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Dd drury can now say optimum was bad luck for him..,.who needs defense…https://youtu.be/8OuUJ340luM?si=7ox7yydWcc9gCJ9b

Skin on skin thinks a lot of bullshit….a coach for no more seasons and plenty of reasons….https://youtu.be/dfXIR7dgzeY?si=8XmHMoxBJoMyam9H

Crispy creamer…. List in the sauce….https://youtu.be/IhDco7PYO_8?si=mrZ07Ta9YXpHgVri

HOSPO: I dont think this is the team that Lardass wants at all. You look at his teams in Nashville, DC, Carolina? These were teams filled with big boys and hard hitting. Lard is coaching what he has. But I dont think for one minute that if you were to talk offline with Laviolette after his debacle in NY ends he'd tell you the same thing.

If DD was doing his job he would be on offense pursuing guys like pettersonn and mariner et al . Instead he just wants to get rid of weeds and have nothing to replace the empty space. He should go back to playing with his LEGO toys and flipping some pizzas. The game has passed him by too. His claim to gm fame is signing zbad and Shazam.

Sos you take away the goalie saving your asses , you lose. Lardass has no defensive system. The guy is burnt out and ready for retirement. He needs more speed. He might be smoking something else. But him and his dumb boss want to blame the players for everything. That’s the culture DD drury has delivered. Tinker tailor soldier sailor is the brain rust in the land of make believe.

Yep...The soap opera in Vancover is giving the Ranger Soap opera a run for it's money..So many reports from former players and Media guys (Bizz-Douche, Kypreos, Brad Richardson) regarding the friction/hate between JT and Petterson with the Universal opinion being that one has to go to save the team....It does fit in nicely with all the Ranger and Leaf rumors, that's for sure....Two things, in Vancouver's game tonight, Petterson was a scratch (not sue if healthy or not) and Demko got hurt ..again..

In regard to KYPREOS: He is both correct and incorrect. The ZBAD rumors are not new, they're at least two weeks old. Allegedly, Z would be willing to go to TO but not Vancouver; Also that MILLER would be willing to go to the NYR but not to TO. The Nucks are also considering moving PETTERSON instead. He is in his final year before his full NMC kicks in while JT currently has a full NMC (if you didn't know, Miller and Petterson don't like each other. VAN prefers for the two players to work it out instead, but it isn't going so well). You might be able to work out a 3-way with TO but that still remains to be seen. Stay tuned, I guess.

You take away the spectre of Trouba's big hits and intimidation nd the Rangers defense is hard to care about or watch..They need a bruiser big time but they don't grow on trees...Ditto with 2 physical forwards to play top 9...Smith is very, very hard to root for......But, the firsst step is to play consistent team hockey with or without Laviolette..tonight ws one step forward..will the Caps game be nother..or, as Bruce said, two steps back???

Our defense still rots...keep Schneider and miller (yeah I know I am crazy) he has size and skates like the wind... Borgen unsure ....the rest can go.... bring up mancini when ready... Trade jones to Winnipeg with pionk...yep trade Fox toooo....

Yep I take miller over ZBAD twice on Sundays and 7 days per week. I find it hard to believe he would want to come back here from Vancouver it's a beautiful place compared to this shithole....better team better owners better coach.....I don't believe it for a minute...kyper I have no idea ...

As The WHO said, I won’t be fooled again. This team was very lucky to win this game against a horrid Boston offense. Caps will destroy us even with Wuickie standing in his head again

A win is a win…Not perfect but decent effort by most….Quick was terrific and he will have to be going forward…Panarin did look lost tonight although he set Laff up a couple of times that resulted in good chances…Miller is still an adventure and I don’t believe we have a line that you can count on defensively…Maybe Carrick line but even they have issues…Chytil not near as visible in this game….On to Washington…Won’t be easy…

Baby steps, but that sure was ugly at times. Watched on NESN instead of MSG, which was a nice change. Boston crew was regularly commenting on how bad our d-men are, especially defending the rush. Entry was described as "way too easy." I honestly don't see how Urho is playing over Jones. At least platoon them. Can't remember the Boston crew even acknowledging that Urho is a former B's 1st round pick.

Kypreos was saying earlier today that only location JT Miller is willing to waive his NMC is to the Rangers and ZShit could be heading the other way, plus some additional sweetener’s. Let’s hope it is true. Will gladly take Miller over UP40.

Boston’s weakness is very similar to the Rangers. Entire offense is going through a playmaking winger, and when Pasta is going, Bruins are a very strong force to deal with. Same with the Rangers and Panerin. This season, Pasta is human, just like Panerin. Not a bad game by the Rangers. Quick was amazing. Some wonderful saves!! Craps will be physically stronger then Bruins, and they can score. Tough game.

Bad News is Laviolette will receive 2 year extension after the game! Love the win for the now but this team is a thousand miles away from having a team constructed to compete in the POs....if that is still a goal..

Let's get to 500 then lose again.... Drury has to go, lavy has to go core has to go

New year, new results! Other than Quick, it wasn't pretty...but I'll take it. And anyone who always wished we took Wahlstrom can let that one go....that kid was pretty terrible tonight.

No Panain, Smith or Miller on the ice at the end. Loved the D there by Z, Kreider, TRO, Fox and Lindgren as the clock ran down. Far from perfect, but sometimes the smallest things can be the most important for a team to end a slump. Z and Kreider really needed a game like this. Hopefully, we can build on this.

Team is a disaster in their own end... JFC31-- 100% .. did u catch Fox's stupid pass just as you described on the 6on 5.. further to our discussion earlier .. nobody can tell me that any of Jones, Mancini, Scanlin or Robertson is not better than Vaakanainen or Borgen ....those 2 are horrid

A sure fire Hall of Famer Quick showed them how a professional handles themselves. Kreider playing aloof and soft, Miller has no hockey sense and Panarin was drunk. Bruins are bad. The Vakanien (sp) guy looks like he never played hockey before.

RF4L - Hurt? Not trying? WHo knows? either way, he sucked,,Like in a horroor movie (The Hidden?), maybe the disease or entity jumped from ZBAD to him???

Rangers with a bit more detail to defense to help win the ugly, sloppy game..But, a baby step...Helped that we finally got a goalie to win a game!

Seems like every time Panarin struggles he's hurt. Bet he isn't. Just being part of the vet leadership group.

NYR's doing a nice job of not letting them the opportunity to pull the goalie. So far.

Not a pretty game but Rangers actually doing a decent job of mucking things up in the neutral zone and in getting back..

way off..a lot of fly bys nd staying away for Panarina...one of the worst Rangers on the ice....so far

Something is way off with Panarin…and so, of course, the whole line is off! Is he still battling an injury?

I am so tired of the Rangers trying to MAKE PLAYS at their own blue line instead of safely getting it over the line! They could just chip,so many lucks out of the zone but the stop, spin and throw it towards the middle, trying to make a pass IN THEIR OWN ZONE! ENOUGH! Just get it the fuck OUT!

sjw - The Rangers also seem to employ the Beehive defense where, like all the six year olds i coached, they all flock to the same player or puck

Rangers really like puck watching and all 5 guys drifting to the strong side .. leaving the weak side wide f'in open .. cue Quickie save .. They are creating chances but more often than not fumble it away without a shot .. Bruins have been a little sloppy themselves .. Thier cast describes the Rangers D zone play as "indifferent"

Good work by the 4th and 3rd line..I think somebiody had a talk with Edstrom a few games ago..Finally playing like a guy his size should

RF4L - Panarina has sucked with the rest of the team..1G in his last 10 games..His go to being long range shots

SMITH, the vet, a rookis mistake being asleep on coverage...just get a 7th rounder back for him

Sick of watching Rangers players reach with their stick rather than take the stride or 2 and close off.. Edstrom weakass play just caused that mess..

And holy shit, the humn Buzzsw with a goal in addition to ZBAD??..JFC - we'll have to grfee to disagree big time on the coach thing

Wow...guess I gotta go back to missing the 1st period again like last year!!...Maybe I was right about this being a player's game?

Well at least Berard is playin the right way ....a fortunate period rather than great ... decision making remains a mystery both in their own end and on attack .. several times they created opportunities for the Bruins to counter with speed and numbers with bad decisions

BGet Laf off that line. He's deferring to his linemates way too mych. Another pass off when he should gave shot.

Someone needs to tell this guy that he can transfer his VCR video to a MP4 video file. Just saying. It's 2025.

Hopefully that starts a positive string for the team. How many times would we see something like that just take an unlucky bounce off the post for us.

The life has been sucked out of almost everyone. I saw Cuylle give the puck away twice in a single shift.

Hard to listen to visiting teams casts.. accurately calling out the disorganized soft play in their own end...

SJW - good post about starting to look at this team & season as adversity possibly leading to long-term opportunities! Or we can just keep talking about what sucks and who sucks. I’d like to get excited by some good trades that lead to a NEW CORE & NEW APPROACH and replenishing the draft picks. Or again, we can predict how any trades Drury makes are gonna suck and how he’s not capable of doing anything worthwhile and how we’re doomed…

Hospo - gotta disagree about young coaches shying away from the Rangers. Its an Original Six team, very prestigious and you’re underestimating AMBITION…

E - Well, when you get rid of guys like TRoubs (yeah, i know the soap opera fucked him up too) and Goodrow, it's hard for the team character not to take a hit...But this is the team that Dipshit and Lard Ass wanted..Even after seeing what the Panthers did to them and the Changes the Caps and Devils were making..Incompetence run amok...

NYStranger - Ouch...I thought Kevin Stevens would be the last time we used the words "colostomy bag"...that alone shows how bad it is!

I place odds at about 70% that Queneville will be the first call the Rangers make if they’re planning on a coaching change. I am not in love with Laviolette in fact I hate his scheming. But when he goes Laviolette will be fired because his teams character sucks.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nhl/former-devils-defender-placed-on-waivers/ar-AA1wS0lM?ocid=msedgntp&pc=HCTS&cvid=ae59fa458b634c859d880ec1f280f6d3&ei=27

Rhet yeah it is pretty bad when I Get thoughts like hoping Sather straps on his colostomy bag and flys in to take over!! Yikes

Interesting trade rumor out there: Toronto allegedly has interest in ZBAD. The Leafs are looking to add a center and are willing to add payroll (Matthews looks to be going to LTIR.... rumor is that Z would also be willing to waive for TO)... Leafs are also rumored to be interested in moving Marner for Petterson but not interested in doing a one-for-one. Maybe we could get involved where we get Petterson, TO gets Z and Vancouver gets Marner with the Leafs getting some other pieces? ....Then I remember that Drury is our GM so there's little to no chance of that happening.

Drury is the common denominator here. Just think that giving Buch away was one of his better moves. Uugh

TDCHI - You are torturing yourself! :)..If Laviolette goes, the only in-season replacement will likely be somebody from the Old Boys club..or..somebody already on staff (Peca?)..I think the latter because the former will want a multi year contract..which is bad for both sides..A young coach wouldn't want to touch this stench until big changes are made in the off season...Then again Dipshit, at least as of now, is the guy to be making the changes

Damn TD, I’m right there with you that one. Leonard is one damn good looking player! I would trade just about anything to get him in the Rangers. I’d do Fox straight up for him but don’t think Caps would right now. If you could get Hutson it’s a No brainer. Drury doesn’t have the skillset to pull that off

Td I would do that deal in a NY second. I might do it straight up for Len I have soured a lot on Fox.

Continuing my WJC peppering of posts...The Dave CARLE would be a fantastic choice as a coach. I don't give a shit that he has no NHL experience. Crazy to watch his team of mismatched-but-talented players demonstrate more structure...and I mean A LOT more structurethan anything the Rangers have played thus far this season.

Swiss have a kid playing at 15: Jonah NEUENSCHWANDER. Dude is already 6'3, 180 pounds. Draft eligible: 2027. Always amazed when they get kids playing in this tourney THAT young. MICHKOV is the last one I remember seeing.

Adam FOX the the Caps for Ryan LEONARD, Cole HUTSON and Rasmus SANDIN...who'd do it? I think I would...

And man, what the hell can we trade to Washington for Ryan LEONARD?! Think I'd move just about anyone not named FOX, CUYLLE or LAFRENIERE...

Switzerland just getting rag-dolled. I mean, not a surprise...not even sure how this team got into the medal round...but still. Real question is whether the U.S. can step up for a well-rested top opponent. They got a tired Canada and a rested Finland. The beat the former and couldn't do much against the latter.

RF4L - Bigtime. And I cringe at the thought of bringing in Bruce fucking BOUDREAU if LAVIOLETTE leaves...or QUENVILLE...or any of these recycled pukes. This team needs a young coach that is outside of the Good Ol' Boys network.

Hospo - Hahaha...well, I think we'd be better off throwing a tree stump out there to play defense...HARPUR...that dude is SLOOOOOOW.

I can't even stress this enough: If the Rangers can get Gabe PERREAULT and James HAGENS on a line? MAN. THAT would be worth all the shit we've endured thus far this season. Sooo...BANG ON LAVIOLETTE! Keep up the good work!

Man, Gabe PERREAULT is a smooth passer. I'm always mystified when a kid like this isn't converted into a center. In his case, it's probably because they already were loaded in the middle throughout the USNTDP...but still...this kid is just magnificent in terms of threading the needle.

I still think that, screw Lard Ass and DIp Shit, that tonight is a player's game to show up and win...Well, unless Fat bastard takes the shot away by minimizing the latest version of the kid line and the 4th line....I do not wan to see Trent FUckin fredercik and Kastekli scoring goals to win it for the Bruins as ZBAD gets 20 minutes of floating

TDCHI - You know we agree on the main point about BOGRE and The Finn but Screw flotsum and jetsum like Robertson and Scanlin! Ben Harpur should be up playing the Trouba role!!!!!!!!.......OK, I kid....a little....But more seriously, how quickly BOOM BOOM was made an afterthought

Well if we lose maybe Drury gets canned end of season.....if we climb out somewhat maybe players have more value... Unsure tank or ....still say core and lavy and Drury need to go

Trade jones already it's not right he isn't fast or big enough for playoffs... regular set depends on the opponent.

sjw - The thing that is just so flummoxing in every way, shape and form is that the Rangers actually have THREE defensemen now that I would loop into the mix before BORGEN and VAAKANAINEN...and LONG before Chad fucking RUHWEDEL...JONES, obviously...but Brandon SCANLIN is another who has more than earned a call-up and a serious look. He's more than capable of playing 14-15 minutes at the NHL level, and, I believe, he's not eligible for waivers...And then ROBERTSON of course. He's a little different, because he struggled with injuries and just struggled...but he's been solid in Hartford this year and again...when you pull JONES out of the mix for competition and put him up against VAAKANAINEN? Welp...there's no reason why he or SCANLIN shouldn't be cycling in. VAAK is just not that good. He was a bust when the Bruins traded him...at any rate, I think it's kind of ridiculous that these shitheel vets are cycling into the lineup at this point, when it's pretty clear this season is a wash and this franchise really needs to start planning for the next.

TD. Agreed but ultimately this crap lats at the feet of Dreary. He's in charge. Your coach sits a player endlessly you move that player out before he's got no value. Or you find another coach. Dreary sucks HUGE.

The crazy part about KAKKO and to a lesser extent, JONES, is that BOTH players could've been making a lot more money now had they not been so excessively patient with management. KAKKO...man...If I was his agent, I would've pretty much told the Rangers my client wants a prominent role with the team or we're not going to resign/will sign an offer sheet. I wouldn't doubt for a second that there were teams that approached him during one of his past two contracts...And JONES? I mean, again. This guy would be in the top six of just about any team in the league. While certainly defenders have been getting quicker and shiftier, this kid moves so quickly and has such underrated hands...He would be an easy 30-40 point player with regular minutes and on a team that values skill. I mean, seriously? If I were him, I would've been leaving New York after being sat for 50 out of 82 games last season, and hardly getting a sniff the season before that. Giving this kid the HAJEK treatment last year, and now again this year? Total bullshit. Very lowbrow move by LAVIOLETTE. If you don't like the kid...which he obviously doesn't...tell the GM and have him traded. This dithering is nonsense, but it seems to be par for the course with DRURY.

You guys need to be careful by comparing them to Ranger management - or else Frick and Frack and the others will sue you for defamation of character

TDCHI - No arguement on that at all..Laviolette's handling of players has been abysmaal...But who traded for the Finn while pissing away our toughest D-man, Who pissed away KAKKAO and turned the 2nd overall into something named BOGREN? Who traded for RUWHEDEL at last year's deadline and who doubled down by signing him this off-season?......Again, totally agree with you on Laviolette, but these are the guys Dipshit is taking away and the guys he is giving Laviolette to play...Laurel and Hardy...Abbot and Costello...Kramden and Norton..Jay and Silent Bob.....Take your pick

Limbo if I was in Jones’ position and thought making public comments would mean a quick ticket out of there I would try it too. Drury has made his own bed in that with Kakko. Can’t blame Jones for looking out for his career. Just more proof of this horrible culture issue.

The Jones issue extends to Robertson iMO ... never played a single game with the Rangers.. this year he's a plus player on a mediocre team .. but the culture is trust marginal NHL players rather than give one of your own a look that culture needs to change... I would assume othmann is OK after it was reported he crashed into the boards and left the ice after scoring.. his name came up in the presser and no mention of him being re-injured...

DD drury will only fire lardass if he senses that Dolan is not happy. Then he will pull out all the stops cya gear.

With Jones, other than the regular shit way this crap org is run…if you look at his stats and his play, it has not been great lately. His first month was great. The last month, like pretty much everyone, not so much. Hasn’t had a point in over a month. That is not a good sign for him. I agree with him on one thing - he needs to play. Either here or the AHL or somewhere else. I suspect he just punched his ticket out of here.

Here's the thing: VAAKANAINEN and BORGEN are both 6/7th defenders on 90 percent of the teams in the NHL. These are NOT guys you have in your lineup full time unless there are no other options. Neither one has a future in New York. BORGEN, at this pace, will be traded at the deadline...and I'm still wondering why VAAKANAINEN isn't on the waiver wire. Without a trade, he would've been waived by the Ducks almost certainly...And just think about this from JONES' perspective. Dude has been nothing but a good soldier for the Rangers. Did everything they asked of him. Was fantastic last winter/spring and waited patiently on the sidelines. Had a GREAT camp, and solidly earned his spot...only to be displaced by two guys who wouldn't even make most rosters in the NHL. The craziest part was when LAVIOLETTE was putting BORGEN on his off-hand just to get the only defender WORSE than him and VAAK...Chad RUHWEDEL...into the lineup.

TDCHI - Many have been saying it...While canning Fat Country isn't the only logical move from an organizational standpoint, it is the easiest move and the best 1st step

Pins and needles, needles and pins..must be positive! tonight we get a full effort and win!

Hospo - Like I keep saying, LAVIOLETTE is the one easy factor this team could change to turn around its fortunes. May not work, but keeping him where he is positively WON'T work. There is no way he is turning this team around. Zero percent chance. Never gonna happen. They've regressed so badly since the start of the season and he's been such a total sinkhole on the bench...DRURY tried the stupid way, which was to trade players...and that has only made things worse...the team is less talented AND still lacking direction...so if they want to improve, the only logical move is to can LAVIOLETTE. He's more than earned it.

or Dipshit wants the Finn to play and they are afraid to sit another fragile puppy like Miller (similar to ZBAD)!....A sitting of JONES doesn't bother me by itself.....but, given everything else and the alternatives, continually sitting him does ....moreso, it's just his comments further illuminating the clusterfuck of the organization and Fat Bastartd's ineptitude in handling and fostering a TEAM....

I can only discern 2 reasons for the Jones (mis)treatment: 1) Lardiolette is an idiot 2) Lardiolette wants to be fired.

topovski - That's basically it. The dude has been on the ice for more goals for than not. And while +/- certainly is a loaded stat, it's no real mystery why JONES is on the plus side of things...even if you accept that he's not that good defensively...I for one do NOT believe this...then you have to look at how he impacts the offense. Either way, I just don't know how anyone can go through a list of the Rangers' top six defensemen and not include JONES among them. I get scratching him situationally when you need more muscle...or at least I did...but there's no excuse for scratching him in four straight, especially after a three-game losing stretch.

All my negativity and thoughts of wanting to lose until Laviolette and Drury are gone aside, tonight I think is the last AND best chance at home against the Bruins for the players to say Fuck Fat Bastard and Fuck Dipshit and just take everything into their own hands and play balls to the wall for 60 minutes..(Ok, maybe 30-40!)...Call me bonkers, but I think they might do it...One can hope, right?

RF4L - My soup DOESN'T suck, actually. Gotten a lot of compliments on it. Some real good ones in my repertoire. Raves over my Buffalo Chicken Soup.

I think it's long past time to sign Phil KESSEL. Let's just fucking do it, OK? Would make the season worth it.

wild, what jones are you talking about? not zach because despite all your rant about his play he is +2. How is that possible?

adversity brings opportunity... step back, realize this season is toast but with the right mind set could be back in the mix next year... get a top 10 maybe 5 pick in the draft, sell select assets at the deadline for additional picks and maybe a young centre or 2.. with freed up cap, target select UFA's to improve the physicality and grit at forward and 1 d.. it is possible.. and change coaching philosophy/culture to merit not entitlements.... whether Drury is smart/skilled to see it and then do it is another discussion..

If drury was a real gm he’d be talking with Toronto and Vancouver et al instead of writing a crayon memo of stupidity and disrespect. And if Dolan really thought that was a good idea then Nyr fans are screwed .

For those who want to read what Jones said to the media yesterday:athlonsports.com/nhl/new-york-rangers/rangers-player-blasts-healthy-scratches-rant-rotting-away-sucks#:~:text=%E2%80%9CI'm%20not%20a%2032,what%20I%20want%20to%20be

Happy, happy, joy, joy! So nice when a season I was so looking forward to turns to shit. If we’re gonna suck,then maybe at some point we can start actually rooting for this team again but in a different, maybe, more hopeful way…start looking for any positives. We all know that Drury sucks, Laviolette, sucks, this sucks, that sucks, the other things sucks….sucks, sucks, sucks. Happy, happy, joy, joy!

Boston Washington and Chicago up next - games in 4 nights. Surely they won't lose all 3???

Rf4L - your Wed Jan 1 2025 11:39 pm EST post. I’m wondering if you and I were thinking the same thing and if so, I agree. It’s certainly pushed me away.

Hopefully Dolan or someone tells him that he has a mutiny on the bounty going on. I’m not sure if there’s a system or not because the coach is not saying that they are not playing his system. It’s all moot now . The times they are a changing. Status quo is not an option anymore. The titanic has hit the iceberg and taking on water. Rearrange the chairs or do something called a rescue mission for survivors.

BOB/TDCHI - Like the other night and against TB, the Rangers put in some good effort finally but when the other team finally did press, the Rangers had zero structure, system and teamwork to fall back on..The 20 guys on ice are not a team..they don't play for each other anymore, they don't play for their coach and you can bet their candy asses that they detest Dipshit Druury after his handlings, moves and public letters...not to mention his total incompetence for the last two years..........As for JONES, I rarely call for kids for kids sake...And JOnes does have some issues which require lessons but so do other players that keep on playing and playing..I also think Jones quotes are just more evidence of how dysfunctional and fucked up this team is and has been for quite awhile and the shit rolls down hill form Drury and Laviolette ....Laviolette will go first, some players second, and either Drury or more players third..I genuinley think we are fucked no matter what

Well the forwards play zero defense and there does not appear to be any system leaving the D out to dry. None of them look good and they all did not switch from ok to suck overnight.

The end stage of total incompetence is anarchy. Today it arrived in the form of Zac Jones' comments. Added to the Optimum mess, MSG has rarely been this dysfunctional. But the Rangers lead the parade, other than the desperately unhappy employees of the corporate offices. A sign of the times, I guess. I'd keep one hand on the railing at all times.

Until drury and lardass are gone they need to do their jobs. The holidays are over and now it’s time to shit or get off the pot. Whatever they think about jones and any other player, it’s time to act instead of thinking and sending out a memo. I’m just hoping that Dolan is doing his by making a decision on his gm . Whatever happens they have to get out of limbo and hell. The paying fans deserve that at least. But I’m not holding my breath. The culture seems to be a lack of respect instead of winning.

Wildcard - That's just not true. To even begin believing it is true, you'd have to also think he's getting very lucky out there and/or his defensive partners are bailing him...neither of which is true. And like I said below, I really have no fucking clue how your judging one guy's defensive positioning when the whole goddamn D corps is fucked. They're all a mess. To sit back and say JONES is the biggest mess and deserves to be pressboxed is laughable.

Hospo - re: TROUBA looking better...This is the thing fans just tend to ignore, which is the value of having and, more importantly, PLAYING a system. The Rangers seemed somewhat structured last season...but this year? They're a hot mess. And the defense is the the most glaring example of it all. They're just CONSTANTLY missing coverage. Part of it is the forwards getting too deep and letting up odd-man rushes...but more of it is how they're playing IN the defensive zone. You could drop any defenseman in the league into whatever LAVIOLETTE is rolling out and he'll struggle. Christ, Will BORGEN even looked better when he was with Seattle. When we got him, I was thinking OK, well, maybe we get a good, hard-hitting defensive defenseman...but man, he's out of position on almost every goal against...So Dipshit DRURY will continue to move guys and they'll look better wherever they land because whatever he's drawn up for a game plan in New York has been an abject failure. Like the last time I saw defensive structure THIS bad was when RUFF was running our D. In fact, I think this team's structure is even worse.

Some fans got a new year gift of not having to watch this sorry excuse for a NHL team… https://nypost.com/2025/01/01/business/msg-networks-optimum-dig-in-for-long-fight-as-knicks-game-blacked-out-sources/

td: I could give two shits bout jump in his step. He is constantly moving the wrong way in the D zone, always looking the wrong way, H isn't good off the puck. How about he plays some D, fixes his brain and defends properly...then he can run his mouth.

C'mon Wildcard. Either you're being contrarian or you simply don't know what you're looking at. JONES has been the only defenseman with jump to his step. I'm not going to say he's a future Norris winner, but he's played adequate in the defensive zone, at a bare minimum. Much better than the two boneheads DRURY just acquired, and no worse than MILLER and LINDGREN. Really, FOX is the only defenseman who has played better defense...and that's marginally...Regardless...the whole D has been an abject disaster. None of them look good. So at a minimum, you're singling out JONES without acknowledging the rest of them playing like garbage. There is positively NO reason to hold him out of the lineup, save for getting Dumb and Dumber into the lineup in some sort of half-baked effort to get them going. Even if I was buying what you're saying here...and I'm not...he's more effective offensively and better defensively than at least one of those guys. If you're going through the Rangers' defensive holdings and you're ranking JONES seventh or lower...you need to really check yourself.

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Coloradomark yes I am kidding but he was fun to watch lololol....Drury is painful and we can't watch...

I just love how I watch…and see Jones make mistakes…GLARING MISTAKES shift after shift after shift and folks here cry that he is t in because of mistakes made by others who make them less often. Jones is a mess when the play slows down and cycles in the Rangers zone. He is never in the right spot, never facing the right way, his stick is always in the wrong spot. He isnt that good. If he were 5 years older no one would be crying about him. Stop using age to decide who should play.

TDCHI - I feel the same way now and it pains me big time!!..We disagree a bit on the roles of the players and the GM but Fat Bastard should have been gone long ago.....I just read the quotes from Jones and i'm just bout done... And here we are plying shit like the worthless Finn that was acquired for TROUBS (who, surprise, surprise, has been good for the Ducks)..But that's besides the point..Laviolette has been a loser for like 6-7 years in the new NHL outside of last yer, but also a year where the Rangers lost their dtructure and discipline as the year went along....He is completley out of his depth and has no clue how to manage and run a team with both kids and vets...What he and Drury did to Kakkao and his vakue was criminal....Get this fat fucktard out of here and try to right this ship somehow...then again, the coach will be an internal option and Drury will only continue burning the orgnization to the ground...God, we're fucked...Oh, Happy New Year...

Also, hate to say this, but I’m rooting for this team to lose now. I hope they don’t win another game under LAVIOLETTE. Fuck that asshole.

What I continue to find remarkable is that there are fans and a certain diaper-wearing columnist who seem so willing to ‘blame the core’ when you have an asshat like LAVIOLETTE making moves that are forcing good young players off the team. KAKKO and now JONES? What’s next? Again, you can argue that JONES has his warts…he does…but he’s also better than both of the clowns this team got in trades. It’s not even remotely debatable. He’s faster, he’s better with the puck, he’s better defensively and he offers the team a second PPQB. To relegate him to the bench for a FOURTH straight game…the three previous games being brutal losses…well, now not only do you look like you have no clue, but you’re also losing credibility. This is a terrible way to run a team…and I tell you what: the way the Rangers have treated JONES is something other players recognize.

Phil traded my favorite Ranger at the time, Glen Hanlon got a future captain, Kelly Kisio!

VCP! Ah, yes! Trader Phil, lol! I know you are kidding but worth a Look at some of these trades! http://www.nhltradetracker.com/user/trade_list_by_GM/Phil_Esposito/30 Mike Ridley and Kevin Miller for Bobby Carpenter! He was entertaining, that’s for sure! Amazing the difference in trades before the salary cap!

SJW Drury is the ultimate idiot lolol at least he is good at being so bad lololol.....let's get espo back

We are seeing the culture issues ... now with Jones, while others play game after game with glaring mistakes .. the kid sits...creates a toxic locker room ... Team has an opportunity for a reset for next year .. be smart sellers at the deadline ( teams will overpay as always), get some young assests and picks in return, clear cap space to add select FA's .. and you could be right back in the mix next year .. whether Drury is smart enough is another big question

They did play a really good game against FL though.. if not for miller blunder and a few gafs....Panthers are just a superior team.

You all know that it’s hard to crack this lineup with the streak they are on. Or at least that’s what the coach thinks. Why sit anyone in the stands when you already have seat warners filling them. I want lardass to continue with his plan and get his ass fired. Just like I want this team to keep on losing to get drury fired. Hopefully that happens or they get a chance to go to another team that has management who wants to win .

RF…Agree with Jones as well…His D numbers are pretty good…Yes he will have a bad game as did Mancini and they are then quickly yanked from the lineup…Meanwhile the rest of our D (Miller) suck night in and night out and stay in the lineup…Including the dredge we traded Kakko and Trouba for….

Jones should request a trade . The defense is so porous there’s no room for him. Wafj … drury gets guys and lardass puts them in the lineup as the kiss up he is. It’s the culture. If you don’t kiss up, you don’t fit in. Housley is doing a stellar job with the defense disaster.

Related to Alfalfa , little rascal?….https://youtu.be/o0U9OMyF2UY?si=A0Ea7XduNz8re4ry

And I don't blame him. Set to sit for the 5th time in 6 games. The Rangers development strategies are an embarrassment to say the least.

Zac Jones complained today to the press ala KK, about his endless pressboxing. He feels like he's 'rotting away'. Guess he's now going to get traded for a minimal return. What a mess. Dreary sux huge.

Coloradomark actually against FL we did get blown out. Not on the scoreboard IGOR was not human he saved the team last year.

NYStranger- like I said- I enjoyed the ride. I didn’t dwell on the shortcomings, and Why not the Rangers last year? I agree either way PJ. FL series wasn’t like we got blown out. So the Panthers the only team that was built to win the cup? We talk a lot on here about how the right way to build a team like there are so many examples. But one team wins each year and it’s not like ever team uses the same template. We all think know what it takes, but only 1 in 32 gms knows each year!

Rangers get pass the Panthers last year they win the Cup in my opinion…Series vs Panthers had 3 OT games and 2 games with one goal difference…Igor was great for sure but it wasn’t fools gold by any means…

Shesty on the IR? Humm, is Drury purposely tanking the season, after all ? #bag it for Hagens

CM I wasn’t arguing about enjoying a winning team, just that in the back of my mind all year was the ‘yeah, but they really don’t have the team to win it all’ bugging me, and dopey Drury didn’t address the issue at all getting Roslovich and Reweedle. Just has been a strangely depressing thing for me even while they bested the franchise wins record, although the current points and OT system makes that record a bit tempered as well.

HOSPO - I agree with all of that too. Except for one part - I think KK started being a good 2 wayer a few years ago. What fucking disaster. The franchise is doomed. Sometimes I wonder if my younger self’s memories, that saw them win the cup in 94 with his own eyes, was a just a figment of that young man’s imagination.

No stevie it is one lifetime, but lifetime of what? So far it has been longer than a hamster a cat or a dog.

Shesterkin on IR! https://nypost.com/2024/12/31/sports/igor-shesterkin-heading-to-ir-in-major-rangers-injury-blow/

Comark: Something like you can only win the lottery (move up, not necessarily to first overall) twice in any given 5 year period. That didn't kick in until the 2022 draft so the Rangers could tank the next 2 years and be eligible to win a lottery spot in both.

Didn’t they make a rule about winning the lottery more than one year in a row after we got Laffy? I don’t remember?

NYStranger- I understand the cup is the goal, but I enjoy watching a team that wins. If you didn’t enjoy those runs, as flawed as they were, that’s your prerogative. You can disagree, I was only saying I enjoyed watching a team that found ways to win and it made me in a better mood, that’s all. I didn’t say those teams were built to win the cup. We can disagree as to how close they were, (that was my smoke and mirrors comment) but they overachieved. I’d take watching those wins. I think there are some who favor losing and drafting high with hope for the future. I like prospects as well, but I won’t disparage anyone who would rather see everything torn down. I just think winning is more fun. The cup is hard to win and there is no one way to win it.

Happy New Year Wallsters. CM. I disagree about rooting for the fools gold of the last 3 seasons. While, yes it is much better to enjoy a good season, I always had doubts about the ability to win a Cup. Many here look at it as only 2 wins away from the finals 2 out of three years, but I saw a team that was never going to win those 6 more games needed to win it all. So yes, maybe fun in the moment, but kind of pointless if the goal is winning the Cup and not just merely being good. So, heres to better years to come no matter who is making the decisions in the organization. My 1st choice would be a different GM and coach making those moves.

All non-PO teams are in the lottery but the maximum number of spots a team can advance is 10 meaning 23rd and lower all can land the 1st overall pick. Of course the lower in the standings a team is the better the odds of moving up.

Happy New Year, folks. Ring it in with a little bit of sportsmanship from Drew FORTESCUE: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DEQAJCrPmJ5/?igsh=ZHJqaDhnejJqNDlx

Dd drury will probably mean Dumb Desperate….https://youtu.be/5mQNh0U--qQ?si=hhKjZ5LEN3oEmJbj

A reason why you don’t trade Mr k is because he is a playoff performer. Finding them is the trick…. https://nypost.com/2025/01/01/sports/four-best-rangers-moments-in-2024-and-four-questions-they-face-in-2025/

Happy, Healthy and safe New Year. Hoping the Rangers get over whatever ails them.

LIMBO - I agree on the demand and trade stuff for Kakkao but it was this year when KAKKAO was finally turning into a strong 2-way NHL forward on what was temporarily the best line in the NHL yet, even knowing the past situtaion, Laviolette (with Drury's blessing) ripped the line apart (when Chytl was healthy) and chose to kow tow to and focus on a tanking vet core at the expense of a potentally strong part of the future wbho was busting his ass....Together Dip Shit and Fatman screwed and dw=evalued the pooch..

Man, the refs in this game have definitely gotten some death threats to call a bench minor on the U.S.

RF4L - haha so true man. This game is tonic for the soul after watching all this shit Ranger hockey…and yeah, LEONARD…gonna suck having him on the Caps.

This is a fab game to watch. 1000x better than the shit the Rangers have offered up lately

I didn’t know that you could be on ir for a bruised ego and burnt asshole. Is that middle to upper or upper and lower?

Hells - I am as mad as the next guy about the KK trade and wish it never came to this. But, when a guy demands it, at some point you gotta do it. I agree with you - KK is not in the same league as MIDDLETON. One guy scored almost 1000 reg season points and 100+ in the playoffs. KK needs to score at like a PPG pace for 10 years to even get close. It’s not gonna happen.

Hospo. Agreed Znob needs to go regardless of how he might resurrect his declining career elsewhere. Why? Because he's a key member of the now pathetic leadership core. Aa we've cited what feels like a trillion times the younger set needs to take over. Mind you this miserable shit isn't abated those young guys will be ruined. Let go of your ankles Dreary you incompetent piece of Dolans sucking shit.

Happy New Year, Wallsters! Losing sure sucks. Think of all the complaining we’ve done over the last few years! Maybe some are happy that the smoke and mirrors are gone which might force changes. But I was entertained and in a much better mood when they were winning!

TDCHI - Ya know, I couldn't give a rink rat's ass if ZMOPE rebounds wherever he goes, just as long as his perimiter prancing and ES challenged play and most of his horrendous contract are elsewhere...The Rangers need a total rewiring of their attitude and the way they play the game and jettisoning ZBAD would be a HUGE step towards that....On a personal level, while he seems a good guy, i get zero enjoyment of watching him play the game...........................As for trades, shouldn't they package ZBAD and MILLER and a life time supply of....nah, i'll stop there

IGOR's injury is nothing but putting excuses in place for Dip SHit and Fat Man..to keep them around as long as possible...More rationally, wasn't the reason for getting rid of Trouba to make us tougher in front of our meal ticket..Abd lso why we got that Fearsome Finn in return to go with that Big Meanie Bogren???...Now, we are keeping tabs on OTHMAN? ANother redundnt Mini me forward.....And the trade of KAKKAO, a combined effort of a clueless coach ammd an inept GM who has swung and miss every single time since the KANE fiasco, and the insignificat return still boggles my mind

Are any of us really surprised after Igor got pulled in Tampa he was gonna pull a Rodney Dangefield in Caddyshack ? “ Oooh my arm , I think it’s broken “???

RF- you know there’s gotta be a social media type named Bourbon Sky, lol! I like Borboni cause it has an Italian flavor!

JFC- I don’t know but I’m definitely naming something Borboni Sky! Maybe a movie villain?

Othman took a penalty late in the third so the injury mustn't have been serious. If they move some people we may seem him later this year. Kakko will be a solid middle six winger in the NHL. A 40 pt. per season guy. I don't think the Ranger or him accepted that because of his draft position. It's like the Strome brothers. They had to move on to other teams before they fit into their slot in the league. It's not a Rick Middleton trade. No team is going to retire his number.

I see one of you guys picked up Quick in our fantasy - I don’t want to drop any lower in the standings (I’m in last btw)

Maybe this will be the Cam Talbot 2015 when Henrik was injured - i’m sorry fellas that’s all I’ve got

Panthers were in Shesty’s face and in his crease all night long! I hope the Rangers took receipts and will give the same treatment to Borboni Sky next time they play. He’s lucky he didn’t get a groin or leg injury when then jabbed his leg off of the post! That shit was blatant!

Comark. Yeah. Probably. Watch them tighten up without Igor there and start winning.

RF- lol, would definitely understand. Think more likely it’s the Lindgren/Bennett collision into the net. Shesterkin got hit pretty hard.

TD. To be clear he was holding the same arm meaning I'm taking it a step further. Nice goal too. https://x.com/WolfPackAHL/status/1874206980195361057/video/1

Read an interesting trade proposal: Kreider to Carolina for Jack Drury and a 2nd. Would anyone do it?

RF4L - That's hardcore bad. I mean OTHMANN does play that sort of game...but shit man...that's sounding more like bad luck than injury prone. Same fucking wrist? Goddamn. That's fucking brutal.

RF4L - I didn't see that. But it's probably because one of the other tendies is injured. Same difference. The guy on a PTO is probably a contingency plan for if one of the ECHL teams needs a backup...The dude they signed came from the 'Federal Prospects Hockey League.' I got dudes on my beer league team from that league. It's pretty much your last stop before beer league. One guy told me he was getting paid $60 a week to play...

Puckyou - KAKKO definitely requested a trade after he was scratched. He may not publicly admit it, as someone here noted the other day...but that was the deal. He said enough's enough...I want out. And DRURY did his best to accommodate as quickly as possible. I had hoped the saga would've tracked similar to Jake DEBRUSK'S saga in Boston...he requested trades on at least two occasions, only to be talked off the ledge...nevertheless, I ordinarily am not a fan of player trade requests...but in this case? KAKKO was 110 percent in the right. He was beyond patient with the Rangers...Quite frankly, if I were him, I would've asked to be traded the minute SMITTY JR. was inexplicably brought aboard at the cost of a second AND a sixth AND $3.6 million. Folks here were quick to mention what little KAKKO was doing...but when it comes to that dude? Nada...anywho...yeah, if I were to call it? This is Rick Middleton all over again. KAKKO is a very good player. His basement is the player he was for the Rangers, which is a very good third liner.

Another 1st rounder by the Rangers who's starting to look suspect but this time due to being injury prone once he turned pro.

BO scores. Slams into the boards. Goes down the tunnel holding the same wrist he broke 3 months ago.

Stevielegs dont hold your breath....we are doomed ..franchise is doomed ......but we have this disease ...there is no treatment or cure...

Puckyou why of course it will be one of the worse in rangers history. We have a mighty fine history of this not CUPS.

One last thing on Z? If he IS traded, I can almost guarantee wherever he lands, he'll rebound in a major way. You know...sort of like KAKKO and TROUBA have already. There are to asshats fucking up this organization and they're moving on different tracks. The first asshat is the coach. He is creating this losing environment, contrary to what the all-knowing diaper-wearing columnist from the Post claims. And then there's the general asshat, who is too stupid to understand his second error in hiring a coach...verifying that he never saw any real issue with the first one...and also that he's too pigheaded and arrogant to acknowledge his mistakes and correct them...the lethal combo of DRURY and LAVIOLETTE has dragged this team to where it is now. One kills them on the ice. The other kills them with trades. I will laugh my fucking ass off if DRURY's response to everything is to follow the lead of a hemorrhoid-laden sphincter like Brooks, keep LAV and ditch the core.

sjw - Totally could be anxiety. I mean, dude, Z has had just a horrific start to his season and the whole team is in such a state of disaster...Like I said a few days ago...his interview after the Lightning game...I'm not sure how anyone could watch that and come to the conclusion that this is a guy who doesn't give a shit or is dogging it. The dude looked on the verge of a breakdown...hockey is an emotional sport and if that emotion is positive...well, a rising tide floats all ships...but when it's negative? Man. I tell you what: It's tough as hell to navigate the ice when your brain is second-guessing every stride you take. Mika is a guy who is clutching his stick to the point where I'm surprised he's not crushing it in his hands. This isn't a player not trying. It's a player who is lost and doesn't know how to get out of the worst funk of his career...and is now watching what should've been a cup run turn into a rebuild.

re: ZIBANEJAD, be very careful for what you ask for. I know some...or rather one...poster here would be elated...but the grass is always greener on the other side. A trade of Z is going to look almost identical to the TROUBA trade...you're not getting shit back. You're getting the forward-equivalent of VAAKANAINEN and, if we eat salary, maybe a second rounder...in short, you are going to get less than the player you're giving...and then I'll also remind y'all that our middle would look like this: TROCHECK-CHYTIL-BRODZINSKI-CARRICK...but I guess, in the name of drafting Jimmy HAGENS...GIDDY UP!!

RF4L - Not sure if you looked up Conor McCOLLUM, but this AIN'T someone you bring into the fold to trade your starting goaltender. My guess is that they have an injury somewhere and need someone to carry the load in practice. BOYKO and OLLAS might be unavailable for whatever reason. I see they're on different ECHL teams right now...either way, I very strongly doubt GARAND is on the move. I think he's the guy they have in mind to replace QUICK next season.

TD- my fear is the Kakko trade will go down as one of the worst in NYR history, on a par with Middleton for Hodge, Park and Ratelle for Espo and Vadnais, Ridley and Miller for Carpenter. I’m pretty sure Kakko wanted out and asked, but it’s NYR vet loving coaches that turned a super dominant junior star with offensive ability into Jesper Fast. I agree that players like Fast are very important, but that was just the only road for Kakko here due to the 3 coaches that never committed to him. Maybe the NYR had an embarrassment of winger riches for awhile, and maybe they should have dealt a Kreider earlier for a big package or better yet, glued him to Zbad and Kreider for more than 10 games (God knows they could use a defensive responsible winger on that line). Anyway, never deal a 23 year old if you aren’t sure he’s a bust, he’ll haunt you for 15 years.

PJ - I'm not going to spell the virtues of MILLER, who, like the rest of the team, is having a bad season. But last night? Two of those goals were directly on his wandering partner, which essentially left MILLER fending off a two-on-one. Best I can say for BORGEN is he's strong. I haven't even seen him throwing the hits he was throwing in Seattle. Everything is stickwork. Just jousting guys. I'll reserve some judgement on him, because he IS coming into a trainwreck organization and a coach who has abandoned any semblance of structure. I did notice him throwing big hits in Seattle...but I just haven't seen it here. All I see is a guy who gets lost. A lot.

Hospo - re: the ice time, that's because BYSMLA gets it. LAVIOLETTE doesn't. He won the cup one way and got to the finals using that model. He is literally incapable of changing. The only time he takes a step in the right direction is when there are no special teams.

Puckyou - The Rangers and Ranger fans will come to rue the day KAKKO was traded...the question now is how much and how bad. There are some really exceedingly delusional fans that think this was a case similar to ANDERSSON and KRAVTSOV...where KAKKO was a bust and they needed to cut bait...and it's a great way to separate fans who don't know jack from the ones who might actually know a few things...At BARE MINIMUM, KAKKO was a very good third liner, 30-40-point player. Full stop right there. A Jesper FAST-type player...Let's pause there and acknowledge how fucking valuable these type of guys are to organizations, starting with this one, which literally couldn't find someone TO replace Jesper FAST and all he did. But I digress...Contrary to some errant claims here, KAKKO was never given the shot he's being given in Seattle, full stop. It's not even arguable. And he's doing with the Kraken what he was doing with the Rangers, which is make his line better...The Rangers not only made their third line weaker...and this is coming from someone who REALLY likes Brett BERARD...but they also acquired a guy who has made their DEFENSE weaker, as remarkable as that may sound...this was a bad trade for the present, and a bad trade for the future. The only marginal hope is that the third rounder they got for him becomes like the second rounder they got for ANDERSSON(i.e. Will CUYLLE)...Also, let that sink in: The Rangers essentially got LESS for KAKKO than they did for ANDERSSON.

From the Pack prior to the start of today's game: Garand day to day and spicy meatballs, 'unavailable'.

I’m hoping January 3 is going to be the change in management day. And I hope Dolan is making the announcements.

I hope they are looking to move Spicy Pork not Garand. I don't trust Drury to make a hockey trade. His plan should be: Move the pending UFAs at the deadline, give up the GM title and hire someone who knows what he is doing.

If zbad is ok with getting traded, it’s probably a good idea for something in return. But I don’t trust drury to make the deal while holding his ankles.

If I hated my job which I do and told the boss as much they would say goodbye.....I don't have a no move clause...I won't go to another company but would have to be where I live I don't make 2-10 million per year. . No I don't feel sorry for them but they are supposed to at least pretend to care....for that amount of money....even if they are the lowest paid of professional sports.

Jfc31 yes they are professionals whom make toms of money, amazingly they are humans.....

SJW - I posted the other day that it looks like Z is cracking up. His post-game interview was insane…he was talking very, very quickly and loudly (for him) and just seemed to be having an anxiety attack right there and then…

No. No problem at all. I'd be OK with eating half if it meant the return was good. 2 pluses if so cuz assets back and no more Zbad.

rf - would that be a big problem? I mean, it’s a “pick your poison” situation at this point, isn’t it? Keep Zibanejad for the next 5 years as he continues to get older or take on a$2 mil cap hit. Revenues for the NHL are going way up which means the cap will continue to get larger every year. If $2 mil is what it takes for the next 5 years but we get a good return, then so be it. Wonder if ZiB would like San Jose? I still think Grier owes his pal Drury a favor for the Goodrow waivers….and SJ has plenty of cap space so maybe they’ll take the whole contract.

RF…That may be worth it…If true the key is him willing to cooperate with a move….

Can't see Zbad going anywhere without Rangers eating at least 1/4 of his salary.

After seeing Mika miss that starting shift .. I think 2nd period.. I thought .. looks like he is having an anxiety/panic attack ... is he on meds.. that would certainly impact his play... and then I flashed back .. oldtimer that I am .. to Frank Mahovlich in Toronto ... 67/68 season .. some sort of issues.. nobody talked about stuff like that back then .. Leafs shipped him out to Detroit, and he had several excellent seasons after .. there and in Montreal winning2 more cups.. it just made me connect the dots.. could be completely wrong .. but interesting ..

Zibanejad open to a trade? From The Fourth Period: “ One player who may also be available is veteran forward Mika Zibanejad, who owns a full no-movement clause. Citing a source close to the Rangers, Pagnotta reported on Monday that Zibanejad would be open to waiving his NMC for the right environment. It is unclear, however, if the Rangers and Zibanejad have discussed which teams he would accept a move to, but that conversation could come if Drury finds the right fit. Friedman also suggested on Monday that Zibanejad could be up for grabs and he could be the next big shoe to drop in Manhattan, but noted the team is wide open for business.”

Pack sign a goalie to a PTO. They now have 4 goalies on the team. Surely a trade involving Garand is imminent. Or Igor???

I heard when Meeka threw that blind backhand pass up the middle to give the Panthers the early 1-0 lead, Lavi was so angry when he looked down the bench and Kakko wasn’t there to bench!

TD….You know who else Jones is better than?….Miller…Not Borgen’s fault he was traded for Kakko…But to single him out over Miller in last nights game is just hating…He actually has been ok in my opinion…The defending of Miller is mind boggling….He should at his best at this point in his career….

So now we're posting links for fan podcasts? If it were former players or beat writers, I get it, but these guys are just fans that comment on news broken by others. Who gives an F what they think? Rangers Digest is one of the worst, he is nothing more than clickbait central.

Puckyou - Please god let that be true with ZBAD..Get him out of here...As for KAKKAO, his passing for SEA is not surprising...Up until being pissed away by Fat Man and Dip Shit, Kakkao passing/set up ability with Cuylle and CHytle was very eye opening..All he needs is to go to the net more..and he will..for SETTLE..Speaking of Seattle, and i know they are not the Gold modle,, but intersting to see every forward with ovr 12 minutes and none over 17.5 minutes...Quite the different operational model than Laviolette...it needs to chanage at leqast a little

Dave pagontta of 4th period reporting Mika is open to waiving his no trade for the right environment .

By the way, I just saw the replays of the kraken game- Kakko with 2 sick 3rd period primary assists to break a 3-3 tie in the 3rd and give Seattle the win. Both passes created breakaways

VTRanger - I can see that....OTOH I am not overly impressed with the 20 min effort against TB and last night's effort against an impotent struggling team...The guys did play harder though but they were still a mess defesnively anytime they were pressured....both the forwards and D..There is ZERO structure to fall back on...ANd maybe they fianlly try but the team still wants it easy with little considertion for tewmwork and plays like that,,,They are also severly undermanned defensively and at least 1-2 NHL forwrds down...A guy like Kakkao and Trouba might help....AMyways, thye might try individually a bit more but, teamwise, I expect the spiral down to continue with losses to both BOS and WASH..and that will be it...then Laviolette goes...After that, who the fuck knows..Only thinig I know is DRURY does not have it in him to guide this team forward

Last night and really, Saturday night were both good efforts out of this team that were hamstrung by poor coaching decisions. Not efforts, mind you, that will win against top teams, but one where you could genuinely see the players digging in...contrary Fuckface McDotard's claims they just quit...They battled back, and they played good defense, for the most part...But let's get into the decisions made my the newest member of the Clueless Jackass's Club...Let's start with getting something abundantly clear: Will BORGEN and Urhu VAAKANAINEN are tied at seventh on the defender depth chart and while one may slot into the lineup on occasions, there is never any call or reason to have both there...Neither one is as good as JONES either defensively or offensively. The best I can say is that BORGEN is stronger. He's a fucking idiot when it comes to positioning and likes to stick check a lot for a dude billed as a physical defenseman, but he brings ZERO to the game. VAAKANAINEN? Best I can say about him is that I don't notice him...Either way, NEITHER of these guys is as good as MANCINI, and MANCINI himself could use a little work...Putting both in the lineup is madness...and the only move worse would be to dump in RUHWEDEL...beyond these two games, the message couldn't be clearer to JONES: He has no future with this coach. And I suspect the only reason he hasn't asked for a trade is that he's hoping this clown will get fired soon...So that's the first big fuckup...Second? The powerplay. How this idiot continues to roll out the SAME tired unit...now mystically transformed with LAFRENIERE...is beyond me...outside of the fact that it loads way too many minutes on TROCHECK, KREIDER and prior to his move, ZIBANEJAD, they look stale. And it's because the guys on it are also the same guys who are struggling...PANARIN and FOX among them...I could look the other way on this, I suppose, were it not for the fact that CHYTIL and his line were ON FIRE last night. Yet he can't even break 15 minutes of ice? You know who else looked good last night? THE FOURTH LINE. EDSTROM had a great game...all seven minutes of it. BERARD also played great...for all of nine minutes of ice he got...How you go into the final minutes of the game with CHYTIL on the bench and the SAME struggling players on the ice to lose it...well, it's beyond me...Let's also get into how in the fucking hell BORGEN, who again, is not very good at anything, is on the ice for 19 minutes and SCHNEIDER only 14? It's mystifying. His pairing with MILLER was awful...and while I'm sure there are some fans doing their usual gang up on MILLER...I saw MASSIVE gaffs by BORGEN on two of those goals...to his very limited credit, he's new with the team and might not know this system that well...but shit. The guy chases players and leaves his positioning by the net ALL. THE. TIME. He's fucking terrible and just a visible reminder of how the GM made this team a lot weaker with that deal...At any rate, if you're a doddering half-blind brain-dead columnist who hasn't understood hockey since the late 1990s, maybe...MAYBE you could watch that game last night and continue to blame the players for this demise...but for us who know hockey? THAT WAS ON THE COACH. 100 percent. Bad lineup decisions. Bad bench management. Bad strategy. Oh and don't even get me into that fucking idiot challenging on the first goal. This team has been drilled into the ground by a guy who is particularly inept and apparently has surrounded himself with a bunch of fucking yes men.

Evets: I'm in a crappy mood this morning, so here is my dismal prediction. The Rangers are showing signs of coming back to life. It may take a few more games, but at some point they are going to start winning again. In fact, they are going to start winning a lot and will get themselves into the wildcard race. They will fail, though, ultimately missing the last wild card spot by 2 or three points. In the process, they will wreck the chance to draft any of the elite center prospects you mentioned. In fact, given their mediocre draft position, they will then draft the "best player available" (meaning they will draft someone other than a center). And on and on it goes. Happy New Year all!

I've been advocating the idea of shopping Miller for 2 years now - I think he's one of those guys where the whole is less than the sum of the parts and that's because what is arguably the most important part - hockey IQ - is lacking. That said, I don't believe he should be given away but of course if Dreary trades him now, he's trading low. Miller should be have been moved for a young top 6 centre last summer or the summer before. Sleep at the wheel/sit on his hands Dreary misses the boat. Again.

Looking forward... Pre-draft lottery, the Rangers are slated to select 7th overall. Here are some centers around that spot right now who will be excellent options: MICHAEL MISA - 6'1", 185lbs, Much of Misa’s production this season has come in transition and his ability to attack off the rush. He’s a high-end skater with NHL level edge work and top end speed. He’s able to make lots of skilled plays at breakneck pace, generating controlled zone entries with ease and linking up with teammates as he drives the slot.; ROGER MCQUEEN - 6'5", 190lbs, Watch his highlight reels and marvel at his ability to deke defencemen and spin them around, doing it all in tight to his body, despite his massive frame; look at his elite instinct to get to goal-scoring positions undetected; and of course, he can use his enormous frame and size to play physically. That said, the big question is whether he can put all of his tools together and do it on a consistent basis., ANTON FRONDELL - 6', 196lbs, Frondell is a complete 200-foot player who has no discernable weaknesses in his toolkit and can play both down the middle and on the wing. He is a physical beast, and he has legitimate dual-threat scoring ability.; CALEB DESNOYERS - 6'2", 179lbs, He's engaged in all three zones and competes for pucks in traffic. Desnoyers is a threat to produce off the rush. He has the vision and patience to slow things down and wait for options to present themselves. He is at his best when playing with higher-end players and showcasing his ability to be a play connector and complementary asset to the line.; One of these guys is going to be there for the Rangers. McQueen seems to be in line with the way the Rangers have drafted over the past few years. Whoever they select will immediately be their number one center prospect.

Whoever these 2 knuckleheads are….. they are not clueless….https://youtu.be/AlHP2KbR8wg?si=2TfAftZEdnD1Qt43

“ And now the Rangers are here, sitting in last place in the Metropolitan Division, losers of four straight games and 15 of 19, with the follow-up campaign to a Presidents’ Trophy-winning season on the brink of devastation.”…. Hey coach and gm you are what your record says you are. WTFU you have mostly made this mess now clean it up or walk away. Give someone else the chance to make it better. It’s obvious that the players are not giving ???? % , nor is management. Paging Jimmy Dolan!

“We did enough to win the game, we did enough to lose the game,” head coach Peter Laviolette said after his team fell to 16-19-1 before the new year. “It is frustrating because you feel like you’re doing more good than you are bad out there. At the end of the day, it’s not showing on the scoreboard. That’s the business, it’s winning. It’s not good enough.”…..” Zibanejad’s minus-22 rating on the season is officially the third worst in the NHL.”

Hospo they are running the team according to the calendar instead of acting on priorities. What’s another week or two of losing in the big scheme of THINGS? Maybe the coach should write a memo to his team and himself about all those THINGS. He needs some thingamajigs .

Lardass which things the first thing or the second thing or the other thing? Something wrong with your thinking. Keep trying the same thing over and over again and expect different results. Thanks for perpetuating the slump. It’s the only way THINGS might change in Nyr land. Is drury coming back after the holidays? They have become a mia organization waiting for the dust to settle between their ears. 2025 should be an interesting bunch of THINGS for the frustrangers . Stay the intercourse.

Stevie - He's a fucking idiot ..needs to go NOW...so sad that a 5-3 LOSS probbly bought him at least 2 more games..hell, myabe 2 weeks!

The coach without a head…” And yet, head coach Peter Laviolette opted to have Mika Zibanejad on the ice instead of Chytil for the six-on-four power play while vying to tie the game with an empty net in the final moments of regulation. “There’s a group that we work on things and we go over things, there’s a group that’s been together,” Laviolette said when asked if there was thought to have Chytil out there in the end given his strong game. “So, I mean, he played well. He was supposed to be going out on the second unit and he just never got the change with the person he was changing for.”

Hospo…I get it…I wouldn’t give him away either like was done with Kakko. But a substantial offer and I drive him to the airport.

PJ - Like I said, I agree with your take on MILLER this year but i can't just ignore late last year...We have pissed away enough young players lately, don't want to do it again....This season is such a shit show for the team and so many players--Miller, Fox, Lindgren, ZBAD, Kreider, Trouba before being dealt, Kakkao in the eyes of Drury, Laffy and others not far behind..that I don't want to make a decision on MILLER (or any kid), and he has never been my favorite player, based on these two months of diseased NY Ranger Hockey

vcp…Too harsh on Miller?…Hell no…He is horrible…He used to have occasional lapses of judgement to be kind…His entire game now is a lack of judgement…A guy with his reach and speed regularly gets blown past or is out of position….

Hospo completely agree about miller.... Drury will get some picks for him....Drury is awful heck intake trader phill back or Neil Smith .... Drury is utterly clueless.......

Check out this clip of Paul Maurice. This is EXACTLY what should have been yelled at the Rangers for the past 5 years! Basic fucking hockey! That’s why they are Cup winners! https://fb.watch/wPbb83aE2H/?

Let's only hope.. Mentioned one of my favorite shows earlier, Hot Stove. David Pagnotta is the insider on it. He reported on Monday that ZShit would be open to waive his NMC for the right place. It's unclear that NYR and ZShit had already discussed it, but convo could start, if right place is found!!

VCP - I just like what I saw of MILLER in the POs last year and think he has a high ceiling and am afraid to give him up for scraaps as is Drury's MO

Hospo agree about miller he is having a bad year like others in the team.....shit happens.....he has been more physically engaged past 2 games... Again he was a not a D man for many year's ......we are two harsh harsh

RF4L - I thihnk i beat you to it on that one!!!!..Stupid, stupid trade and horrible return..Screw Drury

Newfie... He is on the Jimmy Vesey career path(IE. started out in the top six, realized be's a better fit on the bottom six). He has 4 more points than either Vesey(21 gp) or Edstom 36 gp) and he's only played 21 games. We need more speed and physicality and he'd cost us nothing. If he sucks as a person, you just let him go.

BTW. Drury throw away and Laviolette's unwanted bastard getting mega ice tonight with two helpers

PJ - Call me crazy but I still don't want to give up on MILLER..right partner, right roll I think he could still be very good...but I relly can't argue/disagree with your (and others) take on him this year....but so many players have been shit

Jones should be back in…His GA for 60 is very good and he could help the PP…Miller continues to be awful…Mancini is better than him defensively…He just needs a checkered flag to wave as opposing team forwards fly past him..

Well there is no stress as a fan for the remainder of this year ... was sayin at the end of last season felt we had another year maybe 2 before a retool rebuild.. well that was wrong it's now instead so get on with it.. of course the lack of confidence in Drury is one thing .. and how long they limp along with a lame duck coach , who is definitely not part of any re-tool is yet to be seen

Except ZBAD never went to the net! but he was a very good two way perimiter player and EXCELLENT on special teams...DOn't you want to be that agaian, Meeka? On another team?

The sad part about tonight is that only a few years back, passionate and decisive plays, going to the net, driving trough traffic, scoring by beating goalie right upfront, everything that Chytil was tonight, it was Zibanejad, even better.

NEWFIE - teams will trade for guys like Cuylle, MIller, Schneider, Laffy and the great Wil BORGEN..but that's about it...Everybody else would be pennies for dollars or ho hum draft picks....Only move to make now is the Coach...then somebody above Drury has to haave the brains and guts to can that incompetent ass.

Jesse Puljujarvi is on waivers, go get him Drury. He's Physical and has speed, we could use him on the 4th line. Hell, I would take him over SMITH.

The Kid line a collective -7 despite CHYTL's flying..No, Berard is not a good replacement for KAKKAO if yo want a solid line that can play two way hockey..but that idea was flushed down the toilet over a month ago by the Brain Rust

Well there you have it...a good news /bad news situation....it would appear to me that the guys have not given up ,not quit on their team , the fans or the season......but on the other hand ,boy does this team suck. I would trade half of them but you can't get anything back in order to bulid it back up again.. People around the league are not blind or stupid. Now we really have to consider the coach and the GM .but we have to make changes and sooner than later.

Chytil looked like a new man once again and Fox didn’t…I don’t get what’s going on with Fox.

Much more life and should have gotten something out of this one but D still poor and Igor couldn’t win it for them and wasn’t great himself…6 on 4 and you don’t put Chytil out who had been absolutely flying…Laviolette had no feel for in game momentum…

The yin and yang of JOnes..maybe help the PP...but gets demolished by teams getting physical and going to the net...And hey, when your shut down D-pair is MILLER and somebody named BORGEN, the games really don't matter much

Rangers PP1 had a completely different look and it was good. Rangers were also getting puck after puck towards the net and THAT was different, too…and EFFECTIVE!

VCP... I have made this point before but I think MILLER's brain is wired to play defense like a forward(his original position). There are so many times that he just doesn't think like a defenseman.

hospo... infuriating to watch that 6-4 power play and the shot selection once they move the puck around.... it's horrible low probability rather than pass pass shoot...

Rangers deserved better and also got what they deserved. The refs fucked them but they also fucked themselves. They missed the net so many times it was ridiculous. All Cuylle had to do was lift that shot instead of sliding it on the ice. And once again there were defensive breakdowns that led to goals against. Bobo also made more critical saves than Shesty did. But, if…..IF…the Rangers continue to play like this they will win more games than they lose.

I did like the effort tonight. PP looked much better without ZShit on it. So there were certainly some positives. Fox is not looking right. But at least for the first time in weeks, enjoyed watching Rangers. Season is done, but at least want to enjoy few games.

I hate to say it but ZAC JONES needs to come back in the lineup. He is our 2nd best offensive defenseman and FOX is just not FOX right now. At the very least, he will give PP2 a better chance.

Why did miller pass the puck to no one during the 6 on 4. ...it was a blind pass....

Its sad when I can get some comfort knowing that at least we lost (AGAIN)to the SC Champions. ANDREI I was feeling that way, but it's going on too long, possibly gun-shy? Somethings wrong, of course somethings wrong with the whole organization but I digress. Something is really off with Fox and it was obvious when they were still playing professional hockey (the beginning of the season)

This herculean effort to only lose 5-3 should at least stretch Fat Coutry's tenure through Saturday nd the loss to the Caps

Another loss. Shocking. Usual suspects out in the 6 on 4 and we getting nothing but missed nets by Mika.

No matter.. cannot win giving up 5/6 goals every night...last year Rangers win this one walkin away cause they do not miss the Grade A chances like they did tonight ... still that BS 3rd goal call pisses me off

RF4L - MILLER was very good late last year...I don''t blme Driury for not trading hi..Every other move is another story

Kreider didn’t have the puck, Tkachuk cross checks him into Bennett…no call. Unreal reffing

So Rangers have played an excellent 1st period at Tampa and so far 1 1/2 periods in Miami. Don’t care about points at this point, but I want to see effort and hustle and creativity. So far, Rangers have played like they give a shit, like they do have some pride in them. Miller felt a sleep once again…

They were playing fairly well..but not capable of handling FLA when they go to the net....MILLER getting beat didn't help either

All it took was for Kreider to finally move forward instead of standing parked at front of the goalie. He open himself to receive a puck. Excellent shot!!! No waiting there. No windup attempts, just a few simple smart plays.

When somethin is not workin .. make a change... surprise surprise a PP goal ... adjustments

Panthers also plying some pretty stupid hockey giving the Rangers a gift......KREIDER lives

All,I’m looking for is 100% effort this period…play with controlled desperation….show us they want it

JFC - I agree..buy a youngish long term coach is not gonna want to touch this sitution this season nor is Dickweed Drury likely to consider one ifffff he changes..The off season would be another story

Quick rule review.. and the rule is as it always been .. you CANNOT push the goalie's pad to dislodge a puck to score.. it's called goalie interference... completely blown call .. and where is the NHL review in Toronto on that .. should call the refs and uphold the rule.. FFS

I thought all lines played better that period…Even Z line had a dominant and yes physical shift…Kreider flattened someone and probably should have been penalized but they need to bottle it…

Bad goal, yes, but Rangers were running around like Chickens with their heads cut off..so I ain't gonna make too much of it

Listening to the pussycats cast justify the goal.. as the replay is playing .. clearly no attempt at the covered puck .. the stick is jammed into the pad and he just pushes... ridiculous goal

Funny cause drivin your stick into a goalie's pad to dislodge a covered puck .. has always not been allowed .. seem to recall a couple yrs ago Rangers getting a goal called off they scored on a late 6-5 when the player drove his stick into the pad dislodged it and it went in .. mmm good to know that rule has been changed

Well 20 minute of good hockey ..just like all they had the other night..Do they fold like agaisnt TB or do they have more pride left in them (althoug I haven't seen anything from the top six forwards)

Finally some push back from the Rangers when behind and they got rewarded…only to get screwed by their own ineptness and the ineptness of the refs! FUCK! That should have been blown dead! Even when Shesty’s leg was splayed out, the puck was SOLIDLY under his skate blade!

Crying shame no whistle on that third goal…I mean no way ref can see the puck…

Miller doing his Keystone Kop routine big time..and the kid line with it's head up it's ass...Giveth and taketh away

Happy to say I was wrong .. they found a pulse and have been the better team in the 2nd by far ..and if a couple plays went their way .. Trocheck breakaway , Chytil post and Berard missing a wide open net ( but made up for it with a great shot pass off the pads) .. I dare say they could be up 4 or 5 to 2..they keep draggin me back in

Part of the core actually grew some balls after being shown up by the kids..I'll take it...And then the 4th line role plyers convert...

CHYTL deserves that..he has been flying...but, man, I thought he was gonna get plastered

JFC - Yep on LAFFY..he is in the middle of this also....PJ - I noticed that backcheck..something none of the top six forwards would ever try to do

DRURY is in pure self presevation self-serving mode, the taem is secondary..Keep Fat Man Around..so there is somebody to blame for all of Dipshits incomkpetence since no vet is really tradeable..excepth maybe Kreider to Bos for a 4th rounder

Lafrenière has been showing major frustration on the ice and someone has got to call him out on it…it doesn’t accomplish anything positive at all when you slam yiur stick on the while heading to the bench….

Good stretch. Can't score anymore. Soon to be 3 zip and that sign of life will vanish.

Part of that article sounds like words from drury being given to brooks by his source.

After going down 2-0 Rangers are skating well…Just can’t convert these chances…

The Chytil injury and trying to get Z going were the straws that broke the camel’s back…

RDW - Yep..and the CHYTL injury muddled things...but it was never really given a chnce again for the reason you mention

Hospo: Yep. I believe the whole reason behind breaking that line up was to get Mika going....

Remember when Kakkao-Chytl-Cuylle was the best line in the NHL for over a month? That was destroyesd also..Boy how things change

JFC - I am trying to watch CUYLLE, SCHNEIDER, LAFFY nd a few others with some optimism..but they are being devoured by this.....OMG, somebody called ZBAD a bad naame!!!

RF4L - I think so..The ex-Caps coach..On in between periods on the NHL Network...And regarding the coaching...That Laviolette needs to go is beyond obvious as every player is devolving...but, what the fuck is with these high priced assistant coaches Dipshit and Fatman brught in?...Are they that incompetent also?..Coacch gotta go s the first step..then the rest ....but who the fuck would want to coach this directionless mess?

So, once again, Brooks could have taken that article DIRECTLY from The Wall…almost word-for-word, all those sentiments have been presented here by all of us. But, let me ask this…are we gonna keep repeating the same invectives, then same mottos, the same anger over & over & over again or at some point…now that we’ve written off this team’s chances of winning this season…are we gonna put aside the broken record and start watching with a semi-hopeful eye and look for whatever positives we can find. Or are we gonna keep going like this because this shit ain’t fun to read. Experiencing it is BAD ENOUGH, I’m getting sick of coming here and reading the constant drumbeat of negativity. It’s one thing to discuss what’s going wrong ON THE ICE but to read the same mantras constantly is getting unbearable…

Here’s what brooks wrote: “ Ownership and management had no stomach for this. The hierarchy was not going to allow this flawed core to fire another head coach less than two years after beseeching GM Chris Drury to dismiss Gerard Gallant in May 2023 — 11 months after going to the conference final. But that’s what this splintered core has effectively done, even if Peter Laviolette remains behind the Rangers bench much like a broken general pleading with his troops not to desert the battlefield. It is only a matter of time, whether it is this week, next month or the moment the season ends. This is like the old movie plot in which a man has been poisoned and knows he will die in 24 hours but takes the time left to track down his murderer. But in this case, it does not take nearly that long to identify the culprit. It’s the core. Now the splintered core. The Rangers have quit on their coach, they have quit on the organization, they have quit on themselves, they have quit on each other, they have quit on the fans who pay top dollar to fill the Garden and they have quit on New York. This is worse than the Dark Ages of 1997 through 2004, in which mercenaries filled the Ranger$ roster and missed the playoffs seven straight seasons. I have been watching the Rangers for nearly 70 years. I was in the side balcony while the team was an Original Six laughingstock. And I was in the blue seats when it all came tumbling down for Emile Francis in 1975-76. But I don’t know if I have seen anything quite like this ongoing disgrace to the sweater. Laviolette and his staff have done themselves no favors. The Rangers have no structure. They have not defended from Game 1. There is no coherent way out of the defensive zone. There is no forecheck. The neutral zone has become a sieve. The same mistakes are committed over and over again. There have been few adjustments. There has been no accountability. This last-place team does not present a single redeeming quality. They lack self-belief. They do not compete. At this point, there is not a single player who is playing well. This has become an unhealthy environment for the kids who are supposed to be learning how to conduct themselves. Aww, are the core’s feelings hurt? In nearly a half-century in this business, I have never heard more about feelings than I have the last three months. Barclay Goodrow’s feelings were hurt. Jacob Trouba’s feelings were hurt. Their friends’ feelings were hurt. Boo-hoo. Funny, none of them have asked to be traded. I guess they thought they were just going to fire another coach or maybe this time get the GM. This is not about saving this season. Yesterday’s not only gone, so is tomorrow. This is about restoring a modicum of credibility to the operation. This is about reapplying a standard so that Drury and the hierarchy have the proper intelligence to make personnel decisions that will impact the next decade. Ownership proved in 2018 that the goal is not to simply scrape into the playoffs for a couple of postseason home games, but to win the Stanley Cup. The Rangers will take a step back in order to take two steps forward. Drury has made his share of mistakes. The Subtext message after which the team has rolled into a fetal position was a mistake, but the team had just had consecutive no-show first periods; had already been outclassed decisively by Washington, Winnipeg and Florida; and had been humiliated at home by Buffalo. Toxicity had already been in the air for weeks. The GM’s biggest mistake, however, was not recognizing that bringing Trouba back into the room after the events of the summer — documented accurately in this space in July and in September — would prove destructive. Power against power, Trouba won. But what are his winnings? He will be remembered as the worst captain in the history of the franchise, he has been bounced across the country, separated from his family, could be moved again at the deadline and maybe again over the summer. Or maybe there will be a buyout. A more Pyrrhic victory has never been achieved. There are seismic decisions ahead. The core as we know it is finished. But they got themselves one more pelt, didn’t they? Fait accompli. The 2024-25 Rangers’ only accomplishment.“

LOve Boudreau Pointing out the embarrassment and lack of heart, smarts, and, indirectly, coacjhing of the Rangers..And he's being nice...The fucking Finesse Fly Bys!!

Best play of the period .. Berard snow shower... smallest guy agitating ...he can stay IMO...the basic plays in their own end are not being executed.. saw 3 Rangers jump to 1 Panther,, and if not fora deflection the weak side D was wide open .. again ....

Yeah I watch bottom 6er Smith and keep thinking a 2nd and a 5th to get him. What a horrible trade.

ColoradoMark - Mollie Walker: Asked if he had ever asked for a trade out of New York, Kakko didn’t explicitly say yes or no. “There were maybe talks about that,” Kakko said. “I always loved my time in New York, all those years.” Pretty obvious he asked for a trade with that quote and the fact that he signed that 1-year contract so quickly

These core vet pussies--Kreider, Fox, Panarin and especially ZBAD are torture to watch...And even kids liek Cuylle and CHYTL are buying into their crap..That's the reson the Coach AND players need to be gone--what's being done to the kids--- since the GM is doign everything to keep excuses and blames around as long as possible

This team is in a insane pattern: start off discombobulated, give up an early self-inflicted goal, take a few penalties, ok seems to wake them up, they play even, Shesty lets in one he should have had, team can’t shoot either any authority, waiting for an off-man rush next

And you're right - this negative depressing crap is sucking the life and confidence from the younger players. How could it not?

Hospo. Yes hence my Dreary rant. WTF is he waiting for? I guess Dolans permission. There's more spine in my shit than that fucker has in his body.

The only reason I can think of why Drury is letting this continue is to make it so bad for Zbad that he waves his NMC.....other than that, I've never seen management of a team(especially one in NYC)just sit back and watch everything burn while doing nothing about it.

I look forward to watching my Rangers…Even more so now that I am retired…This I can’t take….Painful…

Had 1 Millimeter of hope left....but This is beyond comprehension...Pitiful, pitiful, pitful..Coach sucks, Core sucks , Kids being taught to suck..which is the worst part

This is shameful. Dreary you're a complete asshole to sit idly by as your team is being humiliated game in and game out. Gawd that weasel bugs the fuck outa me. Show your weasel face and explain your behavior. Assprick

So you put Z out on the PK?….Laviolette really is lost….Has to go…Keeping him is insanity…

Games over already ... if Laviolette is still the coach tomorrow this organization is clueless..

LOL .. a goal against in the first 5 minutes on a blind backhand pass giveaway by .. zbad.. I mean this laughablly predictable

This is a great opportunity to bet against the rangers and make some money....... probably not lolol odds aren't great that they will win...

LOL all Elliote Freidman said was that he trusts the dotard and that the Rangers are getting LAVIOLETTE fired. In truth, he said not much of anything at all other than the Rangers are a mess and there are more moves ahead. The Amazing Kreskin he ain't.

I’m honestly not trying to dump on Mika but if he doesn’t get it together, he won’t have a career. He’s not a bottom six guy although we could become one if he really wanted to, but he doesn’t use his body so I doubt it. His downfall is spreading like a virus.

Look-bottom line is Mika is our number one Center coming into the year. You can blame the GM the coach the other players bottom line Mika shit the bed this year so far. Imagine Edmonton if McDavid didn’t show up for the season and was -17 or 19 or whatever. What would they be saying in Edmonton? . Whatever his deal is, he needs to get his shit together. He’s dragging down the team..

Newfie freidman believes brooks has good sources. I can’t read the article but he’s basically writing what he was told. He didn’t absolve the players but I don’t think he mentions drury . Which leads me to believe his source is giving him a message from drury. Otherwise he would probably be banished. The players will do their best to lose tonight and into the new year if they continue to revolt against the organization. Drury has put himself on the spot. I doubt he has the trust of Dolan the way sather did.

Cm DD drury is both a ventriloquist and a dummy. His karma is here and will come even harder.

On this latest Brookie thing..what if he is 100% correct ? Well, let's call his bluff and have some fun with it at the same time. We can approach this in two ways...we can agree or disagree ,like good little brothers and sisters here on the Wall. what I have in mind is a good (I think ) mental exersize. let's all watch this game tonight with an open mind but let's also approch it in a different manner than usual.After all it is the last game for this squad for 2024 ! In stead of shitting on Drury and Lavy all night and complain about the PP1, line combos,ice time etc .let's look at the players on the ice , shift for shift. I know we don't have an iso cam but we all know enough about hockey to judge effort and body language . RIGHT ? So ,tonight,pay close attention to either your fav guys or the ones that aren't. let's go with the premise that a picture IS worth a thousand words. If we ALL do this ,at least by NewYears eve ,we will either agree with Brooksie or have some idea of how we really feel about this team of 2024-25. I know it's only one game but considering the circumstances..to me ,at least ,this is the most important game of the year !!!!!!!!!!!!

I didn't know Kakko had asked for a trade? I think someone suggested that on here, but I thought it was an assumption. There are alot of statements made that Drury did this and said this, but I don't know what is real and what is conbecture. If I were Kakko, I would have requested a trade, mainly because of the pressure of him living up to the #2 pick and the repeated scapegoating (deserved or not). But I really don't remember reading a quote anywhere about him requesting a trade.

Assistant coach Dan Muse has worked a lot with current USA members Drew Fortes ue and Gabe Perrault. I’m guessing he is gonna get the gig if they dump the core some more. Think about it…if you trade 33-year old Kreider, this team is pretty young…depending on who comes back in exchange, of course. I like our core of young players & if Perrault is the real deal the way I think he is and Forgescue can get here in another year or two, Dan Muse would make a lot of sense considering Drury’s ties to Team USA Jrs.

PJ - Kakko spouted off this season…he had already asked for a trade and he had nothing to lose. I was referring to the core shiving Gallant in the exit interviews. Kids were still too young to rip their coach, no matter how much they may have wanted to. But, KK did say he thought he would do better with more ice time.

In the meantime it’s fairly obvious that the players have quit on the organization, except to me that means drury not Dolan. From what he’s done and said the target is on him and lardass became collateral damage. And he will proceed to trade anyone he can unless Dolan stops him. And that’s not absolving all the players. But the architect is building this team in his image and likeness. Igor got one of his signature knives with his new contract and went to the locker room like a kid to sharpen it , trying to absolve himself like he’s the $11.5 million king of hill infallible. Guess he didn’t want to copy the Trouba helmet toss. Memo to Shazam you’re not the captain and you are part of the problem. Guess quick is on the available list. I’m not sure who is not. This is not an enjoyable ride as the wheels fall off the bus.

Andrei I agree with you but I’m not going to tell you what parts I agree with. Maybe you can figure it out.

Speaking on Detroit's mess, suggest listing to the boys on the Hot Stove NHL XM Radio, Saturday's 11am-1pm and you can listen their podcast as well. Really good show. They sure roasted Stevie Y's ass crisper then a marshmallow, on Saturday. But maybe it my hearing that gone bad as well and boys at "Hot Stove" were worshiping him instead, for the remarkable job he has done. But maybe they know nothing about hockey as well, since that's probably the most obvious scenario. There is also a good show on NHL Radio on Sunday's, "Sunday Brunch" with Dave McCarthy. Maybe he also knows nothing about hockey, since he was also "not so highly speaking" about Steve Yzerman on Sunday, or his "wonderful" job drafting. But hey, there are more knowledgeable folks here, no doubt.

LOL. The 'horribly run' Red Wings have a prospect pool that is deeper than the Mariana Trench: NYGARD, Max PLANTE, Ondrej BECHER, Nate DANIELSON, SANDIN-PELLIKA, Trey AUGUSTINE, Brady CLEVELAND, Jesse KIISKINEN, Marco KASPER, Demitri BUCHELNIKOV, EDVINSSON, Shai BUIUM, Sebastian COSSA, Carter MAZUR, Red SAVAGE, Will WALLINDER...and that's before factoring in Lucas RAYMOND and Mo SEIDER...I would LOVE to have Detroit's problems...

Since I clearly know nothing about hockey, don't listen to me. Listen to the real insiders instead. Would advice giving a try to Elliotte Friedman's podcast's today, starts at about 39min (1st one) and about 10:30 (2nd one). Explains it well on why Lavi is still a coach and why core needs to go. https://www.sportsnet.ca/podcasts/32-thoughts/ and https://www.sportsnet.ca/590/the-fan-hockey-show/around-the-nhl-with-elliotte-friedman-rangers-downfall/ ...

Should be interesting to watch tonight as the cats have lost 2 in a row and can't be in a good mood. I can only imagine they're looking to fix that, take out some frustrations and just run us all over the ice and we'll do nothing because we're a soft team

As far as coach is concerned, I would put one of the assistants in charge as an Interim and wait 'til the offseason when we'd have a better choice of candidates.

If I had my choice, I might try to pry Chris Macfarland away from the AVS to be our next GM. Probably not going to happen, but he's a good choice.

Personally, I think you need a different mentality to coach in NHL, vs the old school. This is why younger coaches, especially those that played at some level, have a better track record then the old recycled crew. Those coaches have a very short shelf life. You have to know how to deal with the vets and at the the time, have ability to communicate and get the best out of kids and know how to guide and mentor kids at the same time. To me, the biggest mistake in Drury's tenure was the Lavi's hiring. He either had to get the right vet coach in, or promote Knoblauch. This team clearly needed a coach who would install a defensive system. That's said, in this new NHL, coaches get fired and get hired quicker then the oil change.

Stevie, really? Results could not be worst? Exhibit A - Kevin Adams in Barfallo, or Exhibit B - Old Lou in NYI, Exhibit C - Yzerman in Detroit, and list can go on and on. Those are terribly run teams, and they all have a terrible GM's in charge. Let's not wish for worst to come here.

Stevie... I have no interest in Messier being a GM. Maybe make him the team President. He's the kind of guy that can placate Dolan. We definitely can't have a GM that is both GM and President. That leaves no one above him to hold him accountable(the owner is NOT a hockey fan. He has mentioned it many times).

When a NYR fans says to me that this is the most embarrassed that they've been as a NYR fan, I will usually tell them that they must have Selective Amnesia. Im mean come on, the 60's were tough. Some of our worst teams since the 40's. I think people also remember the 80's more fondly than they should. We used to make the playoffs back them with an under .500 record. Those were the days :) The late 90's and early 00's sucked too. I felt embarrassed for TGO being on the team. We did nothing to protect the guy. He was a skating piñata.... That said, never have I ever seen a GM accomplish what Drury did this season. I lived through all of the George Steinbrenner years and he used to battle with his players and managers on the back pages of the sports rags. George still treated his players well, he was just a media whore in those years.

If messier is interested, he should be given a contract. He’s a proven leader , without a lot of baggage. He’s can have drury’s job too if Dolan is interested. It’s impossible for the results to be any worse.

Kakko didn’t just ask for more ice time…He said he deserved it more than some of his teammates and he was essentially a scapegoat..Pretty ballsy if you ask me…Whether you agree with him or not…

Agree on a young coach but he will have to have the authority to deal with ALL players as he sees fit…Can’t be handcuffed by Drury or it will be a waste of a hire…

RF4L - LOL, yeah, BESIDES the sex abuse coverup, I totally agree: QUENVILLE is just more of the same. Impressive resume and with cups on the right side of the lockout...but the game has even evolved since his heyday...part of me secretly hopes the reason LAVIOLETTE hasn't been fired yet is that they're waiting for Dave CARLE to finish up at the World Juniors.

Z doesn’t know whether shoot, pass or shit his pants at this point…Confidence shattered and has gone on so long he is afraid he will never get it back….Our idiot coach waited till it is a crisis to reduce some of his responsibilities…I feel for the guy but I never had the absolute hatred some here have for him…

Oh, and regarding the rotten core, remember…they had no issue throwing Gallant completely under the bus. Cluldmyiung guys like Kakko maybe said they want more ice time? Sure. But, they wouldn’t be stupid enough to demand anything with their lack of career gravitas. Nope, it would be the veterans who would do the deed…

td - I was also shocked at that Zibanejad post-game interview. He usually speaks softly and you can see him choosing his words as he speaks. But, post-game he was talking so fast and way louder than usual…it’s pretty clear that he is completely stressed out and is cracking. I would not be surprised to see him take a break for mental health reasons and/or request a trade, He can’t keep going like this….it’s actually getting afraid for him.

FWIW, I am not a fan of hiring Quenville and it's not just his role in the cover-up in Chicago. Yes, he's got an impressive resume but he's 66 years old, hasn't coach in 5 years and reeks of old school boys coaching club. I think it's much wiser to find a younger coach who's embracing the newer facets of coaching young professional athletes. Who that is, however, I've no idea and why, if Lardiolette is finally fired, it's quite possible Dreary will reach out to Quennville.

