuses as to why he didn’t but I call bullshit on that.
NYStranger
Sat May 17 2025 9:27 am EST
Coloradomark buddy. I think you know the answer. The regular season doesn't matter if you don't show up in the playoffs. Regular season is just to get into the dance. You know that, I know you do lololol.
vcp1994
Sat May 17 2025 9:22 am EST
CM - Actually, while ZSOFT and Panarina are not 16 game players and are useless like you say, I would take KREIDER in the POs...As for this coming year, I thought Kreids was 100% gone after Drury's incompetent letter last year and his struggles, but think there is a possibilty that SULLY wants him kept...Ditto with the rest of the soft core...IMWO it has to be changed (not saying ALL of them)...Problem is the most valuable (Panarina) is also the player that would fetch the most..followed by Fox..ZSOFT maakes perfect sense to trade becquse he is a THIRD C, the game he plays, his struggles, and his contract.But all that gives him little trade value....and SULLY might like him kept also...LOng way of saying it just migth be the same old same old but with a new coach who likes a non-physical, vet-dominated attack...Can't wait...
Hospo
Sat May 17 2025 9:01 am EST
It was decided long ago that Z, Panarin and Kreider are 82 game players and not 16 game players. Therefore they are useless. I think Kreider is gone, moving Z is a pipe dream. Panarin can be an effective piece and I would be shocked if they moved him. But when people talk about doing what needs to be done, moving Z is usually what they mean. But how do you move him and what do you get back for him? He was better the second half and is looking great in the WC. I think he’ll bounce back, but his regular season success will be dismissed as irrelevant. But if the regular season doesn’t matter, how come the Rangers weren’t in the playoffs?
ColoradoMark
Sat May 17 2025 8:51 am EST
TDCHI - Good to totally disagree with you (and most on the Wall) this morning,,,,I LOVE the way the Panthers platy the game, like watching them play it and actually like a few of their layers and wish the Rangers had them...As for ZSOFT, it's the opposite, I can't stand the way he plays the game, especially at ES and when things get challenging and physical...Can't stand watching him play at all and even his mug irritates the shit out of me...Not trying to convince anybody and am probably wrong...Just me....Different strokes for different folks!!
Hospo
Sat May 17 2025 8:51 am EST
Last year I was at G1 of the ECF and got to see one of the most frustrating games ever against those panthers. I head back to NY tomorrow. Looking forward to Pizza and a city excited about the Knicks!
ColoradoMark
Sat May 17 2025 8:49 am EST
TD- Agreed. I’m sick of the damn Panthers and everyone talking about how great they are. Yeah, they have players who play the game the right way, but I would love to see them fail. The Knights won and we had a year of “that’s the way to build a team” I can’t handle another year of the Panthers! And they are both cap circumventors!
ColoradoMark
Sat May 17 2025 8:47 am EST
re: BENNETT - I really don't know how they fit him. They're going to have to sign him and EKBLAD, and assuming they let MARCHAND go, and go to the under-$800K bargain bin for the rests of their roster needs...including for a backup goalie and two wingers, a fourth line center and a seventh defender...that'll give them $10 million for EK and BENNETT. Maybe EK takes a hometown deal, but BENNETT will be $7 million plus. I wouldn't be surprised to see him at $8 million over seven years...That said, I fully see the Rangers moving KREIDER and/or Z to free up enough space to sign him.
tdchi
Sat May 17 2025 8:38 am EST
I really dislike the Florida Panthers. Maybe not as much as the stupid fucking Golden Knights, but close. The BS they pulled with TKACHUCK on the IR...all the cap gymnastics they did to get MARCHAND and JONES under the threshold. I just really dislike that team. I also can't take all the fawning over them, like they're god's gift to the NHL. Not sure I could take another year of them winning...the idea of a LEAFS-OILERS final...man...that would be something.
tdchi
Sat May 17 2025 8:30 am EST
re: ZIBANEJAD, I have never fully understood the hatred for this guy...he's the best center this team has had since GRETZKY retired. The guy has performed consistently, and has become exactly the player he was expected to be when the Senators drafted him. The guy is the type of center any team would love...did he have a bad season? No doubt. But so did everyone on the Rangers. There isn't a player who achieved over where he was expected. Just about everyone, save for maybe CUYLLE, performed BELOW expectations. Everyone. They were coached by a guy who checked out after they got bounced from the conference final. And the more they tried to turn things around, the more he kept turning the nose of the plane toward the ground...ZIBANEJAD was a reflection of the team around him and the stupid system it was playing, which stymied his offense while simultaneously leaving the defense badly exposed...but also, just in the way a rising tide floats all ships...the Rangers' losing was infectious. Every single player looked the same as Z, which was lost. Just not knowing how they could move out of that malaise...and then to have a coach who essentially abandoned the team mid-season? Z was a reflection of the mess the Rangers were...and part of me thinks a lot of the criticism he takes from fans has more to do with who he is as a person and less about how he plays...KREIDER's season was 100 times more abysmal and he didn't get even half the criticism as Z...nevertheless...I think Z will have a very nice rebound season next year, getting back to the same two-way game that landed him as the Rangers' top-line center...I don't doubt it at all...my only question is whether he'll be doing it with the Rangers.
tdchi
Sat May 17 2025 8:02 am EST
JFC31 - after watching LAVIOLETTE's epic implosion and how quickly he went into retirement mode...really, it started against the Florida Panthers in the conference finals...I'm pretty sure he wasn't hired as a long-term coach...and I suspect DRURY figured he could leave KNOBLAUCH in Hartford for two or three more years, since he is a rather young coach...he probably hoped he would make the Pack a contender and be there when LAVIOLETTE decided to retire or leave whenever his contract was up...the Oilers really did come out of left field to grab him. I mean, WOODCRAFT Was really kind of the Oilers' version of KNOBLAUCH...I don't think anyone saw him getting canned after two years...And once that happened, KNOBLAUCH'S relationship with McDAVID made him an obvious choice...I mean, it's all academic at this point, because the RIGHT choice was to hire him the day Dave QUINN was fired. Once that mistake was in the books, it was only a matter of time until KNOBLAUCH left. LAVIOLETTE's hire must have been a slap to the face...Tell you what: I'm also a little fucking pissed DRURY didn't have the savvy to try to get some compensation out of the Oilers. Hartford hasn't been the same team since he left. Kinda fucked how the Oilers double-fucked the Rangers. Not only did they fleece us of one of the better young coaching minds, they also tanked our farm team with that hire. I'm not going to make judgments quite yet on Grant POTULNY, but I gotta say I was REALLY disappointed in the Pack last season. They should've been much better than they were with the team they had...
tdchi
Sat May 17 2025 12:06 am EST
Leafs shocked the hell out of me tonight..Great gutty team win against team that doesn't lose those type of games
Hospo
Fri May 16 2025 11:15 pm EST
Well the cats kicked our asses. Leafs are a much better team thankfully they have a shot. Hard to win 2 in a row though.
vcp1994
Fri May 16 2025 10:46 pm EST
PJ. Lots of woohoos here at my house. Game 7? Who the hell knows. Such is NHL PO hockey!
rf4l
Fri May 16 2025 10:04 pm EST
Credit where credit is due….Leafs bounced back and played a good game….Shutout the Panthers in Florida in an elimination game…Not easy to do….
PJ
Fri May 16 2025 9:44 pm EST
Glad toront won tonight. Dont like florida. Dont like the hockey they play. Ors football on ice
Kis
Fri May 16 2025 4:01 pm EST
Jfc31 just for this year lolol. Stick it to Drury
vcp1994
Fri May 16 2025 3:59 pm EST
Jfc31 that's exactly my point about Mika. It's not easy to sacrifice to win. He doesn't want to. That's not abnormal lol
vcp1994
Fri May 16 2025 3:52 pm EST
Hospo - very good point about the style of hockey…very far from NHL playoff hockey
JFC31
Fri May 16 2025 3:50 pm EST
Sorry Wild, I don’t disagree about Mika’s stats but I don’t give a rats ass about them. I care about his commitment to do whatever it takes to win…I don’t think he has it. I think he has “principles” that guide his life and they’re not compatible with playoff hockey. He’s a good, gentle man, a good person and he will not compromise that for anything, including brutal, whatever-it-takes-to-win hockey. Very admirable for an average, every day person but not for an NHL player
JFC31
Fri May 16 2025 3:44 pm EST
Too trashed to read down The Wall so apologies if I’m repeating what’s already been said posted. Good article in The Athletic about 2025 draft players who are built for the playoffs. And let’s face it, Drury is not rebuilding and Sullivan is here to win a Cup QUICKLY so that’s all that matters in this draft and why I think Drury will keep the pick. Plenty of ranked “PO-type” players thought to be possibly available to the Rangers at #12 highlighted in this article: #6 McQueen, #8 Aitcheson, #9 Mrtka #15 Smith. That’s what Drury will look for and why he’ll keep the pick…he does not intend on not making the POs next season
JFC31
Fri May 16 2025 3:32 pm EST
JFC - COuld be his commitment level as you say and/or could also be that this is pretty easy non-physical hockey where he is playing now....That's how he likes it and feels comfortable with...Why he is good in open ice situations of both the PK and PP......I hope to god he continues to play well and somebody wants to make a deal for him....Unfortuantely, Since ZSOFT always plays well agasint the ultra soft Penguins, my bet is the loser SULLY wants to keep him....Rangers have zero shot of competing for the cup if their core is still lead by ZFLOAT, Fox and Panarina..even Kreider for that mattter who I can see SULLY wanting also..
Hospo
Fri May 16 2025 3:32 pm EST
JFC did history change? Because the last 1/3 or so of the season Zib was a point per game player. Some statements made by him on breakup day make me think that he had some off ice personal stuff happening early on in the season. If so. I would expect that stuff was taken care of or he adjusted by the end of the season. That’s why his game picked up in a major way down the stretch and why his international play is good.
Wildcard
Fri May 16 2025 3:31 pm EST
Knoblauch is who I wanted as coach after Gallant. Drury hired him when he was GM of Hartford so ya gotta think it’s who he’d wanted next. Wild guess…Dolan squashed it
JFC31
Fri May 16 2025 3:28 pm EST
VCP - when you want teams ir players to “stick it” to Drury, that means you want them to stick it to the Rangers…which means you want them to stick it to Rangers fans. I will never go there…NEVER! I will never give comfort to the enemy. JMO
JFC31
Fri May 16 2025 3:24 pm EST
And perhaps that’s part of the problem with Zibanejad…maybe he sees his jplayvwith the Rangers as a job, a paycheck and he sees playing for Sweden as something patriotic & motivating. Or maybe he just didn’t work out as much as he should have in the off season…I’ve read that in several online outlets and would correspond with his horrible start. Who knows? I just think it makes sense to just cut the cord with him…get him to agree to leave and take whatever you can get. I’ve always had my doubts about his commitment to do whatever had to be done to win in the NHL. He brings his own pussified moral code to the ice and it’s incompatible with winning in the playoffs
JFC31
Fri May 16 2025 3:15 pm EST
If you look at Florida. They are fast and physical. They also have the size in the top-6 where you face the majority of the game. And I’m watching Bennett and that guy is gonna re-sign in Florida. Kills me that Calgary sold him for a 2nd. I was damn near screaming at the top of my lungs for the guy. And now? He is arguably the most disruptive player in the NHL. It was just in Calgary they wanted him to be more given his lofty draft position. They had no idea what they were getting rid of. Now? The guy I’m watching is Slavkovsky.
E
Fri May 16 2025 12:46 pm EST
Z leading Team Sweden with 4 goals in 4 games at the WC.
VtRanger
Fri May 16 2025 12:30 pm EST
NYStranger: Or big names that are over the hill or almost there.
rf4L
Fri May 16 2025 12:18 pm EST
Want to talk about what’s in their DNA? It is in the Rangers DNA to always go for the big names and NO SUBSTANCE. Like a Ferrari with an old lawnmower engine.
NYStranger
Fri May 16 2025 8:56 am EST
E exactly correct. Rangers are so far off from that it's not even funny..
vcp1994
Fri May 16 2025 12:23 am EST
Florida is quick and physical. It’s not about fights or anything. It’s just the way they get up on you. It’s super hard to let your skills show when there is no room on the ice. Have you seen how hard it is to get a cross ice pass off against Florida. If you cant make the goalie move and he is as good as he is? You just cannot win
E
Thu May 15 2025 10:22 pm EST
Glad ovi is out yippeee. Go oilers and knoblach stick it to Drury !!!!! Get that ring baby . Long way but on the way
vcp1994
Thu May 15 2025 10:14 pm EST
CAPS great regular season, after a good off season, buying into their new coach..and mkaing huge strides..but the talent level was/is just not there yet to the level of a Panther team they want to play like..That said, they are on the rise and will only get better next year.....As for the CAPS/CANES . possibly the most boring game and PO series I have seen in a while.. No interest whatsoever in watching the Canes and how they play..That said, they totally outplayed the Caps...
Hospo
Thu May 15 2025 9:31 pm EST
Totally expected a CAPS early exit in the playoffs (it's in their DNA). The CANES are also very happy they don't have to play us in the postseason (not kidding even a little).
Rhet0ric
Thu May 15 2025 8:55 pm EST
Caps over achieved in the regular season so for ne zero surprise they didn't go far. W8ll they digress next year??
rf4l
Thu May 15 2025 8:45 pm EST
There go the caps
rngrsans
Thu May 15 2025 3:05 pm EST
Yeah, passing on Kris KNOBLAUCH...not once...but TWICE..for Gerard GALLANT and then Peter "Oh it's not MY fault" LAVIOLETTE was a massive mistake and an epic miscalculation...And I never fully understood why...Like you could tell...the Pack really turned the corner when he came aboard...and then when he was thrust into the HC position when QUINN went down with the rona...and basically transformed the team overnight...that should've been the first hint right there to grab him when GALLANT predictably flamed out...I suspect DRURY's thinking was that he could sit on KNOBLAUCH for a couple more years until LAVIOLETTE either flamed out or retired, and then have him step in...but even a fool could see this guy was going to end up in the NHL, and it was a MASSIVE...and stupid...miscalculation to think he'd stick around while dipshit ran his course. At bare minimum, he should've forced the chinless wonder to take KNOBLAUCH as an assistant...he probably still would'a left, but maybe the Rangers could've gotten something for him.
tdchi
Thu May 15 2025 1:17 pm EST
Rhet0ric I appreciate your information. I’m sure you’re correct. However, until Domingues posts a breaking news video, I am just hesitant to believe it ……LOL
Drew
Thu May 15 2025 12:12 pm EST
td: Agree. I don’t think the big hulking center will go in the top 6, maybe not top 7 or 8. There are some solid players and if just one team goes off th e board a bit (usually one does) then those solid players will take up the top 6-7 spots. Guys with no risk, maybe less reward, but lower risks and NHL futures. But to fall to 12? I don’t see it. Would be ecstatic. Well…cautiously lol. Because if he falls that far that means some teams didn’t have doctors confident enough in his long term health. However. I could see Drury move up. The 12th and say Jones maybe gets them up a spot or two. Or maybe the 12th and Miller for a pick 2-3 spots higher and a 2nd or 3rd next year or this year even. You never know iq what teams are looking at value wise. Some teams have more draft capital and are trying to take a next step NOW. They may be willing to slide back 2-3 spots or more, to get a young top 4 D with size and skill. Don’t think then ducks with Q think they don’t have the right coach to squeeze a bit more out of him? How about Seattle who really wants to get better and make the playoffs. They are not concerned with the cup right now. They want to show they are improving and make themselves a regular playoff team. Miller could help there with that. Maybe Kreider is good with one of those teams, and he is the added part.
Wildcard
Thu May 15 2025 12:06 pm EST
I’m pulling for Knoblauch and the Oilers as well although I’d like to see Jim Nill get it in Big D too - a fantastic GM. To think DD passed on Knoblauch and Carberry to continue hiring retreads only to hire another this year. Comical and sad all at once
NCRanger
Thu May 15 2025 12:04 pm EST
R47 - lol. Remember, the Rangers ownership/management don’t play for cups. They play for the playoffs! Be interesting if Drury convinces Dolan to write his own letter next year after another failed season to CYA himself. Wouldn’t put it past him in the least. A grade A douchebag
NCRanger
Thu May 15 2025 12:01 pm EST
vcp: Me too. Plus in another 7 or so years we'll trade for some of their vets to win another Cup.....
Ranger47
Thu May 15 2025 11:41 am EST
So happy for Kris knoblach. I hope they win the CUP. What a story Drury passed and he gets a cup. Along with Paul coffee. Rooting for oilers they deserve it.
vcp1994
Thu May 15 2025 11:23 am EST
Actually, the 2017 draft is an interesting case study here...the obvious number 1 overall was Nolan PATRICK. He was a star in the making and, absent injury, was well above the others in his draft class...but missing half the season for mysterious problems? That was enough the Devils passed on higher ceiling to go with safer pick in HISCHIER...Flyers could've gone with PETTERSSON or MAKAR, who were both around HISCHIER's class, but went for the risk...and lost. Bad...but another guy who was supposed to go in the top five or six who dropped and dropped because of back injuries? Gabe VILARDI. Size, skill, talent...absent those injuries, there's a good chance the Rangers would've taken him instead of Lias ANDERSSON...and probably an even better chance that someone in the top six would've taken him...Potentially bumping MAKAR, PETTERSON or HEISKENEN down...Anyway...due diligence. I don't think McQUEEN will go in the top five, but I think someone will take that risk before 12th overall.
tdchi
Thu May 15 2025 10:52 am EST
TDCHI - Agree with RF4L, and neither of us are saying you need 12 forwards banging and just playing physical..What you do need is all 12 forwards buying into the system, phsyically competing in all zones, and not playing some the selfish stuff that gets by in the regular season......All that said, I do agree with you on your concerns with the Defensive personnel. and think the Rangers are in bad shape without a top shut down D-man which has players playing way above the talent level..and having too many marginal D-men that DRURY had his eye on
Hospo
Thu May 15 2025 10:51 am EST
Take McQueen if he drops, O’Brien, the physical D man if he’s there, or explore a trade up for Hagens if he’s there falls a bit (maybe Drury can call his good buddy Grier and swing a trade…even then doubtful I know. Grier might no bend him over quite as much). If those 4 options are gone I’d explore a trade down or out that could involve a first in next years draft which is said to be deeper
NCRanger
Thu May 15 2025 10:43 am EST
Reupping Shanahan would be absolutely insane. He's been there since 2014 and since then the Leafs have won but 2 PO rounds with essentially the same core. A big change is desperately needed and it should start with finding a new president.
rf4L
Thu May 15 2025 10:40 am EST
Also: Shanny has ties to Lemon Lou, who is still with the team, serving as an adviser(the gift that keeps on giving) :)
Rhet0ric
Thu May 15 2025 10:36 am EST
DREW.... He is in the final year of his deal(basically a show me contract at this point) and the The thinking is thst the LEAFS continued failure in the playoffs will be his undoing in TO. There is also some thought that the feeling is mutual. I guess we'll find out after the LEAFS season is over.
Rhet0ric
Thu May 15 2025 10:12 am EST
In regard to MCQUEEN: This is the something that has gone Horribly, Horribly wrong. Let's see if it causes him to fall out of the top 10. If so, I would still take him all day long. If the NHL ever did a study at just how many players had concussions before they hit the NHL, I'm sure we'd all be shocked at just how many.
Rhet0ric
Thu May 15 2025 9:20 am EST
Interesting article by Pronman on McQueen this morning: "Roger McQueen is the top prospect in the 2025 NHL Draft who will create the most debates for teams with an early pick. Standing at 6-foot-5, McQueen is exactly the type of player NHL teams dream of: a big, skilled center who can skate, has high-end skill and plays physical and is a right shot to boot. Before injuries disrupted his season in the fall, McQueen was viewed in NHL circles as a potential candidate for the No. 1 pick, especially after his scorching start to the season, where he scored eight goals in his first 12 WHL games for the Brandon Wheat Kings. What was even more impressive this season compared to previous ones was the edge he added to his play. McQueen was at times tentative before with a razor-thin frame, but this year, even after returning from a serious injury, he was highly physical and scrappy. He has a knack for getting to high-danger scoring areas and consistently demonstrates excellent puck skill and vision. He has the potential to be a first-line center in the NHL. “Players with his skill set are top-five picks all day long,” one NHL scout said. Another scout was even more explicit about McQueen’s value, stating, “On pure talent, he’s a top-three pick. He does what Anton Frondell does while being four inches taller.” However, the optimism surrounding McQueen comes with significant medical uncertainty. His most recent season was marred by a back injury, forcing him to miss extended time during the regular season. After returning briefly, he suffered another setback during the playoffs for Brandon, causing further concern among NHL evaluators. Back injuries are notoriously challenging for NHL teams to project, ranking alongside concussions as the most unpredictable health issues facing prospects. The recent experience with Cayden Lindstrom, selected fourth by Columbus in the 2024 NHL Draft, underscores these risks. Lindstrom had a similarly serious back injury, although NHL teams believe McQueen’s injury is less severe than Lindstrom’s at the same point. Lindstrom had a herniated disc in his back. McQueen’s injury is believed by some to be a bulging disc, although other sources claim it is a stress fracture, which is what McQueen has said in interviews. Despite mixed medical evaluations on Lindstrom — some teams’ doctors cleared him, while others hesitated and advised their clubs not to pick him. He just recently returned to playing for his WHL team after the back injury concerns started in the fall of 2023. An NHL executive bluntly summarized the dilemma, saying, “Our doctors’ opinions are going to be just as important as the hockey people’s.” What You Should Read Next Cayden Lindstrom, Blue Jackets’ No. 4 pick last June, makes triumphant return Cayden Lindstrom, Blue Jackets’ No. 4 pick last June, makes triumphant return After more than 13 months away from competitive hockey, Lindstrom played for Medicine Hat in Game 1 of the WHL Championship. In a survey of NHL teams about how they would approach McQueen, they often pointed to the question of the next best alternative. The class boasts several great center prospects, including Michael Misa, Anton Frondell, Caleb Desnoyers, James Hagens and Jake O’Brien or winger Porter Martone. These alternatives provide NHL teams with several players who are arguably as good or at least close enough. “It’s hard to justify taking McQueen top five or six,” one scout said. “There are some really good forwards at the top of this draft. Just take one of them — why risk your job?” An NHL executive echoed this sentiment: “When you’re picking top five, top 10, you need to get a player. You can’t afford to have the guy miss due to injury — that gets you fired.” Despite these legitimate concerns, McQueen’s upside remains undeniably appealing, especially once the top, safer prospects are off the board. As another NHL scout pointed out, the talent gap becomes substantial after the clear-cut elite players: “There is a drop-off — be it after five, six, or seven players, however your list goes. Once the no-doubters are gone, you have to start seriously discussing McQueen even with the risks. The drop-off from him to guys like Carter Bear, Justin Carbonneau, Brady Martin, etc., is pretty steep.” NHL teams will have to balance how difficult it is to find true first-line centers with the size, skill and edge McQueen offers. Passing on him might mean missing out on an impact talent who you can build a winner around. Conversely, picking him could lead to significant career risks for management if his injuries persist. This scenario creates an intricate risk-reward calculation balancing the hockey and medical information. In a 2025 draft class that lacks compelling storylines, McQueen’s draft slot and future may be the most fascinating. Who will roll the dice?"
rf4L
Thu May 15 2025 9:15 am EST
TD: Yes agreed that not every forward, especially the skilled ones, are gonna be pounding people all over the ice. That's fine IF they are producing offense. Those top 4, especially AM and MM, continually disappear in physical games. Nope, they don't hit much but in games like last night's they don't accomplish anything offensively either. I do concur (and I've been saying it for years now) that too much of the cap is consumed by 4 forwards at the expense of the bottom 6, the D and goaltending. Assuming they go out Friday, I suspect it'll mean no more Shanahan, JT and Marner...
rf4L
Thu May 15 2025 9:02 am EST
RF4L - While I won't sit back an suggest the dipsy-doodle bullshit by a guy like MARNER isn't part of the problem, I disagree that you need all your forwards to be blasting guys. It helps if everyone is playing that heavy game...but man, that's what your D is for. TANEV, McCABE and EKMAN-LARSSON with three hits...total. If your forwards are going to cruise back, you need your D to step up and punish...But again...this idea that you can ice a defense on the cheap is just ridiculous. The Leafs have drastically underinvested between the pipes and in the net. And it shows. No amount of hitting was changing the result of that game last night.
tdchi
Thu May 15 2025 8:50 am EST
Rhet0ric - shanny as isles GM?
Drew
Thu May 15 2025 8:18 am EST
TDCHI/RF4L - As the Leafs are showing and as the Rangers always show, against tough competition TEAM defense often goes to shit because of the play of the forwards, especially the top ones, be it through turnovers, no backchecking, E-W perimiter plays and unwillingness to compete in all 3 zones
Hospo
Thu May 15 2025 7:56 am EST
TD: The biggest failing for the Leafs isn't their D or their goalies - it's their top 4, especially Marner and Matthews, disappearing acts come PO time.
rf4L
Thu May 15 2025 6:54 am EST
Hospo. 4 hits in total last night from the $44,000,000 4some. Very much like the Rangers. Top forwards dislike the physical PO hockey.
rf4l
Thu May 15 2025 6:26 am EST
The thing I really don't like about the Leafs...and this is a caution to the Rangers...is their D. You look at it and while Morgan REILLY is the fleet-footed PP specialist...The rest? It's really not that good...Jake McCABE is a good second pairing guy. Chris TANEV and whatever is left of Oliver EKMAN-LARSSON are good bottom pairing guys. CARLO too. And BENOIT probably shouldn't be in the NHL. In short? Too much spending up front on offense, and not enough built in the back...WOLL isn't the best goalie, and neither is STOLARZ. They're backups at least a third of NHL teams. Maybe even half. And if you're going to do something like that...sort of what the Caps did...you HAVE TO invest in defense. You need a mean, big, hard-hitting corps, not the corpse or whatever it is the Leafs have: Old, slow, not particularly hard. Basically a bunch of space fillers. No one close to the likes of FORSLING, JONES or EKBLAD. Hell, even MIKKOLA is better than 80 percent of the Leafs' D. It's a major caution to flag as the Rangers mull what to do with MILLER and SCHNEIDER and look to be importing BORGEN and VAAKANINEN into their immediate future plans.
tdchi
Wed May 14 2025 11:16 pm EST
There are some rumors that BBrendan Shanahan may be the next NYI GM. His TO contract is up after this current season.
Rhet0ric
Wed May 14 2025 9:08 pm EST
It doesn't matter if it's Baseball, Basketball or Hockey, the 2-0 lead is my least favorite lead in all of sports. More often than not, it seems to come back and bite you in the ass. Quite often by the other team coming back and winning four in a row. At least that's the way it always feels. I would like to know the actual stats on it.
Rhet0ric
Wed May 14 2025 8:54 pm EST
I can’t believe that Mitch Marner would throw a blind back pass into center issue. I know to be a great goal scorer you need creativity but that was stupidity. Puck protection and getting the puck deep are paramount to winning in the playoffs. Plus once he loses the puck the guy he should have picked up scores. Dreadful Panarin never that bad.
Jake0104
Wed May 14 2025 8:50 pm EST
Somebody please lay out that cowardly punk DOMI..
Hospo
Wed May 14 2025 8:46 pm EST
Hospo: have seen rumblings that Malholtra has had multiple interviews. He may still land somewhere. But I think if not this year then next. His name seems to be right there. I thought for a bit Seattle, but word around here is they want a coach with some experience. Gallants name has popped up, Lavy…
Wildcard
Wed May 14 2025 8:43 pm EST
Hospo: the rangers are light years better in must win type games. Helll, last year they went to OT what, 4 times against Florida and only one game was won by more than one goal with that one having an empty net goal late. They at least are competitive in those big moments. The leafs don’t even look competitive at all. They stand alone in the level of folding under pressure.
Wildcard
Wed May 14 2025 8:41 pm EST
PJ: Same. I thought early on, even in this series “holy crap, this may finally be their year” but once again. With the chips down they don’t show up. And at this point you can’t blame the coaching staff. For how much rangers fans gripe about top players not showing up enough, at least they show up to get the rangers into the 3rd round….and once to the finals. The leafs struggle to get to the second round. If any team that is good in the regular season needs to blow it all up, it’s them. And I think the fans would get behind that. Shed off the top players who have failed, get assets and young players and spend a couple years setting a new core up.
Wildcard
Wed May 14 2025 8:39 pm EST
Leafs just like the Rangers..As a team, just not heavy enoungh nor mentally strong enough to beat a team like the Panthers...and the Top players just do not have the guts, hearts and balls to really win in the POs...so Ranger like...Just like the Rangers, they need to shed their core skin....If I was he Leafs I would make a huge offer sheet to CUYLLE to play with Knives...If I was the Rangers, I would do the opposite,..Cap be damned! :)
Hospo
Wed May 14 2025 8:33 pm EST
Once the Leafs are predictably eliminated, I’ll be fully onboard with an Oilers’ cup…even though that team totally deserves to lose for letting HOLLOWAY and BROBERG go…but yeah. As tortured as we all are as Ranger fans, at least we’re not Leafs fans.
tdchi
Wed May 14 2025 7:40 pm EST
Bye bye Leafs. I don’t want anyone in the east to hoist the cup
rngrsans
Wed May 14 2025 7:33 pm EST
I really thought the Leafs were a different team than previous playoff versions…They have not shown up tonight in a must game…Marner is a joke in the playoffs…That pass he just made on Panthers third goal was disgraceful….
PJ
Wed May 14 2025 7:16 pm EST
Man, if the Maple Leafs blow this series...I do wonder whether the next move they make is to trade Auston MATTHEWS.
tdchi
Wed May 14 2025 7:12 pm EST
There was someone out there "predicting" a "trade proposal" of ZIBANEJAD and a second rounder to the Bruins for future former first-ballot Hall of Famer Casey MITTELSTADT. I bring this up only because the CRAZY part about this is that it was written as if this might be a good deal for BOTH teams, and not the Rangers pumped harder than the porn stars in Backdoor Romance.
tdchi
Wed May 14 2025 4:38 pm EST
DREW.... The latest NYI BREAKING NEWS for you.....'SURPRISING Trade Incoming… Writer Reveals WILD Details Islanders News'(Islanders Digest).... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2VJYSyZcPo
Rhet0ric
Wed May 14 2025 4:21 pm EST
TOCCHET to coach the Flyers ..and Adam Foote to coach the Canucks..WAs hoping St. Manny would get the job in Van, but maybe in a few years for him....
Hospo
Wed May 14 2025 4:16 pm EST
hospo thats exactly what i have been saying for some time. JT MIller is a step in the right direction..but ZSOFT, Panrina, FOX, Kreider (now), even Laaffy will NEVER get it done
vcp1994
Wed May 14 2025 3:06 pm EST
We could possibly get a shot at a Bear or a Martin.
Rhet0ric
Wed May 14 2025 3:03 pm EST
If McQueen falls to us, something went horribly, horribly wrong on draft day.
Rhet0ric
Wed May 14 2025 12:44 pm EST
RF4L - In my scenario below, I was actually thinking about NESBITT too. He could end up being a big(ger) boy. Again, I think if we're going to go with someone like COOTES, I think we might as well explore what other teams will give us to trade up. In truth, it might be a better approach to this draft.
tdchi
Wed May 14 2025 12:41 pm EST
Here's a thought too: Offer the 12th overall to the Sharks for 28, 33 and 53...then draft Jack MURTAGH at 28th, William MOORE at 33 and see who drops for the last pick...maybe Will HORCROFF. If that happened, the Rangers would have three strong candidates for future centers...MOORE and MURTAGH could be finds in this draft.
tdchi
Wed May 14 2025 12:23 pm EST
FWIW the guy I like if kids like Martin, McQueen and O'Brien are gone is Jack Nesbitt of the Windsor Spitfires. He's drawing comparisons to Jamie Benn. Pronman has him going 26th overall to Nashville and if that's a reasonable projection it's not unfathomable to speculate about trading the 12th pick to move down a few spots then drafting him and adding perhaps another 2nd in doing so.
rf4L
Wed May 14 2025 12:16 pm EST
TD: I like Martin too but he is about the same size as Cootes so the same concerns about what happens when he goes up against men in the pros applies. Pronman has him going 8th to the Krackenmyass...
rf4L
Wed May 14 2025 12:01 pm EST
Allright RF4L, you're fired!...I 'll go with what TDCHI says On COOTES!..On third thought, we should draft JESSIMAN!
Hospo
Wed May 14 2025 11:59 am EST
Hospo - Yeah, COOTES doesn't share much with CUYLLE other than that they're both Canadian hockey players...the kid who would be along these lines...outside of size...is Brady MARTIN. He's another tossup pick...I think a bit of a reach at 12...probably more of a 15-16-17 pick...but he would check the boxes as a strong, physical center. Reminds me a bit of a low-rent Brayden POINT. Not as good of a skater or stickhandler as COOTES, but the type of guy who will take a shot, crash the net and then blast someone on the boards all within a couple seconds.
tdchi
Wed May 14 2025 11:52 am EST
Braeden COOTES would be a fantastic pick if we were in the 20s. But at 12? That's a stretch and a nice leap of faith. First, he plays in the WHL. Second, he's on the older side of 18, as silly as that sounds. Positives? He's a leader. Captain of his team at 17. Captain of Canada's u18 team. Hard to tell if his team is impacting his stats...but I don't see much about his game other than what was suggested...that he's a try-hard...to separate him from the pack. Looks like he's got a decent release, good speed and some moxie. But this is a guy who will likely max out at 195-200. My concern on him is that as soon as he starts playing bigger, stronger players, he'll end up struggling. The try-hardness will get him to the show. But beyond a bottom liner? And with little size? Not so sure. The guy who comes to mind for some reason is another Seattle Thunderbird the Rangers drafted: Ryan GROPP...If he IS the guy the Rangers want...and I have no reason to believe he is...They should DEFINITELY trade down, because if Pornman thinks all those guys are going before him, then this dude will DEFINITELY be on the board come 18, 19 or even 20.
tdchi
Wed May 14 2025 9:58 am EST
Hospo: Understood but alas, that futility has as much to do with the Rangers pathetic prospect development practices than their inability to recognize legitimate young talent. One can only hope that eventually changes.
rf4L
Wed May 14 2025 9:44 am EST
RF4L- I've given up on the futility of Ranger draft picks and care more about the present...but Cootes sounds a bit like CUYLLE or at least what CULYYLE has turned into..I could live with that...Not sure it matters though given who is in charge of the team
Hospo
Wed May 14 2025 9:22 am EST
In terms of names we've bandied about when it comes who to pick, all of them Pronman has being selected before the 12th overall pick, including Shitsburgh taking Kashawn Aitcheson, and O'Brien, Martin, Mrtka, McQueen going respectively 7th to 10th.
rf4L
Wed May 14 2025 9:19 am EST
IMO, there's nothing wrong with using the 12th overall pick to land a legitimate middle 6 centre although the bigger question is who else is available come the 12th overall pick.
rf4L
Wed May 14 2025 9:17 am EST
FWIW, Corey Pronman has posted his mock draft and has the Rangers picking Braeden Cootes at 12. Most pundits have him in the late teens early 20s BTW. Here's a quick analysis of what he brings to the table: "Braeden Cootes is a player NHL teams will have a lot of time for on draft day. What Cootes brings to the table is both obvious and projectable. He plays with absolutely relentless pace, both with the puck, and maybe even more so without it. It’s genuinely shocking the amount of energy that one player can expend on one shift. Cootes also has a lot of skill, giving him the ability to drive the middle of the ice off the rush. He’s got quick twitch hands, a hard shot, and a snappy release. Cootes also has some solid playmaking instincts, though they’re not put to particularly good use on this particularly poor Seattle team. Cootes’ ceiling might not pop off the page, but his combination of intensity and skill should propel him into an NHL middle-six role."
rf4L
Wed May 14 2025 9:13 am EST
BTW, it's part of why the Rangers in both final 4 appearances struggled to score.
rf4L
Wed May 14 2025 9:12 am EST
Hospo: Agreed. I said it 3 years ago when the Rangers went to the final 4 - they lack that umph from the core forwards.
rf4L
Wed May 14 2025 8:57 am EST
From watching games of all series, one thing the POs have shown is, thanks to Dipshit Drury, just how far away from a Cup contender the Rangers are..It's not jus that they aren't built to beat the Heavier teams but, more importantly, you can see how the Ranger's existing core and top players do not have the desire nor game to give all it takes every game or shift to win the prizes....Never have never will...JT MIller is a step in the right direction..but ZSOFT, Panrina, FOX, Kreider (now), even Laaffy will NEVER get it done....Not every single one has to go in one fell swoop but a drastic change has to be made...Well, IMWO....do the sorry, losing pair of of adorable friends Dru and Sully feel the same??
Hospo
Tue May 13 2025 6:46 pm EST
NCRanger absolutely correct!!
vcp1994
Tue May 13 2025 6:03 pm EST
Vcp - we can only hope. As long as DD doesn’t have Sather immunity. Otherwise we are fucked, and for a very long time mind you.
NCRanger
Tue May 13 2025 4:30 pm EST
Hospo the good news is , it's his last hire !!!! We hope lol
vcp1994
Tue May 13 2025 2:48 pm EST
Hospo: ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
rf4L
Tue May 13 2025 2:28 pm EST
RF4L - The only GM that would hire a has been out of touch recent loser like Laviolette is the incompetent Dipshit Drury..But, unfortunately for Lard Ass, Drury had made an even worse choice with his brother in recent ineptitude by hiring the woefully failing Sully..to the highest contract ever no less! And people can fu7ck Laviolette all they want. but the real reason for the destruction of the Rangers, their team, chemistry and organization was all on DRURY....and he he just repeated the same coaching hire mistake for the THIRD time!!
Hospo
Tue May 13 2025 2:17 pm EST
Any GM who'd hire Lardiolette will deserve the fate that will inevitably transpire. That dude is DONE!
rf4L
Tue May 13 2025 11:53 am EST
Bob - He stopped giving a shit in November. The end was when he benched KAKKO and forced that trade. He gave up after that. There may have been a slight pulse in him when MILLER came in, but he quickly checked right back out...Again...I can't even fathom a coach that stops coming in the locker room after losses. ESPECIALLY some of the lifeless losses the Rangers had. Dude, I would be in there tossing twigs like a game of pick-up-sticks and kicking field goals with the trash can...but even if you're not that guy...like you have to respond. And I'd love to say I was surprised, but this dude was going through the motions during interviews too. Terrible coach. Whatever axon and dendrite connected in his head to win a cup has clearly been severed permanently.
tdchi
Tue May 13 2025 11:49 am EST
Interestingly enough, I was watching Carolina's PP...which wasn't much better than the Rangers' PP last season...and the difference was almost immediate. There was movement. Guys were dropping low. There were players switching positioning. Like if you put this PP up against whatever the fuck it was LAVIOLETTE was rolling out..,if you just plotted the movements of players with dots and compared the two...I would've thought one was a beer league team and the other was an NHL team...that's how stark the deference was. The Rangers PP was so bad that basically, they sat in an umbrella with a guy posted up and winged shots. All you have to do to defend that is stay in a box and block shots. It's literally the easiest PP to short circuit...A FUCKING HIGH SCHOOL COACH COULD DO THIS...And yet LAVIOLETTE was this aggrieved party sabotaged by the big bad GM and his turncoat players...that motherfucker is stupid as the day is long. He is quickly rising the list of my most detested coaches. Tough to get to the top, with Ron Low, Trottier, Quinn and Tortorella blocking the path...but man, this flabby braindead suckhole is really making a go of it with his after-the-fact comments.
tdchi
Tue May 13 2025 11:01 am EST
I thought that Laviolette was hoping to get whacked. His lack of effort was obvious.
Bob
Tue May 13 2025 10:59 am EST
Has Utah hired Mike MILBURY? Or Peter CHIARELLI? Yeah, that's the only way they move HAYTON for KREIDER.
tdchi
Tue May 13 2025 10:59 am EST
In all seriousness Rhet - thanks for that post. So Laviolette huh? Maybe he'll come full circle and return to our favorite team out on the Island?
DREW
Tue May 13 2025 10:58 am EST
FUCK PETER LAVIOLETTE. Straight up. Fuck him. This is a guy who literally defied logic by doing the SAME. EXACT. THING. Over and over and over again. I can list the dumbass changes he made and why he made them. 1. Benching KAKKO. Why? Why not. 2. Benching JONES. Ibid. 3. Putting in new guys acquired via trade. Why? Well, who else is he going to put in. 4. Putting MILLER on the PP...and then not changing the approach...at all. Why? To quote Bluto from Animal House. Why not. And then my personal favorite: 5. Stop coming into the locker room after losses mid-season. That was it, folks. Those are ALL the changes he made as his team plummeted in the standings. I wish I could say he was sulking over trades, but the guys who came back? He played the shit out of them. This fucking imbecile gave up. That's what he did. He threw his hands up and essentially said 'if you're not gonna try, I'm not gonna try.' This flabby fucknut thought his one magical trip to the Conference Finals bought him a lifetime membership to the 'I-Don't-Give-a-Fuck' club. DRURY sure as shit didn't do him any favors...but this simpering simp basically dared DRURY to fire him. And at this point, I really struggle to see how he's a better coach than Gerard GALLANT, who was pretty terrible in his own rite. They're still no Dave QUINN, but that ain't saying much...You want to show the world the Rangers were an aberration in your coaching career??! Well, LAVVY, you better get ready to be an associate coach somewhere and glom onto a guy who is actually running his bench, because you suck. Bad.
tdchi
Tue May 13 2025 10:55 am EST
Rhet (TD) this is getting too easy (ridiculous) - we are trading Chris Kreider for Barrett Heisten Hayton.......https://youtu.be/tJlQwQgwh8k?si=KQpHlTlYYe-YQlVE
DREW
Tue May 13 2025 10:28 am EST
Is he blaming it on Drury? It sound like he's blaming it on Drury. You were the head coach man, put your big boy pants on..... "He wanted to show people that last year wasn’t on him, and it was bigger than just coaching,” Friedman said..... https://www.yahoo.com/sports/article/peter-laviolette-reportedly-eager-prove-192211588.html
Rhet0ric
Tue May 13 2025 8:23 am EST
I still maintain that the NJD's only drafted Stefan Matteau just to stick it to us..
Rhet0ric
Tue May 13 2025 6:52 am EST
Rhet - hahahahaha! Man all those URLs have me blinking like Darius Domingues on a breaking news video. I need to watch my head with all those URL drops.
DREW
Mon May 12 2025 8:39 pm EST
Just read Stefan MATTEAU retired...No, not THAT MATTEAU...but yeah...dude who was a GREAT example of talented player who was rushed into the NHL two maybe even three years before he was ready, and then floundered...had a friend who knew him and the dude even said he spent years after his first year with the Devils second guessing himself and just not having a clue on how to correct his career...the contrarian would say the dude wasn't that talented to begin with...and would be somewhat correct...he didn't have high-end skill...but he had wheels like nothing else and was just MEAN out on the ice. Loved to hit. Always wanted to see him in a Ranger jersey.
tdchi
Mon May 12 2025 7:43 pm EST
Not a fan of Carolina by any stretch, but man, I’d like to see scumbag Tom WILSON bounced.
tdchi
Mon May 12 2025 6:52 pm EST
Rhet0ric - Because I was on the fucking bar seat next to him...sigh...I see my attempt at a joke failed. Oh well. So much for levity.
tdchi
Mon May 12 2025 5:36 pm EST
DREW.... More BREAKING NYI NEWS..... Jon Cooper to NYI? .... https://dose.ca/2025/05/12/jon-cooper-to-lead-islanders-larry-brooks-discusses-the-idea/
Rhet0ric
Mon May 12 2025 5:16 pm EST
DREW.... BREAKING NEWS! ... https://www.lighthousehockey.com/2025/5/7/24425624/islanders-gm-search-continues .... https://nyihockeynow.com/new-york-islanders-nhl-news-ledecky-letter-lamoriello/. ..... https://www.nhl.com/islanders/news/new-york-islanders-ubs-arena-announce-multi-year-partnership-with-anthem .....https://www.yardbarker.com/nhl/articles/islanders_to_interview_lightning_exec_for_gm_vacancy/s1_14825_42172103
Rhet0ric
Mon May 12 2025 5:12 pm EST
TD.... How would you know? Were you there when it happened? Did the parent team make the announcement?
Rhet0ric
Mon May 12 2025 3:59 pm EST
Some rando Ranger news that is of mild note: the Wolfpack sign MINI-KRAPA(or KRAPA JR. if you would rather) to an AHL contract. Zakary KARPA is a bit of an enigma to me. He had a pretty good freshman year start, but never really developed any offensive prowess. He's been team captain for two years, has decent size, and is pretty good at faceoffs. Missed time with injury his sophomore year, but stayed in the lineup after that with a pretty piss-poor Harvard team...Part of me wonders whether he can be a bit like another late-round draft pick and former Harvard/Ranger alum who didn't really do much in college, but has eked out a pretty decent NHL career with shear hustle: Colin BLACKWELL...at any rate, this is a nice, somewhat unexpected development. We'll see if he can make the Pack or if he becomes another Max BARBESHEV and ends up in the E.
tdchi
Mon May 12 2025 3:36 pm EST
DREW - Ha! I'm ready for it!
tdchi
Mon May 12 2025 3:22 pm EST
Rhet - what were you doing with that bookmarked? There is no news like Islanders Ga-News
DREW
Mon May 12 2025 3:00 pm EST
DREW…. Some of the latest NYI news just for you(more to come)…… https://nyihockeynow.com/
Rhet0ric
Mon May 12 2025 2:59 pm EST
Rhet0ric - How do you know? Were you there? Maybe after one pint he said "I'm a RANGER!" And then after two, three and four pints, he was like 'meh...Immma ray...ray wut? Who-gers? CHRIS DRURY. YOU DON'T KNOW ME...." It was that sixth frothing pint of 3x Imperial IPA where he was like "Carolina?! Dats just cray enuf to work..."
tdchi
Mon May 12 2025 2:54 pm EST
Point.
Rhet0ric
Mon May 12 2025 2:53 pm EST
Mikko Rantanen apparently didn’t want to come here. He did at one pint but then changed his mind.
Rhet0ric
Mon May 12 2025 2:38 pm EST
Think inevitably the Rangers will always be a destination for star players and so unless you see something you know could be special, you draft NHL players who may have less upside but you know are gonna be a core member of your team.
E
Mon May 12 2025 2:30 pm EST
Chris Kreider click bait
Drew
Mon May 12 2025 2:30 pm EST
Rhet0ric, TD, et all - Rangers Digest….enough said - lol
Drew
Mon May 12 2025 2:05 pm EST
schneidw - every time I read 'trade proposal' my eyes roll...I guess this one is a bit more than others I've read on this site...but I have to ask: Why in the fuck would the Canadiens do this? SLAFKOVSKY might not have landed as quickly and been as impactful as the Canadiens liked, but I literally can't think of a reason why they'd do this unless they think his ceiling is actually lower than what he's been putting up. This kid could very well be the Slovakian answer to the TKACHUKS one day...I absolutely love LAFRENIERE, but if the Canadiens were offering this deal straight up? We would've been reading about it in the news yesterday because it would've been done. So chalk this one up to another level of lunacy among so-called pundits...
tdchi
Mon May 12 2025 11:29 am EST
Was just watching the news at lunchtime, I bounce back and forth between FOX and MSNBC. Yeah, I know that’s crazy, lol. Anyway, Kennedy on FOX, is apparently a NYR fan. She just said that NYR would have made the playoffs if they had a dman that could check like the NJ woman pol that got into the ICE kerfuffle recently. Then she called her - REMPE in a wig, haha. Pretty funny.
Limbo
Sun May 11 2025 9:28 pm EST
Panthers, especially their top players, playing Panthers hockey...Fucking Sam Bennett!!! I might hate Max Domi more than any player in the league..If he doesn't get suspended..love to see him get crushed the next game
Hospo
Sun May 11 2025 9:23 pm EST
Leafs waste great game from Woll…Panthers stifled them….Matthews needs to come up big in these games..Hardly noticed him….Leafs far too many penalties and it started right at the beginning….
PJ
Sun May 11 2025 9:05 pm EST
https://heavy.com/sports/nhl/new-york-rangers/insider-shares-trade-lafreniere-slafkovsky/
schneidw
Sun May 11 2025 9:05 pm EST
PJ- Knies, great point.. more reason Drury has hurt NYRs trading away 2nd round picks like they were meaningless
schneidw
Sun May 11 2025 8:51 pm EST
HMD Wiosa! Glad to see you're still with us(I mean after last season) or just in general too.
Rhet0ric
Sun May 11 2025 8:19 pm EST
Wiosa. HMD. Sorry about the Rangers.
rf4l
Sun May 11 2025 5:24 pm EST
Thanks for the Mothers Day Wishes 47 I'm not watching the playoffs this year. It's too depressing.