The LAFF-to-the-PP story line is just silly. Gonna get the same results. Nothing new. Team HAD a good second unit...but they just traded an important cog from that unit for a fucking "physical" defenseman who swings his stick around like Pokecheck POTI. Sigh. Bring on the Hawks' video coach. Then at least the rookies would be happy.

JFC31 - I don't absolve the team of anything...but one thing I can tell from listening to them speak and from watching them play is that NONE of them are happy with the current state of things or losing games like they've been losing. Dude, as much as people...or rather ONE guy here...loves bagging on ZIBANEJAD, the interview he had on Saturday...man, it was tough to watch. This is a guy who is in free-fall. A deer in the headlights. Just trying to do anything he can to snap out of this funk, but finding the same results. You look on that bench during the third period of that game, and they all look the same way. There aren't guys smiling and joking. These are guys who are lost. THAT is the big difference between these guys and those horrible teams from the early 2000s...THOSE guys didn't fucking give a shit. They half-assed everything and laughed about it. None of them cared whether they won or lost, because they had the money and were going to the bank...I don't see any of that with the Rangers...Jeeze, another moment that comes to mind? The first shorty they gave up on Saturday. Man, I don't think I've seen KREIDER and Z backcheck as hard as they did on that goal. Those two basically came from the slot and almost caught up...these aren't guys who 'quit.' They're guys who don't know how to get out of the funk they're in.

Well Trocheck and Panarin are already on PP1 so we are adding Laff…I mean he should be rewarded for his one goal in last 17 games…LOL…Get Cuylle and Berard up there…At least they give a shite…

Not sure what's worse these days, the stench coming from the Rangers from top to bottom or all the I told you so's and the competition to see who's exactly right on the Wall regarding the hierarchy of reason's for the Rangers plight (and I am as guilty as much or more than anybody!)...Zero Fucking Fun..Thank God we have the game tonight to look forward to!!..:)

Yep. It's the core. The same core that made the conference finals TWICE and won a President's Trophy eight months ago. Yep. Just rotten. Horrible players. Just no effort. It's not like this core holds any franchise records or anything...or that they regularly battled back into games and won them. MUST be the core...either that or a certain wallster has been chowing down on a jumbo bucket of fucking paint chips.

So the answer for the Rangers is to hire the guy who decided it wasn't a big deal that the video coach was blowing the team's 18-year-old 11th overall pick from the 2008 draft because it was "hard for the team to get where it was”...pun not intended...Sigh...someone was also telling me Mark MESSIER was quoted saying he wants to hop behind the bench, which I still find to be very questionable...but yeah. QUENVILLE. Sigh.

JFC31, finally was able to read the LB article. Well, that's exactly what we have being saying for month now. It's the fucken core that is rotten to bone and needs to be torn down in order for the team to move forward. Plain and simple. Plenty of blame to go around, but the main problem are the players. But then again, what do we know. It all can be fixed overnight with a brand new coach and we will be celebrating a Cup in the summer, right?

Let DD drury trade panarin fox Krieder, miller lindgren and keep his prized coach . Shazam might demand a trade. Who cares? Rip the bandage off. Let it bleed.

That link is interesting - I don't know who the 2 dudes are but the guy on the right who I assume is the 'expert' is calling for a total rebuild including moving on from Panarin, Fox and Igor. Wow. Is there an appetite within MSG for something that significant? If so, is Drury the right person to oversee it?

JFC: Well you know who LOVES east/west play, don't you? Panarin. I'd argue he's the guiltiest party when it comes to that style of play. Because he's so skilled, however, he's often able to make it work. The problem is when it's not working, he keeps trying. And Laf has bought in huge to Panarin's style so don't be surprised to see the new PP1 play similar to the old PP1.

The replacement coach the guy on YouTube mentioned is Quenneville. He only won the cup 3 times.

And Laviolette finally took my advice and made the Trochek Line into PP1. “ That’s his (Laf’s) line, with Trocheck and Panarin, so those are guys that he’s familiar with playing. It’s a different look. Different set of hands. People are moving into different positions, so we’ll see.” But, I would have put Cuylle there and let the Z line be PP2. One thing the new PP1 cannot do is play the same way the old PP1 did. Just play like it’s 5v5 and have Kreider net front. Get pucks to the net, don’t FORCE East-West passes, on,y use them if it’s clear!

TD - both of those theories can be true. True character isn’t exposed when things are going well….its exposed when there is adversity. That’s when you really expose the core values of a person…pun intended. It’s possible that the excitement of the new season and the fairly easy schedule had them pumped up. But, then when weaknesses began to be exposed & exploited, the GRUDGES were brought to the forefront. Look, I’ve said it, you’ve said it, many of us have said it….never seen anything quite like this before and it has us all in an uproar. We’re trying to explain the unexplainable, although I will say that Laviolette has been a big factor with his vet love and his typical old-school 2-tiered system of punishment/reward. There is a rot in this core…young players don’t get jaded like this unless they think they are being abused…which is what happened to Kakko. The older you get, the more impatient & rigid you get that you know what is best and are unwilling to compromise or adjust….THAT is what happened with this old core IMO…they feel they’ve paid their dues and have the right to ELIMINATE coaches & act out because they are aggrieved, Hell, we’ve seen it with the “players” here on the Wall, myself included! LOL!

E - Those are all great points. Again, STRUCTURE is what is going to win games. While I agree, the Rangers could benefit from adding a tough character to the mix, it is STRUCTURE that is going to change things around here. And I also agree on the speed. They simply don't have much of it in the top nine, and what speed they do have they don't use very well.

And since we're on the core, a rhetorical question for you: WHO KEEPS PLAYING THOSE GUYS IN BIG ROLES? We have a guy behind the bench who absolutely refuses to change things up. It's the definition of madness. He shifts lines occasionally. And now the big new thing is putting LAFRENIERE on PP1. OOOOOOOOHHHHH...BIG CHANGE...Like seriously. How can anyone not see this? The dude keeps playing underperforming players...and that includes EVERYONE from the core...All I read here is KREIDER this and Zshit that...Well, fuck people. That's two. Adam FOX just gets a pure pass. Same thing with TROCHECK because he throws a few hits. And PANARIN. Nobody here even mentioned his eight games without scoring. That's our most expensive player! I mean, FFS. Any coach with balls would've flipped the PPs MONTHS ago. Let PP2 work for a while. Or taken the two struggling centers of the fucking PK. Or cut FOX's minutes. Or done ANYTHING. The dude is seriously asleep at the wheel with his foot on the gas just crashing through trees in a forest. So when we talk about the problem here? Let's start there. You want to get into the core? GREAT! Let's first find a coach who knows how to coach. Because this guy literally doesn't give a shit. Man, I thought GALLANT was bad...LAVIOLETTE is quickly approaching Ron LOW status.

Agreed that NMCs are horrible but these aren't unique to the Rangers. Every team has them ranging from full NMCs (like Zbad's) to partial ones (like Kreider's). It's the cost of doing business in the NHL it seems. The Rangers have 3 full NMCs (Zbad, Panarin and Trocheck) with another (Fox) kicking in July 1st.

JFC31 - See, there's just one problem with that narrative: The Rangers came out of the blocks firing. They had a great pre-season. They had a great START to the season. If you go back and watch the team that beat the PISS out of the Penguins in October, and then watch the one that struggled to beat them in November, it's night and fucking day. In other words, nothing was fucked in camp. Whatever drama there was with TROUBA last summer...and I don't think there was much...was water under the bridge. Ditto with GOODROW. They were fine 12 games in. And even to a degree on the roadtrip west. So sometime between, Nov. 7 and Nov. 21, shit went south. The team that is playing now looks NOTHING like the team that stormed through October. The only thing, in my opinion, that can sink a President's Trophy winning team THAT fast is the guy behind the bench. I'm not trying to absolve DRURY...he's a terrible GM and is culpable for has transpired...but the dude that lit the fuse? He is behind the bench...it's bold-faced and staring everyone directly in the eyes...and yet folks just aren't connecting the dots. Tough to blame the shipping company for the boat sinking when the captain is blasting holes through the hull.

I get players need to have some control but they should be able to be fired (waived) just like a person at a job. They need to be held responsible too. The coach and GM can get fired. These long term contracts are asinine.

Friedmann reported over the weekend that the Rangers and Sabres have been scouting each other.

As I analyze this team I need to point out once again that they are a team that on top of lacking the grind and grit simply seems to lack the speed for the game. I also contend as always that the 1-2-2 is not winning hockey. And when you suck at that as well??? They weren’t good with their structure last seasons for much of the time. The need to be a 2-3 in the o-zone like every good team in the NHL and insure the rotation of the structure stays in place as d-men head down the boards. And while it’s a bit different they were out of position on the PP and got burned for 2 SH goals. I mean you cant make it up. It’s such crap. And yet, still they get boxed out by TB. I suspect tonight you will see a similar situation. And Im sure if they do get down early you can expect the whole thing to cave in. Because thats what happens now.

“Trocheck and Cuylle are two of just six NHL players with more than 10 goals and over 100 hits.” it’s not really the core that’s the problem. It’s the lack of respect and selflessness on the part of all the so called leaders of the Nyr. But I believe it all started with DD drury. When gallant was hired, DD went out and got reaves. The next year he unceremoniously got rid of him. The guy was the muscle and the cheerleader for the team. Unfortunately DD can’t be trusted and doesn’t seem to be a man of his word. And his leadership abilities are lacking along with his experience in being a gm. I’m sure he doesn’t agree. But it’s all about his actions and lack them . My lasting impressions of him as the Nyr captain are not good. He was more interested in going home for the holidays and telling avery not to antagonize uncle daddy. He was a captain with his gloves glued on . And he’s trying to make the Nyr into his image and likeness. He’s basically a snake in the grass. Lardass just seems to be a coach who has lost the fire in his belly and has been doing the job way too long without a lot of success for way too many teams. The recent Goodrow, Trouba, kaapo and Kreider stories are only 4 among over a dozen where DD has been questionable. The culture he has created and perpetuated are typical of Nyr land for way too long except for 1994 which was both great and dysfunctional . The dam needs to be opened or all will drown. That’s up to Dolan and drury. The choice is to be the titanic or the Santa Maria, instead of the ss minnow lost at sea on a 3 hour tour which is now 3 decades, with a history of more than 3 generations. 2026 will be their 100 th anniversary. Many here including myself have been their fans for over half of their history.

HOSPO yep we have a disease called being rangers fans....3 cups in 100 years. 94 was half of the oilers. Messier, Tikkanen, Mctavish, anderson, Buekeboom, Graves, lowe. Sather really stepped in gold no way he was that smart. 1/3 correction. only under bob Gutkowski was there a seriousness to win a cup. Folks we are being misled.

BTW, the Panthers just got humiliated at home two games in a row, shot out twice by TB and Montreal, outscored 8-0...Ya think they are going to be a little pissed coming into the game tomorrow night and/or licking their chops at the thought of playing the heartless Rangers??? Oooh boy, tomorrow night should be fun!

Damn, it feels like we are all little hamsters on our last little legs just spinning and spinning on the Ranger Wheel of woe and chaos...It's Drury! No, it's Laviolette! No, it's the Core!! No, It's all of them in a perfect storm of shit...Over and over and over..accomplishing nothing but also unable to get off...Life as a Ranger fan these days!

Yzerman is very well spoken and analytical. FOLKS DOLAN DOESNT CARE. IF THE Building is empty then he might notice. Drury needs to go but Dolan isn't going to fire him anytime soon. We better get used to it.

I heard they went golfing today but the course was hard so they quit early and went inside to drink a few White Claws.

MC. A month ago lots were laughing at Montreal who were battling for last place. Now? A point behind the Rangers and set to push them to 27th overall.

The pathetic quitters are now 1 point out of last spot in the East conference. That number 1 overall pick is getting closer by the day.

And how do we know that it’s the CORE players who are shitting the bed while,they suck their fucking pacifiers? Because the CORE is POWER PLAY 1, that’s how! The POWER PLAY is what gave this team the ability to compensate for weakness in otger areas. Once PP1 (the Bromance Bros., Panarin, Fox & Trochek) stopped giving a flying fuck, tgere was no more Band-Aiding the weak spots. And let’s face it, Trochek is mainly there tomwin faceoffs, He is not offensively gifted…offensively SOLID…but, not gifted. The PP is supposed to be Zibanejad & Panarin 1-timers, Kreider tipping & screening in front and Fox as the General. Well, Fox has looked like shit all year compared to what we know he can be, the Bromance Bros.have disappeared and Panarin is not able to make up the deficit. The only guy doing his job on PP1 was Trochek…he’s winning face-off just the way he should. It’s the others…the OLD CORE…who have fucked this team.

Nothing to say to LB except, “You’re 100% correct!” I’ve never seen anything like this with the Rangers and I’ve been watching almost 60 years and honestly, it’s heartbreaking. I don’t think it’s funny in any way and spewing hatred doesn’t make me feel any better. Many of us are running out of time and I’ll feel no vindication or delight in whoever loses their jobs or gets fired or gets traded. But, I will say this once again…the coaches coach, the GM makes personnel decision & the players play…or they are supposed to. To give 100% effort and fail because of bad X’s & O’s and /or not having enough talent is no sin. What this core has done is a sin and now it has infected the whole team in a way that probably can’t be cured. Brooks could have taken his column straight from this Wall. Drury’s biggest sin…and it really speaks poorly about Drury’s understanding of human nature and what makes players tic…was trying to force Trouba out and then basically saying, “oh never mind…go back and be Captain.” That was a HORRIBLE mistake but I also think Trouba, instead of seeing what an untenable position he was in and how bad it would be for the team, decided instead to POUT and that reflects horribly on him…especially when added to the fact that he forced his way out of Winnipeg. He is SELFISH and did the same thing when asked to leave…”I’m not going because I want my family to stay in NYC!” And don’t tell me that’s not what happened…he SAID IT numerous times, “I put my family first.” Well, he didn’t think about his SECOND FAMILY now did he? And ya wonder why Adam Fox isn’t rising to,the occasion? Another selfish prick who forced his way off of TWO teams to selfishly get where he wanted to be. You wonder why the core is ROTTEN?

RF4L - That was a fantastic game, TBH, and the US didn't play badly...the BIG difference? One team was rested and the other wasn't. The US continued to wheel, but there were four or five instances...at a bare minimum...where you could tell there was one team that had played a grueling match 24 hours earlier and the other that had a day off. In fact, our boy PERREAULT...he had AT LEAST two shots that normally would've been goals for him...but were just a hair off...one that was at the end of the game, right before Finland scored...just a bit off...this is what fatigue does...and it's one of the reasons...a big reason, actually...that you have the pendulum swinging as wildly as it does...Finland started the tourney off against Canada and lost in a shutout...Canada plays Latvia 24 hours later and has almost a repeat of what happened with the US...Meanwhile, the Fins played Germany, had a night off and then came in the game cool and composed...with one small exception, I can't fault the US at all. They played a very good game against a very good opponent...The ONE fault I had was that Ryan LEONARD decided to call an offsides himself. Started complaining about it, and his whole team stopped. The Fins didn't and scored. Youthful mistake, but a big one, and it probably cost them the game, TBH. Had he just played to the whistle, I don't think the Fins would've scored. Regardless, though, the loss brings Canada right back into it and could put the US in a bad spot. Their game against Canada isn't quite a 'must win' but pretty close. We'll see if Latvia can do to a well-rested Finland what they did to a tired Canada. But assuming that goes to the Fins and the Canadians win? US goes home empty-handed.

Mark: Lots of others which had less skill but I can't recall any others where virtually everyone quit and you couldn't even root for them as underdogs....

Ranger47. This team is close but there were some pretty miserable teams, I’m thinking the Kamensky/Holik years maybe?

I couldve written that article for LB before Christmas so he isn’t profound for pointing out the obvious. Now do I think Laviolette deserves to be fired? No, not at all. But hes lost his team. And this is the problem with pro athletes. They sometimes quit on their coach. And maybe it’s the coaches fault but most often hes just the easiest person to move. I think that the team is in a new place. It cannot win. The top-6 is inadequate. The bottom-6 jas some pieces. The defense is an absolute mess. But they have a goalie. It’s not as bad as it looks but standing at the edge of a cliff and realizing that you cant jump to the other side. The solution is just out of range. Nothing to do about it. They need to be bigger, more physical, and much much faster. Did yall see how TB boxed them out again? Like Florida last season, like TB did two seasons ago. Same thing. No getting inside for the second effort stuff. Take away the cross ice and the Rangers are shooting 1 and done low % shots.

The dynamic duo have done the tarantella on the players heads to the point of depression and the result is anger and revolt with losing as the payback. And they can’t get the trust of the players back because they won’t grovel. It’s beneath their legends in their minds and egos. Especially when the bosses use the 2 rules 1 the boss is always right 2 when the boss is wrong refer to rule number one.

I do not claim originality for this, just passing it along. MSG has put into effect a policy that will not let fans leave the garden without signing a non disclosure form prohibiting them from discussing the massacre they just witnessed.

I believe it's a mutiny against Drury..as long as he is here they won't play..... doesn't matter who the coach is....just my theory ... although laviolett certainly isn't impressing anyone...

Crazy how a college coach with a group of 18-19 year olds…some of whom have never skated together before, can put out a team with 100 times more structure than a guy who has a cup, hundreds of NHL games and a team core that’s been the same for the past five years. Yet another scathing indictment of Laviolette. Hey, maybe the Rangers are waiting for this tourney to end to hire Carle!

I ain't bothering with the dotard's column...but yeah, the team has quit on him. They quit on him two months ago. The 6-1 loss to the Sabres back in November was the beginning of the end. This has been MONTHS in the making. And really, if you want to get down to brass tacks, it started with his shitty coaching in the Conference Finals and then right into the season, where whatever defensives structure he deployed was leading to the goaltender getting shelled for 45-plus shots a night. Failure after failure. Overplaying SHESTY. Overplaying his top centers. Overplaying FOX. Ignoring parts of the machine that were failing until they outright failed. Blaming guys who were blameless. And above all, not adequately preparing his team to compete...Did they quit on him? Yeah, they quit. The quit a long fucking time ago you stupid fuck. Read the room.

KIS - It's mystifying, at this point, how LAVIOLETTE still has a job. The only thing I can think is that the guy they have in mind to replace him is either unavailable at the moment or perhaps with another team...and about to be let go. Even if you have full blinders on and think that the coach is NOT the problem...and that's some next-level ignorance there...you have to do something to shake up the team and get them moving in the right direction. DRURY tried trades...which was stupid. And now that's the only option. Since their last three-game winning streak ended on Nov. 21, the Rangers are 4-14-0, for a .222 winning percentage. To their record in perspective, the Blackhawks, who are the worst team in the league, were 6-10-1 during that stretch(.375 winning percentage)...The Rangers have been outscored 37 to 66(!!) since Nov. 21. And in their losses during this period? They've been outscored 23-58. That's a -35 differential on those losses, and a -29 differential overall. Since TROUBA was traded on Dec. 6, the Rangers have gone 3-8-0(a .272 winning percentage), and are 1-3-0 since KAKKO was traded(a .250 winning percentage). So guess what??! Maybe it wasn't all TROUBA sucking at D and KAKKO being a bust. This is a team that is so fucked right now that they'll never get out of the hole they are in for as long as LAVIOLETTE is coach. There is no lineup change or trade that will improve their fortunes enough to turn things around. Not only has the train gone off the rails and the wheels have fallen off the bus, but both collided with tank of nitroglycerin sitting on top of a metric ton of plastic explosive.

I don’t see how anyone watching the Rangers can disagree with much of Brooks opinions. They look like they have quit.

Lb has lit the match that the rest won’t dare to do…. https://nypost.com/2024/12/29/sports/rangers-have-quit-on-peter-laviolette-it-will-eventually-cost-him-his-job/

When has DD zoom call drury ever done this…. https://www.youtube.com/live/sacBP86K6iE?si=wdgpUc9cwfRv1Gvn

Sure appeared to be a palace coup with Drury gpong behind the backs of JD and Gorton to get them canned. And now we have what we have. Drury looks a lot like Sather…..incompetent, throwing assets away for useless vets at the deadline. Cupboard of draft picks thin. But Dolan never whacked Sather despite his failures and he won’t fire Drury either. The a rangers were a lot better off with JD and Gorton.

After last night more bullshit …. https://youtu.be/nwc3u1HGX24?si=WdFE0azx2PjhZ111

This was his Friday bullshit… https://youtu.be/X3oFY08aQro?si=hVpUsQHus34cMJh5

Dd drury is singing “ there’s no place like home for the holidays “. He’s waiting for the dust to settle, his wife gave him a Dustbuster for Christmas. Santa passed over him. And the hockey gods are warming up in the bullpen.

Maybe Dolan Sr was a Ranger fan and suffered with the way we feel right now! Worst, most unlikable and unwatchable team I've seen since I became a fan in '55.

12 shots on goal we lose. 40 plus shots and we lose. Seasons over Tank for Hagens has replaced LGR. Been watching since 1970 and this is the most disappointing team I have seen. Good thing for Dreery that James Dolan has other issues to deal with

3 points out of last spot in the East conference. I hope Dreary gets a lot of double bogeys today.

After these last 10 disgusting performances, it's the status quo? great, have fun golfing today boys, enjoy the day off, you deserve it! Fuck this team.

The best thing the players can do is to keep losing and lardass will be shown the exit. Maybe Dolan will feel better by canning sardine drury.

I’m not sure if DD drury and lardass even know what type of players they would like to acquire. They just want to throw their dirty water out that another team thinks is clean.

Good organizations are stable but also know when to adjust.. from top to bottom this one demonstrates the inability to adjust... from in game, to when the PP looks as bad as it does, to holding players accountable for continued mistakes on repeat, TOI and relying on vets and punishing kids.. to now obvious to everyone that the coach needs to go .. I have friends asking me why the Rangers haven't canned Laviolette yet.. none are Rangers fans..until that mindset/stubbornness changes .. it is going to be a rough ride

Yes what is happening is puzzling. I can’t see them righting the ship at this point even with a coaching change. Might as well go for the gutter and hope we hit on a high pick. Really wish Drury is not a part of this before the trade deadline. Maybe when Dolan gets through dealing with his father’s death/funeral/etc. let’s see. We get to look forward to watching our Ranger vet no-shows to maybe show up for the 4 nations tourney? Who fucking cares? LOL

Hospo. I said this previously: I think Lardiolette is resigned to his fate and almost looking forward to it. He's 60 and been there down that multiple times and sees no problem getting axed and going home to enjoy his money. The stress involved in doing anything truly drastic like pressboxing Z and K for an extended period of games he is not interested in experiencing. His boss with those crappy deals and apparent attitude towards the players have only worsened an already bad situation. He, in other words, ultimately wants to be fired.

Hells: Igor is tradeable until July 1st when his new deal kicks in. If Dreary stays it's doubtful Igor is moved before then but a new boss might have a different strategy. If I was put in charge I'd certainly seriously consider shopping him.

How lo g until lavi is fired. You cant have your star goalie getting so frustrated he goes directly to the locker room. Apparently there are some players that are getting upset over the "lets not give a shit " mantra from the core

Sorry for besmirching/questioning the opinions of others on here...I never do that ...but got caught last night regarding Drury..This is one fucked up situation in Rangerland but no excuse.......OK, until Laviolette is fired or the next pennies for Dollars flaying of the Rangers trade by Drury, what next?...Is LAVIOLWETTE that stuoid and unaware that his only response is to double down on his decomposing vets and minimize the energy provided by kids like Chytl, Cuylle and Berard like he did last night? Tomorrow night should be interesting

Igor's contract not only has a full NMC, but is also composed of mostly signing bonuses rather than base salary. Bonuses can't be bought out. That means that Igor won't be bought out since there is virtually no cap benefit to a buyout. He will be with the Rangers through the 2032-33 season. The best hope for moving him would be a Roy type demands for a trade if his relationship with ownership and the fan base sours in the next few years. But he has all the cards to play. Mika's deal has most of the same features as does Fox's. They are only leaving if the choose to. I think those were all deals made by Drury. He is excellent at painting himself into a corner and negotiating against himself.

https://nypost.com/2024/12/29/business/charles-dolan-founder-of-cablevision-and-hbo-dead-at-98/

Hospo. That he and Lardiolette still have their jobs is beyond befuddling. What is Dolans waiting for? One can only hope it's because he's searching outside the organization for a viable Dreary replacement and without Nob for Life around his lack of insider NHL experience is causing that search to take time.

It honestly boggles my mind that good, smart people on here are defending Drury nd willing to have him plan the future and acquire the players to win...Just take a look and review wjhat that numbnutz nimrod has done and hasn't done since HIS Patrick Kane fiasco which ruined one year..And his ineptitude and inability to read players, teams, and opponents has ruined this year..In between was last year's run which was built on players somebody else acquired and not players he brought in pre-season or at the deadline...nd lets not forget he brought in two coches with a shelf life of less than 2 years...ANyways, He will be the death of the relevance of this organiztion..unless and until he is let go..The only credit he should get, if anything, is for bambooziling a clueless owner to trust him for whatever insane load of shit he has shoveled....

Listen to lardass from before last night’s game. He’s talking cya cliche bullshit…he’s changed and adjusted the system? ….https://nypost.com/2024/12/28/sports/rangers-come-out-of-holiday-break-flat-and-suffer-ugly-loss-to-lightning/

Andrei the players have reacted negatively to DD drury and their complicit coach. That doesn’t absolve them from being a part of the problem. But the cause has created the effect. This has to be brought to a head and dealt with. Since there is no perfect world in Nyr land , it has to start with firing the coach. He should not be here for the rest of the season. If DD drury takes the path of dealing more players and keeping the coach, then Dolan has to fire the kingpin of this disaster. Hopefully he doesn’t just fire him as the gm but stranger things have happened. For the Nyr to spin out of control down the porcelain oasis points to captain of the titanic drury. This team for the last 3 seasons has had over 100 points. The way they are going now they’ll be lucky to get 75 . The answer to the game of clue is the vest did it with a memo not the butler with a tray full of money. That memo was one of the dumbest things a gm has ever sent out. And he can’t blame trottier and his crayons, sather and his cigar, donutson and fishboy for it. This is the result of a gm in training flunking out and finally being exposed who deserves karma for his self absorbed actions. They should have let him go to Pittsburgh for Crosby to deal with. In that hypothetical scenario he would have tried to trade their 3 horsemen of their apocalypse and fired Sullivan for not kissing his ring and ring steak. This clusterfuck has to be undone. Drury doesn’t have the balls nor the ability to take over as coach, which should be a prerequisite to become a gm . And a coach in the NHL should be a former NHL player for longer than at least five years and experience from being an assistant coach before graduating. The Nyr hire too many guys with a gap in their resumes. Qualifications and experience matter before being hired into the NHL if an owner wants to succeed and make more money than usual, instead of a write off or an adult toy .

Good fucking lord. Now DRURY “had” to sign SMITTY Jr.?! Man, this is Bluelinestation-level BS. There were BETTER players who were younger, cheaper, AND free agents. In fact, there are guys performing a lot better than him that cost a shitload less. SMITTY Jr. was acquired based almost solely on the fact he had a cup ring and DRURY thinks that’s a quintessential component of winning a cup for some odd, inexplicable reason(see: Sammy BLAIS, GOODROW, RUHWEDEL). Dubas was weighing whether to buy him out when Captain Clutch offered to take him off his hands. As I mentioned, goddam. Stefan NOESEN was out there for a million less…AND with hardly any term…AND he didn’t cost a fucking second rounder. OH and the best part of that stupid fucking deal?! It necessitated trading TROUBA for one…oh…and BTW? They also had a fucking winger in OTHMANN who could’ve taken that spot…at least if they had a coach who was even halfway interested in playing young players in prominent roles. So don’t give me this shit about SMITTY Jr. being a necessary evil. Oh and also don’t give me any business about some crazy game of 3D chess DRURY is playing trying to pace the way for MARNER or RANTANEN. Both guys are gonna demand contracts in excess of $10 million. Not only would that be a seriously stupid move for a team expecting PERREAULT in a season and who are flushed organizationally with wings…but…you’d need to be a seriously stupid GM to be clearing cap space to sign someone who is seven months away from free agency. Like if there IS a GM thinking that way? He doesn’t belong in the NHL. DRURY is a bad GM, but he’s not totally braindead.

What happens when you move from disgraceful to disgusting? Are we waiting for McDavid to fall from the sky if he doesn't extend with EdM in July and plays 2025 as a lame duck? That would leave us with $11 in cap space to fill out a roster with him and Shesty. Sounds legit. Raise ticket prices. The shareholders are getting cranky.

Pack lose both weekend games. More mediocrity from dreary. My God he's shit in his job...

Yep trade Igor now we are done for his knows how long might be 10 years like it was with sather....why pay Igor to lose. Might as well give up 8 goals what's the dam difference......Igor has to know what is going on. A rebuild or a retool .. he has to know ? Doesn't he??

Dolans father past away....to bad got the wrong Dolan .......I know I should not say these things

Andrei. Seriously asking, what young core? Cuylle, Schneider, Igor is not that young, you can’t seriously count on Chytil, and Laffy. Not too sure about the rest at this point and not sold at all in the 11.5 million dollar baby.

Please , please, haven’t we learned that the NYR can’t build a team buying UFAs. But they can’t build a team through the draft either! Oh man when is pitchers and catchers?

Hospo, odds are actually that both will hit the UFA status and those odds are good. I'm not claiming that Rangers will sign both or even one of them, but cap room flexibility provides a lot of options. Whether it is a major future trade or two or UFA signing, or both, Drury will not be starting another rebuild. There is a young core here already to build around. Just need to get right pieces to fit around it.

Gotta can Laviolette... you have some young talented players that are being wrecked by this mess.. the vets .. who cares... out of the PO's your a seller at the deadline.. get rid of the deadwood.. and re set .. but the longer u wait with this lame duck coach the more damage you do

andrei - this morning I posted something very similar…” Maybe part of the plan is to look towards future UFA’s to get what he wants and he told Dolan that he’d have to be patient, he’d win him some PO games but the ultimate goal is in the near future.” I don’t think Drury intended or expected this shit to deteriorate like this but he has made Dolan a lot of money with his playoff runs and it could very well be that he simply wants cap space to sign a couple of big name UFA’s. If so, let’s hope he does it better than Neil Smith and his Magic Mystery Tour did…

CUYLLE least amount of ice time since early Novemebr while the apathetic finesse prancers gobble up the ice time..Great job by Drury in building a heavy cup contender and great job by Laviolette in doubling down on the guys afraid of their own shadows and the crease..More please, i want to see more agaist FLA! Not...

ooops..incompetent not incontenent ..but Drury sure has pissed away any chance of the Rangers winning in the near term!

ANdrei - Other teams will stop the Rangers from signing a Rantannen..a Marner...odds are they will be extended or..rangers get beat out in FA to cities with better tax deals..At the least, you do not count on signing any big FA and build a winner in other ways..It's not up to me or you, what that time table is..nor do either of us know what is going on in the mumbled jumbled brain of the incontenent Drury

if you had a business, hired a manager that tanked your business as quickly as this .. you would not be sittin on your hands like this.. i mean it's crazy what we are witnessing .. the origination is committing harakiri in slow motion ..

ANDREI - I don't blame everything on DRURY but, to me, he gets the lion's share of the blame..Every GM deals with the Cap so don't bring that shit up...For over two years of off-season and in-season moves, Drury has been beyond inept in making the Rangers a better team since the Kane fuck-up....And the last 4-5 months have been team and locker room killing moves/manipulations........Maybe a good coach could have rescued this team from the ashes with better ice time and roster management but Laviolette has struck out every which way and has fallen back on the same old same old which has failed miserably...And then there's the players...I know you want to blamme the players because you can then say how good your crushes IGOR and Panarina are but the truth is that the players do share in the blame of this melt down, unable to rise above, improve their games as indivduals...but when 80% of the roster is playing worse and worse by the game (Including ALL of the kids), something else further above is going on

vcp, let’s see how many more game Krappo will get playing those minutes without producing, before his minutes are reduced and he is shifted around between lines. Must be Seattle coaching that is to blame for that one for not properly understanding his greatness! BTW, you forgot 1 hit. Great stats, 2+ min on PP, zero across and 1 hit…

Where is this if we tank, and clean house, Rangers will miss the playoffs for the next decade is coming from? What will stop Drury from signing Rantanen or Marnier as a UFA, or both, if they hit the market. Tanking is not my plan, but it’s the only thing left this season is to look forward to the lottery. Playoffs are gone. One more loss in Florida on Monday, and Rangers will need to go .750 or above rest of the way, just make the wild card. Who wants to bet on that?

Hospo, again, blame everything on Drury. Hope that helps with the pain. I get the notion that as a fan, we need to pin point our anger at someone. I hear you. Just like you I’m frustrated with this team, but at the same time, I also see the impact of the salary cap and this all over the team. Reason why Smith was chosen is because he had a year left on his contract, experienced vet, someone who could be a good fit on ZShit’s line and he is very good PK . Regardless of what we think, idea was to let the same team get another crack at the Cup. Drury obviously did not wanted to bring in a salary with term, just like he did knew that next season cap would have been a major issue due to Lafr, Shesti, Miller, Lindgren’s and other pending RFA’s. Again, team’s depth at certain positions in NHL is a pure fantasy. Most cap teams are very, very thin depth wise. So it’s not just Rangers “issue”. It’s a salary cap issue. Like I said, not my plan. It was the organisational plan.

RHET - I didn’t think we would ever win a lottery. Then we won two. It’s not the winning the lottery that I am worried about. It’s - who are we getting, what will we do with them, and what will they do for us? So far the results are very, very shitty.

Tdchi kakko had no goals,assists or shots ....just saying...I was against the trade. Drury fired yet lololol no laughing matter because Dolan is disconnected just like when sather missed the playoffs for 9 or 10 years in a row ... Drury is not getting fired.neither is laviolett....need an empty building then maybe....who knows. Can we get a therapist to join the wall

Serious question..Does IGOR have a NT/NM in his new contract? If he does, does it start next summer or has it started already?...Becasue if Andrei is right, which i doubt, and the Rangers are just going to tank and play for 2032...why would IGOR want to be here and what good would he be for a ranger team in tear down mode......You want to hit bottom and rebuild, you deal Panarina, IGOR nd Fox....I can't see the Rangers going anywhere near a rebuild......Just wait to see the the prospects/kids for vets deals that will likely occur instead....but only after Lard Ass is canned.

Yep. DRURY has been owning this season. You heard it here from andrei. Man dude, your thick.

LIMBO - Great? No..no team in the NHL team was last year..FLA was good and tottaly built for the POs..The Rangers were good all year, I don't care whether it was come from behind or blitzing from the start, they got the the job done...But lost to a better PO team when it mattered....I don't think they would have lost to anybody else last year...But, the GM did nothing to get better this year ....The internal meltdown is a totally different animal and i think it was a perfect storm of shit initiated by the GM but contributionss from everywhere that then took on a life of it's own..JMWO

ANDREI - Individual deals mean jack shit..it's what a GM does to make a roster and team better including deals, treatment of players, knowing his players, knowing his club house, having depth, bringing in the needed elements (like the great Reilly Smith and Chad Ruwhedeo before the crap Troub and Kakkao deals).DRURY has been a total failure for a long time and it all came home to roost this season..no toughness, no size, no cengter depth, no D depth, no chemistry,

KAKKO got 18 minutes tonight in Seattle. Can someone find me the last time he got those minutes in New York?

It's not like we are losing close games.. we are gettin blown out game after game... and the team is lost... cannot comprehend how Laviolette still has a job .. the biggest do over I'd wish for .. hiring Knoblach, he was homegrown in the system and Drury went for another retread

Btw, this draft is really strong at the top, which end at the top 5. Rest of the draft is weak. Rangers really need to be in top 5. There are some impressive kids there. 1st pick is nice, but Rangers are not winning it.

Dear Glen Sather; Please call up your good buddy James Dolan and tell him he needs to fire Chris Drury. Please and thank you.

PJ, disagree on Borgen, though he was fine. Miller? That’s another story all together. If you think that Jones would have maid any difference tonight? Where? Two goals given up on PP, two shorties. That’s a game right there.

Fantasy over reality. Fantasy, Trouba was giving away. Reality, Drury did a FANTASTIC job trading a diminished quality player with year plus left on a $8 mil contract, without eating part of the salary, without giving up picks and on top of it, getting picks back. But then again, what do I know. Some people know it all. Maybe instead of writing here, they should be beat writers with all that bottomless hockey knowledge that they bestow on us, worthless souls…

Andrei…Rangers didn’t miss Jones tonight?…What game are you watching?…Borgen and Miller an absolute disaster together…Oh and nice to see Laff bury his point blank chance on the PP…

This team is the epitome of the old saying, if we didn't have bad luck, we'd have none at all.

Here’s a point that hasn’t been made (I think)…maybe this team/core just wasn’t ever that good. Like ever. It took a TUBA elbow to CROSBY + a 3rd string goalie and then an all time epic 3rd period by CK to extend their last 2 long PO runs. We all know what happened against the debbies. NYR had 30 come from behind victories last year. Hey, sounds great, right? Never say die. Never give up. Shows a lot of character, right? But, it begs the question…why the fuck was such a “great” team always behind? Maybe the simplest answer is the correct one….they never were that “great” to begin with. Gives a plausible answer to the question - what the hell happened this year?

Sick pass by Lafr to Kreider that he somehow muffled on. PP looked better without ZShit on it, but at this point, i would remove Kreider off the PP1 as well.

Tdchi for trouba it was a salary dump which is not terrible. .....I unfortunately the locker room is.

1992-1993 except we have no leadership to stand up and say anything.....issues is the the core sucks and the coach sucks and the GM sucks and the owner sucks lololol..good news is we do have some good pieces but no GM ...... Drury can't build a team we know that.... Well the first period was good.....as bugs Bunny would say.....that's all folks

Shonuff - see, I don’t think this roster is nearly as bad as its record. I’ve said my part about DRURY. I cut bait with him after TROUBA got moved for dogshit. And if there was any going back on that, he burned his bridge with me after dealing KAKKO. But this team…but ultimately? Yes. LAV shoulda been given the ultimatum back in November and then canned. So that IS on DRURY…but I will say: if LAV gets canned…and at this point, I hope he doesn’t, because I really want Jimmy HAGENS…but in the extreme likelihood he is fired in the next week…or tomorrow…you will see this team rebound.

TDCH - You are not the only one that knows hockey on here..and it is not all on the coach..This is Drury's team..Everything was set in motion by the GM..a team he ripped to shreads drom the inside (GM)....But also a coach that had no clue how to mange nd motivate such a team, neither vets or kids in such an evironment...EVERY FUCKING KID IS PLAYING WORSE ND WORSE..So yeah, Laviolette needs to go tonight

I actually feel bad for Zibanejad. The guy desperately needs a change of scenery. I realize he's under contract for another five years with a no move clause that he negotiated for, but I can't imagine he's enjoying this. I hope he can accept a trade, but I have no idea where he would go. Move Vesey for a 4th, Lindgren for a 3rd or 4th, Borgen for a 2nd and 4th, retain on Smith and trade him for a 2nd. The big hockey trade (if Drury can do one of those) is Miller. I'm not sure where he goes, but they have to look at a young center in return I think. Maybe there is something there for Cozens, but with Dahlin and Power on the left side, I don't think there's room for Miller. Perhaps they go back to Seattle and look at Shane Wright or Berkley Catton or maybe something with Chicago for Frank Nazar. I want to say that they should move out Chytil to bring in a defenseman. At the deadline, they'll need to flex their cap space muscle by helping to facilitate trades for other teams and picking up some picks in the process. I just don't think there's any salvation for this team. They're an utter mess.

Even with the change, we're still trying to force it in from the left side of the goal. Instead, how about we try something different?

Also Ovi scored . Guy is like 56 and he broke his leg and scored a goal in 5 weeks .

Oh look. ZIBANJAD, the root of all evil, is taken off the PP…and it still sucks! Wow, what a surprise.

TD : you mean the coach Drury hired ? It’s the GM he just got a 1 year hall pass apparently with special teams and Igor .

I would imagine that Laviolette knows he is gonna be told to fall on his sword for this debacle. But it’s bad. This is a terrible hockey team. It’s not the sum of its parts but some of its parts aren’t worth what they were either.

What makes this all horrifically suck is as usual like every other time in my life … When the Devils are good there is no eastern conference power . We knew all season last year it was Florida . Yeh that gone

I really like Borgen. Let’s hope some of that physical play will rub off on Miller. You know who Rangers did not miss tonight? Jones. Feel for that kid.

Hospo we all agree maybe as bad as it gets . They aren’t losing enough to get the first overall they are gonna fall in Lias Anderson land again or some winger that will show potential in 2031 .

At least BORGN gets mad and takes action, I'l give him that...Wish MIller would get off his meds and do the same..

Let’s hope Vancouver isn’t watching this game and are still hard after BORGEN.

Limbo, I have said it before ZSit was resigned that he should be traded and that Ranges will regret that contract. But I also believe that I was not alone in that. That’s said, I can totally see why it was done since he was a top 15 center at the time of signing.

And why are we seeing the same warmed over vet shit shift after shift in a game like tonight?..Just play the bottom six and fuck the rest of these schmucks..Laviolette a clueless dead man coaching

Shonuff - But look what DRury got for Goodrow, Troubs, Kakkao!!...and the other players with heart and guts that he brought in at last years deadline and this past off season? Hedll, all the great moves he made since Patrick Kane fiasco

Drury needs to go yeserday..but that ain't happening...The players that you want to deal have little value..That leaves the coach..Do it before the FLA game...

It’s a bad dream I almost feel like Trouba , Kakko and Goodrow are injured . Maybe Drury is a weirdo like silence of the lambs . Someone speaks out against him he goes home and puts lipstick on in front of a mirror and dances and calls GM’s

Where is Mr. Know-it-all, you know the guy who used to post here 100 times per day saying how great this team is? Is he Dreary?

Kreider has 1 assist in 30 games and Fox has 1 goal . This is the core . I can’t believe this .

Wholly shit, ZBAD actually went near the crease!! Of course he got knocked on his ass by a gentle breeze, but hey..

I really question at times if Miller understands the difference between 'strong side' and 'weak side'.

ALSO: In regard to LAVI: it's easier to fire the coach than it is the players.... and with this GM, you really don't want to depend on him to bring back equal value.

NEWFIE - It flat out sucks!..I gave up Basketball a long time ago..Foogtball is unwatchable to me..The Rangers are it.....Following your rhetorical question... How in the world does the 2nd best team in hockey last year, one that clawed and fought for each other and their coach all year devolve into this?? Why do they play like they don't care? Like this is the first preseason game of the year? Liek they want to get their coach and inepy turdfce GM fired?

Drury fired ???? Hell .. let him coach this mess out front . He made it let him coach it .What a disgrace . I have never seen a team go down like this without major injury . Drury doesn’t even have to talk to the media . Insanity

Andrei - that is fine, but, instead of us fans that literally can do nothing…can you please send SHESTY the memo? Add a PS to put his pansy ass on the end of the friggen bench like he paid to do. Not sure if it was you or someone else that said that ZBAD will never win a cup here, especially with that contract. I’ll double down on that. The SHESTY contract was a complete disaster. It will fuck the org for the life of it. And we will never win a cup until it is up. At least we got a couple years out of ZSHIT and he was decent in the playoffs (way better than the overpaid and disappearing PSHIT). We will be fucked from that goalie contract from day ONE. Runs away to the locker room? GTFOH. Literally, leave. I wish DRURY had the nuts to do the hard work and trade an almost 30 y/o goalie and maybe get back a core that doesn’t blow. I know, I know….that is WAY too much to ask from from this fucking org.

BTW: How did Kucherov not get suspended for the Tkachuk injury? Make this league make sense.

Rhetorical question.....but how in the HELL did it come to this with this team. My Ranger blood is boiling over.At my age ,I should be sitting back watching and enjoying my life long favorite NHL team and relaxing. NOT !

The blod for this totl teamwide diseae/meltdown is ll on Drury's hands....but...guys like Kreider and ZBAAD are now untradeable disgraces. with others not fr behind..Will Cuylle, the only forward with balls tht can, got less ice time than 7 other forwrds..Oh wait, that becsue there were so many PPs and PKs and lord knows we need to play Kreids, ZBAD, Tro, Panarina, on and on and on

Stevie, absolutely not. There is plenty of blame to go around and he absolutely should not be the coach next season, but this season is on players.

So do we lose every game on the season ..I need to put more down on rangers losing I can make a fortune

Stevie........he actually went to the room to check his phone just to make sure his last cheque entered his account........

And this is much more than giving up and playing for the top draft pick (please God, if so, get what you can for_pout face Panarina, the only chip left)..this is about somehow finding a trace of heart and guts on these 20 bozos and try to put together a TEDAM that plays for each other... Drury has already failed once on this, ripped what there was to shredds, and he's the guy to move the orgnizgtion forward??? Christ, we are fucked!

PJ - Only a brain dead moron or a self serving job saving prick would have kept Fat Country after the Devil debcle...Unfortunately..the worthless, pathetic Drury is both

If Drury cannot "read the writing" now.... then this team is going to be bad for a long time... is he stupid or stubborn ?

Small potatoes, but love watching Reilly Smith on the ice to remind me of one of the many great DRURY trades..And that Finninsg Fuck Flop on D....And that 8 year contratc for ZBAD..and 11.5 mill on a hot head goalie whi=o is totally worthless for his team

We would have to depend on the bounce of a ping pong ball to get a decent lottery pick. I'm not liking our luck this season at all.

Andrei you want to absolve lardass ? You go play for him. He rarely holds anyone accountable. Players are not innocent, but this guy is a stubborn jackass . And he’s going to get guys traded and then he gets fired.

I’m so glad to hear two clowns laughing on the broadcast. Nice d by Borgen btw. Clean house needs to include Joe . Just can’t listen to his voice anymore..

Shazam went to the locker room to scream and cry. Now he’s in the runway hiding his red eyes

Man, I would be skating the third and fourth line…that’s it. I’d bench FOX for the rest of the game too.

They telegraphed the pass and everyone in the arena knew where it was going. Just Awful.

Folks need to realise that season is done and it is all about high lottery pick now and it will start to make sense on why Lavi is still a coach for this team. Again, regardless of the noice constantly blaming coaching, it’s the players, just like it were the players playing a great 1st period and same players shit the bed in the 2nd. Same players needs to be replaced in order to move forward.

Might as well tank and get as high a pick as u can ... other teams have been able to reset .. look at the Craps this year .. but little confidence that Drury has the smarts to orchestrate it

So not a blocked shot but pass never got to Z’s stick….Really doesn’t matter…

The only thing this team had going all year was The Kid line..God they were a joy to watch..Now look whaat the fuck Drury and Laviolette have doen to them individally aand collectively.....It's FUBAR

Memo to DD drury there is one good coach in this game. And Shazam should be suspended for his baby shit of going to the locker room.

What do you expect when your inept GM adoes nothing fter the Devils debacle..annd the out of touch Coach's response is to play rhe main culprits of the decay more than ever....Bog fucking deal they played one good period....every team does...They are a fucking mess from head to toe and deserve this embarrassment and so much more

Time to switch away. This is pathetic. Honest to god. One period and then disaster.

Total mess .. what other organization would continue with this without making a coaching change.. should have happened a couple weeks ago... we are the laughing stock of the league now

Andrei- guess I misread this post: “Just freeken amazing how ZShit finds way to break his stick. Just imagine if that was Lafr in that spot on PP, puck is in and it is Rangers leading 2-1.” I get the second part but sounds like blaming him for the broken stick. Whatever. Whole team including Laff sucks right now!

Stevie, agreed. No team in the salary cap era has won the Cup with their goalie as their highest paid player. We have a $11.5 million a year goalie with no team in front of him.

I honestly can’t be sure Shesterkin isn’t throwing games at this point he looks so bad. Fucking trade him. We can loose like this with anyone in net. The entire organization needs to be gutted. I am truly embarrassed and angry to be a fan of this shit.

Such great leadership from the owner to the GM to the coach to the gutless leaders on the ice. Lardass is doing a good job chewing gum though!

Why did SHESTY go to the locker room? Get the hell on the bench! YOU will be making more than any goalie ever. YOU wanted to be here. YOU wanted the insane NMC that dummy gave you. Unless he is hurt, which I doubt, Stay the fuck on the bench!

So glad we have the sleep wlking Kreider and the finesse Fox instead of Troubs fighting in the crease on the PK..Again..Laaurel and hardy have fucked this team big time...

They come out strong and still fall behind….Then it seems as if they say the hell with it…I mean how is Laviolette still here?…..

They have to fire the cosch. I just turned the game off i cant watch that rubbish. Just horrible the whole thing is out of whack. Who can they bring in as coach. Something must be done

Memo to DD drury you don’t need an $11.5 million goalie. You didn’t get that memo ?

CM, I’m not blaming ZShit on a broken stick, but blaming him on the a completely useless work on the PP, including famous slap shot that you see coming miles away.

No reason at all to watch. Clean house ASAP. No need to wait any longer. From Dreary on down.

PK was a fucking mess. Man. NO box. At all. Structure just immediately collapsed.

Yes Z should have come off the PP long ago….This is some of the most bizarre crap I have ever seen…

This team has no mojo. They are so concerned about missing the net they pass and pass more than they did last year. Special teams are just awful. Don’t understand what happened to the third best unit last year? And unless Shesty is brilliant there is no chance as every mistake (and there are lots) is in the net.

Again. For the umpteenth time: THIS IS A COACHING PROBLEM. Team absolutely came out with energy. But just awful execution. Putting the same guys out, overskating them…stupid, stupid.

MC - I don't "love" MIller..but thought he had become so much more physical late last year..but this year back to the pussy he was....That's the worst partof this Ranger disease and decay..all the young guys have been affected and are playing worse and worse...agaain, great job Dick Weed and Lard Ass

Unwatchable- 0 to like about this team. SCHNEIDER is really the only player im invested in.

Way to go lardass . Your prayers for an early retirement are looking very likely

Six finesse forweards in the top six..4 Finesse forwards on the top PP unit....Drury and Laviolette are just brilliant

I know many here love Miller but I think he is a soft pussy, one of many on this team. Hurry up and trade him before the rest of the league realizes how bad he actually sucks. Yup, Keep putting Z out on the powerplay you fat dip shit. And Shesty sure as hell isn't helping.

Can’t “blame” Shesty on that shorty but he did not play it aggressively the way he usually does…he didn’t explode across he just slid passively. Usually he goes AT where he thinks the pass will arrive. Ugh…

The fold by the vets continues..These guys fucking blow...Good job over the break Dipshit and Fat Ass!

Rangers answered the ? how they would respond.. game over quickly in the 2nd.. Laviolette cannot survive much longer ..c an he

You know, when you telegraph the slapper, it's not going to be very effective. More often than not, we telegraph it. Just saying.

TDCHI - I am seeing the same thing you are seeing in BORGEN..he blows...so does the MIller-Borgen pairing..And the 4th hd their thumb up their ass also

Andrei- I know you hate Z but blaming him for a broken stick? A little over the top!

Assist should go to Miller. First good hit on Borgesn and then a nice turn over that left a front of the net wide open.

And somehow I think EDsgrom had a taliking too and is finally playing like his job depends on it

I seriously have zero ide what y’all are seeing in Will BORGEN. That is like the tenth time I’ve seen him abused.

Andrei - You can say it all you want, doesn't matter..what matters is what happens on the ice...he has plaayed soft as shit for a long time...good game tonight so far..it's a start

Hospo, said it weeks ago about Edstrom, it’s very common for kid's in their first full season to fade away around November till January due to intense scheduling that they are not used to. He is sure starting to look better.

PJ, not many. But I bet, he wont miss it from that spot. Will never know though since it is ZShit on 1st PP and not Lafr. Have to give it to Lavi, he sure finds a way to double down on already double down.

Rhet…Agreed it’s crazy…Fox played the SH goal well and forced a shot that Igor normally stops with one eye open…

A heartbeat for sure ..... Best period this season .....some really bad luck though.

The NYR's still have zero puck luck. I can't believe that Chytil shot didn't go in.... What is there to say on that awful shorty given up by Igor. HORRENDOUS.

Totally outworked Tampa in the 1st. All lines contributed, but could not convert on few good chances, and abysmal PP strikes again. Bet Cooper will get his message across and will see a different Tampa in the 2nd. Just freeken amazing how ZShit finds way to break his stick. Just imagine if that was Lafr in that spot on PP, puck is in and it is Rangers leading 2-1. Fox looks better tonight.

Let's see if they fold..or show soem guts...Laviolette defientely back to leaning on his vets that have worked so well this year!

It looked like the PP was getting a chance and then it bounced over Kreiders stick and it’s a 4-1. This shit didn’t happen last year, or at least if it did the team would come back

Best period in ages.. out play the Bolts and still end up behind... the monkey is still firmly on their backs...if it can go wrong it does..

I thiught much better period and effort than what has happened all season but god. Shesty come up woth that save. Thats a shit goal

The vets really showed their stuff and heart on that PP..Not!! .They are so fucking hard to watch

I should have placed money. Smh. Too bad, pretty good period but special teams are in disarray

This is the best period in st least a month. We’ll see if they can keep it up.

CM - Spot on about the wh Laviolette treats different players..will only lead to the sirl..That said, they have played well this period...and for the first time all year Gentle Ginat Hermn Munster..er..Adam Edstrom has impressed me as a 4th liner...Now..hopefully we can find a way not to minimize Cuylle and Chytl..but that's where we are likely heading...That, and all the publicity will be focused on Panarin..

Nice goal .. imagine when u get off the perimeter and attack the net .. caught the Bolt player puck watchin .. more please..

Rangers actually playing their best game in month tonight. Even ZShit’s line is engaging the play and shoots at every possible angle. Actually like Borgen. Let’s see if they can like this for 60 minutes.

Agreed Carrick deserves benching, but that’s the problem. He hasn’t done this enough with Z and P or Miller or Fox. I get it, those guys are more important but those guys have been brutal either way no repercussions

Offense defense pp and pk all a disaster. At least they are consistently bad in all parts and zones.

2 pm 2, point blows past Miller like he’s a traffic cone and 17 doesn’t cover Kucherov

Kreider takes that shot..and isntead of going anywhere near the net, ZBAD peels to the side w..what a pussy..

We are in Florida so maybe Esposito can un retire and sign for a week and blow the team up old school ???Been watching since the early 80’s and it is very strange to watch this front office let this team go without doing anything. For better or mostly worse we have had decades of the team getting gutted when it’s like this . All strange it’s not like there is a Crosby in this draft .

PJ - don’t think they keep TOI stats, but CARLE absolutely rolled everything. Kept shifts short and the pace quick. That was a master class in coaching. The assclown getting the big bucks in New York should maybe pay attention.

That goal has nothing to do with anything except Carrick being a moron…has nothing to do with anything elsr

LOl nothing changes.. dumb penalty and Miller gettin smoked to the outside for an ez goal

Didn’t Drury once famously say he wasn’t going to let the team losing ruin his Christmas. Wonder if he could still say that today?

RF4L - 6-2 Bolts. Rangers give up a goal in the first two minutes. Rinse, repeat. Onward to the HAGENS sweepstakes!

That’s a fantastic deal for the Avs. Juuso PARSSINEN is a good young center with size and physicality. Essentially got him for a third rounder. Rangers coulda used a kid like this.

Any predictions on the score tonight? Mine is 4 2 Tampa. Bolts BTW 7 and 3 in their last 10. They are 6 points out of first in the east with a bunch of games in hand. No easy opponent here. I mean Tampa not the Rangers...

Drew FORTESCUE, BTW, probably isn’t far from the NHL. He’s a very solid defender. Actually reminds me a little of LINDGREN.

RF4L - the more I see of HAGENS, the more my hope is this season really is toast, the Rangers lose 30-35 more games and get the top draft position. If that’s the play, maybe we’ll see a reverse DRURY, and a sell off of SMITTY, BORGEN, LINDGREN, VESEY, CARRICK, RUHWEDEL, and maybe MILLER and KREIDER. THAT would get us pole position in the next couple drafts.

Likewise, Danny NELSON and Cole EISERMAN are NOT gonna be fun to watch on the Islanders…

TD. It's their only reasonable strategy. BTaw so many kids on the US and Canadian teams selected in 2nd and 3rd rounds. Too bad idiot Dreary views them like yesterday's stale bread. Hutson was a 2nd rounder.

I do not like the fact that the Capitals will have Cole HUTSON and Ryan LEONARD in the very near future…also, I would trade just about anything for a chance to have LEONARD-HAGENS-PERREAULT as a line next season.

Halfway through the game and they’ve all but neutralized the LEONARD-HAGENS-PERREAULT line…though they just scored on the PP…

RF4L - dude, they are playing really boring hockey, but I’ll be damned if it’s not effective. Just solid, real good defensive hockey. They’re playing 5-on-5 like it’s the penalty kill, and there’s just nowhere to shoot. Wish the Rangers would watch this…

Man, I don’t know what the fuck is going on with Latvia, but this collection of no names is pretty good. Get the distinct feeling they’re rope-a-doping the U.S.

TD. An incohesive Canada effort, strong goaltending for Latvia and hard work by the skaters overall especially in their own end. Canada had almost 3 x times as many shots but tons from the perimeter.

I know it's just the first round and all...but holy SCHNIKIES...A shootout loss for the Canadians against...LATVIA?! Man, US is about to play them and I'm wondering what's what.

Hospo - my take on DRURY and LAVIOLETTE is that they're really hoping that whatever malaise is impacting the Rangers will lift in the second half...DRURY...and PLEASE don't take this as a defense of him...really has his hands tied. Everyone in the league sees how desperate the Rangers are for a spark. Teams in the middle are laughing, because they're giving organizations like the Jackets, Penguins and Flyers hope for a post season. Even the Senators and Lighting are loving it, because this means a prime wildcard slot is up for grabs...And in the Western Conference, which has the three worst teams in the league...with exception to maybe the Preds, they're all waiting to dump players at the deadline...so there's no rescue via trade. Would take a GM of CHIARELLI proportions to trade anything other than pennies on the dollar for the Rangers...DRURY's only real hope is that someone like OTHMANN or maybe LABA or one of the NCAA prospects rises to the occasion and brings a bit of youthful exuberance to the mix...So he's basically got his hands off the wheel...and LAVIOLETTE? That dude totally knows how fucked he is right now...and his approach is that he's hoping and praying that whatever funk these guys have is fleeting...maybe a matter of getting old injuries healed or just getting a bit of confidence in the team...I mean, if you have FOX, PANARIN and LAFRENIERE come back online? MILLER too? That's gonna buy some wins. Add in one of Z or KREIDER? Even more...so he's hoping the ship will correct itself rather than try to adjust his approach...Anyway, the end result is going to be the same: More losses. Unless they try something radically different, the NHL has figured out the Rangers. They can't go back to summer 2024. That ship has sailed. And LAVIOLETTE seems to have no inclination to try something...ANYTHING...new.

TD - I’ll take it! But, I think MISA (too close to MIKA? Haha) would be a great second choice. The franchise desperately needs something it hasn’t had ever - a can’t miss, high draft pick, homegrown, true 1 C.

Wildcard - You really do have a selective memory, dude. Like, I don't even know where to start with that. Let's fall with the fact that LAFRENIERE was in the EXACT same position as KAKKO was until LAVIOLETTE came a long and gave him a shot on the PANARIN line. There were fans...RANGER fans...calling him a bust. The general thinking was that he'd be moved for 'next to nothing.' As for points? Again...You're just being contrarian and picking meaningless stats to try to push some sort of idea that KAKKO was a bust and that the Rangers were in no way culpable for making him a mess. And that's laughable dude. 100 percent laughable. The Rangers took a kid who oozed talent, was well ahead of his peers in terms of development and they broke him down. The pounded him into being a Jesper FAST-type player and didn't cater to ANY of his strengths. And they did it with coaches who are all but inept, starting with QUINN, continuing with GALLANT and leading into LAVIOLETTE. And they were on the path to doing the same EXACT thing with LAFRENIERE before he got his big break on the PANARIN line...And as an aside? I have a very good feeling that wasn't a bench decision either...KAKKO had his chances? Sure. But you're sitting here saying he had every opportunity to be a top player and failed? That's total bullshit. He was marginalized, tooled with, and used like a fucking grinder. You look at how other teams have developed top wingers...like SVECHNIKOV in Carolina or STUTZLE in Ottawa...these teams gave them roles, were patient, dealt with first and second year lumps and then moved them into prominent roles. The Rangers never did that with KAKKO and only barely started doing it with LAFRENIERE. Arguing otherwise is totally ignoring facts that are literally slapping you in the face.

Limbo - At this point? I would be very, VERY surprised if Jimmy HAGENS doesn't go first-overall. He's the best forward prospect out of the USNTDP since Jack HUGHES. Probably better than HUGHES, TBH...Tell you what...One of the best things that could possibly happen to hockey in the tri-state region would be for the Rangers to get this kid and for us to watch the HAGENS-HUGHES rivalry blossom. For some reason I thought he was in the 2026 draft...but seeing that he's not? I am ALL OVER losing every single game for the next three months to draft this kid. But it's gonna be a tough race to the bottom for THAT sweepstakes. Crazy to think: The Rangers are just 7 points away from being an honest contender in the HAGENS sweepstakes...and they've been beaten by two of the three worst teams in the league.

For the life of me, I can not understand how a move (coach or player(s)) was not made after the shit show of the last two games and the utter chaotic sopa opera that is the New York Rangers....Perhaps Drury is just lenthening the Laviolette era so that all the blame will fall there and not where it truly belongs the most?????Anyways, none of the vets other than FOX and PANARINA are really dealable for anything worthwhile (betwen ZBAD's total decay and apathy and Kreider's attitude and declared back issues)....Unless you want to give away Schneider, Miller or Cuylle like you did KAKKAO....And then what's the over/under for the number of games CHYTL goes before being knocked out for the season?...Of course, like with D-man and toughness, Drury has that covered with all the NHL center depth he has amassed in Brodz and LESYCHYSN!

RF4L - I didn’t even think of the youth blocking angle. Very good point! That’s why you get paid the big bucks, lol.

Limbo: Again we agree (operating in the mode of half-measures). Classic example is the signing of Panarin. Yes, statistically you can argue strongly that he's delivered fabulously, at least in the regular season but he's also taken up spots in the top 6 and 1st PP during his entire tenure. And of course at his salary and how he's delivered statistically, so he should. But in doing so he's also served to block the progress on young players. IMO, his signing was 2 years too early. That subsequently set the stage for the resigning of Kreider and then Zbad and finally, the Trocheck UFA signing. All of those have paid a certain amount of dividends but at the same time, magnified the blocking issue the Panarin signing created. A related issue that unless addressed soon will negatively impact the organization's future is Dreary's ill-advised trading deadline moves that has seen a myriad of draft picks flitted away for ineffective rentals. These moves were executed in an attempt to push the veteran laden group over the top. Add to that the reluctance, after the miserable DQ coaching failure, to hire a young, forward thinking head coach. Instead, it's been 2 vet stroking old school coaches. All examples IMO of the half measures criticism you cite. In short, the organization initiated a legitimate rebuild phase then part-way through it (re after accumulating a bunch of impressive young assets) began making moves prematurely and in doing so, compromised a HUGE part of a rebuild: Developing the young assets the rebuild resulted in. The end result of all this has been failure (assuming winning the cup was the goal).

Limbo: Again we agree (operating in the mode of half-measures). Classic example is the signing of Panarin. Yes, statistically you can argue strongly that he's delivered fabulously, at least in the regular season but he's also taken up spots in the top 6 and 1st PP during his entire tenure. And of course at his salary and how he's delivered statistically, so he should. But in doing so he's also served to block the progress on young players. IMO, his signing was 2 years too early. That subsequently set the stage for the resigning of Kreider and then Zbad and finally, the Trocheck UFA signing. All of those have paid a certain amount of dividends but at the same time, magnified the blocking issue the Panarin signing created. A related issue that unless addressed soon will negatively impact the organization's future is Dreary's ill-advised trading deadline moves that has seen a myriad of draft picks flitted away for ineffective rentals. Add to that the reluctance, after the miserable DQ coaching failure, to hire a young, forward thinking head coach. All examples IMO of the half measures criticism you cite. In short, the organization initiated a legitimate rebuild phase then part-way through it (re after accumulating a bunch of impressive young assets) began making moves prematurely and in doing so, compromised a HUGE part of a rebuild: Developing the young assets the rebuild resulted in. Instead, it's been 2 vet stroking old school coaches. The end result of all this has been failure (assuming winning the cup was the goal).

And, for the love of all hockey gods everywhere, can we please, for ONCE, be the team that gets “free” picks for retaining salary? We have been so effed over by other teams with this trick over the years. If we don’t use this stupid accounting loophole now, we never will. Need get at least a few 2nds, just for retaining.

td: I don't care if it was 10% of an actual season. he did absolutely zero. That one year Zib and Kreider had one of their best seasons on record. That started day one, they were consistent, its one of the only years those guys were actually consistent. He played 37 of the first 41 games of the season, at the point he went down he had 14 points, GOODROW had 17!!! Strome 30, Kreider 38, Zib 39, and Bread 41...other than Goodrow Kakko had played with all of them. He played nearly half the season on the top lines. Among forwards the even strength ice time went: Panarin 1, Strome 2, Zib 3 and Kakko 4. He had the 4th most ice time at even strength among forwards on the team 40 games in. Stop making excuses for him. Just stop. Hell, he was 6th on the team among forwards in OVERALL ice time. With 2 and a half more minutes of ice time than Laf and 3 more minutes of ice than Chytil. SO lets dispense with the bullshit about Kakko being held back and never given a chance. Facts are in deed facts. He never stepped up, and the last calendar year or so he has regressed. There is no reason for a coaching staff to do anything to give him more ice time. The entire NHL saw him fail with the opportunity. Even at the time I said that, he failed to take hold when given the chance, I always expected him to turn a corner and take charge of it, and force more ice time like Laf has done. But he just didn't, and then again, he only responded to the press when scratched, and not on the ice. Yet here you are blabbing about poor Kakko. You dismiss the 70% and say the bulk of the time he was placed on the 3rd line. NOT THAT YEAR! By the way the VERY NEXT SEASON after 40 games he was 5th among forwards in total time on ice per game. 4th in even ice per game...that was the Kid Line year...but he had just 18 points at that time. Still he was among the ice time leaders among Forwards. The next year he got hurt 20 games in, but was 7th in overall ice time and even ice time. He had a whopping 3 points. That 3 points by the way is the same number that Pitlick had in 10 games. Again. Stop blaming the coaches. Stop blaming the GM, stop reaching around desperately looking for who was at fault. The answer is right there, its easy, Kakko, Kakko is the reason Kakko got scratched, Kakko is the reason Kakko wasn't a staple higher up int he lineup, Kakko is the reason Kakko didn't get a lot in trade. Kakko is the reason Kakko doesn't compete hard on the ice, Kakko is that reason.

RF4L - re: draft picks and retool. The problem, as I see it, those two things are not exactly in phase with each other. And TBH, that is my overall fear. I am fine with a cohesive and well thought out cup winning strategy (regardless of WHATEVER that strategy is)…as long as we completely follow through with the correct actions to make that strategy a success. The latter is WAY more important than the former. As we have seen, there are plenty of ways to get to a cup. The issue - NYR have historically operated with half measures. And half assed results are the natural consequence. What will happen this time? We will see. For all his faults, I don’t think DRURY is completely stupid. I think he knows what to do. But, I am not convinced, at all, that he is capable of following through. I’d be very curious what he would do if he was say the GM of NJ or BUF. It’s funny because it’s as if a ceti eel crawls into every NYR GM’s ear upon taking the job that makes them incapable of forming a plan and fully implementing it. Unless lots wins, lots of money, some playoffs success, and no cups was the goal the entire time. If so….well done.

PP2 looks like shit anytime I see them…They have trouble setting up…PP1 without Kreider looked much better?….Yes Laff really sparked them….The need a coach that changes what they are doing…Kreider can’t tip shots that never get there…Z should be off any PP at this point but watching Chytil lose every face off doesn’t get it done…

Hospo Dolan has put up with much worse with the running…ehm..ruining of his favorite team. The Knickerbockers. So I doubt what is happening to the Rangers bothers him all that much, yet.

I think Rangers fans should file a class action lawsuit against Dolan and MSG for misrepresentation and gross negligence at running the franchise so poorly yet constantly raising prices for tickets and tv access.

Limbo. I get the pain but that shouldn't preclude the Rangers from embracing the correct strategy. Unless there's a miraculous turn around in the next 4 to 6 weeks that strategy is to acquire picks (especially crucial thanks to idiot Dreary flitting so many away for nothing the past 3 years) and young players/prospects. IMO a rebuild isn't needed (there's enough young seasoned NHLers on the team now); it's a retool that should be initiated with one primary objective being the leadership change, something that has already started. Anything else risks plunging the organization into long term mediocrity.

JFC: "When they make the POs...". Next year under a new GM and coach, right?? ;^)

See the 1st rounders here. Just brutal… https://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/teams/dr00007089.html

RF4L - at the beginning of the season, I was 95% sure that 1st was as good as gone. Now? Flip those odds. On the draft. There is no consensus number 1, but the top 4 seem to be top end. But…because…Rangers…I predict a repeat of 2017 - NYR will pick right outside the studs. Will they get a dud like LISA ANDERCRAP? We’ll see. But the odds are not good, at least for NYR. Since the LEETCH pick 40 years ago, almost all of the their top 10 picks have been complete washouts or completely underwhelming. The only one that is even close is LAF. I’m too lazy to run the numbers, but I’m gonna guess that the NYR hit rate is WAY under average. Some are from bad luck, some are from bad development. But the vast majority reeks of an org that THINKS they are way smarter than everyone else. Gotta justify those big bucks that DIPPY DOLAN hands out, right? Either way, the results are terrible. We would be much better off just having a monkey throw at a dartboard. I’m free on draft day. Anyone else want to join me, lol?

JFC/TDCHI - There is always the difference between things we want to see and things that we are likely to see...Despite his team destroying incompetence, DRURY will stay through out the year at a minimum..Have no idea what his relationship is with DOLAAN and what they talk about..DOLAN can not be oblivious to the stench emnating from NY and the laughing stock the Rangers have become..and in the shadow of the Devils now....but...Has Dipshit Dickweed Dumbfuck Drury sold him on who to blame and a short tange plan (1-2 yeaars) that he might have that would make whethet they come back to resembling a hockey team and/or making the POs this year meaningless.....And he always has the Fire Laviolette card to play for more time...ANd, based on the cluelessness of Laviolette's rister managemnt, that card will need to be played relatively soon....I have zero confidence in Drury but when you have an even more clueless or not caring owner tht leaves the teqam in the hands of such an inept GM, well, the team is royally fucked for quite awhile

2 goal scored in last 4 games. Whats next? Maybe they should forfeit some upcoming games.

Rangers are 1/22 on the PP in their last 8 games! Yet, after a 3 day break, Laviolette comes back with the same lines. Once again, the “we have to keep playing them until they get hot” bullshit prevails. And then, when we get to the PO’s and the PP on d again goes cold, PP2 is useless from lack of PP ice time. Perhaps Laviolette will simply start allotting the PP time based on merit instead this time. PP2 seemed to be doing OK when given a chance….a more basic apptoach instead of the same old, same old E-W bullshit

Here's who I want the Rangers to select: https://www.eliteprospects.com/news/nhl-prospects/roger-mcqueen-could-become-a-first-overall-caliber-prospect

Just posted a mock draft link where the author has the Rangers picking 14th. Kid looks like a legit top 6 centre

JFC31 - Well if you're saying DRURY is safe...then we have no argument! I think there's a chance...a SLIGHT chance...that if he misses the playoffs this year, he could be on the hot seat. Two years in a row would, however, do it, IMO...All I'm saying is that this speculation among fans and pundits...that the Rangers under DRURY's stewardship would do a 'hockey trade'...one that would improve their team in both the short and long terms...then you really gotta watch how this guy operates. He has his core. And any changes he makes to it from here out will be 1. an admission the Rangers are resetting; and 2. will be for picks and and expiring contracts.

Anyone saying KK wasn't marginalized by THREE coaches is either not watching or not comprehending what s/he was seeing.

Rangers now sit 23rd overall 3 points out of 29th and 7 out of 32nd. There's no true number 1 pick but there are impressive kids in top 5 to 10 spots. Will Dreary dare trade that pick??

Hospo/TD - I didn’t say that the upcoming Drury moves were going to save this team….I simply said that he has a plan that he has passed by Dolan. I don’t think he’s in danger at this point. He has made a lot of money for Dolan with the teams he has iced, despite the fact that they were largely of Gorton’s making. The fact that he signed Shesty long term makes it obvious that he is not interested in rebuilding this team. He wants to remake it. My biggest gripe with him at this point is that if he is not happy with this core and thinks it can’t win a Cup, then why the fuck did he sign Zibanejad? Could be he figures he can be a good center, just not a #1 center…figured he’s valuable just for his defensive prowess, PK, etc. But, now even that prowess seems to have disappeared. Remember, word was that Drury was pissed off at Panarin’s PO performance 2 years ago. Word all along has been that Drury wants a bigger, heavier, more physical team. That is likely what he is aiming for. Maybe part of the plan is to look towards future UFA’s to get what he wants and he told Dolan that he’d have to be patient, he’d win him some PO games but the ultimate goal is in the near future. He’s already kept the 1st part of the bargain with making the playoffs and producing that PO revenue for Nepo Baby Dolan. That’s his only concern with the Rangers…don’t lose money, The Knicks are the team he cares about….

The rangers have tried many different players on the bromance line. Most have been players that are supposed to be goal scorers. Whst if they traded for a giy like greenway from buffalo. I guy who is tough. Works the boards and can skate. Maybe it would open some ice and give zbaby a feeliing of security

Wildcard - That's playing very free and loose with the facts, re: KAKKO. That 'big chance' he got with the top line? He only played half the season before going down with an injury, so 70 percent...and that sounds really high regardless...is also 70 percent of 50 percent. And that was at 5-on-5. You want to sit back and tell me GALLANT and QUINN heaped icetime and responsibility on him, I'll say you're friggin' nuts. He had two seasons interrupted by injury, and for the vast majority of his time in New York he was placed on third line. Also, I will note once again: His last game in New York was 48 hours after he requested a trade and was told it was being granted. While I don't think it's a great idea to undercut your coach on the way out, the shit he said was ABSOLUTELY true. He did nothing to earn being scratched, while there were at least five or six other forwards who did. He was scapegoated and he asked to start anew...Oh, and while he wasn't really put on a grinder line in New York...the dude was put on a line with the franchise center and one of its top scorers right off the bat. Not saying he's gonna stay there, but obviously Seattle sees the virtue of surrounding him with good players...as the Rangers should've seen...but didn't...bottom line is if you're trying to argue KAKKO isn't a good player, I'll again say you're nuts. He's a fantastic player. The type ANY coach would want on their team. He may never be a star, but he's the kind of guy who makes things happen for other players...oh and I'll close on this: If you're wondering what happened to CUYLLE's production all of a sudden...welp...I can tell you where the drop off came...just so happened to coincide with KAKKO getting scratched and then traded...

“He’s an important piece of the team, and we’re moving forward,” Laviolette said. “We need him and everybody to be great players from this point.” “I don’t think one brush does it,” the Rangers bench boss said. “It’s something one game. It’s something different the next game. We lose a 2-1 game against Carolina. They score a couple of power-play goals, and then we don’t generate very much in that game in Jersey. So it’s different every game. … But we’ve got to get past that and turn a corner.” “We’ve got to start coming out of this break, use it as a reset, move forward and go down to Tampa and win a hockey game,” Laviolette said. “Then push our way back in the playoff race.”… lardass is no Picasso. He should scratch himself for at least one game. DD drury should send out an addendum to his memo saying that his coaches are all available too. With a ps from Dolan saying his gm is also available. The fish stinks from head to tail.

Bottom line DD drury will take whatever he can get for whoever he wants to trade. He’s more interested in getting rid of than getting back in return. That’s what happens when you put up a for sale sign with up to 50% off and accepting all bids and almost all items are for sale.

Hospo: Undeservingly minimize Kakko? No... he earned his place. Over and over again. in 2021-22 he spent nearly 70% of his even strength ice time with Kreider and Zib or Strome and Panarin. The next season was the Kid Line season, but he still spent 20% of his ice time at even with Kreider and Zib, last year he spent 30% of his ice time with them. At the same time his production fell well below that of his linemates. In fact, the seasons he spent 43% of his ice time with Kreider and Zib those two combined for 48 and 39 points respectively at even strength, Kakko had 16. Then he gets scratched this last time, goes all viral about how upset he is, calls teammates worse players than him, promptly gets a chance to put his money where his mouth is, went out on the ice and well, quite frankly showed nothing. He played with no energy or emotion, like he always does. I was always waiting for him to start bringing some emotion to the ice, waiting for him to show frustration and maybe get a little pissed off that things were not going in, to play with some energy and elevate the play on the ice, to step up when the team needed someone. He never did that, or at least very rarely. But it's clear that he wasn't afraid to gripe about playing time...he went to the media with it, and typically that means someone has already voiced that internally to others. It was likely not the first time the coaches or management had heard it, either directly from him or his agent. I am tired of everyone trying to find some big bad boogie man behind the bench or up in the management offices. Why has no other player had the same issues as Kakko? It was Kakko, and when you take the time to look back at his time and look at other players over that same time. It becomes very clear. And you want to know something crazy...he wanted a trade, he thought he was being misused, fans here still say that. Well then why in Seattle, is he averaging 10 seconds more at even strength per game and 11 seconds more on the PP? Why is it that a whole new coaching staff has had a look and basically, he is being deployed the same way? Why is it he has basically the same shots per game rate of about 1.5-1.6 shots per game? Why is he the same guy, being used the same way? Because he is that guy. Someday he may turn a corner, hopefully for he does, and it may have part to do with the dimmer lights and expectation in Seattle. But the man earned what he got in NY.

OK, but serious question..I undrstand the benching of a player like Kreider who was piss poor the game before and maybe a message needed to be sent to him....but...what kind of message are you sending when you bench a Kredier, and undeservingly minimize then bench KAKKAO while you continue to play and play arguably the worst player all year (ZMOPE) and never benched the two D-men playing the worst (MIller, LIndgren)...Talk about mixed fucking messages...I can't see this not contiuning to spiral out of control....BUt......there is always a fool's hope..so I will watch tomorrow ..and Monday..and...

RF4L - Yeah, that was pretty much my point! I don't have time for this inept GM and his shit!

JFC - Can't say i"m buying that but who knows..What i do know is that if Drury does get the deal he is looking for, wahtever it is, it will downright suck like every other move he has made for about 2 years..Team is fucked as long as Drury remains...The team continues to shit the bed with Laviolette and whatever crap Drury gives him...Laviolette will have to go eventaully..One excuse gone....Then, .Unless somebody opens DOlan's eyes, Drury will reamin for another year or two of, at best, mediocrity, and then another rebuild will begin..So maybe by 2032 another window will open

JFC31 - Look: We got BORGEN, VAAKANAINEN, a third, fourth and sixth round draft picks for a top-nine forward and a top four defenseman. That's not pennies on the dollar. That's giving away players. Plain and simple. TROUBA? Well, there's an argument for it being a necessary evil to avoid having to pay someone to take the final year of his contract...but KAKKO? Dude, that was a move of desperation. KAKKO wanted out. DRURY took the first offer he got. ANYONE who is traded right now from this team will be moved for picks and expiring contracts. Or toss-in contracts, which was essentially what VAAKANAINEN was. He was going to be put on waivers and they gave him to the Rangers instead to shed a contract...so unless the Rangers are going into full tank mode...which I doubt they are...but even if they DO decide to hit the nuclear option...what they're gonna get for Z and KREIDER and LINDGERN and whoever else you want to throw in will be next to nothing. The only thing it'll do is replenish some of the picks DRURY has frittered away over the past three seasons for mercenaries. The BIG problem right now is that LAVIOLETTE still seems to be safe in his job. And my fear...or hope?!...is that he'll be kept for the year. If that's the case, the Rangers may very well be in the running for HAGENS, because this team has...as unbelievable as it seems...yet to hit rock bottom.

OTHMAN is anotherv mini-me forward that trys to play big..Another injury waiting to happen..Can we somehow get another big man that plays big to add to our grand total of one (Cuylle)? Oh, I forgot the incompetent Dickweed Drury is the GM!!!....nywaays, at least Othman and the Human Buzzsw stick there noses into everything unlike our own Hermn Munster on skates in Adam Edstrom

OTTER with a secondary assist. GREAT to see him back. Honestly, the only bonus I can see from the KAKKO debacle is that it DOES carve out a winger position for him and BERARD to tussle over until SMITTY Jr. flies the coop in six months...would be interesting to see a line of OTHMANN-TROCHECK-CUYLLE for a few spins. Maybe let CHYTIL jump up with PANARIN and LAFRENIERE. And BERARD with KREIDER and Z.

JFC. I sure hope you're right but I won't believe it until/unless I see it. Worse? Dreary's track record on trades is pathetic and given the KK return getting worse. Why would that suddenly change?

I am becoming more and more certain that Drury has the 100% support for his current approach to this team. His basic premia to Dolan was that this team with this core was not going to win the Cup. He probably told Dolan this, told him he could make him some money by winning some PO games and hope for a miracle run. He told Dolan that the core must go and that he would start with Trouba. The fact that Laviolette has made all this noise regarding benching Kakko and then benching Kreider but then proceeds to go back to the same fucking lines and UNBELIEVABLY, the same fucking PP is what tells me that Drury is just gonna ride this out until he gets the deals that he wants. Give the players their security blanket line ates and minutes, hope they perk up and then…seemingly out of the blue…..BAM!…there is gonna be a blockbuster or two nobody saw coming. He’s probably getting SHIT offers because other GM’s think he’s desperate so he’s gonna try to let things settle down. If he has to wait until the trade deadline, he will because that’s when PO team GM’s loosen up…but make no mistake, something HUGE is gonna happen at some point.

FWIW I've zero issues with the pressboxing of Kreider last game. Question is will Lardiolette have the balls to do that to Zweep? If he does it how will Zweep respond?

True Story. I saw the Spin Doctors at the California State Fair in Sacramento years ago. And it was dripping with irony.

According to LAVI, Kreider will be playing tomorrow, so I guess it's safe to assume that there is no pending trade.

TD. That was a rumour I was citing. I'm against a vet for a vet deal. Rangers need picks and legit prospects/young NHLers.

Wild...Your stats ruin the narrative..Particularly the one pertaining to Z and Kreider...

TD... It does seem a little nutty and counterintuitive, but apparently there are teams that like him. I think it's most of note because we are supposed to be looking to get rid of Lindgren too. Who's going to play D for us by then?

RF4L - Aside from essentially being the same as Will BORGEN, plus or minus an inch or two, us Ranger fans...and specifically, this wall...would have a blast with Brandon CARLO. With this group? That guy would make Tom POTI look like a revered fan-favorite. They'd need to reinvent the whip for him, because we'd be wearing them out on a nightly basis.

Rhet0ric - I'll happily eat crow if the Rangers can parlay BORGEN into a second rounder...but that said...what are the chances of that? I would say slim and none...and slim just left town.

Wildcard - First, I don't really see anyone arguing that...what I have argued and will continue to argue is that LAVIOLETTE doesn't manage his bench effectively and puts his team at a disadvantage...regardless...if you're trying to say total TOI is BS, you're off your rocker. Total TOI is a HUGE part of the game. You play guys 20-plus minutes a night...23 and 24 in the case of TROCHECK...27 in the case of FOX...you're running those guys in the red. You're making them less effective. I don't give a toss if half that time is on the man-advantage. It's still far too much ice. And truth is, he DOESN'T give younger players shit. The only guy who gets big minutes who is under the age of 24 is LAFRENIERE. Truth is, PP1 is basically the same as the PK. TROCHECK, KREIDER, and Z are all on the kill inexplicably. So if you're gonna do that, then fucking start PP2 once and a while...especially since PP1 has been sucking balls really since the start of November. His bench management has been getting worse and worse. And conversely, the team has played worse and worse...oh and shall I get into the fact that the people WITH the highest ATOI also happen to be the guys looking absolutely ineffective out there? But TOI is just one component. There's a lot more at work with LAVIOLETTE and it boils down to being a one-trick pony. A dude who simply can't adjust...I feel like a broken record, because GALLANT was the same exact way. They do well for a while...but once teams find their weakness? They can't or refuse to adjust. And then it's all over.

"Canucks Could Outbid Rivals for Rangers D-Man in Trade Chase Chris Johnston of The Athletic believes" ....Will Borgen will attract trade interest and the Canucks might be willing to outbid others for him.... https://nhltradetalk.com/canucks-could-outbid-rivals-for-will-borgen-trade-rangers/

NYStranger - "There is also no player on the roster who stirs the drink. They all go out and play their own game and wait around for some one to do something".. Spot on...They do REACT sometimes but rarely initiate or cross the Choir Boy line..Exception being CUYLLE but he is not a shit stirrer either, just a guy that plays the game the right way and finishes every one of his numerous checks..thank god he does

Hospo I agree the team needs at least 3-4 guys who can contribute to the physical game and make the team much less easy/fun to play against. Like 2 on D and 2 forwards. Just too many figure skating marshmallows on the NYR. Skill can’t shine unless these types of players are there to create room. There is also no player on the roster who stirs the drink. They all go out and play their own game and wait around for some one to do something. And it is usually from the other team doing something to them. Coaching aside this team was no built properly to win a Cup. But the last month really has made it much worse. Drury fired yet?

Even strength ice time per game in order, among forwards, for the Rangers THIS year: 1-Panarin 2-Trocheck 3-Lafrenière 4-Zibanejad 5-Cuylle 6-Chytil 7-Kakko 8-Kreider 9-Smith 10-Berard 11-Brodzinski 12-Vesey 13-Carrick 14-Edstrom 15-Rempe. Let's stop pretending that Lavy doesn't use the "3rd: line or the kids...and only leans on vets. Don't come back to me with total ice time. Thats utter bullshit...not every player gets both PP and PK ice time. Not every player should. Even strength is what determines top 6 or top 9 or bottom 6 or whatever rankings you want to use. That has always been the way it's done. The fact is Lavy turns to younger guys more than vets. Also keep in mind that until November 13th Chytil was 4th. He played a lot less the first few games back from injury, but that makes sense, most guys play less at first. Dropped his avg ice time about 30-40 seconds. Lavy has leaned towards younger player who have played well since the start of the season.