Wiosa
Sun May 11 2025 4:02 pm EST
I've seen one mock draft where Carter Bear fell to us and another which had Roger McQueen fall to us. It's hard to take some of these Mock Drafts serious. The is no way McQueen goes past six. Rumors are that the Flyers want him bad. That said, it still could be interesting with enough late risers.
Rhet0ric
Sun May 11 2025 1:00 pm EST
Happy Mother's Day to all the ladies on the Wall and to everyone's wives and Moms!
Ranger47
Sun May 11 2025 12:45 pm EST
RF73: I have seen a few mocks with the Rangers taking Mrtka. I wouldn’t be sad if they grabbed him there. I also would not shed a tear at all if they selected Kashawn Aitcheson either. I do have my guy that likely won’t fall far enough in Roger McQueen, but it’s not like any of them are guaranteed to make it or expected to be a bust. They all have aspects to their game that are needed in today’s NHL, all bring things that the Rangers don’t have a lot of in their system if at all. Will be interesting to see what direction the scouts go with their lists and the teams decision. About the pick staying or not.
Wildcard
Sun May 11 2025 5:36 am EST
The Athletic...Mock Draft 1.0: 12. New York Rangers: Kashawn Aitcheson, LHD, Barrie Colts I think the Rangers take a D here, and Aitcheson and Mrtka are the most likely candidates in this range. They’ve gravitated to the thorny pest types in the past with Brennan Othmann and Brett Berard, and the heavy hitters with guys like Will Cuylle and Matt Rempe. Aitcheson is both of those and then some as a rare throwback. Jackson Smith could be in the mix here, too, but he’s third in the consensus of those three right now.
RF73
Sat May 10 2025 10:47 pm EST
WOW, It looks like Vegas pulled that one out with like one second on the clock. Smith with the winner(3rd of the game). He had done nothing in the postseason prior to tonight.
Rhet0ric
Sat May 10 2025 10:45 pm EST
Wowow Reilly Smith hat trick with mcdavid getting an assist lolol 0. 4 second left a thriller.
vcp1994
Sat May 10 2025 9:41 pm EST
Reilly Smith 2 goals tonight. Who would have thunk it.
vcp1994
Sat May 10 2025 9:34 pm EST
The CANES with a big statement game against the CAPS and the CAPS reverting to their old CRAPPY selves. It's a series.
Rhet0ric
Sat May 10 2025 4:22 pm EST
Thought this before the playoffs, Toronto, with this coach, is good enough to win the cup as long as they are not betrayed by their goalies. After all, RF4L…..he really wants to go to a Stanley Cup parade!
Bob
Sat May 10 2025 3:49 pm EST
I agree the Leafs are giving as much as they are getting but Bobrovskys save percentage is .875
Jake0104
Sat May 10 2025 1:10 pm EST
rf4l-- Still a great experience .. sure he can learn a thing or 2 from Fleury and Binnington just being there
sjw
Sat May 10 2025 12:15 pm EST
Canada won their opening IIHF world championship game 4 0 and Dylan Garand got yhr SO. He only faced 11 shots but kudos to him nonetheless. MA Fluery and Jordan Binnington are the other goalies so he won't be getting much more opportunities to play however.
rf4l
Sat May 10 2025 10:12 am EST
On the Leafs/Panther series - that ratface Marchand playing so well it's like a double whammy for Leaf fans. He's despised around these parts.
rf4l
Sat May 10 2025 10:10 am EST
TD. Ahh the Staal trade. I didn't like it either because like you I thought Staal still was useful (and he was). Bad cap management on Squishface's part for sure. Funny on DeAturd. I started posting about his dumbass social media posts being a sore point for management and got criticized on here big time for it by some.
rf4l
Sat May 10 2025 8:43 am EST
Watching some of the Leafs-Panthers series, I don't think Florida is doing anything different than they normally do...And I don't think BOBROVSKY is playing much differently...but the thing the Panthers can't contend with seemingly is their opponent giving shit right back to them. BERUBE has the Leafs, for once, playing mean. Every play, I'm seeing a Leaf throwing cheap shots at the Panthers. Every time TKACHUCK raises his ugly mug, someone is throwing a fist into it. They're not worrying as much about BENNETT, but giving the shit he's giving right back to whatever Panther player is nearest. Florida was lucky to win that game. And while I never say never when it comes to the Leafs and underperforming, I definitely would say they have the decided edge in this series...and that's riding two goalies who aren't that good.
tdchi
Sat May 10 2025 8:37 am EST
The St. Louis Blues are a literal case study for how good coaching can change a team's fortune...BERUBE took a team that was massively underperforming and got them to overperform...AND win a cup...while I don't think the Leafs are overperforming, they're certainly playing closer to their potential than under any coach during the MATTHEWS-MARNER-NYLANDER era...TBH, I really don't fully understand why the Blues dismissed him...and I sort of wonder whether there was some back-channel shenanigans happening with MONTGOMERY dating back to then, because to dismiss him for a guy like BANNISTER seemed really strange...anyway, I digress...MONTGOMERY is the guy, though, I just so wish we could've gotten the last time he was a free agent...I think he always wanted to play in St. Louis, so chances are pretty good he would've done to the Rangers what he did to the Bruins, which was essentially quit on them...still...to have someone like that...
tdchi
Sat May 10 2025 8:27 am EST
I don’t recall ever seeing Bobrovsky play so poorly. Panthers lucky to be down only 2-1 glad I’m not a gambler
Jake0104
Sat May 10 2025 8:24 am EST
RF4L - Actually...Funny you mention the 2021 second rounder that was pissed away...because that wasn't traded to ADD a player, but rather subtract one...in fact, this episode was one of Jeff GORTON'S greatest failures as a GM...I mentioned how stupid it was at the time, and the general feeling on the wall was...'MEH'...but let me set the stage...It's September 2020 and the league had just awarded the COVID Cup. The Rangers had been on an improbably run using Dave QUINN'S patented three-headed-hydra model of goaltending, only to get bitch-slapped...bad...by the Carolina Hurricanes in the summer play-in for the playoffs...The Rangers had two players they needed to get under contract, and neither one of them had even a remote future with the Rangers...one was Alexander GEORGIEV, coming off his entry level deal, and the clear second, and even arguably third best goalie on the team...with ABSOLUTELY no future with SHESTERKIN already showing he was NHL-worthy...the other was Tony DeANGELO, who was already creating problems for the Rangers PR team and again, had POSITIVELY no future with the Rangers trading for and signing Adam FOX...The right move IMMEDIATELY after the COVID season ended was to trade BOTH of these fucks. BOTH were overrated. BOTH had no future. BOTH needed to be moved...so what did GORTON do instead? He traded Marc STAAL. The guy who was definitely overpayed at $5.7 million, but was still a very viable NHL defenseman. Easily a third-pairing guy with second pairing upside. He was of use to the Rangers AND was a veteran presence AND only had a fucking year left on his contract...Same with Henrik LUNDQVIST. There's no doubt Hank wouldn't have like playing second fiddle to SHESTY...but...He was the PERFECT goaltender to shoulder half the load while he got a bit more acclimated. But instead? GORTS paid Detroit...I can't even believe this...a SECOND-FUCKING-ROUNDER to take STAAL. Again, I was, perhaps, the only guy here incredulous over this deal. Everyone else? MEH. So where did his salary go? $4.8 million went to TURD. And the $3.5 million saved in the putridly classless, completely unnecessary LUNDQVIST buyout? Well most of that went to paying GEORGIEV's $2.4 million salary...so to recap, the Rangers made two incredibly stupid moves to keep two players with no future...the icing on the cake was when they got in a fist-fight...And in the end...if they had just kept the veterans and dealt away these two twerps, the Rangers would've 1. gotten SOMETHING from DeANGELO; 2. likely gotten MORE from GEORGIEV; 3. NOT had to endure a $5 million and then $1.5 million cap hit from the LUNDQVIST buyout since he retired; 4. let a Rangers' legend retire without touching another NHL jersey and yeah, let's now add 5. Could've drafted Matt KNIES at 48th overall. And he won't be the only one that they passed on with that ludicrously stupid maneuvering by GORTON...BROZ will be an NHLer. Colton DACH already is. JJ MOSER is too. So is Sam HELINIUS. KOIVUNEN is too...In closing...I said this before and I'll say it again: As good a GM as GORTON is/was...his last two years with the Rangers was dreadful. MILBURY-esque. He fucked this team bad.
tdchi
Sat May 10 2025 7:49 am EST
Gene. Yeah. Most likely.
rf4l
Sat May 10 2025 7:42 am EST
Rf4l: Had the Rangers drafted Kneiss he would still be laboring on the fourth line ,maybe third at best. Rangers have too much talent to elevate this guy to the top six. Ha
gene_carr
Fri May 9 2025 10:27 pm EST
Knies becoming beast like. Drafted 57th overall. Rangers pick if they'd kept it well before. No 2nd rounder that year. Dumb ass strategy of flitting away picks for little or no return is yet another reason it's 85+ years...
rf4l
Fri May 9 2025 10:00 pm EST
PJ hilarious. Yep Coloradomark, drew. We should start our own podcast lololol. At least we won't publish BS information like Dominguez.
vcp1994
Fri May 9 2025 9:43 pm EST
Knies…
PJ
Fri May 9 2025 9:43 pm EST
Knows is only 22….A keeper for sure….Size that he uses and skilled….They will hang on to him for sure…
PJ
Fri May 9 2025 9:39 pm EST
Not much puck luck for the Leafs on the Panther goals..They played well…Hate seeing the rat Marchand score the winner…
PJ
Fri May 9 2025 9:35 pm EST
Drury needs to sign Knies to an offer sheet…
steve443c10
Fri May 9 2025 9:21 pm EST
Yes it was great meeting all of you…Thanks vcp…Next meeting need to know what you think of Fox….LOL….
PJ
Fri May 9 2025 8:55 pm EST
VCP, ColoradoMark, PJ that was fun - we are definitely going to do that again. Thank you VCP!
Drew
Fri May 9 2025 8:37 pm EST
Wallsters - Thanks to VCP, we had a great Zoom call with Drew, PJ, VCP and myself! Really need to do this regularly. It was fun!
ColoradoMark
Fri May 9 2025 7:42 pm EST
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vcp1994
Fri May 9 2025 7:37 pm EST
PJ Join the zoom
Drew
Fri May 9 2025 7:28 pm EST
Marner needs his ass kicked for that pathetic backchecking….Leafs go up two goals and quit playing..
PJ
Fri May 9 2025 7:02 pm EST
https://us04web.zoom.us/j/78215264531?pwd=F1GMH8GrwSmonSiXC1qXdjnhybrRa1.1
vcp1994
Fri May 9 2025 7:02 pm EST
yep wating
vcp1994
Fri May 9 2025 7:01 pm EST
will wait 15 min LOL
vcp1994
Fri May 9 2025 7:01 pm EST
VCP, col mark are we live?
Drew
Fri May 9 2025 6:08 pm EST
I am rooting for the LEAFS but a 2-0 lead is a LOOOOONG way from winning a series.
Rhet0ric
Fri May 9 2025 6:02 pm EST
8 pm EST https://us04web.zoom.us/j/78215264531?pwd=F1GMH8GrwSmonSiXC1qXdjnhybrRa1.1 if needed Meeting ID: 782 1526 4531 Passcode: 8qcfVb
vcp1994
Fri May 9 2025 5:52 pm EST
In the end it’s about the $$$$ and Anaheim needs them. And Queneville knows how to win. And just like the crap that led to this mess to begin with ultimately it’s about winning. And that’s the sad truth of it
E
Fri May 9 2025 5:51 pm EST
The team in the playoffs impressing me is the Leafs..Berube to Toronto and Montgomery to St Louis has helped both teams…This isn’t the Leaf team from prior playoffs…They can play D and aren’t taking any shite from the Panthers….Far more pressure on the puck from this Leaf team….
PJ
Fri May 9 2025 5:02 pm EST
RF4L - BOTH. And I'd say almost equally. They were in the room it became known their was a problem. QUENNVILLE was the one who basically said 'not now, we have a cup to win...'
tdchi
Fri May 9 2025 4:35 pm EST
So a good coach can help a talented team. Example look at the oilers and knoblach. The guy genius DD passed over because he likes the good old boys club of coaches. How many mistakes are his quota? Doing 10 things right and 10 wrong doesn’t make him a good gm or a good leader.
Stevielegs
Fri May 9 2025 4:14 pm EST
Rhet0ric - 100 percent agree on QUENNVILLE. I seriously have no idea how a team is that tone-deaf to hire a dude like that...I know I wouldn't want to play for him.
tdchi
Fri May 9 2025 4:11 pm EST
Who's guiltily? Stan Bowman or Joel Quennville?
rf4l
Fri May 9 2025 3:28 pm EST
ANYONE...and I mean ANYONE...who thinks Joel QUENNVILLE should be coaching anywhere on the planet...please, please, PLEASE read the report at the end of this post. There's always a degree of haze in matters like this...taking one account over another...disputes of facts...et cetera. But in this instance? One FACT that is NOT debatable is this fuckface's role in pushing what was a serious allegation of wrongdoing down a fucking blackhole of acknowledgement. QUENNVILLE was at the head of the table when the Hawks decided to address what had become common knowledge among most of the team...and his reasoning? We gotta win the Cup...Now folks? I get it. I get this burning desire to be part of history. But these assholes...QUENNVILLE among them...didn't lift a finger to even remove Brad Aldrich from the team, or block his access...not just for the playoffs and the cup finals...but FOR THREE FUCKING YEARS. They got his name on the cup. They gave him a cup ring. They let him have the cup for a day. This fucking sexual predator. Even AFTER THE FACT, this morally bereft coach couldn't bring himself to address what happened. And because of that? A 16-year-old kid got molested by this guy. That shit is DIRECTLY on QUENNVILLE, his staff and the Hawks. And then the NHL has the absolute audacity to re-instate this fucker? And the Ducks to hire him? I hope that team burns. I hope they never fucking touch the cup again. That's how insane this is. He allowed a coach under his watch to prey on young players AND Blackhawks staff...let him freely circulate with the team...SENDING DICK PICS TO PLAYERS...right up until he got fired for grabbing the crotch of a 22-year-old intern. And the ONLY reason he DID get fired, was because the intern was incredulous about it...EVEN THEN...the Hawks never said a word about the guy...just let him continue using his position to solicit young players for his sexual gratification. I'm sure if you could pull this troglodyte aside back in 2010, he probably would'a said something like 'Kyle's a big boy and can take care of himself if he wants to...' Probably would do some form of victim blaming...I wouldn't let this asshole coach my fantasy team. I hope someone in Anaheim grows a fucking conscience and reverses this atrocity of a hire...I love hockey...it's in my blood. But it's a sport. And there's no sport worth the lifetime of anguish this fuckfaced dildo let transpire by shoving all this behind a veil of secrecy...disagree? Well here's some reading: https://www.jenner.com/a/web/8kmbgFUEYWcNnvzFTa5h8H/report-to-the-chicago-blackhawks-hockey-team-october-2021.pdf
tdchi
Fri May 9 2025 3:15 pm EST
So ..MILLER the 2nd important young Ranger D-man that needed surgery..Hope for a 100% recovery for him and SCHNEIDER (Labrum)..These two are sooo, ahem, key.(and I agree that K'andre needs to stay)....but, here's the one injury news or non-news that bothers me.....No surgery for FOX needed?? so, he wasn't imparied by injury last year?..His much slower and weaker play was a result of what then? Declining? Apathy? Not woring hard enough? I've said many times, if not injured he's is a guy that needs to do EVERYTJING in the offseason to get stronger and quicker...if possible...Yes. Fox's cerebral play will be better with a better team around him but physically he needs to improve big time
Hospo
Fri May 9 2025 3:08 pm EST
E - Was thinking the same about Edmonton..and it makes one ponder how big and heavy (like FLA, Wash, Vegas) do you have to be to win today...Edmonton is showing it varies but the common denominator is the 2-way grit to go with speed.....Which brings me back to the Rangers where i think Sully favors the smaller less physical but still postionally gritty types (and why i think we may have a totally dfferent 4th line than Remps-Carrick-edstrom which will be a shame and quite boring
Hospo
Fri May 9 2025 2:35 pm EST
BTW: It went by the wayside, but David Carle signed an extension with DU yesterday. I guess he's still not ready for the NHL.
Rhet0ric
Fri May 9 2025 2:23 pm EST
Edmonton is a great case example of how you need fast, mobile, and physical grit and grind to throw around your skill guys. They look pretty complete right now. As a hockey product this playoffs has been great. However, given the markets? Im not sure the NHL is as happy.
E
Fri May 9 2025 2:15 pm EST
I think you gotta re-sign Miller. You gotta develop your younger players. And while he is at the far end of that development window and no doubt he has stalled and in fact regressed a bit he is not far away from putting it all together. So, yeah I like a prove it deal a lot. I also dont know the nature of the injury in terms of potential long term recovery or recurrent symptoms so thats gonna play a role. In reality, you gotta feel for Miller a bit. Hes coming into that part of the career when he could start making real money and the wheels just came off this season. And when a team is losing all your issues get exposed even more. He is really one of the more compelling offseason stories. I think you gotta get him under a short term and give him the flexibility to earn and give the team the flexibility to cut bait.
E
Fri May 9 2025 1:47 pm EST
K'Andre Miller underwent successful surgery to fix an undisclosed upper body injury today. He sustained the injury near the end of the season and in-season rehab on it did not work. He Is supposed to ready at or near the start of the season..... In regard to the SALARY CAP: To me, if you re-sign MILLER, you re-sign him to a 1-year show me deal. Maybe $4.7-$4.8 Mil... That would allow you to get everyone under contract for the coming season and give SULLY an opportunity to get to know all the players before we get rid of anyone.... In regard to KREIDER: He and Sully of way back and it makes me also wonder if it prevents hims from being moved right away. Maybe he even gets a second life.
Rhet0ric
Fri May 9 2025 12:19 pm EST
Gotta say I am really impressed with Edmonton and how gritty their role/support players (who are not huge) are playing..Taking two in Vegas was big
Hospo
Fri May 9 2025 11:19 am EST
ColoradoMark - yes!!!!
DREW
Fri May 9 2025 10:18 am EST
“Sean Avery? THE Sean Avery, the romance noveleest? I Reed ALL your Boooks! Knohm een! Kohm een!” Lololol. https://nypost.com/2025/05/09/sports/ex-ranger-sean-avery-embracing-second-career-as-steamy-romance-novelist/
NYStranger
Thu May 8 2025 10:08 pm EST
20 years old OMG so not a tweener. Just sickening I don't have the words for predators other than they should be removed from the world.
vcp1994
Thu May 8 2025 8:59 pm EST
VCP I am also a flosser for the last 27 years. My first 30 I was pretty negligent and now all the early dental work is falling apart. It’s Game of Thrones in my mouth with all the crowns! Surgery today to try and allow for an implant!
ColoradoMark
Thu May 8 2025 8:57 pm EST
VCP - Beech was 20 when it happened. I’ll look for a link here. I’m liking I’ll get to meet fellow Long Island guy, Drew!
ColoradoMark
Thu May 8 2025 8:32 pm EST
I am an avid flosser I like my teeth.
vcp1994
Thu May 8 2025 8:31 pm EST
My only comment about the sexual abuse i would say is that I would have used the utmost physical violence including a bat ,pipe or other device to make sure the abuser had no jaw or teeth for life. How old was this kid when this sickening thing occurred? I really can't get my head around someone doing this. And or covering it up
vcp1994
Thu May 8 2025 8:26 pm EST
Ok coloradomark... So far that's 2 you and Drew !!! 8 pm EST
vcp1994
Thu May 8 2025 7:18 pm EST
The NYR's and the 12th Pick... We've had Marc Staal with the 12th.... and then we've also seen Hugh Jessiman, Pierre Jarry and Wayne Dillon (Not counting Dave Gagner because he barely had cup of coffee with us). Do you think Drury is more capable of drafting the former or the latter? The Pens would have back-to-back picks if we give them this years 1st. Yeah, that ain't happening. Drury needs to get his head our of his sphincter and make a quality pick.
Rhet0ric
Thu May 8 2025 7:16 pm EST
I’m recovering from dental surgery (Sinus lift for an implant! Floss, youngsters! Floss!), so slept most of the day as I was put out for the surgery. (VCP- I might be up for the Zoom call). So I’m starting to read and thought I read something about why Gorton and JD were fired. Maybe I am missing something, but I remember the events as this: Punk Wilson had his moment and embarrassed the Rangers. Dolan was pissed when Wilson wasn’t suspended. The Rangers released a statement condemning the dept of player safety. Reports that I read, nothing ever confirmed that I remember, but Dolan asked Gorton to release the Statement and he refused. Dolan asked JD to fire Gorton. JD refused. Dolan sacked both. I know some believe Drury was begging this coup, I guess I don’t buy it based on Dolan’s personality. But I do t get the Dolan was not happy with the pace of the rebuild narrative? Am I missing something from my memory or are the meds messing with me?
ColoradoMark
Thu May 8 2025 7:05 pm EST
Hospo I’m looking for DD to be a leader. I’m going to my eye doctor for help. I wonder who decided to make him a captain when he was playing . I still hope he enjoys Christmas even if msg gets closed for a while because they are following his lead.
Stevielegs
Thu May 8 2025 6:59 pm EST
In regard to SULLY: There was some subtext in today's presser. Hew was tasking some subtle (and not so subtle) digs at prior GM Kyle Dubas. Duybas has been trying to get rid of him for the past couple of years(at least). He's wanted to bring in his own guy. GM's and their ego's. The PENS also had the worst defense they've had in the last 10 seasons. I'm not saying SULLY was intentionally sabotaged, but it kind of felt like it.
Rhet0ric
Thu May 8 2025 6:50 pm EST
TD.... In regard to Joel Quenneville: I agree with you 1000%, Fuck Joel Quenneville! This POS should not be allowed anywhere near another team. When asked about the Kyle Beach assault, Quenneville said ‘I have learned from my prior mistakes’... Are you kidding me? F-K you dude. You clearly don't know right from wrong, there was nothing for you to learn. Sorry for the mini-rant.
Rhet0ric
Thu May 8 2025 5:33 pm EST
JFC – OK, you got me! first things first, Drury's personality and communication with the media/fans mean nothing to me.. Only thing that matters is his performance (horrible) which includes how he handles his players and locker room..Plain and simple, he made mistakes and judgement errors which had a huge negative impact on the team and organization.………. That said, that's a whale of a behavioral analysis!!!!!...Can't say I agree with it one bit.............especially after just watching some of his old interviews and speeches including his induction into the US Hockey HOF (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzrAo5ssFok ) where there was quite a bit of emotion (especially his take on Travis Roy) and sharing, at least for him….But it's also obvious he's not comfortable showing emotion for others to see, being a joker or ad libber or the star or funny uncle or non stop smiling up there...Just a different personality,,,I can relate, I share some of those charactertsitcs (and if he’s like me, he might have a little OCD!) and I've also given over 200 presentations and am the same way---doing a job, no mistakes, no lime light and just wanting off the stage compared to others who just control the room with their personality and need for attention...That's not Drury, simple as that...Now, As far as recent "callous" handling of players, I think him not saying much is just him being him...doing his job and not having or wanting to tell everybody about it...I have zero problem with that...I justt think he made the wrong decisions...totally missed the boat on the impact of his handling of Troubs, Goodie and Kreider...again, performance, not style or personality….But I must admit, letting the stuff go public with Troubs as well as the trade letter for kreids just seems out of character and/or huge mistake that I bet he regrets…..Oh well. Not a psychoanalyst but I do play one on the Wall! ????
Hospo
Thu May 8 2025 5:20 pm EST
JFC - I’ve been saying this for awhile. He is most def in on some spectrum level. Zero empathy or authenticity, and or enthusiasm. The 3 things that make up good professionals in my line of work. Add to that, no humility and/or sincerity. He hides from the public eye/view. It’s not a coincidence that cameras aren’t on him at MSG. I can only imagine how he negotiates with other GM’s.
NCRanger
Thu May 8 2025 4:52 pm EST
And as for Lafrenière, it really is amazing to see the whiplashed, knee-jerk reactions to this kid. 3 years with no PP time and playing on the 3rd line…the on,y #1 overall to not have a PP goal in the 1st 3 years of his career…that is INSANE forma kid with his talent. Look, I’m sick and tired of defending this kid…and yeah, his season was a HUGE disappointment and big part of it is on him. But to go,from 3 years of HE’S A BUST, to HE’s AFRIVED after 57 points and being their best player in the PO’s and now back to HE’S A BUST is stupid as hell…and I’m not aiming this at anyone here on The Wall, im talking about social media in general. Chris Kriedernhad his 1st season iver 57 points at age THIRTY-ONE! Lafrenière did it at age 22 with no PP time. Did his season reek? After the fact that he still did well at 5v5, yeah, it reeked. But, to take a season after he was a PO star toma season where the ENTIRE TEAM REEKED and use it as an excuse to talk about trading him is WHIPLASH of the highest order. Drury signed him to an extension because he wants players who are built for the playoffs. One bad season at age 23 doesn’t change that. He got a gritty edge, he gets a very good amount of hits every year and before coming to this asshole team, he was always known as a leader and a guy who raised his game depending on its importance. He showed the latter very clearly in last year’s playoffs. They should let him show the former this coming season. Give him an “A”! Let him rep the young gun faction of this team and watch what happens when you empower his strengths. And for bid damn sake, at least if you aren’t gonna put him on PP1, then make 2 good PP units and let them compete for ice time. If he doesn’t get extensive PP time, he will NEVER reach his potential….NEVER! It’s a fucking sick joke that we’re still talking about that. And I’m sick of the excuses about him being unfortunate to have gone to an established team which caused the issue. Why is always the RANGERS that have this idiotic shit happen. When Quinn was here, the was NO FUCKING EXCUSE not to have him, Kakko & Chytil in every possible position to succeed…and Gorton didn’t do a fucking thing to change it so fuck him, too!
JFC31
Thu May 8 2025 4:37 pm EST
For those of you who can’t stand Drury’s “personality”, wonder why he doesn’t give out info and isn’t talking to reporters…did you see this press conference today? Add that onto his other media appearances and what do you see? This guy is completely uncomfortable in front of crowds…and not uncomfortable in a, “I’m not good at pub,ic speaking way.” He’s uncomfortable in a pathological way. He seems unable to smile and he almost speaks in a monotone voice…a voice that lacks emotion. I’m no expert, but my guess is that he is on the autism slectrum…and that would explain a lot. Look, this guy has been in the spotlight since age 13 when he won the LL World Series. He’s won a Cup, he’s been a Captain. For him to look so completely u comfortable and basically stone-faced after all the exposure he’s gotten through his life speaks volumes. It would also explain why maybe he doesn’t take players’ feelings into account when he does stuff…why he insulted Kravstov, why he didn’t think about what would happen if Trouba & Kreider found out he wanted to trade them…because he lacks empathy…to him, feelings don’t come into play. The guy seems unable smile and it’s not normal. Look, if I’m right I’m not bashing him. In fact, being non-empathetic can be advantageous in many situations….treating things always like they are business and not personal can prevent things you see with other GM’s who hold on to stars far too long even if it’s detrimental to the team. A person who has an inability to be empathetic wouldn’t give a shit and do,what has to be done. IMO, Drury is one of these people,and that’s why you see very little of him and when you do, it’s like listening to and seeing a robot…no feelings shown. Today was a perfect example…he’s telling a nice anecdote about Sullivan being good to him when he was scared of failing when he came out of college….and even when he was telling that story, his tone was dead and so was his facial expression. Sorry, when telling a story like that, most people,would be more animated and the gratitude in his voice & face would match the gratitude expressed in the story.
JFC31
Thu May 8 2025 3:47 pm EST
Sorry TD, but I gotta disagree with you on Laffy not being invited to the Worlds (assuming he did not decline an invitation). It speaks volumes. Up until the mid-way point of this season, I've always gone out of my way to defend Laffy. Not now. None of the comparable Rangers you cited were 1st overall picks. For a guy with his pedigree and experience, to not be invited to play for Canada is pathetic and embarrassing. Now the real question is whether to blame the Rangers or Laffy himself for his predicament. I still heap the majority of the blame on the Rangers. As I've said before, you can't take an elite talent like Laffy and bury him for multiple years within a squad full of talented veteran players. The development window that exists for players during the ages of 18 to 22 remains critical. Taking a best in the world player and not continuing to play him as a best in the world player runs the grave risk of squashing critical development that he may never recover from. Thankfully, nearly all top picks start their careers with shitty NHL teams that need to play them extensively. Laffy (and Kakko) had the unfortunate and unusual experience of joining a successful veteran team right off the bat. We discussed this recently when contrasting Stutzle and Laffy. I blame the Rangers for most of Laffy's predicament, but this year he also seemed to quit at times and was often lazy. The Rangers created the problem and he is now running with it. I hope he wakes up this summer.
VtRanger
Thu May 8 2025 3:10 pm EST
RF4L - But, for the past 7 years he has iced the same exact type of team to no avail...And, yeah, sometimes a coach just has to deal with what he he is given..but if any coach would have the "weight" to have a say in personnel you would think it would be SULLY coming off his two CUPS so I think much of the roster has been of his design.....We'll see....but I will mention one caveat...He will finally have his first good NHL goalie since the best days of Murray around 2019/2020..Hope that makes a difference
Hospo
Thu May 8 2025 3:08 pm EST
As for the Worlds and LAFRENIERE, I wouldn't read too deeply into any roster decisions. Even if he wasn't asked, there may be other reasons for it unrelated to his play. Not gonna sugarcoat his poor season...but getting snubbed from the Worlds isn't a deal breaker. I mean, FOX and MILLER didn't get a spot with US. Neither did MILLER. Neither did TROCHECK...Just to flipside this thing, Nick BONINO was pulled into the Worlds the year DRURY stupidly signed him as our third-line center...and to put it mildly? He was done. Toast. History. Shit, he looked it in that tourney. He looked it in the goddamn SEASON. And yet he got an invite and then a contract...and then retired six months later...so pump the brakes on the LAF-is-a-bust bus.
tdchi
Thu May 8 2025 2:19 pm EST
RF4L - Man, I tell you what: I wouldn't hire Joel QUENVILLE to scrub my toilet. The fact the NHL is even letting that guy coach again is a little disappointing. Like you knew the video coach was taking sexual liberties with one of your rookies and you did WHAT? Turned the other way? Buried it all? Fuck him. Dude hasn't coached in the NHL in three years for a reason. Might be the modern version of Scotty BOWMAN. I still wouldn't hire him. Zero fucking moral compass.
tdchi
Thu May 8 2025 2:17 pm EST
Hospo: Let's hope that the main reason for Sullivan having the team he had for the past several years is due to ownership meddling and refusing to let management do a teardown, something they should have started 4 years ago via trading Malkin and Letang and NOT trading for the overpriced overrated Karlsson. I've no doubt that ownership played a significant role in the continuing rolling back essentially the same lineup for the past 4 years and that included often trading away assets (re picks).
rf4L
Thu May 8 2025 2:15 pm EST
Good for CUYLLE! LAFFY not invited or making it is a good thing..hopefully the motivation he needs to get back on track....and he can fit in with any linmeates he ends up with
Hospo
Thu May 8 2025 2:12 pm EST
TDCHI - Although I hate the SULLY choice..Been saying since the start that the only way it has a chance is if the two buddies are on the same page....but, like you said, what is that page??? ..........."but DRURY is going to get the players who SULLY wants...and SULLY is going to play the game DRURY wants to play.."..Those two don't necessarily go hand in hand....From all the chatter from the last year one is lead to believe that DRURY wants a tougher, meat and Pototoes squad...Is that true? Becasue OTOH, SULLY has never skated that type of team, his teams have been much more soft, skilled, vet driven Ranger like...Is that what we will continue to see more of ...or from his last 7 years of failure does SULLY adapt to what DRURY MIGHT want? We'll see in another month or so..
Hospo
Thu May 8 2025 1:46 pm EST
They already gave Laffy the fat Cat his money ....he will be on holiday as they say up north
tradestar28
Thu May 8 2025 1:44 pm EST
FWIW I'd rather have Queenville vs Sullivan.
rf4l
Thu May 8 2025 1:44 pm EST
Cuylle and ...surprise.. Garand named to Team Canada...Laffy left off speaks to the work he needs to do to ...
sjw
Thu May 8 2025 1:21 pm EST
I mean, there's nothing you're going to learn from this sort of stupid presser that you already didn't know. SULLY isn't going to tip his hand, and neither is DRURY. Perhaps the most critical point here is this expounding on the relationship between SULLY and DRURY...that it's been years in the making, dating back to DRURY's college career...and I wouldn't doubt that one of the reasons the Pens started sniffing around him several years ago had some of SULLY's input, if not more direct intervention...that's really the one grain of news here: These guys know each other well. They've WANTED to be together for some time. They are on the same page...now...whether that is a page conducive to winning is a completely DIFFERENT subject...but DRURY is going to get the players who SULLY wants...and SULLY is going to play the game DRURY wants to play...this is a good thing. It's the only way these two guys stand a chance of getting to the finish line...I also think that if they fail? If there are two or three years of floundering? Both of these guys will be out on their rears. It's the only bonus of SULLY getting paid ridiculous money and DRURY getting extended...there are going to be HIGH expectations. DRU is out of excuses. Officially.
tdchi
Thu May 8 2025 1:08 pm EST
Stevielegs - I think I'll have to change my name! DRU? No bueno.
DREW
Thu May 8 2025 12:40 pm EST
Rf4L - Well, they have to set the stage for what promises to be a boring team this coming year,,just like the one SULLY iced in PITT (maybe the most boring team in the NHL) the last 7 years, especially the last 4!!!
Hospo
Thu May 8 2025 12:09 pm EST
What a boring press conference that was.
rf4L
Thu May 8 2025 11:55 am EST
A new coach, a new pope, but not a new gm is not a hat trick
Stevielegs
Thu May 8 2025 11:18 am EST
Watching the Mike Sullivan press conference this morning, I hear Chris Drury talk and my first thought was "who is that?" I didn't recognize the voice right away because we never hear the guy speak :)
Rhet0ric
Thu May 8 2025 11:18 am EST
Quennville just as much a has been and recent loser as SULLY..Just like the great SULLY..couldn't win a PO round in his last 7 years..and while HOF SULLY missed the POs for the last 3 years...Quenville missed them once and was fired twice!..and he has the baggage....SOme teams like the Ducks and Rangers just don't get it and will continue to be Cup insignificant for the next 5 years..But hey, Sully and Dru are good buddies!
Hospo
Thu May 8 2025 11:17 am EST
RF4L that’s such a piss poor job fo managing draft capital I don’t know where to begin. Maybe Dolan will reward him w/ a new 5 yr contract extension after they miss again next year, lol.
NCRanger
Thu May 8 2025 11:15 am EST
RF4L... I'm not sure how you view Panarin as a massive monkey wrench, when he was always part of the plan. The goal was to re-stock the shelves and be competitive sooner rather than later. Bread was roughly the same age as the rest of the core they already had he was the being competitive sooner part of the whole plan. Sprinkle in kids as they're ready. That was the only reason Dolan agreed to do a rebuild.... ALSO... the nonsense DOLAN tried to spread that JD and Gorton wanted to continue the rebuild and he didn't is 100% B.S. You can't continue a rebuild. Either you're ready for the playoffs or you're not. One they were ready for the playoffs, the rebuild is over. The only time you continue a rebuild, is when you failed the first time and have to start over again(looking at you Buffalo)
Rhet0ric
Thu May 8 2025 11:12 am EST
NCRanger: If Dreary, as I suspect, keeps the 12th overall pick this year, it means next year the Rangers will have no first, no second and no fourth round picks. In 2027 they'll have no second or fourth round picks. So in 2 years out of possible 8 picks in rounds 1 to 4, they'll have but 3 selections. And for what? 2 decent PO runs interjected by an embarrassing 1st round elimination at the hands of the Devils and the fiasco that was this past season. And to think that idiot Dolans rewarded Dreary with a new contract. LOL!
rf4L
Thu May 8 2025 10:35 am EST
TD - couldn’t agree more. Organic growth is the way to go. That said, I’m not sure Drury didn’t get the big shiny new toys because of him, but rather in spite of him. At least, that’s my take. Direct evidence of this theory would point to all the draft picks he flittered away over the next several drafts. I’ll rely on RF4L to provide a rundown of this picks, but it’s substantial. That doesn’t give the impression that DD is interested in any organic growth. He’s trying to get this team to the playoffs every year based off Dolans mandate. There’s nothing he’s done which tells me that he’s trying to build a perennial SC contender using organic methods. Quite the contrary, he looks like a smug, entitled douchebag that thinks too highly of himself. And Sully was so obvious. Let me remind that Drury passed over Knoblauch and Carbury last year. How are the doing these days. Moron to the greatest extent.
NCRanger
Thu May 8 2025 10:23 am EST
Quennville next Duck coach...
rf4L
Thu May 8 2025 10:20 am EST
TD: On your last post - agreed but let's not forget that the Gorton initiated rebuild got a massive monkey wrench thrown into it when Panarin was signed (yet another example of non-organic building of a team). It was premature - the Rangers were in the midst of acquiring a slew of assets including high-end talent like KK and Laf. These kids needed playing time but instead, as we all painfully know, got pushed down the lineup that ended up stunting their development in favour of playing a bunch of veterans in the top 6. Now here we are 6 years later with team's future up in the air and most importantly, questions about who of the veteran forwards will stay and who will go. It's a mess.
rf4L
Thu May 8 2025 10:10 am EST
TD: Minor point here - the Rangers got screwed in the 2005 draft lottery worse than you're saying: They landed the 16th overall pick and traded that pick along with a 2nd and a 7th rounder (to Atlanta) to move up to the 12th overall pick.
rf4L
Thu May 8 2025 9:53 am EST
One other thought that sort of rippled through my brain as I wrote about the STAAL draft year...One of the biggest organizational problems with the Rangers...which really started from the cup victory and got worse and worse and worse until culminating in the fucktacular seasons that extended from 1998 to 2003...was that NO ONE in the front office...and I mean NO ONE...ever thought about BUILDING a team. The Rangers front office...from SMITH to MUCKLER to SATHER...just threw money at it. Nobody gave the farm system a second thought. Just grab UFAs. Trade for stars. Get GRETZKY and MESSIER back. Trade for LINDROS. Sign FLEURY. Get KOVALEV back. Get NEDVED. Trade for Tom POTI. Sign Bobby HOLIK. Go for the big shinny thing. OVERLOAD the first line and let it rip...and this is absolutely the WORST way to build a team. All of the great teams from that era...Detroit, Colorado, and yeah, New Jersey...all built organically...and then they framed the team out with imports...One of the biggest breathes of fresh are this team had when it came back from the lockout were the players they started bringing in THROUGH the system...And guys that came to New York for opportunity, not just to get a big fat paycheck...That 2005-2006 team was one of my favorites, even though it didn't go very far...because it was all guys who WANTED to play here. They were laid back and tenacious. They had edge. They skated hard. They respected the game. You had guys like PRUCHA, ORTMEYER and HOLLWEG just laying it all on the line. Dom MOORE. Blair BETTS. Hell, even ol' Colton ORR. They were exciting to watch. And man, they built a culture that birthed a new line of homegrown players...CALLAHAN, DUBINSKY, GIRARDI, SAUER, HAGELIN, STEPAN, ANISIMOV, DELZOTTO, ZUCC and KREIDER. The guys they added, for the most part, were complements to that core, even in the instances when they WERE big names...Seems to me that management is sliding more and more toward that old-school approach to the team, which is to just chase whatever is big and awesome...I don't really like DRURY and I can't say that he had anything to do with not getting guys like GUENTZEL and RANTANEN...but if he did? Kudos. What this team needs it to build within, and not chase additions that will attempt to fix the problem from outside.
tdchi
Thu May 8 2025 9:51 am EST
When did Dreary speak besides his 11 second ditty on get-away day?
rf4L
Thu May 8 2025 9:33 am EST
Stevielegs the contract workings I thought was quite inspirational lolol
vcp1994
Thu May 8 2025 9:30 am EST
Vcp did you see how DD overflows with personality and charisma , and how his speech is so excitedly inspiring with more cliches as possible.
Stevielegs
Thu May 8 2025 9:27 am EST
Drew lucky you, sully calls him dru.
Stevielegs
Thu May 8 2025 9:26 am EST
I had no idea that Drury could actually speak words holy smokes dummies do talk !
vcp1994
Thu May 8 2025 9:24 am EST
There is no singular player who could've rescued the Rangers' season. Not at least in the league now. You could've dropped McDAVID into their lineup, and they would've only been marginally better...If RANTANEN wanted to be in New York, it's because he saw the team LAST season, and didn't take the time to see what an abject mess LAVIOLETTE/DRURY made of the team between October and January. Those two pushed the throttle down and aimed the plane to the ground...LAVIOLETTE's system was torched. I don't think it was much good to begin with, but he had a red-hot PP to save his cheese. That and hot seasons from just about everyone on the top lines. But man, was he exposed this season. I guess you could argue RANTANEN might have rejuvenated the PP. But JT MILLER didn't do that...in fact, it seemed to get even worse...Not going to say the ONLY problem with the Rangers was LAVIOLETTE...well...actually at the beginning of the season, it was...but he was between 65 and 80 percent of the problem.
tdchi
Thu May 8 2025 8:40 am EST
Rhet0ric/Stevie (It's safe, my man - no links to that guy). You are right about Rantanen. There have been some rumors and leaks that at the deadline last year, Jake Guentzel could have been a Ranger but Kakko (and to be fair, Gabe Perreault - not sure if this was the same package) killed the deal.
DREW
Thu May 8 2025 4:34 am EST
Rhet you are assuming DD has a working mind . He’s like many fans , he wants most players that he doesn’t have. I’m assuming zbad is going to move close to bromance Kreider. The big question is if sully is going to assert himself with DD on who he wants and can live with on the roster. If he doesn’t, then he’s here for the retirement plan. Another question is will DD trade guys he’s signed? Zhair and jbro are 2 that come to mind. He is close to infallible in the fig newton of his imagination, and probably acts like that with Mr D after kissing his ring. If sully leaves it to beaver DD, 2025-26 is going to be deja vu all over again. Supposedly he parted from pit burg because of disagreements with the gm. Spotlight Sullivan (SS) should be the main event if dumb dumb (DD) stays out of the way especially with his player memos to his gm colleagues.
Stevielegs
Thu May 8 2025 1:18 am EST
The NYR's could have had Mikko Rantanen. Reportedly Chris Drury was very interested. Rantanen was said to be interested in the NYR's, but at some point, that changed and he was no longer interested in them by the Trade Deadline. I wonder what happened this season that changed his mind?
Rhet0ric
Wed May 7 2025 10:26 pm EST
Stars Jets looks like it's gonna be a fun series. Mikko Rantanen is a beast!!!
shaggy
Wed May 7 2025 9:22 pm EST
Please trade fox the one trick turtle
vcp1994
Wed May 7 2025 6:36 pm EST
Wildcard - Maybe. I mean, I supposed they could keep Z at wing and deal KREIDER. I just don't see either of them with the team, TBH. I think SULLY is going to want to bring in some of his own picks, and the only way he does that is by getting DRURY to free up cap and/or move some wings.
tdchi
Wed May 7 2025 6:27 pm EST
E - I agree with you that the Rangers need to get a top pair LHD to push everybody else down the line up and helping FOX at the same times....Don't know enough about FERRARO but what you describe is what i like so I will take your word on him (or get me GUDAS!!)!....but I could see SULLY going for somebody like DUMOLIN of GRYZCELEK (sp?) instead....Where me may not agree is I really don't know what type of team DRURY wants..I think he has to do a lot more than MILLER to get the team you and i would like......I also worry about the coach he picked (again) and the type of team SULLY likes to Ice which is basically a hard working skating postional team with little physciality...I can't see SULLY coming in if he wasn't gonna get the players HE likes..so we'll see...I think guys like Remps, and even Edstrom and Carrick migh not be Sully's type of players...Players like BLUGER, Brock McGuin, Heinenen, Drew O' Connoir, Zach Acton Reese seem to be more his Cup of Tea...I am not optimistic
Hospo
Wed May 7 2025 6:01 pm EST
HOSPO: one way or another they’re gonna have to get a LD and I’d think they’d like a middle 6 forward as a luxury item. I think in the end the team will continue to take the shape that Drury wants. And in all honesty, you have skill. You need snarl and meat and potatoes type players. That is why I throw names like Mario Ferraro. That’s the type of guy you put with a Fox. He’s got every one of the intangible qualities you look for. Plus he’s a little off in the head and that helps.
E
Wed May 7 2025 2:53 pm EST
Rhet0ric Hahaha I knew it!!!
Drew
Wed May 7 2025 2:51 pm EST
LOL don't you mean your not done not playing nice?!
tdchi
Wed May 7 2025 2:45 pm EST
Drew... Okay, I am not done playing nice. This is now war. I am full on rooting for the NYI next season.
Rhet0ric
Wed May 7 2025 2:36 pm EST
td - did you notice he blinks as much as Gallant used to sniff in his press conferences?
DREW
Wed May 7 2025 2:12 pm EST
DREW - I almost got through 10 seconds of that video. Almost. But at 7 seconds, my ears started bleeding. That dude needs a beating. Bad.
tdchi
Wed May 7 2025 1:46 pm EST
Whatever lolol so drew is one ... Friday night Est lemmo folks
vcp1994
Wed May 7 2025 12:47 pm EST
On our zoom and potential podcast we can discuss this click bait. https://youtu.be/SwbLUcBKz-Y?si=hDEcM2zXR1Nk0BSN
Drew
Wed May 7 2025 12:22 pm EST
td: Honestly, I think it would take more balls to put Zib as the top RW with Miller. Zib had a point per game there, and in a bad season for him that from statements appears that he had some off ice away from the rink issues going on. So perhaps you Make that a line, with either Bread of Laf on the LW side, maybe Gabe. Then you have Trocheck with Bread and Laf or something if you put Gabe up top. I know that leaves the 3rd line C a question. But who knows what moves are made. Still, that would be a ballsy move.
Wildcard
Wed May 7 2025 12:18 pm EST
Hospo: Honestly, I don't think anyone will be given a spot. Berard however will have an inside track. He did much better than expected. His second pro year and he got 6 goals and 10 points in just over 30 games. Most of those games he got 10-12 minutes. But he was not brought in for scoring, he was put in to try to step up the energy levels of the bottom 6, and he did that really well. It wouldn't be easy by any means, but I could see him forcing a decision coming out of camp. It will of course have a lot to do with guys like Edstrom and Rempe if one of them (Edstrom would be the one that would be most likely) pushed for a 3rd line role (maybe that 3rd C will be in play for him) then Berard could be the one to take the other 4th line spot. But again, I don't see any spots being given, well other than the "given" NHL players, but their exact usage is not guaranteed IMHO. Though not having Fox and Bread on the top PP would be shocking as hell, outside of those two and probably JT on the top PP, then Bread and JT in the top 6, I think think everything else is a question mark moving into camp.
Wildcard
Wed May 7 2025 12:08 pm EST
In a perfect world and with a coach who knows what he's doing, you'd have MILLER-Z-TROCHECK as your 1-2-3, wand then build your wings around them. CUYLLE and OTTER strike me as the two best fit for MILLER. Leave KREIDER with Z and give them PERREAULT and then let the PANARIN line stand...then you ROLL THREE LINES. But that takes balls. And it takes a coach who can explain how you have a 1A, 1B and 1C line with no real difference between the three. Then instead of putting all three fucking centers on PP1, you have Z center one unit and TROCHECK or MILLER the other. And then build two equal units. I can't even tell you how simple this is. You spread the ice. You even the lines. You end up with a team that is MARKEDLY quicker than your opponent. But it seems most of the coaches in the NHL over the age of 55 disagree with me and feel it's much better to stack up two lines, ride them 18-20 minutes a night, and have traditional checking and do-nothing fourth lines...again...the NHL is too fast now to have ANYONE sucking air out there...someone asked about the Caps and where they came from...and we've talked at length about how OV seemingly had a career revitalization...well, when you have a 40-year-old with the body of a 50-year-old and you're skating him like an 18-year-old...the results are predictable...spread out the ice. Give young legs more of a chance. And wham. You start winning...anyway...this is a long-winded way of saying if SULLY isn't into rolling three, then Z needs to be moved...Too much cap. Too little juice for the squeeze...and if I'm predicting correctly? That's what will happen. Z will be traded for pennies on the dollar and that cap space will be partially invested into a checking-line center.
tdchi
Wed May 7 2025 11:57 am EST
I doubt Parsnips will be given anything - he'll have to earn it. I say that because he's got an easily demoted contract.
rf4L
Wed May 7 2025 11:23 am EST
Ranger47 - I hope to God Parssinen isn't given the 3rd C spot, he's been nothin but a slug in his NHL career so far....Needs to earn something...I'm betting they pick up a vet 3rd C to go with MILLER and TRO as the first two....I aslo don't think Berrard and OTH should just be given time...Their play hasn't really earned anything yet either...but they should be in a competiton at camp for a spot--maybe...all depends on the goals of SUlly/Dipshit for this year and if any of the core (kreids, ZBAD) are dealt..JMWO of course
Hospo
Wed May 7 2025 11:04 am EST
Hospo: Don't disagree. I suspect P will be given the 3C spot, R and E will start on the 4th line (where you don;t want to put the other 3), then at least 2 of the 3 will be heading to the Pack where I'm not sure they are best served unless there are no other F spots made available to them...Still, it seems At some point we have to get these younguns at least 3rd line NHL minutes to develop properly.