Tdchi .. correct minus Goodrow (essential)and trouba (essential) I believe locker room wise.....same players having very poor years why???? We know why Drury!!! Also they were never good 5 on 5, PP and D is now awful it was never that great to begin with....it's simple really....we weren't that good to begin , good yes but a hit year for many players not a great team.

AJ GREER, Nick BASTIAN. Curtis LAZAR. These are all guys that have been free and available for years that the Rangers pass on. I'm not gonna cry about it much...but I would've like to have one of those guys...I mention players like that every off season and every off season DRURY passes on them...but I'll also say this: What would it matter? You have a coach who all but refuses to use his fourth line...even when they're the best one he has. And the third line...also sparingly used...is basically a skill line, save for CUYLLE.

Lardiolette gone back same lines other than BB swapped for KK. PP1 the same too. I guess he had an epiphany over Christmas! Lolol. 2 more losses looming.

Actually, Boston was an utter shitshow right up until MONTGOMERY was fired. Like a Yakov Smirnoff opening for the Spin Doctors at the Iowa State Fair shit-show. The acrimony around the team's handling of SWAYMAN coupled with the fact that their coach was also trying to stick them for a ton of money. Was more than just that. People were saying the same things about MARCHAND and PASTRNAK that Ranger fans are saying about KREIDER and Z. The team was a total fucking trainwreck. And y'all know how I feel about MONTGOMERY...they canned MONTY at 8-9-3. And since then? SACCO has gone 11-4-1 and Boston is seven points out of leading the Eastern Conference...Oh...and just to go a bit further? St. Louis came into the year with a lot of questions and not that great of a team. They went 9-12-1 before kicking Drew BANISTER to the curb. Under MONTY? 7-4-3 and the team is back at .500...And on that note? The EASIEST way to change a culture in an NHL organization? You guessed it: CHANGE THE FUCKING COACH. The Rangers' 'culture' problem starts with the guy behind the bench. There is NO trade...NO roster move...that will improve this team with him still there. I watched the Devils limp through last season with fuckface RUFF behind the bench and it was utterly mystifying their devotion to that clown...If the Rangers want to keep this guy until the spring? Well, Jimmy HAGENS is a hell of a center.

PJ - You and me both..I fucking hate Hughes and his entire fucking Royal famaily....Somebody has to maim that prick...That the Rangers are incapable of hurting him or, now, even standing up to the Devils is sad indeed..What Drury and Laviolette have done to this team and turninh them into a bunch of apathetic, emasculated losers (i.e., a team full of Kamenskys) is mind boggling

Watching the Devils humiliate the Rangers was bad enough. Apparently, the Devils put Jack Hughes being drafted on the big board while the fans were chanting Kappo Kakko….Hughes grinning ear to ear on the bench….Oh how I hope for the day a Ranger annihilates that little prick….

STEVIE - can't argue with any of that..my preferred order also..MF - yep, I want the physicality, skating, hitting, aggression, playing for teammates, the fighting is just a bonus..

Hospo the way it needs to go is drury first. But it will probably be players first. Changing lardass might salvage this season, but it’s not a long term solution. But I’ll take his hide first right now. He’s lost beyond recognition, even with that barber school haircut.

One problem that's evident to me is that the Rangers have added youth every year for the past 6 years, resulting in the roster being one of the youngest in the league approx 3-4 years ago, and our current so-called veteran players not filling the void in the traditional sense. The most recent void at the Vet Level was created by exporting Goodrow & Trouba and the remain vets not picking up the slack, starting with Kreider, then Zibanejad the two longest tenured players (certainly Kreider) IIRC. Trocheck is trying to fill some of those shoes, he can't do it alone. I imagine that there's the possibility that the Kum-ba-yah Bromo's ma step up the leadership void, but time is not on our side.

All that said, who goes first in the coming days? Laviolette? Kreider? Vesey? Lindgren? MIller?..I dread the insignificant return Drury will get on the last 4...Still, just as long as they keep ZFLOAT and Panaarina, the Rangers will be fine

CNP - with REMPs, who I love, even odds to take the Ryan HOLLWEG career path out of the NHL...the Rangers sure as hell need a guy on their roster like GREER or somebody similar.that has attitude and balls and physical aggrssion unlike a skating tampon like EDSTROM..or a munchkin "buzzsaw" like Berard ( I do like his Hustle though and should have a role)....This is just another hole in the orgnaniztion (like D and Center) that Drury has left unaddressed as he fiddles whie the Rangers burn..The incompetence of DipShit Drury the lst two years is staggering......It's bad enough Laviolette does not know how to manage ice time anhy more but when also given roster with major holes and infected plyers, well, up shit's creek without a paddle!

A guy I wanted in the off-season vice R.Smith just had a big article in the FL newspaper. AJ GREER, leads the team in hits, fights, plays the PK, has 21 high danger changes, and brings energy every night. He has 9 points, which isn't a ton but he is a CUYLLE light kind of player, would have been great for the 3rd/4th line. LAV fired yet?

TOR- As bad as things are in MSG, pull away the curtain from TOR and see A Mathews is really hurt bad and his play has declined major, while Marner is an UFA this summer.... NYRs got some bad mojo in the locker room that Drury needs to clear out and there is still a strong young core to build around... I am OK with givng up on this season, play for the draft pick, and trade away the vets... start fresh on July 1st.

https://nypost.com/2024/12/26/sports/rangers-lowlights-outweigh-the-highlights-this-season/

Win or lose at least Boston has a team culture. Dd drury has not even accomplished that. He’s pretty much done the opposite. He’s playing checkers while the good teams are playing chess. Picking lardass from the good ole boys recycle club is a part of his mo. And he’ll probably stick with him through thick and thin to cover his ass with Dolan. He’s blowing smoke up his ass and really hasn’t proven enough. They make the playoffs and then they shit the bed . And now his effect is headed towards not making the playoffs. Do you think that is easy to do ? And in the process he has built and will tear down the roster in the name of cap space and will repeat it to keep his job until Dolan realizes that drury has reached his level of incompetency. The Nyr and their fans deserve better. Instead they are 1940 and 1994 . And as usual it’s deja vu all over again.

Oh and one more quick story about how a really shitty coach can take a good team and make them terrible...remember how easy a win the Devils were last season? That team was awful. Now caveats: Dougie HAMILTON was out. True. And their goaltending was pretty terrible. Also true. And in the off-season, they added muscle in PESCE, COTTER, and DILLON...so they tweaked...but you want to know what the HUGE change was? Yeah, sheading the guy who is, bar none, the WORST coach in the NHL. I speak of Lindy RUFF. The fucking total boob who couldn't pull together the rudimentary elements of a system if they were given to him in a book titled A Complete Idiot's Guide for Systems. The Devils have the same EXACT core that they did when they embarrassed the Rangers and got GALLANT fired. Almost nothing has changed. The difference is their approach. RUFF let Andrew BRUNETTE draw up that approach...and he did what he did best, which is sit behind the bench and look stupid. When BRUNETTE left, he was exposed for the pure charlatan that he is...and that the poor sots in Buffalo are seeing now...the team that went 2-13 in December and one of the few to actually lose to the Rangers...the Rangers are now five points away from the Sabres in the standings...and seven points away from the HAGENS sweepstakes. We can argue all day about how bad ZIBANEJAD is and how the team needs to step up...but folks...it's glaring at this point...the Rangers have a problem behind the bench and it ain't gonna fix itself.

vcp1994 - Dude. This is essentially the same team that made the Conference Final. Full stop. They're weaker without TROUBA and KAKKO, for sure. But they still have all the bare essentials that got them to that spot...The problem now is that none of them are working together...why is the big question. You can say it's because all of their important players had career years last season, and they're showing who they really are now...not a great argument, but it's possible...you can say the team is moping because of whatever DRURY has been doing in the background. Again, not the best of arguments, but possible...or you can look at the guy behind the bench and come to the conclusion I've reached, which is that he's the wrong guy and whatever he did last season to make things work...well, that magic has worn off...can this team correct its trajectory? I'll say this, man: ANYTHING is possible with a goalie of SHESTERKIN'S ability between the pipes. Anything. You have a team with SOOOOOOOO much talent. I don't say this lightly either...but the combination of PANARIN, Z, LAFRENIERE, CHYTIL, TROCHECK, FOX, MILLER, and SCHNEIDER. That's serious talent, dude. And they're all at or around their prime...to stand back and say these guys just ain't good is really some next world silliness. They ARE that good. They are MASSIVELY underperforming. Not just one or two guys...BUT THE WHOLE TEAM. And not just by a little...I seriously think some folks here need to watch a few of the decisive victories from last season to remember what this team CAN and more importantly, DID do. These aren't guys that just turned 40 and are on the downside of their careers. These are ALL guys in their mid-20s and early 30s. KREIDER is the lone gray beard among them and the one guy where it is conceivably possible his career is beginning to slip. The rest? Seriously? Not a chance. The problem here is in execution. Their play is sloppy. Nothing is crisp. They are not doing all the little things a winning team does to win. The last game was a GREAT example. The 2023-24 Rangers would've stomped that Devils' team. But the 2024-25 team? They were LITERALLY colliding with each other and taking too many men penalties. These are guys who have been together for the better part of three seasons! Something is ailing them...holding them back...because on paper, they are a playoff team. There isn't a hockey writer out there who picked them to miss the playoffs this season...and if you use logic to troubleshoot the problem, you'll come to the same conclusion that I've reached, which is that it's the jackass behind the bench. LAVIOLETTE may have been a good coach once. He may STILL be a good coach. What he isn't is the right coach for this team. Full stop. Until he's gone, they will continue to lose. A lot.

KIS - Unless that player is Connor McDAVID...and even if he is...there is no one player that makes a team a winner. You can tell me ZIBANEJAD isn't having a good season. You're right there, for sure. You can say he's on the decline...can't really argue against that right now either...but to say he's never been any good and insinuate he's the reason this team isn't succeeding? That's flat-out bullshit. Z has been the best, most complete, and most consistent center this team has has since GRETZKY retired, bar none. Outside of this season, he has performed fantastic, both during the regular season and the post season. What did he do to advance the Rangers' chances last year? Well, let's start being an indispensable part of the PK and the PP...But hell. He was able to shut down Sasha BARKOV, which is no easy task. Just so happens the Rangers didn't have an answer for TKACHUK, REINHART and BENNETT after him...I get it. He doesn't fit your idea of what a franchise center should be, which sounds a bit like a healthy Eric LINDROS. But he's been fantastic his whole career in New York, with exception to this season, where, yes, he's has not looked good at all. But to sit here and say he's the reason the Rangers aren't winning games or the cup...well, that's completely divorced from reality...I'll go one step farther too...if the Rangers DO decide Z is done and they want him gone...they will not have even the slightest bit of trouble moving him. They might need to eat a little salary to get something decent back in return...but they'll find more than enough suitors.

Vcp. Fuck yeah. Especially for someone like Miller who should fetch someone like Cozens....

He doesnt go to the ohysicalparts of the ide. He wont finish a check. Never goes to the front of the met. Common man that team got there because of the trocheck line and because goodrow got hot. You can have your opinion but i said it 3 yrs ago and i stick with my opinion. They will not win the cup with him as the focal point

TD please tell me in what world zbad is maki g this team a winner. He is fuckjng weak minded. He isnt a physocal player at all. Whst did he do to help bring that team within one game of the final. Had he done anything he would have pushed them into the final. His 5 on 5 sucked. He was bring the PP down. That unit didn't score because of him. It scored because of panarin

Just a reminder: None of these are trade rumors, it's just Wyshynski musing about nonsense.

Drury the ultimate asshole although Brian burke seems to think he is doing what he has to do .......buy Drurys trades are god awful....

Kreider isn't done by a long shot he has another 4-6 years left ...just has a sore back and a broken heart from ZBAD.... The two sistas ....need to grow the fuck up . ...my job would not trade me they would say bbb byyyyeeeee have a nice life

Marchand is done too old OMG ....well if Drury is that stupid which appears to be the case

Random thought of the day - has any person alive every had a better run in life than Ron Low? 12 years as an NHL goalie and finishes 100-200 with a .860 save pct. Then for some ungodly reason, he earned 7 years in the league as a HC - never finished above .500. What the actual F? Like, who paid this guy for all this….shit, lol.

Tdchi rangers are NOT a playoff team dude we have no defense and no 5 v5 scoring and no PP c'mon are you kidding.... playoff team naaaahhhh

I just watched the Prime Network game 7 series, the one of 94 Rangers .they are all good episodes . This Ranger team should be shown the video of that contest every game day . Like Mike Keenan said , the game was ‘vicious’ . That team was tough , as they all were back then , not like these pussies we have on this team now

JFC31 - Hate to say it, but that's pretty standard for teams. Look, when you're winning and having fun? It's easy to have moments like these...or the 'Shesty release us' from REAVES...but start to lose? And those moments begin looking real foolish...I remember a World Juniors from four or five years ago, when Max COMTOIS was captain of the Canadian team. He started games like that...got his team jacked...and then they got their asses spanked. I think that was one of the few tourneys where the Canadians didn't make the medal round...Point is, winning is the rising tide that floats all ships. You get things like the Broadway hat or the center ice salute FROM winning. You don't create that spark while you're losing. There ain't nothing this Rangers team can import to change what's going on right now unless that player is someone who helps turn the season around...but that's the rub...the Rangers are NOT a bad team. Even sans KAKKO and TROUBA, they are still a playoff team. What is ailing them is NOT their talent. It's their execution. Maybe they can add someone to change it...but more likely, whatever roster moves they make now will be rearranging the deck chairs of the Titanic. This team is broken and fucked. The ONLY move that may change it is sacking the coach. And even that is not 100 percent.

I'm not trying to kill the messenger...but in what possible world does MARCHAND-for-KREIDER and MILLER-for-BOESER make any sense? Answer: They don't...in the first instance, I mentioned the Bruins are 10-4-1 since relieving their coach. Why would they trade their captain, who has been, basically, a point-per-game player for a winger who is in the worst slump of his career? And on BOESER...while I'm sure they'd love to land a D man like MILLER, that would entail trading away dude who scored 40 goals last season and a very important part of their lineup at a time when the team just got back it's top goaltender...But let's ignore all of this noise for a sec...Take a quick pull through DRURY's trade history and you'll notice something pretty stark: These AIN'T the type of trades he goes for. He seems to have two types: deadline deals where he's moving dead weight or picks for expiring contracts and all the others, which he trades away the better player for picks and...well...throw-in expiring contracts...HOWDEN, BUCH, GEORGIEV, TROUBA and KAKKO all followed this model. Could throw KRAVTSOV in there too. Even REAVES. So KREIDER to the Bruins? What you're probably looking at is something like a third, a fourth and Jordan OESTERLE...K'Andre to the Canucks? A second and Danton HEINEN. Drury ain't getting shit back in terms of usefulness. He's made two trades this season and both have made the team significantly weaker.

When does the roster freeze end tomorrow? Need to prepare myself for another fleecing...

Zbad might become zhard if Marchand licks him . I just wish drury would not come back after his Christmas break and just stay home with his family.

Greg Wyshynski @wyshynski was pimping out that Kreider trade rumor like two weeks ago and he asked "who says no?" Pretty much every NYR fan said "NO." Brad Marchand is also very likely to retire after the season.

Flyers BTW have some impression kids in this tourney. They find a goalie and in a few years they're gonna be a top metro team.

I hate it when there are minimal Ranger prospects in the WJC which is the case this year thanks to asshole Dreary flitting away picks for zippo.

ESPN: “IIHF World Junior Championship in Ottawa will be a seeding ground for many trades. It is easier there for GMs to fly in, watch players and meet their teams and colleagues than it would be if the tournament was held overseas. It's an opportunity for many to get together and discuss things, get viewings on players of interest and formulate a plan. For now, we'll have to wait for the roster freeze to end and all the excitement to begin.”

ESPN suggesting two trades involving the Rangers…suggesting, not predicting. These are not rumors…Kreider to Boston for Marchand, Miller to Vancouver for Boeser

THIS is a big part of what is missing from the NY Rangers! It’s as if they have lost their “innocence” and they’re just not having fun playing hockey any more! They need to find a way to bring back a fun vibe to their locker room that can translate to relaxing & enjoying the game once again! Remember “SHESTY RELEASE US!” Remember seeing video of Lafrenière shaking his ass to the locker room music? Remember how much fun they had at the outdoor game vs. the Islanders? Even Laviolette was psyched up for that! All they have now is fear, angst, uncertainty, lack of confidence…playing hockey just a CHORE right now and they have to get back to what these kids are showing in this video https://x.com/43wrlds/status/1872276944068456836?s=61&t=Q_IeRBnrZ-SVbj42tngklQ

Drury gets future considerations for kreider lolololol..worse GM second to sather

So, what does Dickweed Drury get for Kreider tomorrow..? A 2nd and a 5th and a conditional 6th?

OK, I’m all on board for baggin’ for HAGENS. Keep LAVIOLETTE! More minutes for the top six! RUHWEDEL on the first pair!! Let’s go!! We can do this! Only 40 more games to lose!!

Re: EMERY, I’ve seen him listed and I know he was among the finalists. He ain’t in this game though, that’s for sure. He might be an alternate or something.

Limbo - I was actually thinking about Dave CARLE. I would do that. He’s a good coach and has done great work with Denver. But I kinda doubt the Rangers will ever go that route again. Sadly, I think the guy who ultimately replaces LAVIOLETTE will be another retread like QUENVILLE.

Hate, hate, HATE the fact that Cole EISERMAN is Islander property. If the Rangers had a third rounder, it would’ve been a good move to package that and the 30th for the 20th. Oh well.

TD - speaking of TEAM USA, what are the thoughts of their HC? Was with MONTY and won a NC. Then took over and has won 2 more in five years. He is pretty young, and never played in the league (heart issue forced him to retire). They are obviously different people, but MONTY made the hop from Denver to the NHL. Do you know anything about him? Would love to get an up and comer and not the goddamn old retread fucktards that we week to always get. It would be a shame if the QUINN experience ruined that option…

TD - lol on HAGENS. TBH - the most Rangery thing ever, other than getting the kid and he flops, we have the worst year since the draft was instituted then lose the lottery and get bumped to 5 when there is a clear top 4…

U.S. already tuning up Germany 10 minutes into the WJCs. PERREAULT with a snipe. And future Ranger first overall pick James HAGENS with a goal. Man, I wish we could get Ryan LEONARD.

Mike Rupp gives a pretty good analysis from a player’s point of view about how players are effected by a bad atmosphere… https://x.com/rupper17/status/1869131242513600603?s=61&t=Q_IeRBnrZ-SVbj42tngklQ

JFC….It says it is impacting the entire team including the younger players…He is hardly the only one slumping but wouldn’t know that reading the article or this board with some exceptions…

mf…I believe Z will require motivation to be moved…I would ask for that list and if not provided he sits….Don’t care who on the team gets upset…Play hardball….Not accepting that level of play for the money you are making….Can he be sent down?…If so do it if need be….

Z'bad submit a small list of trade destinations he'd accept to be moved to yet? NO, he's not obligated to, but if the GM hasn't asked, he won't get an answer. Plan B, send Z'bad to a sports psychologist and start creating a medical file on him so we can place him on the LTIR List until 2030, just like Vegas did, albeit shorter term, to circumvent the salary cap. This is one way to write the next chapter of Z'bad's hockey career history. Foget about buying him out, it's too punitive, and why would we reward this guy with the opportunity to then sign elsewhere and get paid additional Million$$ of dollars? As far as eating salary in a trade to unload him, I'd go $1.5 million per remaining 'max' but prefer to package him with a Kreider or Lindgren and ear 50% of one of those contracts, take the bigger hit this season and or next, and not carry it out an longer.

Well now I know who to blame for Laff’s slump…One goal in 16 games and a minus 15 on the season….It is Zbad’s bad influence…Yet Cuylle and Berard bust it on every shift…What a joke…Z and Kreider deserve all the criticism they are getting…So do Laff and Fox and many others…Please send me some Kreider quotes bitching about his ice time or being scratched..I didn’t see them…I did see Kakko say other teammates deserved it more than he did…Imagine if Kreider said that!….

JFC31 - SELL! Of course at this point, you probably will get less for them than the Rangers got for KAKKO...But if the current state of the team carries into April? That'll be a stomping. I was/am supposed to go to the game against the Jackets on the 18th. College reunion-ish-type thing. I'm seriously thinking about telling the guys we should sell those tickets and just get turned/tuned up at a bar. Even with NYC prices, the cost of admission would buy a lot of beer and wings!

Great example of how coaching can change the tide? And I'm surprised it isn't mentioned more...The goddamn 2018-19 St. Louis Blues. This was a team with everything. Two fantastic dynamic centers in O'REILLY and SCHENN. Sniper in TARASENKO. Rock on D in PIETERANGLEO. Deep lineup with the ability to roll four lines. They were TERRIBLE to start the season. Just getting dominated by teams. And then BERUBE took over...and after some adjustments, the team caught ABSOLUTE FIRE, winning 11 in a row at one point. And this was a team that literally changed nothing except the coach. Sadly for the Rangers, DRURY is more committed to this coach than he is winning, so he's doing what no GM should do, which is trying to shake things up with trades.

JFC31 - Again, I think you're putting WAAAAAAAAAY too much emphasis on the players and what THEY'RE doing. I don't believe for a split second that whatever message DRURY put out to other GMs had anything to do with anything. The wheels were already off the bus when THAT report surfaced. They got dick-stomped by the fucking Sabres. THAT was the beginning of the end, really. And that was two weeks before that stupid report surfaced. And even if you're to believe the letter WAS part of the problem...you know who wasn't mentioned?! Yeah. Everyone's favorite punching bag: ZIBANEJAD. Oh, and as for the other guy still on the team? KREIDER? Larry the Dotard traded him three years ago in a stupid column...And we're to believe a guy with a limited NTC is gonna grouse about that?! C'mon. Ain't nobody spouting off in the lock room. What IS happening, is that these guys are following their pied piper and he's leading them off the ledge. They all know it too. Again, the reason even the guys who were looking good at the beginning of the season are looking bad is because their whole approach is fucked. Teams have solved LAVIOLETTE's system. Literally everyone in the league knows they can do a hard forecheck on the Rangers and they'll win nine out of 10 times. The only time they won't is when SHESTERKIN stands on his head...it's because LAVIOLETTE simply has no answers. He's trying moves of desperation now, and everyone on the team knows it...like swapping JONES out for RUHWEDEL. What fucking coach in their right mind does that?! Pure madness. And then does it AND puts two RHS defensemen on a line together...Also, I'll say this: If you think a vet like Z is spreading bad attitude in the locker room...then you're also believing that LAVIOLETTE and, by extension, DRURY, are too stupid to realize this...Let me tell you...if you think a coach doesn't know what is being said behind his back or in close quarters...then you're basically saying that guy is an idiot...again, the Rangers are WAAAAAAAAY too talented to have the record they do. This is a the team that had a RECORD-BREAKING season six months ago...And we're to believe that they just woke up one day and quit because they were butt hurt about GOODROW or TROUBA or a letter or whatever? C'mon. When you have a good team on paper playing WORSE than the worst team in the league(see: Chicago)...the problem isn't likely the players.

Hospo - yeah, that’s what my original conclusion to my diatribe was going to be but I lost my way….YES, I think the only thing to be done at this point is to turn the page and it’s gonna be more ugliness…just as Drury made a mistake by letting Trouba into that locker room after trying to FORCE him out (WTF did he think was gonna happen?), he can’t make the same mistake with Kreider after Laviolette scratched him. He did it with Kakko and I think he’s got no choice now but to do it with Kreider & Zibanejad. I think Kreider will be gone on Saturday,

JFC - Too funny, but such a great present from your wife! Hopefully by then you will have some optimisim about the future!

JFC - Valid points but, to me, they are all connected and inseparable..The Three heads must be chopped off...DRURY created the virus/disease with his incompetence, clueless handling nd mangement, Laviolette mutated it with his rooster and line management, and the infected vets spread it like wildfire form one vet to another and eventually to every single youngster, all of which who's play has devolved and deteriorted

So, opening up presents yesterday and I open a small box from my wife…intake out a piece of paper that says, “2 tickets, Rangers at Florida Panthers” April 14, 7 PM” and she says, “sorry, I didn’t know they would stink! Maybe they’ll get better by then!” LOL! Pretty much sums it up, doesn’t it? Ugh!

KIS - The ZIBANEJAD hate in this group is just as laughable as it is misdirected. Never win with this guy?!? FFS, he brought them within a game of going to the fucking cup final six months ago. Like I seriously don't know what y'all are drinking to think he's the root of all the Rangers' problems. I mean, seriously. Have you been watching Adam FOX? Vince TROCHECK looks like he's trying...but the dude has been horrible. Same with PANARIN. He makes some nifty moves, but have you seen his stats over the past two months?! And KREIDER. FFS. You're gonna sit here and bag on Z without even mentioning THAT dude?! And LAFRENIERE? Like seriously. How does this all stem from friggin' Z. Totally mystifying conclusion. You've been reading too much of andrei's screed.

Hospo/td/KIS - a GM can produce a negative reaction by how he conducts his business but the toxicity that seems to have poisoned the team is on the players…mainly the vets…and more specifically Trouba, Kreider & Zibanejad. Yes, I think the whole team has been EFFECTED by not necessarily by toxicity Audi g them to “quit.” Yes, I’m sure it’s demoralizing as hell to go through this but I think it’s more a case of DOMINOES falling…stating with the 3 vet dominoes I mentioned. Once thise 3 checked out, there was a DROP IN TALENT on the ice that has destroyed their ability to compete. Add to that the fact that Miller has been out and I also don’t think Bread is 100% either. Whatever the % of culpability is (vets posting vs players quitting on Drury vs drop,in talent from injuries vs drop in talent from vet pouting) is impossible to know but CUMULATIVELY they have led to this disaster. This reminds me of the teacher’s lounges I’ve been in in my career. Those places were where disgruntled, VETERAN teachers would spew their hatred of the administration…principal, superintendent, department chairman, etc. and it had an effect on everyone who was exposed to it. They’d say things like, “they wanna eliminate being able bank SICK DAYS towards retirement? Fine! Then we should all take every fucking sick day that we’re entitled to whether we’re sick or not! They want us to act like security guards by being out in the halls after the bell rings? Then we should all take our time taking attendance before each class to make up for being forced to do things we don’t get paid to do!” And what’s the result? The students end up losing because the teachers are disgruntled…even the young teachers who never even had the old benefits that the veterans lost. It creates a MALAISE on the whole staff, even the young enthusiastic ones who are wondering “what the hell have I gotten myself into?” Regarding the Rangers, if Trouba & Kreider GROUSED in the locker room about their names being made public…if they said out loud, “I guessit’s a right of passage to be fired by MSG” and shit like that, it can have a spirit-dampening effect on everyone! Ya gotta think Zibanejad, Mr. Sensitive, Mr. Empath, has obviously been effected because his brother from another mother is unhappy. And why has Will Cuylle not looked great lately either? Why have his stats gone down? is it because he got a big, fat contract…which is the reason some are saying as the reason that Lafrenière is not producing? Or isn’t his all about CUMULATIVE ingredients…a cascade of negativity? If Kreider & Zibanejad aren’t producing on the ice, then the opposition doesn’t have to KEY on them…that allows them to load up against the Trochek Line, reducing their ability to produce. If Zibanejad is playing poorly defensively, it’s obvious what the effect of that is.so, thisnis as much about straight-up HOCKEY 101 as it is about being disgruntled. But, when you have a loss of depended-upon veteran talent combined with their spewing toxicity, that lead to LOSING, which then leads to LOSS OF CONFIDENCE team wide, which leads to every player playing worse, which then leads to players worrying “who gets traded next? What the hell am I doing here?” and the cycle sound on and on like an ever-strengthening hurricane. I don’t know that a coach’s X’s & O’s have much to do with this…this is an EMOTIONAL breakdown caused by all the ingredients I’ve mentioned.

Detroit has three more losses than the Rangers. So maybe there's hope...Of course, buyer beware...I wouldn't be so happy about the Rangers canning LAVIOLETTE and turning around and hiring a hack like Todd McLELLAN.

TD i understand whst you are saying but one he is now scratching and giving less time to those players. 2 the you ger are showing they can handle the extra onus placed on them. 3 they still should want to win. 4 this group has done this to other coaches and its wrong. When is it their responsibility. Last this team is screwed. Zbad is tied to them until 2030. If he is thatoffened disgusted with the organization ask for a trade. I said 3 yrs ago they would never win with him in the fold and the focal point. As we can see ive beem roght . He is a jackass.

Another GREAT example of bad coaching? Not sure if anyone has noticed by the most successful like the Rangers have iced? FOURTH LINE. Why? Because they dump and chase...do the other lines do this? NOPE. Not at all. Not even for a shift. That means one of two things...either they're not being told to do that or they're not listening...this is EASILY correctable. Tell them to do it. And if they don't do it? Cut their ice. Simple as that. If they still don't do it? Start scratching...same thing with defense...instead of this crazy zone D that they're playing...play man-on-man. Simplify. Give an assignment. Play that guy. You lose that guy? And he scores or has a scoring chance? Grab some wood. Again. These are things a fucking coach NORMALLY does. LAVIOLETTE is not doing them. Even worse, he's basically arbitrarily scratching guys...The KAKKO scratch was 35 flavors of ridiculous. There were a dozen other guys who were more deserving. Or the JONES scratch for RUHWEDEL. Like this is shit no sane coach would do. But LAVIOLETTE knows he's fucked and is trying to do anything that will jazz up his guys. Problem, though, with arbitrarily scratching guys is you have the rest of the team wondering what the fuck those guys did to earn the pressbox and they're coming to the same conclusion I am, which that this guy literally has no clue and is doing things arbitrarily in an attempt to get a reaction.

KIS - Like I keep saying, y'all are getting upset about the car crashing into the tree and not looking at who is driving it. Sure, there's a chance the tires are a little bald and the alignment is off...but this whole decline is operator error. It's a coach who had ONE game plan when he got here. And while it worked at first, it's not working now and he's got ZERO answers to turn it around...the PP alone is a great example of it all...like that first unit has been cold as cold can be...and yet the ONLY way he changes things up with it is when he scratches KREIDER or PANARIN is injured. He just rolls the same stupid line...same stupid formation. No idea how to adjust it at all. Just plain stupidity.

TDCHI - KAKKAO showed the start of what he will become with the Kid line that was also mangled by Laviolette even before he once gain kicked Kakkao to the Curb..As for BORGEN, HATED the quisition but was impressed his first game...After, THBFFFTTT!!! Maybe he already has caught Rangeritis??

JFC. Good article on Zbad but the author didn't do his full research. Zbad's 5 on 5 issues started last Xmas meaning his decline isn't as abrupt as the article is stating.

Newfie_Ranger - More about who his linemates are and what his role is with the Kraken. He is being given the shot three coaches in New York refused to give him.

PJ - we'll see, but man, I watched BORGEN get beaten like a gong on two of the Devils goals. Like bad. The first one, he just backed up and swung his stick at the guy...compared to TROUBA, who he essentially replaced...he is a BIG step down. Necessary physicality? Well great. We gave away that physicality. He is a good sixth/seventh defender. On a cup team, he wouldn't see the ice.

BTW, I came on to post that Yzerman said enough and The Wings have fired Uncle Fester..We need somebody bove DRURY to feel the same...That said, I still expect a firing and/or a Don Maloney like trade (krieder/Lindgren/MIller because ZBAAD is untradeable)) before the Weekend

wildcard - Not sure if it was reported or not but KAKKO asked for a trade after he was scratched...Not saying he should've dogged it in his last game, but he knew he was leaving the team within the week...the point on him is that the Kraken, in his first week, gave him a prominent role on the team. The Rangers...in SIX SEASONS...never did that. Or at least they never committed to it. I can't remember the last time they played him on the top two lines. I seem to recall GALLANT did it one or twice...but never for more than a game, if that. The Rangers squandered KAKKO bad. It started with QUINN. It continued with GALLANT. And then LAVIOLETTE was the icing on the cake...regardless of whether you agree or not, the Rangers are a MUCH weaker team without him, and literally the only way they win this trade is if they land a superstar with the third or sixth rounder. They got taken...BADLY on that deal...and all because they couldn't find role for a very talented player...I mean, FFS. He's better than goddamn Reilly SMITH who fucking got a first line slot just by virtue of the Rangers trading away a second AND sixth rounder for him. Sugar coat it however you want, but the Rangers got fucked hard on that deal. Real hard. That could go down as one of the worst trades in Ranger history. Even if KAKKO ends up being a third line grinder, they literally gave him away. But hey. After the KRAVTSOV fiasco, we should be used to it by now.

KIS - The players are indeed to blame for not being able to summon up the whatever to rise above...but that so many players can't after being one of the closest and hard working teams last year shows just how bad and toxic the situation created by the GM and coach has become and how fast it turned to shit....The tHree Hraded monter of GM/Coach/Vets must go.......Although i hope to be wrong!!!

Puckyou - I ain't gonna absolve players of their role in this, because obviously, they play a big role. But again, the problem is the guy behind the bench is setting them up to fail in just about everything he does. So you as a player...you have two choices...you either keep doing what he says until he gets fired or you tell him to fuck off, do your own thing, and risk getting your ice cut or cut period...My guess is that there is a combination of both going on right now, which is why these guys look so listless and disjointed. A good coach can make an average team great. Likewise, a bad coach can take a good team and make them look very bad. I get why you're fired up about the players...and you should be...but there's simply too much working against them to do anything but lose at this point. Like I keep saying: LAVIOLETTE came in with a good game plan and it worked. Until it didn't. The Panthers solved the Rangers, and then other teams used that game plan to topple them. He needed to adjust two months ago and didn't. Now he's TRYING to adjust, but it's too little, too late. I can't say if the Rangers will rebound with a new coach...but I can tell you one thing FOR SURE: They will NOT rebound with this one. Not a fucking chance. He dug this hole and there's no getting out of it with LAVIOLETTE behind the bench. The question now is whether they fire him now and POSSIBLY salvage the season, or limp by, miss the playoffs and fire him in the spring.

Yiu mean to tell me, trying to get your way trumps pride? How can you as an athlete not be embarrassed to continually lose. How does a kid like Laffy, who started the season strong look like shit. Where sre his leadership traits. How does a you g player like fox who was a Norris trophy winner forget how to play hockey. O get zbad and kreoder pouting they are old players Ask out. Go some place else. Time moves on and nobody beats father time. Other players will take your place and become the go to guy. The player i feel bad for is Quick. He likes it here and may get traded at the deadline. Smh. Im so disgusted in this Ranger team

JFC - Many of us did..! And he was always hard to watch for me and his style even when going well...Now it just poison's everything...Hell, there is a teamwide infection a poison on the heart that emanates from the GM, the coach and vet plyaers like ZBAD...Oh well, enough bad things for today..

Nailed it!” The Fall of Mika Zibanejad.” https://thehockeywriters.com/the-fall-of-mika-zibanejad-a-stars-decline-on-broadway/

“We’re not where we want to be mentally, we’re not where we want to be record-wise, we’re not where we want to be anywhere,” Laviolette said. “It’s not what we’re here for. We’re here to win hockey games, and we’re not doing that right now.”….. pure genius… forget the playoffs and the cup if he’s not fired.

I've no problem shopping any of them but the issue is Dreary's pathetic track record of bring fleeced in trades.

Kreider, Miller and Lindgren are the soup dujour right now. The rumors about K'Andre are that the NYR's have no interest in meeting the asking price his agent says he's looking for. Miller is not having a good season and I can't blame them. The NYR's reportedly have no interest in re-signing Lindgren to another deal.... ALSO: The Rangers have allegedly, been asking about Mason McTavish(with most of the rest of the League, I'm sure).

MerryXMAS to everyone here on the Wall,now NewYears, In regards to our Rangers, well thats another story all together..LOL

Happy holidays to all wallsters. Chill out for a while with a beverage of your choice. This will get worse before it (maybe) gets better. Great Knick game today. Maybe Leon Rose can take over for Drury. The Knicks have player who leave it all on the court. Losing today could have ruined their Christmas so they didn't let it happen.

Anyone willing to admit to having said this? https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10170495381655710&set=gm.4051324795113494&idorvanity=1693892820856715

Coach Peter Laviolette’s honest response was equally damning. “I agree with that,” he said. “The purpose in which we play the game has got to be better.” ….. hopefully he’s gone by January 2,2025. …. After that if it doesn’t solve the problems, then Dolan should fire DD drury before he does more damage.

“We interrupt this meltdown to bring you four days without a desultory Rangers loss. Yes, true, the NHL is closed for the holidays, which only serves to illustrate how far and how quickly the Rangers have fallen. A Stanley Cup contender about a month ago, the Blueshirts have descended into being a punchline like the Giants and Jets (they can’t lose Sunday, they’re on a bye week!). “

Classic- wall of fame material. https://x.com/morningskateked/status/1871932247986864324?s=61&t=PiMEupel_aFEYDXrxYVEEQ

Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to all Wall Bangers near and far!!!! ..............My son got me a Will CUYLLE Aay Jersey because he feels guilty about turning my Grand SON into a Capitals fan!!.He better not get traded!!!.As for the Rangers, less said the better right now..until the weekend!!!!!

Merry Christmas and Happy Hanukkah to all…Looking forward to better days for our Rangers…Certainly can’t get worse…..

Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to all my Wall Family. You all make fandom of this effed up franchise all the more tolerable and entertaining. it has been 20 years now for me on this Wall and I know many of you are much more than that. My wish beyond the obvious changes that have to be made to the Rangers roster and front office is that this wall last for at least another 20-30 years!

Merry Christmas all. May the season bring a desperately needed coaching change!!!

Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to all!! Wishing you all the very best and I’m asking Santa for the #1 pick, a re-boot, and most of all a new GM in 2025. All the best everyone!

Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah to all Wallsters! I remember a lot of Christmas/December slumps, but this one is pretty brutal. At least we should see some changes soon.

Merry Christmas, Wallsters! Let’s hope Santa leaves every Rangers player a new attitude in their stockings tonight!

Happy holidays to everyone. May we have something to root after the trade deadline. May Drury get fired soon. May Dolan get hemorrhoids from watching this team.

Wishing all that pass through here a very Merry Christmas & Happy Hanukkah. May the Traderator shine brightly on our Blue shirts. :-)

Team is against Drury not the coach.drury screwed the pooch with Goodrow and trouba.....if they keep Drury...they will continue to lose can't make them play hard..

andrei: The one major thing that may help his is currently a lack of expectations on the team and there is basically zero spotlight compared to NYC for sports in general and especially NHL. So perhaps the pressure being way off will allow him to be a bit less inconsistent, or at least maybe the down stretches won’t be so heavy for him and he will be able to pull himself out more quickly. But if he doesn’t figure out how to bring some energy and emotion to the ice he will always suffer when the game needs him.

tdchi..it's a "goal' man, he didn't just win the Rocket Richard trophy.......LOL

TD…Not as down on Borgen as you are…He actually is more physical than I thought he would be….But the Finn is a joke and neither add any nastiness…Kudos to Carrick and Trocheck but as a team we are lacking the ability to go back hard on a team…I mean go after Fox and we then plaster Hughes…

You can make changes in players of course but ultimately the coach is often not the issue but it’s easiest to make them pay the price. From my perspective given that the team isn’t and won’t compete I think you have to get rid of the coach and give someone else a shot to get the ship pointed in the right way. I think Laviolette is a dead man walking. I’m hoping that the Rangers can get JT Miller back and despite his immaturity back in the day and maybe still has the issue but I think JT is a much bigger part of the solution than the problem.

Wild, will add this. Problem with Kappo was and still is, it is his consistency. Sure Kappo showed flashes in NY, but they were short stretches, ability to stay engaged and be productive for long stretches was always his issue. Sure, he looked good for a first few games in Seattle. Let's see if he can do it for the remaining 40+ games. My bet, he is going to disappear once again and watch for him to start playing on different lines, till he is scratched, once again. Maybe not, maybe he learned. But my money is on the opposite.

This guy is awesome!! Stat Boy Steven: "In the last month, #NYR rank: 31st in points, 25th in PP%, 16th in PK%, 31st in SA/GP, 26th in games where they score first. Mika Zibanejad ranks: 206th in points, 707th in plus-minus, 374th in 5v5 P/60 (1.05)". Nothing really to add here..

td: the goal was a off the cuff snap shot when the puck ended up in front of him on a faceoff and the shot went through the legs of a turning lineman, he shot the puck, something he doesn’t do often. Already here in Seattle people are saying “if Kakko shot more he would get a lot more goals” based on his few games here. He scored 18 with the rangers once. My end point with him was his last game here. During that game I decided I wanted him traded. He opened his mouth to the press about being so upset about being scratched…then hit the ice, and simply melted into the background and ran through the motions. Showed no life or energy. What does Vesey do after being a scratch? Comes out and scores…but more than that, he made himself visible. Played harder than his norm. Jones the same, picks his play up after he sits a game. Smith did that this year. Got sat, came out playing his best hockey of the year. Again, Kakko gets sat, comes back in and mopes around in the first game back. Enough already. Enough. Enough blaming everyone but him. He got chances. I supported keeping him because he was a solid all around player. But damn, Berard has now replaced him on the right side and he is bringing more to the ice every game that Kakko did…I am surprised Kakko got the return he did at this point…would I have liked more…yep…but the nhl saw what I saw. A young player upset he was scratched again, but not responding to that with effort. Oh. And Kakko did play with top line players in NY. And don’t give the “not for long” excuse. He has been in Seattle 3 games and you used him playing with top liners as something to make a point. He played with Zib and Kreider during those guys beat NHL seasons. He played with Bread during one of his best NHL seasons. What else does the staff need to do for him? At some point it’s on the player. I was beginning to feel that way about Kakko, but still thought he was a guy to keep, u til I saw him lay an egg the first game after a scratch that he was vocally upset about and blamed and pointed fingers at others instead of himself. By the way. Let’s add to this, Mika doesn’t rip himself and this wall loses it mind…Kakko literally says he is t the worst…and somehow he is fine. He said others were more deserving of a scratch…could you imagine Kreider saying that the next practice? I’m sure this wall will support him like they did Kakko.

TD, I remember those teams and referred to them and the lean 7 years without playoffs prior to the cap. However, never saw a mutiny of leadership, a deliberate tanking from a bunch of babies like this team. I am referring to Mika, Kreider in particular here, Fox and Trochek to a lesser degree, that have steered this team into a tree. This group of mean girls who didn’t like the memo that leaked out about NYR open for business. Suck it up, you are supposed to be pros, do your job and it takes care of itself. Suddenly the entitlement group (PP1) decides to play perimeter, not Backcheck, not check, not try. So what do the young kids learn from these “leaders”? This isn’t a team with a Lundqvist calling guys out, demanding effort. You can change the coach for the 4th time, but these guys showed how weak minded they are. There is no fix for quitters. They should have come back this year looking for 6 more playoff wins, instead they took their puck and went home.

Drury's trades remind me of OTBG'S draft picks. Drury needs to be restricted from making trades without getting strict approval. I would not have traded KaKKo, just like many others here would not have..... There's no turning back now, time to bring it down to the studs and reinforce the foundation... Current Starters OUT: ZBad, Kreider, Smith, Lindgren... Possible Starters OUT: Miller, Chytil... Lower Ranks OUT: JONES.... Keepers to rebuild upon: Igor, Panarin, Trocheck, Laffy, Cuylle, Carrick, Fox, Schneider, Mancini, "they should have kept KAKKO!!!" .... Sit Zbad down and qualify whether he will accept to be traded "ANYWHERE" ... any contingencies on where and how he'd accept? Boston? Buffalo? Vancouver? Colorado? Seattle? Dallas? Anywhere! Get him the phck out of here, and until you do, let him watch from the stands, he's getting paid $23,287.67 everyday under contract 365 days per year. Don't like the occupation, you should have checked with OSHA first.

Pj: I agree with the size of Edstrom you would think he would run some devils , but no, no hitting, no emotion. He was playing like he had no equipment on. I’ll take Rempe over him.

Speaking of which, KAKKO had his first goal last night. Go figure: Put a talented player on first line with the franchise center and a good winger and he produces. Strange...so strange how that works.

PJ - BUT..BUT..BUT...I was told Will BORGEN is tough...Was this not true?!! Thought all the teams in the league were trying to get him...don't tell me this was hyperbole.

Puckyou - While there IS an onus on the players, I just want to point out a nuance here that I think is important. My following the Rangers doesn't date back as far as you, but I remember some pretty shitty times. The teams they surrounded GRETZKY with for starters, and leading up to the grand finale of that era: The last team ME$$ier captained, which looked very good on paper, but was just the saddest sack of dogshit I ever saw. THEY were miles worse than these guys. MILES. And there's an important distinction: Those guys started off shitty and got shittier. They were a group of goddamn mercenaries...including their captain...who cared only about the dollars: HOLIK, Anson CARTER, Bobo MIRONOV, MALAKHOV the skier, BARNABY, KOVALEV, RUCINSKY, SIMON and DeVRIES...and of course, LINDROS...They were so lifeless that even JAGR...a guy dogged for years as a money-chasing mercenary...looked like he was flying compared to the rest. Those guys never accomplished SHIT together, yet acted like gods...The icing on the cake that year was when fuckface ME$$ier essentially pulled himself from the last few games and sent all of his teammates an autographed stick as a 'goodbye.' I almost stopped following this team after that season...These guys? This core has gone deep TWICE. They have gotten at least to the finish line. And they started out the year looking good. What you have now is a fucking idiot behind the bench who is directing traffic in a way that no one on the ice knows what they're doing. Great example was the two too-many-men penalties last night. But let's go a step farther. The constant collisions I see out there...all indicative of a team that has no idea which end is up. Whatever system he's trying to employ is confusing the shit out of players and it shows. You may be interpreting it as them not caring...and I'm not gonna sit here and say they don't need to dig deeper. But look: If you steer your car into a tree, you can't get pissed off at it when it crashes.

Getting rid of Trouba and Kakko was bad enough but couldn’t we get someone with a little bit of an edge back for them?….How are we now having the Devils run is in a game…I mean we have a guy the size of Edstrom out there avoiding confrontation in a scrum….

rf4l, there is nothing left to fix or salvage. That ship had sailed. Playoffs? Gone. Math to make the playoffs is now working against them and % to make it, is getting smaller with each loss. They are now at about 20% to make the playoffs. Standing means very little. You can look it up and see that Rangers are just few points away, but it is a mirage. Simple math. You need about 96-98 points to make it as a wild card. Tampa maid it with 98 points. Craps made it with 91, but to be safe, you need at least 94 points. That means that Rangers need to get between 61 to 65 points in 48 games. That meant they need to go at least 30 wins and say 2-3 OT losses in 48 games. That is about winning about .700% , another words, Rangers need to go 7-3 each 10 games rest of the way. That's a very, very tall order even when you are a winning team. With each loss, that % goes down. Say They loose next two games in Florida. That means in order for the Rangers to make the playoffs, they will need to go 30 wins and 2 OT losses in 46 games. That is about winning .750% or 8-2 rest of the way. That's a Presidents trophy pace. If I were to guess, this is how NYR Management viewed it as well and this is why they have not fired Lavi yet. Just no point. Get a temp coach only to clean the coaching staff in April?

Even with the bad teams, you could rout for them as underdogs or enjoy a favorite player or two. Tough to rout for these guys!!!

Puck: Well said. Yeah, I go back to all those days with you and have never been as embarrassed to be a fan.

Been a fan since I was 6 and went to my first game at msg. I saw the GAG line, Brad Park, Giacomin, the run to the cup finals in ‘79 with fat ass Espo (hated him), the lean years where we missed playoffs 7 times in a row, Messier / Leetch teams in 92 & 94 that won prez trophies and a cup, the black and blue teams that almost got to a cup with Henrik and the current team. I can honestly say I have never been embarrassed by this team like I am now. I have seen some bad ranger squads, but never seen quite the absolute quit these guys have shown us. You can blame Drury, Lavy all you want, everyone has an opinion as to what’s wrong. Mine is at the end of the day, whether the players are butt hurt of the way their teammates have been wronged or whatever, you have to play your ass off and not accepting losing. Hate to lose, for you wear the uniform and owe it to the fans but mostly your own reputation. If they thought they were proving Drury or Lavy by mailing it in on a daily basis, well, you ruined it all. Your play, or lack thereof, got not just Trouba and Kakko dealt, but coming very soon, the team ripped apart and rebuilt and many of the players spread across the league, coach fired, maybe Drury too. You had a very good team with pretty much the same cast, but chose to quit and prove a point- now you can’t stop the fall.

The Nyr are a three headed monster, the gm, the coach, and the players. Kid k is probably gone before February. The coach and his staff should be gone before that. And DD drury will be gone if they don’t make the playoffs. Drury is dumb enough to stick with his coach. He will destroy the roster to protect his own ass and lardass. And the next gm will have to figure out who should be his next coach and how to fix the roster. Unfortunately this is what happens when you have a weak gm and a yes man coach both playing cya by blaming the roster. Both are not good leaders which Dolan will deduct from not making the playoffs. And the fans get to swallow this shit sandwich in the meantime. And the paying fans are taken for granted and screwed as usual.

Again. Look at the Bruins. Great example of how and why it’s a good idea to change the guy behind the bench…sadly, had this been done three weeks ago, KAKKO would still be a Ranger. Hell, TROUBA might even still be on the team…regardless, LAVIOLETTE is gone either way. You simply can’t keep the guy who was expected to challenge for the cup this season and instead has given them a 9-16 record since November, and 3-8 in this month alone…so in other words? The Rangers are getting WORSE. It’s not all that surprising, because they are a much weaker, and less talented team now that also happens to be in a funk…but again…you have a coach who is grasping at straws, who is playing a system that has failed…miserably…and despite one of the worst records in the NHL over a two-month stretch, can’t seem to find the right way up…changing the coach may not fix everything, but it sure as fuck won’t make things any worse…you’d have to be a stone cold moron to not see the weakest link here…you don’t just have EVERY player on a team start playing terribly for no reason. This might not ALL be behind the bench, but I’d say 75 percent of it is.

Rangers continue to rot, stink and decay from the head on down starting with Dipshit Drury who has shown for 2 years he has zero knowledge of his team and players to the outdated Laviolette to every stinking vet to the recently infected and struggling kids (not to mention the ones that shouldnt br in the nHL!)..Last twwo games an utter disgrace with today from all 20 players as bad as it gets.....No sense anyhmore in picking out individuals...Team goes nowhere until all three heads are chopped off..

Laff one goal in his last 16 games…Also a -15 on the season…This team slump is about as bad as it gets…I am shocked Laviolette isn’t gone…

Lafreniere Since being resigned with a big pay raise looks-totally lost. No hustle, lazy, no flow and Just going thru the motions. Too busy spending money vs playing hockey.

And Micheletti is going to,get himself fired being so honest about their performance.

The blatant disrespect from the Devils with zero response from the Rangers really irritated the hell out of me. These guys are not a team, are not playing for each other or the crest on their jerseys. Or for the fans that pay the big bucks to see them. How someone did not decapitate Siegenthaler is beyond me. These guys were in their 3 day break before the lick was dropped.

Andrei. You're completely off-base. To absolve this coach of blame tells me (with all due respect) you truly don't get it.

JFC. You and me brother. And lots of others on here. Our loyalty is inexplicable and a curse

From LB’s latest paywall article…he rips into Kreider: “ Kreider, a healthy scratch for the first time since John Tortorella’s reign behind the bench ended following 2012-13, was no victim. In fact, he has been a co-conspirator in both his and his team’s demise over the past month’s implosion. Kreider has as much responsibility as any of them, as much as Mika Zibanejad, as much as Adam Fox, as much as Artemi Panarin, as much as Jacob Trouba had until he was escorted out of town a few months too late. Yes, we know that Kreider, the third-leading goal scorer (315) in franchise history, was cited in Chris Drury’s infamous Nov. 24 memo. We also know that he was dealing with back issues a couple of weeks ago. But the Rangers made it their business to let everyone know that Kreider was not being held out for a medical reason but instead was a healthy scratch. “It was a lineup decision. We need more,” Laviolette said. “At the end of the day, we’re not playing a brand we need to play in order to be successful. Kreider received the lowest five-on-five ice time of the Rangers’ 12 forwards in Sunday’s 3-1 defeat to Carolina and got more than only Matt Rempe on Friday in Dallas. He has scored one goal in the past nine games, an empty-netter against the Stars. He has scored only four power-play goals after getting 18 last season. He has 11 goals and one assist on the season. The scratch, according to Laviolette, was not a message sent to anyone other than the winger. “If I have messages for the rest of the room, I’ll tell them myself,” said the coach, who should be overflowing with messages after his team committed a pair of too-many-men infractions within 7:42 of each other in the second period and allowed PPG’s on each resulting man-advantage. Kreider, who turns 34 on April 30, has two years remaining on his contract at an annual $6.5 million cap hit. I think the contract adds — rather than detracts — value. The Rangers should be able to turn Kreider — who has a 15-team no-trade list — into a meaningful asset or two if Drury moves him. The NHL holiday roster freeze lifts a tick after midnight Saturday, but The Post has been told by a knowledgeable industry source that there is no trade on the table for Kreider and this was not an exercise in “roster management.” We were told that this is purely a decision from a coach who has been loath to hold Rangers veterans accountable. Again, Kreider’s contributions over the past month have been negligible, so it is hardly in the realm of reality to point to his absence as a cause for Monday’s embarrassment, in which it was obvious the Devils had zero respect for their opponents, delighting in hacking and whacking at Fox at every opportunity. They mugged it up and abused the Rangers’ marquee players without a second thought. If this was Instagram hockey, the Blueshirts were back in the two-cans-and-a-string era of communicating. The Rangers’ skill was eliminated. The Rangers’ will was never apparent. They were credited with a sum of 12 shots, one in the first 11:30 of the third period. They had two shots — count them: one, two! — at five-on-five over the second and third periods. There are apparently more Rangers with non-compete clauses in their contracts than no-trade and no-move clauses. Vincent Trocheck dropped the gloves with Paul Cotter at 3:55 of the first period after the New Jersey winger launched himself at Will Borgen — the guy the Blueshirts obtained for Kaapo Kakko — just 25 seconds into the match without a response. “We’ve gotta show more heart,” said Trocheck. “To a man, everybody has got to look himself in the mirror and dig deeper. “We should be embarrassed, the number of times we’ve lost by multiple goals like that and left goalies out to dry.” Panarin, who has scored in only four of his past 21 games, said that the Rangers are feeling the weight of this crash on essentially every shift. The weight of the veterans’ issues has cascaded over the kids. None of them are playing well, either, not Filip Chytil, not Alexis Lafreniere, not Braden Schneider, not even Will Cuylle. The Rangers get three days to themselves over this break. They get three days to look into as many mirrors as they can find. Kreider, too.

Wining covers a lot of problems. It did last year. Presidents trophy means zilch. Said it before, if it did, teams who gets the trophfy would be winning the cup every time, which is not the case. Last year Rangers had a fantastic first line. Line was hot. But they also had decent support. Not great, but good enough. While ZShit's offensive game was declining, he still could defend. Same with Kreider. ZShit line could not score even strength, but they did well defensively. They were a sudo checking line. They played major minutes against other teams best lines. 2024-2025 NYR team is much worst then their record. This team is fucken terrible. Every single line is mess, every single defensive pair is a mess, can't score, can't defend, PP is fucken disaster. There is nothing good about it. Well, maybe goaltending, but it means nothing when the team can't score and defend. Fox's game has gone off the cliff, or he never recovered from the injury. Kreider is a waist of space, whether it is his game that rapidly declining, or it is his back, either way, he is currently useless. All you need to know about ZShit is that the team will be better without him in the lineup and his -19, then with him, and it is a fact. Lindgren is simply begging to be traded. Panerin is hurst and visibly frustrated and his decision making is hugely impacted by the fact that he knows if he can't score and generate offense, no one on this team can. Just too many stupid decisions on his part. In this state, Panerin becoming a liability on the ice. What ever happen to Lafr? Trouchek? Even Chytil is now a no show. There is no will, no desire left on this team. I could be completely off base, but in my opinion, changing coach will mean very little to change the course of this team. Loosing became a norm. It is very, very hard to fix, even if you get a new voice behind the bench. I also think that Drury and team's management knows it as well. Only way to fix it, is the clean the house, retool in the offseason, and start fresh in the fall. But then again, what do I know.

vcp1994 - Nah, man...2022 was a fluke. A bigtime fluke. That team absolutely RODE luck and SHESTERKIN to the Conference finals. They really had zero business being there, and Tampa showed them that quickly...Last season? OK, 5-on-5 was dicey. But we have a PP that was firing off at about 30 percent on most nights. They were the third-ranked PP and third-ranked PK...Also, and admittedly, this is partially anecdotal, the team was at perhaps it's most comfortable coming from behind. There was never any quit. One, two, and even three behind in the first, and they'd come out with the win. You just don't have that at all this season...Yeah, some of it is Z. But man, a MAJOR difference this year is Adam FOX. He is average this year. Average on a good night. Some of his bad nights? He's looked like a shell of himself. TROCHECK, KREIDER and Z are all having career-worst years...LAFRENIERE has regressed back to 2022-23. And CHYTIL still hasn't taken the next step. The only thing the Rangers really have going for them right now is the CUYLLE looks to have improved. Literally the rest of the team looks a step behind or even two from where they were last season...If this were two years out from last season? I could get it. But six months and change from the Conference Finals? Nope. This isn't a personnel. Or at least it wasn't until DRURY pissed away two solid NHLers for two defensemen who are pedestrian on a good day...Still, when MILLER is back, the core of this team should at least be playoff capable...they are not a sub .500 team. Not by any stretch...and that's why it's ever the more mystifying that LAVIOLETTE has a job. He should've been let go the last time the Devils pushed his shit. Now? It's a fucking joke he's still here. I can only hope this is a service to him before the holidays.

President trophy means absolutely nothing....it means players had good regular seasons that's it . . Remember what Gretzky said. There are 3 seasons, regular season, playoffs and the cup finals

Tdchi...not quite true. Last year , trouchek, panarin and laffy had great years, Igor was on another planet and the PP was outstanding....this covered up many of the teams weaknesses..they always had trouble 5v5....however yes they broke lavy system and lost leadership in Goodrow and the trouba fiasco..so only the players really know .....this team was never that good. A one hit wonder.

“The Rangers enter their holiday break losers of 13 of their past 17 games. ”

MC/JFC: My wine is about a month away from being ready, but it is drinkable. I siphoned out five gallons for this week and next. If I keep watching this team, I might need five more. Ahh...let's toast... Buon Natale!!

I will say, this team isn't nearly as bad as its record...Last season was not an anomaly. It's just that teams figured out LAVIOLETTE'S system and he simply doesn't have it in him to design another one. He struggles with rolling lines and still hasn't figured out that if he puts his best players on the PK AND PP, that he's effectively shortening his bench. He built this team on the backs of eight or nine players. Just happens ALL of them are struggling...the way you get out of this funk? Well, first of all, get the guys who are skating the hardest the most minutes. Switch from whatever fucked up zone D this coach has them playing to man-on-man...shake up the PP and promote BO GROULX into the scene. Let's see what ROBERTSON can do too. And when OTHMANN is back? Him too...just deal BORGEN, SMITTY Jr. and hell, even the new Fin VAAKANAINEN. Move RUHWEDEL too. Might as well.

I’ll be somewhat satisfied if lardass is fired. Then I’ll wait for Dolan to figure out he has an empty suit ass licker as his gm. But probably what’s going to happen is that moron will trade away more players before he fires the fossil he hired. And I have no illusions that this team will win the cup in the next 8 years with Mr $11.5 Shazam . It will be a fluke and a lot of luck if it happens.

Rf4l: good explanation of Lav. I hope Drury doesn't make him happy by firing him.

MC - I’m way ahead of you, my Kelowna friend! Nothing else I can do to help so might as well punish myself some more lol

My favs are Rangers and the Giants.....the 2 worst teams in their respective leagues. It is a good thing I have lots of alcohol!

I don’t mean to sound overly dramatic but this season has become heartbreaking & depressing for me. This is my team, has been for almost 60 years. I was so looking forward to last season and then this season. I had thought…and proclaimed here on the Wall…that last season was when their Cup window officially was wide open in my heart and in my mind. They fell short last year but I was anxiously waiting all summer to fire this back up and take another shot. I thought they would drop Trouba to make cap space and then load up for a very serious chance at the Cup. In all my years, I have NEVER seen anything like this a d I’m so pissed off & sad right now….yeah, a gown ass man being made SAD by a bunch of guys making a lot of money playing a GAME! I just want this team to win another Cup…I want to experience it with my son. Yesterday, I see that Ricky Henderson, a guy I marveled at (especially when he was on the Yankees) died. He was 1 year older than me. Geezus Kryste, why does this INSANE SHIT have to happen to my favorite team? I feel like I’m watching us going 5 years backwards with no guarantee of any better results. Fuck me….

time for the culture change...and ditch the illusion your a contender... no more vet lovin coaches...accountability, 2 functional PP units and ice earned not entitled... iMO.. get the coach and see who responds and who does not.. and then get rid of those players.. we want the guys who will go to war and respond... nobody is going to give 100% on any team were the reality is some have entitlements .. it is human nature ..

And agreed there's been way too many dreadful days as a Ranger fan and amazingly rnough this latest fiasco is right up there in terms of dreadfulness. I knew that there were significant gaps on this team that were disguised by fabulous goaltending and their final 4 appearances in 2 out of the past seasons were over-achievements, but a falloff this drastic? Never in a million years. Very odd!!

I see zero reason to expect any trade engineered by Dreary not to end up being a fleecing. Fire his incompetent ass first then let the new GM boot Lardiolette out the door.

I’ve lived through some dreadful times with this team over the many years and this is one of them.. Way back when I can remember being a games at the Meadowlands that were embarrassing to all of us wearing blue. But that today was just pathetic. I can’t imagine how angry I would’ve been if I was at that game. Not only did they get out skated, but they got bullied. With hardly any response Trocjheck and Carrick it’s pretty much it. No anger from the coach? No emotion?

One other quick note? The Devils signed right wing Stefan NOESEN to a two year deal worth $2.6 million. The Rangers TRADED AWAY A SECOND ROUNDER *AND* A SIXTH ROUNDER to get Reilly SMITH at $3.6 million on a one-year deal. Let that sink in after today's game...

You start with the coach. Simple as that. You cannot let this team fall the way it's fallen and expect your coach is blameless. That's first. See if someone else can change things...outside of the Rangers under LAVIOLETTE remarkably awakening and getting a spark? The coach is done anyway. If they don't make the playoffs, he will be fired. So you have two months to turn it around. The only way you'll ever tell if it's possible is with a new coach..the Bruins fired perhaps the best coach in hockey right now and have gone 10-4-1 since...They still got significant issues...but at least SACCO is giving them a chance...This is the Bandaid DRURY needs to rip off...and if they still suck? Then it's time to start trading UFAs...Start with SMITTY Jr. and BORGEN. Take the 'L' on LINDGREN and move him too. The team is gonna get pumped on any trade, so start with that, retool and hope and pray that PERREAULT, OTHMANN and LABA can really bring a revival. But man...even the prospect of retooling isn't a happy thought under this GM. I can really see some awful deals in the making...

TD: cont. from 2-3 in the morning last night.....Something wrong with this 3rd/4th line wing's possession numbers? - Mathieu Olivier: GP:34 - G:9 - A:5 - PTS:14 - =/- (-2) (Hits: 2.5 per game) -2https://www.hockey-reference.com/players/o/olivima01.html

RF73: I read an article last week, I think it was in The Athletic, which looked at the Rangers descent from President's Trophy to garbage in less than a year. The author looked at maybe five comparables from NHL history, but concluded that there really hasn't been a fall as steep as this. Scary thing is that the situation has gotten worse since the article was written.

Keep loosing better off dump Drury and Laviolett.....and then the players .... Them call the sanitation department.

I mean, is anyone really surprised? Their goaltender won the game against Dallas. The game yesterday was a mess. The game today started OK, but ended a mess. Again, we have a team that is just totally lost. They seem thoroughly unable to play man-on-man D, which is as basic as it gets in terms of structure...first period? Not bad. They actually played up-tempo. But second period was a disaster. And by the third period, they were broken...BORGEN-VAKANAINEN is just about as bad of a pairing as it gets in the NHL. I literally have no idea how those guys left the game only -1. I swear I watched BORGEN fuck up on at least two goals. Maybe three. The dude was swinging his stick around on the first one. Like uh...we got you to be a physical presence...and you're stick checking against the Devils?! And then I caught him doing a light lob into the middle for a huge turnover. And then when he DOES decide to go up the boards, it's when three Devils are over there...And on the second PP goal? The dude picked up NO ONE. If he's the envy of the league and all these other teams want him...then let's sell high here. MANCINI was/is a much better player even at this point...TWO too many men penalties? That's called a mismanaged bench...your players literally have their heads up their asses. And then I think I counted at least a half-dozen Ranger-on-Ranger collisions in the second...losing KAKKO, TROUBA and to a far lesser degree, GOODROW has made this an inferior team. They are not nearly as good as they were in October, talent-wise. And without TROUBA, they're not as physical...this team may not be a contender with the personnel they have now...but one thing I DO know...if they are a contender, they won't be doing it with this head coach. He may not be THE problem, but he's sure as shit part of it.

Any team ever go from the President's Trophy to last in the league the next year?...Because the Rangers are trying to achieve / duplicate that diSTINKtion this year!

If you are not concluding that the coach needs to go then there’s nothing else to do except trade the players. It’s the coach.

Every player we trade will do better then they are doing here…..stable management, good coaching and a locker room that plays for each other

Man, so smashing one's unmentionables in a steel vice DID turn out to be the right play...Sorry for all you poor bastards that didn't heed my advice and instead watched the game...

Tom Wilson changed the whole course of this fucking franchise. Davidson Gordon out……Drury in. A proud original 6 franchise with only experience running an AHL team for a very short time…..and here we are grabbing deck chairs off the Titanic

Mika seen dressed and darting out of MSG soon to be cuddling his beau, it’s been a trying day for both of them. Lavy would’ve benched Meek-a, but he gets too emotional, very sensitive. What a f-ing joke this team became virtually overnight.

WOW.....and I mean WOW, does this edition of our beloved Rangers ever SUCK ! Look on the bright side......maybe for just once everyone here on the Wall may agree 100% for the first time ..... LOL

Rhet: And if the new HC gets the same results the trade values decrease at an accelerated rate. Pick your poison, and may the Schwartz be with you.

All of a sudden, KAKKO decides to throw hits? Maybe if he did that more often here, he wouldn't have been traded.

KK's line yesterday? Nearly 15 minutes of icetime a goal, a +1, 3 shots and 5 hits.

I have zero confidence in this GM. NONE. I don't think he knows how to build a team and I don't think he knows what ingredients a team is missing. That said, our players trade value is VERY LOW right now. There is no sense in making trades to get back a low return. Something needs to change. Fire the coach and promote one of the assistants. Wait to put in a more permanent coach when our options are better and not so limited.

So I take it Kreider was not the problem with the PP, nor was the first unit so terrible. They at least kept the puck in the zone. And the PK clearly hates that Kreider is on it as we saw today…

Just think though , only 5 more years and they can get rid of Zibanajab ! Of course, Drury might sign him to an extension

It's beyond obvious the players have given up and are basically waiting for the big move, which should be the firing of Lardiolette. Lardiolette has given up, too. There's no fire in him - his lineup tinkering is half-hearted and he doesn't bother with any in-game adjustments. As I mentioned a week or so ago, he probably really doesn't care that much - he's coached half of the teams in the league, he's 60 years ago, likely financially set and has at least 3 more years of guaranteed pay. Been there, done that in other words so just fire me so I can go home and relax.

It’s been enough losing. But getting bullied by New Jersey all over the ice? Absolutely inexcusable and pathetic. The Rangers should’ve been out there in the third period goon it up going after the Hughes Brothers going after brat all of these guys that were cheap shotting them. And who made Siegenthaler look like Chris Pronger out goon goon it

The organization can say they have no desire to change the coach again but they might not have a choice at this point. If they’re gonna make a change, make whoever is running the PK the new coach…I assume it’s Muse or Peca. If you’re gonna have a new coach, NO MORE DINOSAURS! Muse is very highly regarded, particularly coaching young players! Maybe it’s time to give him a chance! I assume Muse has worked with Gabe Perrault with the US National Team Development program

I'm so glad that I'm not watching, nor did I watch the last game. I did watch the game in Dallas. "Who shot J.R.?" ;->)

SLegs: Z'Bad isn't coming around to anything, trade him. We're not getting a Top line center back in return, because he's not performing line a top line center.

Rangers are 5 points out of 28th overall and 7 points out of last overall. What a freefall.

If Lardiolette is behind the Ranger bench in Tampa I just might finally be done with this fucking team.

How sad it will be the NJD put a fork in this team- I could deal with the Caps doing it but the Devils…

Fire the coach and the players will come back to playing instead of just showing up to lose. They are digging the hole for him.

Lardass better get fired after January 1,2025. He is lost with no answers and no solutions.

The rink is now tilted enough for the Rangers to be issued ice axes. Unfortunately, these listless patsies would know what to do with them. Lavy has quit. Bring out your dead.

PAN and TRO just didn’t even attempt to get back to the D Zone. They both can fuck off.

Shonuff: Great point. We seem to have better luck with our fourth round picks than our top ten picks. Maybe we can trade it for a collections of thirds, fourths and fifths.

10 shots and we are in the 3rd period, if that is not giving up I’m not sure what is.

Also a top 5 with this leadership is useless they will go off the board and draft another European with noted personality issues .

No doubt in my mind this core group already knows the time the last game of the regular season ends . I cannot believe this has happened . I never buy into the “ this game or team ended them “ but I do with Florida . They seem to have quit hockey since that series ended . Z can go change diapers and DJ . Fox will have plenty of time to rest his knee and Laff well … no idea .

The very slight hope I had we could come out of this "funk" evaporated this afternoon. There is no funk--this is a poorly managed/coached collection of physically and mentally soft players. There is no fixing this group. We need to be sellers heading into March and allow the team to collapse into a top five pick. Never expected to be in re-tooling mode so soon, but alas here we are. So disappointing.

An absolute disaster & abomination…two too many men on the ice penalties lead to 2 goals against! There’s no excuse and no recovering from that bullshit! What a fucking shit show!

Laviolette probably won’t deserve it but you can only trim the players. You can always have a coach fall on the sword

RF many players become goons and stronger when there isnt anybody tough on the opposing team. Who is goi g to fight? Fucking zbad? He might hirt his hands and could t DJ. Fox? Chytil ? He gets a concussion from skating too fast. Panarin? Berard? This team is shit and so soft. Must get rid of Lavi and drury? I dont know what Drury is thinking

Wow this team blows. Too bad we didn’t get the fortune of luck to draft Hughes. Maybe we can Hagans this year. Keep this up and it could become a real possibility. They need speed, will/strength/physicality, and bluechip C’s

How to remake this team? - fire coach - replace jones, VAK, R. Smith, EDSTROM, Jonny Bro

Mr. Dolan please get rid of the 2 clowns you have in charge of this beloved franchise. The team is soft and undisciplined.

This team is a mess. This is what a team looks like when there’s no one behind the bench.

Every time they start to get going, they take a too many men on the ice panalty.

I’m done… I will not watch a team not compete… Not only are they being beat on the scoreboard… They are being beat on the ice by the Devils… And they are beating themselves taking stupid ass penalties.

I agree the coach has lost the team but PAN is supposed to be the NYR best forward and he continues to put the team in a bad position with his terrible decisions.

I’m ready for Lav to go…. How in the world can these brain farts continue? Waited too long to hold players accountable

So worse, not an attempted pass but an attempt to stickhandle through a maze of players at the blueline and coughs it up.

Study in a complete meltdown of a team .. and management deer in the headlights....what organization in the league would let this crap go on like this ?? What are u waiting for..

Alparently the players srent to concerned about the job. Still no discipline. Time to get rid of lavi

What the fuck is Panarin doing - that too many men is on him - stopping at the blueline and trying a east/west pass towards the Ranger bench. He's become a turnover machine again. Ridiculous.

RF73: It's bad. Really bad. There's almost nothing redeeming about this team right now. That the Dreary and Lardiolette show is continuing is a big head scratcher for me.

How bad is it when a former number one pick has to defend himself against abuse. Any other team would have 2 or 3 guys jump in to send a message. How pitiful is this team.

RF: a quick perusal of the local clubs indicate that Boston might be a trade partner for one or both of Meak-ahh & or Kreider. Today's 'fickle-me' would rather move 'The Meak-ster' and retain Kreider.

Isn't that 3 games in a row with a Too Many men .. anyway game over.. groceries await .. can't listen to the Devils cast.. sickening

Rangers come out pushing hard, looking like they’re gaining momentum and then they get a too many men penalty…INEXCUSABLE!

TD: RE: Z'Bad, "You're only as good as your last trade!" Welcome to Wall Street! Conform or don't touch the phones or keyboards, as a matter of fact, stay out of the trading rooms. That's Wall Street circa prior to 9/11. (naturally, I'm referring to Meak-Ahh, who has Rich Nash engraved in his brain with, "there's more to life than just hockey, and not referring to you)

Maybe Drury has a deal lining up for KK after the freeze. Maybe trading KK and breaking up the bromance could be his only choice . I wonder if Mika fired up the team in the locker room with his patented “hockey doesn’t matter “speech, at least we’re healthy and have our families. Let’s spin some hip hop and do the Jack Hughes shuffle!

The best parts of the Nyr games are in between periods so my eyes and ears get a rest by walking away from the tv .

Cnparda..it's never gonna happen...that's like asking your cat to bark or your dog to meow . For us oldies on here there used to be a great Tv commercial for Klick and Kam luncheon meat............and the punch line was "it just isn't in me"

Then people wonder why rempe is part of the team. He needs to be there. Otherwise they will get ass kicked

This game here is probably the best reason of all why Rempe has to stop getting suspended !

I would appreciate some physicality from EDSTROM at some point. Your 6”7 and a dude is whacking your best defenseman and you do the stare and bro hug with a devil. CARRICK probably the only one in the lineup who has the balls to go with DILLON, what a gamer.

Markstrom looks like shit but the Rangers can’t put any real pressure on him…

Don’t scratch zbad you might hurt his feelings. Give him more ice time. He deserves every minute.

Markstrom letting out HUGE rebounds but Rangers aren’t there to gather them…

Sweet lord, I’m trying to find an upside with BORGEN, but the dude is a human turnover machine.

Yeah, that was a stinker by Quick.... I wish the NYR's were as confident on defense as they are with their blind passes.

same crap in their own end.. can't clear when they get possession to save their lives.. and a soft goal ..

Far be it for me to yuck someone else's yum, but I will chose watching the NYR game 100 times out of a 100 as compared to any of those other options.

I think smashing one's balls and/or genitalia in a steel vice would probably be more pleasurable than this game, but that's just a suspicion.

KREIDER a healthy scratch, I thought PAN was worse yesterday but what do I know. Not sure where this team goes if LAF, K, Z don’t pick up their game.

Tough choice .. watch the game or go grocery shopping....maybe watch the first and see if it is a game or not .... sad state of affairs..

If it's a "healthy scratch' then he is is not hurting or injured ? So who is trying to fool who on this one ? Or are we just fooling ourselves.

I believe that Kreider came back too early the last time because of all of the drama going on and he wanted to be there for his team mates but you can tell he's still hurting. Back-to-back's can be brutal on the back.... That said, I would be remiss to not mention that Kreider's name has been mentioned quite a bit in trade rumors, most prominently with the Boston Bruins.

Rangers lineup today in Newark: Panarin-Trocheck-Lafrenière Smith-Zibanejad-Berard Cuylle-Chytil-Brodzinski Edström-Carrick-Vesey Lindgren-Fox Jones-Schneider Vaakanainen-Borgen Quick Shesterkin Scratches: Kreider (healthy), Rempe (suspended 2/8), Ruhwedel IR: Miller (upper-body injury)

RF4L - That's basically saying teams NEED Auston MATTHEWS and Connor McDAVID to win a cup. Again. Prior to this season? You couldn't name 15 centers in the league that are better than Z. Not objectively possible. And even if you don't think he fell in the top-15, definitely the top 20. Saying he's a second tier center? That's saying there are 32 centers out there who are better. And if you can make THAT list and stand by it with a straight face...well...I'd say you're not being objective at all.

This is a load of nonsense with ZIBANEJAD. Is the guy having issues this season? Sure. Are they concerning? Yes, if he doesn't rebound. But FFS, people: This guy has carried the Rangers on his shoulders for six years now. He's been a playoff performer. He has done LITERALLY everything that is asked of him. And yet folks here just look for a reason to bitch about him. Like those quotes? The guy is talking about how he has to have a life outside of hockey. Ummm, yeah. He does. EVERY player does. These guys aren't machines. And in that excerpt? The key point is that this guy is level tempered. Again. The guy you want on your team in big situations...I agree, he hasn't looked very good this season. My take is and continues to be there's something wrong with him, because he's significantly slower than last season...but outside of that? He's been the best, most consistent center the Rangers have had SINCE MESSIER fell off the cliff. It's just ridiculous to hear folks hate on him as much as they do. Fuck, when he was nailing 90-plus points in a season, folks like andrei were still saying he sucks...And I'll close by saying this: if Z were traded or shut down for the season? We'd see REALLY quickly how bad the Rangers need Z and what he does for them game in and game out.

I'm affraid that Zbad is just another of those pro athletes collecting a pay cheque until he quits the game. Happens a lot in NBA and NFL but not a lot in NHL. He may have had a love for the game when he was younger but it has long left his body.

Zbad would be fine as a 2nd line centre on a team with a legitimate first line centre and solidly entrenched leadership. If the idiotic Rangers had actually used a couple of their high picks on centres over the years, this might not have been an issue.

Jfc31...I have been saying this about ZBAD for years no cup with him he isn't built for it...no one listens.

Mark Messier probably would VOMIT if he reads Zibanejad’s quotes! He would have had Sibanejad traded so fast it would make his head spin! Think about the Tkachuk brothers….domwe think any one of them would EVER say what Zibanejad said?

From The Athletic. Make of it what you will but to me it confirms exactly what is wrong and to have this attitude in the locker room is not conducive to winning a Stanley Cup. Those who have said we will never win a Cup with Zibanejad as 1C are spot on. You can’t win the hardest trophy in the world to win unless you are OBSESSED with WINNING! What do Zibanajad’s quotes tell you? And it’s become worse ever since he had a child. Sorry, but that is the truth! “ In the earlier stages of both the Rangers’ and Zibanejad’s struggles — his ice time is also down from 19:45 a game last season to 18:19 now — we asked Zibanejad how he blocks out the noise when things aren’t going well. As he has always been, Zibanejad’s answer was thoughtful and honest. “I don’t think just because you think about hockey 24/7 that you’re more passionate, more driven because you think about hockey all the time,” he said. “I think there’s breaking points in terms of, you leave the rink, you have a life outside, other responsibilities. I think hockey is a big part but it’s not everything. Whatever you do as a young guy to take your mind off it at times, when things aren’t good to be able to mentally reset. For me, it’s to be able to talk to my friends, be a human being as well as a hockey player. “What I do is not necessarily who I am.” That sort of honesty can get a player in trouble. Zibanejad is very much a “never too high, never too low” type of professional, which is great when things are going well because it looks as though players like him aren’t satisfied. When it’s this sort of malaise, though, and you’re counted on to help pull the team out of it, that cool exterior and humane perspective can sound like you don’t care enough. Zibanejad is in a different position than his good friend Chris Kreider, who has a 15-team no-trade clause and two years left on his contract at a reasonable $6.5 million cap hit. Zibanejad has five years left at $8.5 million and a full no-move clause, which means he can’t be traded, sent to the minors or waived without his consent. So Zibanejad, whose contract is built around bonuses so it is also essentially buyout-proof, is not likely going anywhere. Nor is his candor or his perspective.”

The only hope for the Nyr is unfortunately to keep losing. Then DD drury will be forced to make the decision on his coach, or start to take real heat from the owner.

In the NHL, the player has to submit a written appeal within 48 hours of the decision. It costs nothing. You might possibly get 1-2 fewer games or nothing. Why the F not? It's worth it, especially when you're talking about your pay.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/sports/nhl/rangers-kakko-buchnevich-trades-have-big-similarities/ar-AA1wmVh4?ocid=msedgntp&pc=ACTS&cvid=a838637ae167451db4d71af6ea5ec2d9&ei=8

Tdchi....rangers won't appeal rangers are the biggest pussies ....Drury and company

It's so obvious to many that the problems start with Lardiolette. What is Drury waiting for? His own walking papers? Today's game is gonna be ugly I fear.

Can’t read this but the first 2 paragraphs, and it tells the tale of a coach who can’t help himself. … https://nypost.com/2024/12/22/sports/rangers-problems-go-far-beyond-mika-zibanejads-ice-time/

And the REMPE suspension? This is a rare moment where I kinda agree with everyone. Eight games is excessive, and the Rangers SHOULD challenge it. At bare minimum, it would show they kid they have his back. But in the league's view? You have a massive kid who punched his way through his NHL debut and took only a couple weeks to establish a cult following. The guy is already blasting people into next month. You know they're going to come down on him like a pile of bricks any time they can. It's not fair, but it's the reality. They can't condone a dude like that running amok...I also agree that he doesn't get NEARLY the scrutiny down in the AHL that he does in the show. This is very true. But you know why that is, right? It's because the AHL refs KNOW REMPE, not just a thug...Regardless...here's the rub: Everyone...the Rangers, the refs, LAVIOLETTE, the opposing team, the league, and most importantly, REMPE himself...everyone KNOWS he's going to be held to a different standard...that's why I genuinely would like to know what the fuck was going through his mind when he stepped into a hit with his elbow raised that way. Like, dude. WHAT DID YOU THINK WAS GONNA HAPPEN?! Best case scenario is that you miss and he gets away with the puck. BEST CASE! So yeah. It's excessive. But not by much. Hopefully, the Rangers appeal, and they knock it down to five or six.

...so why the disparity in ice? Did those...um...mostly successful penalty kills save the game? Fuck no. Did tiring out your top guys who weren't playing very well to begin with help you win the game? Nyet. Like come on, LAVIOLETTE. Think for a second the guys who are in the biggest malaise on this team. They are ALSO the guys you're skating the most, game in and game out. Without fail. And instead of curtailing their duties, you just seem to intensify them. I swear, TROCHECK is going to be skating 30 minutes by the end of this season...I do need to reward good behavior though...he DID, for the first time in forever, send out his second unit PP in the third...but again...we have a coach who isn't playing to the strength of his team...not at least its complete strength. And it's like playing with one arm tied behind your back...Doesn't help, too, that this fucking idiot seems to be enjoying the Chad RUHWEDEL Rival Tour...coming to a city near you...what the fuck does he see in this guy?! Perfect example of how stats can be misleading...dude looks like he had a great game on paper...HE FUCKING SUCKS. Will BORGEN?! I'm going to withhold judgement...I'm not optimistic though...the ONE guy who does look to be better than expected is VAAKENAINEN. Not flashy. Not really noticeable until you slow things down and watch what he's doing...Another guy I'm really warming too? Sam CARRICK. I didn't think I would. I'm still not sold on the idea that there weren't better candidates for his job, and despite what seem to be an ample skill set, I really don't understand how he's as bereft of offense as he is, but he's solid. BERARD is everything I thought he'd be and more. So glad that in the NHL, he's playing the same EXACT style that made him so indispensable for Team USA, Providence College and the Pack. I was worried he might get buried like Ryan BOURQUE..and actually, Jonny MARCHESSAULT before him were...and that he's making the best of his shot...Not much more to say about everyone else. They kinda sucked. SCHNEIDER had his moments, as did CUYLLE...but the rest? Whole bunch of passengers. SHESTERKIN and the cross bar were the only reason that game wasn't 6-1. Not sure I'm going to be able to stomach another shit pushing from the Devils.

Re: The game. Another one where the coach simple isn't learning or at least not nearly as quickly as he should be learning...we also got to see first fucking hand the difference between instructor and student...The game wasn't going Carolina's way. BRIND'AMOUR adjusted. He turned up the volume by essentially pushing a stifling forecheck. The Canes got the benefit of a late PP that allowed them to set the tempo in the second and they fucking did it. They took away every inch of ice from the Rangers...more on this in a bit, because THIS is a major reason the Rangers aren't as good this year...so Ranger gets the puck? ALWAYS a guy on him. Man-on-man. No time for crisp passes. Everything has to be done in motion. Only way to really counter that kind of approach is a PURE north-south game, where you're either dumping and chasing or doing rushes. Requires you to get players crashing the net ALWAYS. Not just once or twice. I mean on EVERY zone entry. This is stupid, low-IQ hockey. It's how you play when your line is low-skill. It's about playing for the chance that someone on the other side will fuck up...BUT...that is how you counter what BRIND'AMOUR was doing in the second and third, after he adjusted...ON THE OTHER BENCH? LAVIOLETTE just folded. And 'because of the penalties'...not my words mind you...he kept the ONE line that would've best countered the Canes on the bench for ALL of the second and most of the third...instead, he kept rolling out guys who have proven time and again that they simple CAN'T play north-south hockey, as counterintuitive as that sounds...I don't think the Rangers played bad. In truth, these past two games have been their best since really the beginning of November...but they're back to letting other teams carry the puck and dictate the play. Tell you what: If I'm an opposing coach? I tell my guys to basically set up in a box around the slot, basically in a formation like the five on dice. Just let the Rangers pass it around the outside. Fuck, let them have the boards. Their shooters suck and hardly ever hit the net. And they almost always refuse to send someone to the net. The only guys on the team, really, who consistently go to the net are TROCHECK, who has been in his own sizeable funk, and now BERARD. Oh and you know who else? THE WHOLE FOURTH LINE...the fact VESEY...who had his best game of the season and was looking like a top-six forward he was originally supposed to be...got only 8 minutes is stupefying. And BERARD 10:30? I think it was BOYLE who was saying 'well, because of all the penalty kills, the fourth line didn't get on the ice much...' Well...OK. I ask why not? It's great to have talented guys like TROCHECK, Z FOX and KREIDER on the PK and all...but why? VESEY was great at the PK and I'm not sure why he's off it. CARRICK has been a PKer his whole career. BERARD is a bit small, but he's got the acceleration to be an effective guy to watch the point. So why

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Hits are great. But I'll say it again, because it bears mentioning whenever hits stats are brought up: The curious thing about hitting in hockey is that you can't really have possession of the puck when you're hitting someone. So you can have a team that beats another team into submission...that DOES happen...but more time than not, it is POSSESSION that dictates the play and the best indicator of the outcome. That's especially against teams that are fast and designed for puck possession...here's what hits stats ALSO don't tell: Your level of forecheck. You can have a hard forechecking team that is very effective and end the game with a handful of hits...Bottom line is the hits stat is very nuanced. Can't really use it unless you have eyes on the game...as we learned with TROUBA and now increasingly with REMPE, sometimes it's not to your advantage to be dishing out big blasts.