Ranger47
Wed May 7 2025 10:42 am EST
Greeting vcpd on zoom for those who are interested.Thinking Friday evening EST 7-9 pm ?. the Sullivan presser which is Thursday..for those interested say something lololol
vcp1994
Wed May 7 2025 10:31 am EST
Ranger47 - I don't think anybody WAS or is right NOW nowblocking kids like Perrault, Parssinen, OTH amd Berrard..They were/are either not ready (Perault) or not yet really good enough to worry about..Then there's also Remps and Edstrom.....I guess it's all up to Sully (and I kinda think he will like a player like Berrard over the others)
Hospo
Wed May 7 2025 10:21 am EST
TD.... Possibly.... OR.... it's totally a coincidence and he and his wife decided to move to Westchester as their daughter is getting older. You know, maybe even get a back yard. As parents tend to do.
Rhet0ric
Wed May 7 2025 10:08 am EST
Though not advocating they trade him.....
Ranger47
Wed May 7 2025 9:57 am EST
Given that Z might be blocking the kids like Perrault from top 6 time and the need for one or more D, he'd be a logical guy to go some time this year.
Ranger47
Wed May 7 2025 9:47 am EST
tdchi - whatever keeps the Islanders mediocre to bad, I am OK with. (cc: Rhetoric, rf4l)
DREW
Wed May 7 2025 9:45 am EST
Something kicking around my brain this morning: I remember the shear disappointment when the shitfuck Pens won Crosby Sweepstakes and the Rangers, as usual, got FUCKED. They should've been drafting 6th overall, and got bumped down to 12th...well...they landed one of only SIX players in that first round to play over 1,000 games: Marc STAAL. And TBH, his selection was a MAJOR reason the Rangers rebounded. He played two seasons with Sudbury, and then joined the Rangers out of camp in 2007-08, ushering in a new era of Ranger D and goaltending that was absolutely superb...From 1998 through the lockout, the team was a defensive mess. Just a total disaster. Pretty much ruined Mike RICHTER it was so bad. STAAL was the beginning of the end to that horrid streak...And had it not been for his goddamn eye injury, he may have very well been more than just a very solid player...Anywho...I was thinking about that as AITCHESON's name gets spoken a bit louder. Strangely, as powerful as that 2005 draft was in the top 10, the rest of it kind of sucked...you know...sort of like this one. Anyway...some processed junk food for thought.
tdchi
Wed May 7 2025 9:20 am EST
DREW - You had me sold at T-shirts.
tdchi
Wed May 7 2025 9:04 am EST
Rhet0ric - Probably unrelated. But who knows? I can say that if I was Z and I watched what happened with GOODROW and TROUBA and I was aware of the cap situation the Rangers have...and that JT MILLER is now seemingly the top line center...I certainly wouldn't be putting down roots in New York City.
tdchi
Wed May 7 2025 8:54 am EST
I am semi serious with this suggestion to EVERYONE. I had an a-ha moment when I was reading Rhetoric's reply to me about Blinking Darius Domingues. I know VCP has been trying Zooms, why don't us on this wall just designate a time of the week, once a week and have an RFC podcast. Have you guys seen other Podcasts? We can have a Live Stream on draft night when we dump on the Islanders pick and critique. Hell I have so many ideas. Maybe we have a segment called "Getting WILD with WILDCARD, I can read Wall comments and Wildcard can oppose them live. What do you guys say?. VCP? We can have a segment called "Getting VCP'd on". Maybe we make a few bucks and get T-shirts.
DREW
Wed May 7 2025 8:45 am EST
I hope there is some correlation between ZSOFT putting his place on the market and him being traded but my gut, based on SUlly's past nd the type of team he ices, is that ZBAD and the entire vet core stay through at least the first few months of the season..to prove their worth and/or increase their low trade value (Kreids/ZFLOAT)...Younger and role plyers are another story..
Hospo
Wed May 7 2025 8:01 am EST
In regard to Z: I'm not saying that he's not getting traded, I'm just saying that it has nothing to do with his town house being sold. Locker room cleanout day was April 21st. That's just a little over two weeks ago. What makes more sense to you?
Rhet0ric
Wed May 7 2025 8:01 am EST
Ranger47: I said this previously: Not keeping the pick implies that you have no confidence in the team or your abilities to make the right off-season moves to put your team back in the POs next spring, not to mention what it suggests in terms of the coach you just hired. Furthermore, it contradicts the move to acquire 32 year old JTM in the first place. It's almost a certainty in other words, that Dreary keeps the pick.
rf4L
Wed May 7 2025 7:57 am EST
TD: I read the article - not surprisingly it had little substance and said nothing about Laf's 'trade window' other than Dreary might consider trading him before his 8 team NMC kicks in July 1 2026.
rf4L
Wed May 7 2025 7:53 am EST
IMHO you have to keep the #12 pick this year. If you play well and make some noise in the POs next year, THAT #1 will not be all that great. And if you don't, you can always decide on trading vets for younger players and picks as opposed to waiting on the #1 pick in THAT draft to be ready to help the team any time soon....
Ranger47
Wed May 7 2025 7:49 am EST
Z sale of his place possibly anticipating a trade....I don't think anyone here has mentioned that in the end of year interview he may have said that he's decided HE wants to move on. No top 2 C spot, perhaps no Kreider, and running out of time in his career to win a Cup (which is unlikely in 2025-6 w/the Rangers). He and DD may have discussed a trade now or at the trading deadline which might be in his best interest, not just the team.
Ranger47
Wed May 7 2025 7:25 am EST
My lord. To have the deep-running, all-encompassing stupidity to no understand the massive roll the coach played in ruining the Rangers' offense...well...it defies logic. I never really had much against Mollie Walker...and admittedly, you couldn't extract a fucking penny from me to read the NY Post...but unless that headline is just totally off the mark, she's a real fucking moron. Drinking the same Koolaid her geriatric predecessor slugged down(see: cheap vodka in copious amounts) to reach the conclusion that there is something wrong with LAFRENIERE's game other than that he's played for three real fucktard coaches that all lacked the wherewithal to pull themselves out of a hole without digging it miles deeper. Mollie. Grow a fucking brain
tdchi
Wed May 7 2025 2:46 am EST
Molly get a cracker “Alexis Lafrenière’s role in the demise of the Rangers offense — and what it means for his trade window “ By Mollie Walker Published May 6, 2025, 6:20 a.m. ET….. good ole DD has too many on his cya train of trade whoever you can while the coach merry go round spins in the quest to fix the rotten to the core fantasy in futility.
Stevielegs
Wed May 7 2025 2:37 am EST
Note to Mr D, you’re in the entertainment business. The Nyr were not entertaining, and DD dreary is a tragedy with no comedy. The guy has a hard time cracking a smile. His charisma bypass was another waste of money. They could not find his charisma. You might want to build another couple of spheres in NYC and AC. And maybe buy the Barnum and Bailey name.
Stevielegs
Tue May 6 2025 10:00 pm EST
re: Z - Said it before, I'll say it again: I don't think he'll be back. Maybe it's his bad burger business or whatever. More likely, he's read the writing on the wall. It's JT MILLER's team now. And while I still thinking having those two and TROCHECK down the center makes the Rangers very difficult to beat...There's just no way that happens under SULLY. Someone is going, and it ain't gonna be JT. And I doubt it'll be TROCHECK.
tdchi
Tue May 6 2025 9:58 pm EST
schneidw - I'm going to assume you're talking about Washington here, and I can lay it out real easily for you: Being smart. First thing was that they realized LAVIOLETTE was driving them into the ground. Quick. And instead of hiring a stupid fucking retread, they hired a young coach with a fresh perspective. Around the same time? They also hired a young Princeton-educated GM to liven things up...and boy did he ever. First thing Chris PATRICK...yes..of THOSE Patricks...does is rebuild the Capitals' defense. He gets Jake CHYCHRUN for next to nothing. He signs Matt ROY. He remarkably dumps Darcy KUEMPER, perhaps the most overrated, overpaid goalie on the planet, for Pierre DUBOIS. And then he adds to this size by signing Brandon DUHAIME, who is young and BUILT for the post-season...he signs Logan THOMPSON, who he knows he can make look good with the Caps' stifling, hard-hitting D...and then the rest? Well, it's CARBURY. He knew what he had in PROTAS and McMICHAEL. He expanded SANDIN'S role. He let Dylan STROME, who was another cast-away, grow into his own...Man, I watch what PATRICK and CARBURY have done with the Caps and I honestly wonder what the rest of the GMs/coaches in the league are smoking...Similar to what the Blues did...Just being smart. Not diving all over the bright shiny thing in the corner, but bringing guys in who fit the system. Who play a certain way...it's not to say the Caps are on their way back to glory...but before this season? Many thought they were sailing toward a rebuild. They tweaked everything smart, and BOOM. They're back in it...Yeah, Carolina won the first game...but I honestly have no idea how that team beats Washington. They are a team that is uniquely unfit to play the Caps.
tdchi
Tue May 6 2025 9:10 pm EST
CAR takes game 1 in OT
NYStranger
Tue May 6 2025 9:07 pm EST
Bye bye Caps...
rf4l
Tue May 6 2025 9:00 pm EST
Well not sure the burger joint deal would be an issue? That was 2023 and they owed $400,000 as far as I can find online. Unless, he was a total moron on whatever deal he signed. But you got to be a moron to want to go into the restaurant business in the first place. Oh wait…guess who is in the Pizza Business?! See what I just did there? ;-)
NYStranger
Tue May 6 2025 8:40 pm EST
Live events company Madison Square Garden Entertainment (MSGE) improved its revenue 6% to $243 million in the fiscal third quarter ended March 31, the company announced Tuesday (May 6). Operating income of $27.3 million marked a 63% improvement. The results “reflect continued strong consumer and corporate demand as well as a wide variety of live events across our venues,” CEO James Dolan said in a statement. “We remain on track to deliver solid adjusted operating income growth this fiscal year and believe we are well-positioned to drive long-term value for our shareholders.” For the nine-month period ended March 31, revenue was up 2% to $789 million and adjusted operating income rose 13% to $224 million. MSGE owns and operates New York City venues Madison Square Garden, The Theater at Madison Square Garden, Radio City Music Hall and the Beacon Theater, as well as The Chicago Theatre and The Christmas Spectacular Starring the Radio City Rockettes. Revenue from entertainment offerings rose 10% to $160 million due primarily to higher revenue from arena licensing agreements with MSG Sports, greater revenue from the Christmas Spectacular production and more revenue from venue-related sponsorship, signage and suites. Event-related revenue fell $3.6 million due primarily to lower revenue from concerts. The company attributed the decline to more rentals and fewer promoted events and a decrease in the number of concerts at MSGE venues. Arena license fees fell 1% to $36.4 million due primarily to the quarter having two fewer New York Knicks and New York Rangers games compared to the prior-year quarter. Food, beverage and merchandise revenue rose 1% to $45.8 million. Higher food and beverage sales at other live entertainment and sporting events were partially offset by lower sales at concerts due to the decrease in the number of concerts in the quarter. Following the earnings announcement on Tuesday, MSGE shares rose as high as $36.17, up 6.4%, and were up 5% to $35.67 in mid-afternoon trading.
punchrolfe
Tue May 6 2025 6:50 pm EST
Schneid - thanks…my son came across the article and sent it to me. As for Carolina, I think their key is the way they play defensive hockey. Their problem, though, has always been scoring goals but their good coaching and their “system” keep them formidable. I wanted the Rangers to go after their defensive coach, Tim Gleason as HC.
JFC31
Tue May 6 2025 6:39 pm EST
In regard to ZIBANBEJAD... Not to quash anyones hopium or copium, but if you remember back a couple of years ago, both Z and his brother were in danger of losing their homes when a burger chain they owned failed to pay back a loan. Banks usually don't play nice.. I am sure this more than likely has to do with that. Sell it before the bank can foreclose on it, I always say.
Rhet0ric
Tue May 6 2025 6:26 pm EST
WAS- I struggle to understand how CAR has rebuilt and become the #1 seed in the east... They have so many 'cast off' players like Strome, Chycrun, Dubois, Orlov, Thompson, Sandin, Dowd, Van Riemsyk ,and Duhaime all playing major minutes... On paper, I don't see how they are so good... Strome had 29 goals and 53 assists and is still only 27YO... Chicago didnt qualify STrome, let him walk as RFA for nothing... going down their lineup, they have been acquiring these assets like bottom feeders.. and yet.
schneidw
Tue May 6 2025 6:21 pm EST
JFC- Awesome post!! How did you find that info?! Damn, $13M...
schneidw
Tue May 6 2025 6:20 pm EST
https://www.crainsnewyork.com/real-estate/new-york-rangers-mika-zibanejad-sells-west-village-townhouse-13m
JFC31
Tue May 6 2025 6:15 pm EST
Zibanajad just sold his West Village townhouse for $13 million according to Crain’s Business! Hmmm…..
JFC31
Tue May 6 2025 4:44 pm EST
DREW.... You are an Evil Mastermind. Touche' :)
Rhet0ric
Tue May 6 2025 2:52 pm EST
E/NYStranger - I mean, I never say never...but you'd have riots in Edmonton if McDAVID tried to leave...and I would guess that the team would corner him if he seems disinterested in negotiating...Bottom line is if McDAVID wants or wanted out of Oil country, you'd have 31 teams trying to land him. And it would be a GRETZKY-like haul...Would say a genuine top line player in his prime, a pair of bluechip prospects, and anywhere between two and three first rounders. That would be just to get into the sweepstakes.
tdchi
Tue May 6 2025 2:00 pm EST
I took a look at the UFA list today and I realized Gavrikov from LA is available. If you were looking for a LD for Fox? You could do far worse. Still would love Ferraro a whole lot more. These are guys you don't see in the E. Conference but they are players that aren’t glorious names but you win with them.
E
Tue May 6 2025 1:58 pm EST
I dont think the problem with McDavid has anything to do with cash. It’s about whether he wants to be in Edmonton. Make no mistake cap aside the NHL would love to get McDavid into a big Canadian market like TO or MTL. Or if you could get him into a big US market the NHL would love it. But Im not advocating or rumor marketing. Just saying that if McDavid wanted to get to another market? He will be. And Edmonton has nothing they can do about it. Some players are more like top NBA players or football (soccer) players. Whatever they want? They produce their own gravity.
E
Tue May 6 2025 1:09 pm EST
Hey Rhetoric - I’m keying on you …..https://youtu.be/grxOisGAy9Y?si=4rnpcErr2eNdx9Nb
Drew
Tue May 6 2025 11:56 am EST
td :well I am not advocating trying to land McDavid. Just saying weirder things have happened. Never can say never. And that ‘Gretzky like haul’. Didn’t ultimately work out for either LA or Edmonton. Unless you consider Edmonton maybe won the ‘90 Cup because they were able to afford to keep most of the band together for two more years
NYStranger
Tue May 6 2025 10:31 am EST
RF4L - If the Rangers take the 12th pick and AITCHESON is on the board, I can't see a world where they DON'T take him. TBH, I have a feeling HE might protect us from another season of SOUCY or the ludicrously awful idea of signing DUMOULIN. Pretty sure AITCHESON could step right into the NHL. Only way I see the Rangers passing on someone of his ilk is if someone drops to 12...like HAGENS or FRONDELL.
tdchi
Tue May 6 2025 10:22 am EST
BARKOV v. PANARIN is apples v. oranges. Two TOTALLY different players. Extremely talented. Different scenarios. BARKOV was drafted by Florida, has spent his whole career there, has a home there, and gets a bit if a tax break. He's their top center and a critical piece of their team...if he were to test free agency and sign elsewhere? He would sign for AT LEAST what PANARIN is making. Maybe more. Not even a question about it. He gave the Panthers a hometown discount. Simple as that...PANARIN is an offensive force. A dynamo. Probably in the top-10 of the most gifted offensive players in the league. He earns EVERY PENNY of his salary. Straight up. He's one of the very few UFA signings the Rangers have landed that has lived up to his hype...AND MORE. Without him? the Rangers would've never won the President's Trophy, nor would they have made the Conference Final twice. This past year? They would've been in the bottom six of the league. There are no two players you could get that would equal is impact. And there's been no one player on the UFA market we could've signed who would've been equal. GUENTZEL is about as close as they come, and that's not very close...to sit back and say PANARIN isn't an invaluable part of this team is to flat-out plead ignorance to everything he's done...and this is coming from someone who wasn't a big fan of his signing...so would the Rangers be better with BARKOV than PANARIN? It's academic...but here's what I think: NO. Not unless you think what has been holding the Rangers back all these years has been these two shitty centers named ZIBANEJAD and TROCHECK...and now MILLER...NOW...if we're going to switch things up and discuss MAURICE v. LAVIOLETTE...well, there's some grist for the wall. Because flip those two coaches and I think you'd MIGHT have a cup in New York and a floundering Panthers team right now.
tdchi
Tue May 6 2025 10:11 am EST
This kid, too: https://thehockeywriters.com/jack-nesbitt-2025-nhl-draft-prospect-profile/
rf4L
Tue May 6 2025 10:10 am EST
This kid likely will be available come the 12th pick: https://thehockeywriters.com/kashawn-aitcheson-2025-nhl-draft-prospect-profile/
rf4L
Tue May 6 2025 9:59 am EST
re: McDAVID - Here's the deal: The Oilers are going to roll out the Brinks truck for the guy. There's just no way they let him walk as a free agent. And if he WAS going to walk? They would trade him. He is not going anywhere...and if he is, it'll be via trade to some place where he's willing to sign...Any GM who would let him walk would be immediately fired and blackballed. Not even worth discussing signing him without figuring out what kind of GRETZKY-like haul the recipient team would have to give to get him. There's just no way. The only way McDAVID leaves Edmonton is if there's a REAL ugly divorce. They're doing everything in their power to appease him, and weren't far off from a Cup last year...So yeah. Not even worth musing about, because it'll never happen. And if it does? The team that gets him will be CLEANED OUT.
tdchi
Tue May 6 2025 9:42 am EST
Okay.... How is BREAD overpaid vs. Yard Dog? (not his nickname, but it should be) .....Points/Last 5 years.... Barkov... 58... 88... 78... 80.... 71..... Panarin.... 58.... 96....92...120.... 89.... If anything, it seems to me like they got the pay correct. Bread makes $1.64 Mil more, but he also produces more. He was also signed as an UFA. If he was a homegrown talent, he may have left money on the table(like Barkov did) to help keep a cap contained team together. We'll never know.
Rhet0ric
Tue May 6 2025 9:33 am EST
The real question is what are the chances the 12th overall pick is better than a pick between 20-30 next year...While I agree this draft is on the weak side, I think your chances of getting an NHLer at 12th overall in this one is as good or better than wherever the Rangers are picking next season...I think at this point, the only way the Rangers don't take this AITCHESON kid is if he's off the table or they forgo the pick...I don't see either of those things happening...I would shop around that first rounder to see if you could maybe fall back to...say...16th and land a second rounder...Jeff GORTON's Canadiens would be on my list to call.
tdchi
Tue May 6 2025 8:55 am EST
EDMONTON- LAK imploded and gifted the Oilers a Round 2 invite... What nobody is talking about is Conor McDavid $12.5M is a UFA in summer 2026 at the same time that Panarin $11.8M comes off the NYRs books... Can you imagine? It will be telling if Drury salary cap management strategy is to try and trade Kreider and ZBAD this summer and let Panarin play out his contract....NHL has to recognize that having leading stars in big markets is best for all the teams..... never know!
schneidw
Tue May 6 2025 6:46 am EST
https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/video/stolarz-forced-to-exit-game-1-after-taking-bennett-elbow-to-head/
rf4L
Tue May 6 2025 6:43 am EST
Sam Bennett is a punk.
rf4L
Tue May 6 2025 5:36 am EST
I would really like to see the Panthers pumped and dumped by the Leafs. The bigger and harder the fall, the better. I’m beginning to loathe the fawning for that team worse than the fawning over Vegas.
tdchi
Tue May 6 2025 5:12 am EST
DD still employed….https://www.nhl.com/news/rob-blake-out-as-los-angeles-kings-general-manager-agreed-to-part-ways-with-team
Stevielegs
Mon May 5 2025 10:16 pm EST
Schneidw. Not for me. Rangers overpaying is one of their pathetic MOs.
rf4l
Mon May 5 2025 9:28 pm EST
Barkov- Such a great player, so underrated.. hard to believe Barkov makes ~$2M less than Panarin
schneidw
Mon May 5 2025 9:20 pm EST
Drew. At least you're not a loser like me.
rf4l
Mon May 5 2025 8:03 pm EST
NCRanger - yeah I’m fine. Islanders still need a GM to make said pick. And it’s probably a strong chance F have this one up. Maybe they win as many Stanley Cup as he did with Tavares.
Drew
Mon May 5 2025 7:59 pm EST
You know what Rhet0ric that hurts man.. that really stinking hurts - get ready for summer of Darius Domingues references.
Drew
Mon May 5 2025 7:10 pm EST
My stupidity? Gawd I'm a loser.
rf4l
Mon May 5 2025 7:09 pm EST
Well thankfully it's not a generational talent draft. Next year might be with Gavin McKenna on the board. Stupid ass Dreary trading away a 1st to land Miller is my stupidity.
rf4l
Mon May 5 2025 7:01 pm EST
Aietcheson or O’Brien at 12 if we stick. Maybe Bear if he’s there. Not much else interests me
NCRanger
Mon May 5 2025 7:00 pm EST
Gawd Drury looks like one smug arrogant MF’er. This is a person that looks like he’s in desperate need of a humbling. What are the odds of Dolan or Drury getting hit by a bus? I’ll take that any day over the #1 pick. I think there is a good chance this team doesn’t make it next year. Top players are on the wrong side of the 30 and best prospects are not put in a position to flourish & develop. Drury may seriously be worse than Sather. He rode the coattails of Gorts and you can see what Gorts did in MTL. That team is on the come up. Drew….you ok dude?
NCRanger
Mon May 5 2025 6:52 pm EST
Td, wild , What would be a good pick st 12
Kis
Mon May 5 2025 6:46 pm EST
Rhet- Rangers have to decide 48 hours before 1st round starts. I have a feeling this team will make the playoffs next year. I’m thinking next years pick will be late first round. From what I hear and what Wild just said, the question is: is a late pick next year better than 12 this year?
ColoradoMark
Mon May 5 2025 6:41 pm EST
I blame DREW for this. He poisoned the well with all of his NYI reverse psychology nonsense.
Rhet0ric
Mon May 5 2025 6:37 pm EST
SCHNEIDW.... Great point. Next years draft is looking deeper. I also don't believe we have to make the decision until right before we pick. We could see what's available and then make our choice.
Rhet0ric
Mon May 5 2025 6:33 pm EST
I’d feel better if Lemon Lou was making the puck. I wanted anyone but Isles or Pitt.sigh.
ColoradoMark
Mon May 5 2025 6:33 pm EST
The real question for the rangers is…does a late first next draft beat out an early first this draft? Because while fans and many here have this broken idea that the rangers can’t win a lot under Drury. The fact is they already have. Multiple seasons. The odds of them being in the 12th overall draft spot next year is low. It’s more likely they at the very least make it to the first round. If that happens they are picking 17th or later. That is more likely than being this high again. Look how bad they were most of this year and still were not bad enough for a top 10 spot even before the lottery. It’s likely they get a new coach bump. And that bump will likely give them 5 or 6 more wins. 5 or 6 wins this year puts them comfortably in the playoffs in 3rd in the Metro. So if the Rangers scouts like someone who looks like they will go in that 12 hole they probably keep the pick. Keeping next years would only be for asset purposes. Meaning. So they can trade it or try to offer sheet someone. I doubt that Drury keeps it thinking they will pick higher. In fact I can guarantee he doesn’t tho k they will be worse next year.
Wildcard
Mon May 5 2025 6:27 pm EST
DREW: Honestly. It’s one player. The new management there will need it do a lot more than draft one top guy. They will likely have another high pick next season as well.
Wildcard
Mon May 5 2025 6:25 pm EST
Rangers drop 1 to 12th.
Wildcard
Mon May 5 2025 6:24 pm EST
Second draw goes to utah
Wildcard
Mon May 5 2025 6:24 pm EST
Freaking NHL draft is harder to understand than trigonometry
Jake0104
Mon May 5 2025 6:22 pm EST
Wild card. I’ll be leaning on you a lot this often season tell me that the first overall pick this year‘s draft is going to be a bust.
Drew
Mon May 5 2025 6:22 pm EST
Wild card. I’ll be leaning on you a lot this often season tell me that the first overall pick this year‘s draft is going to be a bust.
Drew
Mon May 5 2025 6:22 pm EST
The hits keep coming….Ugh…
PJ
Mon May 5 2025 6:21 pm EST
Sorry Drew .
shonuff
Mon May 5 2025 6:21 pm EST
*of course
NV94
Mon May 5 2025 6:20 pm EST
Ok. Now for the second overall pick. Why interview. Just show the damn second draw…then do interviews…how stupid
Wildcard
Mon May 5 2025 6:20 pm EST
May the first overall pick be a bust
Drew
Mon May 5 2025 6:20 pm EST
Of the islanders, it’s probably because they pulled the All-Star game from them.
NV94
Mon May 5 2025 6:19 pm EST
Islanders
Wildcard
Mon May 5 2025 6:19 pm EST
Fuck
Wildcard
Mon May 5 2025 6:18 pm EST
They should have had some major corp be the sponsor and paid for all the advertising to avoid this commercial break crap
Wildcard
Mon May 5 2025 6:15 pm EST
Someone not in the Metro please.
Bob
Mon May 5 2025 6:15 pm EST
Just let PITT have the pick... pull the Drury bandaid! This draft class is weak
schneidw
Mon May 5 2025 6:15 pm EST
Not that I expected the rangers to win a lottery draw…but come on….
Wildcard
Mon May 5 2025 6:14 pm EST
Imagine that. The pens are in line for a 1st rounder just in time to kick off their rebuild
Wildcard
Mon May 5 2025 6:14 pm EST
After 3. Rangers out
Wildcard
Mon May 5 2025 6:13 pm EST
After 2 numbers Rangers 4.5% chance still
Wildcard
Mon May 5 2025 6:12 pm EST
Rangers still have 2.4%
Wildcard
Mon May 5 2025 6:08 pm EST
I really has a distaste for having the top prospects on air for lottery stuff
Wildcard
Mon May 5 2025 6:04 pm EST
https://puckgm.puckpedia.com/draft-lottery-combos
Wildcard
Mon May 5 2025 6:03 pm EST
Puckpedia had someone make a page that allows you to enter the numbers as they are drawn and it keeps the list of teams still in it listed.
Wildcard
Mon May 5 2025 5:00 pm EST
RF4L....Reportedly, HOWARD wanted to sign this season but he also wanted to burn the first year of his ELC. The BOLTS apparently declined that option. I don't know where his head is currently at, but he could go back for his senior year, choose his new team and then burn off that year.
Rhet0ric
Mon May 5 2025 4:39 pm EST
Rumor going around that the NYR's may have interest in Brian Dumoulin. Shutdown D type, who could potentially be A solid partner for FOX. Wrong side of 30. He has ties to SULLY and is apparently looked at as a replacement to SOUCY(already).
Rhet0ric
Mon May 5 2025 4:15 pm EST
JFC31: Aitcheson looks like the ideal fit for NYRs, both in style of play and LD positoin... Good Call. Reading over Scott Wheeler's draft bible, this looks like a very weak draft.. I wonder if the NYRs fall outside the top 10, do they let PITT have this year'spick?
schneidw
Mon May 5 2025 4:00 pm EST
RF4L - HOWARD won't be a UFA in August 2026. The Bolts, apparently, just found out he's not planning to sign. As I said before, this is a situation where he knows where he wants to go. Probably either Detroit on Minnesota. My guess is he'll get traded at the draft.
tdchi
Mon May 5 2025 3:57 pm EST
re: BARRON, here's a list of the future HHOFers who got ice instead of him: Dryden HUNT, Ryan REAVES, McKEGGER, Kevin ROONEY, GOAT, and BRODZINSKI. Tony GRECO and Timmmmmay!! GETTINGER also got spins. BARRON patiently waited in the stands...
tdchi
Mon May 5 2025 3:11 pm EST
NHL Ping Pong Ball time tonight at 7 PM EST. Here are a couple of reviews of a young guy some are saying would be perfect for the Rangers, Kashawn Aitcheson. Scott Wheeler: “Aitcheson was a big-minutes player for Team Canada at last year's U18 worlds — where his ice time rose when the games and the shifts mattered most, especially in defensive situations — and has been a big-minutes player for Barrie the last two seasons (this year, he also wore a letter and was a go-to contributor on both the power play and penalty kill). He’s a powerful, bullish defender who is hard to play against, defends firmly and commands his ice. He knows who he is and plays with confidence and aggression, often directing his teammates and always talking (to his teammates and opponents). He’s strong on the PK. He’s chippy and extremely physical, looking for every opportunity he can to lay a hit, get in someone’s face or give someone a shot. He’s eager to drop the gloves. He’s a willing shot-blocker. He’s got step-up physicality and likes to knock guys around (I’ve seen him lay some huge hits in visits to Barrie). He’s got a hard shot, scored 26 goals this season as a D, scored half a dozen more in the playoffs and makes a good first pass. He's a strong enough skater (though his feet can splay and kick a little when he’s in a hurry and he’s still got work to do on his stride mechanics, which I know have already been a focus) and a physically mature athlete with some real power and presence about him. He’s got a good stick, so his defending isn’t completely reliant on his physical play. His discipline and decision-making can get him into trouble, and he takes a lot of stick penalties and will make the odd mistake, but he can play in all situations and has a lot of the tools you look for in a hard-nosed two-way type. He’s going to have a long career in the NHL as a two-way competitor with some real bite.” Corey Pronman: “ Aitcheson was one of the better defensemen in the OHL this season. He has been a major minutes player for Barrie as he was for Canada's U18 team last spring. He’s a hyper-competitive defender who doesn’t back down from physical play and likes to agitate. He has the bite NHL teams will love, even if he does go over the line at times. He’s a good skater with strong enough hands and hockey sense to make plays at higher levels and a solid point shot too. Aitcheson won't run a power play, lacking the natural sense at times with the puck, but he projects to have secondary NHL offense and has put up significant offense this year. Even if his puck play is just decent, with his athletic tools and being a menace to play against, he can be a great top-four defenseman.”
JFC31
Mon May 5 2025 2:55 pm EST
Apparently, the Bolts are prepared to shop Isaac Howard. They picked him 31st overall 3 drafts ago and for whatever reason, don't believe they'll be able to sign and he'll become an UFA August 26. He had a strong year in college 8 goals and 36 points to 26 and 52 this past year. I wonder if Dreary has any interest. He's a left winger so perhaps not...
rf4L
Mon May 5 2025 2:51 pm EST
done = down
rf4L
Mon May 5 2025 2:51 pm EST
Barron got the Ranger rookie treatment courtesy of GG. That is 2 out of 3 games he was in the pressbox and in the few games he was dressed, he got minimal icetime. The year he was traded he played 13 games for the Rangers, 25 games for Hartford, 5 games for the Moose and then 14 for the Jets. Yet ANOTHER example of poor asset management, something the Rangers organization have done to an exact science.
rf4L
Mon May 5 2025 2:48 pm EST
As it was expected by many insiders, David Carle is staying in Denver, signing a multi-year contract extension.
andrei
Mon May 5 2025 2:08 pm EST
Td, 100% exactly. The one im disappointed in moving is Barron. At the time he had no place. We had zbad, i forget who was second center at the time and we had cheeto was 3rd center. As a youngster and with the team so close to a cup the team rolled the dice and went with a strong more mature 4th line center. Cant cry over 4th line centers
Kis
Mon May 5 2025 12:59 pm EST
NAMESTNIKOV, incidentally, has quietly become an integral part of the Jets' team. Probably more so than BARRON, TBH. Plays all three forward positions...can slid into and out of the top six seamlessly. Is good defensively and has put up very good possession metrics. Continues to be a physical, defensively reliable player...and we got...Kalle VAISANEN...who is in Finland now and will probably never hop back over...it's strange how bad the McDONAGH-MILLER deal was...and then how much worse DRURY and GORTON made it by giving away the two decent players we got out of the deal...That disaster now hinges on VAISANEN and Noah LABA, since I also kinda doubt Karl HENRIKSSON ever shows his face in North America again.
tdchi
Mon May 5 2025 12:44 pm EST
I don't really begrudge the PIONK deal whatsoever. I know folks here and elsewhere liked to shit on Jake TROUBA, but he was a leading reason this team made it to the conference finals TWICE. And the team took a significant step backward when he was dealt...that happened to coincide with a HUGE slide that didn't really get corrected until JT MILLER came aboard...TROUBA's 140 blocked shots with the Ducks in 50 games would've been enough for second on the Rangers. And his 125 hits wouldn've been second only to SCHNEIDER on defense...Was he overpaid? Yeah. But he was one of the few players holding together the defense and he was chased out of town because of his cap hit...Nevertheless, the deal was a decent one, at bare minimum...and had the Rangers/DRURY been able to manage their cap a bit better, TROUBA would still be doing what he does best for them...Gotta say, out of all the players/personnel that the Blues-Jets series touched on...BUCHENVICH, of course. Morgan BARRON. Scott ARNIEL. Even Vlad NAMESTINKOV. The one I don't regret anything about is PIONK. He would've been behind FOX and would've been blocking SCHNEIDER. Of course, we now have Will BORGEN to do that...but I digress.
tdchi
Mon May 5 2025 10:50 am EST
It amazes me how many geniuses there are. People seem to forget the organization had man small puck moving smart defenders ( fox, the kid that got moved to dallas, zac jones and i think there was one more. The organization wanted a big strong defender. The team marked trouba. He brought the physical end. Was he expensive ? Yes bit so is zbad, bread and now Igor. Thats the market demands. Fox won a norris. The rangers got a first for the swedish kid, jones os still woth the team and Trouba became captain stood up for his team mates and change games and series with huge hits and fights. It was a good move at the time. People need to stop whining. There are other things that we can bitch about
Kis
Mon May 5 2025 9:33 am EST
PJ I said same thing about Buch and the look on Monty’s face did as well.
steve443c10
Mon May 5 2025 9:32 am EST
The Dallas game 7 and Jets game 7 were two of the most exciting games I have seen in a long time, wow. Also, when is presser for Sully can’t wait to see what he has to say?
steve443c10
Mon May 5 2025 9:06 am EST
That was a brutal way to lose for the Blues…Bad icing by Buch at the end….He had time and Thomas open for a pass that would have most likely ended the game….
PJ
Mon May 5 2025 8:38 am EST
Lord...just typing that last post makes me want to punch LAVILOLETTE in the face. I think I actually hate that fat fuck more than I do QUINN at this point...Caught a Spitting Chicklets broadcast from a few weeks back...and while I really can't stand BIZ and think Ryan WHITNEY is a chode...something they mentioned that stuck out to me...they said LAVIOLETTE stopped coming into the locker room after games around midway through the season...Like wut? That's your JOB asshole. Like just cycling back through some of the shitty losses the Rangers racked up in the last 30 games or so...some of those losses were the type where you need a coach who goes in and hurls the trash can. THEY DEMANDED that sort of response...and this fucking human anal bead just gave them the silent treatment?! FOR REAL?!? The Rangers could've salvaged this season with a new coach. Or letting PECA or MUSE to take over. The fact DRURY didn't do that is just bewildering to the point I really still want to send him some dogshit.
tdchi
Mon May 5 2025 8:34 am EST
I don't think folks here recognize how bad LAVIOLETTE was for this team and how he impacted the season. With a decent coach at the helm, this team would've made the playoffs. You probably wouldn't have seen two thirds of the trades that happened...and we'd probably be looking at a second-round series with the Caps right now...The Blues? Folks forget THE WEREN'T EVEN SUPPOSED TO MAKE THE PLAYOFFS...BUT...you have a coach behind the bench who skates all four lines, and isn't worried about putting a rookie out there...MONYT has heaped ice on BOLDUC, SNUGGARUD and NEIGHBORS. And those young legs helped some of the older guys get a second wind. This is literally how you have to approach the game today...Strangely enough...and I will credit SULLY for this somewhat...is that he KNOWS this lesson well. He won two cups that way(oh, and having a half-dozen first-ballot HHOFers in the lineup)...We'll see how he does with our young talented wingers and whether he'll be LAVIOLETTE 2.0 by drilling old players into the ground.
tdchi
Mon May 5 2025 5:27 am EST
There is a marvel universe we still have Pionk and Buch and re acquire Zucc and never let McD go.
shonuff
Mon May 5 2025 5:26 am EST
Watching the way the Avs and Blues went down I’m glad we missed the playoffs .
shonuff
Mon May 5 2025 12:52 am EST
https://nypost.com/2025/05/04/sports/inside-season-by-season-look-of-rangers-gm-chris-drurys-moves-plus-grades/
Stevielegs
Sun May 4 2025 10:26 pm EST
Nystranger yep are D corps needs work!!!
vcp1994
Sun May 4 2025 10:18 pm EST
HAHa I guess I will have to take back my Hellebuyck comment….well there is always next round. I think that was Pionk’s OT goal. I did not think Lowry actually touched it and it deflected off a St Louis player but whatever. Pionk just had a monster game. And Trouba is long gone and we have bunch of scrubs as a D corps.
NYStranger
Sun May 4 2025 10:10 pm EST
Jets Win in OT. WOW.
Rhet0ric
Sun May 4 2025 9:56 pm EST
We used to have a GM that would actually get things for players we traded. I know it sounds crazy, but it's true.
Rhet0ric
Sun May 4 2025 9:37 pm EST
Didn't realize..big trouba fan ..oh well sue me lololol
vcp1994
Sun May 4 2025 9:31 pm EST
PIONK is a beast, glad he got the opportunity to be a legit top defenseman. His time on ice is insane.
Cnparda
Sun May 4 2025 9:30 pm EST
By the way RDW whomever you are cale Makakar is 5'11 185 ish. I would gladly take him !!!! Thank you.
vcp1994
Sun May 4 2025 9:29 pm EST
You said we have Pionk away….He was traded for Trouba…
PJ
Sun May 4 2025 9:25 pm EST
Loved trouba!!! I take pionk over jones and vaukkk no contest. I don't like small guys who can't skate fast. I.loved REJO rocket shot and speed
vcp1994
Sun May 4 2025 9:08 pm EST
vcp…So Trouba was nothing?
PJ
Sun May 4 2025 9:02 pm EST
VCP: Pretty sure you'd be bitching about him not being big enough every fucking day if he was still on the Rangers..
RDW
Sun May 4 2025 8:41 pm EST
This STL -WPG game is ridiculous. WPG scores 2 goals in under 2 min to tie.
Cnparda
Sun May 4 2025 8:39 pm EST
Interesting player for Winnipeg on the ice with 50 seconds left by the name of pionk. Hmmmm didn't he play for rangers.hhhmmm didn't we give him away....hmhmhnhh OT pegs and blues
vcp1994
Sun May 4 2025 8:39 pm EST
Wow…Jets tie Blues with one second left….Score two goals with the goalie pulled..
PJ
Sun May 4 2025 8:06 pm EST
Watch Rantanen pin a guy, shield the puck with his hip, make a quick read, and thread a pass under pressure. It’s fundamentals. No panic, no wasted motion, just absolute control. I know the Finns excel at this type of hockey but Rantanan is the worst of prototypes because he has the skating and he can beat you 20 different ways. He was just impressive. He couldn’t be covered. He just shields you off the puck and that’s it, he’ll just advance the puck and if you force him to the glass he will slog it along and all you can do is try to push him up to the glass. What people might not appreciate is how exhausting it is to play against a guy like that. As dangerous a winger as you’d find out there. And I get the Jagr comparisons. Another just impossible player to go up against. Separating him from the puck was impossible and it didn’t even matter as his career advanced. I so hoped Kakko would be that. But than again there was Marcel Hossa
E
Sun May 4 2025 6:44 pm EST
It’s called being hot at the right time….Blues had a late season win streak of 12 games….They have now won 15 in a row at home….Jets ran into a buzzsaw….Blues playing with house money being the last seed..That said this game isn’t over..
PJ
Sun May 4 2025 6:25 pm EST
Hellebuyck yet again proving how overrated is. Plus Jets really need to start playing. Maybe forgot it was a 7pm start time? Heheh
NYStranger
Sun May 4 2025 6:24 pm EST
Schneidw max domi about them apples has type 1 diabetic.
vcp1994
Sun May 4 2025 6:11 pm EST
Schneid…Blues have missed the playoffs the last two seasons…Last seed this year but came on strong after making coaching change…
PJ
Sun May 4 2025 5:56 pm EST
So DD drury’s first throwaway has 3 goals in the first 6 for the blues. Who needs butchie ? Mr cap excuse manager of general confusion. Give him some more rope, but electrify it.
Stevielegs
Sun May 4 2025 5:52 pm EST
Blues have a nice mixture of youth and vets…On D they have vets like Parayko, Ryan Suter and Cam Fowler who has been terrific in this series…Fourth line has been great in this series as well….
PJ
Sun May 4 2025 5:42 pm EST
STL Blues- Gearing up to watch Game 7 and just shocked how STL rebuilt on the fly after a Stanley Cup, look at the smart trades, free agent signings, draft picks and even coaching changes... damn!!! B Schenn has been remarkeable strong 2 way center for them.
schneidw
Sun May 4 2025 5:41 pm EST
Last AVS post.. sorry, COL is my local team, so I was rooting for them to advance... “It’s pretty shocking,” Colorado’s Nathan MacKinnon said in a stunned postgame locker room. “Felt like we were in total control and then Mikko, credit to him, he made some amazing plays. He was a difference-maker and he took over. I don’t know; I’m in shock to be honest with you. Felt like we were in complete control of the game the whole time and just lost it. They were missing their best [defenseman in Miro Heiskanen] and maybe their best forward (Jason Robertson), so we still couldn’t beat them. Yeah, I don’t know. I don’t know what we’re going to do.”
schneidw
Sun May 4 2025 5:40 pm EST
TD- Great point... makes me immediately think of Lafrenierre watch LAVS roll out the same lame predictable powerplay unit time and time again and then have JT Miller show up and get PP time on the first unit and make countless bad passes... So true!
schneidw
Sun May 4 2025 5:25 pm EST
re: RANTANEN - Again, we have a situation where a team was willing to play a guy in a role where they envisioned him being. He came in and was a full-time player right out of the gate in his first NHL and second year as a pro...logging 18-plus minutes a night...getting first-unit PP time...The Rangers just don't develop players like this. Not at least in the past decade or more.
tdchi
Sun May 4 2025 5:22 pm EST
The Bolts will trade HOWARD. Not an 'if' but a 'when.' Probably at the draft. And depending on where he goes, he may turn pro. His problem with Tampa is that there's just no quick path to the NHL for him...certainly not in the top six. Very good player...I don't see a situation where he ends up in New York. I guess stranger things have happened...but I suspect the cost will be similar to McGROARTY's was, which is a top prospect or a first rounder in the top 15.
tdchi
Sun May 4 2025 5:08 pm EST
Schneidw yes Clarke was a weasel and dirty but he could still play!!! Bad example ok ! I have to think of others
vcp1994
Sun May 4 2025 4:32 pm EST
Colorado- The difference in Game 7 was the Stars scoring 2 PP goals and Avalanche scoring zero.... Dallas only had 19 shots on goal last night and looked defeated until Rantanen changed the tone of the game by turning R Lindgren inside out.. what a fast turnaround.
schneidw
Sun May 4 2025 4:23 pm EST
Rhetoric-- Good points on Panarin... I am guilty of making a leap w my frustrations of such a terrible year and placing alot of the blame on Panarin's indifference to defense, pressure, winning.... I recognize Panarin has brought offense to the NYRs, but he exemplifies all that is wrong w the NYR team and what Sullivan is inheriting...
schneidw
Sun May 4 2025 4:20 pm EST
VCP94- HA, the exception to the rule... plus as any self-respecting NYR fan knows, Bobby Clarke was a weasel that didnt plaly heavy or strong, he played dirty and hid behind goons like Dave Schultz... terrible example, and if that is the only one... statistically not a good pick by NYRs scouts/medical team.. right?
schneidw
Sun May 4 2025 4:14 pm EST
Schneidw his name is Bobby Clarke type 1 diabetic. I think he has a few rings?
vcp1994
Sun May 4 2025 3:43 pm EST
In regard to Isaac Howard: The reporting has been (Friedman?) that he is planning to go back to school for his senior year, so it's doubtful a trade happens. He wants to be a FA and then chose his new home. I'm sure most of the NHL will be in on this. You can never have to many talented forwards, am I right? I hear that the NYI's are very interested :)
Rhet0ric
Sun May 4 2025 3:38 pm EST
Schneidw... Sidney Crosby signed a deal at age 36 for two years at a lower cap hit than Bread and your disgruntled about it? I'm sure when Panarin hit age 36, he'll sign for much less.... If Bread was a home grown asset and not an UFA signing, we may have been able to sign him for less.... Fun fact: his prior deal and Panarin's were roughly the same percent of the cap.
Rhet0ric
Sun May 4 2025 3:05 pm EST
Panarin- $11.8M per year... Painful! Just seeing Sid Crosby makes $8.7M...
schneidw
Sun May 4 2025 2:59 pm EST
Kakko- We all hoped Kakko would develop into the same RW as Rantenen.... I still ask what are the chances an NHL athlete w Type 1 Diabetes can play at elite level.. its alot to ask.. I assume the NYRs have world class medical staff that reviewed the medicals, but then again, I assumed the NYRs have world class scouting and yet we lead the league in draft busts
schneidw
Sun May 4 2025 2:31 pm EST
Ouch! Hate to see it, but the game tieing goal by Rantanen was scored because he turned Ryan LIndgren inside out, it was ugly! Insult to injury to have Rantanen end up in Dallas and have a mega-game 7 while CO additions Lindgren, Brock Nelson, Necas were liabilities in the series. Avalanche have been a model franchise but damn, they have traded their next 2 first rounders, dealt their best prospects, and have huge $$ contracts limiting their options.. sound familiar?
schneidw
Sun May 4 2025 1:18 pm EST
Lack of skill…LOL Persimmon=Marcel Hossa. That’s where the comparison ends. Drury…the Gift that keeps on giving.
NYStranger
Sun May 4 2025 1:00 pm EST
E: Rants is a lot like Jagr, not total style, but that physicality that is almost passive. He doesn't go around looking to put guys into the third row, but he is willing to engage physically and absorb contact and fight through that he is a beast to handle. THats what Jagr did, and then you add in the skill and you get games like last night. There are other guys who play that way, but just don't have the skill to do anything with it. The Rangers actually have one of those in Parssinen, bigger guy, who isn't afraid of the boards or physical play, will fight through. But then the comparisons end. Parssinen does not have the burst of speed or the skill to make teams pay for it on a regular basis. Makes him a bottom 6 guys instead of an all star.