JFC: VIBE candidate, pretty perfect bottom 6 RHS Forward, 2.5 HITS per game, built like a tank, priced right salary-wise: https://www.hockey-reference.com/players/o/olivima01.html

We have IGOR at 11.5 we dont need anything else LOLOL.......Oh where oh where is drury my lord oh where oh where can he be.....whats next mr i cant make a trade yet but its ok i will be here for 20 years

good for kakko i hope he scores 30 goals and shoves it in drurys face. Is drury fired yet

The reason we are here, and I saw it coming, was the BS letter and re-tool that WAS a half measure. I knew it was all out the window as soon as they went after UFA Panarin. The half-ass re-tool was over without the right core to build around.

JFC I don’t fucking want to wait years either, but what is the alternative? Hope and rainbows?

Kakko just scored . Maybe Patrick Duffy will be found taking a shower and this was all a dream the season hasn’t started yet .

JFC, you don't think Z, P and K are tanking? If they are not, we are in even worse trouble! Rhet, so you are tired of all the shit Z gets on this site? Well maybe its because he has three 5 on 5 goals all season, strats every powerplay and makes 8.5 mil per year. I cringe every time I seen that frigging Mr. Man-bun. Our best players are playing like shit, that is a fact.

Hits leaders for Rangers forwards vs Canes: Carrick 4, Lafrenière 4, Cuylle 3, Edstrom 3, Berard 1, Panarin 1…all other forwards had ZERO. On D, Borgen 6, Schneider 4, Ruhwedel 3, everyone else 1

Rempe is exciting - for Ranger fans - because we rarely get a player with his grit anymore. That said, he truly is not the sharpest tool in the shed. LOL Newfie on Kakko.

Jack Hughes is a GENERATIONAL player and here we are 6 years later. Yeah, let’s tank…

What does “tank” mean exactly? We expect players to play half-speed or without spirit? This is not a team that needs to set the house on fire 7 months after setting a franchise record for most wins. You guys want to start over? Sorry, fuck that shit…I’m too old to wait another 5 years to MAYBE START contending again. You guys wanna go without them playoffs for 2-3 years? Tank? This ain’t fucking football or basketball where 1st round draft choices turn franchises around over night. Even unreal‘ players like Hughes, Bedard, Celebrini….the teams still SUCK FOR YEARS after they arrive!

This team needs a VIBE….that is a huge part of what is wrong! Say what ya want about Ryan Reaves, but that SHESTY RELEASE US thing he did is the kind of shit that gives these guys a lift….they fed off of that vibe. Last year they had the vibe because Laviolette was a breath of fresh air. But, now they need a PLAYER to bring the vibe…for some reason, Rempe seems to perk them up. 14-3-1 or something like that when he plays…can’t be a coincidence. So the player they need doesn’t have to be a star. Goodrow was not a star but he had that “2 Cup winner” mystique backed by the FACT that he was wide,y seen as the missing link TB needed to win. Rangers players felt that with him on the team, he would be part of finding the Cup-winning code. When Drury got rid of him and Trouba in what was perceived as a DISRESPECTFUL manner, it crushed the psyche/vibe of this team. They need to bring a VIBE back to this team by importing it via a player or players. Adam Sykora has all the characteristics of someone who could be part of a VIBE change but I don’t know if he’s ready, though I’m reading good reports about him in Hartford. Here’s his Elite Prospect report: “ Few players match Sýkora’s intensity on the ice. He’s all-in, every shift. He bounces from opponent to opponent, barely giving them any time to handle the puck, blocks shots like he’s immune to pain, and attacks loose pucks like the fate of the world depends on his ability to catch them. On the backcheck, he pursues escaping opponents and completely neutralizes them.” That’s the kind of ingredients this team needs…a Zucc-type UNDERDOG with a huge motor and a dirty streak….plus, FEARLESS! This team has been fearful for 3 weeks…fearful of trades, fearful of “what’s next.” They’ve gotten some of their energy and tenacity back but they need to make more moves. And Laviolette needs to STOP THE HALF MEASURES!

I liked the effort today although the second period lacked offense…Defensively they were much better than during the losing streak…Many chances to get that second goal and couldn’t convert…Can’t count on killing every penalty and the double minor in a tie game is killer…They almost did it and to me Fox had to play that better…Not sure how it missed Igor’s stick though….Chytil not very visible in this game and Panarin just didn’t look right…PP1 needs to be changed…Get Z off and put Laff on…If Kreider is hurting get Cuylle up there also…I know wishful thinking…

Rempe has been marked since game 1.. big outdoor spectacle .. and a staged fight, NHL did not like that one bit, although Martin challenged he is the vet and the rookie gets the mark .. so when he does anything he's going to get the hammer down on him .. as far as the inconsistency in discipline.. that has been the NHL MO as long as i can remember.. 4th line guy ona star.. big issue.. other way around .. not so much .. it's how Criesbaby got away with s**t for yrs

And as for the game? Who gives a shit? The worse they do in the short term the better IMO. The faster changes will get made. Just wishing for Christmas that the first moves are replacing the GM and coach before dumb ass Drury does more damage. So hard to root for this organization, but I was sucked in decades ago…a PT Barnum special

Well you must realize the NHL already decided the last time Rempe got into trouble that this next time would be 8 games no matter what. Yup, message sent COD. But will Rempe figure it out before the next time? He needs to play on the edge to be effective and that is very heard to do staring down a vengeful league, when plenty of other dirtier players have gotten pass after pass. Must be a Ranger thing. You know where Buttman can stick it.

In regard to REMPE: I was guessing 7 games and this was clearly about sending a message... When I first saw the hit in real time, it looked like it may have been a head shot. The refs seemed to judge it like it was a head shot.... but then, when you slow it down and look at it from the side angle, you see his forearm clearly comes into contact with Heiskanen's left shoulder first. His feet don't leave the ice until both players come to a full stop... He's really not even late either.... You want to make it a suspension, OK, but how in the freaking hell does this qualify for being 8 games? The NHL is a joke.

If the Rangers continue to play with the effort they gave tonight, they will win more games than they lose. But, they still need to make a couple of moves. Zibanejad was better tonight but that is not saying much. And I’ve been angry at Kreider but I agree that jts becoming pretty obvious that he is not physically OK…he is hurting. He’s probably just trying to get through to the holiday break to rest.

That 8 game suspension is a friggin' JOKE ! And just to show you how stupid it really is.........right after it happened the two guys calling the game both said "he left his feet ,used his elbow and it was their best player " The next day sports people on TV were saying the exact same thing. What in the name of the lamp lightin' jesus has him being the best player have to do with anything...........so if it's Jimmy Vesey on our team who got hit like that ,the penalty wouldn't be so severe !!!!! Come on man.

Rangers had BIG problems FINISHING on high danger set-ups both Friday and today…that was the main reason they lost today! Lafrenière must have set up at least half a dozen prime scoring chances and not a single one was converted. Today it was egregious. Friday, he made an amazing pass to Chytil for a one-timer and he got robbed….he didn’t hesitate, the shot was excellent…he just got robbed. He set up Bread for 2 chances Friday and he missed from a sharp angle and hit the post on another. Today, Reilly Smith got robbed because he didn’t lift the puck enough of a Laf feed on the PP. Oh, yeah…the PP…Where Laviolette FINALLY gave PP2 a chance to start and they looked WAY better than PP1. If they are not PP1 tomorrow, then Laviolette will never get it. PP2 has EARNED more PP time over PP1…

dumb play by Rempe .. but NHL's is consistent with their inconsistency.. 4th line player on a "star" .. reverse the situation I suspect the decisions is much much different ...

8 games for Rempe. I am sure that was decided long before his hearing. Reputation clearly plays into these suspensions. No injury. Good thing Heiskanen did not get a concussion or this would have been 15 games.

vcp1994....Kakko is not a very good NHL hockey player, he is just a young hockey player ............soon he will be an older not very good hockey player.

Ever hear the expression 'a fish rots from the head down'? Im not sure where I heard it, but it does seem to apply here. I was wrong before, this is so much more than a slump. It's rot. Something rotten in this organization, I like Trouba and Kakko so Im happy for them. An early Christmas gift to them from the Ranger management.

I am in the re-set not tear down group.. this season is lost unless there is a miracle .. so keep the core youth and Trochek and look to move what u can of the others when Othman is healthy and back in game shape like see him up and given a ice .. and someone else mentioned Robertson .. see what u got or trade him...

Coach talks about 5 on 5 play which they suck at. And doesn’t mention the pp. he’s out to lunch. He’ll be pushing for the retirement plan with pay.

Better doing a tankaton and trading the picks for players and real prospects. Get your electric broom out DD druray . They are all insulating their fans.

Let me try one... So tired of the shit Z gets on this site no matter what he does. It's beyond old already. Panarin quit on the empty netter. If he skated hard to the 2nd guy, we could've stopped the empty net goal and still had a chance in this game. Z did his job and forced the first guy to make a pass.... If Panarin is playing hurt, keep him out until he better. If not hurt, he should be benched tomorrow for at least the first half of the 1st period to send a message(I'm being a realist, he's never gonna be sat for the entire game and very unlikely to be sat at all).

despite being on their heels in the 2nd.. Rangers had 3 clear break ins on goal .. score on 1 .. maybe a different game.. certainly if Krieder scored and made it 2-0 .. not excuses but momentum could have swung on a shortie...

Ranges got nothing from ZShit, Panerin, Kreider, Trouchek and Fox. Expected results based on the 1st sentence. Rest does not matter. You need your stars to show up to win against quality opponents. Does not matter that Shesti stood on his head, does not matter that defence played a good game. Kids had a good game, but means nothing as well.

Zshit with 19 minutes of nothing , Kreider checked out long ago and Panerina is a turn over machine. They all need to go but we are stuck with them ….3 softest players in the NHL

Fox has never been confused with Makar as a skater, but he really doesn’t move his legs out there anymore. The PP1 issues continue, but he is also part of the blame, doesn’t move, rarely shoots anymore. Panarin made some bad plays, but he looks like he’s laboring still.

Lardass doesn’t pay attention to what the canes do. They play defense first . Not the genius coach with the ugliest haircut he might do himself. He has to go for a Christmas present for all .

Another loss despite Igor’s excellence. The usual suspects out on the 6 on 5. ENG the result. This group is a mess. That 3rd pair D. Woof.

IMO Rangers played better than in Dallas.. and finally some accountability with PP2 starting the last PP and the 4th line out late.. still work to do.. they had their chances in the third..

PAN- continues his trash play. Z gets lots of legitimate blame but PAN is everything that is wrong with this team. No defense, lateral play, and putting the team in bind over bind.

High risk plays at the offensive blueline continue.. can't get it into their heads to get the puck deep and not F**K around with it like that

I can't watch since I am in Carolina and it's blocked out.....Doesn't sound like our stars showed up much?

Rangers aren't very good. Non PO from wheei sit. Helps none that the vet loving coach is still there.

Panarin looks off. Probably still battling whatever injury kept him out for 2 games

Expecting Lavy to change anything he's doing at this point is just folly. He's going to keep throwing PP1 out there to start every power play....he's going to continue throwing Zbad out there every chance he can get...either it starts working or he gets fired down the road.

Pretty much the first time the fourth line has ice, and they get a scoring chance. This Coach….

I don't know how IGOR missed that crossed ice pass. Bad luck with the hop there.

RUHWEDEL just got outmuscled by…(checks notes)…Jack ROSOLVIC. I sure hope whatever shit is going on behind the scenes that has lead this jerkoff into the lineup that the reason is he’s about to be traded…

Ice was tilting when you commit too many stupid penalties in a row, BERARD then LAF.

Ice tilting the wrong way .. Canes do not wait they just get the puck deep, let the players tag up onside and then back on the forecheck .. Rangers tend to Hold on more often turn it over.. pucks deep immeduiately

These NHL network guys have hardly talked about the game on the ice. They are chatting like it’s a hockey talk show and there is no game to watch.

started well .. but the over handling the puck at the offensive blueline started to creep in later in the period.. stay simple and move the puck fast N/S .. get it in and go to work

The PP lost every FO .. Rangers are not good at board battle puck recovery IMO .. Wingers remain weak on the boards.. and where the heck is the weak side winger on D coverage.. that cross ice pass against seems like there is always someone wide open for the shot..

PP1 is absolute TRASH! Change it up or give PP2 a chance to start for once! Geezus!

I think the thing that’s hard on Rempe is that…he plays the exact same way in the AHL and he has not once faced supplemental discipline there. The AHL has the same rules and is supposed to be the same in that way, so he goes there, plays, gets “taught” by the officials there how to play and they will give warnings on stuff. So then he gets called up, and everything is different. That’s an issue that needs solved IMHO

Another good sign- wall whipping boy Z went to the net and we haven’t seen that in a long time.

Shesty playing very deep in his crease so far…he needs to be a bit more aggressivel

JFC31...on Rempe.....or maybe he is just too big and strong for this piss ass watered down version of an NHL we are having to watch. You're right though,either way ,he has to smartin' up and change his ways or the League will just edge him out ,suspension by suspension !

I certainly hope they aren't going to trade away assets to try to save this sh!t show. Other than Sid, who on the Pens could help turn this around? And Sid isn't going anywhere. Robertson is a + player so far. He's never done that for an AHL season yet. I don't understand why they don't give him a game or two in NY. Since they traded for 2 Ds that won't likely happen.

Dylan Garand is 4th in the AHL in save percentage and 7th in GAA. Pretty good considering the Pack sit 21st overall in the league. He's no doubt drawing attention from opposing GMs...

JFC: Agreed - it's a dumbass hit from someone who I'm beginning to believe is thick-headed. How could you not recognize the how absurdly wrong that hit would be?

puck: Maybe Robertson? He's apparently being playing very well over the past few weeks. First D pairing with PP and PK time. He's leading the defense in scoring and +/-. This kid may be finally finding his game.

And even though he has not had a disciplinary hearing yet, Rempe is not eligible to play to day! Just great…just when we have something positive effect the team, now that gets squashed because he is so damned undisciplined! The kid can be such a weapon….our record with him in the lineup isn’t a coincidence…but, there’s no point if he can’t figure out simple things like if you see the numbers on the back of the uniform, pull to the side. There’s no way they don’t call that hit on Heiskenen as major…he’s got to be smarter. I put a lot of it on the organizational coaching…this should have been corrected already! That hit means they either haven’t bitten through to him or he just can’t control himself. Either way, it’s not good…ya can’t have that happen

rf4L...yea,that Miller hasn't changed...he has always had the personality of a slug and is always aproblem in any room...I know the type...I had to deal with a couple during my coaching days.

I read that Dubas was at Hartford game, if true, who would they want down there, other than Mancini? Seems like such a NYR move to trade a few kids for an aging Malkinstein or Karlsson (which I doubt as he’s redundant to Adam Fox)

Miller having clashes with Pettersson that is apparently contributing to how the Canucks are playing (not well lately). What it's about I dunno but once again Miller involved in locker room controversy.

JFC. Probably irrelevant because they'd have done to Boldy what they did to KK and Laf. Dumbass coaches who marginalize kids.

@NYP_Brooksie: "We’re told that the #NYR personnel people were all-in on (Matt)Boldy, and that if the ping-pong balls had bounced a different way, GM Jeff Gorton would have calling out the Massachusetts’ native’s name and not the one of the lad from Turku." Dayum!

Jfc31 I did indeed excellent reference by the way....I don't know what to do I fuckin hate drury.....as Popeye would say I yam what I yam..

Any interest in Charlie Coyle? Big boy struggling in Bean Town…natural center who also plays RW

vcp - You’re like Michael Corleone in The Gidfather 3…I thought you said you were done watching the Rangers…but, like Corleone, I guess they pulled you back in! Lol!

Okay, I never got to weigh in on the last period and my overall experience at the game: I, too was thrilled with Rempe up until the hit. However, as stupid as it was I am fine with it for the reason that the Rangers have an excellent PK. I’m sure I’d feel differently if Dallas Scored, but if a player takes a bad penalty and the PK/Goalie kill it off, awesome. The team did its job. Here’s the thing I like about what Rempe brings: everyone is aware when he’s on the ice. The Rangers are more physical when he is in the lineup and he did his job. Again, penalty killed, gamewise: not a problem. But he will be suspended. I thought it was a hit from behind when I saw it, replays confirmed that he saw the numbers. However, he did not leave his feet. The follow through momentum took him off his feet AFTER the hit. Similar to hits we’ve seen before. He did hit the back first and the elbow slid up, but he led with the elbow. That combined with the numbers and he’s suspended. Bummed he’s out of the lineup, but hopefully he’ll learn from it. Rest of the game: Shesty was amazing. He’s good for one slump a year and I thought it would continue after the first non-goal and then the one that counted. But then he was lights out. There was a great Ranger Dan presence. But I wasn’t near many Ranger dans and there were more empty seats than expected. I liked the Dallas production, minus the cheerleaders. The videos were fun. Wasn’t confident in our 3rd pair, but overall there were a lot less defensive gaffes. Infuriatingly, the stars did seem to get behind our D a few times. I wasn’t happy either Panarin after he missed the empty net- he kind of slacked back to the bench even with a star bringing the puck up behind him. KREIDER- definitely looks hurt. He would go in for a check and he looked like it would hurt him if he finished a back. Can’t think of snythjngvrkse except it was a pleasant surprise given what I was expecting and after the first 3 minutes of chaos!

Rempe didn't leave his feet when he was bent over towards the boards is when he got lifted up slightly.. he didn't even elbow him. Michelletti should shut the fuck up.his elbow went it his shoulder blade then as the player bent over contact with elbow and neck was made .. possible those NHL idiots will blow up the picture. ...nope to dam stupid and inconsistent...

E I will take that bet lololol no way ......berard tooo small not fast enough good luck

hey wild, you are a moron if you dont think he left his feet....the video shows it

HOSPO: Berard is gonna be a 20-30 goal scorer in the NHL. At least he has every chance to be an impactful guy.

Top. He did not leave his feet. Get the fuck out of here with made up shit. I have a screen shot post contact where both feet are firmly on the ice. No question.

Chris drury and the whole organization is extremely suspect. Date Trade Grade GM Dec 18 2024 The Seattle Kraken acquired Kaapo Kakko from the New York Rangers for William Borgen, a 2025 3rd round pick and a 2025 6th round pick F Drury Dec 6 2024 The Anaheim Ducks acquired Jacob Trouba from the New York Rangers for Urho Vaakanainen and conditional 2025 4th Round Pick B Drury Jul 1 2024 The New York Rangers acquired Reilly Smith from the Pittsburgh Penguins for a 2027 2nd round pick and conditional 2025 5th round pick F Drury Jun 29 2024 The New York Rangers acquired a 2024 4th round pick (#119) from the Nashville Predators for a 2024 4th round pick (#127) and 2026 7th round pick F Drury Mar 8 2024 The New York Rangers acquired Jack Roslovic from the Columbus Blue Jackets for a 2026 4th round pick F Drury Mar 8 2024 The Minnesota Wild acquired Turner Elson from the New York Rangers for Nic Petan NA Drury Mar 8 2024 The New York Rangers acquired Chad Ruhwedel from the Pittsburgh Penguins for a 2027 4th round pick F Drury Mar 6 2024 The New York Rangers acquired Alexander Wennberg from the Seattle Kraken for 2024 2nd Round Pick and 2025 4th Round Pick F Drury Jun 29 2023 The New York Rangers acquired a 2023 3rd round pick (#90) from the Pittsburgh Penguins for a 2023 3rd round pick (#91) and a 2024 7th round pick NA Drury May 31 2023 The Edmonton Oilers acquired Jayden Grubbe from the New York Rangers for a 2023 fifth round pick NA Drury Mar 3 2023 The New York Rangers acquired Wyatt Kalynuk from the Vancouver Canucks for future considerations NA Drury Mar 3 2023 The New York Rangers acquired Anton Blidh from the Colorado Avalanche for Gustav Rydahl F Drury Feb 28 2023 The Chicago Blackhawks acquired 2023 conditional 2nd Round Pick, 2025 4th Round Pick and Andy Welinski from the New York Rangers for Cooper Zech (part of Patrick Kane double retention trade) NA Drury Feb 28 2023 The New York Rangers Acquired Patrick Kane from the Arizona Coyotes for a 2025 conditional 3rd Round Pick D Drury Feb 28 2023 The Nashville Predators acquired Austin Rueschhoff from the New York Rangers for future considerations NA Drury Feb 25 2023 The Vancouver Canucks acquired Vitali Kravtsov from the New York Rangers for William Lockwood and a 2026 7th round pick. D Drury Feb 19 2023 The New York Rangers acquired Tyler Motte from the Ottawa Senators for Julien Gauthier and a conditional 2023 7th round pick B Drury Feb 9 2023 The New York Rangers acquired Vladimir Tarasenko and Niko Mikkola from the St. Louis Blues for Sammy Blais, Hunter Skinner, conditional 2023 first round pick and conditional 2024 third round pick C+ Drury Nov 23 2022 The Minnesota Wild acquired Ryan Reaves from the New York Rangers for 2025 fifth round pick B Drury Sep 19 2022 The Dallas Stars acquired Nils Lundkvist from the New York Rangers for a 2023 conditional first round pick and 2025 conditional fourth round pick C Drury Jul 13 2022 The Arizona Coyotes acquired Patrik Nemeth, 2025 second round pick and conditional 2026 second round pick from New York Rangers for Ty Emberson F Drury Jul 7 2022 The Colorado Avalanche acquired Alexandar Georgiev from the New York Rangers for 2022 third and fifth round picks and 2023 third round pick A Drury Mar 28 2022 The New York Rangers acquired Maxim Letunov from the Carolina Hurricanes for Tarmo Reunanen NA Drury Mar 21 2022 The New York Rangers acquired Andrew Copp and 2023 sixth round pick from the Winnipeg Jets for Morgan Barron, 2022 conditional second round pick, 2022 conditional second round pick (updated to first), and 2023 fifth round pick D Drury Mar 21 2022 The San Jose Sharks acquired Anthony Bitetto from the New York Rangers for Nicholas Merkley NA Drury Mar 21 2022 The New York Rangers acquired Tyler Motte from the Vancouver Canucks for 2023 4th Round Pick B Drury Mar 21 2022 The New York Rangers acquired Justin Braun from the Philadelphia Flyers for 2023 third round pick F Drury Mar 16 2022 The New York Rangers acquired Frank Vatrano from the Florida Panthers for a 2022 4th Round Pick A Drury Jul 29 2021 The New York Rangers acquired Ryan Reaves from the Vegas Golden Knights for 2022 third round pick D Drury Jul 24 2021 The New York Rangers acquired 2021 third round pick (#75) from Washington Capitals for 2021 third round pick (#80) and 2021 sixth round pick (#176) NA Drury Jul 23 2021 The St. Louis Blues acquired Pavel Buchnevich from the New York Rangers for Sammy Blais and 2022 second round pick F Drury Jul 21 2021 The Seattle Kraken acquired Colin Blackwell from the New York Rangers in the expansion draft NA Drury Jul 17 2021 The New York Rangers traded Brett Howden to the Vegas Golden Knights for Nick DeSimone and 2022 fourth round pick D Drury Jul 17 2021 The New York Rangers acquired Barclay Goodrow from the Tampa Bay Lightning for a 2022 7th Round Pick D Drury Mar 27 2021 The Los Angeles Kings acquired Brendan Lemieux from the New York Rangers for a 2021 fourth round pick C Gorton Oct 7 2020 The New York Rangers acquired 2020 fifth round pick (#127) from the San Jose Sharks for 2020 seventh round pick (#196) and 2020 seventh round pick (#206) Gorton Oct 7 2020 The Los Angeles Kings acquired Lias Andersson from the New York Rangers for 2020 second round pick (#60) A Gorton Oct 6 2020 The New York Rangers acquired 2020 First Round Pick (#19) from the Calgary Flames for 2020 First Round Pick (#22) & 2020 Third Round Pick (#72) NA Gorton Sep 26 2020 The Detroit Red Wings acquired Marc Staal and 2021 second round pick from the New York Rangers for future considerations A Gorton Feb 24 2020 The Carolina Hurricanes acquired Brady Skjei from the New York Rangers for a 2020 first round pick B+ Gorton Feb 19 2020 The New York Rangers acquired J-F Berube from Philadelphia Flyers for future considerations NA Gorton Feb 18 2020 The New York Rangers acquired Julien Gauthier from the Carolina Hurricanes for Joey Keane B Gorton Oct 7 2019 The New York Rangers traded Vladislav Namestnikov to the Ottawa Senators for Nick Ebert and 2021 fourth round pick C Gorton Jul 1 2019 The Buffalo Sabres acquired Jimmy Vesey from New York Rangers for 2021 third round pick A Gorton Jun 17 2019 The Winnipeg Jets acquired Neal Pionk and a 2019 1st Round Pick from the New York Rangers for Jacob Trouba F Gorton Apr 30 2019 The New York Rangers acquired Adam Fox from Carolina Hurricanes for 2019 second round pick and 2020 conditional third round pick A Gorton Feb 25 2019 Columbus Blue Jackets acquire Adam McQuaid from New York Rangers for 2019 4th Round Pick & 2019 7th Round Pick A Gorton Feb 25 2019 Winnipeg Jets acquire Kevin Hayes from New York Rangers for Brendan Lemieux, 2019 1st Round Pick & Conditional 4th Round Pick B Gorton Feb 23 2019 Dallas Stars acquire Mats Zuccarello from New York Rangers for Conditional 2nd & 3rd Rnd Picks C Gorton Jun 23 2018 Carolina traded Vegas' 7th-round pick in the 2018 NHL Draft (previously acquired, 216th overall) to NY Rangers for Boston's 7th-round pick in 2019 (previously acquired). Gorton

The game showed why Drury was always going to give Igor, 11.5 million for 8 years. He alone ensures Rangers make the playoffs and Drury keeps his job no matter what he does. Dolan doesn't give a rats ass about winning a Cup, he only cares about the rangers making the playoffs and the Knicks winning a championship.

His play has deteriorated to the point that he is no longer ZBAD…he is now ZSUCKS…He’s a liability for us when he is on the ice. He needs a change of scenery and we need to not look at him anymore.

For the record, I love REMPE, I don't care how many guys he destroys out there, I've been waiting for a player like him for the Rangers for my whole life. He should be a staple in the line-up. These suspensions just build his reputation. Bottom line, Rangers win when he is in there, period!

Musing to myself.. imagine if u could have combined Kakko's size with Berard's speed and tenacity.. that would be some player ...

Watching the fame last jighr, i thouggt , Rempe you are huge dumbass. You do so many thi gs right and create pP and you go throw an idiotic penalty. Smh

If not for his size, this hit wouldn't have been so bad. Thankfully, his forearm looks like it hit the shoulder first and there is no elbow to the head(at least not from the video I've seen). If Rempe were a normal sized player, we likely wouldn't even be talking about this hit at all.... He is going to miss a minimum of at least 6 games and probably even more knowing this league.

What does Berard provide except hustle?..Big deal he yaps at big guys that he knows really won't do anything against a little fucking munchkin...He keeps up that shit, one eventually will..but he will likel ybe injured before that..But, I'll take BERARD 100X over EDSTROM and his utter nothingness.....All that said, Vesey back in for 5 games I guess...Hope the team can keep the same attitude going against a butt hurt pansy Carolina squad that got mnhandled by the Caps

Jerry_Garcia - Ma dude. HE LEAD WITH HIS ELBOW. You can't even argue that. Instant penalty. Most likely game misconduct. Probably a suspension. That's no bueno. Hit like that just a couple inches to the right could've broken the guy's neck. HEISKENIN isn't short either. The stupid part is if he had kept his elbow down, tucked a bit and used his shoulder? CLEAN HIT. He would've still destroyed HEISKANEN. May have gotten a boarding call, but at the absolute worst? Two minutes.

Rhet0ric - It's funny you mention that, re: BERARD...but my 10 steps of coping with the KAKKO trade, I was thinking the same thing: If KAKKO was still here, BERARD wouldn't be...I would've much preferred to have BOTH in the lineup and moved someone like SMITTY...but I guess if this gets BEEBS a full-time spot and 12-14 minutes a night? That is, in fact, a positive of deal...along those lines too...not to justify the still-dismal return or anything...but OTHMANN is skating again and close to returning...and PERREAULT is right around the corner...He could be here as early as March...so that's two wingers...and with SYKORA also starting to ramp up? I guess a winger had to go, and he was the most logical one TO go...though I would argue that guy was/is SMITTY...but I digress...

No Rempe no win last night. Hit was like all the others players dish out, you turn your back at last moment is your problem. Did not leave his feet and hit with his forearm not elbow. Call on the ice was a joke, NHL refs sucks again. Enjoy Rempe or enjoy loosing. Like last year, I rather see him in ALL the games vs last 10 games before Rempe's return.

Glad to see MSG's ploy with REMPE worked! KAKKO who? Oh we have REMPE! Yay all is well...And as for my 'invective' obeservations on him...Again, we have two paths with the guy: Turn him into a MacDERMID-type player...or develop him into an NHLer. Right now, he's the former with a little bit more speed. That's all. He could be a genuine player, but he's got to use his fucking brain. ANYTIME you lead with your elbow and hit a guy above the shoulders, you're done for the game. And while he was good about it for half the game, that elbow to HEISKANEN was a full-on boner move that, had it not been for SHESTERKIN'S heroics, would've cost them the game. I think he played OK, per se, but it was clear he was pretty much focused solely on hitting people. And with him on that line, fourth line...the same one that was getting basically half the scoring chances each game, pretty much looked like your old-school grinder line. Zero offense...doesn't matter though, cuz REMPE will be gone for the next three to five games...BUT! He served his purpose. Gave fans something to cheer about and not think about how badly the team got taken on the KAKKO deal.

BTW Pack lost 1 0 yesterday and Garand stood on his head apparently. Again. Trade Igor. Barfalo desperately needs goaltending. Send him there for Cozens Sameulsson and Levi.

On REMPE - I think probably too much is made about him, on both sides. He’s not a savior and he’s not a disaster. But, with where this team is currently, IMO, you need to take the good and the bad with him right now. When he’s not suspended, lol, he needs to stay in the lineup and with decent 4th line ice time (10+ mins/game?). Hell, I would sprinkle some specials with him as well.

R47 - because he sucks. Went full Kamensky mode! I would agree with the consensus about a better effort yesterday, but if Igor wasn’t lights out I believe we still would have lost. I like to think I can see the forest from the trees. This team is far off from a SC finalist. I’d rather continue the sell off of vets and re-tool/re-build this year. We need top end C’s in the system. And eventually a younger progressively minded/modern day coach. Think Washington coach. Todd Nelson might be an example. What we’re more likely to see. DD clinging to hope to scratch and claw for a 2nd WC spot to get Jimmy Boy’s playoff gate. This franchise is mired in perpetual mediocrity

Unless it's wrong, the stat I saw from yesterday says that Z had 0 shots on goal.....how can that be???

In person hearing for Rempe, I think that means 5 games? That was a major penalty but not a five-game suspension to go along with it..

wild... you dont think that hit was a major? lol he not only elbowed him but also left his feet. it was a dimbass penalty https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwvzTcAwgmM

Rempe was great but the boarding was just unnecessary. He knows it. But most of the game he was in position and he was keeping heads on swivels. He did inject some energy.

Oh yeah, I am waiting for TDCHI's invective tke on REMPS.....And, yeah, LINDGREN looked the best in a long time......ZBAD is like tits on a bull...just brings little...He can still skate..just needs to wnt it more, engage more..Can he? KREIDER really does look hurt..We need a BIG WING

Cnparda…Last night was the Lindgren we all remember…He had a good game and was very physical…

I am surprised Sam didn't have the stats bout the last time a Ranger plyer DREW 3 penalties (actually 4 after his major!)...That long with helping to bring a much tougher psyche and attitude was key.... :))Hopefully Laviolette weighs the good that Rempe brought last night, the long term good he could bring versus his big mistake.....As someone said, he and the coaches have to help him learn..my biggie is hitting in the back....that's where he needs to hold off...the elbow thing because of his height and getting screwed by the Refs is gonna be hard to change.......ALl tht said....Play REMPS tomorrow!!

Another player who stepped up his game immensely yesterday was LINDGREN. I know he was terrible for a while but I think the Rangers will miss his play if they move him.

With Rempe in the line up, the boys play with a swagger and physicality that is absent when he is. The game has changed in many ways over the days when every team had enforcers, but it is still physical and there needs to be a little fear out on the ice if we do not want to watch the ice capades or a repeat of the last dozen games. Drury needs to be on the phone and privately express his concern to the league bosses for the bias that Rempe receives.

So sit Rempe down and show him clips of Chara hits until he falls off his chair. You learn to drop your aim and bend your knees. He is skating better. Now he needs to be hitting smarter. Give Housley something to do besides picking his nose. Run the video machine.

I think Rempe’s problem is everyone he hits he is taller than it’s that simple . It’s pre determined in his brain probably as long as he has had skates on that after hit hits someone into the boards his head and or face is also going to hit the glass as he is over the opposition . That is the main reason I think his elbow is up . If that’s not worded correctly I Am sure it’s understood .

The rangers need to file a complaint ever time Rempe gets a worse penalty than any player not a fighter would get. That elbow was jot major penalty worthy. Sorry. It jsut wasn’t. There have been worse elbows than that uncalled in the past and many many many that level called two minutes. Refs need to face discipline from the NHL when they alter what they call based on the players involved. We don’t need the nhl getting more like the nba. Yes it was a penalty. No it’s wasn’t worth a major. And then to give him an extra penalty when 3 guys jump him…come on ref. That’s bullshit. Rempe played really great up until that point and he deserved a lot more respect than he got from the refs there.

Rempire…https://nypost.com/2024/12/21/sports/matt-rempe-brought-big-impact-before-ejection-in-rangers-return/

I believe that the Rangers' record with Rempe in the line-up is now 16-4-2. I'm beginning to see a trend here, whether he takes stupid penalties or not. He adds confidence to a very soft team, and that's enough to make a HUGE difference up and down the roster. That record is no accident.

PJ _ Yep, said it earlier, I was impressed with Borgen's game als..could be some crow heading my way on him!

Hospo…Now that you mention it Borgen does look like Vesey…Like two kids in high school…That said I liked Borgen’s game tonight…Not a weak stickchecker in front of our net…Need more of that…

PJ - Glad somebody else agrees with me on EDSTROM..even if wrong!!!! .Been saying that for a long time..... But i do think EDSTROM might play with more balls with REMPs rubbiung off on him,...Is it just me, or do Borgen and Vesey look a little like cousins or inbred step brothers?

Enjoyed the win although was screaming all night at the penalties…Easily best effort in a LONG time…So much more desperation and actually getting to loose pucks…Goalie your best penalty killer and Igor came up big…Great effort all around…Rempe was having one of his better games until the major penalty…Dallas should have got the only minor…That was bullshit…Laviolette in postgame praised Rempe so hope he plays Sunday…Negatives to me were the PP….Z needs to be removed from it completely…Also Edstrom really doesn’t do anything….Even in a scrum he stands there like an idiot…

Was going over the wall from earlier - hidden gem by Stevie - “Bring out your dead”, lol! Classic, haha.

STEVIE - No bets here! which one was i rumored to make? I know you said they would likely win tonight...i wasn't as optimistic...but good to see a win and effort!

RF4L - I hear ya on ZBAD, the guy is a skating shell now, but i did see EDSTROM and CARRICK on at the end......Watching the Caps and Panthers....we have CUYLLE for hitting and banging and some skill but we desperately need a big and strong winger like the Caps have in ..But they don't grow on trees!

NEWFIE _ I know all that..I was praising the kid all night..The Rangers haven't drawn a penalty in 173 mins and 42 sec..yet REMPs draws 3..He can be a big part of the team..will his decision making and Laviolettes love of BRODZ get in the way? We shall see..But, like you, I would take the long look and keep talkign to him and playing him...

The weird thing about tonight's game is that killing off that 5 Minute penalty could be more important to this team's psyche than even scoring a bunch of goals could. Time will tell.

Just 1 goal against, that's always good. The the 2 points and prepare for the next game...

Hospo....listen ,you and I know both that it was yet another dumb penalty by the kid....but you have to look at the big picyure . We have a super star goalie,probably the best PK in the league and I might add ...if we had scored on one or two of those PP chances that Rempe gifted us,we wouldn't even be having this conversation. Rempe probably won't even be dressed if we can get in the PO"S. But if only for that one dumb penalty we would be praising the kid instead of shittin' on him.I think He helped inspire this win tonight .

Certainly put Rempe back in .. but has to be learning experience, be physical but controlled to be effective.. which he was until that play .. IMO

Igor was great but take away the 9 shots during the 5 minute PK and you have a better read on how much better the Rangers were defensively

I agree also…get Rempe back in there. Whether he sticks on this squad is up to him…

Much batter game, better effort. I agree with Newfie/hospo. So Rempe takes a dumb penalty? Kill it off and move on. You know what would have made that less a big deal? How about scoring another goal. The offense sucked for the third period. You have to put Rempe right back in. Rather than what the fat bozo will probably do. Borgen looked OK and looks like he likes to work over opponents which is nice to see from our defense.

Kreider looks back is sore. Rempe back in on Sunday. 2 new defenseman were pretty good. Igor, Fox and Trocheck my stars

Best TEAM effort in awhile but, make no mistake, this game comes down to IGOR nd the teamwide PK... a good smll step out of the muck...nd i put team in CAPS because they haven't looked like a team in ages

I’m not fooled. Shesterkin with the win! They should request to play the entire game down a man

Awesome work by CUYLLE..it's an EN but we need to get Kreider going..but, i'll be honest, he looks like he's hurting after that gol

NEWFIE - You know i love Rempe..but he's gotta learn or he'll be drummed out of the legue like RYAN HOLLWEG..Question is, how to they proceed? I think he can be important to this team so I put him right back in on Sunday, others will fell different..

Rangers have had their sticks active all game long, they’ve contested every pass and every loose puck…they’ve been playing tenaciously…great effort!!

Am I blind .......or did we just kill off the 5 mins caused by Rempe ? It's called hockey ......sit back and enjoy it. Rempe did't just rob a bank or get caught with a DUI.......GEEEEEEEEZ

Rempe needs to smarten up.. plays a strong game and then takes a dumbass penalty .. BUT the team rallies with a strong PK...

And I agree on BORGEN..I have been impressed..there..I said it..And IGOR..oh my god!

JFC - Somehow I think we have said the same exact thing back 2 back like 4 different times tonight..Be afraid!

and it sure shouldn't hve been matching roughing penalties...Stars should have got an extra 2

Rempe goes and wrecks all the good things he’s done tonight with that stupid bullshit! God damnit!

Lafrenière defers to Bread too much tonight…he needs to SHOOT instead of padding to Panarin on the red line at an impossible angle

Pens General Manager Kyle Dubas and AGM Jason Spezza are in attendance for tonight’s Hartford Wolfpack game, seated above Section 114. Hmmm…

Maybe drury told Shazam that his new contract starts next year but it might be with another team if you don’t wtfu

Stevie...........exactly and that's why I kept accusing Kakko of doing "nothing " shift after shift ,game in game out. He wasn't playing to his strengths. but this big goofy kid comes up, works his but off, skates hard and goes to the dirty places and VOILA...draws three penalties before half the game is over. Lessons to be learned here for Coaches and fans alike, in my opinion.

I like what I’m seeing from Borgen in this game! He’s definitely physical in front and he has shown good instincts of when to push and when to retreat

2nd period: Reno’s is the man! And above said before, this team goes as Shesterkin goes. He’s been pedestrian for weeks, and they started out the way he started. They actually are outhitting them and the PK is excellent. But I’m fine not testing them next period!

Been watching the Ranger game the Caps-Canes game at the same time..Caps pounded the Canes...If the Rngers care about performnce in the POs, any moves they make needs to make them stronger and heavier and harder to play against

Well, future Captain Cools looks like a second overall tonight. Takes some of the sting away.

Wow..IGOR solid and spectaacular in every aspect..Have a feeling the 3rd periuod all rests on IGOR..hopefully the Rangers can get a counter goal

For whatever the reason(s), the meetings,the criticality of the situation, the Kakkao/Borgen trade, Panarina back in, Remps up nd playimg, the effort and, exepcially the attitude has been better for2 periods

Newfie too many use the same criteria for every player, instead of looking at what their strengths are. They want 10 panarins .

This is the best we’ve looked in WEEKS! They’re starting to feel confident again…you can see it by the way they’re padding the puck on the PP…both units!

So Rempe does nothing at this level hey ?????????????? LOL to the on believers ...........

Make that 3 drawn penalties form Rempe! He’s having a very good game! He’s making a BIG difference!

REmps drawing 2 penalties ..and making an impact..on his linemates and the entire team vibe (IMWO)

Notes from the back row: game started off wonky. Thought it was going to be 7-0 after the first but then they settled down. Our PK is still good. Rempe destroyed a guy in the Dallas end right below me. You could feel the hit up here! They looked much better at times. Still done defensive gaffs. I noticed Borgen hitting so so r (is he wearing 17?) bread with a terrible turnover but nice to see him out there.

After a nervous start, you could feel a momentum shift after the Smith shorty, the big Rempe hit, then Berard’s tough munchkin moment. Now let’s see if they can build off of it. Still a lot going wrong in their coverages but Shesty was good. If Peca is running their PK, maybe his role needs to be increased…he has that unit at the top of the NHL on a team that otherwise struggles defensively. Whoever is handling the overall defensive scheme maybe isn’t getting it done?

Focusing on the positives- the team looked like they are coming out of their funk. Effort was there, and they are more engaged in puck battles. FOX looks like he used to, which is probably the best sign. Gotta clean up the coverage but a decent period.

REMPE has his warts but when he skates and hits the team changes a little...Hopefully some of the testosterone rubs off on EDSTROM too

Easy for muchkins to jaw at Big guys, nothing ever happens.....Why the fuck is JOnes benched for crap like Ruwhedel and the Fin? Becasue Dickweed Drury aquired those two schmoes??

More size more speed more physicality wanted by lardass . Why stop there you moron of excuses.

Blackwell is still around. Nyr love to feed the league anyone they can. Bring out your dead.

Complete mess in their own end... and wTF .. after Zbad was afraid of Benn on the offside goal .. did Laviolette leave that line out there.. just so he could blow coverage and get scored on anyway .. accountability .. his ass should have been on the bench and that line miss a shift .. my god...

Hey lardass do you and housely both want to be retired? Defense in your own zone is a disaster all year so blame the players.

And there’s our $12m goalie on top of no D. Keep this up and Shesty will request a trade by the deadline. Drury turned this team into a joke. Top 3 pick here we come

Lardass does whatever he wants to and then he blames the players and their mistakes. He’s a sad case of mumbling. He doesn’t believe his decisions and what he does makes a difference. I think he’s ready for the retirement plan and is hoping drury obliges.

CMark hope you have plenty of tissues. Either for the nosebleed or the tears…either way, you’re covered! I hope you have a good time.

Here at the American Airlines Center- lots of Ranger fans! At least one Fire Drury sign so far!1 Rempe Jersey. I’m in the 2nd to last row in the upper deck!

So, Bogen is going to play right on the pair with Scheider, who is going back to his left side. Could be a good pair. Based on reporters, Rangers were looking at Bogen for a while.

Hey can leetch teach fox to skate , take some power skating lessons for gods sake already not a fox but a turtle

Fox needs to go , skates in mud , too small ..get something back he will cry after Lindgren is gone get rid of both......

Carey WILSON was at the very dawn of my Ranger fandom. I remember thinking who the hell is this scrub. But then he was pretty decent at least one of those season…then I was pumped about Jody HULL because I thought he was Bobby’s son, not some scrub! Anywho, Colin WILSON was Carey’s son and I remember wanting HIM on the Rangers for YEARS! He was sick in college, but never really took the next step.

Wait. Wut? Will BORGEN was/is “high” on other GMs’ list(s)?! There’s something high, but it ain’t that player…like really?! That’s where we’re at? BORGEN isn’t terrible. He’s just not that good. Again. TROUBA-lite. Doesn’t have the shot or the speed, but he does love to hit and I guess he’s not much of step down defensively…but a second rounder? First, unless the Rangers are a solid 20 points out of playoff position, ain’t no one getting sold at the deadline. Full stop right there. If anyone IS moved, it’ll be someone who has fallen out of favor or who is getting no ice. Maybe RUHWEDEL or VAAKANAINEN…BORGEN will be gone as a UFA. Ditto with SMITTY Jr. and likely VESEY. In fact, I’d wager that IF the Rangers are less than 10 games out of a playoff position? THEY’LL BE BUYERS. That means the third from KAKKO and the fourth from TROUBA are gonna be pushed for a big slow dumb fuck to hit people and play 9th defender.

You know what? I just figured it out! Drury actually IS working for the Pens after all.

ANDREI - Sorry, you gotta be consistent AND fair in the way you do business with your team/employees...Just Like Laviolette shouldn't show favoritism to guys like ZBAD, Panarina, Kreider over younger players that are performing better and/or trying harder

Hospo, I think there is a difference between Trouba/Goodrow effect and how Fox is impacted personally. Fox is considered to be a cornerstone on D for the next 7 years. You have to approach that differently then trading Goodrow. Again, we disagree on team's effects of trading a 4th line player vs a top pair d-man who is also best friends with your team's best defensemen. BTW, not my observation, heard it more them once from NHL insiders.

Andrei - the problem with that take on a lindgren trade's impact on Fox is that it would take into consideration the human impact on player or players....which, I can see, BUT something Drury sure didn't think about when dealing with Goodrow, Troubs and that moronic letter....ON LINDGREN, I love him, but he's been a ticking bomb for two years with his injuries and durability,,,I would have looked at trading him before and never resinging him...but not now with Troubs gone and, i'm betting, Miller soon..Then again we have Ruwhedel and the Finesse Finn to bail us out

RF- I was expecting a Nils Lundqvist goal, but I guess I’ll have to settle for Colin Blackwell. Hoping Bread plays and looking forward to seeing Rempe in person for the first time. Other than that 7-2 sounds better than 7-0 which I was thinking!

Hospo, Lindgren deal is a hard one to pull. He is very tight with Fox, which is probably why he will traded when they are out of playoffs and probably why he was not traded yet. It is a delicate subject when your closest buddy is getting traded. So would not blame Drury for that. Kappo? Let's wait and see with Borgen. Maybe he will fit in and Rangers will look to re-sign him, or what he brings back in a trade before fully judging who wonlost the trade.

rf4L, I think we need to wait till the trade deadline to see Feeses trade. If Rangers can get something for him is a plus in my book.

BTW andrei: I read that Stapleface article - that was him musing other than repeating what is already known that Dreary has been shopping Vesey with surprisingly enough, no interest.

Just arrived in Dallas at my daughter’s house. Hoping to be entertained by the Rangers tonight but I’m not holding my breath!

And, fuck, I mean WILSON's days as a Flame!..I've lost it...Carey WIlson Casey Wilson Casey De SMith Riley SMith..You can call me ray or ..

Wilson degraded so quickly for the Rangers that we traded him AND futures for Brett Hulll, oops, Bobby Hull, oops, Jody Hull

TRADE - Casey...Carey..whatever...35 years ago for a going senile 65 year old..I think I deserve some points for remembering the deal and when it happened right after the freeze!...Right about SMith's better days with the Flames!!...but he actually had one good year for the Rangers but then he was done...Played much softer then his size also..

Just googled him actually.....I wish Kakko (or Krapshit) had Carey Wilson's stats!

Hospo....i think u are referring to Carey WIlson....who was actually a pretty solid hockey player.......for the Flames i think....lolz

Yup, Drury certainly knows what he is doing. It's been a masterclass in GM'ing over the last year. Not sure if we'll be able to retain him when all the other owners start flooding him with offers to jump ship.

ANDREI - Stapleface should be happy, he wanted KAKKAO, like LAFFY befre him, dealt..And really, happy, happy, joy, joy on those deals..Fringe deals and 4th-5th rounders!....Lindgren held on to too long...Vesey trade meaningless...Smith a useless aquisiton last summer..do we get what we gave up? Even if we do BFD!!.......I don't see any Center depth...No D depth..Hell, I don't even know if we have W depth given what I have seen.....unless all that comes form future draft picks as we build for the 2030 Cup..As for Borgen, have neve been impressed but I need to give him some time and wait and see what he brings.....Still, I think, like Trouba, Drury dealt KAKKAO for the rock bottom price of a 4 months max UFA to be Patrick Nemeth like D-man...

Yup Howden was a good player for us. Another guy who was basically relegated to 4th line and low minutes. Let’s face it. MSG is about the names on the marquee and not really going for the Cup. A round or two in the POs and the owner is happy.

Update from Arthur Staple. Will Borgen was high on other GM's lists and could easily fetch a 2nd rounder at the deadline. Vesey is being shopped and could fetch another 4th or 5th. Lindgen is shopped and TB could be in the mix. Rangers might pick up $ on Smith contract, that should increase his value to a contender. That lone should bring a high pick back. So maybe Drury does know what he is doing after all...

Hospo they just might win tonight. But don’t bet the house on it. At least wrong way druray met with them finally. Guess first he had to finish kissing Dolan’s ring and ass for a few weeks. It’s what empty suits and vests do.

OH and thinking about ZMOPE, he should start watching videos of the 37 year old Anze KOPITAR who doesn't hit either but does everything else his team needs from him to win..Grow some balls Meeka and do something, you are only 31 for crying out loud.....And yes, similar things can be said of other players,young and old, but I was just looking at my fantasy team and I have had KOPITAR for 4 Years running!......DO we get to see REMPE toniight ...for 4 minutes?

Done with the Forensics of this shit show for awhile....But, one look at the rooster as it stands now, given the recent performance of players, this isn't close to a PO team....Kinda shocked a real move wasn't made before the Dallas-Carolina-NJ trifecta...Can't see them winning any of the 3 unless IGOR steals a W for the first time in ages.........................instead it looks like the pissing away of 6 points..which could be the death of Drury (no POs) at the end of the year......................Anyways....I'm getting this feeling that there will be a trade right after the trade freeze and a big one Or trade of a big one) and maybe one I/we don't like.....Bringing back memories of the late 80's when I woke up to watch an early afternoon Ranger game and was met by the news that the Rangers had just traded my favorite DON MALONEY (but who was slipping) and NORM MACIVER for some bozo named Casey WILSON...a deal that worked for nobody!!!

According to Mollie Walker and many others, Trouba not only refused to be traded, but he let it be known to every GM that he would not be happy playing in any other city if he was traded….that caused GM’s whom were interested in him to give up the chase. How is that any different than Drury telling every GM that he is open for business? So, if Drury was trying to trade him to a team that was on his “no bueno” list, he had every right…but, he went further than that. And once he did, Drury’s mistake was not doing what he ultimately did in November…play hard ball. No half measures…that was a HUGE mistake by Drury. He should have ripped the bandage off and been done with it

rf4L...if you rememer .one of my absolute favs when he was here..........stupid move to let him go. But oy he was dissed on a lot on The Wall ??????????????? He is still better than half the forwards we have now !

Look who didn’t go home yet …..https://nypost.com/2024/12/19/sports/chris-drury-met-with-rangers-as-tumultuous-season-hangs-over-team/

Brett Howden on pace for 30 goals. Yet another young player ripped on here and in social media who's done well elsewhere.

KK 13:15 of icetime yesterday. 0 0 0 0 with 2 shots on goal. Sounds like his Ranger stats!!

Bob - Ouch on the Middleton-Hodge reference..I'll have nightmares tonight...Drury bungled the entire Troubs situation over the summer by not working with a guy who hd a NMC...The shit this season, with both to blame, was the result...Horrible, horrible asset mngement on both Troubs and Kakkao..But that is Dumbfuck Drury's calling card

Ya know, all the talk about not being able to equate the behavior of pro athletes to,the behavior of the enrage Joe at a job with a boss they’re angry at simply doesn’t cut it in my book. Yeah, I get it…they’re under a spotlight more than an accountant or a plumber but just because the spotlight is smaller doesn’t make it any less glaring! And here’s the thing…what about PRINCIPLES and doing the right thing? Are pro athletes released from having principles and doing the right thing simply because they have a bigger audience? I was a high school teacher for 25+ years and for 10 of those years I had a department chairman who was known as “Mussolini.” Constantly trying to intimidate people and get people in his department to do ILLEGAL things, like stuffing envelopes for members who were up for re-election. He used to ask teachers in his dept. to gather for lunch and then study envelopes that he put postage on using a Board of Education postage-paid machines! After my first exposure to that bullshit, I stopped going to “lunch.” When he asked me why, I said I was not into politics and didn’t feel comfortable with what was happening. This POS threatened my job (I did not have tenure) but I did not relent. Luckily for me, I taught a specialized subject that very few people in the country are certified to teach. But, he made sure that in the ensuing years, I had the worst schedule, the highest number of kids in class (I didn’t even have enough desks to seat them all one year)despite the fact that I was supposed to have a specialized schedule to compensate for extra duties that teaching that subject entailed…he broke his word and basically said, “what are you gonna do about it?”…all this while the other ass-kissing teachers got rewarded…no-show overtime, no hall duties, no proctoring assignments…many of them refused to speak to me because he told them I was a danger to their cushy existence…he told,them I was gonna rat on them! So, coming back tomthe analogy between athletes hating their GM & the average Joe, should I have taken my anger out on my kids? Should I have dogged it, taught slower, covered fewer chapters, not given difficult tests, let them breeze through some wouldn’t have to grade papers and just give them all good grades so their parents would be happy that they all got 90’s? Isn’t that what some people are suggesting, hoping that the Rangers get rid of Drury by pouting, by not playing hard, by LOSING? Screw the fans, the ends justify the means? Or are the players supposed to have principles and work their asses of despite being angry?

Just more proof that the gm and coach are not helping their players…. https://youtu.be/VsJ99T0RJDw?si=_hpvFUTP2aCfE2Kj

I watched the entire Anaheim game last night. Jacob Truba played better in that game than he played in any game for the Rangers all season long. He was the Truba that they got from Winnipeg when they got them from Winnipeg. Clearly he wasn’t trying, wasn’t putting in the effort before he got traded. The Rangers decide to trade Kakko and they trade him for one of the worst defenseman statistically in the league, and by far the worst on Seattle. And the guys are UFA. So he’s he’ll suck when he gets here and then he’ll walk. It’s near unbelievable that Drury could not get more for Kakko than he did. Meanwhile, he’ll be in the top six and on the power-play in Seattle. Will be watching him score goals for years, play a solid game, he’ll be a different player, but he’ll remind all of us old timers of Rick Middleton for Ken Hodge

NCRanger - You must be in the Christmas spirit ! "6 months"????..Hell, he's made only one smart transaction for the NHL team since Patrick Kane (almost 2 years now) and that's Jonathan Quick! I won't name the names, it's about dinner time! And Not to mention players he didn't get instead!

This will go down as a far worse trade than the Buch one. Book it. Jimmy boy likes to use the phrase “derelict of duty”. Well you know what the weasel DD’s last 6 MO’s have looked like? You guessed it. A derelict of duty. Grounds for dimissal. Listening to B.Boyle while I’m waiting for my daughter to wrap up soccer practice. Says he hasn’t given up on Rangers and thinks they’ll make playoffs (insert crying laughing emoji here). Looks like the MSG cronies got to him too!

Ron Francis says KK will play in the top 6 and get PP time. Hope he blossoms but I will say this: He was rarely put in a position to succeed in NY and here's the opportunity he's been clamoring for. Take it kid lest you settle into a bottom 6 player with limited offensive skill. I think he'll step up FWIW...

Maybe the MSG rules go back to them paying a big settlement because of Isiah Thomas' interactions with female emp0loyees.

TDCHI - I am no Laviolette fan and want him gone but isn't he now, finally, TRYING to do what you say..giving ice time to those that earn it and relegating quitting vets to less and less ice time and elevating others and getting the same result? Has the poison injected by DRURY over the last year been in too long??? and I said Trying becasue his treatment of KK was pure idiocy..and DRURY compounded it by getting nothing for the kid... And I won't even get into Drury's incompetence the last two years but that shouldn't turn a team against him, just make it weaker and unable to compete....Not trying to compete and why is another ball of wax

JFC31 - But the problem there is the same problem with this strange narrative about GOODROW and TROUBA and 'void of leadership' and butthurt players and whatnot...it just DOESN'T TRACK. Look, if the Rangers were pissed off about Ramsey being fired, then why did they storm forth and have a record-breaking season? Why did they carry Dolan's gate receipts deep into the spring? Again...the team is a bunch of professionals. They know the deal. They know any one of them could be moved tomorrow or kicked to the curb. Part of the business. It hurts...and you could TELL with TROUBA that the guy was genuinely hurt...but are you going to stop playing hockey? Are you going to give up? Guys that do? Yeah, that's KAKKO. He got scratched, said enough is enough and I want out. He was trade a couple days later. Any ONE of those players could do the same thing and be gone. Any of them. They don't because they like it in NYC. And the Rangers are a cushy job, so even if KREIDER hates DRURY and DOLAN with every fiber of his being...man, he's gonna go back out there and play hockey to the best of his ability...or face the trade winds himself. This is how it goes...And while I agree...you can't separate life and emotion entirely from career...there is a divide...What's my point in saying all of this? Well, there's what we know and what we can speculate about. What we KNOW is that the Rangers were a difficult team to beat in the first few games. They looked like a SOLID contender, even if there were a couple of hiccups along the way. But again...you have ALL the top players on this team playing in an asolute haze. No exceptions. We can argue about WHY they're in a haze...but the thing that needs to be done and that ISN'T being done is that the coach is doing nothing to change the atmosphere. He is the guy who makes the lines. He is the guy who sends people over the boards. He is the guy who runs practices. He is the guy that SETS THE FUCKING TONE. And people? HE AIN'T DOING IT.

NYStranger - They have either checked out, quit or all are united...You would think a team doing this bad and quitting would have a good locke room brawl to clear the air but noooo they don't even have the energy for that......The next 3 games in 4 days agasint Dallas, Carolina and NJ should be a blast!! Let's see what Xmas present the players send Fat Man and Dip Shit

So why was Ramsey fired? More then likely because of the lindgren debacle when the genius drury had the Nyr playing with 17 because he didn’t put lindgren on ltir and he had hot nuts for Kane. Either Dolan or drury or both wanted him. I think drury was brown nosing Dolan. And he didn’t want him the next season because his nuts weren’t there anymore. So get rid of Ramsey.

Kreider met with the media after the last game….Z the game before and both of them always seem to be available no matter how the game went so saying they aren’t is more bullshit…

I thought about it and since Dolan is the owner who hired drury he can fire drury. And he then can hire a new gm who in turn can decide who he wants to coach the team. Since it’s not the methods it’s the results, drury is failing this season. I can’t wait to say goodbye and let the door hit you in the ass in the way out. He can’t even go for a charisma bypass because he doesn’t have any. I hope he gets to stay home for the holidays including all of next year’s and beyond. Go flip pizza.

The Vince Mercogliano article,is fascinating! Here’s what was said about Kreider regarding the Ramsay firing, which looks like could be related to DOLAN, not Drury! Ramsay was CLOSE to the players and that goes against DOLAN’S rule about fraternizing! Dolan is a SCUMBAG! So, a PR guy was recently fired for having dinner with a player….is it possible that is why Ramsay got fired? And do we think DRURY would refuse to have a video tribute to Ramsey? A former player…all,of whom DEPEND on trainers to keep,them going? NOPE! That’s something DOLAN would do, the same way he BANNED a be,Ives former Knick from attending Knick games! “ Multiple sources indicated the shocking dismissal was framed as an ownership decision and had a chilling effect on the team. Ramsay was beloved by most players, who privately let their displeasure be known. Kreider was among the most aggrieved, with his frustration boiling over Feb. 15, 2024 – the night Ramsay returned to MSG for the first time as head trainer for the Montreal Canadiens. He netted a hat trick in the 7-4 win and was one of several players to embrace their former trainer after the game, yet Kreider curiously declined to speak to the media after being named the No. 1 star of the game. According to one source, it was because Kreider was so upset by the Rangers’ treatment of Ramsay and refusal to acknowledge his return and feared he might not be able to hold that anger back if interviewed.” So, what does this tell us about a Chris Kreider’s motivation? He’s able to TURN IT ON to honor Ramsey? OK, great! But, what else does it say when we all see that he’s playing as if he doesn’t give a shit? He CAN put it into a different gear when he wants to…but, I guess he doesn’t want to because he is showing NO SPIRIT on the ice, no attempt to lead by example…and this has been a pattern his whole career…up & down, up & down!

Usually, the NYR's have up to 5 players available after the game. It usually changes from game-to-game. That does not include pre-game interviews or in-game interviews. The Seattle Game it was primarily Z and TRO in the interviews. Last night's game Kreider was one of the five. Trocheck has been doing a bit more and to me appears to be attempting to fill the void of leadership on the team since the whole Trouba debacle.

One thing I am seeing rather or not seeing or hearing about is - normally when teams flounder and players get frustrated you see guys doing shit out of character such as fighting or taking a run at an opponent or stupid stick work. I have not really seen even that. Has the team checked out that much? Well I have done the only thing I can do. I canceled my msg+/gotham subscription. Not worth a single penny.

I think most fans have this idea that sports team are like one big family and that they all travel together and whatnot...when in reality, they're a fucking business. Upper management doesn't justify itself to the rank-and-file. You get a memo. You do what your told...DRURY has done nothing to suggest he's a good GM and a lot to suggest he's not very good...but this idea of him not communicating with the team? Nonsense. Why? Because that's NOT HIS JOB. He's got a coach to do that. And if the message ain't getting to his team? Well guess who's fault it is...But regardless, the problem with the Rangers is and continues to be behind the bench. The secondary problem is that they have a GM who is unwilling to see the organizational problem, which again...is behind the bench. So bad coach gets bad GM to make bad deals. And that is why we are where we are today.

Sounds like Trocheck is trying to jump into the vacuum a bit. Good for him. Now as for Drury and some kind of meetings to try to get him out or something. I don’t think that would happen. I don’t know how Drury interacts with his team. Frankly I don’t know how Drury interacts with anyone. But a players revolt ain’t gonna fire a GM. They might do that to a coach but frankly the more I watch the less I want Laviolette gone unless no other option is there. Laviolette is a coach and coaches don’t play. Players do. I know Laviolette has somewhat of a short shelf life. But Laviolette isn’t the problem. He can beat the dead dog but it’s still dead. I think Drury has to get thru the malcontents and start structuring this team to win.

JFC - Could be right on the Bromancers...Defientely on the Mixed signals ..But there also mixed performances! It's so murky.....Guys like Tro and Laffy may be talking but they also have been inconsistent as hell, and that's being nice

E - "Do your job" may not even be possible for this situation becasue of failures on all sides..and "Do your job" also pertains to, and is more important to, the GM and coach because, as we all know, shit rolls down hill, not the other direction

And think about this…and it’s conjecture on my part…why have Kreider & Zibanejad cut WAY BACK on speaking to the media…especially Kreider? Could it be because THEY are the ones that are pissed at Drury. This is analogous to TROUBA…he also cut way back on talking before he was traded. In the last 2 weeks we’ve seen mainly Trochek and the kids talking when they rarely did before! THEY need to lead this team now because the other 2 assholes have likely CHECKED OUT just like Trouba did. Drury needs to finish the job! His big mistake as well as Laviolette is HALF MEASURES….lije cutting back on Bromance Bros ice time but then putting them on the 6 on 5 instead of Cuylle & Berard! If you’re gonna send a message THEN SEND IT 100%!

And ya gotta love that nepo baby Dolan and his behavior, his rules and his nastiness! And HE is the guy some of you are depending on getting rid of Drury and hiring someone “better!” THINK!

Trochek has been trying to take over as spokesperson and leader. He wouldn’t bullshit…if they had indeed talked about Drury and he said they didn’t, his team mates would lose respect for him. If he says that Drury is just doing his job and it’s on the players to perform, then that’s what the PLAYERS as a UNIT think, too because he is REPRESENTING the entire team when he goes out of his way to give a quote like that! GM’s don’t play! Via he’s don’t play! PLAYERS play! It’s on the players to win games, not the GM!

JFC - I could believe Tro on that Meeting but I could also believe the players displeasure with Laviolette and/or Drury and talking about it a lot amongst themselves...Too much going on with this team from too many directions...But, to each their own......Let the player performance dictate what's going on.....They somehow regroup, just move forward..they continue to go down in flames on ice, the head needs to get chopped off.;.I am perfectly fine with either scenario now...and, truth be told, may prefer the latter becasue of my views on how totally incompetent Drury (2-3 years) and Laviolette (this year) have been

I’ll say it again…these social media freaks are not to be trusted! Everything with them is wink, wink, nudge, nudge…when they get caught LYING or FABRICATING stories, it’s “no harm, no foul, I’d do it all over again if it gets me clicks & reactions.” They are amoral assholes

Drury can and has done a lot wrong. From the time he took over. From being boxed out against TB because the Rangers lacked the grit and the grind to battle it out. Tarasenko trades that went to the post season without a checking line. And jettisoned by the Devils. To Another season without a checking line and defensive issues but a killer PP and goaltending. And now? A team falling apart from instability stemming from a botched trade attempt during the summer. Drury has a lot to explain for with his inability to get the right lineup and now his goofs with player-personnel have just been a fiasco. The moral to me? Trading or dumping players is par for the course. I see this multiple ways. They’re professionals. Deal with it. As they do. But what annoys me is the flip side teams are giving out no movement and no trades in order to escape AAV. And so this is the latest FU from management to the players. I’ll give you the stability and set you and your family up. Let’s just reduce that term a bit. Save me a few millions in AAV. To 4 years later, give your list, Oh you wont accept any trades but these teams? That doesn’t work for me. So, Im gonna waive you and release you to the four winds. How is this a way to do business? Super cut throat. If I’m the PA, on the next CBA or even addendum I am going to make sure the owners pay for this crap. So buckle up for that ride. But from managements perspective? This is the rules as we agreed. Suck it up and do your job.

Mollie Walker: Vincent Trocheck made a point to speak to us beat reporters to clear the air on a report that the team meeting after the LA game was not about GM Chris Drury. "That could not be further than the truth. If we have a closed-door meeting, with just the players, I think the last that we'd do is complain about our general manager. More from Trocheck: "When we have closed-door meetings in here, it's about us. It's about what we can do. Obviously, we're in a little bit of a hole right now, and it's about what we can do to get out of it. It has nothing to do with management. They do their job. Chris is doing his job to try to put the best players on the ice to succeed. We are those players, and we have to go out there and preform. Do we what can to succeed. I just wanted to clear the air on that. Obviously there's a lot of stuff circulating our team right now and when I see something like that, I don't know where it even comes from. That kind of frustrated me."

The peanut gallery has spoken. Drury can do no wrong. You are watching the results of his actions after winning a trophy . Shitiful.

Yeah, The Isiah Thomas SA lawsuits cost MSG and James Dolan personally, millions of dollars. What did Dolan do? He wanted to hire Thomas back because they were buddies, but the NBA wouldn't allow hi m, so he made him the president of the WNBA's New York Liberty... Good thing Dolan put this policy on place 10 years later.... really on top of it. Having worked in Management for 40 years, I can tell you, there is always the legal rationale why things like this are put in place but it's not always the real reason.

OL "trip-wire" is back putting people down so he can feel bigger about himself. Juvenile.

Seattle Needed a RW, EBERLE went down for a few Months. SMITH is a RW, Smith should have been dealt to Seattle, not KAKKO! IF Seattle didn't have an interest in SMITH, no trade, BFD.

E - I think it starts this evening...and Thanks for the info...I'm a fan, I don't know what all the players are thinking and how wrong or right their feeling are on the actions of drury (Laviolettes roster handling is another story), but I do know this has been so much more than 1 or 2 things..it's been a Perfect Storm of Shit that Drury has presided over (his fault or not)

Tomorrow Dec. 20, 2024: I'M ROOTING FOR DALLAS TO SHELLACK THE SHIT OUT OF THE RANGERS! "LET'S GO DALLAS!"

E: I wish Smith was a signing. It was a trade meaning Dreary wasted a 2nd and a 5th. What he gave up isn't far off from what he managed to fetch for KK. Horrid asset management. Again.

FWIW, does anyone think youre gonna get much for Smith? Garbage signing, done as a player. I’d trade him for a few picks and move up a kid if there is an option. When is the holiday trade freeze start?

I have a friend who is an attorney who has worked for several franchises in several sports. She’s worked in hockey, baseball, and she is currently in MLS. Once I said, “It must be fun to hang out with all these famous athletes.“ She told me that if she is sitting with a player in the room it is for a legal matter. And never socially. People who work in the operations of a sports team are strictly forbidden from having relationships with player. You cannot go to lunch with them. To their birthday parties. Nothing. Ever. They don't even have company parties together. Now inevitably you do converse with players but the players also know that they aren’t supposed to be around operations staff. The reasons are obvious. This is not a sign of some weird Drury totalitarian state. This is the result of attorneys and disingenuous people thru the years I am sure. Probably a few sexual harassment payouts. I’m sure it’s an overreaction to crap like that.

On another topic. I find it funny. And sad really. That the very same folks here who in the past said that they should put a guy in the stands until he agrees to waive his no movement clause are now using what Drury did to Trouba as proof he is a bad GM or is destroying the team. I mean…WTF? What he did is less nasty, he let guys continue to play, he didn’t waive guys and send them to the AHL, he didn’t embarrass them. Kakko it appears asked for a trade, guess when the trade was first thought to be getting close? The day he was traded…the “coaching staff is still looking at things” was waiting to hear if a trade was actually finalized. Then Kakko makes his statements that everyone got hyped up about. Then he goes back into the lineup and plays like he doesn’t care. WTF? Anyway. The fact that the same folks blathered about sitting guys to force trades are upset that they were given an ultimatum about a trade is just pitiful.

Reached out so a friend. That isn’t a Drury rule. Maybe not shockingly, it’s an MSG…aka Dolan, rule. For some reason Dolan doesn’t want staff around team. That to me means someone did something that pissed him off.

The VM story is gaining traction. Here's another take but I'm posting it more for the beyond appropriate photo of Dour Sour Miserable Chris Dreary: https://www.msn.com/en-ca/sports/nhl/rangers-an-employee-dismissed-for-having-eaten-with-a-player-from-the-club/ar-AA1waQQG?ocid=msedgntp&pc=ACTS&cvid=d9596405cc9f48f7b1aac73d32294360&ei=6

Mind you, even tho Dreary gave up a 2nd and a 5th, if he moves SMith there it'll likely be for a 6th rounder!

AOAN: Rumours today that the Canucks are seeking a mid-line right winger and are interested in Reilly Smith. Do it Dreary you incompetent prickjob!

All good Hospo and kudos to that guy if he's citing VM has his source. It's a chilling story though - imagine having to come to work in an environment like that every day? Ugh. If it's creeping down into the room, no wonder the team is struggling.

Furthermore if all that is true, it's more evidence of the small mindedness of the owner. That was sorta known already given how he muzzles the Ranger media, including the hockey broadcasts, and the infamous story where he had someone kicked out of a Knick game because s/he was catcalling him in the stands. Born with a silver spoon in his mouth and never has truly had to struggle for anything. What a complete twit.

RF4L - Sorry my man, I missed your post....Repetition never hurts! But, he didn't steal, he quotes and cites VM all through the article which gives it more credence like , I guess, the VM article you posted

KIS - We agree on TROUBS..totally disagree on KAKKAO..I liked what he was becoming until the last few games of the LardAss and Drury mind fuck era

Hospo: That dude stole that stuff from Vince - I posted a link to Vince's article. It's quite damning and for me clearly shows the dysfunctionality plaguing the organization now and why I suddenly find myself longing for the return of Nob for Life. I think it was widely recognized that Sather kept Dolans at bay in part because Dolans thinks he knows basketball while not having much knowledge about hockey. As VM's article cites, the Sather buffer is gone and Dreary reports directly to Dolans and doesn't have the respect of Dolans that Sather does/did. If all of that is accurate, I see no reason to anticipate much changing. In other words, the Rangers with this regime in place are doomed! Arrgh. KK did the right thing getting himself out there, didn't he?

I've said my piece too often on Drury and Laviolette..and half of me wants the team to lose every freaking game in embarrassing fashion until both are gone...but the other half wins out and I'll be rooting for the few bright spots that are left and somehow hope they can become a semblance of a TEAM again...And LOVE that REMPE is back...even if for only 3 minutes of potential excitement a night..And I know all his warts and why he shouldn't be herte, but this season isn't about winning anymore, I just want a little entertainment

I never do this cut and paste but interesting read from A writer neamed Trvor Collins with alot of quotes from Vince M...make ot it what you will...........................................We now know exactly why things turned ugly between GM Drury and Trouba, Kreider and Kakko An investigative tear down of Chris Drury's reign with damning anonymous quotes from players and staff. Trevor Connors Trevor Connors Published on December 19 2024 at 11:06 AM Share Follow us on Google News Share on Facebook In case you missed it yesterday, the New York Rangers traded former 2nd overall selection Kaapo Kakko to the Seattle Kraken in exchange for depth defenseman Will Borgen and a couple mid-round draft picks. Womp womp... Kakko trade rumors have been in the headlines for years now at this point, but to see the team give up on him for such a little return has to be disappointing to Rangers fans. Disappointing maybe, but surprising? Unlikely. The fact is that the Rangers have made several disappointing moves under GM Chris Drury and a report from Rangers insider Vincent Mercogliano is shedding some light on Drury's process and why it's rubbing some many Rangers' players the wrong way. It's clear that Drury runs the team with an iron fist and doesn't allow dissenting voices to be heard. His first move to de-stabilize his team's psyche was to waive veteran forward Barclay Goodrow and force him out of the team. The move was seen as underhanded by some of the team's core planted the seed of distrust for Drury. Drury moved on to captain Jacob Trouba and spent all offseason trying to move his team's captain, only for Trouba to flex his no-movement clause. Ultimately Drury won the game of chicken the pair were having and Trouba was shipped to the Anaheim Ducks. The former captain made it clear that he wasn't happy with the lack of communication he received from his former GM throughout the process. "I’m not overly thrilled with how it went down," Trouba said. "In my opinion, things could have been handled better." Now, just days after voicing his own frustrations with the team, Kakko is gone too. A team spokesperson has claimed that Kakko's trade had nothing to do with him speaking out against head coach Peter Laviolette on Monday but... who honestly believes that? The kid spoke his mind and now he's on a flight to Seattle... it's not hard to do the math on this one. Rangers players, understandably so, aren't happy with Drury broadcasting Chris Kreider's trade availability to the entire league, also. The news apparently blindsided Kreider and his teammates, as the longest tenured Rangers player has arguably given more to this team than anyone else since Henrik Lundqvist. "It's my job, and 31 other GMs’ jobs, to try and do everything we can to help our team," Drury said in a recent conference call. "There's things at our disposal in the (Collective Bargaining Agreement). I'm not trying to mess with players. I have a ton of respect for Barclay and certainly, as I've said already, for Jacob. I'm just trying to do the best I can to move the team forward and make changes that I think are necessary." Then there's the shocking dismissal of long-time team trainer Jim Ramsay in 2023. The Rangers terminated Ramsay's employment with the team after 29 years without stating a reason. "We don't comment on employee matters," a team spokesperson said. The Rangers' leadership group was reportedly devastated for Ramsay and shared their opinions with management. That's when things got ugly with Kreider and the team, reports say. From Mercogliano: Multiple sources indicated the shocking dismissal was framed as an ownership decision and had a chilling effect on the team. Ramsay was beloved by most players, who privately let their displeasure be known. Kreider was among the most aggrieved, with his frustration boiling over Feb. 15, 2024 – the night Ramsay returned to MSG for the first time as head trainer for the Montreal Canadiens. He netted a hat trick in the 7-4 win and was one of several players to embrace their former trainer after the game, yet Kreider curiously declined to speak to the media after being named the No. 1 star of the game. According to one source, it was because Kreider was so upset by the Rangers’ treatment of Ramsay and refusal to acknowledge his return and feared he might not be able to hold that anger back if interviewed. - Vincent Mercogliano Mercogliano also reports that the Rangers have made significant changes to their front office, scouting, public relations and social media departments. The changes have been described as 'wholesale'. The most damning evidence of toxicity in the organization though comes from an internal memo by the team leaked to reporters. In it, Drury warns that interactions between team staff and roster players could be grounds for dismissal. This reportedly comes after a PR employee had dinner with a Rangers player following a media event. More from Mercogliano: Drury’s memo to all NHL GMs has garnered a ton of attention lately, but it was an internal memo − exclusively obtained by lohud.com/USA TODAY − that reverberated throughout the organization earlier this year. In the aftermath of a PR person being fired for having dinner with a player following a media event prior to the new season, a letter signed by Drury, as well as Knicks president Leon Rose and MSG COO Jamaal Lesane, was distributed to all team employees issuing “a reminder regarding the expectations of behavior when interacting with the players or coaches of any of our Teams.” Staffers were told that “absent written approval from an Executive Vice President (‘EVP’) or above,” they were prohibited from staying at the same hotel as any of the teams under the MSG umbrella, including the minor-league Hartford Wolf Pack and Westchester Knicks, traveling on team flights or buses, or attending team social gatherings or meals, according to the memo. Furthermore, it mandated that employees keep as much distance as possible at the rink. “Interactions between employees and players or coaches must be strictly limited except as necessary to satisfy the requirements of an employee’s role,” it read. “Failure to comply with the directives set forth in this memorandum may result in disciplinary action, including, without limitation, termination of employment.” This was seen as a step too far by many who value the working, collegial relationships between players and staff, including trainers, equipment managers and PR. Some responded by boycotting the next team function after the memo was sent out, according to two sources. - Vincent Mercogliano It's clear to me that Drury is doing everything possible to hold onto his power. He doesn't want his players or his staff to even question him and his methods for a second. If they do, they're history... it doesn't matter if you're team captain, a 2nd overall pick or a beloved team employee with 29 years experience... if you speak out against Drury, you're gone. The only question is... who's next?

Unfortunately I think this need to be done. many of these contracts and payer needed to be moved. The team and this core preached its high. These trades aren't the end. Don't be surprised to see Kreider moved. Hopefully Zbad as well. If leetch , Park Middleton can be moved so can any of these players. organization should have a bunch of money at the Trade deadline. Who knows what will happen and who gets picked up. I don't care about the name on the back. I love the crest on the front. I just want the team to win.

Hospo,but how many people said they wanted Trouba gone. He was no good. He couldn't move. He made too much money. He was selfish. We both said he shouldn't be moved. Now Kakko I still don't get the issue. He was a 3rd liner. He was slow and didn't score much or create much. I don't care if he was the second overall pick. Daigle wa the first overall and couldn't play. It was time to move on. I wish the kid nothing but luck and success. It wasn't happening here and he was going on 6 yrs. I never saw anything to warrant the 2nd overall pick

It just might take loud chants of "DOLANS SUCKS" or "FIRE DRURY" at the next home game to rouse Dolans from his stupor...

“Others are likely to go in the coming weeks and months − but ultimately, it's going to take more than a few trades to rebuild a culture that's springing leaks all over the place. Relationships have fractured and the workplace has become far less enjoyable for players and staffers alike. Too many are spending time looking over their shoulder, rather than pulling in the same direction, and it's costing the Rangers in the standings.”…. All compliments of DD druray, who is kissing Dolan’s ass and ring . The chants of fire drury are close at hand as well as for lardass .

Is Drury fired yet?? For fucks sake, please fire this man! C’mon Jimmy boy. Perform your good deed in behalf of all us Ranger fans for the holidays. I don’t even care who is replacement is. Just want him gone

And Lardiolette will play Rempe for 6 minutes therein ruining the ability to 4 lines and that means more icetime for Zcrap and Kreider! Woohooooooooooooooooooooooo. Dallas 7 Rangers 2

Ranger47 - BINGO. And that's what's even more fucked up. Like seriously. You just TOTALLY fucked the development of one kid...and shipped him out for no appreciable reason other than to preserve the job of a coach who is basically the walking dead...and because the optics of this and every other move over the past two months are so unbelievably batshit crazy, you promote another kid as a publicity stunt in a vain attempt to curry favor with fans...thus stunting HIS development. This gang of hucksters is something else.

The only reason to bring Rempe back is to try a sleight of hand to divert our attention from the "no longer entertaining" product on the ice from waves of boos....

Any of the remaining players feel responsible for contributing to their teammate getting traded? The efforts these Rangers have put in these 15 games has been unacceptable, Mika! Kreider! The last time I was so down on this team was when they traded Brad Park & Jean Ratelle. Congratulations Chris Drury, the sooner you leave the sooner the stench you created clears around here.

Very interesting and quite damning take on the inner workings as MSG. James Dolans is truly a little man and believe it or not, this growing mess is making me miss Nob for Life: https://www.lohud.com/story/sports/nhl/rangers/2024/12/19/ny-rangers-nhl-msg-culture-problem-exclusive-look-behind-the-scenes/77058935007/

If Borgen doesn't resign it means the amazing Dreary paid more to acquire soon to be gone Smith than he fetched for KK. Absolutely ridiculous. This asshole is getting worse at this job, not better and he's going to run the Rangers into the ground.

“The team folded like lawn chairs after Drury’s league-wide trade memo specifically named the Rangers captain, Jacob Trouba, and longest tenured player, Chris Kreider.”….https://nypost.com/2024/12/18/sports/rangers-biggest-problem-cant-be-solved-with-a-roster-makeover/

I’d like to thank Igor for helping dd drury clean house for cap space he’s going to be taking up. I hope he enjoys losing. Too bad players can’t speak up in public to tell how they really feel about the organization. When DD wrong way druray is gone maybe someone will be brave enough. I hope lardass is proud of himself for what he’s and his gm are causing for the team. I can’t wait for karma to come. They are no Keenan and Smith who got the ultimate result from their crazy trades. These two are working on getting a lottery pick which they should trade away for a proven player. The d word fits them and it’s not defense. Kaapo knew how to play the defense needed from a forward. I hope he wins at least one selke trophy in his long future career. I’m sure Hughes and the Debbies are laughing their asses off.

BTW, TROUBS 22 mins tonight..most of any D man..4 hits 6 Blocks +1.in a 3-2 win over a shit team like Winnipeg.....Glad we got rid of all the Dipshit Drury and LardAss detractors..Who's next and for what absurd rock bottom return?

LeoS: I gave my tix for Friday nights game vs the Stars to my nephew earlier tonight. He’s a big Stars fan so he’ll enjoy the game. Had nice center ice seats too. Maybe we’ll come to the Garden sometime instead if they ever turn this thing around. I had no desire to drive 3 hours to see this sideshow.

Dreary to KK and his Ranger teammates: "No, fuck YOU." But it's the fans who are truly raped in all this.

https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/10147807-nhl-trade-grades-kaapo-kaako-dealt-by-rangers-to-kraken-for-will-borgen-and-picks.amp.html Bleacher report did not give us a good grade. Shocked!

Never liked the Drury hire and always thought he was a weasel…Kakko in many ways a victim of expectations to be honest…Second pick overall and although he will never be a star he can be a very valuable player….He wasn’t part of the defensive disaster we have become and he didn’t have a bloated contract…Many other better candidates for a lopsided trade that could have given us more cap space…The whole damn thing is depressing…

Dreary sucks. Kinda suspected from the start (called him Dreary then Bob made me feel guilty for that - you did bud and in here that's rare for me lol) and now I wish I could punch that weasel in the face.

Any narrative that KK couldn’t crack the top 6 that doesn’t acknowledge the purgatory spent with the Dysfunctional Duo (1/3 of the top six) who’ve ruined how many RW’s at this point (?) does disservice to the 23 yo. He’ll prosper in the new environment no doubt, and Titanic deck chairs will continue to be shuffled around the same rotting core we can’t escape from. Bad trade as a sell-low move, Drury not the guy to lead us to new horizons as we all know, so I think “rule of holes” applies here until a shift off the ice occurs , whatever that may be!

I guess told ya’s Kakko had no value. I’ll take the picks. I like the defenseman. He is precisely the type of defender I’ve been calling for. So I’m fine with this. I think Berard can fill that spot. And if he can’t maybe Othmann will get some time. Or trusty Brodzinski. Basically? We need to see a semblance of a checking line. Let them keep going.

Drury’s incompetence reigns supreme. Let’s look at the history. I have no more doubt that he backstabbed Gorton/JD at this point. Then he fires the long-standing NYR trainer Rammer. Another u oooular move. This year - Gooderow fiasco, Trouba fiasco. A nightmarish trade sending KK to Seattle for soeaking his mind - basically just saying what everyone was already thinking or knew. This guy is not only incompetent but is highly egotistical with self-absorbed view of himself. That’s a lethal combination and why you literally see this team burning to the ground before our eyes. If you want out of NY, just talk some shit about the coach and/or GM and your wish will be granted. Drury has little man complex.

Awful trade. 3rd line was our best. Drury sold low to show who is boss. What an asshole. The benched then traded him for speaking out. Rangers are in complete chaos fire Drury before he does more damage.

If schadenfreude would make anyone feel better, my twins' birthday is Jan 4th and since it's the weekend they'd be returning to school anyhow, they asked for Rangers-Caps tix, so we wound up booking an entire family cross-country trip to DC and tix for kids + significant others for that weekend. I defy someone to post a bigger L than that for this year :)

I went back to some of the comments..are some people defending the deal because KK speaking out dropped his value and he had to be jettisoned before going even lower?? Defending Dealing player at his nadir of value rather then to build a talented player baack up, a player who was part of the best line in hockey for over a month THIS SEASON???? ANd for fltsum and jetsum??? Pure utter lunacy..

Anuerysm aside, Did we just trade away the former 2nd over all pick, 1 of the 3 kids the team was basing it's future on, for a UFA to be Rich Mans Patrick Nemeth, and the two picks an incompetent GM wasted on lfetime Ranger to be Riley SMith all because he showed the Organization, coach and drowning GM for what they are???....Asset management at it's worst..

https://nypost.com/2024/12/18/sports/rangers-trade-kaapo-kakko-to-kraken-for-will-borgen-two-picks/

Again, please God trade CUYLLE and SCHNEIDER .please...Let the play when he wants Laffy be the next useless captain! ..Untilvthen, let Pamarina be the leader...Tip Toeing Thriugh The Tulips with the New York Rangers!

Holy F***. Drury just continues to prove me right over and over. This dude can’t make a good hockey trade for his life and is literally burning the team to the ground this year. He hides inside his office and bungles one hickey decision after the next. I tend to agree with you as well TD - KK could very well turn into a very productive top 6’er in Seattle. He is most def rivaling Chiarelli GM status. Like next fucking level bad, like how the fuck does this guy still have a job. Dolan is too blind to realize his early success was all built on the coattails of Gorton/some of JD’s success. What FA’s/drafted players he was in charge of acquiring have had any semblance of success here. Maybe one year if Trochek. That’s it. Z, Kreider, Fox, or any of the other whiny slackers should have been moved first if you want to prove a point. KK was the wrong choice and soon enough everyone will see why. Even if he tops out as what he was, an above average middle sized w/ excellent size and puck control ability. You need those dudes in the playoffs. So he gets traded b/c he said what everyone was thinking?? For fucks sake, this franchise is fucked as long as DD and Lav are running the show. I’ve never felt as much despair about this team as I do right now. To think I spent ~$700 for btb tix while in NYC with my daughter last week. Damn I wish I could get that money back. I hope they finish dead fucking last. I’m sure he’d fuck uo the draft too. Is it bad that I’d rather actually have Sather back at the helm. Im about to turn in my Ranger badge. Im so done with this shitbox organization run by a couple of assclowns

NYStranger - Sorry, I can't be Ok with a 5 year reset..I ain't got that time left...Playing and watching when you have zero chance of winning in pro sports is meningless..But, that's my problem

Kakko we hope you stick it in Drurys face.....show those fuckers up!!!!! Who is next up.....call up Wolfpack what's the difference......

Yes, Let the shit trades continue..losing and embararssment is the objective..only a few more left till Drury's task and 3 years running of idiotic moves reaches the culmination of dismantling a team a few moves away fromm the cup and one that fought like hell for each other..A team he completly utterly shit on, got shit in return for every trade, and added his won shit...Fuck him...

If the garden is empty them Dolan will fire Drury..... don't go to games....it's the only way.

Wow, such hand wringing. This team was NOT WINNING THE CUP this season. Let the trades continue. Yes Drury has been terrible. Hopefully he demoralizes Zmeek enough that he OKs a trade. The Rangers will never win with him on the team. I stand by what I said about that years ago. The fact that this group has quit on the fans and have moped around for weeks tells me they don’t have what it takes to win. Sorry. bye bye. Lard ass needs to go too. He has no answers and the players are not listening to whatever he is saying. Hopefully Drury gets canned too. Too bad this draft is not supposed to be that good because we may have a top 10 pick. Very sad, but this is on the entire organization. Ownership right on down to the stick boy, and the guy who fills the Zamboni with hot water. They can burn the whole lot to the ground as far as I am concerned. Including that greedy goalie.

Good luck KAKKAO! You got away from that antiquidted losing Fat Fuck and Mr. Idiocracy himself.....Ruwhedled, some Finish Fuck, Borgen, slow motion Fox, the decying Lindgren, Zav the midget..nd Scnieder...And they paid IGOR 11 million year to ply wwith this load of crap and for a Brain Rust of epic incompetence....Lwt's play for the draft pick and 2030...!

The Nyr are open for business and willing to trade some of their roster players for whatever they can get from any bidders . But you have to admit that the memo was a great advertising flyer from a gm to lazy and scared to call 31 gms. Because he doesn’t have the personality to be a seller or a buyer. It’s a fire sale that hopefully gets management fired like the last 3 bozos . ….

Keep fiddling DRURY....Burn this mother fucker to the ground with your incompetence, petulance, arrogance and downright cluelessness....Piss away the 2nd overall for a fucking UFA Green Bean..We all know Kakkao was the problem..... not you , you fucking scumbag...not n out of touch Laviolette...not Zbad..mot Pnarina..not Kreider..not all the incompetent D-men you have on the roster.....Oh gee..maybe we cn to see the promotion of the HUman Buzzsw or the fucking 2nd coming of WIllie HUber......Not gonna be many players left to like..PLEDASE TRADE CUYLLE AND SCHNEIDER in a pacakge for TKACHIUCK

rf4l, sure. I'm cherry picking. Let's look at the 2018 draft. Vitali Kravtsov, Miller, Lundkvist and 7 more busts, including a 2nd, 2 3rd rounders, 4th/5th/6th/7th. Only Good draft for Gordon was 2020 draft. Lafr, Schneider, Cuylle. Jury still out on Garand, Berard and Rempe.

Interesting stat. 8 out 10 kids drafted in top 10 of the 2019 draft, have all got traded. Speaking of Gordon. From 2019 draft, Rangers gotten, Kappo, Matthew Robertson, Karl Henriksson, Zachary Jones, Hunter Skinner, Leevi Aaltonen, Adam Edstrom and Eric Ciccolini. Is any one of them are really a future impact NHL players? That's 8 players drafted.

So Dolan hired drury that’s good but if he fires him that’s bad . Makes perfect sense. From 1940-1994.now it’s 1994 to 2024 and counting. Dolan hasn’t been the owner for most of the last 84 years. Unfortunately he’s the present owner and I can’t afford to buy him out.

JFC31, let's talk about JD and Gordon. I agree, i though they had a good plan. But looking at it now, was it a good plan? JD prints are all over Columbust, just like Habs have Gordon's prints all over them too. Habs are a fucken disaster and it is possible that Gordon could be polishing his resume once again. Not like JD had turned Columbust into a powerhouse either. Gordon did have some good picks, but he also have had some BAD, BAD picks.

...and one more thing...If you think BORGEN was brought in to help on LEFT D...uh....guess what! Think again! He's MANCINI'S replacement...who was TROUBA's replacement. Who was traded for VAAKANIANEN...who will be on the waiver wire once MILLER comes back. Are any of y'all following along here? Well, hold my beer...because I'm just getting started: TROUBA and KAKKO for a third, fourth, and sixth round picks...And you want to know the best part?!? THOSE PICKS ARE GONNA BE TRADED IN THREE SHORT MONTHS!! Buckle up, buckaroos! If you're trying to polish the shitbird that DRURY is, you got your work cut out for you!

President’s Trophy to “We give up, let’s get a new GM” in 6 months…typical Rangers fans. “…we are only what our situations hand us, it’s either sadness or euphoria!”

I just keep reflecting back on the joy and hope of lucking into the #1 and #2 picks a few years ago and how sour it's all gotten...

Stevie - guess you loveDolan and his great hockey sense, eh? Talk about delusional!

Oh and REMPE to the rescue. Bold move Cotton. Let's see if it works for them. LOL. Can't make this shit up.

Andrei - So many here, my self included, thought Gorton & JD had a good PLAN and that we were absolutely heading in the right direction. They weren’t perfect but many thought we were setting up nicely to possibly win a Cup with them. Right? Then what happened? DOLAN FORED THEM! And who did we get as GM! The same guy so many here are rrubbing their hands with glee wanting him fired! Drury is also far from perfect and I feel he’s part of the reason for our current troubles because he mistook his veteran players for real adult men and not crybaby pussies who would tank because their feelings are hurt! So, now folks here have CONFIDENCE that asshole Dolan is gonna get someone better??? It’s hilarious! Are we not paying attention?

And the mess he's made of this team in one short month is just...really something else. He rode GORTON'S coattails to the conference finals...and now? He's showing his true ineptitude. Cuz friends, if you think the Rangers are a better team WITHOUT Kaapo KAKKO and WITH Will BORGEN? Man, you're in some sort of weird fog or on drugs or maybe both.

JFC - Dude, DRURY was handed a diamond in the rough. He has now turned it into a pile of shit. The best...ABSOLUTE BEST...I can say for his work is that he brought in some guys who MIGHT be decent NHLers...The Rangers would've had a halfway decent player replacement plan in place with how he's run the draft table...but outside of that? This fuckin' idiot has gotten ABSOLUTELY SMOKED by every team he's dealt with and he's got nothing but a couple of fruitless trips to the conference finals to show for it. At least Sather and Gorts gave us a trip to the cup...I tried...SO HARD...to like this guy...but he's an idiot. Plain and simple. Just a fuckin' boob. Worst GM this team has seen this century. And again. That's saying A LOT.

So in 2 years drury is going to be the Nyr gm winning the cup…. lol … we are all delusional but some a lot more than others…

JFC31, well said. Takes years for any GM to get "his" players in. To think that a new GM will be "attached" to any existent Rangers players is non-realistic.

Oh, and BTW, who do you think Dolan will ask for his opinion on who he should hire as the next GM? Let’s see, here’s a hint…his initial are GS and he lives in Bannnnfffff! He’ll probably recommend Lou Lamoriello or Scotty Bowman and they can wheel them up tomthe top floor of MSG using the handicapped access elevator…

rf4l, Yes, I don't care!!! Igor can go, Cuylle can go. If it means that Rangers will win the Cup in the next 2-3 years? Every fucken player on the roster can go.

JFC31, exactly. I think Kappo knew what he was doing and he wanted out badly. He did ask for a trade before.

It really amazes me how so many people sound so joyful at the possibility that the likely hood of Drury getting canned went up after trading Kakko. Do you guys understand how it takes 3-5 years for a new GM to get a team to Cup contention. Y’all are OK with going backwards after watching some damn good hockey from this team in the last let’s see….what is it…oh yeah…3-5 years? Yeah….let’s struggle for another few years and HOPE a new GM knows what the fuck he’s doing. Ever think of that? The Dolan who most of us think is a star-struck asshole is gonna hire a GM who is worse….who has no connection to our young players and will have no issue trading them away for “go for it” veterans who will m shit the bed. Yeah, that’s the ticket….and then we can watch SHIT hockey until 2030! Sheesh!

Oh yeah let’s blame kaapo. Drury is innocent and infallible. He’s the best gm in the league. When he’s finished with the roster, he’ll fire lardass.

Andrei. Yep. Cuylle means nothing. So does Igor. Just an ill informed take. Again let's agree to disagree

Stevielegs, let's agree to disagree about Drury. Rangers gotten twice two games away from the Cup finals in three years, despite all their shortcomings. Drury is responsible for that, no? Should all three coaches take a blame for Kappo? Absolutely. Do I think Drury is HOF GM? Hell no. But this mess is on players. Time to take out rest of the trash.

Once Kakko publicly criticized the team, it was over…and I said so. I was surprised he was even allowed to dress for last night’s game. And ya know what else was over….any possibility of Drury waiting to see if interested teams would up their offers.By opening his mouth, Kakko put an end to that. The suitors knew that Drury would have to get him out of the locker room ASAP…I wouldn’t be surprised if the offers went DOWN after that.

rf4l, sure. Every team has a ceiling. I do those trades over again to have a chance to play in the eastern conference. Sais it before, I don't give two shits about 4th, 5th, 6ht or 7th picks. They mean nothing. You basically have to get lucky to draft a good player in those rounds. I do care about 1st's. That's where you draft your core players. 2nd and 3rd are also important. Rest?

In regard to the TRADE: Okay, so really we traded KAKKO for a 3rd. Will Borgen is to balance out the cap hit(Seattle is tight up against it) and the extra pick was for mostly taking him off there hands. He's mostly a throw in but given our circumstances, he's a useful throw in.

Andrei DD drury will not be the gm that wins the cup with the Nyr. So you’ll be waiting until Dolan cans him . He’ll never admit he had lardass hold out kaapo because he thought he had a deal for him. He doesn’t have to speak to the press for most to now know he’s in over his head and has little respect for any player. This is not the organization a player will want to play for except to make a big payday retirement plan. There are enough teams with good management, the Nyr are not one of them. I’ve waited 4 years for him to prove himself. He’s failed.

Bob. Lol. 1. Shoulda been a 2nd and a 3rd. 2. Dreary is gonna trade them away for shitty rentals.

Call me crazy, I liked Kakko. This team's problems did not get solved trading him. Is it Othman time? They need a new whipping boy!

td also. Light it up ? Likely not in Seattle. They play a “safe” style of hockey. He will likely look a lot like he did in NY. He will settle in 15-20 goals 15-20 assists most years unless they have a change in philosophy here.

td: I see him a lot living in Seattle. He doesn’t get dangled that often. If you only watch highlights sure. Otherwise he keeps the blue paint area clear of bodies and plays hard nosed and solid. He is more of a 4/5 but he isn’t some scrub.

Except the Rangers are pretenders. Geesh dude you've been screaming on here fir like 3 years no cup with Zweep. You're contradicting yourself in your rush to support Dreary.

Newfie_Ranger, exactly. BTW, when Kappo spoke to press, that price tag just dropped like a rock. GM's fucken hate when players take it to press. Hate it!!!!

rf4l, every contender trades picks for rentals. That's what teams do. Every single one of them.

Trade. Yeah. I hear ya. But he's surely gonna fall into the abyss that is the Rangers now and suck. I mean he's not Chris Pronger...

Stevielegs, I don't care. Every fucken player on this current roster can go. EVERY FUCKEN one of them. I stopped attaching myself to players long time ago. I simply view players as assets. Only care about one thing. That is winning a cup. I don't care who is on the roster, what picks, players needed to be traded to get that Cup.

tdchi.....shortly after the Rangers selected Kakko 2nd overall, my family got a new puppy.....I told my wife that i wanna name the dog "Kakko"......she declined and when the game was on in living room over these past few years...she would call him Krappo .......

tradestar28 - Wait until you watch BORGEN get dangled. Like I said...TROUBA light. The dude is a sixth defenseman on a weak team...which...we apparently have now, so he'll probably be in our top four.

See you later Kakko,don't let the door hit you in the ass. Go do 'nothing' for some other team. One good thing is that I don't have to listen to the list of excuses why this guy has not acheived anything in a Ranger uniform. and of course it's everbody elses fault except his. It's been said on here and elsewhere that this upcoming 4 Nations Cup will be his break out show case. We'll see on that one. But let me state that if he does do "something" in that tournament and in his future with other teams (like that one ?) then I will appologize to all the Kakko fans here on the Wall. I know I'm in the minority with these feelings but it's JMHO.

BWHAHAHAH...Pittsburgh got SMITTY Jr. for a third rounder...realized how badly they got fleeced by the Knights and couldn't find any way to get rid of his contract...Until Dumbass DRURY came a long...AND TRADED A FUCKING SECOND ROUNDER FOR IT!!! Can't make this shit up.

RF4L....i watched a few of the Borgen tilts.....he is not shy from throwing down.......especially when all the fuckers bang into Igor and the Rangers just sit there baking cookies instead of sticking up for the most important guy on the ice.......

This idea that Drury is getting fleeced, working for a multi-billion corporation and having scouts, advisors, etc, is just non-sense. You can bet your ass that Kappo was shopped to all NHL team's and that's the best offer he has gotten. Am I disappointed that's a 2nd overall is a bust. of course. Am I disappointed that all Rangers gotten back for a 23 year old? Sure. But this pick is on Gorton. Just imagine if Rangers had drafted Moritz Seider instead.

LOL...The "going rate" for giving the Penguins $3.6 million in cap space was giving them a second rounder...REALLY?! Wow. I mean, just...wow. Like do you read this shit before you spray?!

tdchi....Kakko aint lighting up shit except maybe his Christmas tree a week from today.......

Lindgren downfall this year was that uppercut to his jaw from Mayfield.....He got his hockey skillz punched right out of his body.......

The coach was not man enough to tell kaapo the truth so he says we need fresh legs. Now they need a new gm and coach before they fire sale the whole team like they did when they traded leetch et al.

Andrei. No. You stop it. Stop defending shitbox Dreary. He just got fleeced again

So let me get this straight.....Kakko had no chance to play top six minutes since he wasn't a fit with Z and CK(hence the trade for Smith) and the Panarin-T-Laff line was already intact from last year. So he plays on the third line to start the season with Chytil and Cullye. It turns out they are our most effective line to start the season and they a pretty successful until Lardass has to shake up the lines because Z is playing like shit. Since then this team has gone down the fucking tubes. Lardass proceeds to scratch KK the other night to get fresh legs and now he's gone for a shit return. Can anyone actually defend what Drury/Lardass has done here? Help me out, please!

Stop, with this Drury gave up 2nd for Smith. Going rate for Smith was probably a 4th, but Shitsburg is picking up 30% of his salary. That's the going rate for picking up salary's.

tradestar28 - he should've fired his fuckin' coach and gotten someone who would use KAKKO. But this is the same assclown who traded BUCHNEVICH for a guy who isn't even in the NHL anymore...oh...and that second rounder. For a 70-point winger...that's our Chris DRURY! Tell you what. If I'm an NHL GM? I'm fucking WAR DIALING this idiot and getting what ever he is moving, because he's a fucking clueless asshat. Like we're approaching MILBURY/CHIARELLI status.

This is so bizarre. What a stupid season this has turned out to be. Kakko blew it by bitching, but my goodness is this dumb. A 2nd overall for a 3rd and 5th. Pathetic.

I cant believe we gave up a 2nd rounder plus for Reilly fuckin Smith.....i hate that whole Smith family! Bunch of weirdos

BORGEN, I will say, is a very physical defenseman. Some Ranger fans will like him. But...like I said...basically a poor man's Jacob TROUBA.

How absolutely disappointing - https://www.hockey-reference.com/players/b/borgewi01.html

tradestar28, sure. He should have gotten a 1st. But if that's all Drury could have gotten, that's the going price. Bust 2nd overall.

Don’t stop now DD drury because your days are numbered. 2025 is your last year as gm

Good Lord. Will Borgen and not even a 2nd rounder back? WTF is that? What a clown show this is. Drury gets fleeced again. My goodness.

So trade is basically a 3rd and a 5th. That's the best offer Drury got for Kappo. Sad. Kappo maid his bed. Now, enjoy Seattle. So he got shopped around and that's the best offer that was on a table. Kreider should be next. Then Feeses, Smith, Lindgreen.

Shit, I thought Charlie STRAMEL would've been a bad return. DRURY was like 'hold my beer...'

He seriously just traded away TROUBA to trade away KAKKO to get...a poorman's TROUBA. This guy is a fuckin' retard. I hope this Ranger team folds like a cheap suit, loses every fucking game from here out and gets his fucking dumbass fired.

BORGEN is a pending UFA. Fuck this team. Seriously, fuck it. I'm done with this season.

https://www.nyrangersinsider.com/nhl-team/new-york-rangers/must-see-nhl-analyst-tears-new-york-rangers-management-to-shreds-during-live-video

https://www.nyrangersinsider.com/nhl-team/new-york-rangers/mika-zibanejad-displays-his-true-colours-towards-the-rangers-when-responding-to-having-his-role-diminished?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTAAAR37b-XjU9zVmEGfkEnTXqzjCD-Wv4LYlAgwQiJOQyCcScEIa1c67teoR38_aem_ATWdh9GWkPZ8BPeHy6TDMg

E - It was BizDouche that mentioned it .but probably trolling...some lowlife blogger printed it..and bozo me put it on here, mainly for grins....and why would this week or next week be any different then the last month for the team to play so good to squash the rumors? Answer..It won't be! becasue they are not capable of it or care about it enough as a collective due to what has seeped down from above from both the coach and GM....Not too mention, as you say, they don't have the horses or chemistry or leadership any more due to the incompetence of the GM and coach........Somebody has to be sharing this with Dolan, no?..And I hope he hears it from many directions to the point it means something to him..The team is an embarrassment

E - The Rangers miss out on that playoff dough? Yep. That'll get DRURY a pink slip.

Brandon MONTOUR, 6' 199 pounds and 'made for the playoffs,' obviously, because he has a cup. Zac JONES, one inch shorter and nine pounds lighter is not made for the playoffs? C'mon meow. He's bigger than Adam FOX, FFS.

I didnt hear it personally but I think one of the spitting chick lets guys said he spoke with Avery who was on his way to meet with Jim Dolan. Doesn’t surprise me. I wouldn’t think its for any kind of front office thing. Might just be having lunch. Maybe Dolan wants an opinion. Avery will definitely give you an opinion. You may not like what it is. But he’ll give one. But I think it’s gotten legs as does everything with the name Avery attached to it. Personally, I think the management drama and everything is reaching beyond absurd. Drury aint getting fired because the players are unhappy about him. The GM is not a coach. He is next level up. I have a good idea for these guys. Play good and that will squash the rumors. I am not exonerating Drury. I think he has not been very good and I think he needs to turn this ship around or he will answer to Dolan. And given Dolan’s willingness to throw JD and the previous regime out as he did? I wouldn’t sit safe in MSG offices right now

top: Jones is not built for the SCF's. A round or two, possibly, but ultimately, if I were an opposing coach I'm going right on this kid and wearing him down.

Does Dipshit Dickweed Drury have one or two thumbs up his ass right now?? Unfortuantely, I'm afraid what will happen when he takes them out!!!

TDCHI - That was me on AVery!..You were Trolled! I just found it hilarious that it was out there and we need have fun some way!!

E- The Kakkao I saw for a good month on the Kid line was more than a 3rd liner and really had me optimistic....To be hinest, who looks more than a 3rd liner on this team now??? Panarina offensively..laffy occasionally..Cuylle as a comp/role player...that's it.......TOP - Not sure Where Jones has been the whipping boy...He was playing werll for awhile....and Schneider is one of my top 3 Rangers but the play of him and Jones (especially a few games ago) and Boom Boom have also gone down...Nobody has been untouched by this stench.

https://www.nhl.com/rangers/stats for all of you complaining about Jones, only he and schneider are + in +/- category on d who have played 25 games. So look elsewhere and find a new whipping boy.

Who is spreading the AVERY rumor? Just silly. The dude literally NUKED his way out of New York and became so toxic that he retired from the NHL to work for a fashion magazine. Since that point, he has spent a good deal of his time defending bike lanes and berating motorists in New York City. And now? He's reinvented himself ragging on the Rangers' soft play. Like who HONESTLY believes anyone from the organization would be tapping him? They wouldn't hire him to clean toilets at MSG, much less advise the team...Now RUPP? That's a different story. I could actually believe that.

JFC31 - Minny would chop through people to get at the Rangers if they offered KAKKO-for-STRAMEL straight up. They'd have that deal drawn up before DRURY got the second syllable of KAKKO's name from his lips.

Hospo: I think it was during the offseason that ZBad mentioned he needed / could benefit from playing with a guy who could set him up better. Ironically, KaKKo might be that guy, but not with Kreider on the LW. Thats another reason why they must be split at ES. Put Zbad between Cullye & KaKKo and they'll be dangerous, but what to do with CHYTIL then? Another set up guy for Zbad is Lafreniere, and until we trade SMITH, we could put Smitty on that line with Panarin & Trocheck, OR, we move Cullye to RW with Panarin & Trocheck and create a line of Kreider/Chytil/Smith...

Hospo: IMO KaKKo also needs work choosing when he 'touch-passes' the puck to a teammate vs deciding to play keep away from the opponents. He needs to mix it up better, pick his spots better & keep the opposition off-guard. just my amateur eye talking now.

TD: from my vantage point part of what Drury needed to factor was take a last ditch effort to find a RW that would mesh with Kreider / Zibanejad vs splitting this bromance onto different lines. He chose the path of signing a RW. With hindsight, it wasn't the best decision or the route to go. As GM, he needs & needed to get that call correct, and Drury didn't. As a result & from my POV, SMITH is a 1st option trade candidate. I have nothing against this guy, he's just the wrong fit at the wrong time. Jones & Berard are also the wrong fits at the wrong time. WE will need at least 1 upgrade at wing, & we need a Center, we need 1-2 LHS-D depending upon what's available. Are we re-signing LINDGREN? IF Not, we need 2 LHSDmen.

I should’ve pointed out. Kakko as an asset does not have much trade worth. People have to remember that he is no longer a #2-pick. He is a 3rd-4th line winger. Not a terrible player but he is what he is. Not to say that he doesn’t have room to grow but it probably aint gonna happen in NY.

Sean Avery being asked by Dolan for his advice? Sean Avery being considered as new GM? Who makes this shit up? SEAN AVERY! Guy is a narcissistic blowhard who needs constant attention. Charlie Strammel? Nice idea…but, that’s all it is. It has no basis in fact except a single report about teams in the West being interested in KK, with Minny being one of them. Minny interested? Hey, they have Charlie Strammel. Hey, the Rangers WANT Strammel for Kakko! That’s how this shit works nowadays! And none of those who are part of the creation of this rumor will deny or repudiate anything because PUBLICITY is all that matters…as long as their names are being mentioned, it’s all good with them.

RF4L - re: STRAMEL, I wouldn't count on it. The only hope I have that KAKKO will get us something decent is that he's an RFA, he has a reasonable contract and that any NHL scout should be able to see he's drastically and disastrously underutilized. But then I think about who our GM is, and the list of players he's given away...and...well...

RF4L - That seems misleading/wrong to me..But i have been wrong before once or twice......Don't ZBAD, Kreids, SMith, Tro, Panarina,Laffy, Cuylle and Chytl average more ice time than KK? wouldn't that make him #9?

Also, Ranger legends Magnus HELLBURG and Colon BLACKWELL are expected to be in a Stars uniform when they play the Rangers...

Well I hated the Smith deal when it went down because why (re not needed) and too much given up to get him. More fabulous work courtesy of Chris Dreary.

Hospo - hahah you me OG SMITTY?! You may just get that chance! Looks like he's slotted in with Dallas' third pairing with our other dear friend, Nils LUNDKVIST.

KK has the 6th amount of average icetime on the team. Below him are Carrick, Edstrom, Vesey, Berard and JBrod.

Hospo - LOL. Man, I do miss TIMMMMAY!!! Anywho, yeah, physical, if you're defining it as a guy who can play the boards? That's KAKKO for sure. Like I said. GREAT at holding the puck. This is a guy you want in your lineup, not who you want in the stands. Definitely not someone you want to trade for a shot at playing prospect roulette.

MF - That's what KK has turned into for us probably because it works best for the line he was on...He did his job well...I commented many a night how well his passing and vision was...But, i do want him to go to the net more................TDCHI - Only in Bizarro Rangerland! Last night was a disgrace...I spent my venom on him in the off-season...I'd rather have his brother! The Real SMitty!!

Just want to put this out there too. On what fucking planet does a 33-year-old winger who struggled badly in 2023-24 and ultimately lost his top-six spot in the lineup get a chance to WALK INTO a top six role over a dude who has been on the team for five years an has been nothing short of a good soldier? I'm talking about SMITTY Jr. The fucking goat...and I don't mean that in a good way...last night who got WALKED by an AHLer in the last minutes of a 1-zip game. This dude gets two more minutes per night on average and has a worse Corsi/Fenwick(although there's a small caveat here), that has resulted in one...count it...ONE extra point. We can get into +/-, but I won't because this is a loaded stat...the point being is that SMITTY Jr. has cost more...literally, since we gave up a second rounder just to fit his contract...and...well...literally, because he STILL has a higher cap hit...and who is providing no observable or appreciable benefit for the team that KAKKO isn't or wasn't already providing...so when we get into what KAKKO is and is not, let's first talk about how this fucking shithead GM and his toady coach REFUSES to use the assets he already has in place before blithely overspending for a guy who adds nothing and, in the case of last night, was a contributing factor in a soul-crushing loss.

I'll add that IMO KaKKo is also a puck distributer who unfortunately is not / has not been played to his strengths.

TDCHI - I was mainly funning with GETTINGER!!..Still, I want no part of STAMMEL and I want to keep KAKKAO....And, one thing, KAKKAO isn't physical in open ice and throwing checks (who is outside of Cuylle and Carrick??)...but very physical fighting along the end boards and side boards...I also thought he was getting a bit more physical until the latest shit forced upon him by Laviolette..Not a mentally strong/confident kid, that's his problem

tradestar28 - We can agree to disagree where KAKKO will fall as a player when given a chance. I can see how folks can have a rather dower opinion of the guy when he's not a hitter and doesn't really play a physical game, nor does he have the hand like LAFRENIERE...where I disagree is that the dude is a puck magnet. He is VERY hard to knock off the puck, and that's a very valuable player to ANY team. Modern coaches...the ones who actually understand the game today...see the extreme value of these guys...and it basically goes like this: If you can hold the puck for 60 percent of the game or so, you're going to WIN that game nine times out of 10. You're going to get more scoring chances. You're going to draw more penalties. And above all? You're going to make your opponent work a fuck-load harder...so even a guy who can't hit the broadside of a door BUT CAN carry the puck and hold it...well, he's really fuckin' valuable...I'll give you a for-instance...we're seeing CUYLLE suddenly putting up points like it's his job. What changed? Welp, one thing: He's on a line with two guys who are magnificent at holding onto the puck. They open up space for him, because if you got guys chasing KAKKO or CHYTIL...and more importantly, getting drawn out of position or losing their guy...well, that's when HE gets free...Anywho, I never figured KAKKO to be a high-scoring player, but I DO think he'll be a 20-goal, 50-point player who can fill the role I just explained...but all that said? This kid is SOOOOOOO underutilized by the Rangers for no particular reason and at a detriment to the team.

Gabe Perrault turns 20 in May 2025... Do we dare rush this kid to the NHL level, say 3rd line for starters, "or" do we take the prudent path of letting him get a year of Hartford under his belt? https://puckpedia.com/player/gabe-perreault

How far do you folks want to cut? AFAIC, the 1st layer consists of trading / making available: Smith, Jones, Berard, Edstrom, Vesey and just about anyone on the Farm outside of Perreault & (Goalie) Garand (sp?)...... 2nd layer (a bit deeper) would be including Kreider and Lindgren and possibly Chytil. 3rd Layer would be to include MIKA Zbad.....

HOSPO - FWIW, STRAMEL is a lot more physical than a guy like GETTINGER. The rest of the package, though, isn't that much better. His size and strength will probably get him into the NHL...but how far? The other name who comes to mind is a guy we saw last night: Michael McCARRON. Bottom line? If you're trading an established NHLer for a kid who is just finding his way in college...you're taking a bet, for sure. Just not one that is remotely safe.

trade: Of course you're right but these guys aren't machines and various factors impact their play and in this guy's case, it's being marginalized by 3 different vet loving head coaches. I mean think about this pressboxing 2 games ago - he's 2nd in the team in +/- while Z is last and he gets the shaft? Utterly gutless on Lardiolette's part of a perfect example of what I'm arguing. And mark my word brother - he gets moved and he's gonna blossom and Dreary is gonna look like a fool. Again.

Stramel? I'm not ready to kick the can that far into the future. We can make changes to compete this season and next and that's the direction I'm looking at. ...

TDCHI....in all honesty, KK hasn't flourished either. I dont give two shits about him not getting enough icetime or Power play or top 6 minutes.....When you hop over the boards for your shift.....simply put the fuckin puck in the net behind the Tendy.....thats it! That is what he is paid to do.......and he sucks at it.......

CNP - picking a coach from the outside given all the melodrama and soap opera concerning the players and GM is going to be tough.....As a coach, I would be dubious of Dickweed Drury...Internally (Peca????) might be the way to go..And then he goes when a new GM steps in...or if we are saddled with Drury for 3 more years of not getting close, then the coach doesn't matter!!

If Charlie STRAMEL is all they get for KAKKO...well...as I used to say to my kids...you get what you get and you don't throw a fit...There are worse things that have happened. Like Hiroshima. And the eruption of Mount Vesuvius. STRAMEL is a guy who will never 'wow' you with much of anything buy his size, and even that isn't anything off the charts. He'll probably play at 225, maybe 230 when all is said and done...when I look at him, the first player who comes to mind? Keegan IVERSON. If you don't remember him? Well, good...STRAMEL didn't do much with Wisconsin and really became a bottom-line afterthought in program. He transfered this season to Michigan State and is getting more ice...and is putting up more points...but he's also with one of the top ranked teams in college hockey...In short, the Wild selected him a good 10 or 15 picks too early...which is something I said at the time I think. The fact he was taken OVER Gabe PERREAULT was utterly laughable...All that said, he IS a center and probably will end up being an NHLer, albeit a bottom liner. I see him needing at least a couple seasons in the AHL before honestly competing for a job...but I also haven't been watching him too closely. Anywho, if it's him for KAKKO straight up, DRURY and the Rangers got taken to the cleaners in a pretty major way. The only good thing I can say about it all is that STRAMEL is still young, and he's big and there's always a chance he turns into something. Not much of a chance...but hey.

Quick look at some of the names out there, other than the coaching retreads like Bruce Boudreu. Hershey Bears head coach Todd Nelson is one of the best bench bosses currently outside the NHL according to many. Marc Savard is part of the Flames coaching staff. Jay Leach is part of the Kraken and another up and coming coach. Of course we had one in Knobloch and that ship has passed.

Hospo: NOBODY owns the "OmniPotent Traderator!" We can only hope to tap into it's infinite powers. "May the Schwartz be with you!" ;-)

Reports from Hartford saying that Robertson's play has greatly improved over the past month. Through 25 games, he leads the defense corps with 14 points (one goal, 13 assists) and is tied (with Case McCarthy) for the best plus/minus at plus-3. That said, keep him in Hartford until/unless the mess in RangerLand is retified.

Rhet: Maybe expand that deal to include Kreider (because Barfalo is desperate for veteran leadership - yeah I get the oxymoronic aspect here) so it would be KK, Miller and Kreider for Cozens, Samuelson and Jack Quinn.

Is Drury going to wait until after the losses to Dallas, Carolina and NJ? Better yet, Is Dolan going to wait until after he talks to Avery, Messier, BizzDouche, PL SLubann and Sather??? (maybe Dolan should talk to the King? And some former players that care.. I'm serious about this one becasue they all know better than us what could possibly be going on)

Rhet: I wouldn't if I was Barfalo but that's because 2 years ago Cozens started to bust out. Could something like MIller and KK for Cozens and Samuelsson get done? I'd love to get Cozens and then convince Zbad to waive his NMC and send him elsewhere for whatever you can get (which wouldn't be much at this point). Miller is >> than Sameulsson but the latter is far more aggressive and mean. Maybe Kreider can then be traded for a young right winger who'd replace KK.

KIS - the problem is, you are not the GM!! :) really...becasue a huge part of the problem is how the GM has burnt down the chemistry and organization and depth of a once proud team......You said it yourself...everybody is sucking (and all with decreasing trade vale) so it is not this player or that player..it's the entire fucking team and there are two common denominators that must be changed first.....then you might see which players are failing and why..The environment is way too toxic to make decisions now....Again, for the Rangers ever to compete for a Cup again, DRURY mus go....for it to have a chance to get better this year, Laviolette must go...The players come after....Unfortunateluy that won't stop the clueless DRURY from trading KAKKAO now

Hospo/E….Such s short time ago our blueline was the envy of the league….We would get offense from several of them….Now we are laughed at…

PJ/E - They shoot horses don't They??? Seriously as for the lack of horses on D, how quickly things changed...Just take the first hald of last season.....A mean and solid, Trouba, a rising Schneider, an emrging Miller, a world class D man with some speed in FOX, and a solid soldier in LINDGREN, the problem was depth....Fast forward this year...BOTH MILLER and SCHNEIDER have been victims of the disease with plummeting play, the Trouba soap opera made it impossible to retyrn to his pre-broken ankle play especially when he was traded for trash, LIndgren is just wearing down and playing smaller, and Fox is a shadow of his former self (probably effected by the diseae also)......Honestly, i think most of these players will improve if and when the head of the rotting fish is cut off...but the lack of depth (RUWHEDEL!!! - Great going Drury) is staggering..............and.I don't think KAKKAO needs a new team, just think he needs a new coach, a coach more in tune with younger players...they don't get that then, yeah, give him up for marginal NHLer and/or a 7th round pick..................

RF4L... I was thinking about this the other day in regard to Buffalo. Dylan Cozens was taken 7th overall in the same draft year. Would you trade him straight up for Kakko now? I know I wouldn't if I were the Sabres. Does that make him worth a 4th? Maybe a 3rd if some GM overvalues him? Maybe there are still a couple of GM's out there that still love him and we get lucky, but I am skeptical.

I understand many dont agree with me but how do you go 12-4 and then shit is leaked out to the public now you are 15-15-1? If i were GM id be gettiing rid of many more or having them sit at home. Horrible way to send off Sam Nosen TD its ok if we disagree not the first time sure it wont be the last. Do respect your opinion. Please tell me at whst time KK has looked dangerous even with only 12 min. Look at laffy he is playi g like shit but can show 1-2 times a game to be dangerous on goal im sorry a out disagreeing about jones. Saying he was one of the best yesterday isnt saying much. Three shouldnt be in the nhl. Jones wonr hold up during the playoffs. Moves puck well and skates well but he is just to small i again in my opinion

I have never looked forward to going to a Ranger game in person less than I am for Friday night in Dallas. There has been almost no entertainment value for about a month now. I just feel like the Stars are going to be spinning around the Rangers like a Bugs Bunny cartoon from the '70's.

Jonny Lazarus reposted Michael Russo @RussoHockey No Quote Paul Golnick @Paulgolnick · 2h Replying to @RussoHockey and @JoeSmithNHL Any truth to the Wild being in on Kakko at all? 11:33 AM · Dec 18, 2024 · 37.5K Views

And I would trade Kakko for Stramel. If nothing else if we just look at both players as bottom-6 talents. Stramel I think is going to be an NHL player. Kakko I think just needs to get out of here. He is a guy who just needs a reboot. I dont think he’ll ever reach his potential at this point in a blue shirt. One team is looking to the future and one is looking at the present. This would be a trade that makes sense. Especially if you could squeeze a depth pick as well to help restock that.

PJ: they don’t have the horses. Now mind you, trading Trouba is not something that I necessarily think was a bad thing. I mean he wasn't remotely giving bang for the buck. But he was playing and someone can correct me almost 20-minutes a night. And the Rangers dont have a stable of defenders that can step into that hole seamlessly. Drury knew that when he was opening that hole. I think obviously he intends to close it if with nothing else a stopgap veteran. Preferably a good old fashioned 30-year old journeyman type. The ones who come to a team with a simple game but solid. And one thats seen just about everything. That is unless theyre out of it. Then I dont care. Just stock the coffers and look towards the horizon. Red Skies at night…

Rhet: KaKKo should have spent his 1st year in Hartford as should every kid 'not listed' as a generational talent. Next: Add up KaKKo's time on the IR, he probably lost close to a full season, especially if we consider the amount of games it takes to get back into, "game-shape." jmo-n

RF/others: Charlie STRAMEL'S scouting reports pre-draft: http://www.mynhldraft.com/2023-nhl-draft/player-profiles/Charlie-Stramel

Oh, on CHYTL..I totally understand the worry on his durability becasue it scares the crap out of me..and can see where some might want to deal him NOW when his health is temporarily good.......but....Look at the rangers....and look at other teams and how they move the puck up the ice.....CHYTL is the only Center, maybe even forward, that has the skill and confidence to skate the puck through the neutral zone and into the D zone..nobody else does it! And just the Rangers luck that the player they need so bad (IMWO more than ZBAD and TRO) is the one most likely to get hurt....God, the rangers as constructed by Drury are fucked..

Even when KAKKAO was playing excellent this year, and he was for a month, Laviolette was Marginalizing him..THat line had some grerat chemistry and all of them were shining..Fast forward to the mess today...unfuckingbelivable what the GM and coach have done

E: Oh for sure. Zero issues with Perrault. It's moot anyways - Stramel went 21st and Perrault 23rd. I never considered the latter because he was projected to go in the top 10.

RF: Not that you are making this argument but Im fine with Perrault. Perreault is hands down a much ebtter prospect. I mean, the guy put up 132 points in a single season with the USNTDP. He busted Auston Matthews’ record! His vision, playmaking, and hockey IQ are off the charts. He’s will make everyone around him better, and his point production speaks for itself. Stramel’s a big, physical guy, but Perreault’s the kind of player who can dominate the game with his skill. He’s a playmaking machine, and that’s what the NHL needs more of right now. Stramel’s got potential, but Perreault’s already proving he’s on another level offensively. I think Stramel is looking more like a bottom-6 guy but I definitely could see him becoming a pretty forceful weapon if he matures as good as he can. Right now though I think the Rangers have no question nor should they second guess the pick. I think we’ll be happy in a few years.

Hospo…So true with our D….Being at the game against the Blues I was looking at our D and saying we just don’t have the horses…Two maybe three of them should not be here…The Blues were pathetic and we lost to them…We make enough mistakes that teams know many chances are coming…

TD: Using your analogy about the bus, sometimes the mechanics of the bus cause it to go off the rails and that's where Dreary fits in. And that's not to say Lardiolette is absolved of blame. He's arguably more to blame than Dreary but remember Dreary hired him and to date, hasn't fired him. Maybe a 10 0 shellacking by Dallas will be the straw that breaks the camel's back???

Legz: Chytil's trade value is higher than its been in a looonnnggg while, certainly no harm to talk about trading him. Go-Legs-Go!

Rhet: Tough to call - he's been marginalized to a great extent by the series of vet stroking coaches he's had to play under. I'm not alleviating him of blame - he has to bear some of it. I am certain, however, wherever he goes, he's gonna blossom and if the return for him is middling the Rangers (once again) will have egg all over their faces. Better solution? Fire this shitbox coach and give this kid legitimate top 6 minutes.

Rhet: IF the coach started by allocating 16 TOI Minutes to each of the top 9 adjusted for special teams, KaKKo would be getting his Minutes.

Where is Mr chypil been playing for longer than kaapo , and is possibly one hit away from retirement? It’s a shame that DD drury is in charge looking to make deals like he’s going for the cup. He’s really not.

Good morning Wall, Fuck u Dolan, Fuck u Dreary, Fuck u Lard Ass, Fuck u Z-shit, Fuck u Kreider.......Can't wait for the game in Dallas!!!!

And just to go through a few more points...Look, you have a coach to assess players and see where they fit best. The Rangers have now had not one, but THREE coaches who have been awful at doing this. The last two have been vet-centric. LAVIOLETTE isn't as bad as GALLANT was, but not far off...JONES, FWIW, has been one of the best defenders on this team this year. He hasn't been soft...quite the opposite, actually, and is the ONLY one of them moving with any purpose, save for occasionally SCHNEIDER...KAKKO? What do you want him to do with 11 or 12 minutes? CHYTIL? This is the first time the kid has been given anything close to top six minutes under LAV. I mean, seriously...LAF? Well, we can agree there. But the rest? The young players are actually the ones doing the right things out there...and they're getting shit for minutes most nights, and in some cases, scratched...Now we can get into what to do about the rest...but the truth is, the Rangers rode career years from TROCHECK, FOX, and SHESTERKIN, and very good years from Z, KREIDER and to a lesser extent MILLER to where they were last year. NONE of those guys is performing up to par or even close to par. And that's where the problem lies. Trade them for pennies on the dollar? Meh? Go ahead if you want to emulate the Buffalo Sabres. That's what they did with REINHART, EICHEL and O'REILLY. And here they are with another loser season and a retread coach who is absolute battery acid to them...and those three players? They ALL have cups. So be careful who you villainize and why. Sometimes, the problem isn't what you think it is. More often than not, when the bus goes off the road, it's the guy driving it who steered it that direction.

I remember hoping the Rangers would select this kid in the 2023 draft and that's not throwing dirt on Perrault. Here's a detailed write-up on him: "Teams in search of size and speed will love what Charlie Stramel brings to the draft table. Physically he is NHL ready; at 6-foot-3 and 216 pounds, he is a physically imposing player who can play a grinding or skill game. His strength and size are noteworthy, especially as he is still a freshman in the NCAA with the University of Wisconsin playing against men much older than him. However, Stramel, who before the start of the season was expected to go early in the first round of this year’s draft, but due to some inconsistency in his play this season, his draft stock has fallen. His skating is not elite but it is still very good, especially for a player his size. His top speed is excellent, but he needs improvement on his mobility and his first step lacks the explosiveness he needs to reach top speed without taking four or five steps, which puts him a step behind smaller, speedier players. This should change as he adds strength as he matures. That being said, he still can generate separation when facing the majority of his opposition but needs that added speed to compete with the elite players at his level and to become more prepared for the professional game. Offensively, Stramel is very difficult to defend due to his size, but he is also versatile as he can play a complementary skill game. His size makes him highly effective in his power-forward style, especially as he is very comfortable playing in front of the net on the power play or at even strength. His playmaking is still a work in progress. He is adept at playing the cycle and retaining offensive pressure, making life difficult for defenders attempting to break out of their zone with his speed and positioning. Even when he isn’t crashing the crease, his speed allows him to attack along the wings as well where he can use his heavy shot. His shot selection is a strength to his game as well as the quick release and accuracy."

RF4L... Think about it this way, KAKKO is in his 6th years as a pro and he's playing in the bottom six. What do you really think his real value is worth at this point?

Kis.. Can’t argue with anything you said…Problem is you can’t equate professional sports with the business world most of us live in…I remember my first job out of school with a large corporation….My boss heard me bitching to other employees about something….He asked me to go for a walk with him…We went to the elevator and to the first floor and on to the front door…He showed me it opened and I wasn’t locked in…If I wanted to go I could leave now..If not get back to work and keep your mouth shut….Professional sports obviously don’t work that way…

MF - I've lost my patience with Lindgren too..In his intertview he said the "team battled" last night (well, maybe Riley Smith and Zbhad did!)..These players no longer have a clue what it means to battle and compete..and a coach who has zero clue how to get them to do that better..Of course, not having players that can physically battle and compete (look at the D) lays on the shoulders of what DRURY has done to burn the NHL part of the organization down when he fiddles....We all know what he can do with that fiddle....

mf: Of course not. 2 totally different players and obviously what KK brings to the table is what the Wild are interested in and that's not even getting into Chytil's injury issues.

If he hasn't already, Drury needs to tell Lavy exactly what he expects from his coaches. Chain of command type of thing, and Lav "should know better" than what he's doing. This is frustrating as could be and we're not out of the woods by a long shot. Yesterday's post game interviews, Kreider didn't look into the camera for 90% of his interview. Lindgren DID speak up and placed responsibility on the players, bottom line I took away from Lindgren was, hey, some of us are playing (or not playing) for our next contract and we're going to get hit in the wallet. Good for Lindgren. Lots of talk here about firing this guy, or trading that guy, "but who are we replacing them with and how are we getting it done?" "Cheers" :->) This Franchise has the 'Fregosi Curse'

Rumours this AM that the Wild are very interested in KK and the Rangers want Charlie Stramel in any return coming back. He was Minnesota's first round pick (21st overall) in 2023. A mean, physical centre with 3rd line capabilities.

This was a pretty good watch... Jonny Lazarus.... Ranger Danger ft. Mike Rupp | Morning Cuppa Hockey.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKQE2TzsMRg&t=2143s

KIS - You are SOOOOOO wrong, re: LAVIOLETTE. SO wrong. Dude, there are like a billion and one arrows and they're ALL pointing to that guy. To NOT think he has anything to do with this, you'd need to first believe that he's not making the lineup card. Second, you'd need to believe he's got no power over determining how to play the guys on his roster, or who he kept from day one, and who gets called up. You'd also need to believe he's not the guy sending players over the bench or making lines. You'd also need to believe he's not the guy running practices. Or scratching players. Or...well, just about ANY of the things that hockey coaches do. YES, some of this is on DRURY. Actually, a lot. He's the idiot who keeps hiring retread archaic coaches...but what you're seeing on the ice IS Peter LAVIOLETTE. That is what he is getting from his players, and, like his predecessor, he has ZERO idea why things aren't working or how to GET them working. Zero. I banged out two posts below that a fucking MITES coach could use as a template for getting a team going. He does NONE of that. ZERO. ZIPPO. Until LAVIOLETTE is no longer coach, this is ALL on him. 100 percent. And if you DON'T believe that, then you must REALLY want him canned, because if the players aren't responding to what he's telling them to do, and he's STILL sending them out there shift in and shift out...well, that says to me he's a fucking weak-ass coach with no spine who nobody respects.

Per Jonny Lazarus, he's heard from several NYR players (off the record), that the reports of them having a closed door meeting about Drury is not true.... (although it doesn't mean that they don't hate them)... Then again, wouldn't you want to deny it? Oh, to be a fly on the wall.

What came first the DD drury memo or the players slacking? Or was it the Goodrow Trouba stories that combined with the memo that looks like the smoking gun ? Round and round we go. The players are not responding, so now what clean house?

The year the Blues were a complete mess well into December did they make a major trade or was it simply changing coaches??? I remember the coaching moves but not personnel.

KIS - I’m not entirely disagreeing with you. But, thought experiment - let’s just assume (because this is the rational behavior that you noted) that DRURY, through LAVI, did exactly what said: read them the riot act, told them to nut up, etc, etc. And. We are here. What do you do? My guess is that old tymey hockey DRURY wanted to make a point. My guess is that he knew what a lot here knew…this team as constituted is not getting over the hump. My guess is that when TROUBS kiboshed his summer plan and made the silly and self fulfilling statements like “this is the last try for this team”. First…yeechh. What kind of Captain would say that? Not enough was mentioned about that at the time. Doomed from the start. Anyway…back to DRURY - he sat back and said…ok…fine. Show me where I was wrong. Show me you got the goods. Show me you know what is better for org than I do. Oh boy did these guys show him. MY thoughts at this juncture….enough. DRURY, you made your goddamn point. These players are not worth it. But you can do 2 things at once. It’s entirely possible to can the coach who obviously is tuned out AND start your fire sale of the core. Best case, like what often can happen after a coaching change, the players get a spark, and their value goes up…and you STILL get to unload them and remake the team as you see fit. Worse case, players continue to suck and show it wasn’t all the coach, start your dismantle. Win, win, win, win. There is a lot of arrogance and entitlement and stupidity to go around here. Players, surely. Coaches, of course. Add DRURY to the list if he doesn’t do the above. It’s just rubbing everyone’s noses in it…and…for what. You won. You were right. Don’t be a dick about it.

KIS - of course the players are to blame too...especially the vets...there have been only 2-3 players (mostly kids) that have played with heart, guts, pride on a consistent basis...They need to rise above...They haven't tried...But when it permeates the entirfe roster, the main blame of the disease is on the coach and GM.....Fuck, look at the D that was playing last night......a Flopping Finesse Finn, Chad Ruwhedel, a midget Zac Jones, . aa totally decomposing and rotting Ryan Lindgren, the pusssy Adam Fox...For an NHL defense it doesn't get worse then that...and we have only been playing wimp teams.....I am not even gonna go into the lines..

TDCHI - I guess WE read what we want to read....As for Laurel and Hrdy and the mess the Rangers are in...If the Rangers ever want to be relative again and build an NHL team to compete for the Cup with tem like fLA and NJ in the East..DRURY must go....To get the current team to maybe come together and play better this year as a start...LAVIOLETTE must go

Fans need to stop blaming Drury and Lavi. Did Lavi get basically the same group to the Conf. finals? Has he won a cup? It's not all him. Its Drury's job to build a team. He has seen this team reached its peak and they cant win. How many of us have said This team needs changes because constituted this way they will never win the cup. How many of us have said Zbad and or Kreider needs to go.Drury starts trades to clear cap space and everybody blames Drury. Doesn't matter how he did it. He did it. If you don't perform at work you would be fired. these guys get millions and still have work they just get moved to another company or division. They still are working. You cant tell your boss how to run things. WTF? These guys still on the Rangers get millions to perform Stop your fucking crying and go out and perform. Thousands of people pay hundreds to watch you play and us people only make thousands not millions. Take the fucking skirt off and bust your ass. Enough of blaming be a man a step up. Hate this shit. Want to try and find a way to have people lose their jobs because your ass hurt over the way he treated your friends. Be happy you are still here in NYC

The thing that annoys me before the Cuylle fight is how many more whacks at the puck before they bury someone. It's embarrassing

I think you can see why this team sucks. When the older guys don't want to play The team is in trouble. Chytil for all his flash cant do shit when playing as a first line center. God he cant even be hit of he cracks like Humpty Dumpty. He is a 3rd line center until he proves he can get somewhat physical. Kakko for as much as fans want him to be good, sucks. trade his ass if that's what he wants. He doesn't have enough speed. he might have physical strength but he has no speed. I don't want to hear about development. You cant teach speed. When in five years has he taken over a game. When has the gifted ability shown that he can do more than win a puck on the board or skate be hind the net. When has he ever created or scored in bunches. Cullye isn't given help yet he creates opportunity. Laffy is one who needs to get his head out of his ass. Jones is two fucking small. He might look great in practice but he will never hold up during playoff hockey.AS we saw the past 2 games without Panarin this team doesn't have much of a chance to score goals. As Soros said," No Goals" Dont expect him to be a selke winner. He scores 100 points a year. Get a scheme to help him out defensively. Fuck This coach can be dumb as a rock many times. Smith would be good on a line with Carrick and Vesey. Get The 6'6 swede off the team he is a waste at least Remepe brought energy. SMH I hate this team right now

Season is over folks. Emily Kaplan reporting dolans complete support of Drury and his moves ..season over possibly another 10 years of sather.

Face the facts of where there’s smoke there’s fire… the arsonist of his reasons is DD drury, and the guy pouring gas on it is lardass. As a result they have lost the team, and are doing nothing to get them back except with punishment and threats of punishment. When those two get the message and have a team meeting to try and clear the air maybe they’ll get back to normal. I’m not betting on those two because I don’t think they respect the players, but they think they should be respected. Dolan has to step in and I don’t think sather will get involved since he’s probably not getting paid and is not tuned in. Until then nothing will really change.

And while I'm ranting...Dude, I just wanted to bring up that the two goals against yesterday? The two goals scored by a team that literally can't score goals? First one was on a TERRIBLE turnover by RUHWEDEL, who, for the life of me, I can't understand why he's in the lineup. With TROUBA gone and MILLER out, he is STILL not even in the top eight of defensemen depth-wise...I can at least cough that up to him being rusty...though that doesn't really explain WHY he's in the lineup...but still. Let's wave that madness for a sec and jump to the third...WHAT...in the every-fucking-love-of-all-that's-holy...WHAT was SMITTY Jr. doing on that second goal?! That wasn't Roman JOSI juking him out of his jock. That wasn't even Brady SKJEI pulling the dangle...Adam WILSBY. Don't know that name, you say? Well that's because he's a FUCKING CAREER MINOR LEAGUER. This guy is a duster. The ONLY reason he's in the NHL is because half their D is injured. I haven't said much about this guy, because he DOES look like he's trying...but FFS, he brings ZERO to the game. He hasn't worked with the bromance, surprise, surprise, and dude, he has become just as terrible as everyone else in the top six. After firing LAVIOLETTE, these two are the first ones I'd ship out. Put a fucking cone in their spots. They're goddamn $4 million in dead cap space.

Lardass everybody include DD drury?….”There’s got to be more from our team in general. From the players mentioned, from myself, from everybody. ” …. Start with yourself and your assistants.

OH...and I don't know if y'all caught this mystifying exchange between Al and Joe...went a little bit like this: 'amazingly, the Rangers haven't had a powerplay in over four periods. Why do you think that is Joe?' And then cue Dickaletti stammer for some stupid response...well, friends, let me tell you WHY that is. 1. If you don't possess the puck you're not likely to draw a penalty; and building on that thought, 2. if you don't possess the puck and you're not playing hard, you're not likely to draw a penalty. BUT...most of all? Where do a lot, if not MOST penalties get drawn? If you said high-danger scoring areas, pat yourself on the back. And that leads me to 3. They're not drawing penalties because they're absolutely NOT playing in the high-danger areas. And I mean no where near them. I can count on one hand the number of times I saw guys going to the slot or parking by the crease. And don't give me this crap about KREIDER parking his fat lazy ass their on the powerplay. The Rangers aren't playing around the net. At all. They're not parking in the slot. At all. All of their play is in the outside of the circle and along the side boards. That's it. And you NEVER win hockey games that way. Not unless you have the fucking shooter tutor or a goddamn traffic cone in net instead of Jussi SOROS. It's pure madness, and this is shit that ANY coach could see, much less a guy with a cup ring and several trips to the finals. And let me tell you: If I were LAVIOLETTE? I would be LOSING MY SHIT on the bench. This fucking guy is going through the motions. And his team is following him. My guess is he already knows he's done once the holidays are over.

Rangers are in a bind. I suspect the reason LAVIOLETTE is still here has more to do with the holidays and less to do with them keeping him aboard. I have ZERO clue how a team that is poised to dip below .500 and is officially out of playoff contention right now can keep its coach. Again. Hockey 101. If you need to make a change and you're not ready to blow up your roster, then the coach is your only move. But that's even before watching this team. Look, the Rangers are absolutely FAILING Hockey 101. Guys(and gals), take a second to watch them against the Stars, or if you stupidly recorded last night's game, against the hapless Preds...and let's level-set here: the Preds are a TERRIBLE team, that is without half its D...Several things are very clear. First is that the Rangers aren't sending anyone to the net. At all. Ever. Zone entries are the same goddamn thing every time: One guy carrying the puck and two others basically trailing him listlessly...THE MOST EFFECTIVE LINE is the fourth line. Why?! BECAUSE THEY DUMP AND CHASE. Again. Right out of Hockey 101. If you can't get anything going, dump and chase. Why? Because it gets your legs moving. It gets you battling for the puck around the board. And most of all? IT GETS YOU GOING TO THE NET. The top nine aren't doing this at all. BERARD and CUYLLE do it occasionally. KAKKO too. The rest? It's all stick handling and looking for the pass...Next? Look where they're shooting. OMG. Jussi SOROS didn't have to wash his jersey after last night's game, because he barely broke a sweat. Half their shots seemed like they were from the top of the circle on the entry. Looks like this: Guy enters the zone. He's got three players in front of him and NONE of his teammates...he takes a shot, it goes wide, opposition breaks out. And that's the BEST CASE SCENARIO. Because in other games? This abject stupidity leads to turnover-oddman-rush-goal. Look, these are EASILY correctable things, because they're elements of the game every NHLer has been practicing since he first strapped on skates. But yet LAVIOLETTE doesn't do shit. Just watches the same nonsense over and over and over again.

Semi-interesting read: https://bluelinestation.com/who-could-replace-chris-drury-top-candidates-who-could-become-the-new-york-rangers-next-gm-01jfbxpxb8gs

What a mess that's getting messier. Dallas will stomp them Friday. Why Dolans hasn't done anything is a head scratcher. Surely he's reached out to Sather for advice? It seems pretty obvious this regime is incapable of stopping the free fall so how low will it go before he reacts?

Hospo - see, I didn’t get that at all from RUPP. That, to me, as a scathing indictment of LAVIOLETTE. Sounds to me like he’s really singling out the coach, and also saying that he’s not addressing the BS caused by DRURY, and whatever he’s doing as GM.

Is this Avery stuff even remotely true ? Do I need to put my phone down ??? Can you imagine him working the phones with other GM's ? : Look you C sucker you are spineless just like the way you played. Give me a second rounder". Crazy part is that he is proably just as qualified as Drury is at this point.

Rupp just repeating what has been said here for awhile but glad he said it instead of being and ass kisser like Weekes...And though selfish, this Ranger player hate for Drury has to be sooooo strong (or an easy excuse) for not wanting to fight for each other in spite of scumbag Drury

TDCHI - Been saying for awhile, the only tradeable players on the Rangers right now are players you shouldn't trade (Kakkao, MIller) and that teeams will want to rob the Rangers and their woefully incompetent GM blind..Changing the coach has to be done but it MAY only stop part of the bleeding....Figuring out/Fixing the entire mess Drury has creted with the players and that the players have selfishly let get out of control is another story

Sorry, wrong link..... These are Rupp's comments on the state of the NYR's..... "Stanley Cup champion blasts Rangers coaches, management for ‘bull—- surrounding the team’".....https://www.foreverblueshirts.com/new-york-rangers-news/mike-rupp-blasts-coaches-management/

Mike Rupp's thoughts on the state of the NYR's.... https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/new-york-rangers/game-day/rangers-convey-mixed-messages-following-loss-to-predators

I’ll say this: I don’t think LAVIOLETTE getting canned is going to suddenly save the season…but at this point, you’ve got to do something. This is more than just a funk. This is more than a couple injuries. This is total collapse. And Rhet0ric is 100 percent correct: if you think the Rangers are getting ANYTHING of value for their players right now, you’re not reading the room. They will get shit for them. And then they will lose more. And then they will have a draft with only one pick in the first four rounds. Rock, meet hard place…so as they say…you have to start with what you CAN change without making things worse…and that’s firing the coach.

Hospo it appears the posting is now gone about laviolett getting canned..must have been BS....Dam it!!!

we don't agree on a lot, but spot on bout that and what I was trying to get at also....Hopefully somebody has grabbed Dolan's ear..

The biggest mistake Dolan made was making Drury President as well as GM. You now have no one in this organization that knows hockey well enough that can advise Dolan what the problems are and who we should hire to replace Drury. That's a scary prospect in itself. The only reason I don't believe the Spittin' Chiclets report on Sean Avery is that I couldn't imagine Glen Sather ever signing off on him.

Big Country gone? Peca????Good..But the real mess is DRURY..But Dolan doesn't know his ass from his elbow baout hockey..so maybe that's where Avery, Mess and Sather come in as a three headed Head of Hockey Opertions (HoHos!!) to pick the new GM????..I honstly have never seen a team quit on it's GM before..too much smoke for there not to be a little fire..and his brutal moves speak for themselves

Post reporting laviolett will be let go... Some good news I sure if it's true or not

Hospo I agree about berard he is ok nothing special.....buzzz saw my ass ...I said this before but what do I know .he has decent speed goes to the net .. too small

Rhet…Agreed…I would not let Drury hire another coach…The new GM would be doing that…Drury will go at some point…

At this point, I would fire Laviolette and put one of the assistants in charge as Interim Head Coach. I don't know what good bringing in a new head coach with a new system would do for this team right now..... In regard. to TRADES: we're going to be selling players for pennies on the dollar.

Berard hustles..but he sure isn't the buzz saw that everybody told me about..too small for any real impact buthe ag least trys...we need somebody that hits and hurts....like Trouba...Love the way the leadership has stepped up since the Deal...ANother Fine Mess Drury!..OTOH, Maybe the leaders are leading the mutiny???

I had the Preds broadcast, they were pretty much laughing at the Rangers, I think we had 2 guys trying hard tonight, Culyee and Shesty. Didn't really see much of Berrard between drinks, he may have been trying hard. Fuck u Dolan, Fuck u Dreary and fuck u Lardass.

VCP - I'm just the messenger! It should be a joke..but, given this year, it could be serious!!!

PJ - I was a one man wrecking crew of Laviolette last summer and I ate my crow come May/JUne..The team played welll and played like a team all freking year...but looking at this season aand one mis-step and poor ice time managemnt acfter naother, it's like night and stay..Still, you are hitting on whata i have been blming for a long time..Drury's non stop run of incompetence for the NHL team over the lst two years..and then topped with dropping three bombs in the locker room...Both need to go NOW..Rangers will never be relevant until they both are gone

While I agree Laviolette should go he was getting quite a bit of praise last year and we were the top team regular season and two games from Cup finals…He was given crap at the deadline by Drury….His lack of adjustments this year is baffling but at this point I am not sure anything would work with this team…

Who gets the Broadway hat tongiht? somebody should go into the locker roon, stop all the partying nd bromancing and find out!! Laviolette should have been gone Monday..Drury just wnats it to look worse and worse on the coach for hisself preservation...but he is responsible for most of this

VTRanger - Lviolette told the reporter between periods that he knows he hasn't devalued Kakkao enogh and, by god, it's the one thing he wants to complete before getting canned....

I wasn’t able to watch the game. How did Kakko end up with the fewest minutes on the team? Was he benched in game?

Ya know, Mark Messier hqs been pretty silent about this Giant soap opera.....maybe waiting to take over???

The players, somehow, carried Laviolette lst year...He has been an incompetent NHL coach since 2018...The game has long passed him and his methods by

Gotta appreciate the comical moments... 3 Rangers knock each other down on the 6-5 trying to keep the puck in ... u gotta laugh at this stuff

What is a Hagens..and a Schafer? I'll take Schlitz or Ballatine or Rhinegold myself!

RF4L, that’s because it worked so well last 30+ times before. To Me, biggest issue with Lavi is that he only knows how to coach is to really on his vets. Old time mentality and unfortunately, it is so dated that Lavi has no idea how to relate to his younger players. Similar to Gallant, Lavi is coaching every game like this is a game 7. Lavi had no idea how to coach in this young man NHL, where what had worked 20 years ago, is not working now. Thus is why Lavi can’t adjust since he has no idea how. In the old hockey, coaches really and expected that vets would figure it out. You needs coach that could work with both kids and vets. This old fool is too stubborn to learn new tricks….

BOB - I posted that earlier today from some blogger by the name of Steve Dangle...True or not, it just shows how far gone this team is..The head of the fucking ish needs to be cut off..BOTH DRURY and LAVIOLETTE..

Only 2 GA's, I can live with that. Kreider & Zbad on different lines at Even Strength, that's a good start.

The Joel Quinville era with the NY Rangers......starting in 5....4....3....2....

PJ - Agreed. EDSTROM is a minor problem..I just want him or anybody to fucking hit and hurt somebody...There should be punches flying in that locker room tonight

Wow Reilly Smith showing everyone he does not give a shit, so neither will I. No trade can resurrect this team. When do the Mets start

That said..this is so far beyond blaming our own persoanal whipping boys...This is a team and players that have quit...on their coach and themselves..on each other and are trying to lose..and giving a Giant Go Fuck Yourself to the most incompetent GM in the NHL....ANd not a single player seems to be against it....You can't recover from this

Another bad effort, not as bad as the last few. But Nashville sucks. Mike Ruppmhas a very interesting rant on X and YouTube. Word is they had a team meeting and a bunch of them bitched about Drury. Kreider whined about Trouba getting traded.

You can’t keep the coach. Just can’t. Even if you don’t think it’s his fault, you gotta can him. It’s the only easy shakeup here…now if it was me? I’d say head on out now, Peter. We’ll send you your shit. Fire this guy. Now.

Agree Edstrom is a zero but far from our biggest problem…Laviolette will be gone before Friday in my opinion…

It's official. From President's Trophy to the worst team in hockey, with little roster changes. And they said it couldn't be done!

And I m so fucking sick of EDSTROM too..The biggest plaayer on the ice and does jack shit

PJ, you are right, bud. I only post about ZShit. You know it. Just like I solely blamed ZShit for that goal against.

The plyers , Laviolette and Drury are a disgrace to the Ranger disgrace..a total disgrace...not a single ounce of pride, anger..It's like I'm watching Bill Berg, Mike Keqane, Valerie Kamansky, Jeff Toms...Can it get worse than this? It can't right..

If Z is on the ice for a goal he is solely responsible….This is true if you are Andrei as he doesn’t post unless it is about Z or Kreider…Pathetic….

I guess you expect professionalism from Reilly Smith. There has been more effort tonight. But crap execution.

The PREDS were the worst team in the NHL..How could the GM not fire the Coach after this> How could an owner or Staher not fire the GM after this? How DRURY has burnt this to the ground is mind boggling...How the coach is unable to get one player to play better is staggering? How the players as a collective don't give a Flying fuck is just unfuckingbelievable...

Maybe give Shaun Avery a chance , can’t be any worse than the clown that’s there now

Playing the worst team in the league, and getting outplayed, outworked and this is not even a bottom yet. Here comes Dallas..

Time to stop watching…. This team is pathetic from the top down…. The fact that they are sitting on their hands and not making any changes tells everything you need to know about the ownership of the team. What a f…. embarrassment.

CNP - Well, it's serious in that I read it elsewhwere.. but how fitting would that be for this Circus??

Another great play by Reily SMith!!! You the Man Drury!...Great Structure Fat COuntry!!!

Hospo I think you’re being serious with that report , could you imagine Avery as GM ?

OK, Krieder, enough..He is either A) Hurt..B) Quitting .or C) Doesn't Give a Shit and wants the Coach and GM fired......ANd I like Krieder..this is so sad......ANDREI - That AVery things was for grins..

Guess Dolan have not learned from Thomas Knicks disaster. Only took 15 years for Thomas to gently go into night. Probably the worst period in Knicks history, but hey, players feelings will be hurt under Avery. God helps us. Nothing better then no experience mentality unstable clown as a GM and no experience, self-centered Messier. What possible can go wrong. Might need to start following another team, if this dream team will take over….

OK..Need something to laugh about..."UPDATE: TNT NHL broadcaster Paul Bissonnette is reporting that former New York Rangers forward Sean Avery is expected to meet with Rangers owner James Dolan this week "to talk about the state of the New York Rangers." Bissonnette reports that Dolan could fire GM Chris Drury and hire Avery for the position. From Bissonnette: "I'm also hearing rumblings that Sean Avery is going over to NYC to talk about the state of the New York Rangers. There is a crazy element to James Dolan that might get rid of Drury and hire Sean Avery as the next general manager." Bissonnette would go on to say that Avery is "flying to New York to speak with James Dolan to talk specifically about the state of the team."

Waxsn't a bad kill..And Ruwhedel the squirrel found a nut with a good play...That's as complimentary as I can get with this bunch

Hospo, there is one down in Hartford, but Lavi rather play Feeses or JBlow, case he trusts them more. You know what could spark the team, sit down both loverboys and play Rempe. This team will get a rude awakening in Dallas. That upcoming game has a touchdown against written all over it.

This team needs ALOT right now..but it needs a player that just hits and hits and hurts..The excitement level is ZERO

Looking forward to the end of the Ranger Smith era. Another shitbox acquisition by Chris Dreary.

Smart totally necessary by the smart vet....Give me Brendqn Smith any day over his pue brother

Kappo needs to make quicker decisions. That turn over was bad. No need for that. Dump the puck behind the net and go retrieve it.

PJ - No life..No Pulse..No ANger..Drop the gloves for fucks sake..who cares if you get your ass kicked...Just do womething...Totl reflection of the shit Drury and Laviolette have created...Nobody can rise above..nobody

RF4L, I know math is hard, but the fun part about math is that it’s not your or my calculations. Numbers are what numbers are. You want to talk about it’s not ideal to trade 2nd rounders, sure. Trading those year to year hurt. But even 2nd rounders, only 30% make it, and that number varies depending on the draft. 3rd rounders are about 15%. So that’d about 5 players drafted in the 3rd round, will play 200 games in NHL. Again, we are not talking about stars in NHL, it’s 200 games…

Those of you thst complain about panarin this is how effective they are wothout him. This team has a hard time scoring without him

Andrei…The fact you mentioned neither of the D on that play says it all…You post only to criticize Z and Kreider and rip this team whether they win or not…Every year you predict doom for them….I mean why bother…

So, let me get this straight, Ruwhedel and the Finnish Flop start the period? Maybe they should bench SCHNEIDER too

Andrei. Totally disagree. Cite all the stats you want but you're wrong. Totally. Gone are a 2nd 4th and 5th. Cuylle is a 2nd Igor a 4th and Garand a 5th.

And honestly, i just want to watch CUYLLE every shift. evderything else is almost unwatcable....just like This "Joker" movie I tried to watch earlier

I'm sorry, this is painfull and bleak..I can cope by ripping this team when i know they are good..but when they are decomposing from the head down it takes the fun away...By the way, EDSTOM blows..

What can you do ... I did not catch the #..who was the Ranger player wide open in the slot who fell down when the puck was passed to him.. you just have to laugh ....

Andrei….You or anyone else blaming that goal on Z is wrong…Bad pinch created that rush and four Rangers back took nobody…The fact that Z wasn’t one of those four does not make him responsible…

PJ, oh no. Hank and Vali just called ZShit out. Nice try, bud. They must also have ZShit syndrome, right?

Rf4l, from 4-7th rounds, only about 5% of players will play 200+ games in NHL. Thats about 4 players in total. That’s in a decent draft. 2025 is a bad draft, so chances are, not a single player drafted late will even lace them up for the NHL . So no, loosing those picks is not a big deal at all.

RF: you jealous that Jim Dolan's dad created a Billion Dollar Company and Jimmy benefitted? Certainly reads that way over the years. Jimmy Dolan donated the access to MSG 5-8 weeks after 9/11 to NYC to host the Concert for America lead by The Who. In my world that carries a lot of weight. I do wish he held his managers more accountable and on shorter leashes.

Mancini and Robertson are worse than this?…Is Ruywedal and this Finnish goof our future?

Anyone care to explain why ZShit was the last player coming back on that 1st goal? I get blaming defenders, but defence is a job for all 5 players.

Think about this. There are 7 rounds in a draft. Idiot Dreary gave up almost 50% of an entire draft to acquire Smith and crud.

Is there any team in the NHL that has a smaller, weaker and meeker defense then what the Raangers are thrwoing out now?..Hell bring back Ben Harpur

An AHl defense of Ruwhedel the Rotten and some worthless Finish Fuck? Good job Dipshit Drury and Fat COuntry..Sorry , the stench is so overpowering that was the first time i was moved to post by this dreck

Chytil’s biggest draw back is that he doesn’t win faceoffs…his line rarely gets an offensive zone win and that hurts their ability to dominate the zone. Lav should try Cuylle-Trochek-Lafrenière

A 2nd and 5th for Reilly Smith. Geesh. CRud for a 4th. Who knew Kyle Dubious is a shrewd trader.

Just to be clear, I didn't say Brooks worked for Dreary. MSG is a great deal more than Dreary. And a nest of vipers.

Hospo…I believe Berard and Cuylle for sure have stepped up…They bring it every shift…Chytil has been inconsistent and Laff has been flat out poor…

NCRanger: Who needs a Top 10 Pick in a 'meh of a draft' and where we choose players like LIAS, KRAPPERHEAD, and mis-use a guy like KaKKo? IN this draft year, it may be better to trade our #1 away for a pair of 2nd round picks.

Wild - forget KK. Go say that to Zbad, Kreids, Smith, Fox. The young guys are not the issue here, lol. If anyone thinks the effort level of the youngins isn’t better than the fat cat vets, I would have to seriously discredit your hickey acumen. We’re not watching the same team. Btw, we’re 14th for draft lottery. No expect to be too 10 by end of January and depending on if the weasel Drury or Lavy is still here by then, I can only hope a major sell off puts us in the top 5. The NYR are the definition of team dysfunction from ownership, management down to coaching and vets. Blow it baby. You can’t hide now Drury. The verdict is in and everyone knows it….you suck

From the president trophy team to this mess is not an easy task. It takes effort by management to rip the hearts out of a team. And they think they are innocent of participating in the disaster. Place your bets on tonight’s game you have an hour.

Ottawa seeking top 4 dman. Send them Miller. Get Josh Norris. DO IT DRURY YOU PRICKJOB

This mess hasn’t hit bottom yet. DD drury and lardass are making mistakes as fast as they can. They are destroying the team with their nonsense. Grasping at straws

In regard to Vaakanainen: Absolute proof that we will play any defenseman not named Robertson.... Also: we sent down our most physical defender. WTF?

The NYY's finally get Cody Bellinger for minor prospect Cody Poteet. $5 Mil salary sent to the Bronx....Absolute STEAL.

Puck - wow, talk about set up for failure! Keep throwing the Shit agasint the Wall Lavy..!

WC: Welcome back. Re your post at Tue Dec 17 2024 5:45 pm EST could very well describe Chris Kreider, maddeningly frustrating more often than not.

TCHI - Yep, I said that yesterday..so many things we are seeing and hearing are the symptoms of the Drury-Laviolette disease..Trading Kakkao is giving the team an Advil instead of the Chemo it needs

Hits keep coming for kakko. Stuck with Zbad on 3rd line. https://www.reddit.com/r/rangers/s/LDmoswZd7g

ColoradoMark - I don't think anyone has said it outright, but that has been the rumor circulating today. Of course, we don't know what he said. If he's in the game today, then obviously he wasn't too forceful about it...I was thinking today about the Bruins and their ordeal with Jake DeBRUSK. That kid...that team...I can't even TELL you how many times I heard that he was on the block and had requested trades...At least a dozen times...Of course, he's now on the Canucks...so there's that...but the point being, players get pissed and ask for things...and who knows? Maybe they say OK that's it...or maybe they say this is a symptom of the problem...which, quite frankly, I think it is. I get this trade request? My first move is to fire LAVIOLETTE.

Just a quick reminder that KAKKO had two significant injuries...one that cost him half a season and another that cost him a quarter. Oh and another shortened 16 games by the pandemic...and another cut in half by the pandemic...I think there were some overly optimistic thoughts about the kid, but up until now? He's been the very definition of patient and has BARELY gotten a sniff at the top six. I can count on one hand the number of times he did. LAFRENIERE was the same way, but scored the luck of the draw landing with TROCHECK and PANARIN...which, incidentally, might not have even happened had it not been for CHYTIL getting knocked out last season...So before throwing the kid to the wolves, maybe just ponder some of the hardship he's faced...I won't even get into the lunacy of QUINN and GALLANT...

OH great, now we play the schlub we got from Anaheim for the one D-man that can throw a punch! :) ...I expect the equally reeling NASHVILLE to come out wityh intent to hit, forecheck and hit everything in sight..and i hope they do big time to see the reaction.........As for KAKKAO, I think this has been his best year..turning into a complete player when he was with the kid line and had great chemisty with CUYLLE....Also has turned into a VERY GOOD passer..Unfortunately, he still doesn't attack the net enough..and knowing he is fat Country's red headed step kid doesn't help...But, he WIll learn, just likely not with the Rangers...You do not give up on this kid....Don't mind his comments one bit...he just wants to play and play and be treated fair..I worry mor about how the other kids see this treatment and The comments i worry about are the ones coming from Laviolette and the milk toast vets..

CNParda- Are you just guessing KK has officially asked for a trade?I didn't see that anywhere?

I don’t want the band o quitters to get the coach fired, but benching Kakko Is a ding joke. His stats are better than the butthurt boyfriends combined and he, Laf and Chytl have taken a back seat with 3 different coaches that have retarded their growth. When the 2 kids (berard and Cuyle)scored to make it 3-2 last game and Lavi put the Mika, Kreider out for the final 2 minutes with the goalie pulled I threw up in my mouth. Watching this mess is too much. They’ll trade Kakko to somewhere where he’ll be top 6 and blossom and we’ll be stuck with the untradeable fat cats for years.

And quite honestly. If I could talk to Kakko, I would say “it’s nice that you don’t hold back with what you are feeling, but we will all know it’s bullshit if you don’t go out there tonight, show some emotion, some and some drive. Got it eh net hard with the puck, when someone hacks at you go sit a couple minutes for hacking them back jsut as hard or harder, when a play misses and it was close smash your stick, use your size and drop the hammer on someone in the corner, to hell with the puck…show some life or shut up and enjoy the stands” because if this scratching doesn’t make him angry and he doesn’t bring emotion to the ice…then he is not long for this team and maybe not the NHL. And before someone says he doesn’t have that in him…everyone has that in them, they just have to let it out.

Vince m “Is Laviolette concerned about his own job security? "Those are things that I can't control. I've been in this a long time. There's always those conversations wherever you go, especially if you've been in it for a long time. My real concern – the main concern – is getting a win tonight, getting back on track, getting back into the playoff race. Those are the things that we need to control and stay focused on."

“NEWS: The New York Rangers have activated D Urho Vaakanainen (upper-body) from Injured Reserve. Additionally, the Rangers have assigned D Connor Mackey to Hartford (AHL).”

Rhet: I said that earlier to someone on X, they were bitching about how he has been treated then said something about how can the team be ok with such a disconnect between the coaches and young players. And I am like, Cuylle, Schneider, Laf, Berard, Edstrom, Mancini, Jones, Rempe…even Chytil…and there is exactly one young player on the team who has been around a bit who has not repo fed to coaching and has been sat out by more than one and it seems whenever they want to give the team a jump. Thats Kakko. No other player is sat out over and over saves Jones. And Jones was out because of his obvious defensive flaws (man of which he has greatly improved on) so at what point do you stop saying it’s the coaches, when you need to list off 3 coaches in order to keep a story going…it’s pretty obvious that it’s not the coaches.

Been a long time since I considered Kakko untouchable. He wouldn’t hurt to trade for something that better fulfill things now. Maybe start with a big defensive defenseman. That is top need this second

Punch: Well I won’t take that second part with much confidence since I know the first part is wrong. I know through someone who k owes Drury personally that Christ Drury wouldn’t piss on Larry Brooks if he was on fire. So I don’t think he is using Brooks for anything. If he is, it’s in a way that leaves Larry not looking great. And that has happened before. That last part? I don’t have any reason to think he is close and loved, but that’s not his job, but he is respected for the most part. Yes players got upset by HOW Goodrow was handled but not what was done. There are a lot of stories out there about Drury and players getting at each their, and know through the same person that Drury prefers outsiders think that’s the case. He isn’t over his head, he is playing the game…and he has played you like a fiddle.

Brooks works for the Rangers' front office. If that hasn't dawned on anyone, well, I have no suggestions. But if it's in Brooks' column, it's been approved through back channels. I would play KK tonight, see if he comes out swinging, and if so let LAV take credit. There is no downside. He wakes up and imroves his value to the Rangers as a player or trade bait, and if he sulks aimlessly, he's not the right guy. But as I've been saying for a long time, Drury relationship with the team is atrocious on its bes day. The guy is in so far over his head he can't see the surface. Get him gone.

In regard to KAKKO: I don't know if I agree about his treatment here. This is his sixth season in the NHL. He's also had plenty of time in the top six(with multiple tries on each line) and he couldn't sustain the effort there to win a spot. Think about what Lafreniere did in less time there.... Now, this season he's fallen in the depth chart behind CUYLLE. At some point, you have to look in the mirror.

The crazy part about it all...is if there are two lines that have been good soldiers all season long...and really, with few exceptions, have done EXACTLY what they've been asked to do...it's third and fourth line. Even when CHYTIL went down, they did what they had to do. Benching VESEY? And KAKKO? BERARD? Hell, even Jonny BRODZINSKI? These AIN'T the guys causing issues. Did I also see Zac JONES mentioned?! Man, the soldiers are fighting the fight. They AIN'T the ones bringing the ship down...Let's just take a peak, shall we? Obviously folks here have been all over Z's jock...and KREIDER too...but man...Look at how poorly Vince TROCHECK has done to date: 18 points in 30 games and a -5 for a guy who is averaging almost 22 minutes a night...LAFRENIERE is giving Z a run for his money in the minus territory and PANARIN, who has been on the ice for the most goals for on the team is STILL sporting a -6. That is telling. Adam FOX, the guy coming off 11, 12, and 17-goal seasons has ONE goal. An empty netter. And while we're hear, let's get into the 11 million dollar man and his CAREER WORST save percentage. CAREER WORST goals against. And unless this team does a full 180, it's strongly looking like his three consecutive years of 30-plus wins will be coming to an end...and while I don't feel right piling up on SMITTY Jr., let's call a spade a spade: The dude is a third liner on most teams. And he's playing in the team's top six. I would put ANYONE from the bottom six in his spot at this point, even though he personally looks like he has more juice than the other five in the top six...so yeah. Deal KAKKO. Waive VESEY. That'll show them. Kill the guy who are actually playing alright.

Kreider for Frederic?…That is hilarious…Kakko for Greenway would be pure insanity…I disagree that Kakko was smart in questioning his benching…Especially if his goal is to get out…Kakko’s problem is expectations…He has played well this year but his offense is still not close to expectations….But for a team that can’t play D to save its life benching is bizarre to say the least… Z is weeks overdue for a multi game benching…

Mf have you been giving lb your traderator information? Did you start the Tkachuk rumor by telling him?

TD - the Chytil injury was absolutely the catalyst for this funk…they were already upset by rumors and then when Chytil got hurt, it’s almost like they went into a depression

It'd not just the lack of top 6 ice time for KK's frustration....It's also what his upcoming contract value is going to be worth. I'd be looking to prove myself somewhere else to get what I think I'm worth!

HOSPO - you are 100% spot on hoping that Laf, Chytil, Cuylle, Berard and any other young guys STEP UP! If they’re smart, they see the opportunity to create a new dynamic where they are EQUAL with the usual suspects who have let this team down time and time again with their disappearing acts. This is their chance to become LEADERS and if that means using their voices LOUDLY in the locker room instead of deferring to Mr. Sensitive, Mr. Navel Gazer and Mr.Force 2 Trades, then so be it. Panarin is too goofy & unserious to be a verbal leader. Those young guys should get together and say,”LET’S DO THIS!” They don’t need Kreider or Zibanejad or Panarin to be successful…play hard, play simple, play North-South

It’s is absolutely over for Kaapo Kakko being a NY Ranger…and Laviolette put the final nail in the coffin. They shouldn’t have even put him in the lineup tonight. This has been building through 3 coaches and the kid has been a good soldier but I applaud him for telling the fucking truth, “I think it's just easy to pick a young guy and boot him out. That's how I feel, to be honest." I’ve laid off of Laviolette for the most part but benching Kakko was unjustified and STUPID! The only way Kakko stays is Laviolette goes and I doubt that’s gonna happen. What a cluster fuck! Does Laviolette think he’s gonna now come out gang busters and show everyone a spark? Whatever spark was there has been EXTINGUISHED and it’s a shame. These fucking prehistoric, dinosaur coaches are all cut from the same cloth apparently…kiss the vets’ asses no matter how much they’re fucking up while young guys get made examples of!

Somewhere: Jimmy Vesey is thinking, "Bitch, I've sat more games than you and I have said one word."

TD: I get hung up on my POV's, but I see this current wish-list as attainable with what we have to offer without cutting too deep. Thoughts going into this included: bringing in an additional RHS forward, age, grit, depth to the 4th line in OLIVIER / Carrick / ??REMPE?? Possibility of CHYTIL/KUNIN to be shifted to the Wing in place of SMITH.

Hospo, then he needs to be examined by the team physicians and "if so" place on the LTIR. Let him go pout in a suit.

mf - it's deck chairs on the titanic. The Rangers don't have a personnel issue as much as they have an approach issue. All the guys you listed are solid grinders. KUNIN and SAMUELSSON would help the most, IMO...OLIVIER not so much, but who knows...Still, you need to talk about WHO you're trading for them...and WHO they're replacing in the lineup. KAKKO appears to be on his way out...but if you have eight players getting 70 percent of the ice and all they're doing is this wildly erratic style of overpassing, blowing their coverage and and not putting forth an ounce of D? Yeah. Same you're gonna get the same goddamn result.