Wildcard
Sun May 4 2025 12:56 pm EST
JFC: OK fine. PP1. But over those 5 years not one player has tipped as many shots into the net as Kreider. Sorry, but Laf wasn't doing that. Not even going to get close to that. In those 5 years Kreider scored 50, and 30 multiple times. Last year Kreider was not good, but he also played on the 3rd and 4th line for long stretches, Laf was given PP1 time, Kreider was actually removed from PP1. I think assuming that Sully will just put him there is not defensible at this point. We have no idea what he is going to do with the players. However, if Kreider bounces back, or at least just bounces back at net front, then he SHOULD be on the top PP. To say the best net front deflector of pucks over a long stretch in the NHL shouldn't be on a top unit is silly. Also, I do not think any coach in the history of the NHL would have messed with last year's top unit...24% is damn good. Hell, the last few years before this last one the Rangers PP has been near the top of the NHL. NHL coaches don't mess with good units just to play a younger guy. Not happening. Last year I get the gripe. Kreider, Zib and others where struggling mightily on the PP, so I get the idea of trying new blood there. But as MANY here pointed out, Laf was not playing at his highest ability. Why would he be rewarded with top PP time? SO I kinda get a coach thinking "there is no way this top unit won't break out soon" Because even media folks and announcers from other teams said that. They would say "The rangers PP has been inexplicably bad this year, but you cant keep giving them chances because eventually they will start scoring again" and I think its human to get stuck in a mindset like that. I would have liked to see more changes to the PP, but again, I get the hesitation, at least for most of the season. But MUCH more than Laf I would have liked to see Cuylle on the top unit. If Kreider was injured as we now know he was, Cuylle was probably the next best plan for net front. That is the guy I am upset didnt get time there. Laf didn't earn it, and before last year when he was playing better, there was no reason to mess with a top unit that was scoring almost at will
Wildcard
Sun May 4 2025 9:46 am EST
PJ - I said Kreider,”…now blocks young wings like Lafrenière and Drury needs the cap space so he is definitely gone.” Both of those thoughts are 100% accurate. This team is loaded with young wings and Kreider now blocks them without justification. He was horrible this season, As for Lafrenière specifically, you said, “ Well suggesting that Kreider is taking time from Laff is total bullshit…Laff had plenty of minutes this season…” i didn’t say he was taking time from Lafrenière, I said he was BLOCKING him. I was referring to PP time and that is a fact. Lafrenière has been denied PP1 time for 5 seasons now and please don’t tell me that hasn’t been a detriment to his development. My thought to give Lafrenière an A is all about trying to get him to perform at a higher level by empowering & motivating him. Cuylle had a great season…if it ain’t broke don’t fix it. Laf’s season was broke…I’m looking for ways to fix it.
JFC31
Sun May 4 2025 8:00 am EST
cMark. I was being slightly facetious with the ‘other teams have found a way to win without’ remark. Obviously the three I mention don’t play for other teams. But to your point that you can’t say a team can’t win with player A, B and C, well we have seen plenty of hockey that suggests that that is exactly the case. Especially when it is players A+B+C on the same team! -plenty of evidence that these three come up short and now at their respective ages it will not get better and suddenly ‘click’ with Sully. If I was a coach being hired by Drury and was paying attention to the last few years in NY, I would demand a change of their core players before taking the job. This group has run 3 coaches out of town in 6 years. Not a good omen for an incoming coach!
NYStranger
Sun May 4 2025 12:02 am EST
Dallas took away the half boards. The Av’s couldn’t use their entry plays. They got forced to the walls and Dallas was winning the 50/50’s. Great job by Dallas. Injury depleted but still played a solid and disciplined game. Rantanan was just unstoppable out there. He’s huge, not overly physical but he just plays heavy. All of the time.
E
Sat May 3 2025 10:53 pm EST
I guess a choke job by COLORADO but a herculean effort by RANTANEN..Didn't open his mouth publicly before the game ..but you know internally what he must have said and how badly he wanted to beat his old team..Great job and Out-Messed Mess (who had Kovalev :))!!!,,,The better defensive and more physcally competitive team won...BTW, forever Ranger COLIN BLACKWELL was a beast during the series...:)
Hospo
Sat May 3 2025 10:47 pm EST
CM - A guy like O'Connor will take the place of REMPS who won't be long for the organzation(IMWO) .. They do need some speed but to me they need effective size up front even more if winning the East is ever a thought..Then again..neither DRURY nor SULLY has a clue how to do that...
Hospo
Sat May 3 2025 10:18 pm EST
Historic choke job. With 12 minutes left in 3rd period I would have bet the house on the Avs
Jake0104
Sat May 3 2025 10:13 pm EST
Colorado Mark can back me up. I witnessed 4 game 7 chokes when I was living in Colorado. And 2 of those were to Dallas. From 1996-2001 they win the cup twice. They should have won 3 or 4 between 1996 and 2003. You just cannot be up 2-0 in the 3rd and lose like that.
Bob
Sat May 3 2025 9:58 pm EST
Avs so much talent I wonder if the rantennan trade derailed them . Drurys nephew nice hold lololol.watch he is traded to rangers lolol
vcp1994
Sat May 3 2025 9:53 pm EST
Coloradomark..Well before rantannen hit traded lololol he was my choice
vcp1994
Sat May 3 2025 9:47 pm EST
Bednar
ColoradoMark
Sat May 3 2025 9:46 pm EST
Bernard will join the unemployed coaching club tomorrow
ColoradoMark
Sat May 3 2025 9:45 pm EST
Dallas in the Avs heads. Rantanen rubbing salt in the wounds. Sucks, I like watching the Avs. Not a fan of Dallas.
ColoradoMark
Sat May 3 2025 9:39 pm EST
VCP- so who do you replace Panarin with? Joe does that make the Rangers stronger? And his playoff numbers aren’t that bad.
ColoradoMark
Sat May 3 2025 9:35 pm EST
Coloradomark buddy. The issue is panarin not only disappears to a degree but he can be a liability on D . Of course you have to make the playoffs. If the rangers were a much stronger team then maybe he would be a better fit ???
vcp1994
Sat May 3 2025 9:34 pm EST
Lindgren got walked
ColoradoMark
Sat May 3 2025 9:31 pm EST
Story book for Rantanin
rngrsans
Sat May 3 2025 9:17 pm EST
By the way, I’d like a guy like Logan O’Connor of the Avs on the Rangers. Fast, plays hard, has some offense. I think the Rangers have been slow lately. I miss when we had guys like Hags
ColoradoMark
Sat May 3 2025 8:19 pm EST
HOSPO- agreed, but I don’t think this organization is rebuilding and I don’t think Sully was brought in to oversee that. Maybe if they are way out of it by the deadline, then maybe you trade Panarin (if he wants to go), but I doubt it
ColoradoMark
Sat May 3 2025 8:17 pm EST
VCP- I get that you think the regular season is pointless, but you do have to win in the regular season to get to the playoffs as we saw this year.. And to get there you need regular season offense. You take the net gain of the positives over negatives with Panarin.
ColoradoMark
Sat May 3 2025 8:13 pm EST
NUStranger: who are these teams that have figured out how to win? Florida. Yes, they are the current model. Let’s see if Toronto can take them down. The Avs. Tampa. The Golden Knights. Who else? Winnipeg looks great in the regular season, but on the brink of elimination. I get that the perimeter play drives us crazy, but the mythology that the Rangers are one of the small number of teams that doesn’t put a team out that plays hockey the way it should be played is a little dramatic. 1 team wins a cup each year. The rest fall short. There isn’t only one way to win a cup. I want guys like Sam Bennett as well, but I don’t agree with statements that “we’ll never win a cup with player A, B and C”.
ColoradoMark
Sat May 3 2025 8:10 pm EST
I do not like PANARINA's selfish play, ignoring of defense/backchecking, but he is one of the most talented players in the game and plays his ass off in the offensive zone..including ES...Other guys need to go before him.....BUT..as PJ mentiioned..if you are rebuilding....he is the guy that could bring back a lot...ZSOFT? please... Rangers will have to give up picks and they still might!....Kreider I think can return somethinng but just get the feeling that SULLY will want him back...we'll see
Hospo
Sat May 3 2025 8:04 pm EST
I don't hate panarin just feel he is strictly regular season player
vcp1994
Sat May 3 2025 4:49 pm EST
Well suggesting that Kreider is taking time from Laff is total bullshit…Laff had plenty of minutes this season and wasn’t once sat for his lazy ass play….He got paid and played like shit….Moving Kreider is fine as I believe his time may be done here but he wasn’t holding Laff back….Z also but have no idea how you do it with his money and term….Moving Panarin would be a mistake unless you are talking total rebuild….As was stated who is replacing all of this offense?….Nobody on the roster right now….Give Cuylle an A over Laff all day….
PJ
Sat May 3 2025 4:26 pm EST
Well you have to make the playoffs to win the cup, right? Who replaces Panarin’s regular season points? Cuylle? Lafreniere? Perrault? I don’t think so.
Bob
Sat May 3 2025 4:05 pm EST
Yeah time to move on from Panarin Z and Kreider. Sorry but five years of this perimeter crap hockey is too long. Offensive star? Well in regular season and in streaky spurts, sure. But I want the Cup. Plenty of teams have figured out how to win without these three ‘irreplaceable’ players and so can the NYR.
NYStranger
Sat May 3 2025 3:18 pm EST
This. I'm not sure what he'd cost, but HOWARD is a very good young player... I would definitely ask the price here...though the Rangers really don't need another wing: "BriseBois confirmed a report last month from Elliotte Friedman of Sportsnet that they’re unlikely to sign 2022 first-round pick Isaac Howard to an entry-level contract (via Recher). They’ll focus on trading his signing rights over the next year while he returns to Michigan State for his senior season. If they can’t sign or trade the Hobey Baker winner’s rights by Aug. 15, 2026, and he becomes an unrestricted free agent, the Lightning will receive a compensatory 2027 second-round pick (No. 65 overall) for failing to sign a first-round draft choice."
tdchi
Sat May 3 2025 2:44 pm EST
Andrei-- I don't hate Pararin, I just don't like his $11.8M salary, lazy commitment to forecheck and nonexistent defensive effort.... There is more to hockey than padding your statistics during the regular season against low level teams... Overrated!
schneidw
Sat May 3 2025 2:42 pm EST
Vladislav Gavrikov: I just noticed same age and some Russian team overlap w Igor Shesterkin... LAK have plenty of cap space so it will take something to see Gavrikov to leave LA
schneidw
Sat May 3 2025 2:07 pm EST
Will never understand where the hate for Panerin is coming from. Just imagine that you are the player that knows how good he is and that he bears the responsibility to carry the team offensively. Just think how heavy that responsibility must be. He knows that this fucken team will not score, unless he does something on the ice to drive offence. This is who Panerin is, the most consistent offensive player this team have ever seen. But folks want to " dump" his ass. Just wondering. Fine, Panerin is traded for picks, who is stepping in to recoup his 100 points? Where will the offence is going to come from? So if you are a player that knows he is getting paid to score points and that if you don't try, team will not score, so maybe idea would be to build depth that could generate offence to balance scoring, so that Panerin could get help and he does have to take chances? Again, you can win with one line playing the finesse game. But you need other lines to play more physical heavy game, especially checking and the 4th line. There got to be a balance. Just like you can't win with 4 lines playing grind hockey. Personally, I think Drury had recognize that and he working on building a bigger, heavier team. Will see. Only few month left before the new season is upon us. But agree with many. Bad season will result in a new GM taking over. It might not be a good thing folks are hoping for..
andrei
Sat May 3 2025 1:29 pm EST
Schneidw. I've been musing about jettisoning P for more than a year now...
rf4l
Sat May 3 2025 1:07 pm EST
Schneidw nope your not. I have been wanting to dump him for some time. Breadcrumbs is my phrase shame on you for taking credit lololol. A great regular season player.
vcp1994
Sat May 3 2025 12:26 pm EST
PANARIN-- I am on an island by myself with my desire for Drury to find a way to jettison Panarin... All that is wrong with the NYRs starts w Panarin and the Rangers have taken on his identify of ice capades style hockey... $11.8M for 1-dimenensional hockey... look at all the top teams, their highest paid players are 2 way players that lead by example and play hard, fast and strong. Panarin has rubbed off on ZBAD, Kreider, Lafrenierre... must stop now
schneidw
Sat May 3 2025 11:57 am EST
TD - I agree with you regarding Kreider & Z…they’re both gonna be jettisoned. With Kreider, it’s one season too late…his health issues will now kill his value…hence the adage about moving older players when they still have one good year left. Now the league sees him as damaged goods. If the Bruins are rebuilding, there is a good chance that even they won’t want him. Perhaps a younger team that feels it needs leadership. He now blocks young wings like Lafrenière and Drury needs the cap,space so he is definitely gone. As for Z, you can’t have a new culture when BIG remnants of the old culture are still in the locker room…especially if they currently wear a letter… so I think he’s a goner, too! Take his “A” and give it to Lafrenière and watch what happens…Lafrenière has to feel valued and giving him an A will,let him represent the young guys on the team. In Jrs. he was known for his leadership skills…then rangers have squashed that. Panarin is part of the old culture but he has never been a leader or worn a letter…plus he can score…so I think he will stay but one never knows, do one?
JFC31
Sat May 3 2025 11:45 am EST
Looks like we will we have two months to regurgitate possible moves...For better or worse, the main thing is for Sully and Dipshit to bew on the same page..I would guess that has already been decided...and I see three sets of related questions...one, does SULLY want ZSOFT and Kreider..and 2, do they deal disappointing youngesters (MIller, Laffy) for similar vtype players..and 3, how do they fix the defense..Drury amd Sully have screwed it up the past bunch of years individually, can they get it right combined??
Hospo
Sat May 3 2025 11:18 am EST
I think the biggest change we'll see is ZIBANEJAD getting moved. I just can't see a universe where him and his cap hit are moved to the wing, and JT MILLER is the team's new number-one center. I see them using that money to chase GAVRIKOV and BOESER, and signing a third-line center...DONATO was mentioned. Other names I'd look at them filling in there would be FREDERIC, DVORAK, BJUGSTAD(who SULLY had for a couple seasons), GOURDE, KUNIN and KURALY are all guys I could see dropping in there. KREIDER? I think they'd keep him if they didn't have so many wings...but for that reason and his age alone, I see him as being a cap casualty.
tdchi
Sat May 3 2025 10:59 am EST
Carson Soucy acutally has a Modified NTC for this season which carries a 12-team No Trade list. He seems very moveable to me.
Rhet0ric
Sat May 3 2025 10:53 am EST
The HAYTON thing...as I drunkenly tried to indicate last night...is pure fan fiction. Arizona/Utah has been VERY patient with HAYTON and last year, they finally saw that patience paying off. He had a career year and is now doing what he was drafted to do...why in the serious fuck would any team not GM'd by Mike MILBURY or Pete CHIARELLI trade the guy for a 33-year-old vet with back problems? Here's a hint: They wouldn't. If the Rangers were targeting HAYTON, the price would probably be SCHNEIDER or LAFRENIERE. Maybe MILLER. In other words, it ain't happening.
tdchi
Sat May 3 2025 10:49 am EST
I don't think JONES will be back...but SOUCY has an NMC, and VAAK was literally just resigned along with BORGEN. All three project to be in the Rangers' top six, and quite frankly? I don't see how you win a cup with that. You'd need career years out of MILLER, FOX and SCHNEIDER.
tdchi
Sat May 3 2025 10:24 am EST
Also, can we really go into next season with Soucy, Vaak and Jones on the roster? One of them should be the 7th dman and the other two jettisoned IMO. Soucy has a 3.25 cap hit too....DD is probably going to have to pay to get rid of that contract.
RDW
Sat May 3 2025 10:17 am EST
RF4L: If either Zbad or Kreider get traded I would hope Drury is only looking for a center or help on D in return. We really don't need another RW/LW. Is Hayton rumored to be on the block? I've mentioned it in the past but I'd love to see Z moved for someone like Bichsel on Dallas. I sure as shit don't want to see Z moved the the wing next year. We're paying him way too much for that IMO.
RDW
Sat May 3 2025 10:06 am EST
I don’t know if I agree that all players on a team have to be the same type of player. Panarin can be a weapon and if used correctly (not the innate running the asylum where he can play how he wants, extend shifts, and dictates when he is on the ice) can be an important piece on a good team. There are no teams that are constructed of an entire group that plays the same way, not even Florida, who we hear this mythology about. That said, Panarin’s play at times appears entitled and the allegations against him are inline with that type of guy. I’m hoping Sully, who had a rep as an a-hole when he was here and has worked with superstars successfully can reign in his selfishness and get him playing like he did in Laci’s year one.
ColoradoMark
Sat May 3 2025 9:44 am EST
JFC: Well said. I sure hope you're right. I think in order to accomplish that Z has to go and probably P, too. Those 2 epitomize the opposite of what you're citing - they are married to the east/west game and bring little grit, especially Z.
rf4L
Sat May 3 2025 8:09 am EST
What’s being touted on the positive end of the spectrum about Drury hiring Sullivan is that they are so close that their approach to how this team should play and the players who accomplish it will be in lock step. After they mutually analyze the roster together, players Drury has acquired and will acquire in the future will PLAY, they won’t be press boxed or get 6-minutes per game. If this is indeed the case, then this will be Drury’s last chance at grabbing the brass ring. We can see what kind of players Drury has been acquiring…players that represent his vision for how the Tangets should play. He wants the team to be harder to play against and be built for success in the playoffs. Trochek, JT Miller, Carrick, Parssinen, Soucy, Borgen and the Lafrenière extension all point to what he is looking for. If he and Sully are simpatico in that vision, then there will be no more excuses…Sullivan needs to get the Rangers to play a grittier, North-South style and he needs to get forwards and defensemen playing an effective defensive style that will support Shesty and not leave him hanging out to dry.
JFC31
Sat May 3 2025 6:58 am EST
Kreider for Hayton. Any takers?
rf4l
Sat May 3 2025 5:03 am EST
E - I don't know, Going through my memroy and the Pnens roster over the last 7 years there's not a single forward that Sully utilizied that I would consider physical...except for maybe the pest Patrick Hornqvist six years ago!!!..Rust and Mlking have been his bruisers and i son't consider them strong or physical....! He is so far behind the times in the way he trys to win in the NHL now....Can a decrepit old dog learn new tricks? we'll see
Hospo
Sat May 3 2025 4:53 am EST
ANDREI - True, my bad, but the argueent still holds..He has been shit for 7 years...and is just more of the same old warmed over crap Drury has been peddling (Gallant, Lavioleett ad now the guy that has slipped the most, SULLY)
Hospo
Sat May 3 2025 12:08 am EST
stevielegs.....i gotta say this.....when one is baked......your posts suddenly go from being somewhat cryptic to actually being poetic in a strange way.....
tradestar28
Fri May 2 2025 11:50 pm EST
A shame that the new circus is not coming to town….. https://nypost.com/2025/05/02/sports/john-tortorella-will-not-get-another-rangers-chance-despite-speculation/
Stevielegs
Fri May 2 2025 11:46 pm EST
Good luck to the new odd couple hairy and sally. Mr D was at least smart enough to give dreary only a 2 year extension, and not a sather for life contract. Even nose and dick ( the Nyr version of Sam and Dave) were smart enough to get out of dodge. Maybe the 100 year anniversary will be ok otherwise it will be deja vu all over again. Sally needs to keep DD away from the players, as he tries to adjust his training bra and worn out vest. MSG can start playing mustang sally as a new theme song.( and for DD the Beatles “ I’m a loser “) ….and for the duo it can be sam the sham and the pharaohs “woolly bully “)….
Stevielegs
Fri May 2 2025 11:09 pm EST
One of the sweetest, cutest, most adorable things…outside of when fans call players “studs”…is when fan bloggers go spelunking through the madness of the trade calculator on PuckPedia —and CapFriendly before it, RIP #FuckTheCapitals —and report on the unmitigated nonsense that is posted there as a “trade proposals.” For efficacy, the link to that’s “trade proposals” should be called Super Mega Happy Fun Fantasy Land” because they’re friggin’ nuts. No one is proposing anything. And Drury ain’t scanning PuckPedia for ideas…although his record sort of suggests he does. OK, I’ve contradicted myself. Carry on.
tdchi
Fri May 2 2025 9:42 pm EST
I think that article is how do we say bullshizzle? However, it did propose Mario Ferraro as a trade target. And that makes a lot of sense. For those who don’t know him, he’s one of the huge characters in the league. He’s out there.
E
Fri May 2 2025 9:31 pm EST
schneidw, mentioned Gabrikov weeks ago. He is really the only UFA d-man I have interest in. Let's just say that I'm confident that Panerin is not going anywhere. Speaking of Gabrikov. Him and Panarin are best friends going back to Columbus days.
andrei
Fri May 2 2025 9:02 pm EST
Schneid…If we are replacing Kreider and Panarin with Othmann and Laff I am not confident…At all…
PJ
Fri May 2 2025 8:57 pm EST
https://heavy.com/sports/nhl/new-york-rangers/trade-pitch-kreider-swap-deal/
schneidw
Fri May 2 2025 8:47 pm EST
Andrei…don’t know if that was slip of the tongue, but I think “Sally” Will soon become his permanent nickname name. In no time at all really. I hope I’m wrong, really do. I said the same thing before last season, and I nailed it. I’ve drafted better tha all Ranger GM coaches combined since McIlrath. The incompetence of ownership to management is beyond absurd. The team night get the new coach pop and hang around 6-8, but I’m doubtful. As long as Bromance stays put, I don’t see much to be hopeful for. Sally only adds to that hopelessness, not to mention tweedle Dee (DD) and tweedle dumb (Dolan).
NCRanger
Fri May 2 2025 8:46 pm EST
Hellebuyck getting shelled again in St Louis. 5-1…4 goals in second period….Could be pulled for the third game in a row in St Louis….
PJ
Fri May 2 2025 8:38 pm EST
Imagine being in Winnipeg right now with their goaltender situation? Yes, he’s great in the regular season but he sucks in the playoffs.
rngrsans
Fri May 2 2025 8:37 pm EST
Honestly I don’t know what to make of Sully’s plans in terms of skill and deployment. I do know that he has played quite a few Rust, Kunitz, Cole, Tanev etc… so if you look at Sully he seemed to like big physical players and to put them with his skill guys.
E
Fri May 2 2025 8:31 pm EST
andrei…You asking everyone what happened to being positive and objective is pretty funny….Hysterical even….The new board optimist….LOL….Keep it going….
PJ
Fri May 2 2025 8:27 pm EST
My Take and Useless 2 Cents-- One thing I do like about keeping Drury and hiring Sullivan is the NYR at least are establishing an identity with the Team USA focus... Going back to Herb Brooks, it is something unique to the NYRs and is a succesful strategy IMHO. With that stated, Drury needs to shed salary and create LW positions for Othmann and Lafrenierre, so figuring out a way to circumvent the NMC-NT clause and trading Panarin and Kreider is paramount to rebuilding the NYRs and picking up strong heavy players in Sam Bennet (C) and Vladislav Gavrikov (LD). Wishful thinking, there are not many UFAs and the market will be overpriced with teams like DET, SLC, LAK etc looking to add. When does Brady Tkachuk start trying to find a way to land on Broadway??
schneidw
Fri May 2 2025 7:59 pm EST
Hospo, I did niot say that Sally is the best coach in the game, but between available coaches, he was the best.
Andrei
Fri May 2 2025 7:33 pm EST
But...let's Oxford's Unabridged Dictionary weigh in: "sul·ly /?s?l?/ verb; damage the purity or integrity of; defile. "they were outraged that anyone should sully their good name"...mmm. Sounds promising.
tdchi
Fri May 2 2025 6:49 pm EST
But in a rare moment for the Wall, I will marginally defend andrei and Wild...they didn't say they 'best' coach...they said the 'best coach available...' I don't necessarily agree to that either, but it's at least debatable...somewhat. SULLY has two cups. That's one more than LAVIOLETTE and TORTORELLA, and two more than QUINN and GALLANT. I can't begrudge him that...and I think he's probably a better coach...especially for the team...than LAV was...That's not really saying much...again...I'd happily take whatever ribbing is due if this guy proves me wrong and leads the Rangers to the promise land. Who knows. Maybe the BU mafia connection will mean GM and coach are on the same page and build a team together...I think LAVIOLETTE and DRURY communicated and I think DRURY got that idiot what he wanted...I just think LAV sucked balls and DRURY's tinkering really soiled the soup...SOOOO...new beginning. We'll see. I think we will see a new Rangers in 2025...folks bring up the similarities between 92-93...and there's hope there...that's all we got right now...
tdchi
Fri May 2 2025 6:42 pm EST
The Pens had MALKIN, CROSBY, LETANG, KESSEL, and FLEURY...all in their prime. That's FIVE future hall-of-famers...in the lineup for both years. Plus HORNQVIST, DOUMLIN, HAGELIN, and COLE...also in their prime. Then they added RUST and then GUENTZEL and MURRAY to the mix. My fucking cat could've coached that team to a Cup.
tdchi
Fri May 2 2025 6:13 pm EST
ANDREI - Best coach in the game? A coach that hasn't been to the POs in 3 years?..hasn't won a PO round in 7 Years? Ices one of the softest and most boring teams in the game that can't compete with heavy squads? We obvioulsy have a different definition of great, or even good....ANd if you Love SULLY for his performance 8 years ago, please do not ever bust on ZBAD or Kredier or whoever for going missing in a month or even a year becasue, you know what, they had some good years long ago..They did it before...But, anyways, to each their own and i hope you are right... Personally, I wanted a coach that has won in the NHL (or somewhere else!) recently and likes to play the game that wins now and can beat the beasts of the East..SULLY fails on both counts..
Hospo
Fri May 2 2025 6:06 pm EST
Man, reading a wall and only impression you can get is that Rangers overnight had become the worst team in NHL with no future, with the worst coach in NHL in Sully and worst GM in hockey in Drury. Did I miss anything? Common, folks. What happened to staying positive and somewhat objective? I love Sully signing. Wanted him as a coach for years now. Wild, agree with you 100%. Sully was considered the best available coach and if his site was not set on Rangers, he could have picked any available job. He is a very good coach. You simply don't win back-to-back cup on just pure luck, even if you have the best player in the league on your team, ask McDavid. Interesting stats regrading "good" GM's around the league. Kings lost for the 4th time to the same team in the 1st round and have not won a playoff round since 2014, Wild have made playoffs 8 years in a row, but have not won a round, Tampa does not have 1st rounder for the next 3 years and it's core is getting older by the minute. I can just imagine if Rangers coach played majority of the playoffs games with 4 d-man and 8 forwards, like Hiller did with the Kings, and how it would have gotten recived by the fan base. Funny part about it, despite it all, Kings could have still put Oils away. So GM and a coach could not get on same page before trade deadline and get enough quality roster players to roll out 6 NHL d-man that coach has trust in?? WTF is going on in LA? Again, every GM make questionable moves. They all do, but some shit that other GM's do, is just a head scratches. rf4l loves his picks, just imagine if Rangers had traded 3 future 1st rounders and really have nothing to show for it and loose once gain in 5 games??? Drury might not be the best GM in the league, but he is far from worst. I'm eager to see what he will do over the summer. Salary cap is now down to about $8.4 mil. Moves will have to take place.
andrei
Fri May 2 2025 5:13 pm EST
Lost in the SULLY news, hold your breath, the Rangers extended this Parsinnen character for two more years..Another Finnish schlub like Vaatinen that Drury "has had his eye on"...Parssinen will have to tone down the physciality he showed for 1 or 2 ofthe meaningless games at the end if he wants to impress Sully
Hospo
Fri May 2 2025 5:09 pm EST
Folks let's see what happens!!! I am neither positive nor negative..This should be Drurys last hire so there is that.
vcp1994
Fri May 2 2025 5:00 pm EST
E - and that system of "pace" is better off with playing small fast guys (like the hohum berrards and OTHs) which is further and further away from doing what it takes to win in the EAST..and why SULLY's teams have failed 7 years in a row....OTOH, hopefully he likes the speed of REMPS, but SULLY has had zero use a REMPs type player in the past..He'll probably end up out west
Hospo
Fri May 2 2025 4:45 pm EST
I can see Rangers throwing big money at Bennet but how much will be left in the tank when he gets here? Another player Drury slept on when Calgary traded him for pennies on the dollar.
NYStranger
Fri May 2 2025 4:41 pm EST
Retirement plan is in place…” Believe Sullivan’s contract is for five years - and is the highest annual salary for a coach in NHL history.”…DD is damn desperate. I hope sully takes his job and an act of karma. Mr D will not be happy without getting in the playoffs next season.
Stevielegs
Fri May 2 2025 4:36 pm EST
Sully at least plays a 2-1-2 and focuses on pace and pressure. A big step from last season.
E
Fri May 2 2025 3:58 pm EST
DREW oh well have to try another zoom.
vcp1994
Fri May 2 2025 3:37 pm EST
TDCHI - The thing is..I think Kreider and especailly ZBAD fit SULLY's mold of the positional, finesse teams with good Special teams that he has iced in the last 7 years to no avail..I think BENNET is as far away form SULLY's mold as a player can be....MALKIN, OTOH, Isn't..:)..As for Kreider, of all the teams in the NHL, he has scored the 2nd most points againt PITT..Like I said befroe, and you just said, SULLY migh want to keep the Boston boy despite Drury's efforts/thoughts..I hate the SULLY move, but the dweeb incompetent GM and the has been coach have to be on the same page about players like Smith (Drury) and Keenan (Sully) were..only way it can work..Drury never got the right players for Laviolette...Is it becasue he thinks he knows better than Laviolette and now Sully whhich players make winning teams....all evidence point to him being dead wrong...
Hospo
Fri May 2 2025 3:30 pm EST
Hospo Ha! Good points. In the end? I think DRURY is going to need to get this team back to the conference finals in the next two years...if SULLY can't do it? They're both gonna be booted.
tdchi
Fri May 2 2025 3:28 pm EST
jnyr - Totally disagree. I think we'll see some wild shit this summer. Not necessarily good shit, but wild shit. I also think that if DRURY could find a home for TROUBA as quickly as he did, moving KREIDER and Z will be like squeezing out a fart after a bowl of beans...KREIDER is the one I question...SULLY knows him...he may want to keep him...but I suspect Z is a goner and so is K. They need the cap to chase BENNETT or someone else who fits SULLY's mold, whatever THAT is. Very seldom do you see a turnover in coaches and NOT a turnover in personnel.
tdchi
Fri May 2 2025 3:10 pm EST
NYR where coaches go for retirement pension after winning some place else
Jake0104
Fri May 2 2025 2:53 pm EST
Sully may not know much about Berard, Perrault, Othmann, and the Pack, but being in the Metro he claerly knows everyone else on the roster and how the players and team has evolved over the last 5+ years. So, he shouldn't need much time to "ramp up" and discuss personnel moves and draft pick advice fight away, right?
Ranger47
Fri May 2 2025 2:30 pm EST
Wildcard - You are acting like this whole wall didn't live through the TORTORELLA era. We all know SULLY. We all know what he does, what he's done, and what he will bring. And we're generally all of the same belief that he's more of the same, which is to say an old-school coach who is resting on the laurels of tow cups won a decade ago...You can put your ear to the ground and listen to the pundits. But these same idiots were hailing LAVIOLETTE as a great pickup. This is a lateral move and any fan who knows SULLY can see it. Hey. Like I said, I'd LOVE to be wrong. Absolutely would tickle me. In fact, I said a very similar thing about both of his predecessors...A little less full throated than I am with SULLY, but that's because I KNOW this guy. He's already been here. I mean, shit dude. Pundits said the same stupid bullshit about Lindy RUFF when he was signed by New Jersey...and then Buffalo...THIS IS A GREAT COACH!!! Yeah, OK. then why is he unemployed? the Pens didn't part ways with him because they thought he was god's gift to coaching. They parted ways because they wanted someone new...You bring up COOPER? Well, there's a reason he's not unemployed...it's because he's fucking good. Real good. Teams keep good coaches. They can the ones who no longer bring anything to the table.
tdchi
Fri May 2 2025 2:25 pm EST
DREW.... I am hoping that Drury lets SULLY evaluate the team first before he makes the next round of moves. I am not okay with Drury thinking he knows what this team needs. Look at how mediocre our defense currently is after his brilliant deadline deals. Fingers crossed.
Rhet0ric
Fri May 2 2025 2:22 pm EST
And just to be totally honest, I was the biggest, irritating voice against LAVIOLETTE on here when he was hired for some of the same reasons I wanted nothing to do with SULLY...WAS I wrong or right?....Long term and ultiamtely, I was right....but Laviolette, though i hated his player handling and his vet favoritism, did get the team to play together and adhere somewhat to a system in the 1st yeat...and i gave him props for that...Until everything he did was almost entirely wrong the 2nd year.....and he just looked soooo out of touch with the play/game....Time will tell with SULLY and his retread flunkies joining hime
Hospo
Fri May 2 2025 2:18 pm EST
"Drury went the path of first time HC and it blew up." <---he did not. He hired two retreads and now a third one.
tdchi
Fri May 2 2025 2:15 pm EST
TDCHI - I hear ya....We pretty much agree on the merits of the choice..by "cover your ass" I guess I kinda meant that DRURY can insolate himself from criticism by saying, hey look, i paid the highest price ever for a future HOF caoch who is still the best coach in the game (or was, until 7 years ago!)..So, no my fault if we fail...Although it will be! becasue this coach is no longer THAT coach in today's game and because of the players, the soft core, and the marginal/depleted organization DRURY is responsible
Hospo
Fri May 2 2025 2:15 pm EST
"Anyway, you look at rangers fans here and other places, and you would think Drury just hired a no name bottom of the list guy that no one had any interest in." <----Or maybe...JUST MAYBE...some of us remember SULLY when he was here the first fucking time.
tdchi
Fri May 2 2025 2:13 pm EST
Rhet0ric - When CROSBY likes you. That's when it happens. Bah. Maybe that means Sid the Geriatric Old Man comes here in 2027...
tdchi
Fri May 2 2025 2:11 pm EST
Oh lord. If it's SULLY, QUINN and TORTS?!? HO-LEEE fuck. Gonna need a new server for the Wall, because I'll be filling it up.
tdchi
Fri May 2 2025 2:08 pm EST
DREW - My guess/spec is that, in a major fuck up, the aging and snore core will remain...THe only iffy one is kreider..marked for death by Dimwit Dipshit Drury,,but he (like ZMOPE) has always succeeded against SULLY and the soft Penns....I can see SUlly wanting the Boston kid to stay....ANy deals, IMWO, will be of younger players that have value (MILER, maybe Laffy) for other smaller, shifty young players....I also see Mini-mes like OTH and BERARD getting big shots although i expect little out of them.....Oh, and don't be surprised with a MALKIN aquisition! All that said, i would love to be surprised by a totally different direction...!!!!!
Hospo
Fri May 2 2025 2:06 pm EST
Drew: I don’t see many changes happening. Kreider is 33 years old with a bad back. What teams wants that? We have to hope he improves on his own. How much of last year was Lavvy and how much was Kreider? A year ago we were retiring his number after the playoff game in Carolina. As far as Zbad, his contract makes him untradeable. To old to much money to many years left. The big knock on Z all these years was that he was not a number 1 center. Now he does not have to be….he slots at 2. I would put him in the 2 hole but make earn pp time. Fox needs to pull his head out of his ass, way too lackadaisical. Maybe he is still hobbled from the injury. His game in Boston was fucking brutal. And we paying this guy like he is a Norris trophy winner and he has not resembled that level of play in quite a while
jnyr
Fri May 2 2025 2:06 pm EST
Hospo - Kinda disagree with you...somewhat...I don't think this is a cover-your-ass pick...rather the exact opposite: Shoot the moon. This is DRURY's last chance before he lands on the hot seat and he's thinking to himself this might be crazy enough to work...this is a choice of a desperate man.
tdchi
Fri May 2 2025 2:00 pm EST
I am sorry, I just don't get it....Are people just ignoring what this guy has done with HIS team the last 7 years?..A team he had mega control over..And a team that was still trying to win and not tanking (untill this past spring)..The last 3 years of NO POs? And perhaps the softest/weakest/most boring/anti-winning team in the NHL? All this after Not winning a round in the 4 years before that? How does that even deserve a new job, let alone deserve 5 years? And at all time record contract? Only the now and performance should matters..not 8 years ago.....Th old Ranger way of paying for past perfromance and reputation in the days of UFA......Sad...
Hospo
Fri May 2 2025 1:41 pm EST
vcp - the PRESSER is your failed ZOOM meetings?
DREW
Fri May 2 2025 1:14 pm EST
Well this year ought to be interesting if nothing else. We need three D to start . Please dump fox. Forwards let's play Scrabble.
vcp1994
Fri May 2 2025 1:11 pm EST
Are we invited to the presser ??? Is there a presser. Will Drury hide at the presser all this on the next episode of SOAP
vcp1994
Fri May 2 2025 1:07 pm EST
EVERYONE - How do you guys think this changes Drury's (and Sullivan) approach to the off-season. is this THE major change and he comes back with more or less the same roster? I feel like this increases Kredier's chance to return. (Could be a good thing - not sure). Is there more changes to the "meat and potatoes" team Drury is looking to build? Even if K'Andre Miller resigns, I do not like our Top 6 D
DREW
Fri May 2 2025 12:42 pm EST
I’m not sold on this but if he can unlock Laff’s potential then I will be onboard. Till then Drury is an Ass
jnyr
Fri May 2 2025 12:37 pm EST
td: You just bashed the guy then said the team was all pome player in Crosby. Well, no, it takes a good coach to bring a team that is basically 1 injury away from total collapse to a point that they can even think of being in the post season. This isn't to say he is the greatest ever. But PIT has a shit roster. Outside of their big 3 they haven't had much at all. They have no depth, their top guys are well past their prime. Its the systems put out by Sully that had them competing. And I don't get this whole 1990's reference. He was talked about as a guy that changed the way coaches coach, and systems used. He is not a 90's coach at all. His game is about moving north, passing the puck to make things move faster towards the zone and getting the puck in deep and going to get it. Not chip and chase, but more push the pace, get up the ice and if there is no play get it in. THats exactly how teams win NOW. Lavy is more of a 1990s type guy, he was OK with the east west stuff, even when he said he wanted them to get the puck in deep, he set things up for east west passing, no way, no how they had so many set plays with that sort of thing without him doing it. IF and that is a still an unknown, Sully can get the Rangers to play the way he has had PIT playing, the rangers will be much much better.
Wildcard
Fri May 2 2025 12:30 pm EST
NYStranger: THats basically where I am. Thrilled? no. But Sully is a good coach. Anyone saying that now is only saying that because they don't like Drury. Is he a perfect coach? No of course not, but those do not exist. He will bring a different look, he will use players differently when they deserve to be used differently. When all said and done would it have been better with a different guy? Who knows, maybe, but maybe any other guy would do worse. Would a first-time head coach be confident enough to make the waves moving vets out of their comfort zone? Sully will, he has in the past. I think a big thing for this evaluation will be who his assistants are, and then how he deploys players BUT, IN THE SEASON, folks need to not overreact to every little move in camp and preseason. He is going to start with what was there prior most likely, that only makes sense, players will be more comfortable as they learn his system in camp and will be able to show their best and then he will know them and be able to tinker. My bet is the first few practices will have people saying, "more of the same" and then pre-season games will get us different looks at what he is thinking about. Then after the first few weeks of the season we will get a good look at what he thinks is the best lineup.
Wildcard
Fri May 2 2025 12:28 pm EST
I'll say this: I've been wrong before. Plenty of times. And I really, really, REALLY hope I'm wrong here...WOULD ABSOLUTELY LOVE TO EAT CROW HERE...Feast on it, in truth...but Mike SULLIVAN is a fucking idiot. He's another in a long line of goddamn braindead NHL coaches who forget that 30-plus years have elapsed since the early 1990s. He's not a tactician. He's TORTS Jr. in many ways. And as someone mentioned, I think any one of us could've coached his two Pens teams to a cup. The Pens SINCE those teams have not been particularly noteworthy. In fact, the 2021 Pens SHOULD HAVE beaten the Rangers. But the minute CROSBY went down, they folded. And therein lay my concern with SULLY: If this is another guy that is going to ride his top players for 20--plus minutes a night, we're going to get the same bell curve that we got with GALLANT and LAVIOLETTE...which is some initial success and then a plummet back to earth. Again, I keep going through this guy's teams and searching for what his appeal is to the Rangers and the ONLY three things I can come up with is 1. He has two cups; 2. He's a familiar name; and relatedly; 3. He's part of the fucking BU mafia.
tdchi
Fri May 2 2025 12:27 pm EST
DREW I think we can breath a sigh of relief Cooper is staying in Tampa…
steve443c10
Fri May 2 2025 12:22 pm EST
WILD - as always I appreciate the friendly reply. I will actually share a story from just this morning at my daughter's school. I saw a teacher that loves the Rangers. I said hello and then we talked some Rangers - I asked what HE thought of Sullivan and he LOVED the hire. I, then asked about Drury and he can't understand why he wasn't fired and thinks he should be. So he loved the Sullivan hire which has A LOT to do with Drury but doesn't want Drury as the GM. I just think this team in 2022 seemed to have this long window about to open to be a perennial Cup contender for several years and fans are just down. I haven't totally went anti-Drury. My lack of enthusiasm has more to do with Dolan. There seems to be the type of players that Drury wants to mold this team around (JT Miller, Trocheck, etc) so I am kind of curious what will look like coming forward.
DREW
Fri May 2 2025 12:12 pm EST
Can’t say I’m thrilled, but at least Sullivan has a pulse and a couple of brain cells. I just hope for the best because no matter how much I bitch I am still a diehard fan.
NYStranger
Fri May 2 2025 11:58 am EST
COMark: When it comes to the PP I think as a head coach Sully has always given the task to an assistant. Also, who knows what marching orders Torts gave to him. He may have wanted to make changes and was told not to do certain things. In any case, the PIT PP was just a hair under 26% and the 6th best, and just 0.1% off Tampa's rate for 5th. That's with very much aged top guys out there. You can't tell me those guys are so incredible still that more mobile PK units couldn't keep up. That was system induced at least to an extent. So either someone on his staff did it all, or he has learned since his poor PP in NY...likely its a bit of both. Lets hope its more his ideas and less his assistants, because that guy may not be coming with him!
Wildcard
Fri May 2 2025 11:50 am EST
DREW: the only folks who don’t think sully was the best available are the ones from team with no coach who hate the rangers. Come on. And I never said I was thrilled. I said I had my list of who I wanted. But this idea that silly is a bad hire. That it means they can’t win. It’s asinine. It’s a mental health issue. It really is. This hatred for Drury has gotten so deep in many peoples minds that he could have read everything they have ever written here and done every single thing. Exactly how they said and even called them to get more details. And they would end up talking shit about his moves. You and I both know this is true. No matter what he does they will rip it. And if Drury had gotten fired, they would start up on the new guy before he did a single thing. Jsut like they will get on any coach before they even know the plan. Stop pretending there is any logical thought going on for many folks. Again no. I am not “thrilled”. Is Sully a good hire. Yes. Because he is a top coach. It’s low hanging fruit to say he hasn’t had a team go on a run in years. But look at the roster he has had to do it with. Hell, a season where this walk RIPPED the coaches because they didn’t get the cup, the Pens took this team to the edge in the first round, without their top goalie, with injuries across the board. With an injured Crosby even. The Pens have been a one line, 3 player team for half a decade. Everyone wrote them off as finally falling to the bottom of the NHL for years now. Somehow they are always fighting until the end of the season for a playoff spot. With a roster with zero depth and a massively aged top end. His system Is what allowed them to compete and to plug 3rd line guys in to positions and have success. Will he be enough to get the rangers over the hump? I don’t know. But the chances are the same or better than a guy who has never even had the job at the NHL level. Coaches have a learning curve as well. There is always a chance that some first time Hc could come in and click. But who? You can’t know until you put someone in place. Big time risk. Where as Sully is known. He has shown he can coach a team and get more out of the team than the sum of its parts. The rangers roster this last season on paper was much better that PIT. Yet they had just 5 less wins. I know the rangers fell flat, and PIT did not. But that’s sort of the point. The Rangers don’t fall flat for two months mid season and they are playing right now. Probably top 3 in the metro after the devils injury issues dropped them down. This wall blamed the coaches a lot. A whole lot. Said Lavy wasn’t able to make changes and get the team ready and all that. Well. Now there is a new coach known to be able to get his teams ready. To keep them playing hard. And I’m supposed to pretend that isn’t the case jsut because Drury choose him?
Wildcard
Fri May 2 2025 11:45 am EST
rf4l - Stapleface is an Islander fan so no surprise there.
DREW
Fri May 2 2025 11:45 am EST
Can't say I am excited about Sully. While he seems like a good coach, I was hoping for a young guy that would change things up, but with the players under contract the Rangers are hoping to be contenders next year. They aren't doing a rebuild. I just don't know if Sully alone will do it. I kno wpeople are hoping DD trades Z, but I just don't see how it is possible this year. Kreider might be pulled off the fire with this move, but I think they need the cap space. I just remember Sullybeing in charge of the PP under Torts and it was a disaster!
ColoradoMark
Fri May 2 2025 11:44 am EST
proofs = proves
rf4L
Fri May 2 2025 11:44 am EST
FWIW, I've no problem with the Parsnips new contract. Easy to bury in the minors if need be and if he actually proofs to be a solid bottom 6 forward, a bargain.
rf4L
Fri May 2 2025 11:42 am EST
Well Stapleface is embracing the Sullivan hire so there's that...
rf4L
Fri May 2 2025 11:36 am EST
Persimmon resigned for 1.25 per for two years. About where I thought he would end up. I think I had him at 1.5 on one of my cap rosters and 1 on another version. Not a bad deal. New coach and new system may get more from him. Worst case he gets waived and sent down and they would carry just 100,000 in cap (next year $1,150,000 can be buried)
Wildcard
Fri May 2 2025 11:35 am EST
Wildcard - even you, the most optimistic fan can't be thrilled with Sullivan. I mean you can't knock this wall for their criticism. I don't agree or have read that the entire hockey world says Sully is the best coach available, In fact, most non-Ranger fans have been criticizing this move. Wild, (you are sick of me saying it, I leaned pro Drury with some criticisms). The fans on this wall want the team win badly. If they thought Sullivan was a good choice they would rejoice. I cant speak for everyone but this was a safe hire that essentially delays this team winning a cup. You are good with stats and counter arguments but this one will be tough to justify. Everyone on this wall has been right for years re: Quinn, Gallant and Laviolette. Even during the ECF runs - this wall recognized the flaws.
DREW
Fri May 2 2025 11:08 am EST
Hospo: Expect Shneider to step up his physical play. He admitted that part of his game was lacking as he worried about his shoulder. He already has the mindset that he will be more physical, and mindset is probably the most important part of physical play. Anyone of any size can play physical if they want to. O ly impact is affected by how they are built. Morgan is physical. Soucy is, I know I know he sucks terrible worst ever in the history of the NHL. But he is much better in a zone defense and zone is what Sully will want. Miller is an issue physically, not that he gets pushed around or plays scared, he doesn’t, he just isn’t aggressive. Fox isnt but that’s not his game nor should it be. So that leaves the 6th spot. Who knows who will be there. But the NHL overall doesn’t have teams with more guys who are physical than the rangers are on the back end. Yes teams may have a heavy hitter back there who hits harder and meaner than the Rangers now. But fans ran that guy out of town…so maybe it’s a good lesson.
Wildcard
Fri May 2 2025 11:04 am EST
Dd is on a roll with mayo….. https://www.nhl.com/rangers/news/rangers-agree-to-terms-with-juuso-parssinen
Stevielegs
Fri May 2 2025 11:03 am EST
Big DD better keep sully away from the pp . His Nyr history is not good.
Stevielegs
Fri May 2 2025 11:01 am EST
Ranger fans an amazing. The ENTIRE nhl world hell the entire hockey world says Sully is the best coach available. Hands down. No question. The only guy that would have challenged him is in Tampa, and it was just announced he isnt leaving, and it’s likely the league knew that before today with all then back channel communications that goes on. Anyway, you look at rangers fans here and other places, and you would think Drury just hired a no name bottom of the list guy that no one had any interest in. Now. At least one person on X said it best. Many rangers fans hate Drury so much they have short circuited their brains to hate anything he does. And I agree. I know that there are people here who have never given their top choice for coach by name. But will now, if they haven’t already toss out names Drury should have gone with. But if Drury had gone with one of those the same people would be ripping him right now for not picking Sully. You k ow who you are and you k ow I am right on the money. There is absolutely no critical thinking taking place. The contract is rumored to be 5 years. The current corse as it is has one year left max, then there is another year that it could be close. There is 1 year left on Panarin and 2 on Kreider. They likely don’t reading Bread. U less of course he takes a MASSIVE pay cut to stay. And Kreider is likely gone this summer, though I could see them hanging onto him hoping for a rebound if the offers are too low. Sully is here to get the most out of the vets while the window is still open (and yes. Yes it is) as well as usher in the next wave, the new core makeup. That’s the goal. It isnt a rebuild. It isnt a reset year coming up. Drury went the path of first time HC and it blew up. He wasn’t doing that again and we all knew it. I had a few assistants and Carle at the top of my wish list, but understood that they were all long shots once Sully became available. The only other coach out there anywhere near his level is Quinville. And NY was never going to be his return point. Nor was it going to be any other major hockey market. But anyway, Sully is one of the best NHL coaches and ripping Drury for getting him is silly, even for someone like me who had other guys on my own list that I wanted. That still doesn’t make this a bad hire.
Wildcard
Fri May 2 2025 10:56 am EST
In regard to Mike Sullivan: Not my first choice but I am okay with this. He's not another AV or LAVI.... It's not a disaster and it's not the end of the world. He should make up for a lot of Drury's shortcomings with the players. He's been good at developing kids in the past and he's also good with Vets. It doesn't mean he wont do stuff that will piss us off, just like any other coach :) ...The guy was Head Coach in Pitt for nearly 10 years. When does that ever happen anymore?
Rhet0ric
Fri May 2 2025 10:47 am EST
Emily Kaplan says Torts not coming with- too many pussies on the team for him is my guess. Mike getting 5 year contract for record money. Not bad for a 2 year gig!
Puckyou
Fri May 2 2025 10:46 am EST
Forget about bad for a second, I thought the Rangers were as boring and unlikeabale as shit last year..And now with The King of Pansy hoockey (that has failed miserably the last 7 years)and a milk toast defense while the rest of the East will stay or get heavier and physical on the baack line?...well, it should be a blast.....Then again the self imressed SULLY is a legend in his own and Drury's mind...Hoping they can change their spots
Hospo
Fri May 2 2025 10:20 am EST
Stevie... LOL... I miss those Torts press conferences. He has mellowed a lot since then..... I've actually read that Quinn is interviewing for the PITT job. He will not be coming to NY.
Rhet0ric
Fri May 2 2025 9:39 am EST
Where’s the Dairy Queen rumor. They can sing hail hail the gang’s all here. ( the gang that couldn’t shoot straight)
Stevielegs
Fri May 2 2025 9:39 am EST
LOL steve - you and I share the same fear...this is such a let down. This entire wall knows this is a boring, bad, F-YOU to the fans hire. I almost feel like Dolan has people read the wall and other Rangers' forums and do exactly what we fear. This something, I am now certain, we will never experience, but if hell froze over, and this team wins a Stanley Cup, I could picture Dolan telling the fans F you, I was right. He has a weird fetish for being defiant. He destroyed Cablevision, Nobody Beats The Wiz, Radio City Music Hall and now his hockey club. Once the Knicks meet the Celtics, they will be done. He sends memos to broadcasters who criticize him on his network.
DREW
Fri May 2 2025 9:37 am EST
I’m not sure but I think talkerella is rumored to be an advisor not an assistant coach. Maybe he will be in charge of pr and press conferences…. Lb duck….
Stevielegs
Fri May 2 2025 9:34 am EST
Drew - yes agreed! Lol
steve443c10
Fri May 2 2025 9:31 am EST
Also, I could see this whole scenario being cooked up at 4 Nations over dinner with DD, Sully and Torts…all happened too quick.
steve443c10
Fri May 2 2025 9:30 am EST
steve443c10 - Thu May 1 2025 11:58 am EST
DREW
Fri May 2 2025 9:27 am EST
docjay, tdchi - I was born in 1974
DREW
Fri May 2 2025 9:26 am EST
Nightmare scenario, Cooper gets fired and hired by Iceholes. If nothing else Sully and Torts should be entertaining…DD needs to rebuild defense, we have none right now.
steve443c10
Fri May 2 2025 9:25 am EST
C'mon folks at least he isn't fat lololol
vcp1994
Fri May 2 2025 9:02 am EST
In regards to Kevin Weekes and Emily Kaplan reporting about Tortorellaa: Just playing Devil's Advocate here, they both said that they heard that Torts was joining the NYR's and then they came to the logical conclusion that it was going to be a part of Sully's staff. That makes sense, but what if it's not? What if the NYR's offered him another position? Dolan loves Torts and maybe he's just tired of all the travel. I find it a bit odd that Tortorella didn't at least try to get another HC position and went straight to being an assistant. I mean heck, even Quinn is trying to get a HC position. Food for thought.
Rhet0ric
Fri May 2 2025 9:01 am EST
I wouldn’t doubt the quiet weirdo GM looks at Z and Kreider and thinks they will become Crosby and Malkin under Sullivan .
shonuff
Fri May 2 2025 8:53 am EST
But, the Bromancers and the soft core will rise again!!! Where do REMPS nd CUYLLE end up....????
Hospo
Fri May 2 2025 8:51 am EST
A fucking joke.The laziest, most short sighted, cover your ass, pick a name and nothing else choice.....What a fucking doomed franchise....7 years of total losing with a boring, soft team he molded...and this old fucking retread, has been gets a raise and the plum job with an original six? Unfuckingbelivable...OTOH, Dip Shit DRURY got the same exact treatment after ruinning the team nd organization into the ground.....Makes sense I guess
Hospo
Fri May 2 2025 8:41 am EST
Talk about repeating mistakes….Hire Laviolette after Caps fire him due to a dismal performance…Now the same thing with Sullivan….Meanwhile ignore the success teams are having with younger coaches….
PJ
Fri May 2 2025 8:32 am EST
Everyone Is mad now ? Wait for 2 years when Sullivan is fired and replaced with Lindy Ruff
shonuff
Fri May 2 2025 8:27 am EST
My joke is now reality- John Tortorella reportedly hired by Rangers with Mike Sullivan.
Cnparda
Fri May 2 2025 8:26 am EST
TD: Agree completely re Laffy v. Stutzle. You can't take an elite talent who has dominated at every prior level and bury him on the depth chart without diminishing his development. As I've said before, the performance of Laffy and Kakko, both consensus #1 and # 2 picks in consecutive years, says volumes more about the Rangers than it does about either player.
VtRanger
Fri May 2 2025 8:22 am EST
docjay - LOL I'm there man. I'm RIGHT there...
tdchi
Fri May 2 2025 8:14 am EST
Oh FFS.
tdchi
Fri May 2 2025 8:05 am EST
It’s official….https://www.nhl.com/rangers/news/mike-sullivan-named-rangers-head-coach
Stevielegs
Fri May 2 2025 6:57 am EST
Vince m…” The #NYR haven’t confirmed or announced anything officially yet, but it sounds like things are getting close and very much trending toward Mike Sullivan becoming the 38th head coach in franchise history.”
Stevielegs
Fri May 2 2025 6:26 am EST
yes indeed- moose dupont, curt bennent , dennis hextall, red berenson, syl apps jr , jack egers, hartland monahan , battleship kelly , juha widing , barcly plager , don luce , all for aging veterens and marginal 4th line players in an efort to win that elusive stanly cup , by 1975 the team was aging and had no young corps of talent to replace the older guys who were declining . not to mention horrible drafting like selecting 155 lb normand gratton over dan maloney who went with the next pick to chicago and immeditly made an impact
docjay
Fri May 2 2025 6:17 am EST
tdchi- funny comment , you bring back memories of how in 1974 i was so angry at emile francis for trading away all our youth and toughness that i seriously contemplated sending him a package of cat shit
docjay
Thu May 1 2025 11:57 pm EST
LA Kings gagged again. Lost to Calvin Pickard.
Bob
Thu May 1 2025 10:25 pm EST
I swear...if the Ducks hire Dave CARLE and the Rangers hire SULLY...I'm going to send Jim Dolan a bag of shit. One taken, mind you, after going on an all-chili diet.
tdchi
Thu May 1 2025 10:13 pm EST
Do coach's salaries count agaisnt the Cap? Hope not...For sure, the Rangers will have the highest and oldest staff anywheree..That's how you win, you throw money at the problem and buy reputation and long ago success..,and don't fix the real problem--the GM and his players..Although, yes, the latter can still be done..but with Drury, not likely...ANy chance that the Sully/Torts choice is driven by somebody other then Dickweed Dipshit??
Hospo
Thu May 1 2025 9:59 pm EST
The Laffy of last year, yeah, was not even close to STUTZLIE..but the LAFFY of the year before showed the confidence, skill, pace and strength that made him real close....It's in there...Hope Laffy and whover the coach is can bring it back out...if he's not dealt..
Hospo
Thu May 1 2025 9:56 pm EST
TD. Exactly.
rf4l
Thu May 1 2025 9:39 pm EST
STUTZLE v. LAFRENIERE is a great example of nature versus nurture. You put talented young players in a position to succeed, and most of the time, they will. STUTZ was always an incredible player...but if you're second-guessing why LAFRENIERE was picked, then you probably don't remember how incredible he was. LAF, when he was 14-15, was thought to be a CROSBY-type player...generational. And while that shine certainly dimmed a bit before the draft, he was not only the CLEAR first-overall pick, but by many lengths. You could've made an argument for drafting STUTZLE over BYFIELD...it wouldn't have been a strong one, but you could make it...still, to pick him instead of LAF would've set the internet on fire. Scouts around the planet would've been slapping their foreheads and scraping their jaws off the floor...anywho...the Sens did with STUTZ ***EXACTLY*** what the Rangers should've done with LAF and yes, KAKKO. They said kid, go out and play hockey. Don't worry about the playoffs. Don't worry about anything. They gave him a CLEAR role from day one, and then gradually increased it as he got more comfortable. Granted, Ottawa is NOT New York...but the teams were essentially at the same point when those two came into the league...only in New York, there was a coach who decided Colin BLACKWELL was a better option for second line than either of his two young talented players...and then when he blew his fart, the next guy that came in decided that Dryden HUNT was a better option for second line then either of his young players...it took that stupid fuck getting fired to get LAFRENIERE into the top six. Oh there were AAAAAAAAALL kinds of excuses...Like we couldn't POSSIBLY play LAF on right wing...he might get confused...we couldn't POSSIBLY drop KREIDER down or ask PANARIN to play right wing...The point being, LAF was left to flounder on third line at a time when he should've been skating 16-17 minutes a night. And he only jumped up to that kind of ice when the team more or less gave LAVIOLETTE a mandate to play the guy....And even now...today...he STILL doesn't get time on PP1 He STILL doesn't play 18 and 19 minutes...So if you see LAF in a malaise and you're wondering why he can't be like STUTZLE...well, you can that the asshole leadership of this team for sticking him with three consecutive moron coaches...soon to be a fourth. LAF is the player the Rangers made him...STUTZ is the player the Sens made him. Talent from the start? They were almost identical...and if anything, LAF was MORE talented.
tdchi
Thu May 1 2025 9:35 pm EST
Not a fan of Torts by any stretch, but the thing about Torts is that he does have a very good feel for players and he will identify players who have no business being on the team and he will ride them hard. Maybe this is exactly what this fucken team needs. Cleanup the stench of entitlement.
andrei
Thu May 1 2025 9:18 pm EST
Jake0104, why??? Panerin for years successfully played under Torts so no issues there. It is ZShit that should be getting ready to book the room in the dog house. Maybe that NT will quietly be waived after all.
andrei
Thu May 1 2025 9:18 pm EST
Anyone who's been here for more than a few turns around the sun could tell you I ain't no fan of TORTORELLA, so I suppose you can take this with a grain of salt...but one of the things I never believed was this notion that he's some sort of defense-first coach...I always believed his defensive acumen here was more about him essentially adopting Tom RENNEY'S system...some may recall the team went from RENNEY's play-it-safe approach to TORTORELLA's safe-is-death 'system'...I use quotes here because that's another thing I never believed about TORTS was that he had or has a system...but I digress...I remember the team went from being defensively sound to an absolute trainwreck...And then when he came back for his first full season? Suddenly we were watching the Tom RENNEY system again...only with an edge to it...Anyway, I tried looking at TORTS' goals against record on the Rangers and afterward, and while he did have a pretty good record...he also went from having LUNDQVIST to LUONGO to BOBROVSKY, and the MERZKLIKINS, who is no slouch. The first time he really didn't have a solid goaltender was in Philly and...well...that didn't go all too well...
tdchi
Thu May 1 2025 8:45 pm EST
If Torts is coming Panarin is a goner
Jake0104
Thu May 1 2025 8:12 pm EST
Right now, Tim Stutzle is twice the player Laffy is.
VtRanger
Thu May 1 2025 8:10 pm EST
Stutzle: I have been in denial w my NYR and Lafrenierre bias, but watching the OTT-TOR series confirms to me that Stutzle is far superior in every facet of the game and its not even close... Lafrenierre's slow pace, lack of hustle, weak defense and perimeter play really stands out after watching Stutzle fly around the ice, create opportunities, and skate hard and fast...damn!
schneidw
Thu May 1 2025 8:06 pm EST
This is what use to happen after the circus, there was mess of elephant shit to pick up.
Stevielegs
Thu May 1 2025 7:44 pm EST
SUlly AND TORTS? So are they gonna ignore the huge issues with the personnel and think these two old school has beens (and I like TORTS) will fix everything just by their pfesence???......JFC - And you can have coaches that know how to teach defense..but if you have substandard D-men like Soucy, Vaakinen, JOnes. Borgen (if anything but 3rd pair) even Fox physically and a top forward who couldn't care less about defense, well, it may not matter much....
Hospo
Thu May 1 2025 7:31 pm EST
JFC. Unibrow? So you don't respect BB? ;^)
rf4l
Thu May 1 2025 7:17 pm EST
And I’d have no problem with Torts being responsible for teaching these douche nozzles how to play defense as long as Torts takes a back seat and doesn’t deal with the press.
JFC31
Thu May 1 2025 7:15 pm EST
I’ve always had bigger fish to fry than complaining about Rosen & Micheletti. Both always struck me as good men with class so I never felt the need to call them names or complain about them…I only care about what the players are doing. I’m happy to have Mary’s kid doing the games going forward…he sounds a lot like his dad and that’s a good thing. I think Maloney deserves a chance to replace Micheletti but I think Boyle would be good, too….but, Dave has paid more dues than Brian UniBrow. No surprise that Sullivan will soon be named coach. I just read that there’s a good chance Cooper will go to Utah because he is c'ose friends with the owner.
JFC31
Thu May 1 2025 6:58 pm EST
Sally and Torts are coming to NY, round two..
Andrei
Thu May 1 2025 6:37 pm EST
Drury driving this franchise deeper and deeper into the ground
jnyr
Thu May 1 2025 5:32 pm EST
So apparently Joe knew he was returning most of the season. He kept the at to himself, or at least out of the news and close to the vest. Like him or not as an announcer. That was classy. Absolutely zero sharing of any spot light from Sam.
Wildcard
Thu May 1 2025 5:28 pm EST
At least he isn't fat and can skate lololol.therwise who cares
vcp1994
Thu May 1 2025 4:58 pm EST
I want SULLIVAN to be the coach and then we can get TORTS as an assistant coach. A bit of a role reversal but it’s a dream scenario. JK.. based on history, SULLY will be fine the first year.
Cnparda
Thu May 1 2025 4:44 pm EST
No fan of Sullivan I couldn't care less anymore. He had stars big fuckin deal.
vcp1994
Thu May 1 2025 4:43 pm EST
Sully is/was so predictable. I can only hope to god this is wrong, but so know it isn’t. DD has to be the most incompetent GM in the league. Like you can’t make this shit up. After all of the fiasco’s this season and falling out of the playoffs our GM get rewarded with an extension. And then allegedly hires a coach that hasn’t done shit in the last 6-7 years and rode 2 elite/1 generational player in their primes to 2 cups. That’s his only highlight. I’m pretty sure I could’ve coach that Pitt team to a top 4 finish, seriously. Interesting take on meritocracy here. I mean holy fucking idiocy at the highest level. This team must be the most poorly run franchise in all of sports. As I said last year, and this only strengthens my position, dark years incoming.
NCRanger
Thu May 1 2025 4:07 pm EST
DREW - Nah, I like MALONEY...and Yes, Smug Douche Is Mr. Stick Detail Valliquette....my point there was, credit to them, I thought both got on the Rangers a little in the 2nd half of the year in addition to Michaletti.......TDCHI I think we're fucked with the has been out of tocuh SULLY, but how much control/say will the cups give him compared to incomptent and organiaztion destroying DRURY?? liek I said yesterday, can easily see Sully wanting a soft skill-based Penguin like team and also eeping the entire core intact including Kreider to Bromance ZSOFT, both of whom always do well against the patty cake Penguins
Hospo
Thu May 1 2025 4:04 pm EST
That is great news.Bye michelleti
vcp1994
Thu May 1 2025 3:48 pm EST
Wow the Michiletti news snuck in. Perhaps I’m giving the man too much credit. I know he wasn’t everyone’s favorite especially those of us who grew up with John Davidson. However, perhaps he did have a genuine friendship with Sam, even though their chemistry did not come through the broadcasts. Maybe he wanted to give Sam his deserved acknowledgment throughout the season. Hospo I was reading your post you don’t like Dave Maloney.? is smug douche. Valliquette? War just another reference to Drury?
Drew
Thu May 1 2025 3:38 pm EST
LOL. Like SULLY coming to the Rangers is a scoop. The only thing that surprises me a bit is that the Pens weren't able to bilk our moron GM for draft capital to negotiate with this stiff. The only reason I can see they HAVEN'T announced this yet is that SULLY is still trying to exact his pound of flesh from DOLAN. That dude probably sent Jimmy pictures of his two cup rings as his resume. Oh and the Rangers dipshit social media team...who unfortunately weren't fired with LAVIOLETTE...they're probably still swishing around the gushing, pandering, bullshit posts they're drafting to verbally felate this retreaded coach of yesteryear...I feel about him just a bit worse than I felt about LAVIOLETTE...that man, I got a bad feeling...but maybe...maybe...maybe...he'll prove me wrong. LAVY sure as fuck didn't.
tdchi
Thu May 1 2025 3:30 pm EST
Maybe Joe got braver because he knew he was retiring...
rf4l
Thu May 1 2025 3:30 pm EST
DREW - LOL! Nah, that's healthy. You and I both had to suffer through the 1980s on Long Island, and there's no amount of time that will wash away that stink...my only difference is that I embraced functional alcoholism and recreational drug use...But seriously? The Isles are going to take more than a little bit of tweaking. They're in ROUGH shape...Bridgeport has come to represent the city where the team lives...just a dump. And their pipeline is bone-dry. Cole EISERMAN is the only guy close to being a sure thing. Danny NELSON is good, but his potential is far from certain. They got Calum RITCHIE, who is another who shows promise...but the fact that the Avalanche were so quick to trade him suggests to me that they know there's a significant hole in his game...yeah, I never discount a team with BARZAL, DOBSON and SOROKIN. HORVAT still has tread. ROMANOV and HOLMSTROM continue to show promise...but then after that? It's a fucking plunge to the bottom. They're going to need to get a solid three or four drafts in before they have enough bodies to fill the holes they have and will be getting as dudes like LEE, CZIKAS, PALMIERI, MAYFILED and POLUCK, PAGEAU and...well...pretty much the rest of their roster ages out in the next two years or less. Shit is going to get A LOT uglier on Long Island before they see the light of day. In truth, they probably should just deal BARZAL, SOROKIN and DOBSON and do a full rebuild.
tdchi
Thu May 1 2025 3:30 pm EST
Not gonna lie, but I kind of dig the Joe Micheletti retiring news. That said, it's kind of weird. He was just announced as part of the team for next season and then he retires? I hope it was his decision and it wasn't a medical thing or pressured into retirement kind of thing.
Rhet0ric
Thu May 1 2025 3:29 pm EST
I think Michaletti got a little too critical of the Rangers late in the year and had to go...OTOH, Maloney and Smug Douche are still around..so I shouldn't look a gift horse in the mouth!
Hospo
Thu May 1 2025 3:19 pm EST
Best news today!!! Joe Micheletti retires!!! Good riddance!!
andrei
Thu May 1 2025 3:02 pm EST
JT Miller is attempting to qualify for the U.S. Open. Not a joke, he's supposed to be a very good golfer.
Rhet0ric
Thu May 1 2025 2:51 pm EST
* there
fotiu22
Thu May 1 2025 2:51 pm EST
Drew- I'm sure it's been discussed on the Wall but Cooper went to Hofstra University down the road from the Mausoleum so he has ties to the Island...not that they play their any longer. But I also think Tampa is crazy letting him go if they do in fact do so.
fotiu22
Thu May 1 2025 2:46 pm EST
Oops. I cannot believe it's the former...
rf4L
Thu May 1 2025 2:46 pm EST
I see nothing as of yet declaring Sullivan has been hired. Agreed, though, that doing so fits Dreary Drury's MO.
rf4L
Thu May 1 2025 2:45 pm EST
Cuylle invited to the Canada world championship team. Laf did not get an invite and LB is reporting that it's not clear if he was asked and declined or not asked at all. I cannot believe it's the latter - unless he's hurt that would be a very big mistake on his part AFAIC. If it's the latter, that surely should be the final straw in the desperate need to wake the phuck up.
rf4L
Thu May 1 2025 2:41 pm EST
SULLY will be a HUGE fucking mistake..Repeating DRURY's history of woe..a total Loser the last 7 years...a name, nothing else.....when was the last time SULLY even attmepted to ice a "heavy" team?..you know, the type of teams you have to get through in the East to play for a Cup? Hasn't played 1 heavy/tough player in like 5 years, and no wonder they have been a disaster..and a boring one at that....The only "heavy" was likley MALKIN (who could be a Ranger) and nobody else...Ooops, I forgot, CHAD RUWHEDEL..likely to be in the Top 6 again!...Remps gone, just hope we keep CUYLLE...SOmebody else PLEASE scoop up Sully..He's a name..nothing else
Hospo
Thu May 1 2025 2:07 pm EST
Although it looks like it will be Sully, one guy that I had completely forgotten about until I saw today that he interviewed for the Duck's job is former Oiler coach Jay Woodcroft. 48 years old, regular season record of 79-41-13 with the Oilers (14-14 in the playoffs), four seasons of AHL head coaching experience (105-71-21 with one Calder trophy) and a bunch of years as an assistant with Edmonton, San Jose and Detroit. Not saying he's the right guy--just surprised he's fallen so far off the NHL radar.
VtRanger
Thu May 1 2025 2:02 pm EST
Worst kept secret in the NHL. Even Jim Rutherford was commenting about it. Can we stop saying that Drury doesn't leak now?
Rhet0ric
Thu May 1 2025 1:41 pm EST
Looks like Sully will be the next coach of the NYR. According to Vince, things are are getting getting close and trending towards Sully.
andrei
Thu May 1 2025 1:35 pm EST
Drew: Yes!!!
rf4L
Thu May 1 2025 1:13 pm EST
rf4L - sort of like a less successful version of us?
Drew
Thu May 1 2025 12:14 pm EST
Drew: Well the bad news is ownership finally woke up and fired old tired no success for 20+ years Fat Lou. Who they replace him with will be interesting. There is some talent in that organization (stud goalie and top dman plus Barzel and a few others) but they are quite thin overall. There's lots of work to be done there for sure. Get the wrong guy and they're looking at years of treadmill running.
rf4L
Thu May 1 2025 11:58 am EST
Rhet/td - I am definitely (probably) smiling reading your replies. tdchi - my Islander sickness isn't enough for an intervention? I am having the stomach gurgles imagining the Rangers rushing to hire Sullivan, and the Islanders winning the draft lottery, hiring a good GM and Cooper. I will need some of rf4l's suggested medicine he offered during NYI vs TB Part 1 ECF.
DREW
Thu May 1 2025 11:55 am EST
IMO, the only way the NYR's luck into Jon Cooper is if he decides he's gone as far as he can go with the LIGHTNING and wants a new challenge. He'd basically have to choose us. Maybe we also get lucky and Boston becomes a player for Sully. We'd basically have to have a lot of things go our way and what are the chances of that actually happening? :)
Rhet0ric
Thu May 1 2025 11:38 am EST
Drew...;.; That impression is spot on :)
Rhet0ric
Thu May 1 2025 11:21 am EST
RF4L - LOL, and talk about another fucking dipshit. That fuckstick is one legacy and a vaginal hair away from being that moron vloger.
tdchi
Thu May 1 2025 11:19 am EST
DREW - LOL we're gonna need to get you an intervention if you keep watching that guy. I'm pretty sure he causes worse brain damage than taking whip-its in quick succession. I just can't with these Jon COOPER rumors. Like, this guy is one of the most successful coaches of modern hockey: One Calder Cup, two Stanley Cups, **FOUR** trips to the cup final, ***SIX*** trips to the conference final, and he's missed the playoffs only twice in his 13-year stint as Tampa's coach...if Tampa cans him? That's an acknowledgement that they are basically looking to rebuild...which is kind of silly for a team that ran into the maw of a Florida Panthers team that is essentially cheating the salary cap. Anyway, if they were stupid enough to fire him, the Rangers would be bat-shit crazy to not hire him. That guy has made Tampa work with a roster that has swung from unbelievably strong to one that is held together with duct tape. Sure, having KUCH, HEDMAN and POINT...and VASILEVSKIY is a great core...but man...the team they have...what he's done with it?! Yeah. Bonkers. So DipShit Dominguez or whatever his name is...he's a fucking idiot.
tdchi
Thu May 1 2025 10:46 am EST
FWIW LB speculating today that if Cooper is let go, he'll likely end up in Utah. Apparently he's tight with the owner. Of course, such a relationship is fodder for rumours...
rf4L
Thu May 1 2025 10:43 am EST
Current rumours have the Ducks for whatever reason interested in Quennville...
rf4L
Thu May 1 2025 10:13 am EST
Rhetoric - YOUR insider, Darius Domingues, is blinking that Jon Cooper is coming to the Rangers but then said it's not likely. He also said definitely, probably Mike Sullivan is the next coach, or probably, definitely.
DREW
Thu May 1 2025 9:57 am EST
Y'all keep mentioning the Bruins...Again. They have Jay LEACH *AND* Joe SACCO. If they don't intend to hire SACCO, they'll take LEACH.
tdchi
Thu May 1 2025 9:52 am EST
I actually like Vince Mercogliano a lot. He's a straight shooter. He doesn't take that smarmy vicious tone his asshole counterpart at the Post takes. He presents information unbiased and his opinions, when he uses them, are clearly voiced as such. I can't say I've ever read something he's written and said 'this guy is an idiot.' And that goes with his assessment of DRURY. Do I agree with his conclusions? No. But...I understand how he reached them...like the COPP deal. I'm right next to RF4L in saying that deal SUCKED. Bad. Sucks even worse if you start Monday-morning-quarterbacking the draft picks this team gave up...while the guys Winnipeg picked don't look to be doing much...the Rangers could've had a crack at Isaac HOWARD, Owen BECK and Seamus CASEY were all fantastic picks around that area of the draft...and that second rounder? Ouch. That could've been Lan HUTSON...BUT...if you're looking at the deal at the time...JUST how it impacted the team...There's no question: The Rangers wouldn't have made the conference finals without COPP, injured as he was. Also not sure where they would've landed in the standings without him...Also, as crazy as it sounds, DRURY kind of missed a landmine not signing that guy. He's been just a hair above dismal with the Wings, and not worth even half his $5.6 million salary...which...went to Vince TROCHECK...so two sides of the coin? One side says he got his team Conference final experience and then had the wherewithal to pass on COPP to land TROCHECK...and all it cost him was a bottom-six forward and what essentially was two second rounders...OH and the icing on the cake? He also landed Dylan ROOBROECK with the pick the Jets sent back...a 6'7, 210 pound center who just got done scoring 20 goals in his first AHL season as a 20-year-old. Food for thought.
tdchi
Thu May 1 2025 9:46 am EST
If we are not "redoing the rebuild" by trading vets for young players, I can't see DD hiring anyone but a vet coach. Even if we assume he's "going younger", can he risk a young coach failing without him getting fired (though, conversely, it might give him protection form being fired since the expectations for the young coach would be lessened).
Ranger47
Thu May 1 2025 8:59 am EST
RF4L - We can only hope other teams are hot for SULLY, TORTS, Quenville..Even moreso, although it is DRURY's incoompetence that has destroyed the Rangers and the entire woeful organization, that somehow Dipshit and his inexplicable extension has convinced DOLAN that he needs 3 more years to turn the team and organization around from the way it was run to the ground by his predecessors..ANd then maybe, just maybe, looks at younger coaches who are right for the nHL game ..Who the fuck am I kidding??
Hospo
Thu May 1 2025 8:48 am EST
Rhet: Maybe (hopefully) they're eyeing Sullivan!
rf4L
Thu May 1 2025 8:41 am EST
I don’t think Carle wants to leave Denver. NIL is available to hockey teams too and DU has affluent donors. He has total control there. There is a lot to,like about living in Colorado.
Bob
Thu May 1 2025 8:38 am EST
So, the Bruins reportedly passed on David Carle pretty quick. They seemed all hot and heavy for him and just as quickly, they weren't. It makes me wonder if he's not ready to leave College Hockey yet.
Rhet0ric
Thu May 1 2025 8:14 am EST
Hospo: Which Ranger media writer isn't a pansy-ass? Perhaps TD's nemesis LB but even he pulls his punches.
rf4L
Thu May 1 2025 8:12 am EST
I like the MM idea, too but agree with the sentiment that Dreary doesn't have the balls to go that route.
rf4L
Wed Apr 30 2025 8:12 pm EST
Hospo - I would hire MALHOTRA is a friggin' heartbeat. I have a feeling he's a guy who will be a very good coach one of these days...THAT SAID...Never. No way. Move would be to forward-thinking for a friggin' jabroni like DRURY.
tdchi
Wed Apr 30 2025 8:01 pm EST
Y'all know who SAVVY coached right? Will CUYLLE. They went to the CHL finals together. CUYLLE captained that Spitfires team. That said? I would be FLOORED if DRURY took him over SULLY. Like jaw-dropped dumbfounded.
tdchi
Wed Apr 30 2025 7:51 pm EST
Bob just made two ridiculous saves against Tampa. He can definitely turn it on in the playoffs.
Cnparda
Wed Apr 30 2025 5:26 pm EST
Won't even waste my time reading an article by Vince M. who's pretty much a pansy ass propoaganda machine....That said, it's never about analyzing individual trades--both off season and deadline (where Drury was a huge failure)...and UFA signing (more often then not Drury screwing the pooch and bringing in liitle but Carrick, Quikc, and a declining Tro on the positive side of the ledger) and extensions (BIG FAILURE with ZSOFT and others not lookign good either)..it's about the sum of the parts..the leadrship..the caoch...the TEAM put together and the end result of achieving or not achieving goals....Two coaches crashing and burning in 3 years? One semi decent season with insufficient help at the deadline sandwiched between two faceplants and choke jobs--one at the end of the second Gallant year..the other the entire 2nd year of Lard Ass's tenure...And why? the right players were never acquired..the right type of team was never built ..was never given to the coach,...all identity and leadership lost in the last year...,and that, my friends, is all on DRURY..It will continue..
Hospo
Wed Apr 30 2025 4:44 pm EST
I doubt I’ll even read it. Vince just might be getting paid by the Nyr. Maybe he wants to be the next lb .
Stevielegs
Wed Apr 30 2025 4:30 pm EST
I just read the article too (thx Rhet). My thoughts: No way is this a push: TRADE – Acquired F Andrew Copp and 2023 sixth-round pick from Winnipeg for F Morgan Barron, 2022 conditional second-round pick (which became a first), 2022 second-round pick and 2023 fifth-round pick. It's a ridiculous overpay and a HUGE loss. He also called the Zbad extension a push - it was for a year or 2 but now it's shaping up to be a horrid loss. How could he call this a push: TRADE – Acquired F Vladimir Tarasenko and LHD Niko Mikkola from St. Louis for Blais, RHD Hunter Skinner, 2023 conditional first-round pick and 2024 conditional third-round pick? Horrible trade. It might have been a push if he'd resigned Mikkola but he didn't. What's really hurt Dreary IMO is his silly deadline deals (prior to this past season) where he gave up way too much future for way too little now.
rf4L
Wed Apr 30 2025 4:16 pm EST
Rhet: Thanks for the link. The analysis is flawed in at least one way; it's actually an old sales trick of getting someone to put down the plusses and minuses of making a decision... It is not weighted. For example, if you are given the reasons to buy a new car and there are more plusses than minuses but ONE of the minuses is "I can't afford a new car". you need t say NO. Many of DD's decision have been really bad ones outweighing the equal number of positive ones. AND, this does not take into account the "non-decisions" such as going into the POs without enough physicality on the team (or a PP and defensive system which worked). Many times it's quality and not quantity of deision which matters!
Ranger47
Wed Apr 30 2025 2:43 pm EST
I don't agree with VINCE on all of his takes (for EG. I definitely put Jack Roslovic in the Loss category. Acquiring a better forward could've meant everything in the postseason for us). It's still a pretty good read .... "Analyzing Chris Drury's tenure as NY Rangers' GM through every signing and trade".... https://www.lohud.com/story/sports/nhl/rangers/2025/04/29/chris-drury-ny-rangers-gm-critical-analysis-of-every-signing-and-trade/83324983007/
Rhet0ric
Wed Apr 30 2025 12:29 pm EST
Drew: That's an interesting question. I know he's done a good job with the Leafs PP and seems well liked by the Toronto media. Is he ready for a head coaching job? I honestly don't know. It's Berube who talks to the media so it's difficult to get a sense of how Savard communicates and his overall demeanor. And does he even want the job??
rf4L
Wed Apr 30 2025 9:59 am EST
schneidw mentioned Savard a few weeks ago and of course the input isn't limited to RF.
DREW
Wed Apr 30 2025 9:58 am EST
RF4L - you seem to have some insight on the Maple Laughs - I know others have brought his name up but is MARC SAVARD someone who is ready for a head coach position?
DREW
Wed Apr 30 2025 9:19 am EST
Rangers most productive draft picks since 2012: 1. Pavel Buchnevich - 458 points 2. Anthony Duclair - 314 points 3. Brady Skjei - 280 points 4. Alexis Lafereniere - 193 points 5. Filip Chytil - 170 points 6. Kaapo Kakko - 161 points 7. K’Andre Miller - 132 points 8. Ryan Graves - 118 points 9. Braden Schneider - 69 points 10. Will Cuylle - 66 points
JFC31
Wed Apr 30 2025 8:10 am EST
Howden another Dreary giveaway scored the OT goal for Vegas last night.
rf4l
Wed Apr 30 2025 7:52 am EST
If the hockey gods have any mercy in them please do NOT let Sullivan be our next coach. If Dolan demands a retread then wait and see what falls out in Tampa.
gene_carr
Wed Apr 30 2025 6:55 am EST
Stevie... It never got that far in Pitt, he was just a candidate. The NYR's promoted him to associate GM and also put him in charge of Hartford to entice him to drop out of consideration.... and then that was all she wrote for two former 1st round picks.
Rhet0ric
Wed Apr 30 2025 4:06 am EST
If I remember correctly DD was going to be the shitsburg gm but instead sather and Mr D decided to hold on to him. Otherwise sully and dreary would have been a duo. Now it’s going to be in their minds destiny. And then the possibility is talkerella and/or Dairy Queen join him and become the prodigal sons. If they are willing to kiss DD’s ring, they will be hired. Then they will become the dream / nightmare management team. Unfortunately Mr D rewarded ( temporarily) DD, which means that the Nyr and the fans will probably have to wait until he is gone. Hiring a good gm and coach that really are leaders and respect their players led by a captain that will be when the chances of real success and having a perennial contending TEAM go up . That’s creating a positive culture and chemistry that is needed physically , emotionally, mentally. From what I have heard guys like cooper , Maurice , and some others understand that and do it.
Stevielegs
Wed Apr 30 2025 2:25 am EST
Because we all now that only 55 year old retread/has been can be succesful in the NHL with vets stars and not rising young bald (kidding) coaches like CARBURY from WASH...Again, hiring SULLY is a lazy, stupid, short sighted, doomed, PR friendly move
Hospo
Wed Apr 30 2025 2:20 am EST
As an alternative, Take a flyer on former Ranger, and one of my faves, ST. MANNY of Guelph!!....I know there's zero chance of that happening but i hear he's a top candidate for the CANUCKS opening....I had zero clue he had risen so high in the coaching ranks........President of Hockey Operations Jim Rutherford said that Manny Malhotra is on the team’s short list. Aside from spending three years with the Canucks as a player, Malhotra has additionally spent three years as an assistant coach with the club and this season as the head coach of their AHL affiliate, the Abbotsford Canucks"
Hospo
Wed Apr 30 2025 2:13 am EST
I know SULLY is basically a done deal because of his NYR/Drury connections and his Stanley Cups long ago--but talk about another doomed, lazy, short sighted hire by The King of Incompetence Chris Drury....you, know, hiring a guy who has had zero success in the new NHL..you know, a guy who has guided his team OUT OF THE POs for the last three years and not winning a PO round over the last 7 years...Does it sound familiar to DRURY's last Hire? This team is fucked
Hospo
Tue Apr 29 2025 10:37 pm EST
NJD 4-1? Why did they even bother to show up?
Rhet0ric
Tue Apr 29 2025 10:27 pm EST
Atleast Devils are done
rngrsans
Tue Apr 29 2025 9:27 pm EST
Leafs 1-13 in series clinching games since 2018….Yikes!
PJ
Tue Apr 29 2025 9:23 pm EST
AM34 and Lilly invisible. Again. Leafs curse = Rangers curse = I'm a loser....
rf4l
Tue Apr 29 2025 9:15 pm EST
If the LEAFS lose this series, would it really shock anyone? At this point, it seems like it's in their DNA. Talk about a team that needs a psychoanalyst.
Rhet0ric
Tue Apr 29 2025 9:05 pm EST
At least I have 1994 what does the maple leafs fan have if they blow this series they must start all over again
Jake0104
Tue Apr 29 2025 8:37 pm EST
Sens up 3-0 late in Toronto..
PJ
Tue Apr 29 2025 8:11 pm EST
Devils hanging by their fingernails. I dislike Cooper but recognize his abilities so I am a yes I am a no on Sullivan.
Jake0104
Tue Apr 29 2025 8:03 pm EST
NYStranger - That's the thing...when a team is winning? It has "culture." When a team is losing? They're a bunch of losers. It's just a stupid platitude that idiots like that YouTuber use to sound like they know what they're talking about...like with the Rangers? Nobody was complaining about 'culture' in May 2024. And that team? Almost the same team that looked disinterested and complacent.
tdchi
Tue Apr 29 2025 8:03 pm EST
Tampa would be nuts to fire Cooper…I call BS on that rumor….
PJ
Tue Apr 29 2025 7:54 pm EST
Look, you don't need to be goddamn Columbo to put the pieces together with SULLIVAN...The dude left Pittsburgh. He literally coached DRURY. He's got a couple cups, which was one of the same goddamn stupid reasons that schmuck flippantly hired LAVIOLETTE...AND...he's part of the BU mafia. In truth, the only reason I can think that they HAVEN'T announced SULLY yet would be that maybe he's negotiating money...I'll say this: my skepticism with SULLY is even greater than it was with LAVIOLETTE and GALLANT before him...I just don't see what the big deal with this guy is...having MALKIN, CROSBY, LETANG, FLEURY and KESSEL in their prime...And then getting gifted GUENTZEL and SCHULTZ...Would be a bit of a miracle if he didn't win a cup...But whatever. I guess we'll get retread three. Who knows. I thought this dude sucked goat balls when he was hired by Pittsburgh and I REALLY didn't think his dumbass was going to win one cup, much less two...but hey...Who knows. Maybe he's the right fit for the right time...But count me as being exceedingly and extremely skeptical.
tdchi
Tue Apr 29 2025 7:53 pm EST
Culture? Well they DID play as though they were taking a stroll through the Louvre!
NYStranger
Tue Apr 29 2025 7:40 pm EST
"What the Rangers need is culture..." HA! Dude, right there. That's your clue that this guy is a fucking boob. The team this year started with 14 guys who went to the conference finals...TWICE...in three years. Culture?! What they desperately needed was a coach with half a brain and a GM who knew how to plug holes. Culture. What a fucking idiot. Sorry DREW, that dude is a fuckin' flapping anus.
tdchi
Tue Apr 29 2025 7:37 pm EST
Jake….regress. But yes, I hear ya and agree. I trade him. It’s time to turnover the roster and make some bold moves. Cooper would be very interesting and worth the wait to see if it’s true. Retool. Move out old Swiss cheese guard. Elevate youngsters and cultivate their growth w/ real ice time. A cooper hire and McDavid in a year. As John Davidson would say….oh baby. But lest, we have a moron running the team….so it’ll be Sully (and prob Quinn, lol) and more vet stroking and promoting. Clueless ownership and leadership.
NCRanger
Tue Apr 29 2025 7:13 pm EST
Lardass going to apply for the open positions or stay home and enjoy Mr D’S money happily wasted by DD ? Let all the rumors fly and everybody circle to the left. Where’s lb and his nyp exclusive breaking news?
Stevielegs
Tue Apr 29 2025 7:09 pm EST
i see the NJD are up 3-0 early in their bid to stave off elimination. Wonder if they can hang on?
NYStranger
Tue Apr 29 2025 7:08 pm EST
It is a rare feat to have a HC win a Cup with two franchises. Enough odds are against the Rangers as it is…so unless we are talking Cooper (who I can’t stand BTW but recognize his success) I would stay away from the Sullivan’s of the league. Unless of course we can’t get rid of the looser Bromancer Core and are screwed for the next 5 years anyways….
NYStranger
Tue Apr 29 2025 5:55 pm EST
Latest rumour has it that if Tampa loses, Cooper will be out as a head coach. Interesting, if true.
Andrei
Tue Apr 29 2025 5:30 pm EST
Watching the playoffs I notice 2 things. All the teams play as a team well coached, positioned and hungry. Next playoff hockey is power, speed and tenacity. Adam Fox relies on smarts it’s not enough. No one fears him physically or his point shot. I would listen to offers cause his skating as he gets older will only digress.
Jake0104
Tue Apr 29 2025 5:07 pm EST
I think id rather tochet rather than Sully. He was an abrasive player and never won a cup woth another team. I find that important. Other than bowman has any coach won a cup with two different teams ?
Kis
Tue Apr 29 2025 5:00 pm EST
Sacrificing your body isn't easy. CUP is the hardest thing.
vcp1994
Tue Apr 29 2025 4:49 pm EST
On my 10th hit they got the 2nd pick. Lol.
rf4l
Tue Apr 29 2025 4:47 pm EST
Ha. For shits and giggles I went to the Sim mock draft site and on my 1st hit the Rangers landed the 1st overall pick https://www.tankathon.com/nhl
rf4l
Tue Apr 29 2025 4:03 pm EST
Hospo cats to me have that relentless presence. Physical and fast. Super D leaving no odd man rushing or vulnerability. Rangers are nowhere close to they like last year. Avs, starts , TB ,caps, oilers are all much better than we are.
vcp1994
Tue Apr 29 2025 3:55 pm EST
RF4L - I don't like TOCCHET becasue he's an ex Flyer! Nothing about his coaching..And SULLY doesn't do much for me either....just past accolades...Like Lard Ass
Hospo
Tue Apr 29 2025 3:52 pm EST
VTRanger- Hah, it took me a few days to get past that burn and start watching the games!!..And, yeahm that was what I was getting at with "TEAMS playing like teams, playing systems"...And while i think any system a neww coach brings is better than the 1V1 lets chase the guy around the D zone strategy the rangers utilzie (the 1-3-1 is fine if played right)...i think even more comes down to the players being committed to the system, and not being selfish and playing the game that needs to be played all the time and not the soft, perimter, no contact game they want to play too often (maimnly talking forwards here)...These guys have had their chances, so maybe you go get new ones that have done it and will do it?
Hospo
Tue Apr 29 2025 3:25 pm EST
Interesting - he wasn't let go; he left on his own accord despite overtures from management to resign. I wonder if it's related to Pettersson and his lack of spunk - could be Tocchet realizes he doesn't have the style to motivate him so rather than continue on in a frustrating/irritating situation, he's moving on. I know many aren't fans of his on this wall but I'd prefer him over Sullivan.
rf4L
Tue Apr 29 2025 3:22 pm EST
Tocchet now officially on the market...
rf4L
Tue Apr 29 2025 3:03 pm EST
VtRanger. They had those sort of breakdowns in last year's POs too. Yes they weren't as frequent and prolonged but they were more numerous than you see in these POs. The difference? Igor.
rf4l
Tue Apr 29 2025 3:00 pm EST
Rhetoric yep I know . I have thought of it..lolol . I just don't think we are close
vcp1994
Tue Apr 29 2025 2:10 pm EST
Hospo: I watched a bunch of playoff games this weekend. Aside from my burning rage about the Rangers not being involved, the one consistent thing I noticed (and maybe it was just a result of the particular games I chose to watch) was that teams rarely if ever had the regular, systemic defensive breakdowns that the Rangers suffered from all season. I'm talking about the things you'd see happen four or five times every game (i.e., the guy wide open in the slot and/or the late trailer waltzing down the center of our d-zone completely unmolested), those things happened maybe once or more commonly not at all for the playoff teams I was watching. I'm not saying it would be a complete fix, but if our new coach can successfully install a defensive system that better matches the skills our players, he will be taking a very major step in making this team competitive again.
VtRanger
Tue Apr 29 2025 1:36 pm EST
Rhet0ric - Oh I was kidding - He also blinks a lot which is as distracting as Gallant sniffing in press conferences.
DREW
Tue Apr 29 2025 1:27 pm EST
Hospo: Yep, quite true. HUGE decisions facing Dreary - the wrong way and despite his new deal he could be gone next summer.
rf4L
Tue Apr 29 2025 1:20 pm EST
Drew.... Don't take it personal dude, it has nothing to do with you... You're not the first guy to post that clown. I really don't like him He's not even original. There seems to be a "DIGEST" channel for other sports teams too. There's one for the NYY's and I hate it just as much. They same the same things with the same exact same points, and they whine about the same lack of followbacks, etc. The exact same way.... beat for beat. They're making money of the hard work of others. It just bugs me. End of rant. Sorry :)
Rhet0ric
Tue Apr 29 2025 1:03 pm EST
Man, I am taking a betting on this wall this week. Two of my guys are not liking my posts - rf4l for my Tocchet post. And now Rhet0ric on my Luis Darius Domingues post. (Just kidding - I am ultra sensitive)
DREW
Tue Apr 29 2025 12:54 pm EST
VCP - Ya know, I have been watching the POs and I just don't see any teams with great overwhelming talent...but, you are right, I do see TEAMS playing as teams, playing systems, being lead by players and coaches, doing everything it takes to win and compete..Except for talent, Rangers had none of that this year..Obviously up to DRURY to decide if he needs anything more than a coach and cosmetic changes to bring in the last 4 elements..I think
Hospo
Tue Apr 29 2025 12:54 pm EST
VCP.... You're a bit unhinged dude, you should start your own YouTube channel :)
Rhet0ric
Tue Apr 29 2025 12:50 pm EST
Thankfully the ultimate schmuck aka subban thinks the rangers are cup contenders. He is another moron..
vcp1994
Tue Apr 29 2025 12:44 pm EST
This team needs a team !!!! We suck balls. No coach will change that. Need 3 D men to start.
vcp1994
Tue Apr 29 2025 11:05 am EST
OMG, Please stop with this Darius Domingues clown. Everything is SHOCKING and BREAKING news to him. He has no real information and just reads day old tweets. He reads tweets of just average fans. He is clickbait to the extreme. Sorry, not sorry.
Rhet0ric
Tue Apr 29 2025 11:04 am EST
RF4L - I don't know, TB's days were pretty damn good this year wnd will continue to be..Just that they are playing the best PO team in hockey and the team that is going to win their 2nd Straight Stanley Cup
Hospo
Tue Apr 29 2025 11:01 am EST
RF4L- SCREW GREENWAY..almost always hurt..only plays hard when interested (would fit in to the 2024-25 Rangers)... rarely uses his size....I'd take O'Reily over ZMOPE but would still stay away..Now, FORSBERG is anither story!
Hospo
Tue Apr 29 2025 10:58 am EST
Drew: Cooper going - that's more media speculation based on the fact that Florida seems poised to bounce Tampa. I'd say that's not on Cooper - that's on the GM who's failing to recognize the Bolts best days are behind them and it's time for a retool. Instead he continues to make deals for the present at the expense of the future to the tune of no 1sts for the next 3 years. That will mean 5 consecutive drafts with no 1st.
rf4L
Tue Apr 29 2025 10:54 am EST
For me pass on Greenway - bark seems to be way worse than his bite. O'Reilly would be another over 30 overpaid forward so pass there, too, and Tkachuk is going nowhere for now.
rf4L
Tue Apr 29 2025 10:13 am EST
I am not sure if you guys listen to this podcast - he updates regularly. It's a good listen, he is a bit more pro-Drury than most on here. He does reference a lot of the same "sauces" here. Nothing shocking - Sullivan is the front-runner for "HC of the NYR" (Bill Belichick reference). He does mention that Jon Cooper could be let go. Source is Hockey Insiderr - if Sullivan is hired by the Rangers and Cooper winds up on Long Island, tdchi and rf4l are going to be busy with me..... Here is the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LS8voezN4d0
DREW
Tue Apr 29 2025 10:11 am EST
JFC - I agree that if DRURY wants SULLY, and he has no other top choice to to save his own hide THIS YEAR (anybody else will be a consolation prize), he will get him......BUT...SULLY is in the DRIVER's seat (and Drury boxed into a corner by his own incompetence) and could and should demand the moon in terms of contract and, especially, official/unofficial at least co-control of personnel decisions and player aquisitions/deletions....JMWO
Hospo
Tue Apr 29 2025 10:04 am EST
A so far former wallster sent me this….https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nhl/3-early-rangers-trade-targets-after-2025-playoff-elimination/ar-AA1DNa5i?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=cd8d98531a5e469cad9115e910bcb0c9&ei=10
Stevielegs
Tue Apr 29 2025 10:00 am EST
Vcp DD drury is the problem . He has many believing it’s the rosters which 3 out of 4 seasons made the playoffs and 14 other teams each of those years didn’t win the cup. Between his missing roster piece-pieces and cap excuses, and his coaches choking were the main problems . The fickle fans and DD share some similarities in their thinking and excuse reasons. So get new chairs for the captain of the titanic instead of a good navigator . Right now I’ll settle for a good coach and captain to lead the team.