MF - It doesn't matter if you or i are buying it, he ANNOUCED it to the entire NHL....Bitching fans like you or me it doesn't matter..A GM spending another 12 mill on the guy who just said his back is fucked up is not a risk I would take very lightly

Hospo: I'm not buying Kreider's back-aches one bit, it's just as likely this was his way of retaliation "IF" he was asked for his 15 No-Trade List "AND" the news of such was leaked out. (I don't recall Adam Graves ever complaining about his back) Phuck Kreider, if we need to eat up to $1.5mill per for the remainder of his contract, so be it, there are teams that'll be knocking on our door, beginning with Boston. I say Boston because of the proximity and Kreider's younger days. So we'd be stuck with Meek-ahh? Thats fine, he's in a slump, he's extremely talented when on, and we'll build a line around him.... Kreider's got to go with or without Meak-Ahh. Smith has to go, Jones has to go. I'd part with Berard if it means getting the right return. - I'll reduce my wish-list for easiest to obtain players: CBJ: (W-RHS)OLIVIER (Wallsters please critique him as a target yay/nay) SJS: (C-RHS) KUNIN, "AND a LHS'Dman, of which "IMO" we should try to obtain BUFF'S SAMUELSON even if it means living or dying with Connor-Mackey or in addition to acquiring another LHD if it means parting with LINDGREN (who might be willing to re-up here at a team friendly dollar amount & term....

RF4L - Larry Brooks? Saying something stupid?! NO. GET OUT. Actually, him and LAVIOLETTE aren't all that different. Two throwbacks. Guys who lack an understanding of how and how much the sport has evolved over the past 20 years. LAVIOLETTE ain't as bad as the dotard, but that's also not saying much.

The only way Znob gets moved, assuming he actually agrees to waive his NMC, is if Dreary Drury eats half his salary.

Hospo: Exactly - hence my pressure comment. Subtle pressure but it's there without a doubt. Those dressing room wedges are growing in size.

MF - No team in their right mind would terade for Meeks the way his game and effort has gone into the tanke...ditto for Kreider and his self advertised bad back and his own bad effort....Only kids will be trade...Kakkao..maybe Miller if healthy..Hope i'm wrong

And do you think the other kids aren't noticing how KAKKAO is being treated and aren't in his corner after how well he has played this season (ell, exccept for 2 missed back checks (compared to 30 for LAFFY and Panarina and Trocheck)?..Let's see if Dipshit Dickweed Drury and Laviolette can fuck this up even more

Sure hope Drury has asked Kreider's agent for the 15 Team No-Trade list because it should be critical priority in approaching any trades to be made. Next up, is a chat with Meak-ahh to inquire whether he'd accept a trade and to which teams, and whether it was contingent on being the same destination as Kreider. If he won't accept to be traded, I move for trading Kreider alone or in a package. I would not trade KAKKO.

VtRanger - haha yep, wouldn't surprise me at all if we tune in tonight to see KAKKO is a healthy scratch 'for the purpose of roster management' or whatever BS they used with TROUBA. The end is nigh...

Hey LB, your proposed KK for Greenaway trade is dumb. Just dumb. If the latter was 5 years younger and not headed for UFAgency, then yeah. But that's not the case. DUMB

Dude, KAKKO's comments aren't going to pressure anyone. As justified as they are, they're just going to piss people off and accelerate his departure from New York, which I'm sure, at this point, is his goal. To be on the verge of 24 with his talent and what he's brought to each game...and not even get a sniff at the top six? It's ridiculous. But the same time? Second-guessing your coach ain't ever a good way to go...But it's clear, there's a problem behind the bench and if you don't see it, you're not looking hard enough. In fact, you're not looking at all.

Good for Kakko. It's not like he's a rookie who is supposed to keep his shut. He's been unfairly treated for a couple of years now. Speak truth to incompetence. Nice to see a Ranger publicly stand up for himself. Too bad his display of much needed courage and confidence will result in him being shipped out for peanuts.

RF4L - As i posted yester day on that fresh legs fiasco and the result of that great move agasint St. Louis..Big Country sure does have his fat freaking fingers on the pulse of his team! NOT......Keep fiddling Nero Drury!........And part of me wants to see this team destroyed tonight to see it sink even further beacus of Drury and Laviolette, but I just can't ..Just hoping Cuylle, Kakkao, Laffy, Chytl, Berard and a few other do enough to win the game

Limbo: Surrounded by a tire fire! LOL. Maybe Lardiolette has nudes of Dreary Drury!

This is just some batshit crazy stuff. real or imagined...and the only ones to blame for letting it go so far down the shitter are Drury and Drury and Fat Country....I hope that Bizarre Dangle Podcast is accurate.....And now Bozo Brooks has joined Staple face in championing the trade of the number 2 over all Kakkao (who wasd kickinf ass just 3 weeks ago) for some physiocally inconsistent half-assed mentally deficient Mamaluke named Greenway? This shit is priceless..and Fuck Laviolette what he has done to KAKKAO....(and look at somne of the other kids also)...And I'm no Kid Monger!!

I just saw LAV’s reaction that RF4L quoted. Yeesh. What a disaster. It’s a clown show inside a dumpster fire. What’s next, REMPE posts nudies of TROUBS, lol? Everyone has lost their damn minds. If I own that team, I’m calling DRURY and saying: ok - before you all were just embarrassing yourselves, now you’re embarrassing me. Either do something now…or I will.

And finally, another reason I like KK's reaction is it's going to put more pressure on Lardiolette and Drury. KK isn't wrong in what he's saying, even if doing so to the press might not be the wisest decision. Other teammates are certainly bound to agree, albeit privately vs to the press, and that adds pressure.

BTW, when KK was pressboxed against the Blues, Lardiolette said it was to get fresh legs in the lineup. LOL. OK but the old legs should have been the choice, that being Z or K.

Also, when KK was asked if he is going to ask the coaching staff what he can do, he responded: "I'm not going to do that."

KK BTW with a +10 is 2nd on the team in that category. At the bottom is Znob with a -15 and Lafrenbust with a -12.

More on KK's reaction - he said this: "“I know you got to do something as a coach when you’re losing games, but I think it’s just easy to pick a young guy and boot him out. That’s how I feel, to be honest. I’m not too happy, I can say that. Haven’t been on the ice too much when [opponents] score a goal. I have not been the worst guy, but that was me out of the lineup.”

rf4L: I have also seen McMichaels production explode after Lav was fired. Nice to have young studs being studs in the NHL not 8 years after staring but rather 2nd year in. Like Hughes also. Lav is so old school. Rangers just going thru the motions, not wanting to be the one making the mistakes. Absolutely no chemistry. Its like they are all playing for a new team with players they never played with before.

Jerry - Well, coaches are hired to be fired. So, it was always gonna end like that eventually. I would say, some young guys like LAF and the 3rd line, have all taken solid steps during LAV’s tenure. Maybe despite the coach, but steps nonetheless.

TD: I suspect that's because the Rangers rightly or wrongly are committed to keeping Laf on the right side.

jerry: Check out how well Connor McMichael has fared since Lardiolette was ousted. His on pace for 35+ goals this year.

Limbo: COuld be. Or it simply might be a player who's fed up. I mean this isn't the first time he's been Lardiolette's (and GG's too I think). Lardiolette was asked by someone in the Ranger media his response to KK's statement that it's easier to scratch a young player vs a veteran. His answer? 'There's been older players who have sat out as well.' Yeah, JBrod, Vesey and Smith. He knows exactly who KK is referring to but provides that snarky answer. What gutless puke this guy is. The sooner he and Dreary Drury are jettisoned the better AFAIC.

Also, if that awful play by TROUBA on BENNETT was his death knell, this may be LARDO’s. ANY reaction has here proves he was either wrong before or wrong now. This was a move that results in the inevitable checkmate a few moves down the line….

Limbo: Same reason the Craps canned Lav. Never gave the young guys any quality playing time/situations on the ice. He lost the team as did Drury.

RF4L - IMO LARDO’s deficiencies are self evident. To me, this call out, by a young player, publicly, is evidence of something much, much different. I think it is more possible evidence that KK’s agent MAY have in fact, asked for a trade. How often do hear players talk like this? Especially players that really never accomplished anything in their pro career? Especially YOUNG players that really never accomplished anything in their pro career? Seems like it very, very rarely happens. Weird. Kinda refreshing. Potentially dangerous. But definitely weird.

For the life of me, I have no idea why KAKKO-CHYTIL-LAFRENIERE hasn't been an option. But what the fuck do I know...

Nevertheless, there's clearly something wrong with the Rangers, and you know what? It ain't friggin' Barclay GOODROW, or, before he was traded, Jacob TROUBA. This team looked SOLID in pre-season. And that's at bare minimum. They utterly steamrolled the Pens in the home openner, and while they had a couple of hiccups here and there over the next month, they weren't playing bad. But the warning signs to me were seeing LAVIOLETTE'S bench management, which got progressively worse, the more they started to struggle...and then what REALLY seemed to get them in a funk was the CHYTIL injury, if I'm being honest. Then there was that game...same night they were rumored to be announcing the SHESTERKIN deal...when they got utterly PASTED. Think it was that game against the Sabres maybe? They haven't been the same team since. LAVIOLETTE and the team BOTH look like they're grasping at straws. And man, you can SEE how they fucking up the very basic fundementals of hockey. Like stupid shit. Getting the puck deep. Clearing the puck off the boards. Fucking breaking out the goddamn puck. Shooting ON net. Going hard TO the net. Blocking shots. Just hockey 101...Is this some diabolic plan to get DRURY fired??! C'mon. Maybe LAVIOLETTE...but GMs typically don't have much convo with the players...And if we're going to blame it all on leaders...I mean, I gotta say there's just no real evidence there either. Again. A team that has gone to the conference finals twice in two years isn't gonna just pack it in because a dude like Barclay GOODROW was put on waivers...What this team...AND ITS COACH...need to do is get back to the basics. Play like it's game one. Do the simple things...Tell you what: BERARD jumped in with both feet against the Blues and started the trend. CUYLLE joined him. Just so happened they started too late in the game...but THAT is the approach they need to take. Simple as that. And if a line isn't taking that approach, they need to take a seat.

JFC31 - Dude, there's so much stupid he-said-she-said when it comes to those charlatans...but that's what gets this shit kicked up, because then you have, say, an old-fuck columnist who puts his ear to it all and then decides...'hey...where there's smoke, there's fire...' And suddenly, it's in print.

Good for KK. I don't blame him at all. More evidence on how the lack of accountability at Lardiolette's hands drives wedges through the room. I realize KK hasn't exactly barnstormed the league and I get the argument that he's been disappointing from the beginning but continually mired in the bottom 6 and being punished when so veteran leaders are arguably playing worse must be beyond frustrating. Another young player being ground into dust by the New York Rangers. Deplorable. Just watch him emerge on whatever team he finally gets traded to because there he'll get top 6 minutes. For fuck's sake at least give him some PK duty - he's had a few tries at it and did well. *SIGH*

Hey Drury, we're associates of 'Marcellas Wallace.' Marcellus Wallace represents all the Ranger Fans. - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFrgIrWmTeY&t=8s

Rangers lines and D pairs at morning skate in Nashville ?? Who-Gives-A Flying-Fuck

JFC....we needed the United Healthcare kid to visit Dreary before he went to McDonalds

Wow. You go KK. Out of the mouths of babes. Give that kid a letter. Kaapo Kakko: “Haven’t been on the ice too much when [opponents] score a goal… I have not been the worst guy, but that was me out of the lineup.” https://x.com/MollieeWalkerr/status/1869082830350987313?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1869082830350987313%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=

I swear to God, social media has creatd an industry full of grifters, bullshit artists and liars. The 2 main topics that give loud voices to these con artists are sports & politics. These people don’t even care if their lies are called out…they don’t care if they get exposed as being full of shit….they just keep throwing shit against the virtual social media wall because it gets them clicks. Steve Dingleberry or whatever the fuck his handle is, is one of these grifters. But, let’s say that there’s a chance this is true….that the Rangers players are so mentally & emotionally weak that instead of getting over the loss of Trouba and the floating of Kreider’s name in trade rumors, they decide to POUT and attempt to PURPOSELY PLAY POORLY in order to get Drury fired. If this were true, then for the first time in my life, I’d disconnect myself from this team. I want nothing to do with players who would purposely play like shit because their JOB isn’t satisfying to them….that they’d let fans, most of whom don’t make the money these players make in ONE YEAR in their entire fucking lives, have to spend $300 per ticket to watch them purposely play like shit. These guys feel let down and feel overwhelmed with sadness and anger over the way people they respect are being treated? Trouba makes $8 million a year and his wife is a DOCTOR! Kreider makes $6.75 million a year! Ya know what’s OVERWHELMING in life? Having to choose between medication and feeding your family! Having to live on the street or in a shelter with your family because you were laid off! That’s REAL presssure, that a REAL reason to be angry and resentful and to feel so helpless that you GIVE UP! Millionaires GIVING UP because they’re pissed off that their friends got sent to otger teams or are in danger of being traded..and then we have to watch them wallow in self pity and play like they’re in mourning? Fuck that shit! I don’t think that’s what is happening but I do think these fucking pansies need to get over themselves! Have a good cry and get back to work….put in an honest 60 minutes of 100% effort and GET OVER IT! These guys are blessed and they’re acting like life is so hard.

Rangers lines and D pairs at morning skate in Nashville ?? Cuylle-Chytil-Lafrenière Kreider-Trocheck-Berard Kakko-Zibanejad-Smith Edström-Carrick-Vesey Jones-Fox Lindgren-Schneider Vaakanainen-Ruhwedel Mancini-Mackey

"Larry" When are you going to confirm that the NYR Brass, Coaches, Players are dialed into this Wall? Throw us bone for crying out loud! Your colleagues can do the same as well. Thanks for the consideration.

I've heard a couple of deals tossed around that...well...make the idea of GREENWAY and/or FREDERIC sound dandy...one is the Leafs giving us their equivalent of talented prospect who's been more or less marginalized by the team: Nick ROBERTSON. Him and a sixth rounder and some other B-prospect was the proposal...they other equally silly trade was KAKKO for Arthur KALIYEV straight up...in both instances, the Rangers would be trading a talented puck-possessing forward for floating a-physical wingers. KALIYEV has a hell of a shot and ROBERTSON has his moments...but both would struggle here...I do wonder if the Kings would move TURCOTTE straight up for him...and that's a deal I could get behind. Shit, take SMITTY Jr. and KAKKO, give me TURCOTTE and KALIYEV...I mentioned San Jose a couple days ago. Same group to them for Luke KUNIN and Flip BYSTEDT. Maybe see if you could also get Nico STURM in there too. We could give them the gift of Sam CARRICK.

Jordan GREENWAY is a bit of...well, actually...an enigma. Back when he was in college and skating with the US team, he really looked like he'd be a force in the NHL. But that's just never materialized. He's a big dude and strong. And on top of it all, he's got talent. But he's also injured a lot and despite getting top-nine minutes, he's been a pretty big disappointment. Oh and did I mention he's a pending UFA? Look, I would fully support trading for GREENWAY. But KAKKO for GREENWAY straight up? You'd need to be a diaper-wearing dotard to suggest that kind of deal.

RF: IF you're moving IGOR, we need a Bonafide 1st Center Candidate coming back to us as these are some of, if not the most difficult positions to fill. "Quentin Byfield" types come to mind ......... gene_car: IF you're trading KREIDER, I think that the return needs to be better than Trent Frederic (jmo) https://www.hockey-reference.com/players/f/fredetr01.html

Larry Brooks advocating for a trade of Kakko and floating a Kakko-for-Jordan Greenway swap. Yes, getting equal value for our 2nd overall pick (who has been treated like shit, BTW) will be difficult but that trade ain’t gonna cut it unless maybe a 2nd rounder is included, I am 100% certain that Kakko will blossom somewhere else. What does “blossom” mean for KK? Who knows but I’d say 50-60 pts, puck control beast. Imagine him playing RW with 6’6” Tage Thompson as his center? He’s gonna do better on another team and then all the pricks on X who say he sucks will be clutching their pearls screaming, “WHY DID WE TRADE HIM?” I don’t know what Greeway is like in the locker room but we need a big, fat, cleansing wind to blow into that room & get back this team’s mojo! Say what you Will about Ryan Reeves. but his “SHESTY, RELEASE US!” is the kind of shit this team needs right now more than anything. Is it gonna make us a Cup contender? By itself, no…there is more to it than that. But, hockey players are creatures who depend on EMOTION & CONFIDENCE! Reeevs gave them a rallying cry and THAT is what they need now. Someone who can do that needs to STEP UP or be IMPORTED into that room! Then, we’ll see a spirited team again whose talent will once again appear.

You're not suggesting that the conflicts of interest of a consolidated, corporatized sports media make it impossible to rely on to accurately cover and report on a team, are you? Or that reporters, editors and publishers would stoop to currying favor with team ownership by ignoring their glaringly poor records in order to gain access in writing puff pieces, right? Because a system like that would violate every principle of sports journalism ethics. And that would be wrong.

Flood Dolan with emails it can't hurt jdolan@msg.com.....no one cares about what we say here

The NY media sucks as bad as the Rangers. Today's Post has an "exclusive" article on Sam Rosen". A major fluff piece. Ya, we know he's retiring! How about an article on why the useless GM always hides from the media and is basically a useless piece of shit? Or a piece about how bad Dolan's teams are and have been for the past 30 years? Or how Lardass should be fired due to his mis-guided use of Z and K and others? Or that, according to an ESPN piece, the Rangers have a 7% chance of making the playoffs? Nope, a fluff article about Sam, that's what fans need to see! I laugh when I hear all the time about how much pressure there is to play in NY. The fucking media gives them a free ride, if this shit happened in any city in Canada, then you would see some pressure! It sucks that Ranger beat writers and reporters are scared to insult Dolan's teams or employees.

Meant to add that there is huge pressure on Yzerman to get the Wings into the POs. Having Igor backstopping them would likely accomplish that.

How about Igor to the Wings for Nate Danielson, Sebastin Cossa and the Wings first rounder in 2025? I'll bet Yzerman would be very interested. Spotty netminding has been the Wings biggest issue for the past 2 years and the Wings have cap space for next year. Danielson was a 9th overall pick 2 summers ago and is a 2 way centre with 3rd line/2nd line upside. Cossa is a solid netminding prospect picked 15th overall in 2021. If there's gonna be a mini-teardown, Igor IMO should be shopped due to his pending enormous contract. Just musing here...

Limbo - It's funny you bring up CUYLLE...Because one of the reasons he HAS been playing the way he's playing is KAKKO...and of course, Fil CHYTIL. Those guys are fire together. KAKKO is playing really well this season. That whole line should be skating 17-18 minutes a night. But instead...12 or 13. Anyway, I'm not sure what else he could do to get better minutes other than maybe score more goals...but playing devil's advocate? Look where CUYLLE is in the lineup. Look at the minutes he's getting.

TD: Yeah I realize that's not the best example but hopefully my point was clear...

RF4L - LOL, what DRURY was rumored to have done with KRAVTSOV was a plus in my book! That little fucktard earned an attitude adjustment for fleeing to the KHL whenever something didn't go his way.

If KK demands a trade, he’s gonna get his wish. I wonder if DRURY will pull a SAKIC here. JS held onto DUCHENE for like a year before he agreed to a deal. That year was an absolute disaster for the AVS. But the pick from the losing brought them MAKAR and probably a cup.

If a Kreider for Fredrick (and maybe a 3d) is available get on the phone pronto. Fredrick gives us the sorely needed grit and K Is a positive by subtraction. It opens a whole new set of options.

AOAN: If the Rangers are gonna do some housecleaning I'd seriously consider moving Igor. He's replacement is excelling in Hartford. Dylan Garand has broken out in a big way in his third pro season, going 9-2-2 with a 2.20 GAA and a .926 SV% in 13 starts this season.

From where I sit all of this fits my understanding of Chris Drury. Dour and uncommunicative with an inability (or outright refusal) to consider the bigger picture when it comes to how his actions/decisions/behaviour might impact things beyond the obvious. Allegedly, he rips Krapsnot a new one in front of others (not privately) when he was GMing the Pack - anyone with managerial experience will tell you that's almost always the wrong approach. He never speaks with the media unless forced to do so due to roster decisions and when is the last time during MSG broadcasts has he been on the big screen? I cannot recall a single instance and you know that's intentional. What a weasel this guy is. No wonder he keeps getting fleeced at the trading table - he's got less personality than my big toe and probably has difficulty maintaining decent dialogue with opposing GMs. Good God, fire this incompetent prick NOW!

DRURY NEEDS TO BE SHOWN THE DOOR. DO NOT LET HIM ORCHESTRATE ANOTHER TRADE, DO NOT FIRE THE COACH.

This is the Dangle podcast. The NYR stuff is at 1:12:00 mark ....Everything is bad in New York City.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdJ_QkNYoKo

"IF" the Coach had/has each of the Top 3 Lines starting at 16 TOI minutes they are all getting equal time at Even Strength. Adjust up & down for the Special Teams, and the Top 9 Forwards are still getting Equal TOI. The Folks of this Wall have been clamoring for PP2 to be receiving 50% of the PP Time for Years. I'm going to be bummed if they trade KaKKo. Trade SMITH, Trade Kreider, but, ""DON'T TRADE KAKKO!""

I was putting off the Steve Dangle stuff because I didn't want to be the one to break it here. Dangle used to be with Sportsnet. If true, this is very similar to what went on with the Golden Knights. The team problems have persisted since this summer and Drury still hasn't even had a conversation with them. It's less about the guys being traded and more about the total lack of respect being shown to them. Also, they don't like all of the team's dirty laundry being leaked to the press. Including sending out a league-wide memo that Kreider and Trouba were available for trade.

ANd I see zero reason to believe if Drury actually does trade KK that he won't get fleeced. He'll probably include a high draft pick in the deal, too - after all, that's his MO.

Hospo: If by fun you mean entertaining, then I agree. I certainly am not watching this fiasco with glee!

DO NOT TRADE KAKKAO...The coach has devalued him to shit after being one of the best forwrds at ES on the best line at ES in the nHL for a month..Only plyers tradeqble are younger players other teams want to steal from a team in dissarray....Only hope is another desperate team

Frim the National Enquirer.... "Dangle made the report on yesterday's Steve Dangle Podcast, insisting that players have turned on their GM and are now actively trying to have him removed from his position. From Dangle: "There was a players only meeting and it was not to discuss Peter Laviolette...that relationship is fine...Their main gripe is Chris Drury...They want him to either change his ways or be gone.".............................I know the resentment is there but this i likley grbage....Stiil...I wouldn't be surprised but, in the 1% chance is true, Drury AND the players should be gone!...In any event, the Rangers are n embarrassmet...though a fun one to watch!

SHO - so true on the BENNETT/TUBA play. Given the stage, it was maybe the stupidest hockey play of the year. It would have been a better decision if he just stood there and didn’t move. That was peewee league stuff. The amazing thing - not many people noticed that THIS was TUBS encapsulated. You could pull any rando Thursday night game and see similar brain farts.

If kakko goes it's adios for me unless we get a haul back but Drury is there stupid.

If the KK news is correct, it’s not surprising. He has been grumbling to the Finnish press for years. I’m not saying he doesn’t have a point…to a point. The fact that he can’t get PP time is a crime. But how come we see CUYLEE’s play thrive and take off on the 3rd line and him NOT COMPLAIN OR BITCH LIKE A LITTLE PUSSY?! Bottom line on KK, he has been one of the worst 2nd overall picks for 20 years. So Rangery. Win the lottery, lose the war. I wish it didn’t come to this. Like I wrote below, I am very, very happy with him as a 3rd liner. Other than his linemates, he might be the best 3rd liner in the league. Hmmm…maybe I should read that last sentence again, lol. As long as he wasn’t overpaid. But he’s not happy. I can see why. But, doesn’t he see the winds of change coming? That his line will probably become the de facto 1st or 2nd very soon? That the bodies replacing the bodies moving out will be guys like HIM? Whatever. While his potential may be missed, his forgettable performance and attitude won’t be. I’ll just say this - we better not get another goddamn winger back, lol.

I mean, is anyone shocked? The Rangers have all but ruined KAKKO with a collection of clown coaches. The fact he’s NOT in their top six should be a warning sign to CUYLLE, OTHMANN, PERREAULT and every other young Ranger. Hell, KAKKO is probably looking at Fil CHYTIL’s journey and how he’s essentially been marginalized and kept in a bottom six roll since he was 18…I frankly don’t even want to consider the return right now. It’s gonna be positively dismal. And just watch what happens when he moves to a team with a decent coach…I say this with ZERO doubt: this deal is gonna make the BUCHNEVICH trade seem like a steal. And the result is gonna be just as shitty.

When does sullen Drury say anything other than short press releases after player movement almost certainly not written by him or terse press conferences he likely loathes. Thus nob us a PR nightmare but that's quite fitting given the arrogant silver spooned prick who owns the club. 2 peas in a pod...

According to a report yesterday, Kakko Kakko has requested a trade(it might be why they decided not to play him last game. Same issues as last season. He wants playing time in the top six (looking for that sweet, sweet top six dough you all). It's over, He needs to get moved, and he likely will very shortly.

Interesting that DD drury has not said anything about his coach and his assistants. Where’s his vote of confidence that would possibly send a message to his players? Must still be waiting for the dust to settle. He’s done a great job with kaapo as has his coach. Guess he doesn’t know that when someone quits or gets fired there are two people responsible. The person who is gone and the one who basically hired them. Unfortunately his leadership qualities and qualifications are from being a captain, not from being a gm. Until he takes responsibility and holds others to be accountable, the culture lives on. Quick fix approaches usually disappear quickly. He’s wearing out the seat of his pants. Guess he’s also avoiding lardass’s history while reliving it. They both need to get fitted for new empty suits. They can shop at peter principle’s defining store.

Rhet : I think the Bennett goal in the ECF ended Trouba Ranger career . Drew : As you said we don’t have a Messier post presidents title disaster season , no Keenan out there and also a cap so we can’t do blockbuster trades . It’s over

Tomorrow night should be interesting back down in Big Country land....two teams burning down to ashes..WHich team shows that they care? Would love to see Laviolette not make it to the game...We'll see..At lest then Kakkao might play!

VCP - re: the Finn being an AHL player. Should feel right at home here….so is half the NYR D, starting with LINDY…

Apparently, Sam Bennett is available, like legit available. It's also rumored that the Panthers may be willing to do a sign-and-trade for him. They're looking for max value for him.

Limbo Drury has no plans, he is in limbo he is incompetent. His track record proves he can't make a trade to save his life. .....good luck with the theory though.

My bullshit - for what it’s worth - guess at the possible blueprint: Drop anyone over 30 and not nailed down. LINDGREN will be gone as soon as the Finnish kid is ready to go. Others will go to the highest bidder, I assume at the TDL, but earlier is possible too. ZSHIT gets 5-7 minutes on the 4th line. He will fold and will pick his new home. I really hope we don’t trade anyone under 30. Yet. NYR will get at least 2 avg Dmen into the mix. They will get a coach that can teach a team wide d system, and for God’s sake hold ever damn player to account. Then reassess. If Panarin chooses to leave and fetches a haul, his money will probably go the next big FA. If needed, KK or MILLER can go for hockey trades. This won’t be a tank. Drury just gave a 28 y/o goalie the highest contract ever for a goalie, and an 8 year NMC. That is not tanking. He will try to replace the core talent, hopefully with a real plan. And not just sign a bunch of guys whose biggest fit to a championship puzzle is…the fact that they really, really, want to be here. That can’t be enough. Not again. So there it is. The NYR great reset. Or retool. Or whatever. The other possible plan - NYR signs a bunch of plucky, slightly antisocial, New England overachievers completely modeled after a certain lunatic GM. They may be, in fact….the first ever human clones.

Watching Emberson take effective regular turns on the Oiler backline and being reminded of Drury's incompetence.

NYStranger - you too? Hospo I caught your Wahostrom/Engval post. You don’t think those Tavares rumors don’t have me a bit intrigued?

E - There could be something to that..and formr players know more bout the locker room than I...but.....they didn't win anything last year so the motivation to win should be there.....plus it wasn't a really gruesome run..The Caps were an easy slam dunk...Carolina was a skating series..but, yeah, FLA just manhnadled them..Also, guys like Weekes rarely if ever lay blame on coaches or GMs...They let writers and fans do that..

Swap JT Miller for Zibanejad? IN a heartbeat, then, what can we get in return trade for JT Miller? JT will turn 32 in 3 months and is in the 2nd year of a 7 year deal that pays $8mill per. Trade for him and flip him. https://puckpedia.com/player/jt-miller

HOSPO: I was listening to Weekes. He thinks the elimination after a deep run really stung the team. He says that most of the team left it all on the ice and it wasn’t good enough. And so then you have Drury Goodrow and Trouba and he thinks there is a natural drop off. He pointed out that while Vegas has been decent, in reality the Oil, FL, yada yada haven’t exactly hit 2025 with the afterburners on. So he thinks fatigue is a factor but he thinks momentum is a thing. And it comes apart at the seams. Now me? When a team isn’t emotionally invested and lacks the ability to play the game. Sticks out of position, lack of hustle, keep going…

I can totally see Trent Frederic being available. He is an UFA on July 1st and he will most definitely be looking for a raise. To me: Frederic still hasn't decided what he wants to be when he grows up. I like him but I would not give up a ton for him. I also think you can get more for Kreider. JMO, though.

Not sure if I believe the rumors on JT MILLER and him having beef with PETTERSSON...or that they're actively trying to ship him...But what would be interesting is if the Rangers offered to swap ZIBANEJAD for him straight up. My suspicion, though, is that MILLER'S leave of absence had less to do with beefs and more to do with substance use issues...but that's another story.

The Bruins are at a point where they're probably going to do something similar to what the Rangers did with 'the letter'...not a full rebuild, but rather a retool. What they're going to be bringing back AIN'T gonna be players like KREIDER and LINDGREN. And while I wouldn't doubt that FREDERIC is on the market, there are other guys they're probably more eager to move...Probably COYLE, ZACHA and ZADOROV, for sure. I think if they could push LINDHOLM out the door, they'd do that too. But both have NMCs...Oddly enough, the Bruins are in a bind. They dumped a whole bunch of cap space into a core that has drastically underperformed. The only real difference between them is that the Bruins still have some decent draft capital and the Rangers have some decent prospects...but the teams are in similar places...and unfortunately, that means they aren't very good trading partners...I think if FREDERIC is on the table, the B's are going to want KAKKO back in exchange. If not him, then a first rounder. If not a first rounder, then a top prospect...likely OTHMANN...nevertheless, as I've mentioned before, he IS the type of player this team could use.

A het trick to Eliminate Carolina all the way to the fourth line. A precipitous crash for Kreider.

I really dread the trading of KAKKAO.....As for the BOS proposals.. Those moves might be good but none of these trades or any trades matter in the great scheme of things (Cup) if we keep ZBAD..He and his style need to be gone..Maybe trades of his buddies will make him more likely to waive his NMC and NHC...

Frederic is an impending UFA…so is Lindgren. Maybe a big package involving Frederic, Lindgren, Frederic and ???

Trent Frederic on the trade block! Could be a good add! Maybe Kreider to Nostonbgot Frederic plus ?https://insidetherink.com/boston-bruins-making-a-decision-on-trent-frederic/

E - We agree that the Rangers were not last year and are not the hard to play agasint players and grinding players that are needed to win the Cup...but....Was there a "character Issue " last year? I don't think so, the team never, ever quit.....So...what happened?.....the shitty treatment and the loss of Goodrow/Troubs? Laviolette's player handling lost the team??? the players all of a sudden decided to quit on each other and the team? I don't think it's the latter..even if I agree we need a better mix of "tough" plaayers

Any news on possible lines at practice today to see how much shit Fat COuntry is throwing at the Wall and how much they continue to devalue Kakkao?? Maybe it's best that they don't practice anyways....ANd, you know what would be good, if there was a good locker room brawl to clear the air!!

Friday, starts the NHL holiday roster freeze and there are rumors that a NYR trade is coming before then. I guess we shall see.

E scratching kakko over ZBAD really lavy knows how to coach NOT .no chance both Drury and Laviolett need to go but Dolan is too fuckin stupid.

Outside of the one good playoff run, Goodrow did NOTHING as a NYR. He had a total of 2 points combined in his prior two NYR postseasons. What is more likely, that he repeats that one good career postseason or that he reverts back to the norm?

Hey everyone, well this season sure is not going very well. I think a few of you (VTRanger and vcp'd on you) mentioned 1992-93. 91-92 was President's Trophy, 92-93 was the disastrous season followed by 93-94. A little personal DREW family synchronization - 91-92 I was in 11th grade, I graduated HS in 93, and was a freshman in 93-94. DREW Jr graduates (God Willing) this year so perhaps the world does revolve around me? The only thing we would have to endure is an Islander run to the semi-finals this year and then Sorokon or Varlamov plays Glenn Healy to Shesterkin. I know it's a stretch! We do not have a Messier and Fox is not Brian Leetch.

HOSPO: Fair enough. And I agree that Laviolette is a guy that hasn’t been great in a long time. BUT, he knows how to coach. I think it’s really a character issue with the team itself.

Where's LEGZ !?!? - People who read tea leaves are called tasseographers. They use their skills to interpret the arrangement of tea leaves to gain information about the future. Tasseography is an ancient practice that originated in China and became popularized throughout Europe by the Romani people. It's still practiced today in Turkey, where fortune tellers offer spiritual guidance from traditional coffee houses. --- You Phuckers better be wrong! :->) - They better NOT trade MILLER & OR KAKKO! I'd rather they trade Kreider and bench MEAK-AHH then trade away the youth!

E: I do not have another coach in mind, but I (personally) would like to see if someone else with a different system and line combinations/times could do better. At least it would, perhaps, highlight where the greatest strengths, weaknesses and needs are moving forward. I'm willing to forego this season at this point with this crew and sell high at the deadline to move forward with a younger core. It's hard to be entertained or find players to root for with this bunch.....

You know when my buddy Andrei and I agree on something, there is some serious shit going down. Like biblical stuff. Dogs and cats…living together, lol! I fought it for a long time, but you finally got me on the ZShit train. But, I had zero issues with GOODY on our 4th line…at league minimum. He has his warts, but I didn’t hate the player at all, just really hated that contract. TBH - I may not be the right guy to chime in…I think most 4th liners kinda suck. Otherwise, they’d be 3rd liners, lol. IMO, they should all be league minimums.

TDCHI - Been my read of the tea leaves too..givcing up on and giving away KAKKAO and Miler first....will do nothing.....treating a symptom but not the cause

andrei - You are not getting it on Goodrow,,,,,What Ranger fans like you, me or anybody want or what we felt about Goodrow's performace (Possibly the best Ranger forward in the POs) don't mean shit...Here, we are talking about a mind fucked rudderless team and what Goodrow and his leadership/experience might have meant to them..And again, You or I don't know..Only the Locker room does...But look at this team and the teamwide mweltdown..it's so much more than..ZBAD sucks..Kreider sucks..Panarina doesn't give a shit about defense

Now back to Goodrow's. Just so we clear, Rangers fan wanted Goodrow out bad last season, where he ended up scoring only 4 goals. Could not wait to see him gone, before he went on having a good playoffs run. Now, on SJ, same Goodrow is on pace for 9 point for entire season, currently with 3 points in 28 games. So Rangers should have kept that gem and it would have resulted in a better season? Common, I really hope we are smarter then that. I will take Carric over Goodrow any time of the day.

Limbo, good post. My point was basically the same. This concept that players are folding or there is a mutiny over GM moves is just not real. Like I get the idea that Goodrow was a voice in the locker-room and his departure created a void. O'key. Sure, it makes sense. But then if the team had a strong leadership, it would not be a problem. Present exhibit A, Tampa, where it's core had no problem absorbing team's captain departure. Since it is a problem with the NYR, then the problem is not with Goodrow departure, problem is with the so call "leadership" of the team, or lack of it.

Well I will say this: If DRURY does decide to fire sale, and he gets back a boatload of picks, that might actually be a decent thing for the team because that's about as close to a strength as I can see him having: Drafting guys. But I just don't see that happening. My read of the tea leaves is that they'll give away Kaapo KAKKO for an older player on an expiring contract and when that doesn't correct the ship, they'll can LAVIOLETTE.

Kreider & Lindgren are tradeable. Zibanejad may be difficult, and we may be stuck with him. That might not be terrible as long as Kreider (half the bromance) is moved.... Adding Kreider & Lindgren to the trade-list along with, Smith, Jones, Berard, Vesey, possibly Edstrom, should bring back a handsome return and some picks.

I know it's hackneyed to blame the coach, but FFS, you can't look at three bad choices for the bench and say it ain't the coach. Rather it's three bad choices. QUINN was obviously the worst, because he just sucked and was the stupid runner up when MONTGOMERY chose Dallas. Then GALLANT. I mean, just look at that dude's history is all you really needed to do...and LAVIOLETTE? The dude hasn't been relevant in more than a decade. He's the very definition of old school coach...As I mentioned before, the Rangers desperately need someone who thinks outside the box and understands modern systems...and what it takes to compete against top-level teams...LAVIOLETTE showed some promise last season, but again...he slips into the same bad habits as GALLANT did/does...and at this point? The only move that makes sense to try and salvage the season is to can the guy on the bench and bring in someone new...The team is getting utterly smoked by the entire NHL. Not just the good teams. All of them. And LAVIOLETTE has no clue as to how he should staunch the bleeding. The best he has to offer is benching fucking KAKKO, and throwing RUHWEDEL into the mix. Like seriously dude. Maybe start with playing the guys who are skating hard and not playing the guys who are struggling...

JFC - For sure, they need a reset somehow, someway...And I can't see that with the coach and/or no changes to the VET core..(not Kakkao and Miller)...I am shocked if nothing happens before the Nashville game..

Send Krieder to Boston, get back Georgii Merkulov! A viable trade? Who TF knows but all I “know” is this….this group is absolutely unable to handle distractions or “worry.” Drury did not recognize this and that is in him. The summer Trouba saga started it off. Kakko was also mentioned as being shopped. Then our “leaders” starting saying “this is our last chance as a group!” Trouba started pouting or at least not leading in the locker room the way he did before and that put a black cloud over the locker room. Lindgren has been bad since Day 1 & everyone knows he’s not gonna get signed if he sees his upcoming UFA status as his big chance at a BIG PAY DAY! So that effects him and FOX! Zibanejad is scared of losing Kreider and that’s effecting HIS play and Kreider himself is an insufferable navel-gazer even in the best of times….now he’s overwhelmed.And now the coup de grace…the losing streak has the ENTIRE LOCKER room looking over their shoulders wondering when the next shoe or shoes are gonna drop…with many worrying if THEY will be shipped out. If Drury is intent on changing the heart of this team, he needs to do it ASAP and then make the, “OK, I’m all finished now, this is our group going forward” speech so they can all RELAX and stop being distracted! That is the only way out of this…get rid of the black cloud of doom & gloom hanging over these players!

Thought this was interesting, pulled from the CAPS press. For those who watched the Capitals stumble under Laviolette, this appears to be Part 3 of a four-part play — and we all know how this play ended. We extend our condolences to Rangers fans though. These are the moments that test your hockey fandom and it’s no fun to go through.

The thought of Drury retooling doesn't have me drooling because he needs GM schooling and that's my ruling!

HOSPO - haha, fair enough. I just hope the next crew that gets in here does it right. A cup would be nice. Us oldtimers don’t have too many seasons left of this shit…

E - very thoughtful post. Some other food for thought - TBL. MCD got the TROUBA/GOODY treatment before it was en vogue. A 2 time SC winner. Anchor of the D. Told, take a trade or get waived to dreck. Did KUCH/POINT/STAMKOS shrivel like grapes in the sun? Nope, they played. Then their home grown all time Captain STAMKOS was unceremoniously not picked up. Did the entire org go belly up? Nope. So, as much as DRURY deserves shit, and he does as he has caused a lot of this, when other GMs do this stuff without vilification…sorry, the NYR one gets to as well. It’s just business. TBH - DRURY’s biggest mistake, not being tough enough. When TROUBS put the kibosh on that summer deal, right then and there, DRURY should have given him the MCD deal. Letting it fester was hopelessly naive. As far as the rest of the team, my guess, DRURY knew exactly what he was doing. Either the players are pros, like TBL, and keep fighting and playing. Or they go belly up. Either way, it gives data. It gives info. And in way, allows the tough decisions, like a timely MCDing of TROUBS in the summer, to be more easily made.

LIMBO - that meant it wasn't personal! It's business! :) I was just frustrated with your take (even if it may be right!) and the entire situation....Well as Al Pacino said. in ANd Justice For ALL...The players are out of order! The Coach is out of order! The GM is out of order! The whole damn fucking organization is out of order!!....

mf - I DO NOT want to part with any of those guys. But those are the players you're going to part with if you're pulling in NHLers. SMITTY Jr? You'd be lucky to get back the original second rounder for his ass, much less an actual player. VESEY might get you a fourth or fifth rounder. JONES probably has some value. I could see the Sharks and Jets parting with KUNIN and KUPARI for him...but then who are you inserting to take his spot in the lineup? Point is, to get value, you need to give value and the Rangers right now are not looking like a team that is one or two players away from making a deep run...so if the idea is to make the team tougher, they're going to need to part with pieces for the future. And none of those deals is going to be popular. A healthy OTHMANN and a first rounder would probably get you something halfway decent. But is that one player coming over gonna magically transform the team? Probably not...Like I said a few days ago...probably the only deal that could really right the ship would be to try to grab either O'REILLY or STAMKOS out of Nashville. Strengthens up the middle. Would give first line some punch...but the cost? It ain't gonna be cheap.

E - Laviolette WAS a good coach.....His modern record has been , well, SHITTY....Since 2018 and until last year, a Laviolette team hadn't even won a PO series...And after seeing this season and his antiquidated and incompetent handling of players, an arguement can be made the last season's success were the result of the PLAYERS carrying him!...but back to the staus quo this season......That said, the players do deserve blame also....but when it's 15 players and when the only cosnistent traits are bad ones, it points to the coach or a coach-player mismatch.......having a GM that didn't botch almost every move for 2 years would be helpful also

It's hard to say what's going on un the room but we've had 4 coaches with this core group and there are still issues. I believe it's time to change the core group.

I emailed Dolan at jdolan@msg.com to please get involved what if all of us do this ? Won't matter I know.

HOSPO - I’m not sure what “I was..but only in terms of the discussion” really means. I am going to assume that is wasn’t directed at me or my opinions personally, and you were just blowing off steam. I have been doing that a lot recently too. Bottom line, very few in the NYR org are without blame here for this mess. Maybe the tape guy, lol?

47: What do you think firing Laviolette will get you? For me? Hes a fine coach. He has a limited shelf life wherever he goes but so do most coaches. He has done a lot of winning. I think at some point you have to look at the players and put the oneness on them. Now I get it, coaches usually pay the price. That’s hockey. Getting rid of the coaches is the easiest thing to do. But the team hated Quinn because he was too in their lives and apparently that bugged him. They brought in a players coach and after year-2 hated him because he wasn’t a good x and o’s guy. So, they brought in a cup winning, no nonsense old school hockey coach who has been in a million big games and is known as a great bench boss. Now they want him gone to? I get it. Go get Queneville or some other nice shiny object. Hype up all their winning and commitment to excellence. And watch them on year 2 or 3 exit stage left with a mediocre record. And on to the next shiny object. This is the Ranger way. It’s been that way I think pretty much always. Between that instability and that constant need to get the next great 31-year old star and sign them to a 12-year cap crushing deal is maddening. You know Laviolette doesn’t have his team. You know what kind of team Laviolette wants. Look at the teams he has coached. Look at Nashville. That was a Laviolette team. Do the Rangers even remotely look like Nashville? A team that you couldn’t score on. A team that played a stifling yet boring style that excelled in shot suppression. And a team that was probably the most physically intimidating thing this side of those Anaheim Ducks teams for a few years. But Laviolette needs to be fired? Right now? I am more on the Drury must be fired if anything. And Im not 100% on board that bus till after the season. This is an issue with the team. It’s a structural issue and its a character issue. They are not the sum of their parts. And that aint on the coach who didnt suddenly forget how to guide a hockey team. If you want someone’s scalp for this? Go get Drury and a few of the players who have been here thru every character disaster since Tom Wilson beat Panarin (the best player on the team) and stood in the box like a moron flexing because he was pounding on guys that might as well have been children. After all, thats in part why Goodrow was here in the first place.

Can we pen a letter and send it registered return receipt? "Or" To email the New York Rangers front office, you can send a message to newyorkrangers@thegarden.com. You can also contact the Rangers by phone at (212) 465-6000.

DOn't know what more can be said...we all have different opinions on why this entire NHL team, including vets and kids, is burning down to the ground...The only thing we can do is have fun watching NERO DRURY and LAVIOLETTE continue to burn it down (last nigth a classic example with the KAKKAO benching and the ice time at the end and relying on Drury provided depth crap like Brodz, Ruwhedel, Mackey, Edstrom; and the impending trade of red headed step kid KAKKAO)) or watch it, miracle of miracles, rise from the ashes.....Must see TV either way!!

DRURY is looking at those 2026 and 2027 third rounders and the 2025 fourth rounder and is probably salivating uncontrollably.

VtRanger - BWHAHAHA!! I stand corrected. The evil of Kappo KAKKO knows no bounds. The guy is CLEARLY ruining the team.

One thing I respected about Drury the player but I hate as a GM is that unflappable quality he has. It almost makes me wonder if that personality isn’t a media front and he really has that personality then this family argument I was in where I argued that I think Drury has like a bit of a Schizoid Personality Disorder.

I personally hope there are no moves (esp Kakko) until they replace Lav and see what happens as a result.

Too bad no one on this wall has connections to this Dolan fool. Drury needs to go NOW !!! And Laviolett. ......let's do a protest at MSG like Dolan would give a crap....stop buying tickets then he will say geeeee what happened.

TDCHI: I am not concerned with the lack of picks because I think that if this team isn’t gonna make the playoffs Drury will retool. And they will get a healthy number of picks and prospects in return. And when you backfill with what they already have you aren’t in atrocious shape. The lack of potential identified game breakers outside of Perrault and to a lesser degree Othmann is definitely concerning but picks? I think that is manageable.

Anyone care to guess whether KREIDER was asked to submit a list of the 15 Team's he would NOT agree to be traded to? And if he was asked, was the news leaked to the NYR Locker room?

TD: your last post read a little awkward for me, but I believe that list of prospects are players you "do Not" wish to part ways with at this point in time......

HOSPO: Ive been going back and forth on how much a letter on a jersey really matters. Most of us dont really know the personalities of the players or the team dynamic so it’s hard to tell who actualy leads. Like back in 2011 everyone was talking about Callahan as the captain but it turned out Brian Boyle was the most vocal guy in the room. Goodrow is the kinda guy whos been there and done it. Hes seen everything in the playoffs played on deep runs his whole career and barely knows what its like to lose. When he talks I bet the players listen. Hes tough serious and hockey culture valuse that. Ive questioned how much captains realy impact the game on the ice but off it leadership matters. Dumping Goodrow hurt and the way it happend was kinda dirty. I get the economics but losing him was a big deal. Failing to move Trouba made it even worse. When your captain knows the team tried to get rid of him it messes with chemistry. Players arent stupid they know whats going on and it sends the worst posible message. How can you expect him to lead a room full of guys when everyone knows management tried to ship him out. It undermines not just Trouba but the leadership structure of the whole team. And despite the poor play back to last season in the Anaheim interview with Trouba it wrecked his confidence too. He looked completly off in the Anaheim interview like it had totally rattled him. When your captain is checked out or unsure of his place it affects everyone. That creates distrust and weakens the locker room. Goodrow was the glue guy with leadership and stability. Without him this team feels like its missing a backbone. Now the Rangers look like they did before Goodrow showed up talented but missing a key guy to keep them on track. Meanwhile Goodrows in San Jose making a bad team compete harder every night. Thats the kinda influence the Rangers are missing. It feels like Drury misjudged everything. He underestimated Goodrow and Trouba’s value and overestimated the rest of the team. Leadership isnt something you can just replace midseason it takes time. This team feels hollow to me now. It’s missing the heart or soul or whatever. Maybe in the vacuum Lafreniere begins to assert himself more? I don’t know. Ironically, some of the kids ooze with character. Look at Jones. This kid is coming up the hard way and he never quits. He has his limitations but I find his energy inspiring. I think Berard will be a leader on this team someday as well. Maybe the reality now is the Hail Mary. Go grab a few guys who are playoff warriors. Journeymen guys that every team looks for. Maybe a Maroon type of player has more value than a Vesey right now. I don’t know but I do know Maroon while fading as a player on the ice is a guy thats been there in those games. A lot. It’s my experience (maybe all of us) perhaps speaking but being a Ranger fan does give you a bit of cynicism from some form of domestic violence trauma and PTSD. As such I think this season is right on the edge of being lost. And if that happens then they were oh so close yet again but oh so far. That will piss me off so much because it’s just SOR. Same Old Rangers. But dont worry Rantanen will be a UFA and on July 1 they can buy him and we can have that SOR experience. All the sizzle and none of the grizzle.

TD: You are wrong, wrong, wrong! This entire situation is the fault of one man and one man alone: Kappo Kakko!!! Scratch him until Drury can trade his sorry ass out of town (for a third round pick). Then everything will be fine. FFS, last night was the first time in many years that I voluntarily chose not to watch a Ranger game because of my disgust with how this team is managed.

Here's the problem: The Rangers basically have no second, third and fourth round picks for the next three years. So if you're looking to get one of those names, you're going to need to dip into your first rounders OR trade away a promising prospect. Let me tell you that there aren't many names us fans want to see moved...but here's a quick list: PERREAULT, EMERY, LABA, GARAND, OTHMANN, FORTESCUE and SYKORA...you might could add CHMELAR, McCONNELL-BARKER and ROOBROECK, all three are more valuable as prospects than they would be as trade pieces. Maybe Matt ROBERTSON...but here's the other rub...the Rangers are going to NEED those prospects in the very near future so that can ice a team with the most expensive goaltender in the world...Hello rock. Meat hard place. There's not really much the Rangers can do at this point other than stay the course and mop things up in the off-season. Anything DRURY does will basically be getting pennies on the dollar because it doesn't take a genius to see he's in a very, exceedingly desperate position.

We need to move forward: Here are some names du jour until the fickle winds change my mind. -- How little can we trade away / part with, to acquire: (1) CBJ OLIVIER (2) SJS KUNIN - (3) WPG KUPARI (4) BUF D'man SAMUELSSON ..... There are no huge names there, just the type of players we here pined for the end of last season which was, "1 RW, 1 3rd line Center, 1 LHS D'man. What did we get? RW Smith, Chytil back from injury at Center, Gorilla MonSoon JONES on Defense..... Which brings me back to the TRADERATOR! On the way "OUT for starters," - Smith, Jones, Vesey, Berard, "and" we can eat salary this season and possible next too, but I would not go past the end of next season eating salary. -- That's as good a start as any, if the collective WALL-Opinion is to cut deeper, look at KREIDER, LINDGREN (but then we need 2 LHSD-men), and IF he'll agree, "Zibanejad". to be continued.....

Didn't know what to make of the Dreary hiring on the beginning but those deadline deals in year 1 was enough for me to see he's in over his head. Abd he's gotten worse over time incredibly enough. Agreed there's no reason to trust his ability to address the mess he's put the organization in. In fact the opposite. Fire the phucker. Now!

Oh and if you're hoping for a trade to rescue this season, I will remind you that DRURY has lost just about EVERY trade he's made to date. I cannot think of one that actually helped the Rangers for more than a month or two. And now I'm hearing KAKKO rumors heating up again...let me tell you how horrific THAT trade will be if it comes to pass. We're three years into the DRURY era and the best I can tell is that Jeff GORTON'S magic is beginning to wear off and we're getting our first real glimpse of the unmitigated disaster DRURY is as a GM...and this is coming from someone who did and still does desperately want to like DRURY. But man, I simply can't ignore the bold-faced writing on the wall here. He's a fucking hot mess.

LOL, this season AND this team is on DRURY. And if you don't believe that, you gotta be giving yourself a proctological exam with your head...DRURY has made a complete mess out of a team that was well on its way to success. The dude has made SOOOOOOOO many self-inflicted wounds, it's really kind of hard to fathom them all...I mean, let's start right out of the gate with the absolutely stupid BUCHNEVICH trade. Gave away HOWDEN too. Then just one shitty signing after the next. NEMETH, the GOODROW contract...hiring retreads like GALLANT and LAVIOLETTE...failing to find anyone to play with Z and KREIDER and using the trade deadline as an annual three-month try-out for that spot...VATRANO, KANE, TARASENKO, ROSLOVIC and now SMITTY Jr...the crazy amount of picks he has thrown away in those deals is mind-bending. All for pending free agents that he lost for nothing and, consequently accomplished nothing...The TROUBA saga. Like what fucking sense did that deal make?! Again. Self-inflicted injury...He's passed on so many easy signings to go for just total dreck. Like to think: WE TRADED A SECOND ROUNDER FOR SMITTY, a guy basically on pace to score 40 points playing on our first line...we have an $11.5 million goaltender who has no defense in front of him. We have a coach who continues to heap minutes on ineffective players. I man for absolute FUCK'S SAKE...if you're not blaming DRURY for this, you need your goddamn head examined...I liked the idea of Captain Clutch coming in...seemed like he'd bring accountability...instead what he's brought is a total mess and almost no way out of it except to wait and hope his draft picks turn out perfect. Because if we're doing a quick job evaluation here? That's the only part he's passing...and the total irony is that the Rangers barely have any draft picks left, so again...self-inflicted injury...this is 110 percent on DRURY. He is the architect of this mess. And quite frankly, I don't see him having the wherewithal to get out of it. I mean, the shit that we saw this weekend is just damning. The first goddamn step is to fire the useless coach and find someone who has a brain to be behind the bench. Not stupid retreads. A real goddamn coach for once. Oh...and just a quick reminder on that end? we did have Kris KNOBLAUCH. And he coached his first professional games behind the Ranger bench. Oh and guess what? DRURY passed him over to hire the clown they got back there now. So is it on DRURY? You fucking better believe it's on his ass.

https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/buffalo-sabres/latest-news/insider-proposes-massive-sabres-canucks-blockbuster-trade

IF I were Drury those phones would be working Overtime to every GM in the League.

LIMBO - I was..but only in terms of the discussion...If you're telling me GOODROW wasn't an on-ice and locker room leader for the players on the Team and the A and the Captain of the team Trouba wasn't an on-ice and locker room leader for the players of the team..well we coulldn't disagree more.....Now, our opinons of their leadership is meningless compared to what the players in the locker room felt.....ANyways, SOMETHING IS AMISS TEAMWIDE and it includes the coach and Drury..Then again, that's an opinon...DRURY's horrendous handling of the the NHL team and it's playable depth over the last few years OTOH is not an opinion, well in my opinion at least..:)

GENE CARR - Spot on about the Coach and the D..but while the individual performance of D men is lacking...they all look 100X worse because of the lacko of backchecking, horriffic positioning and zero commitment to defense by the forwards, vets, and youngsters, who just don't seem to care..As a result, we have the Keystone Kops defense strategy

Laviolete is in a time warp. He is stubborn and refuses to play a zone defense which needs to happen. Opposing teams entering our zone cause a Chinese fire drill more like a slapstick movie than a disciplined hockey team. Lets be honest, the players are trying, they are not on the same page. Can't argue the D needs more talent, but this disaster is on the coach. The D is the first order of business. Line management is a close second. Drury should be the chief scout. I think he has done an excellent job at the draft table. He has incredibly poor managerial skills. He is a clear example of getting promoted to the level of incompetence.

Rhet - that’s all true and I agree….BUT, I don’t see any players/leadership on this team that have the DNA of a Messier, Graves, or Leetch. My opinion of course, but just sayin

NYR fans need to get a grip. Is this season going the way we wanted/expected it to go? NO, of course not, but it's all happened before. In 92-93, we went 34-39-11 and missed the playoffs after winning the President's Trophy the prior season. In 94-95, we went 22-23-3 in a strike shortened season, after winning the President's trophy the prior season ... Those were teams that we had Messier, Leetch and Graves on them and we still underperformed. Maybe, just maybe, hockey is hard?

HOSPO - I hope you’re not cursing at me. GOODROW wasn’t traded and was overpaid the second the contract was signed. A fourth liner getting paid that much is tough for any team to round out the rest of the roster. TROUBA a leader? For his wife’s career, sure. For NYR? Not according to him. From his own lips - I chose my family. He checked out the second he chose his family over hockey. Regardless, he also was overpaid the second his contract was signed and add in he sucked at hockey for a while as well. In a cap world, you can’t overpay and under deliver. It’s death to an org. I’m not holding DRURY blameless, I think he sucks at most of his job. But, the players are pros, they gotta play. The effort by TROUBA this year was shameful. The effort by the core, and by dragging down the kids, is shameful.

Laviolette said the decision to scratch Kakko was about “putting fresh legs in the lineup.”...Good job FuckFace..You have your fat fucking fingerr on the pulse of the team....NOT!!!!......And Dummbfuck Drury, just go head and trade Kakkao and Miller for a few picks but hold on to those vets that have been givingn every ounce of their blood and sweat to turn this thing ar0oud like Fox, ZBad, Panrina, Kreider, Trocheck, Lindgren

ANDREI - I know the reality of the Cap in the NHL...BUt Drury has made bad move after bad move as it pertains to the nHL team for a window that is now probably shut..He blew it with his deals and inept handling of his TEAM over the lst 2 years...Guess that earns him a shot at the next window which MAY be open in 3 years...Fuck thaat,, I'll likely be dead or senile, well, more senile...

Hospo, that's called reality of NHL cap. Every cap team faces it and every team has the same answers. Again, it's a pure fantasy that other NHL teams have these unresolved depth of excellent talent just waiting to be called. Just like Rangers would be playing against called up AHL journeyman goaltender, or journeyman 30 year old d-man, or a winger. How many times we heard that team has to do cap gymnastics when injury's start piling up, or waiver claims teams do, cause their NHL roster player just got injured. Blues just made trade for corpses of Fowler, why? Cause they lost 2 d-man off their roster due to injuries. So Armstrong is a terrible GM, cause Blues have no depth on D? Every NHL is 2-3 players away from scrambling around looking to trade for a needed help. So that's that. Personally, I did not like trades at the 2023 deadline, and I did call Drury on them. I hated Kane's trade. Just like I could not stand Gallant and did not like how team was playing at the time to warrant major trades. But to say that this season is on Drury? Will agree to disagree.

ANDREI - We were playing Connor Fucking Mackey..Chad Worthless Ruwhede;l..Zac 98 poubd weakiling Jones...JOhnny Brodzinsky..with Jake Lesychysn in the Wings......WEll agree to disagree........and..."I'm sure Drury will address over time." Wht is your definition of "time"..5 Fucking years? Becasue he hasn't done it in 4 this time...But, I know, it's all ZSHIT, KREIDER and the 1-dimensional Panarina tht re the problem..Drury is God!

Hospo, o'key, Drury is terrible. Fine. There must be better GM's out here, right? Just want to understand, which cap team in NHL have so much depth just waiting in a wing, that you are referring to? Does LA have depth in centers in AHL just waiting to be called up? Maybe Tampa does? Maybe Toronto, or maybe Edmonton or Colorado has players just waiting to be recalled? It's a fantasy, man. It's not real. That's not how NHL team operate. Cap does not allow you to create unused depth. Every $ counts. Let me say this, my friend, if an NHL team has a NHL ready player, that NHL prospect will be playing on the NHL roster. Teams are desperate for a cheap $ players. They only sent down to AHL players that need more time in AHL. Rangers have 2 centers signed for 4 more years, and one for 2 more. That's DEPTH!! There are three more centers in AHL that are 20 years old and one that is 24 years old. That's DEPTH! Plus a very, very good center prospect Noah Laba in NCAA. Do they need time in AHL, sure. But that does not mean that somehow Drury is not stocking up the prospect pool. if anything, that's might be Drury's strongest sides as an GM, is how he was able to put together a very good team of scouts. Said it before, real weakness is on D, which I'm sure Drury will address over time. He already drafted EJ Emery in the 1st round last draft.

PJ - I mentioned the ZMOUSE ice time quite a few times..but, that side, we agree on everything else :)

No mention that Z had the least amount of time of the four centers…Less than Carrick and over six minutes less than Trocheck or Chytil… Laff had more time than any forward..As far as Drury goes he should be fired for giving up anything for a Ruhwedal alone…Laviolette will go and should but as long as the weasel remains at GM we are screwed…

s the game went on in the 3rd period and ZILCH hd the lest amount of ice time, I was wondering if the Rangers were trying to prove a point to him..like, DOn't wave your NMC and this is how you will be used......Silly me..Of course, Fat COuntry then desperately plays him insted of Cuylle or Berard for the last 2 minutes and 43.6 secs........And LAVIOLETTES handling of KAKKAO is just more bull shit that will fuck up the team

Andrei: If I remember correctly, you called Zbad & Kreider out last season and were dead on correct. I was in the camp that thought there was a magic bullet RW out there somewhere going to get Z & K to mesh with their new line-mate. I was wrong! Our bo Drury seemed to be of similar mindset because he went out and signed SMITH. Now I have nothing against SMITH and once we trade him for something, the conditional 2nd round 2027 pick and the 5th round pick for this upcoming draft will yield us something new. "BUT" the point is that DRURY gets paid the big bucks. HE should have known that there was NO RW out there that was going to make any more difference than what we already had on the roster to get Z & K to include the 3rd player on their line. "SO" Drury should have kept GOODROW and he and his assistants needed to get that right! GOODROW was an important part of the leadership on this team, and his utility up and down the lines, and his playoff experience were too important to lose. Again, Drury & Co has to get that right and they blew it. THEN, the only player that needed to go was TROUBA. .... IGOR needed to be signed, and he was.

Andrei I am not saying it's right but ....the players hate him I believe.... I am just a fan like you..we are all outside looking in

Andrei's - DRURY's incompetence and Laviolette's mind boggling handling of players has torn this team apart where nobody is playing good...nobody is playing hard more than 10 mins a game...everybody's heads are up their ass (including Panarina) and nobody gives a shit about defense (including Panarina)...When it's that systemic, it's bigger than the players....the same players that were as close as any team last year show not one thread of chemistry anywhere...Sorry, the Coach and GM need to go..

Andrei Drury is completely incompetent.....Smith nice job, Kane , nice job, ruhwehdel nice job, rosolovich,wennberg nice job yeah I want Drury to ....is Drury fired yet

DRURY last off season - Bonino, Pitlick, Nash, Gustaffson., QUick (his one good move)....DRURY last Deadline - Ruwhedel, Weinerberg, Roslovic.....DRrury this off season ..trades the well respected Goodrow, Mangles trade of the Captain Trouba, wastes draft picks on Piece of shit SMith, resigns Ruwhedel, this season...the ill conceived letter, the soap operaa trade of Trouba...and the great effect it has had on the team.....And that's not even considering the KANE fiasco The Tanking Tnk the yer before....ANd not one center outside of college in the orgniztion for depth..and nobody but Mancini who isn't even ready on D....Yeah, I want Drury building or rebuilding this team!

vcp, so it's now on Drury that he can't find a winger to play with Bromance? It's not on bromance butt lovers, but it's on GM to find a non-existent player? cause 20+ other players have failed, it's clearly a GM issue? As far as Drury not being able to make a trade. Trouba trade was a master class on how to trade a player, making $8 mil per and clearly overpaid with remaining time on the contract without giving up assets or picks. Normally teams give up at least a pair of 2nd round picks, often a 1st rounder. That's a hell of trade by Drury!!

Well sucked seeing that in person…Almost choked when I saw the lineup…We won’t do much with that D against anyone…JBRO on a line with Trocheck?…Laviolette needs to go…I believe Kreider knows his days are numbered…To me just depressing…I can’t even get mad….

vcp, common dude. Mutiny? Really? Is that what we are going with? Poor fucken player cause their feelings got hurt? It's called business. Every team in NHL does it every year. Tampa does it every year, but somehow their core is not striking. Vegas does it, but players feelings are not hurt there. Canes let it's core and sole players walk without any attempts to re-sign them, but remaining players are not mentally hurt. Let's stop with this nonsense. If Bryan Leetch can be traded on his birthday and somehow players still wants to play in NY, anyone can be traded . Let me let you on a little secret. Players on NYR knew that Goodrow would be gone. They all know when the team is against the cap and they know who on the roster most likely top be gone. Same Goodrow that's score 4 goals last season and who scored 2 goals so far. You don't think NYR players did not know that Trouba was next? Player that makes $8 mil and plays on the 3rd pair, on team that needs cap room to even re-sign it's own players, let alone getting roster help?

punch, why? Why does it mean that a complete rebuild is needed? Example, if Butbrothers are traded, you mean to tell me that for $15mil in cap, you can't find a pair of $4 mil 3rd line tough as nails players that play heavy game and a pair good d-man with size for around $3 mil each? Regardless it is via trade or via UFA route? Or if Feeses, JBlow, Smithy are gone, a better replacements can't be found to play on the 4th line? Team essentially needs a checking line and a 4th line. You have top 6 players in Trocheck, Panerin, Lafr, Kappo, Chytil and Cuylle. D core needs work, but clearing out Lindgren $5 mil helps to bring in couple mi-range vets to play with Miller, Fox and Jones. If Miller is a problem, he can be gone as well, but he is traded, he will bring back value in NHL talent. You don't need a trade everyone on the roster. That's said, problem will always be ZShit, but it's on Drury to make impossible, possible. So far he found ways to trade salaries of the player most though would be impossible to move due to their cap $ and NT clauses.

Andrei take it for what it's worth.this a a mutiny by most players for the Goodrow and trouba treatment plain and simple..as long as the core is here they not playing..... Drury can't make a trade to save his life.....hasn't found a winger for how many years since he threw buchy away.....

Not for nothing, but you do understand that throwing out the "all the garbage," even if you're able to arrange for that, automatically commits you to a five year re0build. At minimum. And thaat must include dreadful seasons to position yourself in the lottery merry-go-round. Sound familiar?

rf4l, I put plenty of blame on Lavi, and I absolutely want him gone, but at the same time, blame has to start and end with players. This why this core needs to be nuked and all the garbage needs to be taken out. Where I would start blaming Drury is, if nothing will be done with/to the core and similar roster is back next season. That's a chair re-arranging on Titanic and Drury would be owning it.

Just look and listen to this non leader…. https://youtu.be/AQcanHQ7Jmg?si=k23XOuVeMzviRdyi

Mf steps one and two are lardass and drury. Then let the new regime make the decisions. I’m willing to bet you would see the team come back together.

1000% disagree where the blame is for this shit show that are NYR now. For starters would like to hear what moves Drury could have done over the summer with no cap room. What salary should have came off and what player was available that would have maid this team a cap winner? Not trade Goodrow? No problem. No Carrick and no Smith, fine. Who would play on the wing with ButtBrothers? Can't be anyone on the roster since no one was able to play with them. Who? There was a room for 800K player and that's if JBro was waived. Now, Drury could have fired Lavi month ago. How that would have fixed whatever physical issue Fox is having that he literary went from Norris candidate to sub-par average d-man in NHL? Would a new coach had fixed what fuck is going on Lindgreen? That's a top pair on NYR. Take a pair off any NHL roster and let's see how many games that team would win? So Drury is to blame for that? Let's blame Drury for having Kreider's game gone off the cliff? Is that what we are doing? Or ZShit going from a very average season offensively, but a strong defensively, to a season where he is a liability on ice in matter of month??? Drury is to blame for that as well? I could see where you can put a huge blame on Lavi for his lineups, PP and playing time. That's where the team that have struggling players is clearly creating a divide in the locker-room over vets playing time and limited options for the kids. I'm all for firing Lavi. He absolutely deserves it. Sure, new voice could help. But how much? At what point, blame will go players that 100000% deserve the blame for their play, regardless who the coach or who the GM is? At what point questions start with "WTF is wrong with Kreider"" is that a back injury? If so, WTF is he doing playing? This is not playoffs, no need to be a hero. So it is either you are cleared to play by team's physician, or you are hurt and need to sit to get better. So if it is not a physical problem, then it must be his game and his motivation. That's on coach. If he can't motivate a player then that player needs to be in the press-box till the message is heard. If that does not help, trade is the next step. But you have to start with benching. if Kreider is out there playing 18 minutes a game and all he does is skating, it's not on Drury, that's on Lavi and Kreider himself. If Lindgren is sticking out the joint, but he is out there playing 20 minutes, that's once again on the coach and the player himself. If GM was fired every time his team has struggling players, there will be a new GM every few month. Why don't we see it? If this core is about to get the 4th coach in 4 years, maybe it's not just coaching or GM? Maybe problem is the fucken CORE???

Is Kakko gone because there were 5 others hat should have been benched before him. Next game play Mancini over Lindgren he is a dog

I turned the game off when it got to 3-0…and I very rarely ever do that but it’s been too much bear lately! But, I tell ya what…after coming here to The Wall to get an honest read on the how the remainder of the game went, it’s a good fucking thing I turned it off. Because if I would have seem Kreider & Zibanejad on the 6-on-5 while Cuylle sat, I’d probably be having to buy a new TV right about now because my foot might have gone through it! WTF is it with these hockey coaches and their bid damned predictability regarding vets? WTF have yiur vets done for you Laviolette,m you fucking idiot? GEEZUS!

Didn't watch the game, just caught up on the Wall-Paper. The Traderator is locked-n-loaded, Drury Needs to Go, "we" need to be in charge of the trading. The first one needing to go is Zibanejad. Might have to package him with another player to get a trade done, but my untouchable list is: Laffy, KaKKo, Panarin, Trochek, Cullye, Schneider, Mancini. I'd like to keep FOX, and at $4mill I'd keep K'Miller...... That means: Zbad, Kreider, Smith, Chytil???, Vesey, Edstrom, are all available as are: Lindgren, Jones... We may be able to retain Chytil, but I think he needs to be on the Wing.

Well a snoozefest and odd man rush extravaganza until the second half of the 3 rd period. There is zero defensive structure, and why they insist On having defensemen at the top of the crease constantly is beyond me. That was one weak ass line,up.

Better effort. Can’t believe Zbad was out there with empty net Mackey played better than Lindgren. Berard is a keeper bring up Othman and Syroka at least they would give a shit like Cuylle tonight.

Getting a coach and a gm is a process like grieving… lol…analyze this analyze that .

Stevie and others - I agree. Not having those 2 kids that scored out for the last shift was an abomination. Even if I thought the odds were lower, so what, THEY JUST FRIGGEN SCORED. And the messaging is priceless. Give them a shot! This is a shitshow. Blow it up.

my 6 at the end... Trochek ( fo's) Laff, Cuylle, Chytil, Berard and Fox... z/k sit on their assess and watch.. unf'in unbelievable that at least Cuylle was not out there

Let DD share the rope with lardass , they can hang themselves together. It’s not the players except for a few , but the coach is deaf dumb and blind, and so is his boss.

Hospo - trades of leaders? What trades? What leaders? IMO, DRURY hasn’t traded enough. Not sure what you are talking about.

Maybe John Davidson was right after all, there are no shortcuts to the Stanley Cup.

Sjw. I was thinking the same thing. Berard and Cuylle score. Goalie pulled and they're on the bench for Z and K. A microcosm of Lardiolette's coaching philosophy and exactly why he needs to go.

They didn't get one powerplay in the game. They didn't deserve any because they fucking sucked again.

Keep up the good work coach, hang yourself . Dd gave you the rope and you are using it.

Signs of life.... and finish with the kids that got u back in it .. sittin on the f'bench .. that in a nutshell speaks volumes of what is wrong.. .. Fox blocked shot and Trocheck passes the puck out of the zone.....

10 minutes of life iaagaist a team that got back to St. Louis about 4AM!!!.. The Coach and GM need to go..start with the clueless coach...TOMORROW!!!!!!!

Way to go coach. It’s better they lose because the coach insists on playing 6 guys for over 2 minutes to end the game and hopefully his tenure. Leave the 2 guys who scored to watch from the bench.

Geeat coaching. Sit the kids that got you back in it. Lets go back to zbad Asshole

Gld to see CUYLLE and BERARD rewarded for their strong play with placement at the start of the 6 on 5!! But nooooooo...ZBAD..and little commotion in front of the net... I'm so fucking done with that FAT FUCK

Lolol. Goalie pulled. Z and K out there. Of course. Chytil there cuz no P. Lololol.

Rhet. On Kreider. Don't buy it. Unless he's had back spasms in and off his entire career.

CUYLLE!!!..the only worhtwhile player every game all year..Can they ply 12 good minutes and get a point?

LIMBO - Ya know, it doesn't matter what DRURY thinks..it matters what he does..Just look what he has done the past two years...utter incompetence at the deadline, in FA, hndlling trades of leaders, and anything else....And if he doesn't/didn't think this team was a CUp winner after it made the ECFs last year, and I agree) why the fuck didn't he do anything besides resigning Ruwheded..trading for SMith and signing a Carrick ....all steps down from the previous year...DRURY s where all the problems start..so yeah, it will be entertainment in the next few months

Limbo he has messed up a good regular season team that makes the playoffs. He has no real drive to win the cup.

Stevie - I can’t get inside DRURY’s head. But if I were to guess, pure guess mind you - he believes that this was/is a pretty good reg season team. And I think most would agree with him. But, he more importantly thinks this team isn’t winning a cup with these vets. To me, it’s more than obvious that he thinks this. Regardless, I am infinitely curious how he handles this. Like JFC posted, this is tragi-comedy stuff. Pure high drama. Yeah…the hockey sucks. But, for good ole entertainment, we’re all getting our money’s worth, lol.

Buffalo with 10 game losing streak. I wonder how the rangers could get thompson and greenway.

So this basically same team got over 100 points the last 3 seasons with 2 different coaches and now they need to be traded. Makes sense with little logic. That’s because drury wants to stick with his coach and blame his team.

KIS - LAVI needs to be gone tomorrow..as does DRURY, but that won't happen...but axeing Laviolette is the logicl next step...No confidence that DRURY will make a single good deal especially after the value of all the players are plummetting..

Hah. for the first time all year I listened to Smug Douche Valliquette..Gotta say, he was spot on (without laying blme) but i was laughing my ass off because he was also describing not only how bad they re playing but also the type of game this years Rangers only likes to play..fun play, skating, no checking, no grinding......All goes back to the coach and GM for 18 players playing the same way THIS YEAR

No matter how you look at it, lavi needs to be gone. Once he is gone then start to move players. Anybody else notice , kreider doesnt see every player off the ice. Now ots trochek

JFC -Yeah, that's part of it, I agree..The leadership is non-existent or incapble for This team which is in a shitty , shitty place... but it's up to the GM and coach to know their team instead of destroying it with their moves, mchintions nd management...ANd while your narrative might work on on the core leaders, what is the reason for LAFFY playing like shit? for SCHNEIDER? For LINDGREn? For Cuylle, Chytl, Kakkao playing worse,,,,Fuck, for 6 others...?

LOL. DRURY may get the axe from this. Icing a team with 4 AHLers on the back line is reason enough. But, it didn’t start tonight. We can all thank him for at least accomplishing this much - he gave these morons just enough rope to hang themselves. This core is pure baby poo. They were never winning a cup. This is now a metaphysical certitude. And isn’t that the point of all of this? Trade them all. Every single one. Now. Why LINDGREN is still here is a crime against NYR fans everywhere.

On the bright side, ZUSELESS with the least amount of ice time of any Ranger..but even tht doesn't help!

Here’s the problem…Rangers leadership is a bunch of fucking pussies…all too sensitive, too worried about PERSONAL GRIPES instead of manning up, putting their head down and WORKING THROUGH IT! Zibanejad is probably worried about Kreider getting traded…how could Drury think of such a thing, after all the years the Bromance Bros have been hugging each other and ignoring their right wing while they play their own brand of hockey! And Fox….oh. poor Foxy…how could Drury even THINK about trading Lindy? They’ve been best friends and room mates since their teens. So what if Lindy is coming up on UFA status? You can’t trade Foxy’s best bud! How can Fox be expected to give 100% when he’s so worried about his friend? We all need to understand how HURT the Rangers are by mean old autistic Chris Drury, the man with no feelings! It’s not fair to millionaire players to not make them as COMFORTABLE as possible so they can slowly take their time coming to grips with the horrible slings and arrows of such a difficult life! For fucks sake!

Yeah, Sam and Joe, blame every single player but not what that Fat Bastrd behind the bench and Nero Drury the GM have done to the entire team

Blues casters commenting on the sloppiness of the Rangers.. just giving the puck away ..at will

Ya think Joe? Yes, they never quit last year, never..but that was before Drury and Laviolette took an axe to the team's psyche and the locker room

Did you see LAFFY raise his arms like "WTF"?? Again, nobody is thinking..nobody is playing on a team..utter bullshit

Quick is no Shesterkin. He needed to play the shooter on that play and instead he stayed deep in the crease…against a known sniper. Everything that can go wrong is going wrong.

Wht the fuck was JONES doing there? They don't care..They don't think..they don't try....as bad s it gets...BITH DRURY and LAVIOLETTE should be gone between periods....but guess we'll wait until Lviolette is fired tomorrow.....ANd I guess the team loved the message sent to KAKKAO also...

But glad the Rangers, as lead by ZFLOAT and Kreider, are playing mad nd intense!!! Nobody freaking cares!

Every single player, including my faves like SCHNEIDER, ar plaaying like shit..Thank You Drury and Big Counrty! How many AHLers do we have playing on the ice?? Brodz, Mackey, Ruwshedel,Edstrom, Berard?

My god I want Drury gone! They have single-handedly ruined the Rangers because any young player has declined also! By allowing your veterans to stay in the lineup and continuously under perform, you’re basically saying it’s OK. And screwing up not trading Trouba an equally disastrous extent Lindgren This summer has created a massive hole in defense.

And LINDGREN, with his mind in the clouds like every Rannger, has degraded to an AHL player...

CUYLLE was and is more than just a 3rd liner..But What Drury and Laviolette have done to the team and the lines have degraded every single player...Holy Fucking shit..Edstrom just drove to the net for the first time in 13 games!!

Chytil’s big weakness is his tunnel vision…it keeps him from seeing open linemates and oppo players coming to smash him

I cant believe how bad some of these players are. Mackey and ruhedal are horrible. Berard and jones sorry just to small. Cullye is a hard worker but 3rd line player. Maybe second at best. Sitting Kakko os fucking stupid and im not a kakko fan. As far as chytil trade his ass now. He skates well but whst else. This team went from good to shit over night. What a shame

Not watching, but you know I had to peek at the score. What a shock, we're losing.

wow, see Ramsey and Fat Country have installed the Keystone Kop strategy for defense in the 2nd period

In any event, the treatment of KAKKAO or the KAKKAO assett is beyond criminal...He gets benched for things the core vets and many other young vets have been doing all year? Oh, my bad, Meeeka the Meek nd others are too sensitive..but not Kakkao?

Ranger47 - Spot on....TRying to choke down the bile and venom and not post..I am so fucking done with the laughingstock DRURY and LAVIOLETTE have turned the Rangers into...ANd so good for BUCH..One of DRURY's early signture moves, right?

Wow - so KK gets the shaft again. Shows you the size of Drury and Fat asses balls. I can count on two hands the # of players that need to be healthy scratched. Like holy crap, DD trading KK? If it’s too Dallas, or really anybody I’m nervous as fuck. You know he’s going to get bent over. Anything less than a young potential top 6 C with similar stats coming back would be a major loss. Who’s as nervous as me?? Can’t we scratch DD and fat ass?

You have to wonder what might have been the last 3 seasons if we never traded Buchnevich for nothing.

Fuck you Sam.."It's good to see Chad in the lieup.."...Bwahaa......From the best line in hockey for the first month in the season to reducing KAKKAO's value to that of a 5th round draft pick....gotta love it

Only players Dipshit Drury will deal, and of course at their lowest value, will be KAKKAO and MILLER

KAKKAO benched..DRURY and Laviolette continue to byrn this thing to the ground..Yet ZSHU, LAFFY, KREIDER, and others never benched? And an NHL tem with a piece of shit like Chad RUWHEDEL and Connor Mackey in the line up? And the lines formed by throwing shit agasint the Wall....Even if they win..as bad as it gets

ShoNuff: We feel our pain brother, but I don't want to trade KaKKo or Miller. Millers next contract might only be a 2 year Bridge deal. He's not worth more than approx $4Mill at this point in time, let him prove otherwise. KaKKo is literally a beast and will be a Top 6 for us, and dare I say a future leader on this team. all jmo naturall

Betting on blues all the way.....I want us to crash and burn otherwise Drury and lavy stay

That said, I’m happy to move KK, or ANY player for an upgrade. We get a C at about the same stats, age, skill, size, potential…I’ll drive KK to the airport.

drury has to get fired (wont happen) and need to replace our prancers and core ...good luck with both....

SHO - I completely get being frustrated that KK is not more than he is. But, unless he asks for it, I’m not trading him…yet. TBH - right now, he is probably an above avg 3rd liner. I think he could also be an effective PKer. As long as he isn’t overpaid, I’m keeping him. Now, he goes to the top line and the top PP and STILL has 3rd-line like O…I’m cutting bait.

The rest we can’t do anything about . Kreider Z and Panarin bought Laff and Kakko time as well as Miller . Nope

We needed one perennial all star and one borderline between Laff and Kakko and Miller to be top pair . Bye bye

Just get Miller and Kakko the fuck out of here . The franchise was built on giving them years to develop into all stars or we were fucked . Well…

There's no reason to fire Lavy or Drury "IF" they get their heads on straight. The issue is, "are the coachable?"

Gallant's still under contract, why don't they just bring him back? Nothing's going to change unless they fire or replace Drury. I'm sure whomever Dolan would replace him with would be ultimately worse.

"Same Ol rat in a drain ditch, caught on a limb, you know better but I know him" .......... :-)

Rangers in 1991-92: 50-25-5 (105 points) 1st in Patrick Division and 1st overall (Messier's first season and a Presidents Trophy). Rangers in 1992-93: 34-39-11 (79 points) 6th in Patrick Division and 19th overall (miss the playoffs). We all know what happened the next year. Anyway, I've racked my brain trying to remember what the hell happened in 92-93 and all I can recall is that Mess began feuding with Roger Neilson, who ended up getting fired and Leetch infamously broke his ankle after a night on the town. I'm not seeing any parallels as I desperately search for an explanation as to how the hell we find ourselves in this shithole of a situation.

RF4L - you are making my point. Not too long ago, a series of corps (G+W, Paramount, etc.) owed the Garden and NYR. What happened? What were the decisions? What were the results? Same old, same old. We talk about the core…as in the players. Well, IMWO, there is a more meaningful core at work here…that is deeper, foundational, and, it seems…eternal, lol. Yeesh, this stuff has me sounding certifiably Lovecraftian, haha. "The Thing cannot be described—there is no language for such abysms of shrieking and immemorial lunacy, such eldritch contradictions of all matter, force, and cosmic order.“ Yup, there you have it - NYR personified. The most ancient and unimaginable. Just gazing upon it leads to madness. I think many here can attest, lol.

JFC - Hers's the thing..The stink of the core is a given right now...but even the kids aren't performing..LAFFY's all around game is shit...The Kid Line's play has also taken a turn for the worse..Jones/Boom Boom were abymsmaal...EDSTROM does nothign...The entire team is in a meltdown and disarray.....Mentally, they are not trying or executing..not even thinking about being a team...This is all DRURY's creation for the reson you nd I and others have mentioned...made 100X worse byy Laviolettes outdated approach and handling of players......The players can not dig out of this in the current environment..Unfortunately, I don't think that is just Laviolette..I think there is more "hate" agaisnt DRury....So yeah, if neither of those two go, 1 or 2 trades of KAKKAO or MILLER won't help...half the team has to go...and that really can't be done mid season...So, first action was to try and slog through it...FAIL...next action is to axe the GM and/or coach with some fine tuning trades...That's not done or FAILS yep...blow up the entire team...Hope IGOR loves that!

Does Drury let this fester until the Christmas break before throwing Lavy under the bus? They will be lucky to eke out one win against Nashville in this run of games.

A softer approach of bringing in the Cavalry: Bring in: BUF Samuelsson, NSH Lauzon, CBJ OLIVIER, SJS KUNIN, WPG KUPARI, possibly SEA Tanev.... These (fingers crossed) should not be overly difficult targets to attain. (IMO-naturally) Olivier, Kunin, Kupari are all RHS Forwards and a great age to meld with the upcoming core. Samuelsson & Lauzon are both LHS-D. IF Lauzon is unattainable, we can find someone else not named Zadorov if trading with BOS is too problematic. to be continued....

JFC. Yep. Said it a few days ago albeit differently: Time to let the young core take over the leadership of the team. If it meand trading Kreider do it. If it means pushing Z down the lineup (if he refuses to waive his NMC) do it.

And here’s why I think the two navel-gazers….Kreider & Zibanebum…are cracking: remember during the off-season when Trouba stated something along the lines of, “we all know that this is the last season that this core will be together.” Those 2 introspective, intellectual, sensitive navel-gazers are feeling overwhelming pressure and they can’t handle it. They are now in the process of MOURNING their lost glory years and the worse the teams performs, the more they feel the end coming….and the more they feel the end coming, the worse they play and the less their words hold sincerity in the locker room. And yeah, I don’t include Panarin In the “common denominator” theory for one simple reason…he’s not a LEADER and he never has been. He doesn’t speak English well enough to be effective at making speeches and he depends on his stats to be his leadership.

Limbo. One big difference between the 2 organizations is ownership. The Leafs are corporately owned with no single person I charge. Dolans on the other hand is or can be omnipotent. It's him for example who fired JD and Gorton. Then he had a refactoring president/GM in waiting (or thought he did). Who's in place now internally who would step in? Anyone? Ryan Martin? I've no idea. But if there's no one it means Dolans has to go outside the organization. Does he have the wherewithal to do so? Maybe he reaches out to Nob fir Life again for guidance? Ugh. Does he know and like Brian Burke? I've mentioned him previously. I'm not a fan but I'd bet he'd be all in if asked. At least Burke has the balls to make moves and not insignificant ones either. We shall see but staying the course likely means no PO revenue for Dolans and that can't be sitting well with him.