Stevielegs
Tue Apr 29 2025 9:55 am EST
IMO Sullivan fits Dreary's MO for a head coach - therefore it seems a foregone conclusion that it will happen. If that's the case, it should happen soon, although with secretive Dreary who knows?
rf4L
Tue Apr 29 2025 9:44 am EST
I would also imagine it would be awkward for Sullivan to have to coach McAvoy, who is married to his daughter. Shipping out Marchand to the Panthers definitely showed that the Bruins are in a rebuilding phase. No matter how much some may wish that for the Rangers, there is no way that Drury is going that route one season removed from being 2 games away from the Cup finals. If Drury wants Sullivan as coach, theres a good chance he’s gonna get him.
JFC31
Tue Apr 29 2025 9:20 am EST
Talk is that Sulli is not a fan of Bruins ownership, so planets might be lining up for him to become the next Rangers coach.
andrei
Tue Apr 29 2025 8:15 am EST
TDCHI - I can see that top six forwards under Sully...won't lead to anything much better but i can see it...but..at least ZBAD would be gone!!!!!!..OTOH, what if SULLY is a fan of the BROMANCERS?????..I think both Kreids and ZSOFT have done well agasaint the charmin soft Penguins......But that 3rd line is just a substandard mess with two forwards that would/will likely do nothing in the NHL or not even be close to being ready (PERRAULT) NHL..and REMPS will be gone with SULLY
Hospo
Tue Apr 29 2025 7:58 am EST
Stevielegs DOLAN doesnt care !! thats the issue.
vcp1994
Tue Apr 29 2025 7:53 am EST
rf4L works for me !!!!
vcp1994
Tue Apr 29 2025 7:13 am EST
vcp: Re your Fox comment - maybe it'll mean Dreary trades Fox then - he has until July 1 to do so without any restrictions. Do this: Kreider, Z, and Fox to Barfalo for Dahlin, Samuelson and Quinn.
rf4L
Tue Apr 29 2025 7:10 am EST
TD: That any pending UFA name would be bandied about this far away from July 1 is nothing but media speculation getting sheep-like following. Think about it - at the best of times less than zero leaks come out of Drearyville. To believe that he's suddenly yapping away to folks about his intentions when it comes to free agents this summer is like believing in fairy tales. Hell, this PR adverse nob had an 11 minute end of season press conference that offered up nothing in terms of his intended direction this off-season. He's a believe it when you see it GM which I admit does has its merits.
rf4L
Tue Apr 29 2025 7:06 am EST
Man did the Rangers ever screw up bypassing Wyatt Johnson in favour of Othmann. Mind you, Johnson would have been mired in the bottom 6 under GG and then Lardiolette and underachieved so perhaps it's moot anyways.
rf4L
Tue Apr 29 2025 6:45 am EST
Just putting my Kreskin hat on here, but...I would be exceedingly surprised if the Rangers don't snap up SULLY. The Bruins? Well, first of all, I think they're set to keep SACCO. And if they weren't, I'm pretty sure they'd promote Jay LEACH. At any rate, I don't see SULLY wanting that job...they're on the edge of a rebuild...and I don't see the Bruins giving it to him...SULLY will be the Rangers' coach unless he decided he doesn't want it...I would be somewhat surprised of KREIDER is a Ranger come September. Likewise with ZIBANEJAD. Never say never, but the Rangers could just so happen to use $15 million in cap space...And I think when we're hearing BOESER and DONATO's names chucked out there at this point in the season? I don't think that's a coincidence...I see them ditching the BROMANCE and grabbing those two to replace them...That frees up room for DRURY to either acquire or sign a first pairing LHS defenseman. So you end up with BOESER-MILLER-CUYLLE, LAF-TROCHECK-PANARIN, OTHMANN-DONATO-PERREAULT, EDSTROM-CARRICK-REMPE, with BERARD and BRODZINSKI as your spares. I could also see them landing FREDERIC instead of DONATO, depending on cost...Then GAVRIKOV-FOX, MILLER-BORGEN, SOUCY-SCHNEIDER, with VAAK and JONES riding spare. Behold, your 2025-26 Rangers.
tdchi
Tue Apr 29 2025 1:06 am EST
So in the meantime hiring Sullivan makes sense as long as they name a new captain which should be Kreider ( if DD doesn’t blame him too) or throatcheck . A little empowering and respecting the players while holding them accountable has to happen. A captain and a coach have to lead in spite of the gm. He’s Mr D’S problem ala genius sather. They did it for 3 of the last 4 seasons so it’s possible in year 5 . Winning the cup is a different story. At least Sullivan has accomplished that as a head coach. And if he has the balls to deal with DD, at least there might be some hope again.
Stevielegs
Tue Apr 29 2025 12:53 am EST
““Is there any Ranger fan that is happy Chris Drury is extended and staying? Speak up now,” one person wrote on X. “You have got to be effing kidding me?! Chris Drury should be fired,” a second person chimed in. “When parody becomes real life lol I wouldn’t trust Chris Drury to manage a Starbucks but here we f–kin’ are,” another fan posted. “Coool cool cool cool cool. Hey siri what would happen if I jumped off msgs roof. Would Chris drury be in any way liable and get fired then?” someone else posted. ”
Stevielegs
Mon Apr 28 2025 8:16 pm EST
I will take Sullivan lolol..trade fox please
vcp1994
Mon Apr 28 2025 8:12 pm EST
I won't take Sullivan because Adam fox rarely played in the 4 nations lololol . He knows fox blows
vcp1994
Mon Apr 28 2025 4:26 pm EST
In addition to not making the playoffs for 3 years, Sullivan is Mcevoys father in law and bruins need a coach. No thanks
Jake0104
Mon Apr 28 2025 4:26 pm EST
TRUE DAT But, as a gutted and dysfunctional leaderless team they are now light years aways from the team that played the Panthers..and that is because of the decaying, no leading by example and don't want to pay the price core..They won't change...whoever the coach is...up to Dickweed
vcp1994
Mon Apr 28 2025 4:25 pm EST
Hospo on the money as always !!
vcp1994
Mon Apr 28 2025 3:30 pm EST
JFC - Yes and No...Chronologically, yes, they are one year removed from a President's Cup..But, as a gutted and dysfunctional leaderless team they are now light years aways from the team that played the Panthers..and that is because of the decaying, no leading by example and don't want to pay the price core..They won't change...whoever the coach is...up to Dickweed to change them and i don't see it happening other than Drury finishing his kicking kreider to the curb plan...At the best, lazy Laffy and brain fart Miller can put the year behind them..becasue there sure aren't any good young players to help at D or Forward (top 9) ....Maybe SULLY (or whoever) can play a Keenan to Drury's SMith and demand the type of players while not caring about the existing core (ala Gartner)
Hospo
Mon Apr 28 2025 2:54 pm EST
rf4L - I don't know what the F I am talking about. I was just picking the worst of 2 bad coaches.
DREW
Mon Apr 28 2025 2:51 pm EST
Drew: So you'd prefer a coach who lets the inmates run the asylum (ala Lardiolette and GG)?
rf4L
Mon Apr 28 2025 2:29 pm EST
rf4L - Well there you have it. I am out on Tocchet
DREW
Mon Apr 28 2025 2:23 pm EST
Tocchet doesn't stand for crap!
rf4L
Mon Apr 28 2025 2:14 pm EST
I would only prefer David Carle based on the words of you guys here. I also agree with you that there is little to no chance this is the direction Drury would go. If it were between Sullivan and Tocchet, I would prefer Tocchet and I am not sure why.
DREW
Mon Apr 28 2025 12:18 pm EST
https://nypost.com/2025/04/28/sports/penguins-and-mike-sullivan-part-ways-after-10-seasons/
JFC31
Mon Apr 28 2025 12:14 pm EST
Hospo - agree that Rangers will be in a “win now” mode…and that is absolutely how it should be, 1-season removed from winning a President’s trophy. But, I doubt Drury trades Laf or K’Andre, though K’Andre would have better odds. I think he’ll sign him to a 2 or 3 year deal at lower cost and see if he turns the corner. As for Laf, Drury would look like a fool trading him less than 1-year after giving him a long-term extension…and that contract is worth $1 mil more than Kreider’s for a 23-year old who had a down season that corresponds with everyone else having a bad season. If Lafrenière gets back on track, with the cap going up a lot the next few seasons, that contract will be a bargain.
JFC31
Mon Apr 28 2025 12:07 pm EST
Funny how no one is mentioning that Sullivan was already a part of the Rangers and was not impressive. Wasn’t he in charge of the Rangers PP, which was horrible? Not saying he hasn’t learned a lot & evolved since then but it also very nice when you can do a Coach Sather and yell, “Sid, you’re up! Malkin, you’re up! Letang, you’re up!” over & over & over again!
JFC31
Mon Apr 28 2025 11:07 am EST
SULLIVAN was probably the odds on favorite to be the coach over other retreads.and old boys club candiates.....but with DRURY's incompetence likely only having 1 year of shelf life left and doubtful that SULLY is in this for a rebuilding, this team will be in a win now mode......MALKIN will replace KRIEDER (with the assets a wash)...No other CORE will go..which will be a huge mistake...At least 1-2 other vet UFAs to follow...and a musical chairs of disappointing young players (Drury to deal LAFFY and MILLER, maybe Jones, and REMPS is not a SULLY type of player)))...I can see dealing MILLER, since the D is set for years to come with a decaying Fox, a rehabbing SCHNEIDS, top pair d man Borgen, SOUCY, VAAKINEN and Jones....Matt GRYCELEK will likely be a target...Prove me wrong Dipshit
Hospo
Mon Apr 28 2025 10:42 am EST
If DD wants Sullivan he should not delay so they can put their noggins together and figure out how to create a bigger or smaller mess.
Stevielegs
Mon Apr 28 2025 10:25 am EST
We don't know that Quinn would want to come back to NY or if Drury would want him back. It will be interesting to see if it's a sticking point for Sullivan.
Rhet0ric
Mon Apr 28 2025 10:24 am EST
How many coaches have won a Cup at two different organizations? Still Drury keeps trying to pull the trick. I get this team needs a strong coach to deal with the strong personalities
Kis
Mon Apr 28 2025 10:11 am EST
I would be floored if SULLY isn't announced as the Rangers' coach. Maybe DRURY keeps the pretense going for a few more weeks to build suspense. But I don't see a world where the Rangers select a new coach over a retread.
tdchi
Mon Apr 28 2025 10:09 am EST
Well, with a little luck, Dave QUINN is selected to be SULLY's replacement...
tdchi
Mon Apr 28 2025 10:04 am EST
The two parties agreed to go their separate ways. To me, that says he's got another job lined up. I'm just saying. The real question is, does Drury continue on with the pretenses of looking far and wide for the perfect coach or just jump at the chance too get "his guy."
Rhet0ric
Mon Apr 28 2025 9:55 am EST
For the benefit of Mr Kite....
Ranger47
Mon Apr 28 2025 9:52 am EST
Guess who comes with sully, Dairy Queen and maybe talkerella…. It would the new circus is in town….with the ringleaders DD and Mr D ….
Stevielegs
Mon Apr 28 2025 9:21 am EST
Lolol it would be hilarious if Sullivan went somewhere else.poor poor dreary can't find a coach for this shit organization show.
vcp1994
Mon Apr 28 2025 9:15 am EST
It's been 9 years since Shitsburgh won the cup and that's with Crosby, Malkin and Letang in their primes. They've played a total of 33 PO games since and none in the past 3 years. Sullivan is 57 years old. This to me is simply too similar to Lardiolette and GG. Therefore, he'll be the next Ranger coach unless he's got his eye on another team (and them on him).
rf4L
Mon Apr 28 2025 9:10 am EST
Crosby to rangers for 3 first rounders and 3 second rounders plus 3 players to be named later. Drurys best trade
vcp1994
Mon Apr 28 2025 9:01 am EST
Sullivan when he's hired had better come in with a mandate to move past the tired old leadership guard. The question is who becomes the new guard. Obviously JTM and I suppose Trocheck, 2 over 30 highly paid forwards. As much as I want to see it, I find it difficult to believe Panarin is going anywhere so that means 3 of the top 6 forward spots are consumed by over 30 highly paid players. MOre of the same in other words. And if Dreary signs someone like Boeser that only magnifies the same old stuff.
rf4L
Mon Apr 28 2025 8:59 am EST
Unless he chooses to go back to Boston. Which he might.
Bob
Mon Apr 28 2025 8:21 am EST
Bob - Good question! Pittsburgh really hasn't had much in the way of young players this past decade...But SULLY did pull GUENTZEL into the fold quite successfully. He also seemingly did well with reclaim projects in TOMASINO and Cody GLASS...but what I think you have here is a more studious version of Dave QUINN...who...speaking of which...is one of his assistants...
tdchi
Mon Apr 28 2025 8:17 am EST
Sigh. I guess we should welcome Coach Mike SULLIVAN...I doubt anyone here will be surprised that I'm not a big fan of this move. I never liked SULLY. Hated, hated, HATED his special teams...and I always thought his success in Pittsburgh had a hell of a lot more to do with the players and team he inherited, than anything he did there...The one thing I'll say about those cup teams that gives me a ray of hope is that he had the balls to put Phil KESSEL on a third line and got him to buy into the idea of rolling three...even four lines. But when this happens...and I don't see any reason to think it won't...this won't bolster my optimism for the future...
tdchi
Mon Apr 28 2025 8:17 am EST
Well, guess we know who the new Rangers coach is gonna be. The one question, I know Pittsburgh hasn’t had much when it comes to young players, how is Mike Sullivan with young players?
Bob
Mon Apr 28 2025 8:09 am EST
re: BOESER - Tried to post something on that rumor over what was a very long and exhausting weekend, but it musta gotten plugged up somewhere...couple things to note: BOESER was on a team with BORGEN and another rumored future Ranger...Ryan DONATO...that was...well...kind of a failure at the World Juniors...but hey, you get guys that make connections and sometimes teams...especially the Rangers...try to use those connections to their advantage. If he's on their radar, I could almost guarantee JT MILLER is involved somewhere...nevertheless...the Rangers have an abundance of wings...PERREAULT, OTHMANN, CUYLLE, and LAFRENIERE to start are going nowhere. Add to that PANARIN and KREIDER. And then your next tier of wingers, EDSTROM, BERARD, REMPE...and if he's qualified, KALIYEV. And then if Z or PARSSINEN or BRODZINSKI are used there...Maybe the idea is to dump KREIDER and/or ZIBANEJAD and replace that cap hit with BOESER...Anyway, I don't quite know what to think here. The Rangers desperately need to rebuild their defense and a guy like this would take away valuable cap space which could help them do this...anywho...since this doesn't really seem to make sense, I fully expect the Rangers to sign him.
tdchi
Mon Apr 28 2025 8:09 am EST
Mike Sullivan is leaving Pittsburgh as per Elliot Friedman
tlats
Sun Apr 27 2025 10:37 pm EST
Boeser to the Rangers is media stuff and meaningless IMO. The Rangers always get pointed at when a big name on another team is leaving. And if Dreary wants him he'll have to trade Igor.
rf4l
Sun Apr 27 2025 10:14 pm EST
I wonder if the Oil keep losing in playoffs if McDavid would consider leaving Edmonton for NYC after next year.
tradestar28
Sun Apr 27 2025 8:37 pm EST
The Blues have a guy named MONTGOMERY behind the bench...
tdchi
Sun Apr 27 2025 8:31 pm EST
Just watching a bit of the Wash/Mon game and the Rangers would never be able to keep up with the effort level never mind the physicality. Wilson annihilates a Canadiens D man which soon leads to a goal because the guy was slow to get off the ice to make the change. Some things never change. Washington now up 3-1 in series.
NYStranger
Sun Apr 27 2025 8:25 pm EST
If MSG entertainment or whatever that part of his business is called went bankrupt it would be like Dolan losing $20 through a hole in his left pocket when he still has $2,000 in his right pocket safe and sound. He just played a game to reduce his debt and seemingly won big time.
NYStranger
Sun Apr 27 2025 5:32 pm EST
Drury has boxed himself in. His rep is he gives coaches 2 years so no Hot Shot would take that so forget Carle it’s a retread desparation coach who take Drurys call
Jake0104
Sun Apr 27 2025 5:22 pm EST
The NJD are falling apart at the seems. Too bad.
Rhet0ric
Sun Apr 27 2025 4:58 pm EST
The hit on Jake Guentzel by Matthew Tkachuk went unpunished by NHL. After watching the replay about 5x, I would have bet that we woulda seen a suspension of atleast one game. League disagrees and didnt even have a hearing. Personally , i think that is a bunch of bullshit. Can you imagine Rempe doing the same thing there.....he woulda gotten 5 games. I GottA say i am getting very bored with hockey lately. Obviously, it has to do with the unwatchable brand of hockey from the 2024-25 NYR's. And ofcourse, my hatred of Chris Fuckin Drury. He is a lil piece of shit IMO......and he makes it literally no fun to root for this current roster.
tradestar28
Sun Apr 27 2025 3:42 pm EST
They don't have cap space to Boesser or any big dollar UFA. That's just guys looking for clicks.
HellsKitchen
Sun Apr 27 2025 2:59 pm EST
A bit surprised no one mentioned this on Friday, but the rumor du jour that day was that the NYR's are hot after Brock Boeser in Free Agency(provided the Canucks don't re-sign him between now and July 1st). The Vancouver beat guys were all over it... He had one 40 goal season with 73 points a couple of years ago but has never come close to repeating it (usually around a 25 goal, 25 assist guy).... very similar to Kreider in style... physical in that he'll muscle his way to the net but he doesn't throw many hits.....To me, he's kind of Kreider-lite..... Also similar numbers to Kreider in the postseason (on much more limited experience--only 2 years)..... The Canucks offered him a 5 year $40 Million deal and he turned it down. He's said to be looking for $9 Mil per season.... Soooooo, in a nutshell, we'd be willing to pay this guy the same as or more than JTM or Z and have him produce less than Kreider? How does that make any logical sense? Kreider is still signed for a reasonable rate for another couple of seasons. Have a come to Jeebus meeting with him and clear the air. Then let him have this surgery and get healthy. That seems like the more logical/reasonable plan to me. JMO, of course.
Rhet0ric
Sun Apr 27 2025 2:45 pm EST
I would love for the Rangers to play like STL, thought WPG looked like final material but not so sure now.
Cnparda
Sun Apr 27 2025 2:28 pm EST
Watching Blues blow out Jets for second straight game…Doug Armstrong has done a good job this year with the Blues….He has made trades and accumulated picks for this rebuild and it is paying off…
PJ
Sun Apr 27 2025 2:24 pm EST
You can almost guarantee that Drury and Dolan are not likely to go with a guy who has no experience. He is going to have to take a veteran team with little sense of themselves who have completely a leadership dearth. It’s going to be a rough gig. I could see Peca having an inside potential simply based on his relationship with Drury and knowledge of the team. I think obviously they’d love to get Sully but that aint gonna happen. I’d personally Tocchet who would come in and build the kind of team I think Drury wants to create. But his likely spot is in Philly. Tortorella can come in and torture the team with endless line breakups mid game. Insane press conferences and a person who im not sure had a winning season since 2013.
E
Sun Apr 27 2025 1:54 pm EST
TD... I mentioned CARLE the other day, the BRUINS are reportedly, VERY interested in him. Can anyone blame him for turning down Chicago? They are a bit of a shits-how. Directionless and rudderless. Sound familiar? Honestly, I don't think there's a chance we get him to come here. I don't think DRIURY would be capable of persuading him either. If he wants to go to the NHL, I could see it being with BOSTON. Right fit IMO.
Rhet0ric
Sun Apr 27 2025 12:18 pm EST
This is WHY I want CARLE: Carle is the hottest name on the coaching circuit. Between his success at the college level with Denver and internationally at the World Junior Championship with Team USA, the 35-year-old Carle has created a lot of hype around his potential in the NHL. The thought is that Carle could be the ideal coach for an up-and-coming team such as the Blackhawks, as he could potentially marry development and winning. The Blackhawks have spent plenty of time watching Carle’s teams in action the past few years, with forward prospect Aidan Thompson, a 2022 third-round pick, playing at Denver. Something that helped Thompson in his development was Carle’s emphasis on one-timers. Carle found that a majority of goals are scored from one-timers and made that a priority in practice. Another Carle coaching philosophy is winning at least three of the following categories in every game: the special teams battle, winning 55 percent or more of the faceoffs, giving up three or fewer odd-man rushes, taking zero bad or undisciplined penalties and winning the net-front battle. With most of these coaches, the Blackhawks likely have to commit plenty of money and term. Any coach coming into Chicago will want that security, knowing it could be at least a few seasons before the Blackhawks turn the corner. Carle has already proved he isn’t leaving Denver for just any NHL job. He has to really believe it is what’s best for him. The Blackhawks are going to have to sell him.
tdchi
Sun Apr 27 2025 12:17 pm EST
Hospo - I would say there's probably an 80 percent chance Dave CARLE isn't interested in coaching in the NHL right now, if he's turning down the Hawks. That's a team with an impressive set of young players...many who are CARLE's style. Two young and very talented goalies...and of course, probably the NHL's future CROSBY in its midst. I guess there's a chance he simply doesn't want to risk failing...Blackhawks would probably give him three years to get to the cup final before seeking a different candidate...Nevertheless...I guess there's a chance he'd rather take a more experience team closer to contention...but if I were to bet on it? I'd say this is CARLE telling the league he's happy at Denver.
tdchi
Sat Apr 26 2025 1:52 pm EST
Denver University bench boss David Carle can't be a candidate for the Rangers and their selfish bore core can he? Only ask because he removed himself from consideration for The BlackHawks HC job, wsho supposedly really wanted him...
Hospo
Sat Apr 26 2025 7:47 am EST
After all the times Dolan wouldn't agree on cable contracts over the years causing us to not get MSG for long periods of time, I'd rather see him go bankrupt!
Ranger47
Sat Apr 26 2025 12:25 am EST
Mr D has more important issue$ than DD drury…. Beating Jo Morgan in monopoly….https://nypost.com/2025/04/25/media/james-dolans-msg-networks-reaches-deal-to-avoid-bankruptcy-sets-up-potential-sale-to-yes/
Stevielegs
Fri Apr 25 2025 10:17 pm EST
Ok. How about slinker
rf4l
Fri Apr 25 2025 9:25 pm EST
Not a Canes fan but come on and get rid of devils
rngrsans
Fri Apr 25 2025 8:55 pm EST
Looks likes Habs are gonna win tonight
rngrsans
Fri Apr 25 2025 8:27 pm EST
Sorry man. That’s a bridge too far…
E
Fri Apr 25 2025 8:06 pm EST
E. Add in regular season stinker.
rf4l
Fri Apr 25 2025 5:46 pm EST
Mika the Shrinker, Hope Sinker. Postseason 2025: 0 GP, 0 G, 0 A, 0 PTS, Status: Seeking asylum at IIHF.
E
Fri Apr 25 2025 5:21 pm EST
Really glad Meeka the Meek Moping Moop is playing in the Worlds..The more 'hockey" he plays, the better chance of getting injured..OTOH, since his moping MO is to avoid contact and intensity at all turns...and wait for Special TEams...I guess it really doesn't matter..The Faces of the Franchise..the Icompetent Drury..the New Bromancers and Meeka!!...As for the coach, an old guard is a forgone conclusion...Would Love Torts for the Snore Bore Core and the new vet UFAs to come...They need the most outspoken and most direct coach possible..whoever that might be
Hospo
Fri Apr 25 2025 5:19 pm EST
AOAN game 3 Jets and Blues had 128 hits. Yikes.
rf4l
Fri Apr 25 2025 5:15 pm EST
TD. The 21 draft was considered weak at the time. Guess what? As you're alluding to history is proving that as being off-base. This draft will likely follow suit. I get the allure of Hagens but I don't see the Rangers being in a position to make a deal like that given their lack of draft picks and slim prospect list. Better off IMO trading down to acquire additional picks. Remember right now 1 pick in 2026 in the 1st 4 rounds (and that's a 3rd). Just ugh.
rf4l
Fri Apr 25 2025 3:50 pm EST
There's also the flipped argument...I think one of the massive injustices of the rankings right now is how they're treating Jimmy HAGENS. I honestly don't rightly understand how he's fourth overall...and based on how he's dropped thus far, suggests to me he might drop farther. Saw the same thing with Lucas RAYMOND and Matvei MICHKOV...a couple guys who should've really challenged for first overall...but dropped...and in MICHKOV's case...FAR...If the Flyers and possibly the Bruins pass on HAGENS...I would make a VERY strong case for trading up...packaging the 11th overall with maybe a roster piece or a prospect to try to snag him at 6th or 7th. Or if one of those teams picking 5th or 6th were inclined? Him and PERREAULT would be a SICK pairing.
tdchi
Fri Apr 25 2025 3:45 pm EST
RF4L - I was almost thinking that too, looking at AITCHESON...because he seems to be ranked all over the place...like some have him in the second round...others have him as high in the first...I do agree that this draft seems to be a pretty big crapshoot when it comes to spots after the 10th overall. Nobody really has any consensus on this draft...and that could, as some here have suggested, be because it's a weak draft. It could also be because nobody really has a good read after several rather strong drafts...this is reminding me a bit of the 2021 draft in way...Like POWER was the consensus number one...much like SCHAEFFER seems to be in this one...But after that? The pre-draft rankings were pretty much a wash. Mason McTAVISH is the guy I remember the most. Rangers were drafting 16th and I remember thinking either him or Cole SILLINGER...who were both ranked in the low teens...MIGHT slip their way...McT goes third overall, and SILLINGER goes 12th...and now if you look at that draft...MAN...it's actually looking pretty fucking good. Only six guys out of 32 without an NHL game...nine out of the first 10 playing more than 100 games, and that 10th...Tyler BOUCHER...was just a stupid reach...point is...if the Rangers are at 11 and McQUEEN and O'BRIEN are both gone...and AITCHESON is sitting there...It might be worth it to grab a second rounder and move down to 15 or 16 and see if he falls to you there.
tdchi
Fri Apr 25 2025 2:36 pm EST
newf: You thought right!
rf4L
Fri Apr 25 2025 1:49 pm EST
Rhet...I tought that is what the world teams were comprised of ...players who were out of the PO"s and the first round ?
Newfie_Ranger
Fri Apr 25 2025 12:50 pm EST
Glad to hear MF is okay. When he missed out on breaking out the Traderator after the season and talking about the draft, it was getting a little concerning. Thanks TD.
Rhet0ric
Fri Apr 25 2025 12:48 pm EST
Zibanejad had 41 points in his final 46 games (including 10 points in his final five). Going to the Worlds could be really good for him. Get the bad taste out of his mouth for a shitty season. I'm torn on FOX. He probably needs the rest. I would feel better if he was having offseason surgery. So at least we could feel like he's getting over the knee issues.
Rhet0ric
Fri Apr 25 2025 11:45 am EST
And in 2027 no 2nd and no 4th. Dreary is a lousy GM...
rf4l
Fri Apr 25 2025 11:43 am EST
If the Rangers keep their 1st it means next year no 1st no 2nd and no 4th. Utterly ridiculous asset management.
rf4l
Fri Apr 25 2025 11:41 am EST
TD. If there are 1 or 2 others in the 15 to 20 range of interest maybe trade down and land an extra 2nd rounder. Dreary needs to replenish the draft pick cupboard wherever possible thanks to all those picks he basically gave away.
rf4l
Fri Apr 25 2025 11:10 am EST
re: the draft, I'll preface this by saying I'm not a fan of Pronman and actually think he's kind of a boob...but his suggestion of AITCHESON...he's onto something. He's potentially a kid who could be in the lineup next season, since he's on the older side...almost 19...and already has the size to play in the NHL. Watching clips, he's not a guy that oozes talent, TBH. Passing looks average. Looks like he's got wheels, but average acceleration. Good shot for sure. But his hits? His fights?! Holy Schnikies. Talk about a kid who would be an INSTANT fan favorite. ...The kid reminds me a bit of Dion PHANEUF. Probably play at 210-215...Pretty sure he'll be on the board at 11th...I'd feel more comfortable taking him between 16 and 20...but for sure, I could see this being the Rangers pick: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tb_cUtwNmL0
tdchi
Fri Apr 25 2025 9:22 am EST
Actually no team has announced their roster it seems...
rf4l
Fri Apr 25 2025 8:37 am EST
World tournament starts May 9. Canadian team likely named in the next few days...
rf4l
Fri Apr 25 2025 8:31 am EST
I will NOT sit idle while folks here blast Sammy BLAIS. The guy is a goddamn performer. Had a FANTASTIC season. 40 points...kicked of the playoffs with two goals in a helper in the first two games...for Abottsford...Sigh. What a deal.
tdchi
Fri Apr 25 2025 8:29 am EST
re: mf - I shot him a message. He's OK. He's got some life issues he's ironing out and bummed about the Rangers, the tone of the wall, and apparently more focused on politics at this point. Place is a little duller around here without the tradeorator.
tdchi
Fri Apr 25 2025 8:22 am EST
Did Drury get a no movement clause in his extension.
gene_carr
Fri Apr 25 2025 7:27 am EST
FWIW I am hoping Laf and Cuylle are invited the canada's world championship team...
rf4l
Fri Apr 25 2025 4:24 am EST
“ Rangers’ Mika Zibanejad to play for Sweden in World Championships”
Stevielegs
Thu Apr 24 2025 11:32 pm EST
In this draft? Where the Rangers pick? I’d be looking at Aitcheson, Lapointe, Oswald, and Jurak.
E
Thu Apr 24 2025 10:54 pm EST
Sammy B. for Buch. Ugh…
NV94
Thu Apr 24 2025 10:05 pm EST
Rhet. Come on dude. For those who follow the prospects speculating possible selections is interesting. When the Rangers suck and have a higher pick as compensation the interest is increased. Why be a stick in the mud under those circumstances?
rf4l
Thu Apr 24 2025 9:00 pm EST
Just like I would tell MF every year... It's way, way too early to talk about what guy we want to take in what spot. Any guy that we like now, is going to climb up the rankings come the draft(near guaranteed). Also, we don't know what spot we'll be picking in. Not that I'm expecting to win a ping pong ball drop, but we could fall to Twelfth or even Thirteenth. With the usual NYR luck, either is possible.... Speaking of MF, does anyone have his e-mail from your time in the Yahoo Hockey League with him? If so, could you please send him some online correspondence to make sure that he's okay?
Rhet0ric
Thu Apr 24 2025 8:52 pm EST
In regards to the WORLDS.... Yes.
Rhet0ric
Thu Apr 24 2025 8:50 pm EST
RF4L... Usually, but in what regard?
Rhet0ric
Thu Apr 24 2025 8:46 pm EST
Pronman
JFC31
Thu Apr 24 2025 8:46 pm EST
Pro man has Rangers picking New York Rangers: Kashawn Aitcheson, LHD, Barrie (OHL) “Aitcheson was one of the better defensemen in the OHL this season, showing great physicality and offense. He’s the kind of player the Rangers have shown to covet.” Greatcsrticke in The Athletic about this kid…big, strong & mean.
JFC31
Thu Apr 24 2025 8:41 pm EST
Rhet. You're being sarcastic. Yes?
rf4l
Thu Apr 24 2025 8:06 pm EST
Newfie.... The NYR's didn't make the playoffs, so none of their players are eligible to be selected for the Worlds.
Rhet0ric
Thu Apr 24 2025 8:01 pm EST
The NYR's have $9.2 Million in cap space for next season, which is more than enough to sign Cuylle, Rempe, Edstrom, Parssinen(?), Jones and a 7th D(Robertson maybe?). What's missing you say? K'Andre Miller. No F-ing way I'm giving that guy $7-7.5 million. We'd have to trade Kreider or Z to get to that salary, but how do you justify it? It's not like you can say, well everyone had a shitty season. That's true, but Miller is having the same issues he's had since he turned pro. Two steps forward and then two steps back. Rinse and repeat. I would see what's available in a trade at the draft. Just my .02 cents.
Rhet0ric
Thu Apr 24 2025 7:54 pm EST
Not one Ranger named to team USA for the Worlds......I guess they were asked but didn't want to play.....just like the regular season...... LOL ..............or maybe they weren't even asked ?
Newfie_Ranger
Thu Apr 24 2025 7:43 pm EST
Yeah, so the owner of MSGN, was able to get James Dolan (the owner of the NYK's and NYR's) to reduce their massive broadcast fees so MSGN could stay in business. Great job by that guy. Who owns MSGN you say? ****checks notes**** ....James Dolan.... Billionaires are F-King gross.
Rhet0ric
Thu Apr 24 2025 7:33 pm EST
tdchi. I agree 100% about Zbad. In a good team environment he is a valuable player. But still going to be hard for Drury to trade him, because of his age and the term left on his contract. Drury will have to eat a chunk of the contract or take back a bad contract.
Ratelle1967
Thu Apr 24 2025 7:30 pm EST
Mr D should put his boy DD in charge….https://nypost.com/2025/04/24/media/msg-networks-nears-deal-to-skirt-bankruptcy-sources/
Stevielegs
Thu Apr 24 2025 4:33 pm EST
Interesting. 6 6 and 210. He'll be closer to 240 when he turns pro. Scouting reporr: https://neutralzone.com/nhl-scouting-reports/whl-radim-mrtka/
rf4l
Thu Apr 24 2025 4:30 pm EST
In 1 draft the Rangers picked Radik Mrtka a 6 6 230 dman who plays for Seattle in the WHL. He's a solid skater who projects to be a mean shutdown 2nd pairing dman. He's right handed too.
rf4l
Thu Apr 24 2025 4:26 pm EST
I looked at a few mock drafts and McQueen was gone before 11th. In 2 of them he was picked by the Islanders at 10! Ugh.
rf4l
Thu Apr 24 2025 4:19 pm EST
Bob. Of course it depends on who else is available at 11 but I'd certainly not be unhappy if that's who they end up with.
rf4l
Thu Apr 24 2025 3:02 pm EST
Bob/RF4L - LOL...they'll take another smallish left wing...but seriously...but seriously...if you look at the players DRURY has been drafting? McQUEEN looks right up his alley. That dude is massive. Probably will play at 220-plus. Physical player with skill. Every draft, DRURY is pulling guys like this in...CHMELAR and VAISANEN in 2021, HENRICKS and ROOBROECK in 2023. ASPINAL last year. And he obviously likes REMPE and EDSTROM. Seems like big and bruising is the way he's taking the farm. My only question is whether he'll be around at 11th. I don't think he will, TBH.
tdchi
Thu Apr 24 2025 2:52 pm EST
RF4L—- Would you take him? Just thinking about how barren they are at the Center position. They are also weak at left D.
Bob
Thu Apr 24 2025 2:14 pm EST
I don't share the abject hatred for ZIBANEJAD that seemingly the rest of the wall holds...I think he's another Ranger dragged down by the malaise that really swirled around the whole team last year. He's a good center who just couldn't get into gear...one extremely valid criticism of the guy is that this isn't the first time he's looked like this as a Ranger...only the last time, he was a lot younger. My thinking is that he's a guy mirrors his team almost to a T. When the team sucks? He follows them right down the drain. When his team battles? He's battling hard...like it or not...ALL THAT SAID...the Rangers really don't need a $8.5 million winger...they just don't. And if that's the plan with Z? Then they should move their $11.5 million winger. Or move on from LAFRENIERE...My thought with him was that if you could roll him, TROCHECK and MILLER...three strong centers...you could have a real difficult team to beat...but LAVIOLETTE was utterly disinterested in that take...and I don't think the next guy is going to even get a chance...I also 110 percent disagree that Z is immovable, or that he would spike any and all trades thrown his way. And I think what WILL happen is that DRURY will approach him and ask him where he wants to go...pick three destinations...and will make it happen. He probably won't get much for him...but make no mistake: A team that needs a top-six center? If the Rangers are offering up Z for a second rounder? Maybe a mid-level prospect if they eat a million or two off his salary? That deal is done...anyway, I don't think he's the great Satan everyone makes him out to be...rather the opposite. And for a guy who is clearly keyed into emotions...I think he'd welcome a move as opposed to returning to a team that didn't want him.
tdchi
Thu Apr 24 2025 1:17 pm EST
Bob. IMO it's possible but will Dreary take him??
rf4l
Thu Apr 24 2025 12:57 pm EST
Any chance this McQueen kid falls to the Rangers?
Bob
Thu Apr 24 2025 11:47 am EST
Still here, ....but been reading more than posting. The extension of Drury is very ,very dis-heartening to say the least. The rumors of Torts coming back , almost made me puke. You think our previos and most recent 'young guns" got handled wrong.......I would not wanna see what Torts would do to the new in coming players here on this team with this lame leadership core . And ,my one comment on the PO's so far is that ...when are people gonna finally get it that "star" players can only help you win a Cup ( McJesus and Drisital and MacKennon & Makar ) etc but a TEAM wins the CUP. Panthers from last year is almost the perfect example (and our beloved '94 heros ,of course :)
Newfie_Ranger
Thu Apr 24 2025 11:19 am EST
If Z refuses to leave the ONLY course of action is a buyout. This wimp can’t be got fast enough. A total shitty deal courtesy of our shitty GM. Now we all have to deal with it.
NYStranger
Thu Apr 24 2025 11:13 am EST
Let multi DD figure his mess out. I can’t wait to see his moves to get his roster for his new coach to keep Mr D happy.
Stevielegs
Thu Apr 24 2025 10:13 am EST
Shonuf. Zbad's NMC means no waivers and that means no minors. If he won't waive his NMC to facilitate a trade and Dreary's determined he's played his last game as a Ranger he tells Z to stay home. Better off buying him out then IMO although it shaves only something like 667K off the cap. Dumb contract that's Dreary's doing. Looks good on him.
rf4l
Thu Apr 24 2025 10:03 am EST
Shonuff, how long do you think Mika would last in the AHL for Hartford, think he would stick it out for 5 years or so like Wade Redden, knowing he can still play at a decent level? Especially when they deal his boyfriend at the draft (hopefully)
Puckyou
Thu Apr 24 2025 10:00 am EST
You can hire the greatest coach and GM in history, if your players are quit on the ice, and these guys did, they will never win a championship. Bust it up. I watched Brian Boyle rolling his eyes on Kreider and Mika’s comments, he was on some good NYR teams, played with Kreider, but seems to have lost respect for him.
Puckyou
Thu Apr 24 2025 9:55 am EST
No win situation with Z . He won’t leave and even if he sulks again you Can’t bury 65 points in the minors .
shonuff
Thu Apr 24 2025 5:42 am EST
Z will be a problem to move…He says he is staying as he has earned his NMC….With that contract and term it will be very difficult in my opinion…
PJ
Thu Apr 24 2025 1:57 am EST
Frederic, Donato? Interesting I think. I’m not saying no. Because I do think they are more along the line of what Drury covets. No one is gonna get me to cry about Bennett and certainly his attitude and leadership would be very welcome. He’s a hard nosed guy with a lot of leadership. He’s gonna get super overpaid IMO. Maybe the least bang for the buck guy out there. And how long is he gonna play like he does before injuries start becoming a thing? And I still think the Rangers are gonna have to make room for kids. I don’t think their mind is on contending as much as total reset.
E
Thu Apr 24 2025 12:52 am EST
“tireless pursuit of excellence”….elusive is a nice word…. A multi year contract means more than one. …. There’s little chance that DD can put a roster together and a new coaching staff, and make the playoffs. He has dismantled part of the team and will probably continue to do so for next season’s roster. I assume he believes Shazam Fox panarin throatcheck and jt miller will be his leadership core. To do that and make basically a new team that will make the playoffs is definitely a set up for a reward or a punishment . I highly doubt DD can handle the pressure. But he’ll collect his multi year pay of Dolan fuck you money either way.
Stevielegs
Thu Apr 24 2025 12:18 am EST
Besides, there is an exceedingly good chance both KREIDER and ZIBANEJAD have played their last games as Rangers. I would expect one or both to be moved this summer. I kinda doubt SOUCY is back either. That’s almost $18 million in cap right there. There are gonna be changes…for sure. DRURY is going to restructure this group this offseason to bring in sandpaper players and north-south guys. I think he’s going to go hard after BENNETT if he hits the market, with the idea being him on a line with JT, and then maybe someone like FREDERIC or DONATO as the third-line center. This ain’t gonna be a slow summer. I think we’ll see a lot of bold, if not stupidly bold moves by Captain Grind-the-Clutch.
tdchi
Thu Apr 24 2025 12:09 am EST
Ha. This silly BS with the offer sheets again. There have been 12 signed since 2000. For the math challenged, that’s one every other year. And of those 12, only FOUR were not matched. And in each instance, there were extenuating circumstances. With Dustin PENNER? The Ducks knew he wasn’t worth it. With KOTKANEIMI, the sheet was literally revenge for another sheet, and the kid was disgruntled in Montreal, thinking he wasn’t getting the playing time he deserved. The BROBERG and HOLLOWAY sheets were signed by both players for exactly the same reason: they were frustrated with the Oilers not giving them a larger role, which the Blues then offered…and delivered…to them…to shake the Rangers off CUYLLE, a team would need to offer him well in excess of $7 million, and that would put them in 1st, 2nd, and 3rd territory. The teams that have all three of those picks really limits the options off the cuff. Then factor in the ones that can fit that cap hit limits the pool further. Then you have to consider whether the player himself is willing to play in that city…well, you get the point why these deals almost never happen and even when they do, they’re almost always matched. The end result if you fail is that you make an enemy(see: AHO and Carolina). That’s a BIG risk to take, which is why GMs generally don’t take it.
tdchi
Wed Apr 23 2025 11:22 pm EST
I don’t think any GM in their right mind would offer $7 million and have to give up a first and a third round pick.
NV94
Wed Apr 23 2025 11:11 pm EST
Has anyone else noticed that when the retarded children of franchise owners assume control of those teams, at least in NY, things don't go well. There seems to be a pattern.
punchrolfe
Wed Apr 23 2025 10:03 pm EST
Unless Drury finishes cleaning up the house that includes trading Kreider and ZShit, Rangers are once gain in cap trouble. It does not matter who is the next coach will be. Team is damaged, leadership of the team is damaged. Team chemistry is damaged. There is a lot of chatter on NHL Radio regrading RFA's offers sheet and Rangers are mentioned as a target team. There is a reason for that. Rangers currently have only $9.6 mil cap room left and players to be re-signed, including Miller, Edstrom, Cuylle, Rempe, Parssinen, Jones. $9.6 mil already includes the projected cap raise. Forget targeting potential UFA players, unless cap room is cleared further. If anyone thinks that Cuylle won't get targeted as an RFA, is just being silly. I'm not saying it is a 100% guarantee, but all it takes a GM like Doug Armstrong who did successful offer sheet heist last summer and Cuylle will be wearing a different uniform next summer. If Rangers offer $4 mil and say Chicago offers him $7mil, do we really think that kid will say, no, "I don't want to get paid"??
andrei
Wed Apr 23 2025 8:29 pm EST
Sorry to take any false hope away..... "NHL General Manager (GM) contract details, including compensation and terms, are generally not publicly released due to privacy concerns and competitive advantages for teams. This confidentiality protects the teams' ability to negotiate with future GMs and prevents the revelation of internal salary structures and bargaining strategies."
Rhet0ric
Wed Apr 23 2025 7:56 pm EST
Wildcard thank you I needed that. I hope you are correct..why get sick over a stupid team anyway lolol
vcp1994
Wed Apr 23 2025 7:53 pm EST
Geezzus. Well can’t say I am surprised because it seems like anything I want or would like to happen with the NYR or the NHL in general never happens. I can only hope this gives him the green light to trade Zmoopy and Krieder to start. I have no confidence that we would like the return.
NYStranger
Wed Apr 23 2025 7:49 pm EST
But I share everyone’s concern and I am one who gave Drury some rope. I was patient with his vision but this team regressed. Listening to Brian Boyle and (yes) Larry Brooks. The team rode Igor and it almost worked. 2 Eastern Conference appearances are no small feats but who will remember that. I want to win a cup and I don’t feel confident (at least right now) in this group.
Drew
Wed Apr 23 2025 7:46 pm EST
I’m not even sure what to say anymore at this point. But as I predicted, the dark years have returned. Strap in for a king and bumpy ride. I’m actually out. This organization can fuck off for all I care. Terrible day for not only the fans, but the players who already have a distrust and dislike of DD. Hope you all have a wonderful summer, enjoy whatever happens in the draft, and enjoy some portion of the terrible season and future to come. It’s gonna be ugly. All the best
NCRanger
Wed Apr 23 2025 7:44 pm EST
PJ more than likely DD will fail again next season and that will be the end of his Nyr career. If not he and Dolan ( he calls him Mr D ) can have a sather bromance with similar results. Their main goal is just to make the playoffs. The cup has no big place in their ultimate goal. They’ll be happy with one to three rounds. Rinse and repeat.
Stevielegs
Wed Apr 23 2025 7:43 pm EST
Wildcard is typically optimistic and his last post doesn’t read as a Drury endorsement. It WC starts to worry, then that is really telling.
Drew
Wed Apr 23 2025 7:36 pm EST
Laff will come back stronger than ever….He is on the ding dong, ring ding and ho ho diet this summer…..Or just continuing it….LOL
PJ
Wed Apr 23 2025 7:34 pm EST
Stevie…Agree Sather is involved somehow….Protecting his mole…Sather the gift that keeps on giving….
PJ
Wed Apr 23 2025 7:31 pm EST
The only message this sends to the players is the douchebag running this team isn’t going anywhere…To the fans who suffered through this season….Too f’ing bad….
PJ
Wed Apr 23 2025 7:17 pm EST
lol as expected. People losing it. Guys. Stop. Breath. And think for a second. This is a move to make sure teams don’t think they just have to wait out Drury. And to help coaches feel a little better about signing so they don't have to think Drury will be gone as a base level idea, be that he isn’t renewed or another team comes calling. The rangers and the MSG org as a whole could fire him tomorrow and it would not hit the bottom line all that much. Not to mention Drury would land in another job with another team in some capacity and they would be off the hook for that portion of his contract. This in no way makes him the GM no matter what. Dolan is nothing if not stupid with money.
Wildcard
Wed Apr 23 2025 7:12 pm EST
Throatcheck and jt miller should demand a trade to Pittsburgh their hometown. And any other players with brains should get out of dodge. The circus is back in town with plenty of elephant shit to go around.
Stevielegs
Wed Apr 23 2025 6:56 pm EST
“Over his tenure, Chris has shown passion for the Rangers, relentless work ethic, and a tireless pursuit of excellence,” Dolan said in a statement. “While we are all disappointed in what transpired last season, I am confident in his ability to guide this organization to success.
Rhet0ric
Wed Apr 23 2025 6:39 pm EST
Lafrenière is not going to be traded. As TD said, you don’t trade a young player 1 year removed from being their best PO forward. And once July 1 arrives, his contract is a solid no-trade for Years 1 & 2, followed by an 8-team no trade after that
JFC31
Wed Apr 23 2025 6:32 pm EST
Damn, Drury has ben blowing somebody.....Anyways, Two years of incompetence and the rapid destruction of a clubhouse, team and an entire organization rewarded! Only in Rangerland...Fucked for Years to come...Is another white gag incompetence letter gonna come soon to protect dipshit Dickweed Drury?...But hey, maybe that great leader of men And 32 year old lockerroom diplomat JT MIller will bring this team together with Meeka the Moping Moop?...
Hospo
Wed Apr 23 2025 6:26 pm EST
I smell sather’s cigar fingers all over this decision. DD was his spy reporting on donutson and fishboy.
Stevielegs
Wed Apr 23 2025 6:21 pm EST
Dolan you need a gm with real hockey brains and wisdom. That’s not DD drury. He can work 24/7 and not get it done. So you can pay him and lose your playoff money and ticket price increase again for the 26-27 season. Happy 100 year anniversary. Leave no stone unturned and you will find him under one of them. He’s in over his head.
Stevielegs
Wed Apr 23 2025 6:13 pm EST
The Nyr won’t make the playoffs next season, and jimmyboy will fire DD.
Stevielegs
Wed Apr 23 2025 5:38 pm EST
re: Ryan DONATO - I would not doubt for even a nanosecond that the Rangers are interested. He's actually a pretty good player. I wouldn't play him on a top line, but if the idea is to get a more talented third line with someone who can take draws, plays physical and can pot goals? He checks the boxes. Strikes me as a player someone like DRURY would target. He'll get a raise from his $2 million this year...probably a three-year contract at $3 or $3.5 million. More or less if there's an NTC or NMC involved...Strange as it is, DONATO's season this past year was what just about EVERYONE thought he'd be doing at the NHL level when he landed with the Bruins. The Wild paid pretty handsomely when he was acquired...the issue, from what I understand, is that DONATO was a bit of a prima dona...wanted to be handed big minutes, but never wanted to earn them...took him a spin through three organizations before he was humbled into a bottom six position with the Kraken. Chicago really kinda rescued him from the dung heap when they set him up with BEDARD...but hey...if you can pot 30 goals with that guy, and hold down that spot? That's a vote of confidence. Anywho, I wouldn't doubt that rumor at all. And while I'm not tripping over myself in the hope he'll come here, I don't think he'd be a bad signing depending on the cost.
tdchi
Wed Apr 23 2025 5:35 pm EST
The only bright side to this announcement is that it seems like it is quite common for large wealthy organizations to give people large bonuses or extensions only to fire them the very next instant they don't deliver. F Dolan....
Ranger47
Wed Apr 23 2025 5:26 pm EST
F Dolan. F Drury.
fotiu22
Wed Apr 23 2025 5:23 pm EST
So if the team wins the cup, what does Dolan do for him? Gove him the garden. Shit they dont make the playoffs and he gives him an extension. Shit Hospo can do that. What has happened to MF?
Kis
Wed Apr 23 2025 5:13 pm EST
Enough of Sullivan he hasn’t made the playoffs in 3 years. Dolan extending Drury is proof that Drury convinced Dolan that it’s the players fault for this year
Jake0104
Wed Apr 23 2025 5:09 pm EST
VtRanger - BWHAHAHAHA!!! Yeah Drew...are you REAAAAAAALLY sure?!? Because we're not!
tdchi
Wed Apr 23 2025 5:08 pm EST
I don't think the Rangers trade LAFRENIERE. Not yet, at least. They got a taste of what he can do in 2023-24, and they're not going to piss that away on a down season where literally EVERYONE played below their level...I could be wrong, but I would be truly surprised if they move him at this point, unless the deal is for someone who is younger, cheaper and who they see as filling a more important organizational role. Like the only two names that come to mind would be Mason McTAVISH or Quinton BYFIELD. And then, I'm not sure either of those teams would be willing to do something like that. I'm sure the Penguins would relish the chance to get LAFRENIERE on a line with CROSBY. But the Pens are bereft of any form of appreciable talent...to get him, they'd need to likely package a couple of firsts and McGROARTY just to get the Rangers' attention. And to trade him within the Metro? The price just doubled...If LAF ever ends up in Pittsburgh, it'll be via a third party and likely a stop elsewhere...even then, I doubt the Rangers would get serious about moving him unless he continues to falter under the next coach.
tdchi
Wed Apr 23 2025 5:08 pm EST
Drew: are you really sure there is not an optimistic Ranger fan who will not defend this abomination?
VtRanger
Wed Apr 23 2025 5:06 pm EST
Drew. Of course. The organization is shrouded in secrecy and reeks of narcissism. That it makes money hand over foot only enables it all.
rf4l
Wed Apr 23 2025 5:04 pm EST
Would Sullivan be GG and Lardiolette III??
rf4l
Wed Apr 23 2025 5:03 pm EST
Even the most optimistic Ranger fans cannot defend this middle finger to us. Dolan and MSG executives really do not understand optics or do anything to regain the fan’s confidence.
Drew
Wed Apr 23 2025 4:52 pm EST
Six degrees of separation here: Jay LEACH, who is obviously no relation to Brian LEETCH...IS...however, the nephew of Stephen LEACH, a bruising forward who had a pretty good career with the Caps and Bruins...but before that...played on the US National and Olympic team with...Brian LEETCH...Now Jay LEACH...who I remember from the Albany Devils from way back when...was a standout captain at Providence College, where his assistant coach was David BERARD...if that name rings a bell? That's our own Brett BERARD's father...so what does that make him?! To quote Space Balls...ABSOLUTELY NOTHING! But yeah, I'd take him over SULLY in a fuckin' heartbeat.
tdchi
Wed Apr 23 2025 4:50 pm EST
CM - only had to wait 6 minutes…munch, munch, munch…mmmm, good popcorn! :^)
JFC31
Wed Apr 23 2025 4:48 pm EST
This Drury extension is Little Jimmy Dolan making a statement that this shit is on the players. Egghead Mika & the other mentally & emotionally weak players on this team were just sent a message…their bullshit whining won’t be tolerated any more!
JFC31
Wed Apr 23 2025 4:46 pm EST
Dolan sure knows how to give Ranger fans/Garden customers the middle finger.
Bob
Wed Apr 23 2025 4:41 pm EST
Tireless pursuit of excellence. LOL. Nob for Life II!!!
rf4L
Wed Apr 23 2025 4:32 pm EST
“Over his tenure, Chris has shown passion for the Rangers, relentless work ethic, and a tireless pursuit of excellence. While we are all disappointed in what transpired this past season, I am confident in his ability to guide this organization to success,” Rangers owner James Dolan said in a statement.
VtRanger
Wed Apr 23 2025 4:31 pm EST
Can any of you actually be surprised? I was hoping he’d get a 1-2 year chance longer for him to facilitate some success or failure.
E
Wed Apr 23 2025 4:30 pm EST
Guess drury isnt getting fired. People be ready for some shit hockey for the next coue of years.
Kis
Wed Apr 23 2025 4:29 pm EST
Done for now fuck Dolan and Drury!!! No tix no thx. The best of jokes
vcp1994
Wed Apr 23 2025 4:28 pm EST
So that’s it the Nyr will be a multi year disaster
Stevielegs
Wed Apr 23 2025 4:23 pm EST
When I tell you that Dolan doesn't give a flying F-K about the NYR's, this is what I mean. The only chance we ever had to get rid of Drury was if he and Dolan didn't get along and this answers that question quite clearly. Glen Sather Part Deux.
Rhet0ric
Wed Apr 23 2025 4:18 pm EST
JFC- waiting for the first F-bomb to be dropped!
ColoradoMark
Wed Apr 23 2025 4:16 pm EST
CM - LOL! This should be good!
JFC31
Wed Apr 23 2025 4:13 pm EST
Drury given a multi-year extension! Lololol! This is too good! Go off, Wall! lol!
JFC31
Wed Apr 23 2025 4:13 pm EST
Was Going to grab some popcorn and come here to read the wall’s reaction to the Drury extension! https://www.nhl.com/rangers/news/chris-drury-agrees-to-multi-year-contract-extension
ColoradoMark
Wed Apr 23 2025 4:13 pm EST
the reason why Kitchener is so good is because they're in no way affiliated with NY :)
Rhet0ric
Wed Apr 23 2025 3:57 pm EST
Oh look, AI can’t convey my thoughts accurately when I’m in traffic. Well done technology. The future would be great if only it works. Maybe Drury can make trades based on Siri
E
Wed Apr 23 2025 3:53 pm EST
sjw. Dale Hunter does excellent work year in and year out for the Knights. I know he's got lots of $$ to help but as we know thru the early Nob for Life years that can be all screwed up too.
rf4l
Wed Apr 23 2025 3:50 pm EST
E. I sure hope so. It's so overdue. He's got 2 major off-season goals IMO from a roster perspective (hiring the right coach is of course priority one): Acquire a young top 6 centre and jettison at least 2 of Z K and P. If the former means KM goes so be it
rf4l
Wed Apr 23 2025 3:45 pm EST
At least 1 Rangers team did not quit.. down 3-0 to the Windsor Spitfires.. the Kitchener Rangers came all the way back to win the series 4-3.. game 7 in OT... and will play my hometown London Knights for the West division final .. and yes there is a connection to NY... back in the day Rangers had Guelph as a sponsored team in the OHL.. in 63 local business man bought the team moved it to Kitchener , renamed the Rangers, same logo and uni to this day .. Emile Francis coached and future Rangers Rod Gilbert and Jean Ratelle played .. ..
sjw
Wed Apr 23 2025 3:37 pm EST
Two guys from the so-called "next generation" of hockey coaches are 1-David Carle. NCAA coach. If you haven't heard of him already, you will. To me, he kind of looks like Brian Leetch's younger brother. Excellent coach who is very likely to be NHL bound.... There is also 2-Jay Leach (Brian Leetch's younger cousin?). He is currently an assistant coach for the BRUINS. He was also the HC for the Providence Bruins before taking an NHL Assistant Coach job with the Kraken
Rhet0ric
Wed Apr 23 2025 2:44 pm EST
Gotcha. Here’s the spicier version—more bite at Drury, still sloppy in a deliberate, “I’m just ranting here” way, with a little cautious hope snuck in at the end: ? Drury’s not trading Lafrenière. Not bc he’s some master talent eval guy. Let’s be honest, he’s botched more prospects than a 2010s Oilers GM. But this time? Maybe—maybe—he actually got one right. Laf’s got that 7yr/$52M deal signed last Oct, $7.45M a year, front-loaded with $11M in bonuses. It’s a big bet, prob too big, but at least it shows he’s not giving up on the kid. And let’s be real, that deal ain’t getting moved any time soon unless another GM loses a bet. Yeah, production dipped this season (17G, 45pts), but last year he put up 28G and looked like he finally figured it out. PP time was limited, the whole team was a mess, and he still held his own at even strength. Not amazing, but not nothing either. Normally this org woulda traded him for a 34-year-old winger with “grit” and a knee brace by now. But Drury’s holding. Which might actually be smart, even if it’s accidental. He’s done the same with Schneider—didn’t trade him when ppl were calling, and now he’s looking like a piece you can actually build with. And maybe, maybe, this is the start of a new pattern? Instead of throwing kids into a blender behind aging stars and calling it “development.” You’ve got Perreault, Berard, Othmann coming. Maybe they won’t be buried behind some vet playing 14 minutes a night on fumes. Maybe the bench opens up for once. Maybe the team finally lets the kids play. So yea, Laf stays. Not bc Drury’s a genius—he’s still like 2-for-7 on prospect handling—but this might be one of the 2. And if the next wave gets a fair shot too? That’s the first real hope we’ve had in a while.
E
Wed Apr 23 2025 2:37 pm EST
Laf alongside Crosby? Resurrected career and 90+ points...
rf4l
Wed Apr 23 2025 2:37 pm EST
Laf alongside Crosby? Resurrected career and 90+ points...
rf4l
Wed Apr 23 2025 2:36 pm EST
Donato? What the fuck sort of rumour is that? Geeesh.
rf4l
Wed Apr 23 2025 1:50 pm EST
Watch laffy to pens for a player to be named later for Sullivan lololol.would not surprise me!
vcp1994
Wed Apr 23 2025 12:08 pm EST
Boom boomer…. https://youtu.be/fCwzY4oeG9Q?si=op7S2AFIIWKKKJaR
Stevielegs
Wed Apr 23 2025 11:58 am EST
Here’s the 3 stooges….https://youtu.be/8eiIMuzV4w0?si=StxHYaZLUVwXE4xx
Stevielegs
Wed Apr 23 2025 10:59 am EST
Way to go Molly Walker and Brian BOITANO!...FUCK ZBAD....as long as he stays (as with Drury) the Rangers are fucked...and SCREW DONATO
Hospo
Wed Apr 23 2025 10:07 am EST
It funny, because while the unabashed jerk-offs from ESPN were verbally felating Florida, the first thing that I thought about was the fucking cap gymnastics they did to get Seth JONES and Brad MARCHAND and Nico STURM...all while Aaron EKBLAD is suspended...so the crazy part of this all is that the league theoretically punished the Panthers for two months by dishing out a stern suspension...BUT...they circumvented the whole thing by putting TKACHUK on the IR and acquiring JONES...something they NEVER would've been able to pull off without tapping that space. And then to load up with MARCHAND *AND* STURM?! Like seriously. Why is there even a fucking cap at this point. For that matter, why the fuck does it matter if a guy is abusing roids. Who got punished here? Just the fans that paid to see a full NHL team and instead got the cap-bending Panthers instead...at this point, the cap/LTIR loophole is such an absolute joke that I wonder about the top teams NOT using the cap like this. Like seriously. By late February? The whole fucking NHL is injured. I'd say half or more of the regular players are contending with a medical issue that any goddamn clinical doctor on the planet would tell them to sit out for four to six weeks...SCHNEIDER is a great example. At any point, a torn labrum will get you a doctor's note that says no fucking heavy lifting and prescribing regular doses of PT and ibuprofen. KREIDER? Guy probably could've been shut down for the season back in November if he had let them...The fact teams DON'T do what Vegas and now Florida are doing is really quite a mystery. Truth is? They're playing the game. They're following the rules as written. And they're WINNING because they are. Simple as that. They're no different than the massive corporations sheltering assets off shore to avoid paying taxes. Should you do it? No. CAN you do it? Yes.
tdchi
Wed Apr 23 2025 10:01 am EST
Oh wow....hockey Viagra......both Sullivan as coach rumors and signing Donato? Why dont they just stick a sharp piece of glass into NYR fans eyes so we dont have to watch this shit show anymore.......
tradestar28
Wed Apr 23 2025 9:36 am EST
Some recent NYR rumor's.... Mike Sullivan has been named as Drury's top choice to replace LAVI... again. Not new news really, he was rumored to be Drury's top choice the prior two times there was a coaching vacancy as well. There were some rumors last seasons that Pens management was looking to move on from him but they didn't because Sidney Crosby is a big fan of his. I think the thinking here would be that he is in the last season of his current deal and that Drury might be able to sway him with a big multi-year deal. I guess it all depends on whether or not the Pens allow the NYR's to talk to him(not that that would stop Drury either).... The NYR's are also reportedly/allegedly in on pending UFA Ryan Donato. Coming off a career season playing with Connor Bedard, I'm sure we wouldn't overpay for him either... There's also rumors that the PENS are talking to/or interested in Alexis LaFreniere. If Drury was thinking about moving on from Laffy, I couldn't think of a worse team to deal him to. That wouldn't come back to haunt us.
Rhet0ric
Wed Apr 23 2025 9:12 am EST
Schneidw. Been saying for YEARS not to trade away first rounders unless you truly aee a cup contender and even then not continually. Look at the incompetent Dreary: If Shitsburgh is granted thr Rangees pick thus June it'll be 5 drafts under his watch and only 3 picks. And that's not even getting into all the 2nds 3rds abd 4ths his flitted away. Just poor asset management.
rf4l
Wed Apr 23 2025 8:27 am EST
Hiring a new head coach with a lame duck gm is not the best way to go. For DD drury not to understand that they named Trouba the captain and he thinks moving him wouldn’t affect the team. And playing Kreider with 3 different injuries while telling the league in the crayon memo he was available is typical of the gm who so wrapped up in his vest . The guy lacks wisdom with his no stone will be unturned of wheel spinning. Too bad sather and Dolan held on to him instead of giving him to shitsburg. Unfortunately it’s typical of sather who more than likely didn’t want anyone who might show him up. And Dolan listened to him. I’m not sure but I think governor sather is out of the picture entirely. The Nyr need and can afford to put together an experienced real hockey brain trust .
Stevielegs
Wed Apr 23 2025 7:54 am EST
Playoffs: Scroll quickly through the 2013-16 drafts which produced all the core players on this years playoffs. 3 takeaways (1) Don't trade away your first round picks Glen Sather, (2) Got to hit on the 1 and 2 overall, and (3) non-scientific take, more high draft picks that are French Canadien and Finnish players bust and certain teams (BOS, VAN, PHL) were terrible at drafting in this era. What can be said for the next generation, 2017 throug 2021? Lets ask Chris Drury
schneidw
Wed Apr 23 2025 7:35 am EST
schneidw: it is because the Rangers have one of the worst GM’s in professional sports . Expect a last place battle with Buffalo next season .The following year his goal will be a 3 game winning streak .
shonuff
Wed Apr 23 2025 7:17 am EST
I did something I’ve never done before yesterday. While sitting in the airport waiting for my next flight, I played the podcast of Mollie Walker from the post that had Brian Boyle on it. You should’ve heard them talk about Mika. They absolutely scorched him. For not trying, for sulking, for the season he mailed in. Boil in particular really wrecked him.
Bob
Wed Apr 23 2025 6:48 am EST
Schneid..what gives? It is Buttman’s wet dream. This is what he calls ‘parity’. What a joke of a league this is.
NYStranger
Wed Apr 23 2025 6:13 am EST
NHL- Watching all these sunbelt teams load up year after year.... tax free and over the salary cap via LTIR. Watching Florida blatantly conduct salary cap circumvention as Matt Tkachuk returns for Game 1 healthy enough to score 2 goals and assist on another.... Playing alongside Jones and Marchand who Zito added with the LTIR space. Meanwhile in NYC, the NYRs are conducting exit interviews and discussing feelings and trust issues because Drury has to trade away Trouba and Goodrow because of the salary cap. Meanwhile, the NYRs played Trouba, Kreider, Fox, Schneider who were all apparently seriously injured when all Drury had to do was use the LTIR to add players? What gives?
schneidw
Tue Apr 22 2025 9:00 pm EST
In regard to Lou Lamoriello: Either one of two things happened here: A. He was offered the chance to retire instead of being fired and he still thinks he has some gas left in the tank(which he doesn't) .....or B. They hated the guy so much that they wanted to fire him before he retires. Those are the only two options :) As a reminder, He is one year older than Glen Sather.
Rhet0ric
Tue Apr 22 2025 8:34 pm EST
Arrrgh.
rf4l
Tue Apr 22 2025 7:59 pm EST
JFC - I think i said pretty much the same yesterday wit.."Meeka the meeka is nothing but a pulseless, over thinking, sad sack who wants everything soft and easy..... and now wants to wax intelligent about it..talk about it ...overanalyze it..becasue that's easy...yet, didn't do a damn thing about it all year....Actions speak louder than words you Putz.."...God I want that fucking Moop gone
Hospo
Tue Apr 22 2025 7:03 pm EST
Anyone who thought that Zibanejad isn’t a soft-as-baby-poop pacifist egghead, the exit interview he gave should erase all doubts! What the fuck business is it of his what Chris Drury or any member of management does? I’m sick of this lack of testosterone generational bullshit! Stop thinking, stop philosophizing, stop worrying about what management is doing, SHUT THE FUCK UP and play hockey god damnit! Get this fucking pussy off of this team! He and Krieder and their self-reflective, intellectual bullshit have been a huge part of the playoff issues with this team all along. They are mentally and emotionally SOFT and you don’t win playoff hockey when you are SOFT! Geezus, his exit interview was fucking pathetic!
JFC31
Tue Apr 22 2025 6:46 pm EST
Drew at least the Islanders finally figured it out . A bit too late probably.
vcp1994
Tue Apr 22 2025 4:48 pm EST
re: DRURY - I mean, here's the deal: If next season is anything like this past season, he's going to be on the hot seat. He's got five years to make an impression, and did OK with two appearances in the conference finals...but again...as much as some of y'all think a GM is instantly responsible for the team he inherits...the first team he sent to the finals was almost entirely built by Jeff GORTON and the second one was MOSTLY built by Jeff GORTON...at least all the main players not named TROCHECK...I'm not the only one looking at those rosters and thinking he doesn't deserve much credit for those banners...but a President's Trophy does win you some job security, and it certainly did in this case...But if the Rangers swing into next season and do anything but slide back into the realm of contention? If they end up looking like a lottery team? His time will come. I can't recall how long he was signed for, but it's probably five years, which means his contract is coming up for renewal next spring. Gonna be tough to argue for a new one if his team is swatting at golf balls. So the rubber hits the road this summer, and I think we'll see a very much redesigned Rangers...I do think both Z and KREIDER will be gone. I'm not sure what he can do on defense, but what he has there now won't work without either some seriously strong additions up front or a solid one in the back. I think he'll take a stab at Sam BENNETT and maybe Trent FREDERIC...the idea will be to make a team that is A LOT more physical to play against, and one that is almost exclusively north-south...we'll see...but I suspect we'll see a significant makeover centered around a core of MILLER, TROCHECK, LAFRENIERE, FOX and MILLER. Part of me wonders if he'll have the balls to move PANARIN...and if it fails? If the Rangers DON'T make the playoffs? DRURY could get the Lou Lame treatment.
tdchi
Tue Apr 22 2025 4:34 pm EST
re: Lou LAMOURIELLO, I can say this: He'd make a fantastic GM if your other choices were Mike MILBURY and Peter CHIARELLI. This is EXACTLY the type of old boy's network BS that drives teams into the ground...this notion that a guy who had such success in the 1990s and early 2000s is still plugged in enough to coach or build a team today...The dude is from a different era. His work with the Islanders was something else. Employed since 2018 and I count fewer than 20 trades made by the guy...I kept scrolling back and forth thinking maybe I was missing a few pages, but no...just one...for almost seven years of service. That's averaging a bit more than two trades a year, even factoring the deals where he moved picks for picks. He didn't inherit a very good system, and the Isles were already on their decline...but...he definitely didn't do anything to improve things...in truth, he did next to nothing but pluck guys off the waiver wire and free agent bargain bin. All the while his core aged and it wasn't very good to begin with...The Isles gave Lou a place to age in anonymity. Now at 82, he can cruise off into the golden years, having essentially kept the Islanders in a hopelessly mediocre pattern and in dire need of a rebuild. Thanks for all the years, Lou! You will be missed dearly by Ranger fans.
tdchi
Tue Apr 22 2025 4:15 pm EST
I get it. We all want...really NEED...something to make the insanity of this past season make sense...how a team can drop so far so fast and for no other reason than...a letter...or a fourth liner being put on waivers...or the captain being traded...or the terrible coach not being fired...the problem here...and I know this is difficult to recall...the Rangers looked REALLY good to start the season. There were hiccups, for sure. But the team jumped out to a fine start. Even pre-season looked alright for a change...it's actually hard to believe, but they went 12-4-1 in the first 17 games of the season...that's on a pace for 57-19-6 record, if you're counting...which, incidentally, would've won them their second consecutive President's Trophy...I sit here writing this and it seems like a different fucking era...'the letter' was allegedly sent on Nov. 25...the TROUBA trade happened a week and change later...at which point the Rangers were still, remarkably, in the right neck of the standings at 14-10-1...good for a 46-35-3 record or enough that they would've edged out the Devils for second place in the Metro...At any rate, the drop...the moment the season started going the other direction...happened days before the letter...and didn't get well underway until the TROUBA trade...THAT was the point of no return...the noise about TROUBA and GOODROW from the off-season...and then 'the letter.' Actually, the only event I can really positively correlate with the Rangers' decline was when CHYTIL went down for seven games an the whole team basically collapsed...that was, oddly enough, right before the DRURY memo...bottom line? I think a rising tide floats all ships...and in this case, the falling tide sends them all back to earth...I think the malaise we saw this spring had to do with a team that lost its way and a coach who couldn't think straight enough to help them find it. Simple as that. And while I would CERTAINLY agree that DRURY didn't help matters...he sped up the decline with his horrible mid-season deals...I'd be a fool to blame whatever ill-timed memo he sent by itself.
tdchi
Tue Apr 22 2025 4:03 pm EST
“Veece” (vcp1994) I saw that on the ESPN ticker! (Lemon Lou) - rf4l, tdchi es Buon? (Good or nah?)
Drew
Tue Apr 22 2025 3:56 pm EST
Vcp. Then Zbad would have to cut his hair!!!
rf4l
Tue Apr 22 2025 3:54 pm EST
Pittsburgh wanted Drury simply hilarious..what a bunch of BS..that was the most hilarious spin since Millbury was a GM.
vcp1994
Tue Apr 22 2025 3:44 pm EST
Lemon lou is available now .let's switch for Drury lolol
vcp1994
Tue Apr 22 2025 2:29 pm EST
Thr disrespect Dolans and Dreary towards yhe fan base is inexplicable, disgusting and reeks of both arrogance and stupidity. The fan base is taken for granted because of the money the Rangers make. Too bad.
rf4l
Tue Apr 22 2025 1:45 pm EST
Of course he is VT. He is a little man. A coward and weasel who’ll tell you what you want to hear. He hates stepping in front of a mic and the media, as it makes it totally uncomfortable. He gives me the impression of a socially awkward big head, who thinks his shit don’t stink. I can only imagine what this fool looks like during private negotiations and GM meetings, etc. My guess is that he’s NOT universally respected amongst GM’s behind the scenes. The only one more moronic than DD is Dolan, giving this prick more time. If he has Sather immunity, we are all fucked for a VERY long time. If you think his deals have been to date (you’d have to be a fool not to), just wait. The worst is yet to come as he’ll do whatever it takes to make the playoffs next season. I called thus outcome in the fall of ‘24. It’s going to get worse before it get Ms better with one small caveat. The coaching hire. If he goes off the board and hires a younger coach with a progressive mindset, he may squeeze more out of this roster (and the pathetic fat cats) than I expected. We’ll see, but I’m not holding my breath. After all, this is the same guy that passed over Knoblauch, Carberry, etc. and tan Hartford into the ground. How he got promoted to not only GM but President is a dereliction of duty on Dolan’s part. How do you like that underlying message you silver spooned prick. Stick to music and sell the NYR. Our fans deserve better. So sad
NCRanger
Tue Apr 22 2025 1:15 pm EST
Hospo. A huge aspect of his inept team building involves over estimating what you have and trading an array of high picks for ineffective rentals thereby compromising the organization's future. Ugh
rf4l
Tue Apr 22 2025 12:54 pm EST
Hhhmmm. I've scoured the web looking for Drury quotes from break-up day. Can't seem to find any. I guess that 11-minute press conference from the weekend is all we're going to get on this debacle of a season after all. If anyone knows otherwise, please enlighten me.
VtRanger
Tue Apr 22 2025 11:24 am EST
STEVIE - Thanks for posting...and the absurdly incompetent DRURY who destroyed the Rangers ORGANIZATION in warp speed with, despite being a former player and captain, his cluelessness about the mindset of pro hockey players and lockerroom, his inept handling of existing players, piss poor player evalution, and inept team building...thus guy remains????? Coach doesn't matter..The Fuckening continues
Hospo
Tue Apr 22 2025 11:12 am EST
Why didn’t McDavid quit down 4-0 in that game last night, Rangers should advise him to quit for the night when down a goal or more. You get a no-trade clause, just coast bro, you still get paid. Don’t worry, if you quit on the ice-stupid coach gives you more ice time. Eventually some young players who actually hustle and try will get sick of it and complain-they’ll get traded and you’re getting more ice time than ever.slow your roll McD, and come to the NYR country club next year when your deal is done.
Puckyou
Tue Apr 22 2025 8:49 am EST
…” when it came out that the Rangers president and general manager specifically named Kreider — and ex-captain Jacob Trouba — in a memo to all 31 other GMs soliciting trade partners. Kreider has maintained that it wasn’t the first time and it wouldn’t be the last time, but he still tried to show up and do his job to the best of his abilities.Several other players spoke about how the memo impacted the locker room, as well as the departures of Trouba and alternate captain Barclay Goodrow.“It’s part of professional sports, but, obviously, at a certain point it becomes somewhat of a distraction,” he said. “I’ve used the word multiple times, therein lies the challenge of dealing with that and showing up and doing the job to the best of your ability. Those are two guys that were massive leaders for us and a big part of our room. I just think there was this dynamic and it’s changing an environment like that. Kreider, who is part of the leadership group as an alternate, admitted that it was challenging to get through the loss of those two players.“Not even to get into the personal relationships we all had, what good people they are, things that they did. Not just around the rink and for our team on the ice, but in the community. The positive impact that they had. Just two very good humans “.….. don’t forget to send DD a thank you note for the memorable season….and The memo….has he put a help wanted ad in the newspapers? …..”Coach needed to make me look good and save my job.” The last 2 did it for 3out of the 4 seasons. I’ll take a small part of the blame but the coach and his assistant, and those thin skinned players were the real culprits. That’s my story and I’m sticking to it. “
Stevielegs
Tue Apr 22 2025 6:27 am EST
schneidw - the labrum is a weird one. My tear was about 50 percent, and the docs didn't want to touch it. I was like 'uh, I can't sleep or move my shoulder in certain directions and I'm in a constant state of pain...' My PT physician was like 'this guy is crazy not operating on this...I can't rehab a tear like this...' Long story short, they made a split operating room decision to NOT fix the damn thing unbeknownst to me and based on how much scar tissue they removed and that I'd lose mobility...which pissed me right off...but come six months in, and my shoulder was completely healed? Good decision...In short, you never friggin' know with shoulder labrum. I was skating with a guy who had to get both of his done and kept putting it off and off and off...And you would've never known it watching the guy play...Said neither arm really bothered him, but they weren't large tears either...Mine? I got to the point where I felt like I was taking a bullet every time I reached my arm in certain directions...So who knows. Can't really medicate a torn labrum. Lord fucking knows I tried. It's one of those things where it either works or it doesn't. And in my case, whatever scar tissue I had was the big issue, not so much the labrum. So who knows. The shoulder is a such a complicated joint that any one small thing goes wrong in it and everything is off-kilter. I will say this: The Rangers' season was over by June...if I were the Rangers and knew this kid was dealing with this injury? I would've STRONGLY advised him to get the surgery and deal with a delayed start to the season...My suspicion here is that his tear was a lot worse and that he needs reattachment surgery, which, like I said, is AT LEAST six months recovery.
tdchi
Mon Apr 21 2025 11:59 pm EST
In regard to the CANUCKS: Well, at least they can still count on their team captain. I mean, what kind of dirtbag would've accepted the team captaincy a year and a half ago and then just walk away? I mean, who would do that, right? Especially when he knew he wanted to play with his brothers, right?
Rhet0ric
Mon Apr 21 2025 10:42 pm EST
Rhetoric boy you can say that again. Have I said that Drury is a moron?
vcp1994
Mon Apr 21 2025 9:42 pm EST
Read somewhere that Tocchet had his eyes set on coaching the Flyers. That would be ok with me. Wondering why Vancouver did not pick his option up. Perhaps he was team JT Miller and not Pettersson. Seems weird. And that team hit the skids quickly.
Bob
Mon Apr 21 2025 9:20 pm EST
DEVILS--- https://www.nhltraderumors.me/2025/04/stunning-update-delivered-by-canucks-on.html
schneidw
Mon Apr 21 2025 9:13 pm EST
There are quite a few people that think Michael Peca would be a good head coach. That said, the time to find this out was around the trade deadline. Fire LAVIHousley then and make Peca the interim coach too see what he could do. Too late now.
Rhet0ric
Mon Apr 21 2025 9:09 pm EST
Rick Tochett is my guy. I love the game plan, the personality, the approach to the game. Watching the 1-2-2 and the 1–1-3 that he uses is exactly what I’ve been calling for years. You gotta forecheck teams
E
Mon Apr 21 2025 9:03 pm EST
Fox has to go he was always slow. He already peaked. To small and slow
vcp1994
Mon Apr 21 2025 8:32 pm EST
SCHNEIDER- How the heck has Schneider played w a torn labrum.. he is freaking a tough kid... agree, Fox needs to get whatever is going on w his legs fixed too, he is so slow now.. it has to be an injury right? Watching Schieffle and Eichel fight for the puck in the dirty areas makes me realize ZBad is not a good fit for NYRs
schneidw
Mon Apr 21 2025 7:35 pm EST
Let pecca try it. Team is not going anywhere next year as long as Drury is here
vcp1994
Mon Apr 21 2025 7:31 pm EST
Also per Vince: Chris Kreider made his pitch to stick around, but at this point, the damage may already been done.... "This is home for me," Kreider said. "This is the organization that gave me an opportunity to live out my dream. I've developed so many incredible relationships and grown up and spent so much time in this area. Obviously, this is where I want to be, and this is the group that I want to help, in whatever fashion, win hockey games." .....In regard to Braden Schneider: ....."I feel like there were times that either, I'd aggravate it, and there would be games and or a string of games where I wasn't as physical as I wanted to be, or I was a little hesitant with it," he said. "That was more of the reason why I wanted to get it done so bad, was because I didn't want to be dealing with that anymore. I knew that there could be more physicality to my game. I didn't think it took away from other (areas), like puck-handling and shooting. That felt fine, but it's something that I definitely was thinking about." ....Why the Rangers would allow him to play through the pain for so long is a valid question, but Schneider said the surgery option was presented at the end of last season and he made the decision to "stick it out." But with the team missing the playoffs this year and looking at a significantly longer summer, the time was now to get it done.... Good question Vince.
Rhet0ric
Mon Apr 21 2025 7:13 pm EST
Per Vince; Adam Edstrom estimated he's "a few weeks" away from being 100%, noting that he plans to stay in New York to complete his rehab before heading home to Sweden for his regular summer training regimen.. Brett Berard will be focused on adding weight. Gabe Perreault will be heading back to Boston College where he has one semester left to finish before focusing on summer training.
Rhet0ric
Mon Apr 21 2025 6:39 pm EST
Quenneville is out per Brooks .
vcp1994
Mon Apr 21 2025 5:33 pm EST
Dan Bylsma now available
Ref24
Mon Apr 21 2025 5:21 pm EST
Apparently both Muse and Peca will be granted interviews by Dreary for head coaching job.
rf4l
Mon Apr 21 2025 5:19 pm EST
Cape. Except you know Stutzle would have been marginalized in NY and Laf would have blossomed in Ottawa.
rf4l
Mon Apr 21 2025 5:08 pm EST
I actually also wonder if they're thinking about Mike PECA. I find it truly odd that neither he nor MUSE were fired with LAV and HOUSELY...that said...I'm not sure either one of those guys could wash the stink away from last season. I seriously don't know how anyone can rebound after a season like that.
tdchi
Mon Apr 21 2025 5:06 pm EST
ColoradoMark - Former Ranger great Jeff HALPERN!?! Do you remember where you where when he scored his one point as a Ranger?! LOL But seriously, though...that's an interesting thought. I mean, he's worked under one of the best coaches in the league over the past decade. Gotta think some of that ability rubbed off on him.
tdchi
Mon Apr 21 2025 5:00 pm EST
If Rick TOCHETT is a UFA, he will be the next Ranger coach. I have very similar feelings about him as I did LAVIOLETTE: I don't have any tangible issues with him, but I don't think he's the right guy for the team or the job...Of course, LAVIOLETTE later showed me what I felt that way...I don't know enough about TOCHETT to really make that kind of call...I do recall him getting a lot of credit for getting Phil KESSEL a couple cups and getting the most out of him...I guess that counts as something...Anywho...if this is who they're going to go for, it's really riding the fine edge of being with the old boy's network and relying on a guy who played hockey in a different era...my point has and continues to be...if you want to compete in the modern NHL, hire a modern coach. The Caps learned that lesson much to the amazement of the rest of the league when they enlisted CARBURY...My guy would be Dave CARLE. I would send a team to set up camp outside his home and throw stacks of hundred dollar bills at him until he relents and takes the job.
tdchi
Mon Apr 21 2025 4:56 pm EST
From the names I’ve heard: Torts, Tocchet, Sully: I guess Sully over the entertaining but crazy Torts and the smug douche-tocchet Flyer Fck! Of the other names: I’d go Jeff Halpern. I’d love Carle from Denver but doubt he would do well either this roster! Q? I think he might be a guy who could get this group going again, but at what cost?
ColoradoMark
Mon Apr 21 2025 4:46 pm EST
Torn labrum can be BRU-TAL. I recently went through that bitch of a bitch of a bitch of surgery and basically lost a year of my life to it...three months of PT and only sleeping two hours at a time...going through life in perpetual haze...surgery, and then another three months of no sleeping and haze...Sometimes you can snap things back into place with orthoscopic surgery and clear out the scar tissue and whatnot...but even that is a long recovery. Three months to get it somewhat restored...six months before you start feeling normal again...If they actually FIX the labrum, it's even worse. Six weeks fully immobilized and in a sling. Light PT for three months. Six months before you really get down to the recovery.
tdchi
Mon Apr 21 2025 4:42 pm EST
On Saturday I got to watch Neil Pionk , Morgan Barron and Pavel Buchnevich . Sunday it was Brett Howden and the guy we should have picked over Lafreniere , Tim Stuzle . Wonder who it will be tonight ?
Caperanger
Mon Apr 21 2025 3:40 pm EST
Schneider gets a chance to get healthy. Maybe Fox should follow his lead. He hasn't been right since the knee injuries. Get it fixed if you can with the longer offseason. Krieder should talk to Adam Graves about the toll taken on your back by scoring in close. I suspect he is on his last contract. The right thing to do would be to move him at the deadline to a cup contender so he has a chance to win one. If he recovers his health at all, it would also probably maximize his value. He might also waive the No Trade to go to a contender. But Drury will probably be a dIck, sell low and force a trade on him over the Summer. That's just how Chris rolls.
HellsKitchen
Mon Apr 21 2025 3:24 pm EST
Not Trots - Torts!!!!
Ranger47
Mon Apr 21 2025 3:23 pm EST
Not a fan of Trots. but I can see a scenario where Drury thinks he wants to go for it with his current (slightly modified) vets before replacing them and Trots with a young-uns coach for the next rebuild...
Ranger47
Mon Apr 21 2025 1:41 pm EST
If trottier can try can't anyone?? Who the hell wants this roster anyway and work with moron Drury.
vcp1994
Mon Apr 21 2025 1:16 pm EST
Braden.
Rhet0ric
Mon Apr 21 2025 1:15 pm EST
Brendan Schneider was dealing with a torn Labrum issue for the last two seasons and he just had offseason surgery to correct it. He said it's affected his ability to be more physical.
Rhet0ric
Mon Apr 21 2025 12:58 pm EST
Calvin de Haan kind of wussed out on his comments today. That said, he's a likable dude. He said he was frustrated and thought he'd get a chance to compete. At 33, he doesn't know if he'll get another chance to play next session . That's why not playing was so hard for him.
Rhet0ric
Mon Apr 21 2025 12:51 pm EST
Elliotte Friedman @FriedgeHNIC Canucks GM Jim Rutherford says team will not exercise option on Rick Tocchet’s contract. Praises the job the coaching staff did. “I would suspect sometime this week, we will have (Tocchet’s) decision.” .....................Not sure I will be able to handle that Flyer Fuck as a Ranger head coach!!! Some things are hard to forget...!!
Hospo
Mon Apr 21 2025 12:00 pm EST
BOB - Meeka the meeka is nothing but a pulseless, over thinking, sad sack who wants everything soft and easy..... and now wants to wax intelligent about it..talk about it ...overanalyze it..becasue that's easy...yet, didn't do a damn thing about it all year....Actions speak louder than words you Putz..I expect FOX to mumble the same warmed over shit....This Core group needs to be shredded (and I'm not talking about the the foregone conclusion of Drury dumping Kreider)
Hospo
Mon Apr 21 2025 11:39 am EST
I swear, Mika Zibanejad comments are a Rorschach test for fans.... What is wrong with his comments? He's basically saying "We all got to be on the same page" or "teamwork makes the dream work" Also: He's the only one willing to address the elephant in the room.... Per Z....“It starts with us players. We have to take ownership of what we do and how we go about things, but I think it has to be cohesive with everyone. This organization doesn't work without the players. The organization, for us players, doesn't work for the people that work above us. We have to work together, as well, and we have to look at it and we have to talk about it.”
Rhet0ric
Mon Apr 21 2025 11:24 am EST
Reading some of the comments from players on X, makes me want to scream. I feel for Kreider…..I believe he is a true Ranger. But Mika comes off like a spoiled baby who didn’t like what management did and sulked his way through the year. I have defended him in the past. Not anymore. You would think that a guy making millions would have some pride in his work.
Bob
Mon Apr 21 2025 10:31 am EST
Hospo. I don't disagree. We'll know more once the draft rolls around. Does it jettison some vets and acquire younger players? That'll say a lot IMO.
rf4l
Mon Apr 21 2025 10:30 am EST
Hospo. I don't disagree. We'll know more once the draft rolls around. Does it jettison some vets and acquire younger players? That'll say a lot IMO.
rf4l
Mon Apr 21 2025 10:23 am EST
RF4L - I think the "kids over vets" or visa versa will all depend on DRURY, not the coach...The best the new coach can have a say in will be the type of player (not age)...OTOH, Hell, DRURY didn't even give Laviolette the type of players he needed, why change now? Anyways, does Dipshit Drury think/know he has at least another 3 more years? Or is the writing on the wall, POs or else?...The latter is what I wrote about in my previous post
Hospo
Mon Apr 21 2025 10:12 am EST
Torts would be entertaining but not much else. I really like the job Tocchet did with the Canucks last year but it unraveled a bit this past season so not sure what to think. IMO whoever is hired Dreary must insist the vets over younger players model is abandoned.
rf4l
Mon Apr 21 2025 9:35 am EST
Vince Z. Mercogliano @vzmercogliano Chris Kreider just rattled off a few things he was dealing with this season. We knew about the back, but just when that started feeling better, he suffered a bad injury to his left hand in the first game after 4 Nations that sounds like it will require offseason surgery. Also said he was dealing with vertigo at one point. #NYR 10:14 AM · Apr 21, 2025 · 14.4K Views
RDW
Mon Apr 21 2025 9:21 am EST
Whatever old boys club member is brought in, one would think that, with the Rangers missing the POs this year, the POs and success are mandatory for the coming year for Drury's future unless there is an internal white flag letter....That would probalbly mean (my specualtion)..old coach and trusty vets (existing one and a few UFAs after Kreider is dealt)..where kids are more likely to be traded then the other core vets..not neccessarily kids for vets...but Drury swapping out kids (Miller, Laffy) for other kids the great talent evaluator has "had his eyes on"
Hospo
Mon Apr 21 2025 8:44 am EST
In regard to John Tortorella: If he gets hired, it means Drury is on thin ice with Dolan. Drury played for Torts the last time he was here and I don't think he is too fond of those years. Torts was also basically the guy to tell Drury that his NHL career was over. The NYR's bought him out and 2 months later, he was done. I can't imagine he has good memories of Torts.... Maybe, but I doubt it.... In regard to Rick Tocchet: If the Canucks really wanted to keep him, how did they let his contract expire? To me, it comes down to what his relationship with JTM was. If It was good he'll be a legit candidate. If not, he'll still be likely to get an interview, but I don't think there's any way he has a shot at being coach. Too be honest, I've liked him as a coach but I wasn't too impressed with the way he handled the 2-ring circus there. I thought he did more to fuel the flames than anything, but that's JMO.
Rhet0ric
Mon Apr 21 2025 8:19 am EST
E = YEP
vcp1994
Mon Apr 21 2025 7:23 am EST
Coaching not issue in Pen land so Sullivan is out; heard Tocchet wants to be in Philly; if Torts is back I am done with this team; I am desperate and would give Quinnville a shot.
steve443c10
Mon Apr 21 2025 1:29 am EST
Wildcard - You might be able to gaslight some with your KAKKO nonsense, but not me, hoss. Any goddamn player who can regularly score on pace for 40 or 50 points...newsflash: They're better than more than half the NHL. And that's what KAKKO was doing with shit for coaches and shit for assignments. In half a season with Seattle, he's already on the higher end of that scale and falling into where I figured he'd be, which is 50-60 points...Tell you what you can do...you CAN say KAKKO didn't live up to his draft pedigree and probably never will. True. Hasn't gotten there. May never get there. You can also say he'll never be an impact player in the NHL...history has your back on that one...but to blather on like he's some sort of bust? Man, it's just laughable. Do your credibility a favor and quit while you're behind.
tdchi
Mon Apr 21 2025 12:51 am EST
https://nypost.com/2025/04/20/sports/the-rangers-lost-season-told-in-three-key-concerning-statistics/
Stevielegs
Mon Apr 21 2025 12:48 am EST
If the Rangers re-hire TORTORELLA, this team is truly fucked. Like bad. Real bad. SULLY and TOCHETT? Not my choices...but I can at least give them a shot...but TORTS would be a real shitshow. Talk about a stepping stone to launch another rebuild...
tdchi
Mon Apr 21 2025 12:48 am EST
What has happened in the 3 years gallant and lardass were the coaches getting over 100 points was they got the players to buy in . Not enough had to do with DD drury, and this past season most of it had to do with him and his demotivating actions. The guy has the personality of an old pair of shoes that belong in the garbage. He can’t lead through words or actions. Hopefully jimmyboy has his people searching for his replacement and use real DD, due diligence. The Nyr have been riddled by DD, dumb decisions. The chemistry between the players, the coaches, and the gm needs better team ingredients .
Stevielegs
Mon Apr 21 2025 12:46 am EST
KIS - Let's get something straight: I've never had any love or hate for KAKKO. I think, as I did when he was drafted, that he's a very good talent and a player who plays a very meat-and-potatoes game. It's not flashy. He never will be a franchise player, nor was he ever billed as one. He's fantastic at holding the puck, he's strong as an ox and he's defensively reliable. And you're going to stand back and tell me he's terrible? Let's also get something straight: The Kraken never scratched him. In fact, they did EXACTLY what myself and others were calling on the Rangers to do, which was to give him more minutes and let him make mistakes, and he responded with his most productive season to date. It's you and Wildcard who are trying to convince the world that this kid sucks and has a bad attitude and all this other nonsense that is just not true...I get it. SUCKS to see a good player frittered away for a bottom-pairing defenseman and a couple of shit picks...Gonna suck even harder when this kid becomes the 50-60 point player he is and when this wall is talking about the stiff we have playing right side and making waaaaaaaaaaaay too much money over the next three years...but seriously...as much as this hurts? Let's stick with facts. And here's the thing: The facts are not on your side. But hey. Don't take my word for it. Read about how dismal KAKKO played in Seattle in this story, which starts out "If the resurgence of 24-year-old Kaapo Kakko is to continue in Seattle..." https://www.seattletimes.com/sports/kraken/whats-next-for-kraken-restricted-free-agent-kaapo-kakko-notebook/
tdchi
Sun Apr 20 2025 10:53 pm EST
VCP: No way to spin this: Chris Drury has been a below-average GM, and the grace period is done. Understand, you’re arguing points against me that I never made re: Drury. I have no delusions nor do I think anyone does. We all have eyes. Heading into 2025–26, the excuse one might traditionally use with a GM or something like “he inherited this” doesn’t hold up. This is his roster. His cap situation. His identity crisis. All of it is on him now. A team that was six wins from a Stanley Cup has gone backwards slower, less rounded, and more disjointed. The blue line bleeds Grade-A chances. Three coaches couldn’t fix it. That’s not a systems issue. That’s a roster issue. Drury built this. There’s one silver lining: Laviolette and his suffocating 1-3-1 system are gone. Let’s be real the 1-3-1 was a disaster for this group. It killed pace, strangled transition, and left the defense hanging the second the trap broke down. It gave off the illusion of structure but offered no actual support in the D-zone. It made skilled forwards look invisible and slow defensemen look even slower. It was hockey on Ambien. And the number of times a period rolled by and the Rangers had not a single high danger shot on goal? They didn’t have ANY SHOT ON GOAL. As in nothing. And no adjustment whatsoever. The players never fit the system, but Laviolette insisted on it and Drury let him. That says a lot about the leadership at the top. Where was Drury saying to his coach, “are you blind? You are in games where you’re generating 2 shots in a period.” So yeah, killing the 1-3-1 was necessary. But it doesn’t fix the bigger problem: this team’s DNA is flawed. Too old, too slow. It never happens instantly. Just one day the team on the ice just shows the signs. Drury’s been in charge long enough. The spotlight is squarely on him now. If something real doesn’t change this season, the next move shouldn’t be a trade or a new coach it should be a new GM. And I think Drury will have no delusions about it.
E
Sun Apr 20 2025 9:49 pm EST
Hospo it probably doesn't matter who the next coach is with moron Drury. Hopefully when they continue to crash Dolan does the needful and kicks Drury out the door
vcp1994
Sun Apr 20 2025 8:40 pm EST
Torts UGH he can't coach he is a moron. But I love his post game comments
vcp1994
Sun Apr 20 2025 8:09 pm EST
The least penalized team in the NHL, Ottawa is becoming acquiainted withhTotinyo referees.
Bob
Sun Apr 20 2025 7:40 pm EST
So, despite two of them still being under contract, seems like Sullivaan, Torts and Tocchet Front runners...I saw the first two coming, not Tocchet..But, does it really matte if Drury is still the GM and conitinues to give (or keep) players the coach can't win with in the NHL?..If we get Sullivan, can we also get MALKIN to play with Pamariana and Kuznetsov??