So now Rangers fans are gonna pretend that this core…this “leadership” group… disappear under Gorton & JD? This is a manifestation of Chris Drury’s making? Drury’s biggest mistake was giving Mika “The Meek” Zibanebum a no trade clause! Now, the only way to get rid of him is to create a HUGE controversy and likely getting less value if they manage to get rid of him. The only players who need to take the fall for this situation are the “common denominator” players…those whose careers were in full swing under Gorton, JD & Drury. We can argue all day and night if ridding the team of Kreider & Zibanejad will “solve” the issues this team is having but there is nothing else to point to…unless your contention is that every fucking coach we hire is trash! C’mon now….this shit makes no sense and we all know that! How can they go from what they were doing last season, to what we see now? Laviolette wears out his welcome? HOW? Explain to me how the best line in the NHL last season has dropped its level and is having a harder time scoring. What did Laviolette do to cause that? And think about Cuylle-Chytil-Kakko…why are they thriving? Is Laviolette coaching in 2 different practice rinks….one with Cuylle-Chytil-Kakko and the other with everyone else? Why would some players THRIVE while others don’t? Did you guys see that PP1 shit yesterday when the usual lackadaisically came back to regroup while down 5-1? It’s because Laviolette is doing something wrong? I’m at a point when I’m ready to blow this shit up and by blow up, I mean get rid of Kreider & Zibanejad. They are the common denominators through these coaches and the pattern we are seeing now keeps repeating over & over & over again! It’s NOT A COINCIDENCE! I don’t care if it means we barely make the playoffs or don’t make it at all. The Kreider-Zibanejad era…the Bromance Bros. Era…should be OVER! We’re all tired of seeing it, aren’t we? Success followed by DISINTEREST! No one on the team will challenge their leadership,or lack thereof so they all start playing to the level of their “leaders.” Are they wrong to do that? Yeah but it doesn’t matter why people follow their leaders down the wrong path….why a malaise develops…all that matters is that it does. Management can’t keep doing this dance…it’s time to change partners. New voices aren’t able to emerge until thr old, tired voices are silenced and GONE!

The time has passed for somebody in this orgnization to make a move to try and save the season...I have been pretty clear where i think the blame lays (Drury then Laviolette)..I don't expect a move today..but if you put a 2nd loss against the Blues tonight..in front of upcoming road games against desperate Nshville squad, Dallas, NJ and Carolina...well...the axe or axes have to fall tomorrow...But, leav e it to the Rangers to win tonight like their great game agsinst Buffalao...

Welp, the drama in NYR land continues. I’m bored talking about this core. That they have rolled over like insecure tweens tells me all I need to know. They will be gone soon enough. And yeah, can the coach, can the GM, can the owner. Here’s what I find interesting - the continuum of organizational behavior that transcends management, owners, and even time. Just look at the last signing of IGOR. It’s the latest decision that will doom this team for mediocrity for the life of its effect. How many dozens of decisions have we seen over the past 50 some odd years that are cut from exactly the same cloth, and will yield the same exact results, but oddly enough, done under vastly different circumstances and by different people and in different eras? It’s quite stunning in it’s consistency. The only other team that I see that has a similar DNA and similar results - our doppelgänger from the North - TML. Too big to fail and too big to succeed? Not sure we will ever know. Because, the simple truth….these orgs can’t change. Success was never the goal. They have achieved the perfect evolutionary step for survival. That is all they ever wanted.

ZBAD will never be aggressive.....it's that simple.heck even panarin at 170 is more aggressive..JD must be laughing along with Gorton, espo, Neil Smith, and all the others in heaven..hey it's more important to have the circus then a game 7 in our building..this joke of a franchise that we all follow religiously..we are paid back with their backs turned.

Columbus: Mathieu OLIVIER (Big thick RHS RW kid who will drop the mits) https://www.hockey-reference.com/players/o/olivima01.html

Wallsters, "The Traderator is ready when you are, unfortunately, the current core forced our hands out of the 'fine-tuning' stage and into a partial rebuild. Goodbye Meak-ahh, should have played a more 'abrasive brand of hockey,' because your next team isn't going to tolerate it.

Dolan can read and now sees we are 21st place, the Knicks are pretty good so that gives Drury somewhere to hide but the time is coming soon when Dolan will force Drury to do whatever it takes to make the playoffs. That’s scary. Drury might do something more inconceivably stupid than we could even imagine

Even Brooks doesn't take Baby DRUEY to task for his incompetence the past 2 years in FA and at the Deadline and in filling glaring roster holes in the organization....and especially his major role in ripping this team apart from the inside over the past year with his inept handlings

Add me to the list of the disgruntled. I have followed tis team with a passion for more than fifty years and I can not remember it being this bad. The house has caved in from top to bottom.

He can’t answer the question…. https://youtu.be/BVA7y0SH5b4?si=wXs0Q8fcq-GcEkmg

Rangers now sit 21st overall and get this: They are 6 points out of 29th overall. Yowsa!!

Lb a wall favorite…” The hierarchy has no stomach to fire Laviolette after firing Gerard Gallant two years ago and David Quinn four years ago. There is no stomach to affix the blame on yet another coach instead of taking care of the coach-averse core. But the season is slipping away. The leadership group has crawled into a shell. There is something lacking in the room, there is something lost in translation during the jaunt down the tunnel to take the ice. “…. I disagree with lb on them being coach averse. But if he is right about drury sticking with his coach, then he will rearrange the chairs on his version of the titanic. He’s the captain of the sinking ship that he keeps on course to hit the iceberg straight on. Only Dolan can fix this. The team has quit on both the no real solutions coach and the threatening empty vest gm. That’s called a leadership problem. From Dairy Queen to gallant to lardass there is one common denominator, captain drury who’s going Christmas shopping and then home for the holidays. Wednesday at midnight is the holiday no trade freeze. Which more than likely means that the same cast of characters will be here on January 2, 2025.

Man, I paid $700 for center ice seats to see these bums in Dallas on Friday. I’d rather stay home than drive 3 hours to see this shit in person. Sigh

There are rumors out there that Lou Lam could be in trouble with the NYI. Apparently, he also doesn't see eye to eye with Patrick Roy..... ALSO: In case you missed it, the NYI finally waived Oliver Wahlstrom and he was claimed by the Bruins.... He is now on the clock with BOS. Let's see how long before he get's waived again.

Elliotte Friedman reveals why J.T. Miller left: Frustrations boiled over with certain teammates.... https://www.yardbarker.com/nhl/articles/elliotte_friedman_reveals_why_jt_miller_left_frustrations_boiled_over_with_certain_teammates/s1_17459_41403457

https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/new-york-rangers/game-day/the-rangers-are-spiraling-out-of-control-and-have-no-answers

NYStranger - Two different arguements...A team will only have a chance to compete if it is together and willing to fight to their fullest to win...This Ranger team does not have one iota of that in them ..Last years Ranger Team did......But it didn't have the horses or physicality to beat FLA, though i think they could have beat anybody else LAST YEAR...This year they don't hve the horses, physicality plus the chemistry and effort they had last year..If they had the Latter, they could compete and maybe add the former during the year..but that ship has sailed

MF - I don't give a hoot about Fowler..Rangers need a steady physical defensive D-man right now not somebody like him..exactly why DRURY tried to get Fowler in the Troubs trade...God, Drury is an incompetent asshat...

I know the feeling..I dumped the Mets, giants, rangers maybe next 50 years worth of 1 cup pretty gross.now this idiot Dolan, idiot Drury....

Vcp. Exactly. It's rather depressing. Next GM move could be the end of my interest...

Rf4l well then we have more fun ahead of us. Neil Smith....Mike Keenan lololol.....no idea....his assistant from Detroit.....Dolan behind the bench lololol

"E" The hits will keep on coming in Las Vegas. The Golden Knights have locked up punishing fourth-liner Keegan Kolesar, signing him to a three-year, $7.5M extension ($2.5M AAV). -- https://www.nhltraderumors.me/2024/12/golden-knights-lock-up-kolesar-with.html

Cam Fowler: (He's signed at a $4mill cap hit this season & next) https://www.hockey-reference.com/players/f/fowleca01.html

IIRC, Cam FOWLER is a LHS D'man. PJ, enjoy the game. -- St. Louis Blues President of Hockey Operations and General Manager Doug Armstrong announced today the team has acquired defenseman Cam Fowler and a fourth-round pick in 2027 from the Anaheim Ducks in exchange for defenseman Jeremie Biakabutuka and a second-round pick in 2027. -- https://www.nhl.com/blues/news/blues-acquire-fowler-in-trade-with-anaheim

Hospo, fair enough. But thee are those you look at last season and two season before that like some sort of measuring stick that the current team could match and beat. I just did not see enough from this group - the core especially - to believe they could somehow up their collective games to take the next step. That, and just the experience of being a long time Rangers fan. This organization has never been able to progress in any sort of predictable manner. Every year seems like a total crap shoot.

Vcp. I think Drury cares. He's simply incompetent. The Buchnevich trade was the start. The Copp deal confirmed it for me. He needs to go. The ultimate problem? Dolans. Who's he gonna replace Drury with? Brian Burke??

Look, I know the Stanley Cup is the ultimate goal. But what is pissing me off is the damn lack of fun it is watching this team right now. The last several years, they had bad stretches, but for the most part the team outperformed my expectations. I looked forward to watching this team. Even the first few games this year, watching the goalies steal games, watching Bread score ridiculous goals, the new kid line. It all just went away and it’s bumming me out. Something rotten in Denmark for sure, but this is beyond the pale!

https://www.prohockeyrumors.com/2024/12/bruins-claim-oliver-wahlstrom-off-waivers-from-islanders.html

NYStranger - BY close, I meant a close knit team that never quit on each other. They never did. They always came back. They were a TEAM! This year there is No team, no resolve, no chemistry, nothing...That's what i am referring too... No, they weren't built to beat FLA last year and that didn't change this year (and includes Wash and NJ now) but that's another matter compared to the total clusterfuck the team has become due to Drury and Laviolette

Oh and forgot how Lardy had to change his ways and stop relying on the same PP unit to save his bacon every game. Bench management, defensive system, etc. it is like no coach can control these players? They all say the same thing BS lip service crap in the pressers, but nothing changes.

Hospo, I get how the drop off from what we saw last year is precipitous, I don’t share the view that the team was THAT close. Or maybe a better way to put it, one seasons success does not mean a thing for the next season. That team played way above expected wins - if you believe the advanced stats. They had a great run, but expecting more out of the same group with only minor alterations was not logical. They obviously needed an infusion of PO style supporting players to balance out the fancy pants, to have any chance of equaling last season and then getting through to the finals, etc. BUT Drury did the exact opposite. He traded one of the best PO performers on the team in Goodrow, He sabotaged Troubas season, He added another skill guy to appease the Bromance, and really only promoted the Pre-season all-star Edstrom for a regular spot. Every move was at best sideways. All, I am guessing, so Drury could sign Shesterkin to the biggest and probably stupidest contract extension for a goal tender ever. So yeah they were two wins away from the Cup Finals, but really still very far away from winning a Stanley Cup. Now after this debacle has unfolded most likely as far away as we were before ‘the letter’.

Fire Drury, bench Zibanejad for life, send Lindgren to the ECHL, fill the roster with goons and make it entertaining at least

CM - I also had hopes they could somehow pull through this but it's too fucked up, too insidious to the entire team, locker room and nd the entire NHL part of the organization from the head down..oh and i just got a big laugh hearing Laviolette talk about how bad the Rangers were today after being soo good on Wednesday agaisnt Buffalo...What??? God this team is beyond repair

HOSPO- fair enough. Obviously this is a disaster. I’m ever the optimist so I’m going to hope they turn things around! lol, but I wouldn’t bet on it or hold my breath or anything! I’m going to the Dallas game next Friday, so thinking I’m going to get to see this crap in person. I’m thinking of cancelling trip to Utah in January. Was excited to go, but now it’s looking like throwing money away, missing work and sour my mood!

Oh and on HNIC, Elliot FRAUDMAN mentions how bad it is in NY and that DRury is open to trading KREIDER and listening on anybbody and anything but mentions the NMCs....So, my guess, DRURY is probably only open to moving KAKKAO and MILLER....which are mistakes in my book...when what is needed is a much bigger, bigger move (ZFLOAT? PANARINA?)..but the sacrifice of Big Country might have to suffice first..after the loss to the BLUES tomorrow night.....

CM - Thanks my man..MOstly old news...but.... totally misfiring (or afraid to say it) big time on number 1 and leaving out a biggie IMWO ..Anyways, yes, 6 and 7 are keys to this clusterfuck and why they don't play as a team or play fast or play tough...but Back to 1) ..the problem isn't that DRURY didn't address the personell problems early enough..the problem is that DRURY (and Lviolette to a lesser degree) have created the personnel problems over the last year and sunk the team......This team was as close as it could be last spring, never quit, always playing for each other..and it barely changed..DRURY's machinations threw a bomb into the locker room and it's a team that is totally fucked in the head from him and Laviolettes preferred treatment..Vince won't mention DRURY's role in this not the complete incompetence DRURY has shown in the total lack of Center and defense depth and in playable toughness...why i don't read him

HOSPO- he’s been critical of the team for a while. I like his stuff. I think he summarized things well and the quotes were interesting. I don’t buy that they don’t know what’s going on, but they aren’t saying it. Perplexing.

Here’s his take on social media. He’s not wrong: 1. GM should have addressed personnel problems sooner 2. D-men don’t move pucks well, skate well or defend particularly well 3. Mika has fallen off a cliff and Kreider is MIA at 5v5, making that line a non-factor 4. Forwards don’t forecheck or backcheck with any consistency 5. Team isn’t particularly fast or physical 6. Team has not responded well to memo and/or trade rumors 7. Coach has been stubborn with vets, especially D pairs That’s just off the top of my head. Most of it relates back to No. 1.

Vince with a good summary of the current vibe: https://www.lohud.com/story/sports/nhl/rangers/2024/12/14/postgame-takeaways-ny-rangers-are-officially-a-mess-nhl/76960173007/

irawinw - you got me by about 3 years, but we feel thee same..Remember when Emile Francis put the entire team on waivers...Except for lie 4 players, not a bad idea now...OTOH, it's DRURY and LAVIOLETTE that need to be on waivers...God they have FUBARed this team!

I’ve been a Rangers fan since 1962 and post to this wall every once in a blue moon. To me, this is not a team; rather, it is a “collection” of rudderless players (to call some of them players is something of a reach).

Hospo= yup we unfortunately agree this team is done . ..and the kids will catch it

some one here lives in Houston I believe.... I am there now.... what's the best tex mex to eat

fuggg... you know there is Mutiny on the bounty when even topvoski is chiming in with his wisdom...Start throwing shit overboard fellas.... this ship is sinking. fast

And as a sign of how poorly coached this team is right now and how the players don't give a flying fuck at a rolling doughnut and have flat out quit...is that in 3 of the last 4 games agaisnt a cupcake schedule the Rangers have given up 32 SOG....OTOH, That defensive machine of the DEVILS has given up less than 18 SOG in the last 4 games gainst pretty much the same opponents

Squirrel does his best NYR impression: turn on the volume: www.facebook.com/reel/228115961765333

I'm a masochist (as we all are), the first period live wasn't enough of for me, I had to just watch the rest of the game recorded..As expected, the disgrace and the embarrassment continued..I reiterate...Dumbass Dickweed Drury and Fat Country have destroyed this team for this year and years to follow...Drury has torn the team down from the inside the last two years and Laviolette has zero clue how to get anything form any player..ALL are playing as bad as possible......Obviouslly, DRURY doesn't go until SATHER speaks up or they miss the POs...so Laviolette needs to go today..But I'm not sure anybody can save this team with Drury in control., Then there is the players...You know what the worst part is? The Kids...Look, we all know ZBAD is an apathetic prancer who is inept at ES and KREIDER has seemed to quit and not care..and the pirouetting Panarin only wants to be pretty..Fox is a pussy..and LIndgren is decomposing....But the toll this is talking on the kids.....LAFFY is as bad as ever,,,The kid defensiv pair blows..EDSTROM is absolutley worthless....and all of the kid line have even been infected and their once great play is just a faint memory....THe effect on the kids is why all of the GM, coach and vet core have to go..Start wherever you want..of course, the coach is the easiest one to start since Dumbfuck Drury is in self preservation mode and nobody will touch the vets

“Ryan Lindgren was as frustrated as I've seen him after the game. "It's getting outworked, out-competed, losing those 50-50 battles. That can't happen. Turnovers, mistakes, those are going to happen inside a game. Those you can live with. But when it comes down to a 50-50 puck, you're competing against someone else. You’ve got to come away with those, and we're not right now. We’re too easy to play against, and we’ve got to be a hell of a lot better."

Wonder how DOLAN is going to respond when Drury's Rangers don't make the playoffs? The playoff money usually determines whether the team turns a profit or not and Dolan does have people he accounts to. This Ranger Team Sux

We're becoming the team that strikes fear into the league. Nobody wants to be the team to lose to us.

Top. Not sure what sites you're perusing but all of Fox K and Z are getting ripped here. I'm a Jones supporter FWIW but he was horrid today. Kept forcing plays that weren't there and turning over the puck. Of course he wasn't alone. Panarin did it a lot too.

Enough of baseball talk I want to hear only hockey.. Don't give a crap about Yankees.. this is a hockey place where we can cry and cry and nothing will change but it's our place to cry

It is amazing to hear a lot of you badmouth Jones. The kid made one blatant mistake since he started playing regularly and you all jump on him. When he does goofy shit because he doesnt try hard I will agree. But, a lot of players get a free ride for much weaker effort than Jones. Fox is slower that most guys in my beer league, Kreider dosent give a damn, Zbad lost all his confidence etc.

Punch I feel you are on the money. Might not be all of it but it plays a huge part IMO. If I as a fan felt they didn’t improve and even got a bit worse then sure as shit the players know it.

For the zillionth time, Drury must go (since the coach is basically gone other than showing up so the payments don't stop). This team played its heart out (and sacrificed its health--as all hockey players do) last year and just couldn't get over the hump. Again. Not only did Drury do nothing to improve their chances at a Cup as the team ages out of its prime, he DIMINISHED it with the shenanigans he played regarding his captain and another heart and soul player (Goody). And the team quit on him, because he quit on them. Yes, they are professionals-- vastly underpaid professionals by the standards of any other sport. But they are human. You don't risk your health to justify obscene ticket prices in a hard cap league that artificially devalues your worth, you do it for a chance to put your name on the Cup. Immortality is a motivator. Drury took that away from them. Now the team is taking away his job from him. I really think it is that simple, even on a subconscious level. No team free-falls like this without a huge psychological element to their collapse.

PJ. Agreed in Drury. He needs to find a coach willing to decide who plays where and when based on merit. That Z and K keep getting 1st PP and PK duty during this extended fiasco is unjustifiable AFAIC. Lardiolette won't respond find a coach who will (and back that coach). If Drury should get the boot...

Draft this kid: http://www.mynhldraft.com/2025-nhl-draft/player-profiles/Roger-McQueen

I am going to tomorrow’s game with my son in law and grandson…Both Blues fans…Should be fun….LOL

RF…I agree he hasn’t made the adjustments he should…I also hold players accountable first…I believe he will go and the next coach will fail to if Drury isn’t supporting holding players accountable…

MF.... In regard to the NYY(because who wants to talk about the NYR right now?): I've heard Bregman before but then we got cold on him. We also got cold on Walker because there were teams allegedly offering a 4th year and we wouldn't go that far....Bellinger is still in play but the NYY's got cold feet on the deal because they want the Cubs to pick up $10 Mil of his contract and the Cubs refused. We'll see how that goes.... The most recent rumor I saw was the NYY's being hot after Santander, but that has also cooled off. They're likely using some of these guys as leverage against other players. Anyway, stay tuned.

What I saw today is a team that’s quit. And usually a coach pays for that even if it’s not his fault. 3-friggin coaches and all of them this team killed. At some point it’s the team. I don’t think it’s a panic but the ones who could pay the price the most are probably not the guys that should pay the price for this. I went to a kings vs. Devils game. The next day the Devils fired their coach. Wonder if the Kings did the same to Laviolette

PJ. I don't. Why? Because he's refusing to make any roster adjustments that might upset the veterans. It's gutless and is enabling the mess. I sure hope Drury is feeling the pressure even more.

Been around long enough... not even close to being a PO team right now.. so my emotional investment is zero .. until they start playing the right way .. and if it doesn't happen at all this year .. then so be it.. ain't losing sleep over this mess..

Laviolette has no answer…Almost felt bad for him in postgame…He won’t survive road trip in my opinion…

https://nypost.com/2024/12/14/sports/rangers-igor-shesterkin-pulled-after-five-goal-start-vs-kings/

Andrei- I guess, but I still felt like they played a little stronger defensively.

9 losses at home? 9 games giving up 5 or more goals. Has the dust settled for drury between his ears?

No trade can help this team. Players are regressing. Drury needs to get behind the bench but doesn’t have the guts.

What the team needs is a real good house cleaning and the highest possible lottery pick. 2025 is a bad draft, but there are some good players in the top 5.

Laviolette's 2nd season is looking like GG's 2nd season. If that's the case we're better off missing the playoffs than making them. That series against the Debbies still pisses me off!

CM, last season Fox had a Norris like season, Panerin had an MVP season, Lafr had a very good season, Trocheck had his best season. Add great PP and great goaltending, and a team won a lot of games. But defensively, they were giving away odd man rushes, breakaways. They just had a lot of leads, on a back of the great PP and the 1st line. Leads would force other team to play catch up, opening themselves for more goals against.

You know, I’ve always been supportive of Lav behind the bench but after watching him throw out the same crew for that last PP was just throwing salt into the wound . Their best line is sitting on the bench , and they are 3 kids that would love is be out there instead of those other assholes

The NYR's need to make a trade and bring someone in who isn't infected. Give the team a boost. Something.

I just don't remember them being this poor defensively last season. I know they won games they didn't deserve to based on goaltending and special teams but their structure wasn't this bad.

Said it before, as a coach you have the last change. Why this fucken coach insist on starting PP1 that will play against PK1 of the opposite team?? Why?? Speaking on PP1, Krider finally demoted to the 4th line, but there he was on PP1. Sure, reward him for the great effort..

MC…He thinks he has to keep playing them to snap them out of it….Too much time has passed…Drastic changes needed…Maybe a heart transplant…

Losing 5-1 and that fucking retard coach puts the same power play guys out there.

mf…Couldn’t disagree more…They are their own personalities…And if you believe our D and other underperforming players are doing poorly because of them I disagree even more…

If the organization doesn't care, neither do I. And maybe that's the one thing that will get Dolan's attention. No one cares.

PJ…..agree with you there on that point. Kreider is just out for a skate to pass the afternoon. He has no interest in playing hockey anymore. He’s the longest serving Ranger , he’s a big , strong, fast winger and he should be the one setting an example

KIS/PJ: I'm quite confident Nash got into the ears of Zbad and Kreider with his, "there's more to life than hockey" and since that time, "they play to NOT get hurt!" Trade Zbad & Kreider, the culture of this roster will do a 180. jmo-n

Amazes me that a team so lost in defensive play .. remains so good on the PK .. really ..

MC, you got 5 years on me but your two teams are also mine. I made sixty gallons of vino this year and it's still at least six weeks away from being ready. But I started tapping into it today...lol. Must be why I'm able to laugh this much today!

I am 65, been cheering for these fuckers for 58 years. If they don't fire the piece of shit GM and the lard ass coach today, I am done. My other team is the fucking Giants. Good think I have lots of alcohol! One more thing, If i ever run into Joe M, i am going to punch him in the fucking head. And Where is Wildcard? I am sure he still thinks this is a great fucking team.

Before this went totally south I and some others were calling for some hockey trades…Most said have to wait to deadline…Miller too good, Kreider will never be traded etc….Now wr have no leverage and have devalued many of our assets…

There. Valitwit finally hints at it. Leaders should be speaking up in the room. But when they are the bigger part of the problem how can they? Beyond hypocritical. And we come back to it. Gotta move on from the declining core.

Rhet: Yeah, I know Kenny is in high demand, but it's MSG!! Tell the major networks they can have the Islander guy....forgot his name....you know....the gut with the big fat round head!!! :)

Kis…Agree this is not a slump that they will snap out of…Going on too long and these aren’t close games we are losing…We get outplayed by a wide margin…

If i was drury id blow the whole thing up. I get rid of the coach and any and every player would be made available This is bullshit. The players cant thjnk they run the show. This group has done this to too many coaches. They dod it to Av to Dq gallant and not lavi. Smh. Thst Bullshit They get paid a lot of money to play a fucking game

jratelle19.... OOOOOhhh, I like that a lot. The only thing about Kenny is that he's very in demand these days. I guess it will depend on how much he wants it.

Send Dickaletti and Giannone both packing. Maybe they can find work helping Sam with putting on his hair yamulka....lol

Rhet: Kenny Albert play by play. Dave Maloney color commentary. Keep Boilermaker between the benches.

So, next season, do you do Dave Maloney as the play-by-play and Boiler as the color guy?

Of course fighting isnt the only measurement....it's when you do it silly boy lolol.

VCP- I looked up both their careers. 7 career fights for Stamkos. In 16 years before this season. Kreider has twice as many. I’m not disagreeing with your assessment of Stamkos as a leader, just your statement that Stamkos drops the gloves and we have no one like that. We don’t know anything about leadership in the room, if fighting is your only measurement it doesn’t hold up.

If the team has wuit fuck them. Drury should just start moving the players. Ship them out. Its the players job to play. Its drury's iob to make the team the best he can. Too bad of they dont have it theor way. They sre paid millions to play. Fucking pieces of shot

Newfie: I'm with ya, pal! But unfortunately, high ticket prices has attracted too many bougie fans that lack the piss and vinegar of old time blueseaters. Booing is too much work. Years ago, in a game like this, we would've booed these players right out of the building. Example: my brother-in-law gave me his tickets for the last game of the season in April. His seats are front row against the glass in the 200s behind the net the NYR shoot at for two periods. I had this millennial two rows behind me get triggered every time I leaned forward sitting on the edge of my seat when there was a rush coming in our direction. I stood up and faced him and yelled "Listen, son...you don't shut the fuck up, I'm gonna stand the rest of the game!" Fucker never said another word.

Maybe lardass should plagiarize the la coach and play 7-11 , until dd drury fires him.

Rhet: "Must be because Mercury & Venus are in 'Rhetr0Grade!'" Ha ha ha ha, I make funny-punny. :-)

E, I hear you, but can we please put brakes on how "successful" Kings rebuild looks like? What they have won? Last time i checked, they have not gotten out of 1st round in 10 years. Would argue that Rangers by far had more success then Kings. Also would argue about Drury not addressing team toughness. If anything, players Rangers have being drafting have a lot coming with players you spoke off. Problem have always being with this current core.

This is disaster territory…Players horrible but Laviolette can’t last much longer…

Does Dreary Drury sit in a Ranger mgmt box? The MSG broadcasts never show it. Or him. By design I suppose.

RF4L- clearly we haven’t been humiliated enough. I wish we could get rid of the GM, coach and half of this gutless effin team.

Easy game for LA…Play good D and wait for Ranger mistakes equals a blowout….

Love the no celebration there. Appropriate. These guys should be ashamed of themselves.

We are going through one of those things were we play better on the road and play like shit at home.

Coach_Newf: IMO, the fans should all pick themselves up AND LEAVE!" It would be all over the news. That's a "grass-roots" effort!.

This is what needed to happen. To get humiliated on home ice. Something has to give. If GM and coach are still employed tomorrow…….

VCP: You're honestly going to go after Igor for what's taking place on the ice right now?

The fans at MSG should start booing now and keep it up till the end of the 2nd.........if things don't get any better in the third..stand up and leave. For once , I would love to see that ...it would send a clear message to the higher-ups and boy would it make the news ! Come on fans .do it !

Coloradomark was that in the past 5 years lololol or in the 19th century.....who started a fight today .....not kreider???

Lardiolette wants to be fired I think. Take his money and ride away in the sunset.

it is a massacre .. coach has to go ..team has quit .. this is like a scrimmage game for the Kings with non contact jersey's

Mf they need a goal and the extra point and should for for the 2 points extra point. This is football right?

Good news we have an 11.5 million dollar goalie that doesn't make a difference.ooopppsss there goes another one lolo

Okay, so I wrote that after an awful lot of merlot so forgive me the inability to be completely articulate but I think my general points stand. I suppose I think what irks me a bit and I’m guilty of it as well at times is jumping down wells and chasing fanciful ideas. But at the end of the day at present I think it’s not a big deal. Look at what Florida, Vegas, and TB did, and do that. Look at their rosters and yes, they are highly skilled teams but they have common trends. And then look at the Rangers and where are the deficits? I skip coaching because what’s the difference who is coaching if the mix ain’t right. And let’s be honest. All things being equal at what point has Drury shown that he understands it and is addressing it? I know the cap has had everyone by the balls and makes trades ridiculously complicated. But the cap is going up. And already I hear creeks of those who wanna talk that the Rangers need Rantanen to be signed this summer. It just is case study 11,000 of my life where everyone thinks that there is some sexy star player who is what they need to get them over the top. I’m so beyond this thought process and I find it completely maddening. Maybe for once the thought process can be: lets make a hockey team that knows how to win hockey games? Or in the meantime we can watch the Kings show us what a successful retooling looks like.

Leaders not leading. TROCHECK could’ve saved a goal with a smidge of effort. WTF happened to that guy?

Just blow this up. Fire sale. No pride anywhere to be found. Bring up all AHL players.

Mf- reading comp problem on my part- I thought you were suggesting both salaries! My bad.

Valitwit saying Igor has to drag his team back into the game. Gutless. Why isn't this on the coach and skaters?? It is of course but no one involved in the broadcast dare says it.

My god it's hard to cheer for this team right now ,the way it's comprised and the way they are not playing . I trust you older long time fans on here are seeing what I am seeing and hating itas much as I am ? The sad part ,I think, is that there is no easy ,quick fix to this situation.

Watched Kreider on his last shift when Chytl took the penalty. It looked like he was out there for a pre game skate. No effort whatsoever, outside of the occasional tip in pp goal he is essentially useless out there. Something has to give here, they have all given up

Z can’t even take a slapped anymore. NYS - you said it very well. It’s time to let go of what could have been and what might still be. 4 coaches and not much to speak of. This core just simply doesn’t have it. I recognized this awhile back, but last year had me thinking I could be wrong. I wasn’t. The second issue and maybe even more concerning, is Drury’s inability to GM. He flat out Sucks. Sather part II. Can’t make a good hockey trade, or any trade for that matter. Only his drafting record stands up somewhat, but none of those picks are materially contributing….yet. It’s time to offload the vets and retool/rebuild this team w/ a younger group that has more bite/anger/physicality WITH talent. I’m not talking about goons. I’m talking about Cullye’s. Lastly, we need a coach. A younger visionary type coach with a proven track record lingo for a shot. Like the Caps coach, etc. SO much needs to change. Core vets, GM, and coach

Cmark: I believe this is the post you replied to: Cmark: "Grass-Hopper" :-) I previously posted the Zibanejad & Lindgren with us eating 50% (the max) of Lindgren's salary to even the trade dollars. Lindgren is in the last year of his contract, so we'd only be eating salary for this season. The return, Zacha & Zadorov, sprinkle in the details to get it done. I think that Z'bad might accept Boston as a landing spot, but it's guesswork on my part.

My kid is at his first game at the Garden. Said they don’t even look like they are trying out there. I told him this is what it looked like from 98 to 04….but this might be worse. What the hell has happened?

MF- if we don’t eat salary of Z I’m down. I like Zadarov. I don’t remember much about Zacha except him torching us last pre-season.

The young D looks like Shit..The kid line not playing well..EDSTROM is worthless....The virus continues to spread through the entire team....What do you expect when the kids see how little guys like Panarina, ZBAD and Kreids fight their way through the other team..The Troubs trade helped fry this team even more...Laviolette and Drury must go......That siad..I want to eat some crow in a few hours!!!!

have to appreciate the comical play in their own end... struggle at basic clears .. scramble just to push it out in the neutral zone so the Kings can fire it back in and it starts all over again

VCP - Fox on one leg is still a top 20 dman. On two, he’s top 10. He is the literally the least of NYR worries.

CMark: Not what I was meaning to imply IF it read that way. We would NOT retain any of Zbads salary, just 50% of LINDGRENS for this year. IF it was a dealbreaker, we'd have to look at an excell spreadsheet to see how retaining $500K to $1mill (maximum) per year of Zbads contract in addition to the 50% of Lindgren. IF it was to help us get a draft pick in return, maybe.

TD: The short and direct answer is, "you don't replace Zbad, we move on." WE roll with a less talented Center, with 3 lines which are more black N blue. The first order of business should be to break up Zbad & Kreider onto different lines. They couldn't even contour their game to include an experienced veteran RW like Smith. Fuck Them! They had their chance, the 3 of them should have been fast out of the gate and working together as soon as Smith became a Ranger in the offseason. Times up! Zbad and Kreider on different lines at Even Strength. Not doing so is where I point the direct finger at Drury and Lavy for not implementing it. How many coaches are the players going to burn through? Want to call for a scalp? It should be Drury's. BOSTON, are you interested in ZBAD, because MF is interested in ZADOROV. We can offer LINDGREN to plug the hole left by Zadarov, and you can offer ZACHA to plug the hole left by "his Meakness." Add in some peripherals if need be to even the mother out, and I forgot to mention that we'll gladly retain 50% of Lindgrens salary for this year. Seattle, Smith and ??? for Tanev? WPG: What do you want for KUPARI? Get Zacha & Kupari and all of a sudden, we have 5 centers. That would really suck, NOT! Zacha or Chytil to a Top9 Wing with Carrick & Tanev filling 2 of 3 slots on the 4th!?!? with Edtrom/Berard/Rempe rounding out the 4th. That's Playoff Style Depth IIRC. So, what to do about the Defense? BUFF: What do you want for SAMUELSSON? IF we haven't traded JONES yet, maybe we keep him, maybe we trade him... IF Samuelson can stay healthy, we'd have Samuelsson on 2nd or 3rd pair LHSD. Zadarov paired with FOX to start as an experiment, and a warm body for the 3rd pair LHSD if Samuelsson can handle the 2nd pair duty. Trade the injured MILLER? Not really looking to but I'm fielding offers. Can't accomplish this all? Well, we can look to trade Kreider as well. We've got plenty to barter with. jmnshfo-snatcherally

Rangers heads (positioning, backchecking, chnges, coverge),even the kids, are not in the game..teamwide mindfuck and malaise points straight to the Coach and GM

NYStrnger - Z is the albatross because of his status, Laviolette and contract..but other plyers are competing with him..SOmething, many things needs to be changed..Have no confidence in Dumbass Drury

MF- I do t think the cap would work. We’d be trading an 8.5 cap hit where we retain 1/2 at 4.25. They’d take Lindgren at 3 for 1 year we’d add 4.75 and 5 m salaries for the next 3 and 4 years. Just don’t know if that gives us enough back at the cap hit.

Top line is clueless in their defensive zone....KK continues his good vision nd great passing. but....

Yes, we have to stop looking at this team by what they were or could have been and start looking at it as they are. Drury has to act now accordingly. This group will never get it done no matter who coaches them. That ship has sailed. Sorry. No mas! And by some miracle Drury can trade Z, yes that leaves a big hole at center. But he is no s #1C anymore. There would have to be more moves. I would look to also move Kreider for a really good physical D man and also move Lindgren before we get nothing for him.

Rangers no where near the level of the Kings.. remain standing still and 1 and done in the o-zone..

Unless you're in the locker room, you really don't know what kind of leader a player is.

Gotta love the D and positioning of that great two-way top line...not to mention Jones..

VCP- you are correct, Stamkos has three cups. Your comment about how he dropped the gloves just doesn’t work as he’s only done it a handful of times. His leadership is unquestionable. But you mentioned his fights, I was just pointing out that Kreider drops the gloves much more often so I don’t think that is an example of leadership.

It did not look like to me that Tro or Laffy were skating too hard to get back to defend that goal.

Not sure what one is flippantly talking about not trading overpaid declining pouting Zweep like he's still a number 1 centre. Get something for him before you have to include a 1st to jettison him.

Right now take your pick on who to pin the tail on which monkey. Wrong way druray is the head of the monster, coming in second place is lardass , third are the players who refuse to really play for one or both of them. With this clusterfuck just call up Rempe and take off his shackles. So he’ll get suspended, but until then he can do some damage and maybe wake up the players. The top two are the dynamic duo pos who only care about themselves. They are the cancer culture who continue to prove that they both should be gone. While the players are a work slowdown to expose the duo. The proof is that almost none are playing close to their usual level. They have the flu flew. I hope this comes to a head sooner rather than later.

While I don't disagree with E...the Rangers COULD use someone to stir the drink...The problem here AIN'T the personnel as much as it is the overarching team philosophy. There needs to be a buy-in. As Shorsey would say...it's not that they don't want to win, is that they don't hate losing...LAST SEASON, they hated losing. It was so fucking clear. They would go down a goal and then storm back. This season? They go down a goal and it's like the game is over. It's like they listen to the bozo announcer saying 'the Rangers are 0 and blah blah blah when the don't score the first goal...' So yeah, a LOMBERG or GOURDE type wouldn't hurt...Shit, there are a dozen or so guys of that mold they could get and not pay much for them either...but it ain't gonna change culture. That needs to happen at the top, and they just traded away the guy who was most apt to do it.

I'm not sure which roster all you folks are looking at as you're flippantly talking about trading away ZIBANEJAD...How, exactly, are the Rangers going to replace him in the lineup? Is the suggestion that they should move CHYTIL into that spot? Because if I need to tell y'all the issues with THAT concept, you haven't been watching too closely this season...But lets say...for argument's sake...that The Amazing Kreskin strolls in and tells us Fil will be healthy for the rest of the season. We now have SMITTY Jr.-CHYTIL-KREIDER...the PANARIN line...and you know who our third line center becomes? Yeah. BRODZINSKI. I guess they could promote GROULX...but are you getting the idea here? I don't, for one second, believe DRURY would do what mf suggests, which is get ZACHA...but again. You're putting a guy who is barely holding down third line center into your first line center spot...Even if you think Z is done and a pussy and whatever...the fact of the matter is he's either the second or third best center on this team...frankly, I think he's the BEST center, with TROCHECK a close second...but again...if you're moving Z, you're essentially ending the 2024-25 cup contention, because there's no center coming back in that deal...or coming period...who would replace him...the closest we could possibly come to a situation like that would be to hope Vancouver really does want to move on from JT MILLER...or that Nashville would swap STAMKOS for him...That's it. Full stop. Ever other scenario? The Rangers are getting worse...OH...and did I mention the only real prospect at center that MIGHT be NHL-ready is LABA, and he's not even signed to a contract...

Figure out who are the worst of the bunch….https://youtu.be/XCFzX6yZHAc?si=RQduC2hqSr4Tposa

Coloradomark in this case your completely WRONG.....kreider ain't no leader , stamkos has cups besides between his legs..... although he may be past his prime as of now. stamkos over kreider any decade.

Damn, The "E" fan-club is stepping it up! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAZLgsDRUv4

Preach on E. Hallelujah! On another note, why the f can’t they get Matt Robertson into a single game? This is the perfect time to see how he handles it. The needless mindfucking of this kid is shameful. Trade or release him already.

Cmark: "Grass-Hopper" :-) I previously posted the Zibanejad & Lindgren with us eating 50% (the max) of Lindgren's salary to even the trade dollars. Lindgren is in the last year of his contract, so we'd only be eating salary for this season. The return, Zacha & Zadorov, sprinkle in the details to get it done. I think that Z'bad might accept Boston as a landing spot, but it's guesswork on my part.

I think hoping to trade Z is a pipe dream. What crappy contract would we have to take back to trade him? Obviously he is struggling but people think some team is going to take him and give us back draft picks or prospects. I don’t think there are many teams that could handle his cap hit. So we take half his salary? Do we want half his salary cap hit to not play for us? And which of those teams would he waive his NMC for? I know people think Drury can force them to accept a trade but players negotiate that clause for a reason. I just haven’t seen a realistic trade proposal that works for both teams. We also tend to think other teams place value on guys we dismissed, as if it’s a big secret and other teams won’t know this player sucks!

RDW: He was recently recalled and in first game scored a goal. 6'7" 220 and mobile. What would a package of Z (probably with some salary retained unfortunately) and Miller fetch from them? I know many will balk at paying some of Z's salary (I'm thinking 1/4) but the Stars don't exactly have tons of cap space and have to think about how much Miller will command this summer. Given his crappy year, at this point not nearly as much as he was probably envisioning a year ago but I'd say at least $5,000,000. That said, the Stars have Jamie Benn's $9,500,000 coming off their books this July.

RF4L: Exactly why I posted a link to Lian Bichsel. Would be great if he was one of the players to get back from Dallas.

Lian Bichsel (somehow, I'm having a flashback to someone named "Lias") - 2022 NHL Mock Draft Scouting reports: http://www.mynhldraft.com/2022-nhl-draft/player-profiles/Lian-Bichsel

Rhet et al: https://www.si.com/mlb/yankees/news/yankees-preparing-full-court-press-to-sign-all-star-infielder-per-insider-grant9

RDW. I speculated last week about Z going to Dallas because Seguin who makes more than Z is out for the regular season. Do it Drury!!!

RF4L: I tend to agree with you but my hunch is that Drury is going to continue to try to move him no matter what. I think Dallas might be a good landing spot for him. Does Z finally give in and accept a trade? We'll have to wait and see..

RDW: and to reiterate, Zianejad & Kreider have good trade value, the value could be better and may be off their peaks, but the perceived and actual value is still there. Thank ou for your service, seeya! :-)

RDW. I think it's wishful thinking when it comes to Z being moved. Maybe in the off-season if the Rangers don't make the POs or get bounced in the 1st round? I think his Ranger life has to continue to be miserable all season for him to consider waving his NMC.

MF: I wouldn't be surprised if Drury is going to end up moving CK, Z, and Smith before the deadline. Lets face it, for how much money they cost, what they bring to the table, and their age, it might the perfect time to do so. With Perrault, Othmann, and Berard waiting in the wings maybe he tries to find a younger, gritter center to pivot the 3rd line. I personally like the Trocheck and Chytil lines as they are right now. Getting the right mix for that 3rd line will be key in making this team harder to play against.

VCP: Stamkos has fought 7 times. He’s fought Marchand, Alzner, Malkin, and three Rangers: Buchnevich, Zherdev and Lafreniere. If that’s your definition of leadership, Chris Kreider has fought 3X as many times.

Would love to pry this guy away from the Stars..... https://www.eliteprospects.com/player/665087/lian-bichsel

Meant to imply "this season." We're already 1/3rd into this season, times a wasting.

This organization needs to make significant moves if we are to compete, and even if they do, I don't see the NYR's pulling together to a degree to go to the SCF's. Want to change the culture of this team? Unfortunately, one or two of the cornerstones this team's current identity need to be traded away, addition by subtraction. That would be MEAKAH & or KREIDER. There's no sustained venom in their game, periodically we get a flash of intensity in a shift, but rarely back to back shifts, or even an entire period.

vcp1994: Trade Fox, that's OK, we need to retain one of the best Defenseman in the league. Put the bong down, maybe try the crack pipe. 1/2 full ?????

E......NJ may have got the memo but they did not understand it ,or read it properly. Their last game against the Leafs ,Pachoretti completely laid out their little superstar Hughes with a check to the head that could've ended his season. And the only thing happened was Doudie Hamilton skating in to the rescue and kissing the Leaf player on the cheek.LOL,,,,,,,,,,,,.just sayin'

I’d like for once if the Rangers could buy a clue and understand that a team needs grit to succeed—especially in the playoffs. They’ve been so focused on skill for so long that they’ve ignored the importance of adding players who can bring that edge. But grit alone isn’t enough; the game today also demands speed, and that’s why I covet players like Ryan Lomberg. Guys like Brandon Tanev, Nick Paul, Hathaway, and Mathieu Joseph are exactly the type of players the Rangers need. I could go on and on. Barbashev, Crouse, Lizzie, Gourde. All different size players but They bring a perfect mix of tenacity, speed, and physicality, and they thrive in the hard areas of the ice where games are won and lost. These are the players who change the identity of a team, just as Tampa Bay did during their Cup-winning years. The Rangers need to wake up and realize that adding players like Lomberg, Tanev, or Hathaway is what they lack. It’s not fights, it’s not even hit numbers (subjective) these guys are all quick to very fast. They push the pace constantly. And lo and behold they make room for your star players to be effective. What is so to have a rangers team that employed a group like Mcnabb, Roy, Kolesar, Hague. They are what brings the ferocity of Vegas out. I think you mixes in that group with this NYR team and they’d be scary. Clearly the Devils got the message over the past few seasons because little Hughes and his bunch. They got Mecdemind for Rempe pure and simple. Useless in my eyes. But Pesce, Dillon, Cotter. Yeah NJ got the memo.

E - Spot on with those last two posts! I look at this tem and it is getting further and furhter away from the type of team needed to win the Cup..And that's all on DRURY..Why I don't want an obviously Talented PINTO

E stamkos got into a fight a few times during their cup years. He did whatever was needed. We don't have leadership like that.

League has figured out fox , fox hasn't adapted? Trade him he is too slow and small anyway... Besides mancini, Schneider, kakko, trouchek, cuylle , maybe edstrom. Trade the rest of them.

Stranger: you can look at TB for those years. Their top-6 weren’t axe murderers. But the bottom-6 were rough. And their defense was a great mix of skill and physicality. That’s what I don’t get. TB wins a cup on the back of such high flyers like Coleman and Goodrow.

As an aside- I pretty much lost interest in baseball after that season, and after they fired Girardi, just to hire this jerkoff Boone. It was because of him, blowing out his knee in the 2003 off-season that I had to endure 10 plus years of fucking A-Rod on the Yankees. I have been a lifelong Yankees fan, much longer than I followed hockey, never mind becoming a Rangers fan in my teen years, and I have mostly stepped away from that team and sport. I feel the same about to happen with the Rangers. Only so much crap one can take before it is not worth it. Too much shit happening around the world, and hockey has not been the needed good escapism.

Astros are a pathetic, cheating organization. That asshat owner should have been forced to sell the team, and that 2017 world series should have been taken away from them. My god, after what baseball did to Pete Rose, they got off fucking light.

E I feel the lack of teamwide toughness/grit- As you say a style that is winning hockey- is by design. I can’t understand why the organization can’t see this and hasn’t for pretty much all my lifetime. Except for your examples. Seems so simple but must be totally alien to MSG management. They always like to talk the talk, but actions speak louder than words. All the gritty players that have come through the organization and just got marginalized, demoted, traded…just disgusting. Many having pretty good hockey careers on other teams. This organization always thinks that toughness means one knuckle dragger surrounded by the Ice Capades. Seriously wonder why I follow this team with such passion when they mostly do opposite of what I would like to see as my team. Must be a personal defect! haHa

Reportedly, the NYY's had a deal in place for Kyle Tucker, but the Astros Owner vetoed the deal because he refused to send him to the Yankees. Not a shocker, but I'm kind of surprised it got as far as it did.

Tuch is a better fit right now. Tuch plays fast, he is big, he has an edge to him. Hes capable of playing both sides and hes good at and in front of the net. He frees Zibanejad up to get in some holes for 1-timers. He would give a net front presence to a PP2. Ive been looking to fix that spot for years already. Ever since Buchnevich who plays a similar game but not quite as angry. But I still think the only language to be spoken to save this season is defensive-defenseman.

I’m so tired of the high flying Rangers. We had only a few iterations of mean down and dirty Ranger teams. One was the team from the early 90’s. Another one was Tortorella’s black and blue shirts. Lo and behold. They won a cup with one and went to the ECF under both. And arguably AV inherited that grizzled Tortorella team and went to a SCF with it. The rest of my life is an endless string of sprinkled in grit. Stock, boxcar, Domi, Langdon, Fotiu, Kyrpreos. But very few times have they had that identity. The winning identity. The identity of Vegas or Florida, or TB a few seasons ago. Or the LA Kings. The Blues. And those are just some of the latest expressions in the NHL. Almost never the NYR. It’s like they must fly in the wind against conventional wisdom and show everyone another way. And that way never works.

If it was my choice (and it's not) and I'm choosing between Cozens, Tuch or JT Miller. I would go with Cozens. He's another right handed shot and of similar age to both Laffy and Cuylle. Meaning he can also be part of the team now and the next gen. He should also be cheaper than Miller.

HOSPO: A lack of defensive depth and weakness at center has been a recurring theme for this team. How many seasons have we been saying this? It dates all the way back to their first trip to the ECF, when TB shut down any chance of getting to the net. The response back then? Nothing was done to address it. The issue isn’t a lack of skill—this team has that in spades. The offense is loaded. What’s missing are the quality support players, the ones who do the dirty work. And that’s what’s so frustrating: the draft build was supposed to be the hard part, the long and painful road. Filling out the roster with pluggers and muckers? That’s supposed to be the easy part. Yet somehow, here we are. It’s hard to understand what’s going on with Drury. What’s the identity of this team? What does he want? A high flying team? Then why bring in a coach who preaches the stingiest of all strategies? It’s like nothing makes sense. They’ve got a killer power play, and they can score six goals in a game. But they don’t have any real defense outside of Igor. And let’s be honest—you’re not beating Igor for seven goals unless you catch him on his worst night. And that seems to be the plan. But now, even the little defense they had isn’t clicking. The power play has cooled off, and even-strength scoring—always a weak point—is pedestrian. And the thing is, this isn’t a hard problem to solve. The players to fix it are seemingly always available. But here’s the reality: this is the final ride, the last hurrah for this group as currently constructed. Big changes are coming, likely sweeping ones if they stay on this path. To me? Just for fux sake someone just hear me in management. Get a couple of veteran stay at home meanies on the blue line. Guys who’ve been in 100 playoff games. Guys who play the game hard and honest. And when that defense gets more stingy a lot of problems will not be nearly as glaring. This team should not be on the bubble with the talent it has. With the goaltending it has. And with the offensive blue line it has.

Let's see, Dickweed Drury has left the team with zero meaningful depth at Center AND Mackey and Ruwhedl on defense???...but the coach and the players are the only problem???..Along with his player/transcation handling, Drury has been burning this team to the ground

Rhet: I beg to differ. What's going to happen is that the Boston Squad won't let him get away with his kum-ba-yah boool spit and he's going to get hurt. Just like Rick Nash got awa with not being aggressive on the offensive side of the puck here in NY, and then when he was in Boston, he had to up his physicality and boom, chalk up another concussion.

BTW I concur with those saying Fox's playing contributing to the Rangers issues. He had 33 turnovers last year. This year already 27! Add that to 1 goal when last year he had 17 and by those stats alone he's inexplicable struggling.

Personally I like MacKay. With Trouba gone he's arguably the meanest dman under contract.

Key should’ve been playing with Fox full stop. They were better than Lindgren. When Lindgren came back he sucked, Key sucked not paired with Fox and Fox sucks with Lindgren. Meanwhile, no defensive defenseman to be found anywhere.

OK, I can't stand BizzDOuche on Air..but gotta Give Bissonette some credit...Hockey players, except for turds like Pat Kane, are the best and sometimes baddest!

MF.... You know if we trade him to BOS, he'll bounce back and make them better. You really want to make the Bruins better, MF? :)

Mackey was recalled and is playing with Schneider. That's how much we think of Robertson. Just let the kid go already.

https://www.boston.com/sports/boston-bruins/2024/10/08/nikita-zadorov-boston-bruins-nhl-hockey-panthers/#:~:text=Zadorov%27s%20reputation%20precedes%20him%20after,intimidating%20skaters%20in%20the%20NHL.

BTW: I say Zbad to BOS because that is the only local team that I can see ZBAD accepting a trade to.

“They placed K’Andre Miller on injured reserve Friday with an upper-body injury.”

E - I think we are long past finding a RW for ZBAD for success at ES..ZBAD is the problem..no sense wasting the assets for a RW..Best we can hope from a Bromancer line is solid break even play at ES and strong PK/PP from both

E: I did some homework: KUPARI & TANEV are both rated as faster than the average skater. They are both players we can look to extend. Tanev brings a lot of intangibles we need, Kupari is a classic buy low acquisition, I see him penciled in between Cuylle & KaKKo and he's a fellow FINN for KaKKo. Chytil can Center Kreider & Tanev, or we can reconfigure, because if we can ship Meakah & Lindgren to BOS for Zacha & Zadorov, we can experiment with Chytil & Zacha at the Center or Wing position and slide Tanev down with Carrick and Bedard or whomever. Naturally we'd need Coach Lardo to roll 4 lines & really manage the TOI. SCHENN is a RHSD, IMO 1st & foremost we need a Schenn-Type that's a LHS. "RF" Wahtsa matta yu? Afraid to do something bold like "Win a friggin Cup?" We have the trade pieces to be bold, re-model, retool, rebuild on the fly, and compete this season. jmnshfo-snatcherally! :->)

I like TUCH a lot but we need more physicality on this team. Sandpaper should be a minimum.

Luke Schenn makes $2,750,000 and has another year after this. I've always liked this guy - he's got size, hits and fights but is a tad slow. That said, I'd take him over Lindgren right now.

This is the 2nd time Engvall has gone on waivers. He passed through the first time because Fat Lou gave him a ridiculous contract that no other team has any interest in touching. Wahlstrom is interesting but has under-achieved his entire career. He only makes $1,000,000 and will be a RFA this summer - I suspect he'll get claimed.

MF: get us Tuch. We need the big, fast RW for Zibanejad and buddy-boy. And I’ve always like Tanev. And get us Lomberg. Plus go get Luke Schenn now. We need the defensive defenseman veteran.

OLiver WAHLSTROM and Pierre ENGVALL on Waivers..Can we please pick up one just for DREW???

JFC - I trust your take on the Westchester/Putnam County and LI kids and it pretty much goes with what I've seen..ALthough Pete and CHris FERRARO were pretty spicy players for us..:)....My take on PINTO is just on what I have seen of him in the NHL..Don't like.....But agree on the CHYTL and KK take

I'm on the warpath today folks, here's the deal. Trade Meakahhh and Lindgren to Boston for Zacha and Zadarov "if" you fine folks feel that Zadorov is the kind of top 4 LHSD you'd want on this roster. We eat half of Lindgrens salary to balance out the cap hit, and we ask for something additional coming our way, maybe a 3rd round pick... We call up WPG, and acquire Rasmus Kupari, there's a young FAST rhs center who's wasting away on their 4th line, reclamation project... Next, hello Seattle crackheads, we have Smith and ?? for TANEV... Lastly, get LHSD SAMUELSSON out of Buffalo .. we just retooled and rebuilt and are ready for this year's playoffs .. What else is concerning you kids? :-)

Hospo - hockey kids from Westchester & LI have a culture where everything seems to be about flash & dash & being cool…I witnessed it first-hand as my son played out of Connecticut and played against many of these teams on LI & in upper Westchester County. They like the Michigan moves & dangling and the only time they hit is when they see a smaller kid on the ice or someone who is vulnerable….then they’re all tough guys. I know Zegras seems to fit the mold but I thought Pinto had more to him with his size and his ability to win faceoffs & PK. And yeah, for me it’s all about Chytil insurance because it seems to me it’s inevitable that he's gonna get hury again and probably at the worst possible time. Ae need someone who can play wing but is able to step in and play C. I think this is why the Rangers were trhing out Kakko at C. im hoping that KK can rise up in the upcoming tournament and then use that momentum to turn the corner big time when he comes back to the Rangers. If he coukd be the "in house" solution at C then Dury's job becomes easier. I'd rather think that way than yell FIRE HIM,& FIRE HIM and TRADE HIM & TRADE HIM & TRADE HIM like an NHL Don Quijote de La Mancha!

JFC - I am likely wrong but IMWO, from what I have seen of his play, Shane Pinto is not the type of player you want to target if winning in the POs in the next two years is the goal...If it's not. by all means, add him to the softies..I also think they should stay away from local kids...Damn, I wish CHYTL didn't have the concussion history, I love the way he is playing

A guy who I and TD have mentioned before as a good target for the Rangers is Shane Pinto. He just seems dead in the water up in Ottawa. There is no way a kid with his talent should have only 1 G 2 A and be -9 at this point! This is when you strike on a kid like this. He had 20 goals three seasons ago but since then his stats have tanked, he had that gambling suspension & now he seems like a devalued asset at only 24 years old. He’s still only 24-years old, and is listed as 6’3”, 201 lbs. Maybe getting back to his home state will shake him out of his doldrums. How much could Ottawa ask for him at this point with his stats and his history?

Seems to be some soft tampering here. It must be all Larry Brook’s fault. There was never a mention of names before lb caused all this trouble for wrong way druray. He’s a real pioneer in reporting. Where’s Eklund and the other rumor spreaders, what are they saying? Knick knack patty whack give the dog a bone.

Haha I thought you meant Dante FABBRO. Non sequitor, but many...think about what would happen among the New York Ranger fan base if the GM lost two first-round picks through waivers and both went on to be solid NHL players...FABBRO and TOLVANEN lost for zippo. TOMASINO lost for a fourth rounder. ASKAROV traded for a conditional first rounder. Talk about a team that knows not what to do with its top prospects...

Yeah Ryan is probably going to go top-10. Maybe even top five. He'll be an NHL-ready player by the time his draft year rolls around. Of course, the Rangers could very well be in the thick of a retool by that time too...

ANFSCD, Ryan Roobroeck, Dylan's younger brother, is 9th in OHL scoring but not draftable until 2026. His birthday is 9/25, meaning he'll be an older prospect in that draft but regardless, just 17 and climbing up the ladder. In 29 games he's got 23 goals and 43 points. At 6'4" and 200, he's gonna be a prize catch by some team. He's a left winger...

One guy who they could probably get for far less than one of the Ducks' high-profile kids who I think could be a good mid-line center is Sam COLANGELO. Big kid, physical. Very solid defensively, but I think he has a lot of unrealized offensive potential. He just turned pro last year, so maybe not. But just thinking they have a ton of centers.

Zegras was playing wing on the first line with Carlsson . McTavish has been playing center. So has Strome. McTavish would be a great get…….but I think Coach Cronin gets whacked before they would make a deal like that. Their first pair D was Trouba and Fowler last game.

We need a center for when CHYTL gets hurt and a big physical D-man.....KAKKAO and Lindgren + For McTavish and Troubs (they eat 4 mill)

RDW - If he's playing wing, it's because they want him in the top six and have our friend STROMER in there with CARLSSON. ZEGRAS is the guy I think they have playing wing.

McTAVISH being available doesn't really track with me...but the truth is, the Ducks are loaded up in the middle and I could see them moving him to fill another need...but TBH? I think if there's a guy they move, it'll be ZEGRAS...I see McTAVISH and CARLSSON as a perfect compliment at center. Less so with CARLSSON and ZEGRAS. Either way? If he's on the block, I'd ask the price. My guess, though, is that it's high. Very high.

RF4L: I certainly wouldn't mind getting McTavish but it looks like he's playing mostly wing, right? We really need to find a young C IMO

Dunno if it's true but Mason MacTavish's name is now apparently in rumour list. Go get him Drury!

Again, this team isn't going to improve by trade. Just not going to happen. Trades are for rounding out a group that is close. This one is about the exact opposite, struggling to best one of the worst teams in the league after losing to THE worst team in the league. The problem is behind the bench. LAVIOLETTE to a very small baby step toward a better approach yesterday, but it was also against a weak team. And his decision making...ESPECIALLY at the end of the game...was not exactly great. But we'll see...baby steps. My big problem with this guy is that he takes one step forward in one game(i.e. the Pens), and then two massive steps backward the next two games. Seems incapable of breaking his old habits of overplaying his top players. And it just destroys everything else he's attempting to do. So we'll see. My opinion? There's only two paths to getting back on track: first is for LAVIOLETTE to really take a step back and re-evaluate his approach...second is to fire him. There is no trade that will improve this team as it stands now. In fact, a trade will just make it worse.

Heard Trouba was on for first 4 goals against last night, but 3 were PP and must’ve been on for Cutter goal because +/- was even for the game. Not gonna be easier there than here for him it seems.

This chart is just a sin against NYR and Fox. I loved the Black Knight, but the past 2 years have been a disaster. All he can do now is bleed and threaten to bite your legs off, lol. End it now. https://x.com/JFreshHockey/status/1867231167335784639?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1867231167335784639%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=

mf - Depends on how you define it, but short answer? No. PINTO is a guy who you'd bring on for your second or third line center. Good buy-low option...but again...Shitfuck Brooks kinda burned the bridge with the Sens. I strongly doubt you see the Rangers trading with them any time soon. Either they are butt-hurt or DRURY is butthurt or most likely? Both are butthurt. Good job, Brookstard.

Zbad is most likely not going to waive his NTC, especially if it's to go to Buffalo. I could see him maybe being sold on Dallas or Vancouver.

I think Cozens is very much what the Zibanejad line needs. Big body who plays the walls and puts pucks to the net. But he has wheels and I think on top of defensive defenseman the team has no greater need than speed. I love Bernard’s game though. The guy is a puck hunter. I also like the way Jones gets the puck and if there is no place for it he just throws it into space and turns it into a 50/50. I remember Chicago and TB did this all the time.

TD & anyone else: Do you think that OTT's Shane Pinto is or will be a Top Line Center? t/y

sjw - When the Sharks fired Dave QUINN, Lindy RUFF became the worst coach in the NHL. Like by a lot. Miles even. LAVIOLETTE during his most incompetent bouts doesn't hold a candle to this guy. He is trapped in an era of hockey that doesn't exist any more. I tried to tell Sabres fans this last summer and got laughed at. They were all so excited. It was like watching lambs to a slaughter...Simply put, the dude is inept. I don't give a fuck how many games he's won in the past. Him and QUINN were a magnificently awful tandem.

RF4L - I was gonna say. COZENS looked very pedestrian last night. It's one performance and certainly that doesn't track with what I remember...but I would definitely not give up a piece like LAFRENIERE for him...then again, the Sabres were a mess in general. Very few guys on that team left me with anything more than a 'meh' impression. Tage THOMPSON was about it. UPL, actually, looked like the goaltender Buffalo needed/has needed...Owen POWER. Holy shit, I can't believe that dude was first overall...anywho...win is a win is a win. Maybe if COZENS keeps sucking dead reindeer he WILL go on the market...

Is it me or does Lindgren look even smaller than Zac Jones out there?...The physicality on the defense, with and especially without Miller, is now mainly limited to SCHNEIDER and SCHNEIDER.....At least two physical D-men are needed now..I guess that's where LAVIOLETTE's red headed step son KAKKAO (and one of the few forwards that battle physically) will come in........A nice baby step forward last night and you can see when it's open ice/skating game, the Rangers play a little harder..when the other team starts to grind and just battle, the Rangers have been folding... becoming more and more obvious about the total lack of snarl/attitude/meanness/physical initiation on this team..Even if they ever get out of this funk, I can't see them playing that way and they are so far behind teams like the Panthers, Caps and , now, even the Devils..

Mollie-wanna-cracker? https://nypost.com/2024/12/12/sports/rangers-lose-kandre-miller-during-sabres-win-in-sudden-concern/

Are there two of him? WTF is this guy? ….https://youtu.be/YvBsTrPO0p0?si=nkZZ-dTeMpduiUfe

In the battle of recycled coaches…“They needed a win, too, so you knew you were going to get a good game from them, a competitive game,” head coach Peter Laviolette said. “I thought our guys played well.”…. Can’t wait for ai to be used as a lie detector…

Lardy won’t read this…. https://nypost.com/2024/12/11/sports/kaapo-kakkos-will-get-chance-to-shine-at-4-nations-cup/

ruff blew by pullin the goalie way to soon.. Rangers were doin their typical back on their heels tryin to lose best ... Sabres had them on the ropes.. and only luck would prevent the tying goal...

I was in TD’s camp of giving Knoblauch the chance or some other fresh face, but I kind of get why Drury didn’t go that route with the Quinn disaster. But man loosing Knoblauch to Edmonton is looking worse and worse. I guess there are coaches available but Drury would have to get off his hands long enough for feeling to seep back into them to make the call. Eh?

The fact that they struggled to win against a horrible Buffalo team says more than anything I can write here. The Rangers tried desperately to give up the lead and get some 3 on 3 practice. Couldn’t quite even do that LOL. Man, what the heck happened to these guys in 6 months?

Certain,y was too close for comfort and they have a long way to go to get back to being one of the NHL’s top teams, but what I liked about this game was that what the Rangers did best (the tenaciousness, the bird-dogging the puck carriers, the back/fire checking and the attention to detail) can be recreated against ANY team they play and it will be a huge improvement over the lazy, stick-checking fly-by checking we’ve seen for 3 weeks. Even when they did reach with the stick, they kept their feet moving and used their bodies….not big, smashing hits but just body-on-body to slow the player down. This a was a game to build off of.

Hospo: I have been in the "don't fire the coach" camp, but if it means losing Kakko, "fire the damn coach!"

Even Pang and the rest of the broadcast team said Chytil line was the best tonight…Fourth line had good energy and Carrick actually pushes back…..

PJ - For KAKKO to get the least amount of shifts of any Ranger shows what Laviolette thinks of him..So, you might as well trade him before you totally devalue the guy..Dickface DRury and Laviolete are the death of this team

Z is out there with Trocheck in case Tro gets tossed on a face off…Rather it be Carrick to be honest…

Berrard and, especially, Carrick played fine..EDSTROM does absolutly nothing for me other than be big

JONES has been good most of the year but does struggle when the other team's really grind..which doesn't bode well for March on..Then again, that could be said for about six other Rangers

Lavioleette has little or no confidence in Laffy, Kakkao, or CHYTL late in games..and it will get worse...Seeing Panarinas puss out there at the end is nauseating..ZBAD too..they too often can get bull dozed in the D-zone (though Z is still aa good PKer)

Kis…Agree Jones struggled tonight….Rangers need D and I hate to say it but they may move Kakko to get it..

I'm sure I'm not the only one here who has had a back injury, so when looking at CK I have to think his back is bothering him to the point where he really shouldn't be on the ice. Give him a few games off....continuing to play game after game in pain is not going to help.

Hospo they hate it because they sre slow and soft. The back end is so small and weak

Actually Z line did well killing the last 37 seconds…Panarin was ridiculous…

Keedier is useless anymore. He barely moves. Why not put kakko out at the end. At least he will foght and he wns batttles. This team needs many changes. Jones might be able to move the puck but he sucks He is way too small. You dont need so mamy smallayers especially on the back end. Carolina floroda and tampa will just physocally beat them up. Edstrom might be 6'6 but he sucks as well. Id love to have tage thompson and greenway on the Ramgers. Rangers need a playewr like greenway. This team just needs so much. So many changes. I thought Zbad played better mot great but better. I dont know amybody that was great.

Hey..a shitty win is still a win..no matter how poorly coached and played by most of the players...although, in the long run, an embarrassing loss agaist the Sabres would have been better to get Big Country's Fat Ass canned..Ranger players hate it when the opposition grinds

Pathetic 3rd, worse after we went up 2-0 .. giveaways and soft D play .. lucky to hold on ...

Why in the world is stick checking perimeter Zbad out their with 30 seconds left

Better question. Why is Panarin out there in that situation? Rhetorical question I know.

This hope that Zbad is going to come around is wishful thinking at this point. He has no desire to do anything beside coasting around the perimeter and trying to make fancy give and go passes with CK....trade him for anything at this point

Miller got smashed by Greenway in the 2nd period….he’s not on the bench for the 3rd

If you are able watch Zscared during that scrum in front of the Ranger net. Beyond wanting to not engage.

Sequence in our own end because Zbad would not engage fora loose puck .. instead just reached timidly ..

Yeah the four bozos on TnT are about as bad as it gets. And yes unfortunately I am including Gretzky, sacrilegious as it sounds, he is just not good at the commentator thing. This seems to be a feature on most US NHL broadcasts and not a bug, except it bugs the crap out of me. About as insightful as a Mika Zbad interview.

And at least the Rangers have two decent lines at ES...Unfortunately, it's Laviolette's 3rd nd 4th lines!

Wow, the Sabres might be even more fucked in the head thAn the Rangers! Zero confidence in anything...All i know is these Rangers better find a way to hold on to this game tonight or it will be 0/1 points out of 6 agaisnt possibly the three worst teaams in the NHL

Let’s lose the Zbad slapper on the PP. Better still let’s lose Zbad on the PP.

I was wishy washy on Carrick when he was signed. Not now. He's the only Ranger who w8ll challenge now regardless of who he's challenging.

Kakkao has turned into a real good passer...just wish he would go to the net more!!

Owen Power. 6 6 first overall a few years ago. Long term deal. Making Miller seem like an Allstar.

Decent 1st period against a bad team....But ..good wok by the 4th line on two shifts, one drawing the PP...Good pass by Panarina and gret shot by ZBAD for the goal..These guys love the open ice!

What the hell was Schneider doing at the end of the period?…Hold the puck and period ends but he passes to a Sabre…

And Lardiolette starts the Zbad line. Gawd you can't make this shit up. I think he wants out. Fired with pay. He can retire wealthy.

Lots of soft tampering here I just hope it doesn’t make anyone hard. But I think there might be a few. Names fly all year long with some more real than others. Gms are tire kickers. …. The lardass watch is on….

TDCHI - Um, way too much to read...Looking at the names in CAPS I say nay to all..or they are not realistic..More importantly..IF this team can't get it's shit together as is with or without Laurel and Hardy (we know which one is Big Country), the season is fucked...Most of hose players are fringe deals not impacting what is ruining this team..If you deal kids (KK or Miller) you better get damn good kids or a monster player back..ANd the kids should only be considered for dealing if you can't move any part of the rotting core ..Ah..the rotting vet core and the rotting head..but it's effecting the kids too

So the names are being tossed around now fast and furious...oddly enough, just days after DRURY leaked that the TROUBA trade was the first and last in the works...but who knows. Seems like he's prepared to do anything but fire LAVIOLETTE to save the season...so let's take a look. Thomas CHABOT - Well, let's start with the fact that he's on the Senators and they're not likely too interested in doing anything that doesn't involve them sticking it to the Rangers. But continuing on, this guy is more or less an Erik KARLSSON lite: Not much defense, pretty soft and almost always injured. Hard pass. Ivan PROVOROV - As I mentioned over the weekend, this is one that would finally galvanize the few remaining supporters DRURY has among Ranger fans into joining the collective wanting to tar, feather and set him adrift in a leaky dingy on the Gowanas Canal. Not very good. Never lived up to his draft billing. And on top of it all, he almost singlehandedly spiked Pride Night in the NHL, which is something that would certainly please NYC's very sizable LGBTQ+ community would. Can you say public relations disaster? This guy would be the whipping boy to end all whipping boys...Trent FREDERIC - Now this is an interesting one. He's really a TKACHUK-lite in many ways, which isn't a huge surprise, because he grew up playing hockey with the TKACHUK boys. Plays a VERY similar game, just he doesn't have the skill set, and at this point, he's really looking to be more of a 15-goal grinder type. That said? He is EXACTLY the type of player the Rangers need and is a natural center...though he's been largely playing wing for the Bruins. Fans would absolutely love his style. Moving KAKKO for him one-up would be absolutely brutal though, and the B's would quickly turn him into a top-six player that would haunt Ranger fans...problem is, the Bruins don't have much to add in terms of prospects or players. KASTELIC and FREDERIC for KAKKO is still too little, IMO...but that's also depending on how the B's feel about Fred, who has had a pretty disastrous start to his season...Alex TUCH is the guy they SHOULD'VE gotten years ago and who would've been a big upgrade over SMITTY Jr. Big strong winger with speed who, while no bruiser, certainly throws his weight around. He'd be a great fit, but he's also the Sabres captain with a reasonable contract that extends for another year. Staple says PERREAULT? He's right on the money. Or OTHMANN and a first rounder and maybe one other small piece. He would be about as premium as forwards come...Joel FARABEE - Yeah, Flyers ain't doing that. Maybe they can work something out in a three-way? For KREIDER? Meh? Honestly, I'd do that deal. The Flyers wouldn't...Trevor ZEGRAS - I've said my part about him. I would absolutely LOVE to see what a kid like that would do with PANARIN. But man...two consecutive bummer seasons. And he's really not what the Rangers need by any stretch of the imagination. But if he's the return for KAKKO? I could actually live with that trade...Brady TKA--OH COME THE FUCK ON...JT MILLER - Really ditto here. I suspect he's spent the past couple weeks debating whether or not to enter the NHLPA's substance use program either on his own or by direction from the Canucks. Staple is right again: Would require flipping Z...which I would do...but probably not the Canucks. As I mentioned, Rutherford gave JT a vote of confidence, and it's rare for a GM to turn around and move a guy after statements like that...Dylan COZENS - Like I already said, the trauma of moving EICHEL, REINHART and O'REILLY is real. There isn't a person in the Buffalo front office that would want to make this deal. Again, Staple is on the money: it'd cost LAFRENIERE, and that's probably a non-starter...Jonas BRODIN - So your team is at the top of its conference and firing on all cylinders. And you decide to trade your rock on D for the past decade? Yeah. Again, he's right in thinking it'd cost someone like MILLER, which would be a non-starter...Marcus PETTERSSON - Uh...wut? Yeah, we already have VAAKAININEN. We want another stork out there? No thanks. I wouldn't even want to think what the Pens would exact from this team to get his useless lanky ass...Tanner JEANNOT - Speaking of Dotard Brooks, that idiot had a giant hardon for this ECHL-graduate-free-agent-to-be. He would bring some size and strength the Rangers could use, I suppose. But level set here? The guy isn't that good. Two teams have bitten on the line and overpaid for the 'intangibles' he brings to the ice, and I wouldn't be surprised if this second one moves on once they see his contract demands. Hard pass, because the fourth line AIN'T what's broken...Keifer SHERWOOD - Pretty much the same thing with this guy, only he never went to the ECHL and isn't as big...He's not a bad player and probably a better fit than JEANNOT. But he's also not that good. Has his moments, when you go scrabbling to the program to see who the fuck he is...but they're fleeting. He's a bigger, more physical Colin BLACKWELL, only he doesn't play center. If he's the guy who will rescue the season, then the season is lost...did I miss anyone?!

TD: It was a sarcastic dig for you to reevaluate your news streams in other areas of your life away from sports. That's m explanation. Let's not go further there, let's keep it to sports, and the NR's. t/y

MF... To be clear, I am okay with trading Miller, we just have to get like value back. You can't trade a 24 year old for a 31 year old straight up.

And what about that is disingenuous? That columnists get to do whatever the fuck they want? Y'all don't like beat reporters because they don't 'call out' players and coaches and teams and whatnot. What you don't understand is that they CAN'T. While the sleazy world of sports journalism is rife with stories that toe the line between reporting and opinion, there still is a clear distinction. An asshat like Brooks is a columnist, and they're held to a different standard than the beats. In other words, that fucktard can sit back and lob bombs and never have to worry one bit. Not even when an NHL team calls him on his bullshit. He'll still work for that shitrag for as long as his rotten brain can continue to direct his withered geriatric fingers to tap out a couple sentences of gibberish.

mf - I never say never. Or rather seldom...and in this instance, there's a very strong likelihood DRURY shot him a message back explaining the brand of fucktard that is Larry Brooks...but I would say it's very unlikely you see these GMs dealing with each other in the coming months. I'm sure you realize how rare it is for a GM to publicly accuse another of tampering. Those aren't accusations traded lightly, no pun intended...but sure. If the Rangers are offering up LAF for a fifth rounder, I'm sure Ottawa is listening.

NYR'a are also rumored to be interested in defenseman Ivan Provorov and Marcus Pettersson.... if true, color me intrigued.

What an effin mess, the 'horn section is gone,' and Rhet's agreeing with 'stapleface." In all seriousness though, "Drury better not trade the youngsters." There's plenty of trade-value-equity in Meak-ah, Kreider, Smith, Lindgren, and possibly Vesey, Jones (who I'm warming up to, although I feel K'Mill can provide some offense if FOX goes down), Chytil still has an asterisk next to his name... So, we can retrench-remodel-retool and move forward.

KIS - re: not trading TROUBA, I totally agree...at bare minimum, they could've did what they did with CALLAHAN...though in that case, they ended up dumping two fucking first rounders...regardless...I guess the bright side...which I already mentioned, is that they officially have enough cap for LAFRENIERE and SHESTERKIN. Had they waited until June? Teams could have shut them out and essentially held them hostage to either eat half or a good chunk of his salary or require them to pay up with a prospect or a pick to eat the whole thing. But that said? I think TROUBA as a player and a leader is still valuable and that they could've waited and essentially gotten the same deal...This move was aimed at shaking up a team that didn't really need shaking up...what they need is a new coach...and we're going to see this unfold more in the coming weeks and...hopefully not...months. DRURY kicked TROUBA to the curb to save LAVIOLETTE. And what that dumbass doesn't seem to get is that there's little saving him at this point. Either the team has quit on him or he's just not a very savvy coach...maybe a little from column A and a little from column B.

JFC - So, you don't think bands/teams/employee groups (including teachers) of employees don't get in a funk for a various # of reasons and then start to play/perform like shit and/or not try as hard? Happens all the time..and it can be destroying.esepcially when they have been together for awhile..That's what's happening in NY..Their minds aren't in it and the physical effort isn't there from any of them either...from, Laffy to Panarina to Zbad to Schneider to Miller...So something BIG is fuckling wrong......I personally don't think it's a stretch for a collective to see How DRURY treated the Goodrow and Trouba situatons last summer and the Trouba Situation this season..AND the way Laviolette had managed players and ice..and, while maybe not a mutiny, it's a team wide quit a job a...And this is not saying they are right or doing it on purpose for a Giant FU...but but is what it is...and imwo, noi possibiilty for it to improve unless the big problems (Drury, Laviolette, vets) are jettsiones...To me, it's a perfect reason to get rid of the incompetent for 2 years DRURY as well as Laviolette...But Drury will likely get rid of kids like KAKKAO and MILLER first...Talk about the message that will send to the young players

Hey, look at that.... I actually agree with Arthur Staple for a change. Yes, If Chris Drury trades K’Andre Miller for Jonas Brodin straight up, he should be fired..... "Proposed Rangers-Wild Trade Could End Drury’s Career if Botched".... https://www.yardbarker.com/nhl/articles/proposed_rangers_wild_trade_could_end_drurys_career_if_botched/s1_16454_41390196

So, let me get this straight….the Rangers are pissed off at Drury because of Trouba & Goodrow so they’re purposely playing like shit to try to get him canned…and some Rangers fans think that’s justified? So, it would be OK to, let’s say, be a musician for a classical orchestra but the conductor is a cut-throat bastard so it’s OK for the violinists and cellists & trumpets and saxophones to play shitty to try and get Zubin Mehta fired? Or how about any other numbers of hypotheticals of average Joe’s working in an office….let’s say healthcare….they don’t like the way the company treats them or the people they insure so it’s OK for them to slack off, go home early, call in sick, etc? If this is what Rangers players are doing, fuck each and every one of them. They don’t run the fucking asylum!

JFC: Tonight's game is a good opportunity to scout BUF: https://puckpedia.com/team/buffalo-sabres

Cheif Wild-Eagle-Legz: Amos-quito? Paleface speak with forked-tongue! Over 'Brooks,' across streams, over mountains, off a cliff, these NYR's don't know, "We're-the-Fuc-Koweeze!

I’m pretty damned concerned about tonight’s matchup vs the Sabres. Both teams are struggling but the Sabres usually get up to play against the Rangers & they are a young, FAST team that is quick to the puck. If Rangers aren’t ready, quick & sharp themselves,it means BIG trouble!

Brooks just all but predicted the firing of the entire Ranger staff, top to bottom, a la 2000. So we got that going for us.

Mf keep losing to force a decision. Did you have any news problems firsthand? Did they misquote you? Weren’t you a famous Amos . You’re in the presence of celebrities here. At least in their minds. It’s called throw shit against the wall and see if it sticks. Some are full of it.

Uh Oh, the natives are getting restless... :->) What a load of disingenuous Bollacks. ""The only thing I hate more than dishonest reporters is dishonest columnists. I've had to deal with both in my life and while reporters at least have editors you can complain to, columnists are in an ivory tower apart from reproach.""

At least LB criticizes the Rangers unlike the rest of the spineless Ranger media...

TD: IF the Rangers put forth a trade proposal to OTT which benefits them, they WILL entertain it! They're professionals and know to check their emotions on the shelf and analyze the possibility.

The only solution now is for the Nyr to keep losing to make something happen. That should get Dolan’s attention.

VCP: The NYR's determined they were retaining SHESTERKIN, and it was probably decided last season. That said, and we here knew that we were under a 'cap-crunch' and a scalpel was going to be brought in to cut salary. So stone-face Dreary cut salary to the tune of $11,640,000 by moving Goodrow & Trouba. We might not like how he did it, but he did his job and on paper we are once again solid in the nets as the baton was passed from Hank to Igor... Now with the benefit of hindsight, Drury should have retained Goodrow for a myriad of reasons and not have chased after SMITH. But thats Hindsight!

Hospo no one can prove whether or not drury tried to get Tkachuk or if he had someone tell lb like it was a secret source. I’m sure drury would like a shot at getting him and pay through the nose for him like he’s doing with Igor. Dolan likes that. Maybe the truth will come out next year or at the deadline when he demands to be traded.

Larry Brooks doesn't bother me one iota...He's only National Enquirer type of entertainment..Not your cup of tea, don't read him......and..maybe he's just trying to light a fire under the candy asses of these bunch of schmoes?..Just trolling there,,,..All I know is one of the candy ass Ranger Beat reportes or anybody needs to write an article detailing Dipshit Dumbfuck, Dickweed Duplicitous Drury NHL moves and player handlings over the past two years from the KANE cluster fuck on....One soild Move--Quick..that's it ...He personally permanently shut the fuckling window in a one window room

Punch: Like you, my mind drifted to Connor McDavid this morning. I prefer your vision of the future better than mine though. Having watched this team endlessly make the same mistakes since the 70's, I'm thinking the Rangers drift further toward mediocrity this season and next. Rather than building a real team, MSG will be all in on signing a 30 year old McDavid (whose game depends mightily on the amazing speed of young legs), when he becomes available for the 26-27 season for a max 8 year term at a gazillion dollars per year. He and Shesty will share an unsustainable portion of the cap budget and we will suck at least through the early 2030's. How's that for optimism? Ratelle: I agree that Brooks hates the Rangers. He's going to new levels lately with his recklessly mean-spirited reporting/public comments regarding individual players. His reporting now oozes an undertone of malice.

After that game Monday night had to take a little mental and blood pressure break from the team...So, we all have our opinions, but any concrete rumors (if that is actually a thing) or facts coming out about the Rangers and their troubles/plans the last two days?....Well, other than the not so surprising blurbs about Mika the MeeK..Rangers could use a big hit or fight...OK, maybe it's me that could use that!

DREW - The only thing I hate more than dishonest reporters is dishonest columnists. I've had to deal with both in my life and while reporters at least have editors you can complain to, columnists are in an ivory tower apart from reproach. And unless they are literally libeling or slandering...both of which the threshold is REDICULOUSLY high, there's not much you can do other than point out how much they suck. BROOKSIE sucks so badly that he gives $5 hookers a run for their money. The dude writes shit to stir the pot. What bugs me the most is that fans don't deliniate between him, an OPINION columnist, and someone like Mollie Walker, who is constrained by fact. So that fuck says shit and it's taken as gospel...not only by fans, but by OTHER REPORTERS. The shit with TROUBA'S wife was what really disturbed me the most. It's like fine: You got a tip, it was partially right, but you fucked up the reporting. Own your mistake, don't blame it on an innocent person who has literally nothing to do with the Rangers, the NHL or hockey in general, other than that she's married to TROUBA. I hated that fuck before he did that. Now I'm on a crusade to point out how much of a shit-sucking scum he is.

LOL, I think y'all can SAFELY cross the Sens off the list of teams likely to deal with the Rangers...

I will also add that the Sens' response to all of this is really rooted deeply in hyperbole. I see what they're trying to do here, and that's create a rallying point at a time when they really kinda need one. That team shouldn't be hovering around .500, much less below it. Trying to get themselves a rallying point on the backs of the Rangers and their hapless, spineless GM, courtesy of Dotard Brooks and the team's total unwillingness not to call him out on his BS. Glad at least the Sens did.

Drury needs to go until then they won't show up. Then lavy as well. Last place looking good 1992-1993.

Evets: "IMO" Drury 'had' to bring in a RW in one last stab to get the Bromo's to play nice as a 3 man line. He did, they didn't, split them onto different lines until we trade them. This time on different lines will give them a last chance to prove (via their play & performance) that they want to remain Rangers.

Being a fan of this team right now is really... interesting? The games are essentially unwatchable. I'm tired of seeing these same disengaged faces on the ice. None of this is Reilly Smith's fault, but he needs to go, with the hope that they can recoup the assets they dealt for him. Additionally, as much as I have appreciated his game since he's arrived, Lindgren has to go. After that, they should call up Adam Sykora to inject some more speed and youth into the lineup. Panarin-Trochek-Lafrenier, Cyulle-Chytil-Kakko, Kreider-Zibanejad-Berard, Edstrom-Carrick-Sykora, Miller-Fox, Jones-Schneider, Vaakanainen-Mancini. Beyond that, my hope is that Drury looks to make long-term impact moves. If things continue to go south in Buffalo and they look to shake things up, I'd like them to check in on whether Cozens and/or Byram is available. There were some rumors of Mikko Rantanen are struggling to agree on an extension. I'd be looking there as well, trying to convince Zibanjad of the beauty of Colorado.

There are some here who are idiot clowns. They are not pretending, just think they can hide it. Peekaboo

I figure that with RW Gabe Perreault on the way up, we might as well target Wings that are just a bit miserable to play against in Jeannot & Sherwood.

Targets for 2nd line / 3rd line Wing: LAK: (LHS) Tanner Jeannot - VAN: (RHS) Kiefer Sherwood

Top 6 Centers: OTT: Pinto - BUF: Cozens (both are the right age to mesh with the upcoming core, and IIRC, both are RHS)

Some names of Defensemen to ponder & figure out whether or not we have a chance to acquire: BOS: Zadarov - NSH: LAUZEN - BUF: Samuelsson (all 3 are LHS) -- Please add names of candidates in another exciting adventure of, "Hu-Flung-Chit" & what-stuck!