Hospo
Sun Apr 20 2025 3:53 pm EST
Hospo I can certainly agree with that sentiment. Unfortunately it just adds to his dysfunctional leadership.
vcp1994
Sun Apr 20 2025 3:41 pm EST
VCP/E - I think Drury's moves and actions over the last two years or so, and total disarray he has left not only the New York team but the garbage dump that is the HWP, has been as bad of a perfroemance from a GM that I have seen in ages...whether it's UFAs, off-season trades, in-season trade, deadline deal (either way), coach hiring and the handling of his team and locker room which he should have a pulse on....That said, he has made a few good moves (Miller --but time will tell on that oen, and Carrick)....But, where I differ is I couldn't care less if he answers questions, if he talks to the media, if he gives the fans an expalantion, if he says a single word...keep it close to the vest like he prefers, I don't care....the only thing that matters to me is his actions and how they impact the team and organization.....But hat's why his handling of the Troubs/Goodie/Kreider situations and their effect on the locker room that came out of the public targetting and soap opera he let it become is jsut mind boggling and show how poorly he misread everything (IMWO, of course)
Hospo
Sun Apr 20 2025 3:08 pm EST
E I simply don't understand your philosophy of Drury. Rangers are a big marketplace. His trades are horrible. His coach decisions are poor. His response time is horrible he wasted a whole year. Drury is just a horrible leader..
vcp1994
Sun Apr 20 2025 2:54 pm EST
Watching the CANES gets me thinking - If the RANGERS worked half as hard as Carolina we would easily be in the playoffs.
Cnparda
Sun Apr 20 2025 2:16 pm EST
Can you show me an example of Drury only taking gentle questions? Yeah, I get that MSG has their own media personalities that get multiple shots to steer the conversations in a way that paints the team in a positive light. But I don’t really see where Drury ducks questions. The issue with Drury is none of you have a feel for who the guy actually is. He played for the Av’s and the Sabres with a blank stare. He came to the Rangers, played what? 5-years I think and the entire time he said three words to the media. The guy doesn’t like to talk to anyone outside. He is an enigma of a personality. So, he does the minimum. He’ll sit in on a draft presser. He’ll sit in and announce a coach or UFA signing. He’ll meet in September for a presser. And after that, you might get a deadline and an end of season. And in between? You wont hear anything. He is just a guy out there running the show and telling you nothing about who he is. Maybe he just thinks that there is some kind of sacred wall that exists. There is the team and its operations, and there is the fans. And that firewall doesn’t get breached.
E
Sun Apr 20 2025 1:08 pm EST
wildcard lets be honesty . drury doesnt put himself out there. He doesnt take QA from the press unless they are gentle questions. he is absent from the fans and the press period.
vcp1994
Sun Apr 20 2025 1:01 pm EST
Shaggy - agree 1000%...but he is obviously getting another year..he must ass kiss the right people..............ANyways......any rumors or speculaations out there on the new coach?.....I can't see it being anybody outside the old Boys Club with Drury's job depending on this season......I'm really thinking that none of the vet core will be dealt (except Kredier), but youngsters will be swapped out ALA FLUFFY for Punk Ass Zegrss
Hospo
Sun Apr 20 2025 12:59 pm EST
People bitching because Drury had a quick presser after the coaching move. Drury has a media day after breakup day. Or has the last two years. I don’t think this was his one and only post season presser. This was because of the coaching move.
Wildcard
Sun Apr 20 2025 12:55 pm EST
PJ - Yeah, Carrick was a good pick up by DRury and busted his ass all all year...need to get him back to 4th C though..Cuylle and Remps for sure also..Edstrom finally started using his size towrfds the ens...I for one wouldn't mind a Remps-Carrick -Edstrom 4th line at all...I have alwys loved SCHNEIDER, nd he cares for sure, but didn't think he had a good year at all, prtly getting cught up with all the meh D-men Drury brought in...As we know, the problem is with the top plyers and line..which need to be changed to some degree..
Hospo
Sun Apr 20 2025 12:39 pm EST
Dolan doesn't care.. building sells out. Done until Drury is gone.
vcp1994
Sun Apr 20 2025 12:07 pm EST
Happy Easter, all! How is it everywhere you read, Drury is safe?? In any other organization, where the management has screwed up a team as bad as Drury has the last few, they'd be looking for a new job. Chris Drury, nope....secure as can be. This team has gone from being super likeable, to detestable in a season. And it's mostly due to mis-management by Drury....whether it's bad contracts, bad team construction, poor asset management (re: awful trades)....everything is on the GM....yet he's not even on the hot seat! This team all but wrote an article for the Post to say they quit on the GM back in December. I get that the lunatics don't get to run the asylum...but Drury is the sh*ts!!! He needs to go. Now!!!
shaggy
Sun Apr 20 2025 11:04 am EST
SB gave a shite….
PJ
Sun Apr 20 2025 11:03 am EST
Hospo…Cuylle, Carrick, Edstrom, Rempe and to some extent Schneider all played like they have a shite….Kreider had a great career with the Rangers but like it or not he and Z were never the leader type we want….Z will be very hard to move based on his comments stating he earned his contract and plans on staying here…At this point they aren’t our future anyway….I agree with Messier when he said the Rangers were counting on and needed Laffy and Kakko to be the new stars in New York and it hasn’t happened….One is now gone and Laff had a bad year….The why’s are still being debated…..
PJ
Sun Apr 20 2025 10:30 am EST
PJ --Happy eaaster...can't argue with the Laffy and Miller assessments.....and there were other youngsters that didn't play as well as they could also...The only hope we have is to hope that these kids were just collteral damage to what Drury and Laviolette did to the team and organiztion..and can regroup next year...Personally not holding my breath on that as long as the CORE remains the same.....It would also be nice if they had some good, young, physically impactful Hot shots ready to contribute rathe then players that aren't ready (Perrault) or AHL-NHL tweeners like Berrard, OTH, Parsinnen ..Then again, that's all on DRURY..As is the woeful defensive roster.......I did like the JT MILLER trade by Drury so maybe....nah...
Hospo
Sun Apr 20 2025 10:19 am EST
JFC - Happy Easter! .but can't say I agree with that....First, on TROUBA, yep, he shares in some of the INITIAL blame but it was the incompetent handling of the situation that made it so TOXIC....Then there's KREIDER, no doubt he also shares in the blame...But he was the onloy guy, a life long Rangert, that was thrown to the wolves and specifically idnetified s somebody the organization didn't want..basically a guy just waiting for the Axe to fall..and plenty or rumors of other rteniso with Kreider and Ranger mangement..Again can yo usay TOXIC?..So here's the question, why couldn't favorite sons and Lard Ass's favorites--ZSOFT, FOX and TRo and Panarian_ do anything? ...regroup the team, lead by example, any fucking thing other then MOPING around all season, dead men skating, leading the team with selfish soft pansy ass hockey, the worst body language imaginable..I could go on with these mamalukes..They re as guilty as anybody IMWO.....But again, as TOXIC a situation as one can get this year becaue of DRURY and, to a lesser extent, Laviolette...They all basically gave up and decided not to fight it
Hospo
Sun Apr 20 2025 9:56 am EST
Happy Easter!
PJ
Sun Apr 20 2025 9:50 am EST
Well we have Laffy and K. Miller to lead us into the future…..Nothing to worry about…LOL…Talk about quiting…Laffy gets paid and tanks the rest of the season….No heart…Miller no brain…The Tin man and Scarecrow…..We are in good hands….
PJ
Sun Apr 20 2025 9:34 am EST
SHO - that been the NYR goal for the last 60 years, and today, and into the future. They don’t care about cups. They care about putting on a good show. And what better show is there than a dramatic tragedy? Quick, name 3 plays from Shakespeare….exactly.
Limbo
Sun Apr 20 2025 9:29 am EST
JFC - absolutely agree with everything you said. The good? 2/3rds of that leadership crew are gone, or will be gone shortly. And, if he isn’t shipped out as well, Mika has been sufficiently neutered as a so-called leader. He is, and always will be, a follower. He followed the 2 pouters that drove this year into a huge pity party of pouting pussies. JT Miller is a dick, but at least he doesn’t pout. Mika the meek will do what he has always done, follow the leader. And, TBH, if he has to stick around, Mika needs a bit more of asshole in his game.
Limbo
Sun Apr 20 2025 9:11 am EST
So Drury new goal is to make the 16 team 91 points playoffs next season ??? I have to apply as an intern at MSG .
shonuff
Sun Apr 20 2025 9:10 am EST
Oh, yeah and HAPPY EASTER!
JFC31
Sun Apr 20 2025 9:08 am EST
Hospo - AFAIAC the majority of the blame falls on 3 players…Trouba, Kreider, Zibanejad. Yes, Drury was stupid to send out a memo that was subject to being leaked. Stupid, naive, pick one…it just should not have been done that way. He should have done the outreach by phone, speaking to teams individually. However, it’s pretty obvious what happened once Trouba & Kreider found out about it…they TANKED…decided they were gonna pout and stick it to Drury. Kreider has irreparably stained his Rangers legacy because not only did he pout and no longer talk to the media, his on-ice performance turned to shit (I don’t wanna hear about any fucking back “injury”)and he took Zibanejad along with him. Zibanejad proved all of us right who say he is a pussy pacifist who could never win a Cup while in a leadership position. Leaders don’t do what he did! The 2 introspective, navel-gazing, sensitive boys acted like petulant children. People seem to forget the glorious lives these guys get to live in NYC, making GENERATIONAL money…money that guarantees that their families will thrive for generations…and rubbing elbows with celebrities in all the chic parties.Compare that to your a average schmoe whose boss is a piece of shit who berates and embarrasses them…but, they don’t get to QUIT or purposely perform poorly because they need the money. So they SWALLOW THEIR PRIDE and push forward. Those two millionaires QUIT! And then there is Trouba who got more opportunities to meet people and get involved in celebrity-status events he NEVER would have participated in in Winnipeg or any other city other than maybe LA. He was lauded for his artwork and his charitable giving…huge chunks of time were spent fawning over him and his wife. But, at the first sign of adversity, he stopped leading, stopped talking to the press. Do any of us think he didn’t also INFECT the locker room with “poor, poor pitiful me” bitching to his team mates while he cursed Drury and told them all that he’d do the same to them one day? Fuck all three of them. We can talk about how stupid Drury was with that memo and his personality etc & how stubborn Laviolette was all day long but the bottom line is this team had the talent to easily make the playoffs and the CORE LEADERSHIP QUIT…Drury & Laviolette should have handled things differently but….they QUIT! And that is unforgivable!
JFC31
Sun Apr 20 2025 8:02 am EST
He has risen indeed! Happy Easter!
Ranger47
Sun Apr 20 2025 6:45 am EST
Happy Easter Sunday for all our fellow Christian’s. He has risen
NCRanger
Sun Apr 20 2025 6:44 am EST
Exactly Stevie. This statement completely confirms that the Dolan mandate are the playoffs and that sadly, he’ll be back again next season. The only question is how much worse he screws up the team to make the playoffs. Maybe I’m overthinking it, but I this should make every fan extremely nervous. Always trust actions over words
NCRanger
Sun Apr 20 2025 3:21 am EST
https://www.hockeyfeed.com/nhl-news/mark-messier-unveils-his-plans-to-fix-the-rangers
Stevielegs
Sun Apr 20 2025 3:01 am EST
“My focus is on doing everything I can to make sure we’re a playoff team next year.”…. He doesn’t have the balls and leadership skills to say’ and to win the Stanley cup’. That’s all anyone needs to know about him.
Stevielegs
Sun Apr 20 2025 2:31 am EST
Hospo I think those 5 and most of the team followed them mainly because DD drury has no respect for his players , and the 2 he fired yesterday pushed the team to quit on them with their genius system. It was fairly obvious to me from almost the beginning of the season and even in the off season. Management did the usual go for the presidents trophy and flame out in the playoffs because they overused their stars to get there. If your defense system is so good why do your goalies have to stand on their heads to get wins in many of the games? DD drury is the leader of this dysfunctional organization and has earned to be terminated now. He’s a weasel and a liar, with completely dishonest statements after the fact. He hides all year except for a few of his 11 minute zoom meetings. He won’t even have face to face press conferences most of the time. He thinks he’s the wizard of oz behind the curtain. But I think deep down he knows he’s in over his head, but he will sacrifice anyone and everyone to make believe that is not so. He’s treacherous. If Dolan can’t see through those bullshit statements from yesterday, then the Nyr are doomed until he does. Drury is not a leader, and for those that think he is, I say he’s a really bad leader. The guy is a poisonous snake, and the hockey gods will never let him win the Stanley cup.
Stevielegs
Sat Apr 19 2025 11:57 pm EST
Did Molly Walker really write "A majority of the blame for this disastrous season, however, does not appear to fall on Laviolette’s shoulders. That belongs to the roster construction by president and general manager Chris Drury, as well as insufficient efforts from marquee players. ”....Pretty damn accurate in my book...and I am no Molly Walker fan!!....But, yes, the 5 core vets (Zbad, Panarin, Fox, Tro, Kreider) are all decaying, provide zero leadership and were all on cruise control all year and Laviolette had zero clue how to get them to play or get the best/better from 90% of the roster.. but for a man (Drury) who's moves and player handling over the last two years turned the Rangers from a President Cup winner to what is now a poorly constructed bottom feeder TEAM and an organization in tatters and with no real help for next year..well that the person responsible for this still has a job is just insanity
Hospo
Sat Apr 19 2025 11:51 pm EST
Don’t know what we did to deserve this shitbag owner.
NYStranger
Sat Apr 19 2025 10:26 pm EST
Jfc31 Drury doesn't have a Brain in his body . Biggest fucking jackass beside sather.
vcp1994
Sat Apr 19 2025 10:25 pm EST
Let's hope season ticket holders cancel. Drury has to go..can we flood mag with calls ???
vcp1994
Sat Apr 19 2025 10:04 pm EST
Drury should ask for permission to interview Tim Gleason from the Canes. He is the architect of their defensive system. We have the best goalie in the world (and we’re paying him as such)and they need to allow Shesty to shine. Having the best goalie should not be used as an excuse to not play defense…that’s what they did with Hank! Forwards should not use it as an excuse not to back check. Play tight defense and counter punch. Gleason knows how to get a team to play effective defense. They were also #1 in PK. The difference is that Gleason would have a lot more offensive tools to work with than he has in Carolina.
JFC31
Sat Apr 19 2025 10:03 pm EST
Let's hope season ticket holders cancel. Drury has to go..can we flood mag with calls ???
vcp1994
Sat Apr 19 2025 9:52 pm EST
Dreary's presser was 11 minutes???
rf4l
Sat Apr 19 2025 9:37 pm EST
Dolan’s dictatorship of his pro teams are a joke. Zoom call cuts off at 11 mins…that’s all he gives the media after a year if shit? Like I said before - Little man who runs and hides, will throw others under the bus to CYA himself, media with canned questions in fear their media credentials will get revoked, etc etc. I agree w/ you TD…this GM is a joke. Don’t know how many times I can say it. Began to see the signs in year 2 starting w/ the Buch trade. The guy has zero negotiating skills, interpersonal skills (that 11 min zoom call must’ve killed him today), no GM camera shits during MSG broadcasts, etc. The only good trade he made was Nils L. for a first and cond. 3/4. Best FA signing and only FA signing I liked was Trochek. Everything else besides an average at best drafting record so far, is a complete fail. Make no mistake, this guy is all talk no ability. Watch and see. I can only hope he makes a competent coaching hire for once, but not holding my breath. Same guy that passed on Caps and Edmonton coach for fucking Lardass. Can only hope he’s here for another year. That last line about doing anything to make the playoffs leaves me scared shitless. This guy will sell/trade every asset (think Perrault, Othmann, Laff, etc) yo make the playoffs. I’m not sure he survives another non playoff season under the volatile Dolan. I may be wrong, but don’t think he has the same protections Sather did. Maybe he’ll try to talk Dolan into another letter if things go really south next year. Or he kicks into hiring a competent young fresh minded coach who gets the most out of the roster and finds early success in spite of the GM/Pres
NCRanger
Sat Apr 19 2025 9:03 pm EST
The fact that Drury did not fire Housley early in the season is all I need to know. He is clueless. Not only does he not know how to communicate with players without crushing chemistry, he doesn't know how to deal with a coaching staff so abysmal and a head coach so rigid it was a league joke. Enough.
punchrolfe
Sat Apr 19 2025 8:54 pm EST
Dreary's media conferences is all rehearsed. This asshole's mistreatment of the Ranger fanbase is disgusting. What an asshole. This horrible year looks good on you...
rf4L
Sat Apr 19 2025 8:45 pm EST
Well I am praying CYA = C-Ya! Drury blames another shitty coach that he hired and backed and says he will be looking at everything? Oh, that’s rich. Every time this joker makes a trade or signs a FA, he creates 3 other problems and while he does seem to recognize these new problems he creates even more problems doing the fixes. The net result the last 4 years is the trash heap the Rangers have become. Can’t wait to see how he ‘fixes’ his latest bungles. No not really. Can’t wait until he gets the boot then see what new imbecile Dolan hires. Fun times!
NYStranger
Sat Apr 19 2025 6:48 pm EST
Another waste of another year I am done until Drury is gone.
vcp1994
Sat Apr 19 2025 6:44 pm EST
Holy bs….“Leading into the season, given the success we had the last few years, we had high expectations. Quite simply, we fell short across the board,” president and general manager Chris Drury said on a conference call Saturday. “Nobody here takes it lightly. We know our fans are frustrated, and they deserve a better season than this. It starts with me. I need to do a better job, and give the staff and players the opportunity to succeed.”“And while ultimately I made the decision a new voice was needed behind the bench, everyone here — players, management, staff — need to take ownership of this season and will be having direct, honest conversations during exit meetings on Monday about what our expectations are for the summer and moving forward, getting ready for next season.” Drury was asked if the team had a culture issue, about the multitude of players who expressed their frustrations this season and what he feels the team needs.Despite answering all of the aforementioned questions with a variation of a similar response — that he’ll be evaluating everything — Drury did say he was wide open going into this coaching search. “I’m not going at this with any preset dispositions,” he said. “If it’s a first-time coach and it’s the best fit, great. As far as what the team needs, again, we’re just trying to find the best fit we can to do what we need to do. … We’re looking at a lot of different scenarios and a lot of different candidates.” As has become customary during Drury’s tenure, the Zoom call was cut off at 11 minutes, with several beat writers still raising their virtual hands with questions. It has been expected that Drury would remain, though his seat can only grow hotter from here. “We’re obviously all frustrated and disappointed with how things ended and not being in the playoffs,” Drury said. “My focus is on doing everything I can to make sure we’re a playoff team next year.”…. Guess that’s Dolan’s warning, no playoffs no job ….
Stevielegs
Sat Apr 19 2025 6:27 pm EST
Well that’s a start , now if only Drury gets sent packing and then Dolan sells the team
Caperanger
Sat Apr 19 2025 6:16 pm EST
Your number one D call up was Mancini and I didn’t want him sent down to begin with….Trading him away made zero sense….
PJ
Sat Apr 19 2025 6:08 pm EST
Hated to see Mancini go...Could have been a real inexpensive gem on our next gen D.
Ranger47
Sat Apr 19 2025 5:52 pm EST
There are 3 players I wish the Rangers still had: Brett Howden, Morgan Barron and Victor Mancini. I think the argument was that all 3 were easily replicated. But there is something to be said for young homegrown guys. But expectations for Howden were too high.
ColoradoMark
Sat Apr 19 2025 4:31 pm EST
Drury with “It starts with me” is a bunch of crap….You have now fired three coaches…When does it end with you gone?…..
PJ
Sat Apr 19 2025 4:23 pm EST
td: Facts tend to predictable. Like I said. Other players are irrelevant. Kakko wasn’t good. Still isn’t good. Time to let go of the dream. He failed. Has he played well he would have played more. End of story. And how does the fact that a second team uses Vesey the same not matter? That means good crying was not warranted.
Wildcard
Sat Apr 19 2025 4:02 pm EST
I call bs … Mr 2 words behind the bench? So why did you fire him DD cya? ….. Vince Z. Mercogliano @vzmercogliano · 2h Asked Drury for his response to mounting #NYR player frustration and whether communication needs to be improved: “We’re going to look at every single aspect of this. Certainly, I’m always critical of myself and trying to find ways to be better. It starts with me, and I will continue to do that. “As far as players — and we’ve had a few this year talk about ice time or scratches — we certainly want players here who want to play. We don’t want players who are happy being scratched. I know for a fact that Lavi is really big on communication and communicated with players throughout his two years here about where they stood.”
Stevielegs
Sat Apr 19 2025 3:25 pm EST
Pretty sure I am done until Drury is gone.
vcp1994
Sat Apr 19 2025 2:33 pm EST
Td you love for kakko is making your arguments ridiculous. Wild is say he was scratched at his second team because the giy isnt as good as you would lile him to be. He was goven the opportunity here to play top 6 minutes and didnt produce. He spouted off got his wish. He got top 6 min and PP time at hos second team and giuess what? He didnt produce again. It got to the point he was scratched at his second team. So people who are much more qualified than you( people signed on a NHL staff) must be stupid as well. The guy isnt producing !!!! He is good for a 3rd line player. That is all he has shown so far. Believe me we all wanted him to be a star here for the rangers. He is responsible, plays well on the boards can hold the puck what he lacks is speed. Without the speed he will stuggle to become a star. Thats my opinion and that means shit as well orherwise an NHL team would have signed me to work for them
Kis
Sat Apr 19 2025 2:11 pm EST
re: LAVIOLETTE - Zero surprise. I guess I kind of agree it's strange they didn't just do this on Friday...but man, the writing was on the wall with this guy BACK IN FUCKING NOVEMBER...I'll say this much: I STRONGLY disagree with the notion that this team didn't quit on him. The team started off rather well. The turning point of the season was the road trip across Canada. THAT was the beginning of the end...After that trip? The team was different. Seemed like everyone was skating in molasses. And that was before the stupid 'open for business' letter DRURY sent...The team might have not liked the way he was treating players...and certainly, when you have vet leaders like TROUBA and GOODROW unceremoniously kicked to the curb, it's gonna have an impact...but the problem with them all a long was that LAVIOLETTE kept on forcing the team into an approach to the game that literally didn't fit any of them outside of the bottom goddamn line, which only played six or seven minutes. I know if I were in the lineup, I would be asking my mates what the fuck is this guy's deal and why is he making us do shit that his clipping our offense off at the roots...There was, it seems, a quite clear disconnect between what DRURY saw as a good roster and what LAVIOLETTE really wanted to succeed, which is essentially the same team GALLANT was trying to assemble: This low-skill, hard-checking, north-south group that could trap and knock in the odd goal or two...This is why the old-school coaches are fucking toxic...because none of them can see the value in east-west hockey or how it can be incorporated into the modern game...but I digress...the CLEAREST example of the team absolutely and unequivocally quitting on this shitbird is how he pushed and pushed and pushed for north-south and his top two lines...***ALL FUCKING SEASON LONG***...just ignored him. PANARIN, Z, LAFF, KREIDER, FOX, and for the most part, TROCHECK just ignored him and did there thing. SMITTY JR. tried to play north-south...And that was the absolute irony of it all...that CARRICK, REMPE, EDSTROM, VESEY and BRODZINSKI...throw BERARD in there for shits and grins...were the only ones playing north-south...and they were the guys who got shorted minutes regularly...which, to me, would give me even less respect for the asshat coach...the coda for LAVIOLETTE is that he was handed a very good lineup and really had to stand by and let these guys play their game...but the more he tried to tinker, the more fucked this team got. The more he tried to shoehorn the team into whatever fucked approach he had, the worse the played...I've said this for weeks and even months now...the Rangers' chance to make the playoffs died when they didn't fire LAVIOLETTE after the New Year. The right move to do would've been to drop the ax and let someone else make a go...but instead, DRURY let the team limp by doing the same checked-out shit night in and night out...and that's my epilogue with LAVIOLETTE...and my response to anyone who doesn't think the team quit on him: The SHEAR and UNADULTERATED lack of passion these guys showed in the last month of the season...to have folks HERE rightly compare them to the bullshit money-grubbing pukes who played the Rangers into the first year-long lockout...The fact that a modern hockey team could ever go from a contender to THAT level of disinterest? THAT right there tells you how badly they quit on LAVIOLETTE...and I'll finish by saying this: I don't fucking blame them one bit. I didn't like LAVIOLETTE before he got to the Rangers. Like with GALLANT, I said 'meh? Let's hope for the best...' What we got was what I expected, which is total shit. I hope DRURY understands now that the more he taps the old boy's network, the more he's going to have these rollercoaster seasons...if he taps TORTS, SULLY or QUENNVILLE, we're going to be right back here in a couple of years. It's time to find someone with a brain, and not just connections.
tdchi
Sat Apr 19 2025 1:43 pm EST
schneidw - The only thing DRURY has done for this team is draft some decent players. Everything else has been a trainwreck for this guy. His only decent trade to date has been the JT MILLER trade...and that wasn't even his doing...MILLER just wanted to come home...the rest? Dude, he's been terrible. The only times he's NOT been terrible is when it comes to correcting his terrible mistakes. Like the NEMETH debacle...Absolutely awful signing that made no sense from day 1. He managed to 'rescue' that terrible contract by at least getting EMBERSON from the Yotes...a second rounder for EMBERSON was an overpay, but with NEMETH's shitty deal as a rider, it became a pretty good one...Of course then he waived EMBERSON and lost him for nothing...but such is DRURY...The deals he made this season sucked and blew. The KAKKO deal was laughably bad. The TROUBA deal was close to it. The LINDGREN/VESEY move really depends on what PARSSINEN does, but that's another we'll probably look back on and wonder why they got so little...Were it not for his drafting, I would rank DRURY a bit higher than CHIARELLI and MILBURY for among the worst in NHL history.
tdchi
Sat Apr 19 2025 1:39 pm EST
Note to Molly… the players quit because of DD and lardass. They sucked the life and morale out of the players and never fixed it.
Stevielegs
Sat Apr 19 2025 1:37 pm EST
Drury and Kreider cannot coexist. I believe Kreider quit on the team but I rather keep him and can Drury.
Jake0104
Sat Apr 19 2025 1:37 pm EST
LOL Wildcard. So predictable. Oh, KAKKO got scratched because of the way he played?! That's a good one. There were at least eight other forwards in the lineup more deserving of a scratch than he was. But because that doesn't fit your KAKKO-is-terrible narrative, you gloss right over it...and who the fuck cares what Colorado does with VESEY or anyone else. The point on VESEY was that he played well when he played, and so did the Rangers, which makes scratching him for as long as he was scratched AND at the expense of other players who clearly WEREN'T playing well...that's why it was stupid to scratch him...Oh and JONES too? We're going there? Oh this is coming from the guy who is saying VAAKANAINEN was one of the best Ranger defenders...so I'm not surprised there...but the rest...sheesh man. I'm used to you carrying the water...but this is just flat-out arguing for the sake of arguing...and remarkably on a side of the argument that is so clearly wrong.
tdchi
Sat Apr 19 2025 1:34 pm EST
Molly wants crackers….”Laviolette often stuck by his veteran players and kept faith in what had worked in the past despite little success with it. A majority of the blame for this disastrous season, however, does not appear to fall on Laviolette’s shoulders. That belongs to the roster construction by president and general manager Chris Drury, as well as insufficient efforts from marquee players. ”
Stevielegs
Sat Apr 19 2025 1:32 pm EST
LAV- Crazy thing, if ZBAD buries the wide open shot, the NYRs go up 3-1 against FLA last year... who knows? Still, NYRs lack of effort and disjointed system was painful to watch this year... Lavs had to go.
schneidw
Sat Apr 19 2025 1:22 pm EST
Well, a Big Country Lard Ass firing was long overdo...and a no brainer move...but the real architect behind the historically bad season and dead organization is DRURY..and he's still here ...and as long as DRURY and his icompetence and hoorendous moves and team building is till in charge, the Rangers are totally fucked...but it will be interesting to see how bad The Fuckening is
Hospo
Sat Apr 19 2025 1:22 pm EST
Well DD was right about ind thing…..It starts with him. No doubt! I can only hope Dolan fires him, which I doubt will happen this year.next season…..but not sure he has Sathers Teflon status. Only question is…how much does he fuck up this team to save his own ass
NCRanger
Sat Apr 19 2025 1:16 pm EST
Having respect for 2 guys who helped take the Nyr down a rabbit hole is rabbit who made the hole. DD is an asshole . Avery should have kicked his ass in front of uncle daddy.
Stevielegs
Sat Apr 19 2025 1:08 pm EST
Vince Z. Mercogliano @vzmercogliano · 14m Drury: “I have an incredible amount of respect for both of them (Laviolette and Housley)… We had high expectations. We simply fell short across the board… it starts with me.…. @vzmercogliano · 15m Drury said he’s not going to get into conversations with James Dolan and whether he’s been given any assurances that he’ll be back next season. #NYR….. it started with DD and Dolan should know that and end DD now….clear the deck ….
Stevielegs
Sat Apr 19 2025 1:05 pm EST
Well then. Lardass fired…bit too shocking or surprising. I want a shocker factor. Until the head of the fish is cut off not much will change. Unfortunately, Dolan can’t fire himself. Drury the incompetent socially awkward GM will remain and that overall, is bad news. Let’s see who the next hire is. Another retread. Sullivan, Tocchet (that would be hilarious), etc. His many coaches is DD still paying? 3? Is W Quinn still on the payroll? And now getting ready to hire coach #4 (yeah, I know Quinn was hired under Gorton ownership, but DD went to bat for him no doubt). Don’t care how many billions Dolan rolls around on, you don’t want 2/3 coaches on the payroll when you’re into hire #4. That can’t make no Dolan happy, especially after no gate this year. DD you’re effectively in notice (even though I’d no better like so many and dire your incompetent ass today) going into next year unless he’s Dolan’s next Teflon GM aka Sather 2. Then we’re all really fucked for a very long time. The only thing that would make me slightly happy is if he hired a coach like D.Carle, or another young coaching prodigy on the rise. Tired of the retreads. Let the young guys play. Give them ice and cultivate their play. Time to let the old guard slide back into reduced roles or let them move on. Have very little faith in Drury to do the right thing. He’s a CYA GM and will do what in his own best interest, not the teams. Don’t think players respect him much. Go back to your pizza joint and call little league WS’s games chubby
NCRanger
Sat Apr 19 2025 1:00 pm EST
Come on jimmyboy make it a happy Easter and send DD to the unemployment line.
Stevielegs
Sat Apr 19 2025 12:58 pm EST
Drury staying shittttttttttt
vcp1994
Sat Apr 19 2025 12:58 pm EST
How could they play without effort, without energy so consistently without anything changing? No significant lineup changes. No vets paying any price for underachievement? The coach had to go. Problem is that the same guy will hire yet another coach that has proved he sucks at hiring coaches.
Bob
Sat Apr 19 2025 12:55 pm EST
EDIT: Chris Drury-- I am on the fence w Drury and mostly hold him accountable for the terrible drafting that took place while he was working on Gorton, and his reactionary signings of Tinordi, Nemeth after the Russian fiascos (MSG reactions to Shesty-Buch car wreck and Panarin SA accusations... The Buchnevich trade clearly was a failure, but I acknowledge the salary cap constraints.. Letting Knoblach leave and signing Laviolette was absolutely the wrong decision.. so where does that leave the NYRs? Drury is working on changing the Country Club culture and has gotten rid of salaries and gotten some good returns for damaged assets... I can go either way with Drury.... That defensive system of Lavs with a disaster and I find the lack of forecheck & effort by Pararin, Kreider, ZBAD, Lafreniere unacceptable... what next?
schneidw
Sat Apr 19 2025 12:53 pm EST
Chris Drury-- I am on the fence w Drury and mostly hold him accountable for the terrible drafting that took place while he was working on Gorton, and his reactionary signings of Tinordi, Nemeth after the Panarin fiasco... The Buchnevich trade clearly was a failure, but I acknowledge the salary cap constraints.. Letting Knoblach leave and signing Laviolette was absolutely the wrong decision.. so where does that leave the NYRs? Drury is working on changing the Country Club culture and has gotten rid of salaries and gotten some good returns for damaged assets... I can go either way with Drury.... That defensive system of Lavs with a disaster and I find the lack of forecheck & effort by Pararin, Kreider, ZBAD, Lafreniere unacceptable... what next?
schneidw
Sat Apr 19 2025 12:43 pm EST
That Dreary is about to hold a press conference tells me his job is safe.
rf4l
Sat Apr 19 2025 12:41 pm EST
Housley gone too. Apparently Peca and Muse will be able to interview for the head coach position.
rf4l
Sat Apr 19 2025 12:38 pm EST
Please confirm Phil Housley in the termination for the love of god.
shonuff
Sat Apr 19 2025 12:34 pm EST
Now fire the real problem, Chris Drury.
Jerry_Garcia
Sat Apr 19 2025 12:33 pm EST
Heard drury will interview Trottier for the position. What does it matter? How many coaches in how many years?
fotiu22
Sat Apr 19 2025 12:32 pm EST
That's a relief. Shouldn't be because it was a no-brainer decision.
rf4l
Sat Apr 19 2025 12:31 pm EST
Bob: That’s part of why Lav is gone I think. And why the other two assistants are still there. At least for now. Lav has said in the past, he assigns jobs to coaches and that’s their area. I wonder if he is loyal to a fault with that. If the D system that clearly wasn’t working was discussed and he jsut didn’t change it. He stuck with his guy and went down with his guy. IF (and I know it could be a large if) that is the case, I can at least respect that sort of standing. But it is not very smart. If it is the case his job was to step in and demand change. It’s jsut interesting that the D was the biggest issue and the assistant in charge of it is the only assistant for sure let go.
Wildcard
Sat Apr 19 2025 12:27 pm EST
De Hana and Vesey complaining about life time? Who gives a crap. De Jan was a throw in on a trade. Vesey, has he cried in Colorado? He has been scratched 11 times and played 9. Somehow that’s ok now? Kakko and Jones? Well Kakko was scratched because Kakkos play. Jones has been scratched because of Jones play. Liek it or not they were not playing at a high enough level. I know people will point to other players. But really that is irrelevant. Because had they been laying at a higher level they wouldn’t have been the ones pulled out.
Wildcard
Sat Apr 19 2025 12:25 pm EST
The arrangers D played defense like Housley played defense. They didn’t.
Bob
Sat Apr 19 2025 12:23 pm EST
They had to do that. Glad it is done. Now what?
Bob
Sat Apr 19 2025 12:22 pm EST
Welp. I was wrong. I thought they would wait until after the exit interviews were done. Even if it was just for optics with the players. Like the players wanted change then it happens sort of thing…and the weekend is weird…
Wildcard
Sat Apr 19 2025 12:12 pm EST
took a day longer than expected...
sjw
Sat Apr 19 2025 12:06 pm EST
#NYR president and general manager Chris Drury will address the media at 1:45pm today
tlats
Sat Apr 19 2025 12:05 pm EST
All per Mollie Walker - #NYR assistants Dan Muse and Michael Peca will have the opportunity to interview to be on the next coaching staff, per source.
tlats
Sat Apr 19 2025 12:03 pm EST
#NYR announce that head coach Peter Laviolette and associate head coach Phil Housley have been relieved of their duties.
tlats
Sat Apr 19 2025 11:38 am EST
Biys when i said marginal i meant they were stars or the core of the team. They were all interchangeable. Still though not the biggest of fans of either kakko or jones. Kakko isnt. Unfortunately he was the second overall pick. I do t see him living up to that level. Jones, the way the game is played i dont see him being a player on a Stanley Cup team
Kis
Sat Apr 19 2025 8:58 am EST
re: LAVIOLETTE - Again, I couldn't begin to fathom the amount of poor judgement it would take to ride this guy for a third season. It would take GM'ing on a MILBURIAN level to keep the guy. In the incredibly rare instance where someone in the Rangers' front office wanted to hang on to whatever it is he was preaching back there...I have ZERO clue how anyone could reach THAT conclusion, then fire his entire staff and keep the fat fucker...but this guy ran this team off a pier in a manner that I really haven't seen in a long time. Maybe ever. It's really hard to out-do Dave QUINN and Gerard GALLANT, but LAVIOLETTE managed it. He played to the absolute WORST elements of this team and got the positively LEAST out of every player on the roster, BAR NONE. Even the 'remarkable' season CUYLLE had is going to really look like an opportunity missed when this kid plays under a real coach...The guy had a turn-key roster at the start of 2023 and managed to plunge it head-first into the ground in a little over a year...And folks? The signs of his lunacy didn't just magically appear this season...it took him a solid 14-15 months to beat his roster into submission...to play this horrible system and to marginalize every single young talent the team had...the funny thing is, the way the Rangers lost last year in the Conference Finals...it was a perfect sneak-peak into the coaching decisions LAVIOLETTE was going to roll out in 2024-25...like watching a train crash in slow motion...you can come out of that season saying the whole team needs to be changed...that remains to be seen...what you CANNOT come out of that season saying is that Peter LAVIOLETTE holds no blame in this mess. He holds a TON of it. The guy should've been fired in November. The fact he's still coach right now suggests to me that DRURY is waiting for either TOCHETT or SULLY to get axed...
tdchi
Sat Apr 19 2025 8:54 am EST
TD. You forgot about Jones. He, too spoke out about his endless pressboxing. 4 frustrated players - KK Vesey de Haan and Jones. Unprecedented AFAIC. What a mess. Excellent work Dreary you secretive miserable phuck.
rf4l
Sat Apr 19 2025 8:43 am EST
KIS - Hold on now: None of those players were marginal by any stretch of the imagination. ALL of them could've filled important roles on the team, had there been a coach smart enough to recognize their utility...guys bitching about ice time?! That's some serious revisionist history there dude...KAKKO kept his mouth shut ALL. SEASON. LONG. That was until Fatty McFuckface decided to make him a token scratch to shake up a sleep-walking team that had quit on him and his system. THAT was the only time HE opened his mouth. And then he was gone...and VESEY. My lord. THAT poor fucker came in here and was FANTASTIC at what he did for this team. Filled his role PERFECTLY while other guys in the top nine did not...And then he was scratched for a dozen or so games straight so REMPE could learn on the fly and SMITTY Jr. could fly around doing nothing and Z, PANARIN and TROCHECK could get 24 minutes a friggin' night. Again...NEITHER player did a fucking thing to earn a scratch...and yet that's what LAVIOLETTE dished out...and deHAAN...I'm not gonna sit back and say it's right to jump on a team and complain about ice...but the dude had a rock-solid argument...The team is 2-0-1 with him on the ice...all of his metrics were good compared to his fellow defensemen...and yet VAAK and SOUCY just kept getting the minutes...the fact that the Rangers went out and TRADED FOR SOUCY with the guys they had in the system was just ludicrous...As for TROUBA? He never complained at all. Did what was asked, even came back after all the stupid reports over the summer and seemed to have a good attitude the first 10-12 games...until the losing started and DRURY put out the 'open for business' letter...even then, he didn't complain. Of course, his playing wasn't the same...and could you blame the guy? After his fucking wife gets dragged through the mud by idiot Ranger fans(and one idiot columnist)? After he lays his body on the line for the team for years? All he gets is another report in the Post about him being a dead man walking in New York? Yeah. And even then, when the guy was finally traded, he could barely hold back tears in his exit interview...So yeah, if we're going to make out the players who spoke out...and in one case, most decidedly didn't...let's take a closer look at the circumstances behind it...There were two. One was the fat asshole behind the bench and the other was the idiot GM who can't seem to buy a clue these days.
tdchi
Sat Apr 19 2025 8:27 am EST
KIS - Hold on
tdchi
Sat Apr 19 2025 12:44 am EST
From President's Cup to Laughing Stock with almost every player getting worse..How can it still hang in the balance? Only in Rangerland
Hospo
Sat Apr 19 2025 12:19 am EST
There’s smoke that hopefully leads to fired …. https://nypost.com/2025/04/19/sports/peter-laviolettes-rangers-future-still-hangs-in-the-balance/
Stevielegs
Fri Apr 18 2025 10:08 pm EST
.......
rf4l
Fri Apr 18 2025 8:09 pm EST
Bob yep Drury won't get canned unfortunately
vcp1994
Fri Apr 18 2025 6:19 pm EST
Make no mistake……Dolan will not be happy with the huge fallback this year no playoff revenue and that Gorton got the playoff spot the Rangers should have had. Is that enough to whack Drury? I doubt it. I do think the coach gets sacked though.
Bob
Fri Apr 18 2025 5:58 pm EST
I wonder if a team like Utah would be interested in trading for both Kreider and Zibanejad and if the two of them would be interested in going somewhere like Utah together. Utah has demonstrated their willingness to be aggressive. Despite a down season, Kreider scored his 20 goals and Zib racked up 62 points. Both can still contribute. I think they'd add a veteran presence to a young team and would probably be reinvigorated with a fresh start.
evets1980
Fri Apr 18 2025 5:37 pm EST
let us all hold virtual hands , close our eyes at 8 pm EST and pray together for Drury to get fired. The power of the wall !!!!
vcp1994
Fri Apr 18 2025 5:09 pm EST
Job one is a new coach unless Dolan answers my prayers and DD gets canned. What Definitely Dumb is waiting for with firing lardass is beyond comprehension. If he doesn’t know him by now he will never ever know him. NEXT
Stevielegs
Fri Apr 18 2025 4:11 pm EST
PJ - Yep, Easy Peazy!!!...seriously, one looks at this team as is and how it likes to play and how it played when it mattered and it's BAD...aging vets(32-35 is aging in the NHL!)with little leadership, not enough size, grit and attitude up top, a horrible, 2nd tier, overly redundant defensive roster (and a top D-man that needs to rededicate himslf IMWO) and an underwhelming 1 or 2 of 4 new youngsters for next year(OTH, Berrard, Perrault, Parssinen)..And IMWO they also have to worry big time about the impact on TEAM and leadership/chemistry of having a new Version of 32 Year old Bromancers being the leaders....Anyways, whoever the GM is, Drury or a new guy, has a herculean task to keep the team away from bottom 5-10....it might be easier and lead to a CUp sooner if it was all blown up
Hospo
Fri Apr 18 2025 3:47 pm EST
Had to laugh last night when Joe and Sam were talking about Laviolette saying this year was a learning experience for K. Miller and Miller turns the puck over as they were speaking…Z and K did play well in a meaningless game with little physicality….What does that say for someone like Laffy who did nothing in the game?….K will be gone and maybe a slight chance they can move Z….Then the Rangers problems are solved….LOL
PJ
Fri Apr 18 2025 3:01 pm EST
KIS – You can’t pick out individual players and transactions, it’s all about the total sum of all moves, non-moves and actions and the type of team/chemistry/mind set/style of play it lead to…..To me, they all share in this clusterfuck rotten decay of a season...Almost every move Drury made did nothing to improve the team and in fact (well, IMWO) the way he handled things and provided zero improvement lead to the close to unprecedented dive of the team and the organization...still, 90 % of the players either devolved or came nowhere close to their norm/mean...They weren't handled, deployed or utilized correctly and that's on Lard Ass….and then the players, especially Kreider, ZBAD, TRO, Panarina and Fox, who all did nothing to rise above or exert leaderships and instead just went through the motions instead of saying, fuck this jack off GM and coach, I'm doing my best...And too many of the kids/ role players (not Cuylle, Remps, Carrick) got caught as collateral damage....In any other business, the GM, coach and even some of the core of this utter, complete failure would be out on the streets...We shall see soon enough
Hospo
Fri Apr 18 2025 2:22 pm EST
Kis . Goodrow and trouba are not marginal players . Both are bonafide NHLERS. Including vescey.
vcp1994
Fri Apr 18 2025 1:17 pm EST
WILD... You have no idea of that. It's the same as me saying, Drury doesn't care about the players opinions, but he wants people to think he does. That's why he pretend to take it into consideration, before he makes a firing decision. It's all about putting on airs for him. It's opinion without facts.
Rhet0ric
Fri Apr 18 2025 12:04 pm EST
wildcard i hope your right . torts would be awful . please say it aint so !
vcp1994
Fri Apr 18 2025 11:59 am EST
vcp: I think they are just grabbing up on the snarky X feeds today.
Wildcard
Fri Apr 18 2025 11:56 am EST
NHL radio rumor torts coming back. god i hope NOT!!!!!
vcp1994
Fri Apr 18 2025 11:17 am EST
Rhet: If Drury is anything he is methodical, and he trusts the players. Like it or not that's who he is. I think he will wait until he talks to players over the next few days and on breakup day, with the outgoing meetings on Monday, and then make his decision. I get the points you are making PR wise. But I think that the Rangers news cycle will follow the sports norm, nothing will last more than 48 hours in the offseason.
Wildcard
Fri Apr 18 2025 10:22 am EST
Putting my publicist/PR hat back on: I goofed a bit. You generally release bad news on a Thursday/Friday before the weekend so the news cycle on that story is usually over come Monday(usually) and then you release good news on Monday to change the news cycle(make the good news talked about longer). So, if the NYR's are smart, they'll fire Laviolette on Monday(not Friday). This is why people have difficulty remembering things in the long term:) I guess we'll see.
Rhet0ric
Fri Apr 18 2025 10:13 am EST
Although drury and laviolette both handled things porrly this year, the team had many marginal players whine this year. Goodrow truba Vesey deHaan and even Kakko are all marginal players. All except teouba complained about playing time. As much as kreider sucked this year, we never heard publicly about hos playing time. Goong 4th line and booted off the PP. Guy still scored 20+ goals. O think mamy of the players meed to look at themselves and stop looking for am excuse as to why they sucked this year
Kis
Fri Apr 18 2025 9:08 am EST
https://nypost.com/2025/04/18/sports/rangers-lost-season-full-of-controversies-is-finally-over/
Stevielegs
Fri Apr 18 2025 9:04 am EST
Laviolette's termination seems like it is a forgone conclusion. These last few days, it does seem like Drury getting fired is starting to get a little steam. I don't have a link or evidence other than listening to podcasts and the Rangers making the news for the wrong reasons.
DREW
Fri Apr 18 2025 9:01 am EST
“Those are probably questions for another day. It’s still game day,” Laviolette said Thursday morning before the Rangers beat the Lightning, 4-0, at Madison Square Garden. “We got one game left here. We got to focus on that. That’s not going to change our place in life, the game tonight. But you’re going to leave the rink here feeling like you worked hard, like you competed and you did the right things, and you end on a win in front of our fans in our building. Or, you don’t check those boxes. Right now, we’re just focused on that.”…. Now get a box and empty your office to get escorted out of the building. Please leave your keys the rest you leave behind will be burned in a sacrificial bonfire , like your rejected from Lindsey Nelson clothing collection and your Omar the tent maker suits. Don’t forget to smile for the cameras, and kiss DD’s ring steak .
Stevielegs
Fri Apr 18 2025 8:47 am EST
Teams fighting...weird I hate tennis
vcp1994
Fri Apr 18 2025 8:46 am EST
Punchrolfe it's one thing to miss the playoffs just barely when your tennis fighting every night. This team did the opposite. Let us all pray Drury is gone but he'll who prays anyway it doesn't work.
vcp1994
Fri Apr 18 2025 8:43 am EST
Tdchi TB barely played. They just skated while asleep they rightfully didn't care in a meaningless game. I would not get excited about that game . This team is awful
vcp1994
Fri Apr 18 2025 8:18 am EST
...win a few, lose few more. Suck for large stretches...pull a rando win out of their asses. Now, I don't necessarily think the Rangers were/are a flawless team, but they weren't nearly as bad as their deployment...what happens next? Well, again...there's the very clear move that needs to be made, and that's for every coach behind the bench this year to get fired.
tdchi
Fri Apr 18 2025 8:14 am EST
Well, things with the Rangers more or less found the pattern I expected them to find when I gave up on them in early December. The main problem was the rigid fat fuck behind the bench. What limited control he had over the team sailed out the window and it was BEYOND evident that a coaching change...or a full team change...was needed. But DRURY was sold by that first-year conference final appearance, and sat on his hands. Had they fired that clown instead on the day they traded TROUBA? This team would've made the playoffs. Nevertheless, they did what I expected them to do...win
tdchi
Fri Apr 18 2025 8:11 am EST
Well, things with the Rangers more or less found the pattern I expected them to find when I gave up on them in early December. The main problem was the rigid fat fuck behind the bench. What limited control he had over the team sailed out the window and it was BEYOND evident th
tdchi
Fri Apr 18 2025 7:54 am EST
Shonuff. There are 2 eastern Canadian teams in the POs and 2 western teams so an all Canadian final could happen. Buttplug would HATE that.
rf4l
Fri Apr 18 2025 7:10 am EST
Conference final that is so either way one of those are in the final and win . Would be cool to see selanne anyway . Next to Jagr he was my second favorite player in the 90’s Not a Ranger .
shonuff
Fri Apr 18 2025 7:06 am EST
I will pull for Edmonton Vs the Jets . Fuck Bettman. Also McDavid leaves if he wins and it’s Messier #2 . Kidding . Glad the season is over time to fix the camper no poolside hockey this year . Devils are done in 6
shonuff
Thu Apr 17 2025 11:44 pm EST
Dolan is extremely unhappy over no playoff gate, and as for Drury being his boy-o, they get fired too. Just sayin.' Drury is not sleeping well for very good reason, I would wager.
punchrolfe