CMark, I wouldn't waste my time watching these Rangers, nothing is going to change until additional players are moved out. jmnshfo-"snatcherally"

So who is this Rod Duguay chap I’ve seen mentioned on the wall twice in 2 days? So I’ll miss my 3rd straight Ranger game today! I’ve watched the Rangers while sitting by the pool in paradise before, but not gonna do it for this lot! I’ll check in afterwards! Aloha and Mahalo!

Who gives a sheet about what Brooks writes? I don't, unless he's helping ensure that the NYR Brass reads this wall regularly. "WE" have a team that's not winning, nor are they playing on a team level that can compete for The Cup. It's time to move Kreider, Zibanejad, Lindgren, Smith, possibly Jones. We should be able to obtain a Top 6 younger Center, possibly a 3rd line Center, a Top 4 LHS-D, and another LHD. NOTE: An injury to Schneider, Fox, or interruption to Mancini's play will leave us short a RHS-D. All the while we must monitor CHYTIL because he's still not out of the wood's health wise as far as I'm concerned. Again, this focus on Brooks because we have a "color man" among the ranks of Wallsters, is a distraction, we need to move forward with conviction.

Cagey GM that he is, Dreary is simply biding his time until he stockpiles enough cash to assure Connor McDavid re-signs for the highest possible figure in Edmonton. Not because he's stupid, but because he loves the game and knows that by having its best players playing in northern Alberta, Buttman's dream and vision of parity as an economic driver for future franchise sales is the real ticket to Dolan's continued prosperity. Plus, the Rangers won't have to worry about the Oilers finishing in a better draft position than the Rangers for years to come! It's a win-win-win!! Connect the dots, people. Don't worry, be happy! Joy Joy. Prosperity is right around the corner.

Tdchi. I 100% agree with you about Brooks. I have long suspected Brooks in his heart he dislikes the Rangers for whatever reason. Makes no sense his career has been fueled by him covering the rangers but nothing else explains what he makes up Rangers, but I believe it.

BTW, due to Drury's adoration for trading away picks for basically nothing, the Ranger have no 2nd or 4th round picks in the next THREE drafts. I'm telling you folks, just like I bitched and moaned 10 years ago when Nob for Life was flittering away picks like yesterday's bread, this will come back to bite the organization in the next few years. All fine and good if you win a cup, but that ain't happening anytime soon. Fire this incompetent piece of crap!

Now you wanna read some bullshit, take a gander at Stapleface's article today in the Athletic musing about deals Drury could pursue (to SF's credit he clearly states at the outset it's pure conjecture based on possible avenues Drury might pursue given the horrendous direction his team is now). Stuff like Miller + for $8,000,000 Chabot, Federic for KK, Provorov for a 1st, Tuch for either Perrault or Laf. What crap.

TD: Dare I say your absolute loathing of LB is tad obsessive and not at all healthy? DOH!

RF4L - No doubt. And really, I could see the Sens start listening to offers if he's not thoroughly locked up going into 2027-28...But now? Not a chance. Like I said...it would take a seriously over-the-top offer to get him...we're talking LAFRENIERE, GARAND, PERREAULT, SCHNEIDER and an unprotected first. There may have been someone musing about a deal like that in the head office...but proposing it would be just about as ridiculous as the Sens' saying they'd listen to offers on TKACHUK. Neither thing is going to happen...BUT...because Larry the Dotard is in the HHOF and sooooooooo respected...everyone buys what he shovels hook, line and sinker. I have a very difficult time believing anyone even loosely affliated with the Rangers' brain trust and especially the players themselves would say anything to this assclown outside of telling him to fuck off. And yet...people still believe him. But shit. I should stop being surprised by this sort of thing. Seems like you can make up just about anything and people will believe it. Especially the folks who read the NYP.

LOL. So we have a whole NHL franchise AND it captain saying Larry Brooks' report is full of shit. And not just a little full of shit...Like the Sens aren't even saying they were APPROACHED by the Rangers. The dude literally cooked up that story from thin air. He just pulls the pin and lobs the grenade. There was a time when I thought maybe...just MAYBE he actually DID have a source connected with the Rangers...thought maybe DAVIDSON might share a tender spot for him...but now I don't even think THAT'S true. Most likely, the moron's source is some pompous windbag like Rod DUGUAY, desperately trying to be relevant again.

https://www.sportskeeda.com/us/nhl/news-brady-tkachuk-breaks-silence-ny-rangers-trade-rumors-senators-owner-alleged-soft-tampering

https://www.sportskeeda.com/us/nhl/larry-brooks-throws-mud-mika-zibanejad-rangers-star-s-struggles-piling

The only way Tkachuk would be available is if he asked to be traded which isn't the case. Yet. I say yet because the Sens perpetually suck and sooner or later he'll get fed up.

Ref24 - It would take an act of god for TKACHUK to be made available. That or an offer akin to what the Flyers gave up for LINDROS way back when...The fact the Sens GM went the extra mile to emphasize how full of shit Larry Brooks' report was and that he plans to report the Rangers for tampering shows how serious he is about keeping TKACHUK. Unless something really melts down in Ottawa...and by 'really' I mean them plunging to last place...it ain't happening. Definitely not this year. Probably not until 2027, when his next contract negotiations get underway...So if Fuckface McDotard got that from the Rangers, then DRURY really is braindead. But more likely? He was making shit up again as he always does.

NCRanger - stevielegs just likes to pretend he's that idiot clown. Which, as you stated, is a little creepy stalkerish. But each to their own.

I'll re-post this for you, Rhet0ric, since you seem to have selective reading(emphasis added)...OH...and that Brady TKACHUK part? That was before the Sens accused the Rangers of tampering as a result of that asshat's column: WHAT I SAID: Rangers will need to trade TROUBA before next season, and they asked for his no-trade list early at the draft in case a deal came their way. WHAT THE FECKLESS DOTARD SAID: The Rangers tried to trade TROUBA, but he blocked the deal and the threatened not to report to any team, thereby removing all ability of the GM to work. And he did it because his wife had one year left on her residency and it's all her fault and he'll probably be traded this summer. LOL. So I'll wait now for Brady TKACHUK to become a Ranger. Gonna happen! Braindead Larry says it! Like GOSPEL!

“It has not done the Rangers’ on-ice product any favors, but the disconnect began way before president and general manager Chris Drury’s leaked trade memo, Jacob Trouba’s harsh exit to Anaheim and Ottawa’s accusations regarding The Post’s report of the team’s interest in Senators captain Brady Tkachuk.The Rangers have been shackled by self-inflicted mistakes time and time again. A lack of physicality, drive and cohesion has continuously hindered their competitiveness. There hasn’t been a spark to their game in way longer than the Rangers presumably like to admit. This is who they have been for almost all of this season. The question now is, who will they become? “…. That’s up to the coach and the gm to figure out. The players have already checked out. That’s because of the two headed monsters. Lardy has lost the room with assistance from wrong way druray who thinks he’s infallible with the personality of an old pair of worn out shoes. Dolan should give him a shine box and an apron vest for Christmas.

Although I loved trouba unsure what to do the cap hit. Drury is a moron is he fired yet

Any rumors involving Brady Tkachuck to the Rangers I approve.... for the most Part

Reading reports that players are upset with drury. Very pissed with him trading trouba and the plays are very loyal to trouba I told everybody he should have mot been traded. Tradi g a 30 yr old strong d man. He was hirt last llayoff. Smh. Wtf

Rhet. Please no to Stamkos. No to O'Reilly ( keeping hearing now), too. Over 30 too high priced and Lardiolette will play them over the young guys like he does with Z K and P. Need to transition the leadership to the younger players.

Stevie - I’m curious. Who are you quoting about Brooks? Is that you, quoting yourself because you ARE Brooks? If there is any poster that’s LB here I’ve always been led to believe it would be you. A lot of empirical evidence wouod suggest that over the years. Or maybe you’re just a Brooks stalker. Not sure. Anyhoo, if it is in fact you, how about a juicy Wall plug when you have a minute. Lord knows we’ve contributed to some of your material over the years. OAN - tomorrow should be interesting to see what happens with the Rangers. I’m guessing sit on his hands Drury does nothing. Dolan Will if Lord Sather orders the hit

Folks can we please limit the baseball talk here it's not Fair lololol we have a serious issue here and obiebenkenonie is our only hope.

Rhet: Another Starting Pitcher they should sign: https://www.mlb.com/video/what-makes-corbin-burnes-such-an-effective-pitcher

There are some whispers that the Predators are already having buyers remorse from all of the older Vet FA's they signed in the offseason. Stamkos could be interested in the NYR's. We could definitely use him in the locker room, but I absolutely hate his contract. Is he worth it? Is it worth paying someone to eat half his contract?

MF.... I've read today that the NYY's are hot for Walker and that interest is mutual. They should be able to do a shorter term deal as he is 33 and wants to go to a contender. They don't currently seem to be interested in Alonzo. Fingers crossed.

Rhet: you called for a Starter & the delivered one. There are two 1st Basemen Gold Glover Christian Walker a free agent from the Diamondbacks. Then there is Pete Alonzo of the Mets

I’m in Maui, so I’ve missed the last two disasters! On Messier: Remember this is the guy who according to many sources forced the Rangers to trade Zubov for more of his cronies. I question his judge of talent.

Houston we have a problem..No one except a few people wants to play . And the one that do aren't getting enough ice time. Isn't that a coaching issues???

Avery is a nut and a jerk often, but he was pretty accurate on this breakdown fthese plays https://www.instagram.com/reel/DDZn6jQxLQZ/?igsh=aDJrYmYwMzAzNW11

NYY's sigh Max Fried for 8 years and $218 Mil. It should be a really good signing for NY.

STEVIE... Keep poking the bear.. We took a lot of shit here for even talking about the Trouba story, even though many others reporters had corroborated it. And it turns out , that Jacob Trouba himself corroborated the whole thing as well.

“Larry Brooks is a sports columnist at the New York Post. Background Larry was honored by the Hockey Hall of Fame as the 2018 recipient of the Elmer Ferguson Award bestowed upon writers, "who have brought honor to journalism and to hockey." Brooks' plaque is displayed in the Grand Hall of the HHOF. Five times named one of Hockey's 100 People of Power and Influence by The Hockey News, Brooks holds the title of Senior Hockey Columnist and Rangers Writer for The New York Post while also serving as a baseball and tennis columnist during the summer. He is the author of the "Slap Shots" weekly NHL column Brooks has served two terms with the paper, first from 1976 through 1982 before rejoining The Post in 1994 after a decade as an executive with the New Jersey Devils hockey team. A native of the Upper West Side who attended the Bronx High School of Science and CCNY, Brooks has broken numerous exclusives throughout his career. Those include the Rangers' signing of Wayne Gretzky as a free agent; Mark Messier's free agent signing with Vancouver; Gretzky's decision to retire following the 1998-99 season; the Rangers' decision to rebuild at the 2018 trade deadline; Henrik Lundqvist's retirement; and the firings of team president John Davidson and general manager Jeff Gorton plus the hiring of head coach Gerard Gallant. Brooks, who has broken multiple labor negotiation-related exclusives throughout his career, gave Lundqvist his nickname, "The King," after the third game of the goaltender's career.”

Zibanejad has always been kinda emotionally interesting. I think he cares a lot. And I think he wants to be the guy. But the deeper he gets when he’s struggling I get the pathology. It’s hard. Nothing goes in and nothing is going right. But I’ve seen a few plays that I was annoyed that he was not paying the price and floating too much. He needs to get going. He needs to get that swagger back. I mean he had a saucer pass coming across, the goalie beat, had the net completely dead to rights and cracked the patent 1-timer 6’ high. He just looked at the sky. He’s sports psychologist worthy.

JFC31 - What I'm saying is that from a fan perspective, it's very easy for us to sit back and say player X is dogging it or player Y is avoiding contact or that player Z...no pun intended...is doesn't care...It's also easy for us to mistake symptoms of the problem for being the problem...a hockey team is like a machine. You can tweak and tune it, but if you start yanking pieces out, you may end up ruining the whole thing...likewise, there's also reasons why guys look the way they do...just like if you run your engine without oil or short a spark plug...you ain't gonna get good results. Does it mean the engine is bad? Or are its components faltering? Nope. Just you're running it in conditions that set it up to seize or misfire...same with this team. Look, I absolutely REFUSE to believe the subtraction of a couple bottom liners sent this club into a tailspin. In fact, they were playing FINE to start the season. What has happened over the past month and change has been their approach to hockey...just to illustrate...I can very safely tell you that if you flipped the Z line's minutes with EDSTROM-CARRICK-BERARD/VESEY and the PANARIN line's minutes with KAKKO-CHYTIL-CUYLLE that this team's record would not improve much or at all. You MIGHT get a couple good games before everything fell to shit. Why? Because the same problem would exist: Players getting over-skated and not being able to maintain the intensity level needed to win. Likewise on the D...only there, I suspect it would be even more catastrophic because MANCINI is still very green and really doesn't belong in the NHL right now...not skating 22-23 minutes...so if we're looking at guys like BERARD and saying MAN, the dude is putting in 110 percent...well...guess what? It's because he's sitting on the bench for 50-plus minutes...all I'm saying is that if you go back to the playoffs...let's say the series against the Canes...NONE of us were talking about a lack of effort. What has changed since then? Well, not much. It ain't age. And I kind of doubt it's conditioning. I also don't see this as a hard-partying group. And I can't say ANY of them were playing without heart even through that Florida series...So what's that leave us? APPROACH...Another example? Dude, if we're talking merit, the fucking PANARIN line shouldn't have seen ice at all last night. All three should've been scratched for being on the ice for four fucking goals against Utah...each one more brutal than the next...It's not to say there isn't a place for merit...rewarding guys buying into the system, punishing those who don't...but you realize you need to HAVE a system to start talking about merit. The Rangers have shit right now, and the system they're playing is god-awful.

Wait. We're listening to Larry Brooks again? You mean, the Larry Brooks who just got the Rangers in trouble with his bullshit rumor mongering? The clown who uses Reddit as a source? The guy who literally makes shit up? You mean, the guy who is so arrogant and thin skinned that he blocks hundreds of fans on X/Twitter for disagreeing with him? THAT Larry Brooks? Yeah, maybe consider the source, guys...

So another day after another pathetic lose is about to pass and nothing from Drury. Is he sitting on his crossed fingers hoping for a victory against the Sabres Wednesday? If they lose to the Sabres will that be the final straw? Will Dolans finally have had enough and fire him? Is Brian Burke hovering nearby?

JFC31, If what's LB says about ZShit is true, how in the world he could be a "team leader"?? Mr. Sensitive?? WTF.. No wonder leadership core is non-existent on this team. Lord help us.

God the things being said because of how poorly they sre playing You cant trade fox. Is he slow. Yes. Does he not shoot on The PP. Yes. Get some dofferent pieces and you will see a stud player again. He is one being put into a situation that is not for him he isnt there to body up players and clear the crease. He isnt even there to try and set up mika and bread. He is a tbinking player that can make things happen. Same with Panarin. Do t ask him to do what he isnt good at The man puts up 100pt seasons. Let that line just play. Its the bromance brothers.

In Spittin’ Chicklets pod cast, Brooks says Zibanejad is Mr. Sensitive…he reads about criticisms of his play, lets it all get in his head and destroy him! This guy is not cut out for NYC. He needs to play in a city that doesn’t give a shit about hockey. If he’s gonna let criticism wreck his psyche, then he can’t handle pressure and never will be able to.

TD - doling out ice time based on MERIT is not nearly as complicated as you make it out to be and should be very easy for an NHL coach even just using the “eye test” criteria. Why does merit have tombe this complicated, blanket concept applied to every member of the team simultaneously. If a guy like Cuylle is 6th in the NHL in hits, is near the top of the team in scoring and is doing just about everything right, then you REWARD him. Other players see it, notice it and then try to get the diaconato domthe same for them. Conversely, when a PP1 unit HISTORICALLY disappears at the worst possible times and/or for long stretches, you don’t keep running them out there for 90 seconds per PP, you give PP2 a CONSISTENT chance or change up the units and let them COMPETE for PP1 status. The unit that’s hot, gets the lions share of ice. If they get cold, next unit is given a chance. That’s MERIT-based coaching as opposed to, “I know they’re cold as ice but we have to let PP1 get all the PP time to let them get hot again.” Merit is Lafrenière outplaying Zibanejad to start the season but Zibanejad still getting more PP time even though Laf is scoring more than he is. I’ll float this idea again too….just use the Trochek Line & Zibanejad line as PP units and fill in with Cuylle, Fox, Jones, etc. and see what happens. If Tro Line can lead the NHL in scoring at ES why wouldn’t they be able to do it at 5-on-4?

RF…Agree with your plan but would most likely keep Panarin…I have a feeling Z could be stubborn and very tough to move…You could put him in the stands as punishment but something tells me he would then hang out with his family eating cotton candy…LOL

Drury, Coaches, Players, "what some of us loyal Ranger Fans think of your performance, effort, and attitude... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAp7FvZ5Opw&t=1s

TD- think you hit the nail on the head with that. I won't attempt to replicate what you said because I will butcher it but the team is not playing as a unit, forwards and defense each operating separately. It seems completely correctable.

There are really only two possibilities, the team has quit on the coach and gm, or the coach and his staff are lost in the sauce and source. There’s only one solution if over the next 14 days of 7 games with no real improvement, lardy should be man enough to resign otherwise get fired. He should be happy I’m not the gm , he’d be gone already. I don’t hear or see him doing anything about what the solutions are …. Bye….next….

Let’s be honest, Laviolette has coached, won, and been fired from every team in the NHL it seems. If HE can’t get into his bag of coaching experience and find what can work than go ahead and cut him now and bring in Quenville. And he can be next up in the spinning wheel of NHL coaches. Always next up. I sincerely don’t care. I do care that this team was very close to a SCF and despite the sheer onslaught physically they were enduring they were pretty close. To see them backslide like this is pretty shocking.

RF4L - Well, if we're talking about merit and taking ice away from guys who individually haven't earned it, then you're going to be benching pretty much three quarters of the team. I'd also caution that some of the mistakes you're seeing...some of the listless play...it's a result of HOW the team is being played. Look...and I think I've made this analogy before...If you take a Ferrari off-roading in the backwoods mud country, you shouldn't be too surprised when you leave the fucking oil pan and most of the engine on the first rock you encounter...The Rangers are being poorly coached right now, so it shouldn't come as a surprise that they are playing poorly. You get what you put in...and I'll go one step farther: You look at PANARIN last night. Did he earn 25 minutes of ice? Meh? Not really. Seven shots...well great. How many points did he have? End result is that the guy who skated nearly half the game didn't do shit. So we should bench him?

The Rangers are a good example of how a couple of small, easily correctable problems have carried them to the brink of disaster. The first and foremost problem is that LAVIOLETTE and the Rangers collectively didn't learn a thing from his series with Florida or how up-tempo play wins games...Florida, by their own admission, were taught that lesson very clearly by Vegas. They took it to heart and returned with a new approach based on an ridiculously aggressive forecheck...taking away space from opponents and literally neutralizing skilled teams. Can't generate offense when you can't complete a pass and can't get your speed demons to activate...WASHINGTON obviously learned this lesson...but the Rangers did not...LAVIOLETTE decided what they needed was more offense at 5-on-5...no disagreement there...but how he decided to do this was where the second problem came in...last year, the Rangers D was incredibly mobile. Those guys were pinching with three forwards deep ALL. THE. TIME. This season? They're not doing that at all. The Ranger D has SEVEN goals on the season. That accounts for just about 8 percent of the Rangers' total goals. Last season? They scored 16 percent of their goals from the blueline. Does that tell anyone anything? Was it all the lost of Erik GUSTAFSSON? Has MANCINI and JONES destroyed the offense?!? Of course not. The APPROACH is different. The D is no longer pinching. Why? Because the forwards aren't covering for them. And that's because the forwards are all going DEEP into the zone and they CAN'T cover them. But instead of crashing the net? They're playing the perimeter. They're playing 5-on-5 like they're playing the PP, and that's just a terrible approach. Not only are you literally HALVING the production from your defense, you're also not applying as much pressure in the O-zone. And that means teams can take more time with the puck. And that means teams can use missed shots to catch the D flat-footed...now put a pin in all of this for a sec...The other MASSIVE issues, as I continue to explain, is TOI...I say this time and time again: If you have a team that has 12 strong forwards and six strong defensement, you are at a SERIOUS advantage if you can roll four line/three pairings and keep your legs fresh. SERIOUS advantage. Fresh legs is how you create a relentless forecheck. Fresh legs is how you have a defender pinch in from the blueline to shoot from the top circle. Fresh legs is literally how you win games in the NHL...In contrast? Guys they have rubber legs simply CAN'T wage an aggressive forecheck and they don't. Tired players are also very typically mistaken for ones who float and don't care...because that's what you look like when you're gassed. That's what you DO when you're gassed. What else happens when you're fatigued? Welp, everything else goes to shit too. You hear PSAs about drowsy driving being akin to drunk driving? Well, it's the same fucking story in hockey. Your decision making is off. Your shot is off. EVERYTHING is off, because it's like you're playing the game after six beers...That's why it's batshit crazy to roll into the third period with your top scorer, one of your centers and two of your D men having 19 minutes in the book...there's just NO WAY those players are going to be anywhere near 100 percent going into the third...And then all off that compounds...the tired players don't forecheck, so it's that much tougher for them to gain possession. You have an opponent...and I guarantee the Hawks recognized this...that can essentially stay back, run a 1-3-1 trap and push ALL the skating right back onto the tired legs...and then you get what we got at the end of the game last night: A tired-ass group of eight players basically lobbing the puck back and forth and doing nothing substantively to put pressure on what for most teams would be a third-string goalie...So summing up? You tweak the game plan, and you start to lose. So you tweak it some more and play your best players more...and you lose more...then confidence comes into the mix, and you lose even more. At this point, the Rangers are a total fucking mess and really the only way to turn things around is a total reset...And that, friends, is firing Peter LAVIOLETTE. It's really the only choice now, outside of him finally figuring out what he had all summer to figure out.

RF, he didn’t give it up for no reason, his reason was he didn’t want to get hit, he avoids contact like the plague. It’s spreading around too, Will Cuylle is the only one who didn’t get the memo apparently.

A good coach would have zero problems defining merit and said coach would communicate that to his players so all understand (or should unless they're stupid). Of course it's not an exact science and all of what's happening in any particular circumstance on the ice, what the score is, at what point the game is at, and how the team overall is playing factor into icetime decisions. And some are beyond obvious. Z's atrocious play on the Hall goal (for no reason gives up the puck behind Igor then stands around in front taking no one) deserved a sit at the end of the bench for at least a shift and perhaps until the end of the period. But nope, there he was his next shift. That's not icetime based on merit...

JFC31 - "distributing ice on merit" is a nice thought and all...but your first step is defining what 'merit' is. How do you reward players? Based on goals? Shots blocked? Body checks? Back checks? Skating hard? All of the above?! It's a nice thought to reward those who are playing well and punish those who aren't...but you're also making subjective decisions inevitably, and you're going to end up punishing someone who deserves more ice and rewarding someone who doesn't. And you're also going to create a situation where you're putting an inferior team out there simply because you're trying to create a meritocracy. Applying this last night? Seemed to me that the line with the most jump in its step was the fourth line. Does that mean I'm going to skate them 20 minutes and bench the PANARIN line? Or Z? That's called cutting off your nose to spite your face.

Isn't Peca part of the existing coaching staff? Where's his input to right this ship now? So he needs to be the top banana to cause change? Booool Sheet

R47: They most certainly could do that coaching change now (of course with Peca agreeing with Drury to that plan) and then start working on moving out said players. I know it cannot happen all over night. But dropping Z from the PK and PP to me is an easy fix, albeit one that will likely make Z even more mopey than he already is. Hence why Drury needs to sit down with all of Z, K, P and T. Be forthright with your plan vs secretly working behind the scene to screw them over.

And if Lardiolette says he's onboard but doesn't manage his bench accordingly, he's gone!

RF4l: I agree with you. But I suspect it would work out better if they fire Lav, put Peca in charge as interim and wait to trade all those guys at the deadline when they will have the most value. Of course,that means this year is a bust, but it suspect it is anyway...

Sorry, meant to add a 2nd aspect to that plan: I'd sit down with Lardiolette before any conversations occur with any player and layout my plan. I'd ask him if he's onboard with it and prepared to support me on it and that support includes managing icetime in such a way that all of Laf, KK, Cuylle, Chytil (among others) are put in positions to succeed. If he is, he stays. If he balks, he's gone and replaced by someone fresh/new/capable and willing to get behind that plan.

To me the most logical and obvious change involves moving out the veteran leadership core and replacing it with some of the younger players. There are several of them chomping at the bit and most were high picks that came out of the rebuilding phase. And other than Mancini, all have NHL experience so it's not like you're handing over the reigns to a bunch of green rookies. Plus, given their numbers and experience, it wouldn't constitute a rebuild; instead it's sort of a retool. Of course, far easier said than done, especially when 3 of your veteran core are armed with lucrative long term contracts fortified by NMCs. If I was in charge, I’d approach individually all of Kreider, Zbad and Panarin and explain that my goal is to swap out the leadership core). As much as I like him, because he’s got a limited NMC, Kreider would be immediately shopped and sent to the highest bidder. Zbad I’d ask to waive his NMC (he can list certain teams he won’t agree to go to) and I’d explain if he chooses not to so be it, but he’ll be a 3rd liner with limited PP and PK duties and be stapled to the bench when a goalie is pulled. Panarin has a year left after this season – he’s still very effective so I’d prefer he stays if he buys into the new direction. If he’s not onboard, I’d ask him to waive his NMC (like Zbad, he can list certain teams he won’t agree to go to). You eat ¼ to 1/3 of his salary and you’ll get a fabulous return without a doubt. Trocheck I’d approach and explain my plan with the request that he buy in and stay on to assist with the leadership transition. Given what I’ve seen from him on the ice, I suspect he’d agree. If he’s not onboard, as with Zbad and P, give me who you won’t play for and I’ll shop you to the teams you will play for. Yes a very ambitious plan but one that AFAIC is desperately needed. Sather and Gorton initiated a deep rebuild several years ago and that resulted in the accumulation of some excellent talent. It’s time to let that talent take over the team.

Drury never gets fired just like sather ,....need to not go to games maybe then things will change.

Kind of makes sense to hire a vet-friendly coach since we first had a "veteran core". But this crap has to stop and Lav has to go since his bench management and system are not working. Hard to believe how far this group of skilled players has fallen this year...

Actually it started with AV and then has continued through 3 other coaches. It's gotta be a Ranger management directive, or at least desire and that flavours their decision in hiring head coaches. Incredibly enough, this extends through 3 presidents and 2 GMs. Is this a Dolans mandate?? Baffling!

JFC: Yep, posted about that a day or so ago: From DQ to GG to Lardiolette. This appears to be more than a coaching tactic - it's a Ranger management philosophy. FIRE DRURY!

Some stark numbers showing how bad the Rangers are lately: They are 2 and 8 in their last 10 with all losses occurring in regulation time, meaning out of 20 possible points, they've managed to collect a measly 4. In today's loser point game, that's truly pathetic. In addition, prior to this 10 game stretch they were battling for first place in the metro - if the Islanders win tonight they will push to Rangers into a non-PO position in the east. Truly an incredibly pathetic freefall that shows no signs of turning around.

How many fucking times have I said this in the last 6 years: “For it is time — well past time, actually — for Laviolette to distribute ice time wholly on merit and not on reputation.” - Larry Brooks. That’s almost word-for-word! These coaches are all hopeless vet-lovers!

PJ: I didn't think to look at ES vs PP SOG's, good point. Re Miller, maybe time to pair him with MANCINI?

E….Agree with much of what you said…However, Miller’s problem is not the wrong partner…He has been tried with everyone and now Schneider is stuck with him and that pairing is also bad…

mf…How many were on PP?….The line had no points with a ton of ice time vs the Blackhawks…Enough said…

Unless wrong way druray can actually get Tkachuk for a decent deal, Dolan should get on the phone with messier and see if he wants the job he was training for with his stepfather sather. And he should ask his president gm what his plans are including lardass. Otherwise they are back to being the ss minnow. Until they get back to basics and play defense as a unit of 5 especially in their own zone, this malaise will continue. And there’s no need for the $92 million dollar goalie who at some point might actually ask to be traded.

Show me teams that actually embrace bottom-up rebuilds and come out the other side with real success. Teams like Chicago and San Jose are stuck in massive rebuilds, and sure, they’ll probably see success eventually—that’s almost inevitable when you’ve got a generational player like Connor Bedard or an all-star-level guy like Macklin Celebrini. But then you look at Buffalo. This is a team that’s been picking in the top five basically forever. It’s like they’re in “year 10 of a 3-year rebuild.” And even now, with all that talent, they’re still struggling to make the leap. Or Edmonton, right? How many years did their so-called rebuild take? Over a decade. And even with two generational centers, they’ve still struggled to meet expectations. That kind of drawn-out rebuild just doesn’t work anymore. It’s not the way forward. The real model, at least in my opinion, is about being ruthless. You gotta be willing to cut bait—whether it’s for cap reasons, performance issues, or just knowing when to move on. Look at Tampa Bay. They dumped Steven Stamkos, unceremoniously. He was a franchise-level player, a two-time Stanley Cup champion, and the literal face of their team. But when the Lightning decided he wasn’t what they needed anymore or couldn’t afford under the cap? Bye-bye. That’s the kind of hard decision you need to make to stay competitive. If they can move on from Stamkos, then the Rangers can sure as hell consider moving on from Chris Kreider when the time comes. The key is knowing when to inject fresh energy into your roster. The problem is, no one wants to trade prime assets anymore. Outside of the Calgary-Florida blockbuster, when was the last time we saw a real needle-moving trade in the NHL? Maybe that changes when the cap goes up, but the league’s still gonna operate on a scale-of-economy basis. There’s so much young talent dripping into the NHL year after year that teams can hold salaries down and let prospects develop into stars. The Rangers don’t need a full teardown, and they definitely don’t need some kind of reactionary rebuild driven by anger and disappointment. What they need is a facelift. This is a team that’s built to score, especially on the power play. They can give up three goals and still win because they’ve got the offensive firepower to outscore their mistakes. But they’ve become too reliant on the power play. Last season, their 5v5 scoring wasn’t nearly good enough for a team this talented. That’s a problem. And it’s gotten worse. The PP is now dead in the water and theyre being exposed. Defensively? It’s been a mess for a while. They lack those simple, physical, shutdown defensemen who push opponents to the perimeter, make the game hard, and play a no-nonsense style. Justin Braun was the last guy who even came close to that, and he wasn’t exactly a top-tier defender. The current blue line is way too focused on skating and pushing the puck up ice. It’s all transition, no grit, and it leaves them exposed when things go the other way. Take K’Andre Miller, for example. Hes everybodies favorite target flavor of the month. His development feels like it’s stalled over the last season and a half. Why? Because his game—creative, dynamic, and forward-thinking—requires a partner who can let him be that player. Miller is at his best when he’s regaining possession, skating the puck up ice, and setting up plays. But when he turns the puck over, who’s covering for him? Nobody. And so, he’s forced to play more conservatively, which kills his creativity and confidence. His play in his own zone is getting worse by the day. It’s not that he’s forgotten how to play hockey—he’s just not set up for success. This has been a recurring issue for the Rangers. They’re always chasing big-name talent instead of addressing actual needs. And when things suck hes guilty of trying to make bad plays. And when things are all out of sync thats when apathetic plays show. Ryan Lindgren is another example. He’s a warrior, no doubt about it, but his effectiveness next to Adam Fox is starting to fade. Fox needs a big, stay-at-home defenseman who can let him work his magic. Otherwise, you’re wasting what Fox brings to the table. The solution here is simple: fix the defense. Get some guys who specialize in shutdown roles—players who can complement the offensive talent you already have. If you solidify the blue line, you’ll get a much clearer idea of what this team actually needs. Right now, the Rangers might not have the elite top-six depth they’d like, but a better defensive structure would still make them way more competitive. At the core of all this is the team’s overreliance on goaltending. That’s a shaky foundation. And honestly, the more I think about it, the more I realize this stagnation was inevitable. If you’re leaning on your goalie to bail you out every night, eventually it’s all gonna fall apart. You can’t win that way. Your goalie is your final defense, not your first layer. Show me a Rangers team that’s hard to play against defensively, and I’ll show you a team that racks up wins. Show me a Rangers team that’s all offense, no defense, and a brick-wall goalie, and I’ll show you a loser. Because when the offense cools down—and it will cool down—you’ll get exposed. Good teams, when they’re struggling, lose by a goal or two. The Rangers? They’re getting blown out. That’s not what good teams do. And if Laviolette, the so-called taskmaster, can’t get this team back on track? Get rid of him. Go get Quenneville or someone else who can light a fire under this roster. This is hockey. It’s not rocket science. The structure is important—faceoffs, power play, penalty kill, breakouts—but beyond that, you have to let players play. You can’t coach the creativity and skill out of them. At the same time, you need guys who specialize in the tough, grinding parts of the game. The Rangers don’t have enough of those players right now. There’s too much star power and not enough mucking. I think Maloney has touched on this before, even if he didn’t say it outright. And honestly, the way some Rangers fans are reacting right now? It’s a little over the top. But there’s truth in the criticism. This team needs balance, not just more stars. And if they don’t figure it out soon, they’re gonna waste the talent they have. End of rant… Airport edition

So will another shoe drop today? If so what us that shoe made up of? I wonder if Dolans has reached out to Brian Burke...

I wish we could blame Sather for all of this, but we can't anymore. Those were the days.

“The Rangers have been shackled by self-inflicted mistakes time and time again. A lack of physicality, drive and cohesion has continuously hindered their competitiveness.”….”“Could be fatigue, could be mental, could be anything. Regardless, it’s unacceptable. We’ve got to be better than that. You’re not going to win hockey games if you can’t execute. We haven’t talked about that much, but tonight, execution was clearly won with the puck. We couldn’t make five-foot passes or connect on a 20-foot pass or coming out of D-zone coverage or in the offensive zone, just couldn’t connect on our plays.”… the definition of a clueless coach…“It’s frustrating,” Laviolette said of the boos. “I get it. Deservedly so. When your pace should be at a higher level and your execution should be at a higher level, I get it. It’s frustration.”…. Will he ever admit to doing anything wrong or just continue to blame the players? …. He’s basically emotionless and doesn’t understand that they are following his example. He looks like a deer in the headlights…

Lardy said that they didn’t execute in the second and third periods. I think that they are executing him. He’s toast. He has no answers, solutions, or change of plans. He continues to do the same thing over and over and expects different results. Is wrong way druray on Christmas vacation? Did he send out another memo telling the gms we are closed for the holidays? Is he coach shopping? He should be. The Nyr have quit on him. There are 2 choices, fire the team or fire the coach. If he stays in denial on the Nile he will continue to play cya. And he was so excited about signing Igor. Does Igor have a 3 day period to change his decision? They can trade Fox like they traded leetch, and just go down the roster until at least half the team is gone. The better solution is to name one of the coaches as the interim head coach, preferably peca over ( don’t bet the) housley. The hockey gods are turning up the karma for the gm . …. Remember knoblach….maybe they sent a memo to Dolan….

“If Peter Laviolette expects things to change from his perch behind the bench, then the head coach might want to do something differently”… the coach watch is officially on

Another thing? And one of the MAIN reasons I say LAVIOLETTE has lost this team? They are playing a style that is utterly not working...and the more it fails, the more they double down on it. They are overthinking every goddamn play and trying to tic-tac-toe goals...They're overpassing. They're trying to dangle guys. And what they really need is to get the puck deep and go to the net and gut out goals...This team has become a turnover machine...they'll make five or six passes in the offensive zone and then take a shot that misses the mark, goes wide and leads to an odd-man rush...Also? Their giveaways over the past three games have been BRUTAL: 41. That is a TON of giveaways. They're normal in any game...but you balance those out by...surprise, surprise...getting takeaways...against the hapless Hawks, the Rangers had 16(!!) giveaways and...wait for it...TWO takeaways. TWO. That to me says the Rangers' forecheck was nonexistent...and that tracks exactly with what I saw on the ice...again...COACHING. These are things that should lead to guys getting benched, not sent back out there and played 23-25 minutes.

It's interesting to look at the Hawks in comparison. Very disciplined among the forward. Spread as it should be. The only guy who skated more than 18 was BERTUZZI, who had 19 minutes. This is a first-year coach who just took over the bench and he school LAVIOLETTE.

PJ/mf - TOI is ABSOLUTELY the problem here...Yeah, KREIDER and SMITTY Jr. skated a few minutes less...but those minutes went to PANARIN and TROCHECK...the fact that EDSTROM, with 6 minutes of ice, got more shots on net that TROCHECK, with 23 minutes of ice, should say it all. This team needed speed, muscle and above all, SHOTS ON NET...and the line that delivered all of that was kept pinned to the bench after the second goal, which had next to nothing to do with them.

The thing with 'disinterested' is that it is a kissing cousin of exhaustion. 'Disinterested' is what professional athletes look like when they dig deep and there's nothing there. And when it comes to this team, you have eight guys that are gassed, getting quite literally more than a third of the game in ice. Just think about that for a second...This was a game where it was SO PAINFULLLY EASY to skate four lines. The Hawks have a popgun offense, their D isn't that good and they have an AHLer in net. ALL the Rangers needed to do in this game was roll four and go hard on each shift...LAVIOLETTE actually started the game giving some ice to fourth line and including third in the regular rotation. But the first PP threw everything off and he came back basically rolling one-two...Logic here? You beat them up with PP1, and then overwhelm them with lines 1 and 2...don't give them a chance to breathe...But here's the problem: Those guys are already gassed from skating a third of the game on Sunday. So you blow their legs in the first, go down a goal in the second and now desperation sinks in. So LAVIOLETTE shortens his bench even further...He was throwing the PANARIN line out every other shift by the end of the game, basically rotating it with the Z and CHYTIL lines...so basically 2-1-2-3-2-1-2-3-4...2 being the PANARIN line. The utter and flat stupidity of this is staggering...Next: No dount, BOTH K'Andre MILLER and Adam FOX are struggling...well...WHY THE FUCK ARE THEY SKATING 22 minutes?...The absolute irony here is that the guys most willing to take that kind of beating with ice...the youngest players...are getting the least amount of minutes...Again. If you want your team to have pop, PLAY THESE GUYS. I've been watching EDSTROM and BERARD for years now, and there is positively no reason either guy couldn't play 12 minutes in the NHL per night...likewise, with MANCINI. He's not where I think he should be, but he's a good enough defenseman to skate 17 or 18 minutes...ESPECIALLY in a game against the worst team in the league...Will CUYLLE has been the best Ranger forward through this slump and he gets only 14? Again...THIS IS A COACHING PROBLEM. There are poor decisions being made behind the bench, and until that changes? The results will be exactly the same. Either LAVIOLETTE wakes up and stops trying to sledgehammer a circle peg into a square hole or they fire him and let someone else figure it out. Every game since the Florida series he's gotten progressively worse with his utter and just dumbfounding reliance on eight players. There isn't a team in the NHL that can win like that. The closest would be the Oilers and they have the best player since GRETZKY in the lineup...and they still failed.

PJ: I was focusing on pursing out the TOI because that theoretically keeps the players most rested game after game throughout a season. Live & die with the clock calling the shots. At this point in time, I'd go with a 2:1 ratio of LHS/RHS, I don't care what combo was the hottest line combo in the league last season. That means: Kreider/Trocheck/??? - Panarin/Chytil/??? - Zbanejad flanked by any two LHS Wings, which may influence which Wings wind up on the other 3 lines. Example: IF Zbad is flanked by Cuylle & KaKKo, that leave Smith & Laffy as RW's on the other 2 lines..... Panarin/Chytil/Smith might be interesting & effective. Kreider/Trochek/Lafreniere as well... These don't work? then readjust, just keep the 2:1 RHS-LHS ratio at least for the next couple of games, but try something different. This makes sense to me. jmo-n

mf...Kreider and Smith had less time at ES tonight than Cuylle, Chytil and Kakko...The Trocheck line had crazy minutes...Z should have been sat after the first goal....He should be off the PP all together in my opinion...

VCP: IMO there is no RW that's, "The Answer." The first answer, which was called for going back to last season, was/is to have Kreider and Zibanejad on different lines at even strength. Mabe if we post it often enough, some schmuck will get the message up to the players, coaches, & GM. K & Z can play together on special teams, NOT at even strength! Next, the clock, the clock, the clock. Gee Wiz, beginning immediately, each top 3 lines starts with 16:00 TOI, 4th Line starts with 12:00 TOI. Answer / Coach to the Clock, "inanimate object." Adjust TOI based upon special team play during the game. It should be easy enough to track, the teams are afforded Tablets to review play, track the TOI dynamically throughout the contest... I think this is the place to immediately start (and has been) before warming up the next Traderator...

If both got canned which ain't happening I would feel better still time to turn things around.need the right GM/president and we don't have it. Only ZBAD and kreider know the truth plus they never got them a winger that's on Drury , Smith ain't the answer.

My middle daughter and I are in NYC for a quick Christmas solo daughter-dad getaway. She’s 15 and somehow love the NYR (the first boy 1 of my 3 that caught the bug). Went to both games. Boos raining in at the end of the game tonight’s. Something is clearly off with this team. Mishandles, misfires, just total dysfunction across the board except Shesty tonight. Not even sure what the remedy is at this point tbh. Despite the two losses she loved going to MSG for the first time, and second time. I thought surely we’d win one of these. I said maybe we should have saw that Broadway play. She said, no Dad, I still had a really good time. Keep things in perspective my Ranger Wall family. Especially during this time of year. There will be good times again, if not for us, our kiddos lol. Happy Holidays from NYC

If Bruins can fire Monty we can fire Lav. We can’t trade the whole so the coaches have to go. And I’d bet my house that Zbad would never agree to a trade, it’s too nice being rich in Manhattan. The team is an embarrassment, no pride, no heart. Dolan will force something to happen.

Defense is poor fox is awful and miller. Lindgren also is average. Eh we can do this forever.. Drury won't get fired . Lavy maybe but I doubt it. It's the players and the coach ...

BTW I view this place as my Ranger family. Yeah sappy and overly sentimental but it's true. You all help keep me relatively sane!!!

Jfc31 it's really a cluster fuck..I agree keep , Schneider, maybe miller, cuylle , laffy, kakko, edstrom, heck maybe Fox has to go what is wrong with him still injured ????? something is wrong. Rebuild now !!!no one can coach this team not GG not lavy, it's the core .

RF4L…..LOL! I was going to drop the DESPO name after writing that! The thing I love about this site is all the cool dudes I have met here over the years. You Colorado Mark and HOSPO at the top of that list!

It’s weird. You had gallant who didn’t coach he just threw guys out there mostly veterans. He gets whacked when the players all say they need somebody that’s really gonna coach them so they get somebody that’s really gonna coach them and they go two games away from the Stanley Cup finals. And now they’re performing like this? Personally, I think it’s the Goodrow and true stuff from the Somer that has caused this problem. And nobody has stepped up to lead, and that includes true, but who was playing like he was sulking. His lack of effort on so many plays was outrageous. Third and fourth lines are the only ones that are putting out the effort. Panera is still special. He’s still gonna get his points people bag on him for not working hard. I don’t agree with that but like with anybody else that does what he does it’s about results. He’s on about a 100 point pace you can’t replace that with somebody else. Drury is getting beaten up over the true thing, but other guys have done that Tampa Bay has done that more than once. The big one to remember was when they did it with Ryan McDonough. They told him to accept the trade or they’re putting them on waivers and he went to Nashville. I am all for the players, having no trade lists and no movement clauses, and all of that but then when the clubs use whatever tools are available to move on from somebody their vilified I don’t think that’s right either Now we’ll see when we get the free agency and such if players don’t wanna come in play in New York. Everybody including Henrik and other ex players consistently rave over how the Rangers treat their players so that is never been an issue until perhaps this off-season. There was no way that the goalies were going to be able to keep up with what they were doing in the first month of the season. The really puzzling one is Mika. How can he have fallen so far so fast. It’s looking like he’s 36 years old instead of 31. He has no confidence. It seems like since he became a daddy everything is gone. He spends all the time mugging for his little ones in the glass during warm-ups and then doesn’t do anything at all during the games. At least last year they didn’t score as much as in the past, he certainly prevented goals but this year he’s the king of minus is on the team now getting to Fox opponents figure out the move that these guys have Fox was never a great skater and he’s playing with guys that can’t get the job done Miller and Lindgren. Lindgren really seems to have lost something off of his game, but keep in mind The forwards don’t backcheck they constantly are giving up. Odd man rushes makes everybody look bad right. True is sad last year that this would be the last year for this core and he was absolutely right about that.. Jury is not been perfect for sure but he’s not been the disaster that everybody’s making him out to be. I was glad he didn’t trade true but to Detroit because Eiserman always hoses Druery and getting rid of Truba and getting rid of the cat hits of both Truba and Goodrow were very good moves for the club and then he gets just stuck inside so the Rangers are going to have good goalies for the next eight years at least Henrik and then Shesterkin who’s ever had a run of goalies like that. Anyway, I’ve I won’t say I’ve lost interest, but it’s been very difficult to watch other than the first few weeks of the season, someone said earlier that they never saw a less effective 131 neutral zone check and I agree with you whoever said that it’s absolutely dreadful. All they do is give up odd man rushes on it and the opponents easily break it so, now that we don’t have a team in Arizona anymore I actually have to travel just to go to a road game so I initially was planning to go to LA in Anaheim but maybe I won’t now we’ll see how things go. I’m not gonna turn all negative here yet. It’s frustrating but it’s still December and they go on a street the second half of the year all that matters is that they’re in the playoffs and how they’re playing when they get there and as you saw last year they have a goalie that can take them a long way so I’m not going full negative yet

Hospo, I agree. Drury IMO went from mediocre,let’s wait and see, to he is just awful, total crap, and clueless. He has to go with Laviolette. And ASAP. Doubt that happens because Dolan probably hasn’t even realized hockey season has started yet.

And yeah, I was the one that said they had to play thrugh this crap and come out better..but that was befor Dumbfuck Drury's moves last week..the total quit job ..and the embarrassment of the past two days

NYStranger - Trades will mean jack shit as long as the Nero of this situation keeps on fiddling as his house/city Burns down..Laviolette and players will go, but it won't be enough..but, you have to start somewhere, anywhere..but yes...anybody but Cuylle, Kakkao, Chytl, Igor, LAFFY (though he sucks ass right now) and Schnieids (becasue he's still a favorit..Any of the rest can go in a NY second

This is so puzzling besides being disgusting to behold. This team should have been building on last season, but instead has totally quit on the season. Any game this season that didn’t come easy they folded like a Rod Dugauy leisure suit. Is this becasue the team realized what was needed this year to win and did not get that in the off season and is pouting? Is it becasue they saw what happened to Goodrow and Trouba and that effected them? Is it because they don’t think the coach is the right fit and are rebelling? Is it because all the vets are overpaid and have no accountability? Are they all substance abusers? Are they purposely throwing games to pay off a debt to a Russian mobster? Is Drury just that bad? LOL. Whatever the case this team is not worth watching unless you like to savor soap operas. The sooner the firings/tradings commence the better. And they fucking better not sacrifice youth over these POS vets or I might really become an Islanders fan like Drew!!! I can’t believe I just typed that…

Kreider and Fox could be moved easily…Z would be difficult because of the term…Also, he could refuse and very well may…

andrei/vcp - where to look to make changes? We had the best offensive line in the NHL last season. Although they’ve not reached that level this season and although individually they are not without fault, that’s not where I look. Cuylle looks great, Chytil (when healthy) is a difference maker, Kakko is not a “problem.” So, what does that leave? It leaves the Zibanejad line and the defense! THAT is where I’d go to shake this team to its literal core. How long have the Bromance Bros. been together? How many times have we seen these CRAZY waves of incompetence and team-wide lack,of effort over the years? Aren’t they PROMINENT common denominators? If Fox has a physical problem with that knee then someone better fucking come out and say it because HIS performance is inexplicable me…the lack of jump, the loss of dynamic movements at the offensive point, the LAZY LOOK of his play is JARRING in comparison to how we’ve seen him play in the past. He almost looks,like an older superstar whose age has suddenly caught up with him….but, he’s only 26-years old. That’s how far down his level of play has dropped. This team may need a CRAZY trade that sends out a great player for a HAUL and some HEART…maybe it’s Fox, maybe it’s Miller. Lindgren is who he is…trading him doesn’t bring back a difference-maker IMO unless he’s part of a package. Yep, a BLOCKBUSTER I think is the only way out of this. Drury made a HUGE mistake giving Zibanejad a NMC because he doesn’t have the heart and w and Kreider have a persona not conducive to winning a Cup.

Not a consolation price, but Rangers have a real star coming up in Gabe Perreault. Kid is going to be special.

Hospo, they aren't worth watching now, so what's the difference? No one says start the rebuild of the rebuild, but there is a lot good vets you can get for cap space of $15 mil (ZShit and Kreider) that will help a new coach to build better defensive pairs, checking line, better 4th line. Add $9 mil, if Fox is traded and we are talking about real options here.

Speaking of a new coach, will he have balls to switch ZShit to a wing and move Kappo to the middle?

Andrei - Rangers aren't worth watching if they quit on this season and the next three....but...they still ain't quitting yet after overpaying igor...if they punt, they should start with dealing panarina and fox, and get something worthwhile back....then deal the other schmucks

Jfc31, I agree, I would do a complete house sweep. To me, if the player is not part of the solution, he is part of the problem. Out of all vets, would keep Trocheck and Panerin though. hat's me, some will disagree. Rest, could all go, for all I care.

Personally, I much rather see it is happening now and there is time to clean up the house, vs a playoffs 1st round sweep, cause this is what waiting for Rangers, if they somehow to stay .500 hockey rest of the way and grab the last WC spot. They will get embarrassed in the playoffs. This is not a Cup winning team. Not by a long stretch.

PJ/Norton - That's what we need!...a dus briver..not all these pansy passengers!

Good thing they got rid of trouba goodrow and sent rempe down. Now nobody os expected to hit. Its easier to lose that way

Jfc31 right on brother. It ain't ZBAD, kreider, panarin or fox..this core is finished. Or just keep Panarin and build a new number one line or call it the cuylle line . Oh well that was already suggested. Last place is around the corner.

Hospo buddy. Shout serenity now. I saw your curse fest outburst. Hahaha. Sound like me

Andrei of course Laviolette's lack of accountability and horreddous ice time management are cause for firing but, imwo, if the team is fucked in the head or quitting, it's against Drury..though Big Country will be Drury's 2nd sacrifice...then Kakkao

Bob I think the GM has lost the team as well as the coach..You keep either, I think they are fucked..but 1 gone is better than none

Worthless fucking team. I guess i should be happy i couldnt wstch with it being on NHL network again. Fucking channel carries their games all the time. Why dod i sogn up for espn+

Hospo, I don't disagree. It starts and ends with Lavi. Not trying to defend Drury, but it is on coach to put a system in place and hold players accountable. Having a game plan that 100% depend on goalie to keep you in a game, is it a really playbook anyone can defend?

PJ - I agree with you on Panarina being part of the problem..with his too often lazy and selfish not 2-way play..but he can still excell offensively unlike some of the others

Well, I switched to YouTube TV a few months ago and of course they don’t have NHL network. So it irritates me whenever the Rangers are on NHL network I can’t watch and that also means I wasn’t able to watch either of these last two games. As of this moment, I’m feeling like I was blessed. I don’t think I’ve ever witnessed but looks like a coach losing a team so quickly. Now I was aware that the first year is always Lavie’s best year. But geez. These guys get out worked every night. This whole thing has gone down the tubes awfully quickly.

rf4lm, speaking of Panerin. As much as Artemi is fit, playing him every other shift is just insanity, but Lavi does it. So that's that. Panerin should be playing 16-18 minutes a game to stay effective and productive.

Andrei. Fair enough but your buddy P is also part of the problem. I know you'll disagree so let's agree to disagree on that.

Buffalo fans are booing, they blew another 3 goal third period lead. There problems will be over soon as I think the Rangers play them soon!

If Drury is waiting on a trade he has loaded, he needs to pull the trigger because it looks like that’s what these guys are waiting for…it’s like they are completely rattled. The PASSING by the Rangers, particularly in the 3rd period, was some of the worst I’ve ever seen. Zibanajad is LOST. Could it be that Drury approached him about a trade and now he’s completely downtrodden? Or could it be that he thinks his butt buddy is going to be traded so he’s in preemptive mourning? There was a play in the 3rd where he had to have known that a hard wrap-around the boards was coming in the offensive zone and he just didn’t get there to the left wing boards…he went towards it but was way late. Absolutely awful. This team has me completely stumped….I’d usually have something I could point to to try and explain why a NY Rangers team is not playing well but a drop off like this when they should be PEAKING as a Cup contender just doesn’t make any sense to me. It’s a malaise that is inexplicable and I’m sick of blaming the coach. This team is SOFT and as someone said last night, without Trouba all,they have left is “quiet leaders.” That doesn’t work….a team needs an EMOTIONAL LEADER….a guy who is the HEART of the team and if there is one on this team, he hasn’t stepped up. All I can know for sure is this….its not Kreider, it’s not Zibanejad, it’s not Fox and it’s not Panarin. And that is “the core”….and many have been saying this team is rotten at the core. At this point, I’d entertain trading FOX…no joke. Drury has to do a HEART TRANSPLANT and change this team. Incant think of anything else to do….he can’t keep blaming the coaches

Yes, Z and Kreider are causing our entire F to play poorly…Especiially Miller…Also, Laff is so traumatized by watching them he now sucks…

andrei - The bigger problems are the head of the stinking fish..Dickweed Drury and Laviolette have turned them into a laughing stock...Letting too many vets suck and suck and suck and suck..nd keep playing...and they play pussy hockey

rf4l, that's said, if Miller end up looking for a huge payday, by all means, trade him at the draft. Will no loose sleep over it.

Hey maybe Lardiolette wants to be fired. Surely he's financially set. He's 60. He's won a cup. He's got what 3 more years on his deal. He's been there done that in terms of a team with aging entrenched leaders that to break means a ton of tension/stress/strength and simply doesn't want to endure that. Whatever it is clearly he needs to go and go NOW. Unless James Hagen is the target!!!

rf4l, I'm not a Miller supporter, but yes, I do like Panerin. You can win with Panerin. You can win with ONE line playing finesse style. You can't win when the whole fucking team plays like that. Every damn line.. I would like to see what a good coach can do with Miller. There is just too much talent there. No point of giving him away for pennies.

Hospo, trading Troba was like treating a symptom without fixing a health problem. Obviusly Trouba had to go. But the main problem starts and ends with 93 and your favorite, Kreider who plays like he no longer gives a shit. Unfortunately, Fox seems to be part of don't give a shit club as well.

Yep. As the losing pressure mounts the vet stroking coach ups his flawed strategy. Lol.

Ooops..Drury And Fat Fuck COuntry are the ones that should go..and prancing, skipping Meeka too...Fuck, Pouting Panarina and Mentl Midget MIller also...and....six others.....damn.What an effin disgrace...

PANARIN skated 25 minutes. MILLER skates 23. TROCHECK and FOX skate 22. LAFF and Z skate 20. I can’t even tell you guys how stupid that kind of bench management is against a young team that has…or had…18 points on the season. LAVIOLETTE has lost this team and his fucking mind. They can’t fire him quick enough.

You know it’s bad when you see Buffalo highlights and are jealous of the effort.

Andrei…You never said one thing about Miller the entire game…Not on that play or any other…

Somebody please throw their helmet!!! Anybody but Meeka..who throws like a fucking girl....How the hell do you lose to CHICAGO??? Way to read your team DIPSHIT DRURY....He's the fuck that should be gone..then him..then Meeka..but none will go

Andrei..Stand corrected..Seeing Panarin and Miller fuck up the play threw me off…Of course you never mentioned who actually turned the puck over…

If I was coach, I would sit every single motherfucker from PP1. They are ALL terrible.

PJ, you need glasses, dude. Who do you think was behind the play? Watch the replay. Unless there is another one 93 with much needed haircut on the team.

Andrei…Z and Kreider weren’t on the ice for the breakaway…I know it is disappointing…

AYFKM?????? Just came back from dinner and these bunch of schmoes are losing to CHicago?????

Laviolette is going for more offense and he goes with ZShit and Kreider and Panerin.. Just can't make it up...

TD, agree, the entire top 6 are playing like they don't give a shit. The d is another story. I think they care, they just suck!

Been taking the easy way and it is not working…No repercussions so they continue to do it…Now I am not sure they know how to get out of it…

Gee, scoring on those two PP would have helped, right Lavi? But you know better. No need to change. PP is smoking hot..

If they come out hitting relentlessly in the third as they should to avoid losing to the other worst team in hockey, they should win easily. The over-under on that happening is formidable.

MC - those two are getting too much ice, but damn, they pale in comparison to the PANARIN line. Like I keep saying: LAV is basically skating eight guys, and the dudes with energy…who are actually playing pretty good…are sitting on the bench. The Rangers look slow because those eight guys are gassed.

Folks don't realize missing Goodrow now trouba does something to the heart of a team. Yep they should be faster but they aren't moving that's mental..First line blows .

Hey Zmouse look at what your teammate does despite having to worry about concussions ending his career: https://x.com/DaveyUpper/status/1866294412504137868/video/1

I’ve said this before but this is basically the same team as last season. How can we be playing so different? The whole mindset of this team seems different.

I don’t disagree the coach has lost the team but where is the pride? Or the fact you get paid millions to play a sport. Unbearable to watch, there is no reason for the Rangera to lose to the much less talented Chicago.

PANARIN, TROCHECK, and FOX have each skated more than 15 minutes through two. PANARIN has had 16:19 in ice and is on pace for almost 25 minutes. Do you all know how crazy AND stupid that is?!

Teams realize Rangers aren’t difficult to play against and gain confidence as the game progresses….Laviolette is on his way out for sure…Doesn’t matter where you assign blame…

TD. Yep. Been saying the same thing for a month now. How long will numb hands Drury continue to play with his pecker. He sux too

They should be embarrassed but look like they don't give a shit. Who wants to bet that fat fuck gives Z and Kreider and Panarin the most ice time again? Oh, ya, I forgot, they deserve it! I agree coach has to go. My little grand daughter says the coach plays Z and Kreider too much. She would make a better coach!

fotiu22 - again, LAVIOLETTE has lost this team. He can’t motivate them and they’re not doing anything to suggest they’ve got a strategy.

Said it yesterday, a loss to either Blackcocks or Burfallo and Lavi should be spending time polishing up his resume. I really don't remember seeing Rangers playing worst. All they do is ruining around like headless chickens..

If we need to wait for another trade there will be no playoffs. They are not listening to any coach. He does not motivate them at all

The PANARIN line played ZERO defense. They pretty much just hang out waiting for the puck to pop up to the top of the circle. Even TROCHECK isn’t getting down low. Just letting the Hawks wander around the zone with no coverage. This is terrible hockey by any standard.

I mean such boring, uninspired hockey. They are just going through the motions. Something’s gotta give and soon.

andrei…They have not played good at all…And guess what?…The rest of the team is playing like crap also…Your focus is on them only which is my point…

PANARIN doing it all himself?! Well shit, he’s already skates almost 15 minutes and it’s not even the third yet. This LAVIOLETTE bench management is even worse than GALLANT.

If you don’t think LAVIOLETTE has lost this team, then the only other choice is that he is a terrible coach. He needs to go. Bigtime.

PJ, sure. Both ZShit and Kreider have played great, last game and before and I'm simply picking on them. You got me, dude..

BTW in the vein of misery loves company glad to see the board finally start to realize Milller is not a top 2 dman. Problem is his value is plummeting to be a bottom pairing.

Andrei…Every game it is them and nobody else…You are obsessed to the point of being ridiculous…

PJ, right cause I'm hating on them.. Nothing at all to do with how ineffective Kreider have being, right? Cause God forbit we see a former 1st overall on PK, or 2nd overall for that matter, cause neither one ever did in the past, right?

Miller can’t play with Trouba….Not good with Fox….Put him with Schneider and that will work….No it is him and always has been….

I know why the fat man can't be fired by Dreary, but how in the actual fuck does Houseley still have a gig?

Laff’s poor play is on him…Has nothing to do with players not even on his line…

Andrei. Could be. It's definitely continuing to retard KK's development. Qi think part of Laffy's issue is he sees it but is unable to do anything about it. Remember this kid captained many of his trams and led them. Watching the vet stroking crap must be beyond frustrating for him. But because he's a character guy brought up to keep your head down when you're not in charge he says nothing

Andrei…Many on the Rangers are a bigger threat?…You are a fan of hating these two players….Nothing else….It is pathetic…

rf4l, refreshing to see ZShit right back on the ice the next shift, while Kappo was collecting splinters when he turned the puck over last game? When people ask what could be wrong with the locker-room, how can there not be a divide between kids and vets?

Kis, you are talking about Lavi, a stubborn old-timer coach, who thinks he knows better. So lines will stay the same regardless how much it makes sense to break them apart. I'm talking about simply take advantage of the home ice that is offered to head coaches. Why not use it??

Watching the replay on the Hawks goal. Zweep gives it up behind the net then goes in front and covers no one. How can this cheap be continually tolerated? His issues started LAST DECEMBER offensively. This year especially lately now has extended to his play away from the puck far too often. I am just baffled.

PJ, were is the right word. Were great. There is plenty of players on this team that should be on PK over those two. Remind me again when was the last time Kreider drove to the net?

andrei…Z and Kreider are probably two of the most dangerous penalty killers in the league…

Andrei, why not move zbad down to the second PP and let him take faceoffs. Laffy can take his place on the first unit

Gee, no ZShit and no Kreider on PK, driving to the net instead of passing. What a concept. Imagine that...

Something I will never understand. As a coach, you have home advantage as far as line changes. You are stubborn fucken coach. Fine, keep the same lines, but why not start 2nd unit against top PK unit??? You will than have an advantage after 1st comes on 45-50 seconds later? Your 2nd pair lacks on faceoffs, why not have Trocheck take 1st faceoff on the 2nd unit? Simple, no?

Trying to watch this team is extremely difficult right now. They just aren’t fun to watch and playing like a bunch of individuals. I’m not sure how you don’t blow this up by either a major trade or firing the coach.

Kevin Weekes: In speaking with sources, I’m told @NYRangers have had no internal , nor external conversations around the @Senators Captain Tkachuk.

Hospo- maybe we don’t want someone to stand in front of the net…might bother the goalie. I give up.

PJ - it's lie sticking needle in one's eyes...Keep working, you might draw penalties

What is it with this long cross ice pass for a poor angle shot?….Don’t get it…

KK needs to stop wtching Panarina and those long EW passes..but then had another fine set up

Z giveaway. GOAL! This after a Smith giveaway. Line should miss a bunch of shifts. But won't.

Berard replacing Vesey on the 4th line. Will he get over 7 minutes of icetime? I say no.

Brady has been as blank faced as possible. The fact that Ottawa is pretty much a black hole for your career like it was for EK who literally was the best 2-way defender in the NHL. Would Brady approve a trade to NY if asked? Probably. Not that he’s been asked. And if I was Ottawa I’d have no interest in trading Brady. But other factors matter. And I really think that finally it is obvious to all that the Rangers can score a bunch of goals on you and then tell you that they’ve got an Igor so you can’t score as much as they can. That’s been the way. And here comes our PP of doom. Now? 5v5 they’re shit. Defensively their crap. Like one of the worst in the NHL level suck. The PP has dried up and Igor and Quick spend games are under siege. Drury knows this. What can he do? Who can he get? What can the Rangers afford? But they don’t at minimum get that defense addressed hope is absurd. I’m sure at some point the offense will improve but with a defense this porous? Poorest execution of a 1-3-1 I’ve seen at the NHL level in a while.

ALSO: In regard to Kreider: he's been struggling with back problems for most of the season. He still needs a few games to straighten out his game... In regards to trades: I don't know what Drury is planning, but unless we're getting Brady Tkachuk back in a deal, WILL CUYLLE needs to be in the top six. Ride him until he goes down in flames. If he doesn't, all the better for us. Put Smith on the 3rd line or until we get someone better. Our biggest need right now needs to be a LHS Top 4 defenseman. Look under every rock. JMO, of course.

In regard to Yesterday's game. I totally agree with Steve Valiquette's take on it. I don't think Quick had his best stuff either. I also don't agree that this team has quit on Laviolette. What they're going through now is mostly mental. Make a mistake and they're just waiting for the other shoe to drop the of thing.... After tonight, we'll be 1/3rd of the way through the season... The next 5-6 games will of course be telling. I don't think we've played our best hockey yet.... In regard to ZBAD... I think some here need to stop just hate-watching him. Sure there was a chunk of the early season where he just all out sucked, but over his last six games he has been playing well. He's doing a lot of the little things again. His line has given up only one 5v5 goal in the last six games. In regard to Z on the PK: I don;t know how the heck one can blame him for that goal., If his stick doesn't break, he clears the puck from the zone. What is he then supposed to do with no stick on the PK? It pretty much gave SEATTLE a 5-on-3 advantage.

I was pushing this one about a year ago, and makes sense to dust it off again: The deal I'd look to make? Pull Nico STURM and Luke KUNIN out of San Jose. Both are UFAs. Both are physical. Both are good defensively. KUNIN has some pop offensively. STURM is good at faceoffs...Granted, I wouldn't move KAKKO in a deal like that unless there was more to it...Maybe those two and Filip BYSTEDT for KAKKO and Sam CARRICK? That would let you potentially move CHYTIL to wing with KREIDER and Z...then you could have KUNIN center CUYLLE and SMITTY Jr., and STURM centering EDSTROM and VESEY. Team gets tougher, for sure. And they'd get a good center prospect.

JFC31 - Not that I'm disagreeing, but GEORGIEV will always have a special place in my heart for cleaning DeANGELO's clock.

Georgymhas always been a malcontent and a head case….just not a nice person or good team mate.

Haha I definitely could see the Rangers moving KAKKO. TBH, he's really the only guy they can move to get anything of value...of course, what they get back will not be of the value of KAKKO...and let me say this: There's no move I can see this team making that will change where it is at with their coach...But were I to call the ball, I'd say KAKKO's time with the Rangers is either nearing or at an end.

One of my favorite lines from the movie “the Player”, Tim Robbins who runs the studio asks, “are the rumors true?” Of the rumors that he may be being replaced, and the other guy says “all rumors are true, you know that”

Wild... Right now, there are just too many trade rumors to even mention. Kappo Kakko seems to be the NYR soup du jour.

Haha remember when fans were absolutely FREAKING OUT that the Rangers didn't get more for GEORGIEV?! The Avalanche essentially gave him away and paid to do it with an NHL-ready prospect...or a second rounder...depending how you want to look at it, I suppose.

Geo along with a 4th, 2nd and Kovalenko traded to Sharks for Blackwood, Smith and a 5th.

LOL...if ANYONE out there isn't fully convinced of Dotard Brooks making shit up, you gotta read the Ottawa Citizen story: "While a Post report on Friday suggested the Rangers were working on a blockbuster deal to acquire Tkachuk as part of a trade that would involve defenceman Jacob Trouba, a well-placed source told Postmedia, “It’s total bulls***.” Another source called the Tkachuk report “garbage.” The Senators have no intention of dealing Tkachuk — to New York or anywhere else for that matter. The expectation is that Andlauer will address the issue with NHL commissioner Gary Bettman and deputy commissioner Bill Daly at some point during the session that will wrap up on Tuesday."

Trade details: To #GoAvsGo : G Mackenzie Blackwood F Givani Smith 2027 5th Rd Pick To #sjsharks: G Alexandar Georgiev F Nikolai Kovalenko 2026 2nd Rd Pick 2025 5th Rd Pick

So, the Ottawa Senators owner, Michael Andlauer is now accusing the NYR's of soft tampering with Brady Tkachuk. What is soft tampering? That's when a team intentionally leaks a story to a beat writer to let a player know that that team is indeed interested in him. to be fair, the NYR's have used BROOKS a lot over the years to do just that. We did it with Panarin, we did it with Trouba, we did it with Fox, etc. The Sens owner is pissed of continually having to talk to Tkachuk because. other teams keep thinking he's available (for eg. STL and others)... but, it's pretty damn hard to prove it... ALSO.... the have been rumors that Brady's not happy and that's what's started this.... Stay tuned. I'm sure the drama with continue at the GM meetings.

So the Ottawa owner has publicly accused the Rangers of 'soft tampering' in reference to the Brady Tkachuk to the Rangers rumours. What an idiot. It was LB who floated that rumour, not Drury or anyone else from the Rangers and the Rangers have fired back calling it an irresponsible accusation and referred it to Buttplug and company. Sounds like the Sens owner has his knickers in a knot because his team stinks. Again.

Mf lardy going to be sleeping with the fishes. That’s one way druray can get rid of him.

Legs: are you bringing one of the 7 fishes to Lavys for Christmas? Get me an invite, I'll bring the Gefilte and horseradish. Merry Xmas from the Lavy's :-)

I wouldn't use "best" to describe anything the Rangers did or anyone of their skaters. They fucking sucked yesterday. Full stop. The people who sucked the worst were the top seven...FOX included.

So in the world of wall speculation it sure seems like the Nyr have quit on lardy. And his boss wrong way druray wrote his secret memo because he knows that. I don’t believe it was done just to trade Trouba. This will all come to a head before game 42. Because it’s the Christmas giving season, hockey takes a back seat to shopping. These two so called leaders are not being followed. Paying fans are gifting their money to msg. But they might be saved from having to pay for playoff tickets. It sure looks like it will be 31 years and counting.

Half ass play during the last minute of 2nd period Laf did not hustle on the breakout not tipping the puck over the red line, called Iceing on next face off they score go ahead goal late in 2nd period. After his Big contract he is stuck spending money vs playing hockey. OTOH Fox was the best Ranger yesterday. Many players just STANDING around in 3rd period. Bench them if not putting in the effort at both ends of the ice. Don’t be a Pussy Lav.

Rhet0ric - re, JT MILLER...suffice to say, we can agree to disagree. And I firmly disagree that he's some sort of 'cancer' in the locker room. I've never heard that. Not even from the Rangers, where he wore out his welcome with management. His problems aren't on the ice and they're not in the locker room. They're off-ice. I can say I don't think anyone will mistake him for being this magnanimous figure for teams...but cancer? Nope. That ain't it. He got a ticket out of New York for shit he was doing off the ice, and they pegged him as a problem waiting to happen. His time in Tampa was cut short by the cap. Plain and simple. And they didn't see him as a viable part of their core...Vancouver? Dude, they've liked him there well enough there that they traded Bo HORVAT just to get him that contract...And then to have RUTHERFORD come out and state, pretty unequivocally that his absence is related to MILLER, personally, and not related to a trade...that they are NOT looking to trade him? That's not something a GM says when they're working the phones. Could he be shopping him secretly? Yeah, sure. Anything is possible...it's just not likely.

I feel overwhelmingly compelled to keep saying this: ALL ROADS LEAD TO THE COACH. I simply don't understand how the media isn't picking up on this...I mean, I get this idea that players have to own their performances...but man, you gotta fucking coach. If a guy isn't responding. If he's giving half-effort. Sit his ass. If, as VALLIQUETTE says, the guys are 'in position'...I don't for one minute believe they are...and they're not 'doing what they need to do...' when IN that position, then what the fuck? If you're the coach, it's YOUR JOB to correct those players or fucking sit them for not listening...but what I see is a coach who is quite literally coddling his veterans. The very small example was Z. He knocked his ice down when he started struggling...but a couple games later? It's back...Again...if the only reason we can get is that these guys aren't listening...well...again...IT'S ALL ABOUT THE COACH. I guess you can blame some of it on team culture...but again...that is set by the coach. You let guys glide, cruise and do this zero-defense shit...you get what we saw on Sunday. You can bring in an energy guy...and they did with BERARD...but it ain't gonna make a difference if the top seven players on this team aren't listening to the coach...LAVIOLETTE either needs to learn a new trick or he needs a pink slip. Bad news time? He ain't doing that, and he ain't getting fired. He will be the coach right up until they miss the playoffs...and then he'll be canned. That ain't much of a consolation for us fans. Another season lost.

When doesn't a player represented by Scott Boras not take the highest offer? I love JUAN SOTO as a player but this contract is insane. Personally, I think contracts in MLB should be limited to 10 years max, 15 years is just stupid. The NYY couldn't match the METS deal exactly because they have a lot of other payroll on the books that would make the penalties cost prohibitive... In another sense, that may have been their saving grace. They have other needs that they likely wouldn't be able to address with this deal on the books. Another starting pitcher should be first priority, IMO. Best of luck to Soto on the METS.

JFC31/mf - Yep, I've been saying this about FOX for a couple weeks now. He has been terrible. He's not just getting beaten to pucks. He's getting smoked by dudes who aren't even that fast. Like I remember two instances over that road trip where he had a good three or four steps going back to the puck and got beat to it. At least one of them lead to a goal. I'm a little concerned, at this point, that he never healed since his injury last year...and that could be a MAJOR problem for the Rangers, because a healthy FOX...the Adam FOX that was dominating last season...we're going to need that gut to go anywhere.

Yeah, Laf has been playing poorly and getting slammed for it but worse has been Fox. I say that because 1) he's older 2) he's in the middle of his big contract 3) he's (arguably) part of the leadership core, albeit probably more on the outside vs the inner circle 4) he's done it before. 5) Lindgren's struggles are affecting him (and his struggles are affecting Lindgren). Some are speculating he's still hurting from last year. I don't believe it's that. I think like Laf (and others) he's being dragged down as part of the collective and that's including how the team is coached.

re: SOTO, I don't make it a practice to say anything about the boring-ass sport of baseball, which I swore off many moons...was right around the time when the Mets unloaded the Brinks truck for a fellow named Bobby BONILLA. Think they JUST stopped paying that dude. Glad to see the Mets have learned from past mistakes!

JFC: Fox certainly isn't performing $8.5million p/y better than Jones. Does Fox also wear the "A"? Time for the players wearing the "A" to step up of surrender their "A" I don't care if the rudderless team has anyone designated as an assistant Captain or Captain. They can all look each other over until a light goes off in their heads. "Meak-Ah" gets paid $23,287.67 Dollars a Day! Kreider: $17,808.22 per day. Fox: $26,027.40 per day. Forget for a moment about what they get on a Per-Game Basis. Per Day and they can't bring a winning at all cost attitude to the cause? Phuck them. How much does the 6'5" Miller want?

E - SPOT ON with MEssier. Just to put a this in a bit more focus, MESS has been retired for two decades now. He had 10 years with the Rangers and 12 with the Oilers. NEITHER team has been able to...or to my knowledge...even EXPLORED bringing him in as a coach. That's two franchises intimately connected to this guy...one where he landed FOUR Stanley Cups...and the other where he broke a goddam half-century curse...And in 20 years, not a whisper about him being a coach from either organization...Well, let me tell you why: Because MESSIER doesn't want to BE a coach. Plain and simple. Not interested. Full stop. We can discuss WHY he's not interested...some of it likely has to do with his ego being too big to be an assistant at the NHL level or go to the AHL to cut his teeth. But TBH? I think it goes even deeper than that, because an organization like the Oilers has been desperate enough for a coach in recent years that I could almost guarantee that if MESS had even a hint of an inkling of being a coach, Edmonton would've made it happen...WHAT WE DO KNOW: MESS was very interested in being a GM a while back...and he got involved in some weak-ass capacity in the front office right around the time GORTON was hired...When GORTS got the AGM role, MESS left and hasn't looked back. So this weird notion some fans have that, at 63 and with a nice cozy cushy position periodically making fun of PK SUBBAN with ESPN, MESS is gonna suddenly want to hop behind the bench? Yeah. Maybe think that one over a little more clearly...

I’ve said this before but the one guy I really don’t understand at this point….and the one having the most negative impact on this team…is Adam Fox. I mean, what TF happened to his jump, to his dynamic point domination in the O-zone. Think back to the kind of moves he used to make when he had the puck at the point…he’d fake opponents out of their jock straps with various techniques….sometimes spinning with the puck, sometimes a fake stride to the right/left and then exploding in the opposite direction, sometimes a quick dribble of the puck before making a move…all these moves and more were done with SPEED and they not only faked out the forward who was charging him but they also got the other team to “puck watch” and open up lanes, which Fox would then use to thread sharp passes to team mates. Where TF is THAT Adam Fox. I’m tellin’ ya…Fox is the biggest difference in this team’s struggles. He was their pick transporter and their offensive general and now he’s just ordinary

and re: Z, Boston would do that in a heartbeat. And if the Rangers did that? You could kiss any hope of the playoffs goodbye. ZACHA is a third-line center. Z, as much as folks here give him shit, is a top-six center. The B's have been desperately trying to get ZACHA or COYLE to step up as their second line center, and neither one has been able to take that next step. Y'all like whipping on Mika...well, you ain't seen nothing if you want to swap ZACHA in for him. As I said with PROVOROV, he would be an epic whipping boy here. Would bring us back to the days when the Rangers tried to make Bobby HOLIK a top-line center. Of course, he actually took the body...ZACHA? Meh...

mf - you're in dreamland there. Again, COZENS ain't getting traded. Just forget about it.

re: KAKKO, dude. If you watched Sunday's game and your takeaway is that HE was the guy that got the wheels falling off...or that he's a symptom of the problem or...well...anything...you're either not watching the rest of the team or you're giving a free pass to the top eight...er...well, seven now...KAKKO continues to perform how he has been used: Third line checking forward. He gets 13 minutes a fucking night. This is the second-overall pick who was a can't miss in the draft...Same EXACT issue that LAFRENIERE had until suddenly one of DRURY's wonder coaches thought to play him in the top six. Again. We come back to coaching, coaching decisions, and ultimately, coaching problems...KAKKO should've started the season in the top six. He should've been there last year, FFS. But we have coach(ES) who decide it'd be better to get someone outside of the fucking team to fill the top-line RW slot. The Rangers have done literally everything in their power to make KAKKO a bottom-line grinder, which is a type of player that he doesn't even have the limited skill set to be. This kid should be used like a top-line offensive winger...and he's SHOWN he can do this...and yet we now have a third coach just utterly unwilling to play him. Broken record time: THIS IS A COACHING PROBLEM, NOT A KAAPO KAKKO PROBLEM. He's done everything he's been asked to do and more.

RF: Will "Meek-Ah" accept being traded to Buffalo? I hear they need a Long-Haired-Disc-Jockey... We can start with Cozens coming our way and build out the trade to include more players in both directions

jerry_garcia - FOX the best Ranger yesterday? Am I reading that right? Dude. That guy has been TER-RIB-LE. Slow as fuck. His stats are a reflection of him being a secondary assist merchant. His defense has been deplorable. If there's one major difference between this season and the last, it's him.

What do our "pseudo captains" wearing the "A" have to say? They are Zibanejad & Kreider.

Even the Mets' acquisition of Mr. Soto has failed to distract from the stark reality facing my fellow victims of Rangerlovitis. Face it, the window has closed. Yesterday's energy and jump lasted exactly one period. They don't like getting hit. They don't like to battle for puck possession. The don't like getting back on D. They don't like to shoot without sixteen east-west passes in search of a highlight reel. We are back to the days of the Broadway Millionaires Retirement Village. Again. Stick Check City. Two months 'til pitchers and catchers. Again. Ugh. An endless cycle for three decades and counting.

NYR +/- Leaders: Cuylle (+10) then Kakko (+10) at 20th & 22nd best in 'the league, followed by Chytil (+9) 30th best in the league.'

Rangers now tied (with Drew's Islanders!) for the final WC spot. The Drewlanders have played 3 more games, however, but you gotta win those to make it meaningful!

Soto is the very definition of mercenary. Fuck him. Great player who played hard and could handle playing as a NYY but when is enough enough? There has to be a screw loose in his head. I wonder if another team offered 5 million more if he would have taken that? I wish him and the Mets lucks. LOL they are going to need it.

Uncle Bob: "time to wack Stee-Vee's boy Dru-Ray?" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvNbhrOEXt4

Mf they tried..”Owner Hal Steinbrenner, general manager Brian Cashman and the Yankees offered Soto $760 million over 16 years, according to The Post’s Jon Heyman, but he ended up signing with the Mets for 15 years, $765 million and a $75 million signing bonus — the largest contract in professional sports history.”

“The goals were the chances, that was it,” head coach Peter Laviolette said. “We had the pieces in place and when it came down to the point where it had to be defended, it got loose. Definitely not what you’re looking for, you’re in charge of a game 3-1 and like I said, the chances were the goals. We could’ve been tighter and better in those situations.”…. New vocabulary word defended. My question is who on the Nyr is having a good year so far ? It sure doesn’t seem like really any. What or who does that point to? When they can’t keep opponents to 2 or less goals it’s a lot harder to win. When giving up 6 or more which has happened more than a few times, they have to score 7 or more. Keep up the good work lardy with your bullshit line of a work in progress. Say a prayer lardy that the $92 million dollar man can keep it to 2 or less. Maybe you and wrong way druray can pray together. You should both get on your knees and take up begging if your prayers fall on deaf ears.

Glad the Yankees didn't throw all that money at Soto, they can sign 3 solid players for that kind of money starting with 1B Pete Alonzo.

Hey Igor take up baseball…. https://nypost.com/2024/12/08/sports/juan-soto-signing-with-mets-on-15-year-765-million-contract/

NEWFIE - I rarely do it, but gonna have to disagree with you on KAKKO for THIS YEAR..I think he has been a pretty damn good 2 way player all year.. And has taken one play off in 20 games..not 100 like Laffy, ZBAD, TRO, Panarina and Kreider..Is he the scoring bull that we want? No and that is the disappointment....but a damn good young player on a damn good young line....Still, my bet is Dipshit Drury jetisons him before anybody else on this sinking ship..and it will be a big mistake...jmwo

Sometimes I want to ban Messier from Rangers lexicon. This is a guy who I think earned all the adulations, love and everything else Rangers fans gave to him. But how quickly we all forget how unbelievably abysmal he was as the years wore on. And it got progressively worse.

I have been saying messier needs to be here for awhile already..H e not only was captain, but traded for captain and won the cup , the real one not the plastic device lololol..He knows what is needed. There is a reason why no one wants to be captain here. Ownership is awful, spend what you want, be competitive that's allllll. Now we suck....batter up

MF Bergereon was an intense playoff performer. ZBAD has intense hair are you joking???

Can we repay Boston for the Park / Ratelle -- Esposito / Vadnais trade? --- Zibanejad & Lindgren (and we eat 50% of Lindgrens Salary $2,250,000 for this season, and we eat $1mill of Zibanejad's Salary for the remainder of his contract 5.5 years) FOR (C) Pavel Zacha & (LHSD) Nikita Zadarov.... Come on Boston, Zibanejad is your Bergeron!

Crazy ass prediction (and I mentioned this recently): If Dolans fires Drury watch Brian Burke be his replacement.

Wrong way druray was the guy who recommended Dairy Queen. Which points to his consistent conclusions that it’s either the players or the coaches. He will never admit to any wrongdoing by himself. Which is a shame and points to a lack of understanding leadership and taking responsibility for whatever happens under his watch or recommendation. I hope he goes home early to enjoy Christmas. And say his prayers that Dolan doesn’t come to that realization and fires him.

Hospo........on Kappo ( "does nothing ") Kakko being the scape goat ? He is not and should not be considered as such. However, he is still a big part of the list of problems with this squad. This non relenting waiting for him to all of a sudden start producing and becoming a real good player for us is rather like waiting and hoping for your pet cat to turn into your pet dog. good luck with that ,cause neither one is gonna happen. And what makes it worse for me is that when he does actually "do something" and makes a good hockey play (which is what he is paid for as an NHler to do ) like a chip along the boards,a backcheck,an assist or god forbid ,score a goal, people go "see, I told he was good " That's what bugs me the most. Scape goat .........NO ....just part of the problem.

Where was the "leadership core" as usual no 20, 93, 10, 23 that's to start. Another soft, low intensity game with no emotion. This is not a playoff team. The issue is they are not going to rebuild after giving Shesti a huge contract to stabilize this "team" going forward.

Yes. He inherited DQ who apparently he had a significant role in hiring. And fired him. So under his watch is DQ GG Lardiolette and if he fires the latter the 4th coach. I will agree can't blame him directly for DQ but the next 2 200%. If he does replace Lardiolette he'd better try a different route with the 4th coach in his tenure.

4th coach in 4 years under his watch? His first hire was GG. He fired Quinn a month after taking over but Gallant coached 2 years.

Stevie. I think Dreary Drury is afraid to fire his coach because he hired him, it's 16 months after that hiring, and doing so would be a 4th head coach in 4 years under his watch. In other words it'll make him look bad. How ironic given that this shitshow is on him anyways. They lose tomorrow to the 32nd place Hawks will he be left with no choice????

Hospo. Your KK question. Yes. God forbid he dare do anything to Z and K. K had one of his classic no show games and this when one of the leadership group has been unceremoniously jettisoned and with the team down and desperately needing someone to step up. Just zzzzzzzz. Unacceptable in my books. Not that's it's all of him. The Trocheck line dazzled at times in the Seattle end but were horrendous in their own end. Z typically missed an open net when it really mattered. What a freaking mess.

Jerry that sure points to a team that has been quitting on their coach, who is asleep at the wheel. And a gm who is excited to pay a goalie $11.5 per year for 8 years while changing the sign in the window from open for business to closed until the dust bowl settles, and seems to be overlooking the coach’s role in this clusterfuck.

What a lazy bunch, laf played in a cloud, Fox, the best Ranger today. Warren Haines in attendance oh well!!!! Bench ZBan. All them playing with no chemistry, no heart, no hustle, play ZBan much less and off the PK. He keeps on making major blunders. They played like they had no equipment on, no hitting, just d stoning around and going thru the motions.

Well, just watched it..what a fucking defensive meltdown by the top 4 D-men nd the top line....Of course they come back when Seattle stopped playing the grinding game..but not enough...My question..Is KAKKAO the scapegoat for hiw lazy backcheck and sent packing for being on the ice for his first goal against all seasosn???..Or do they trade the top line, Miller, Schneider and Lindgren??? This team is majorly fucked in the head pansy ass tem and with no 4th line also.. and only likes to play open ice bull shit

TD. Yep but with this coach? Not gonna happen. Dreary Drury won't fire him? Fire Drury too.

Most frustrating part of it all was to listen to VALLY speak about how they were in position...I don't necessarily agree...but just doing the wrong things...Like, OK! EASY SOLUTION: If you're out there, and you're NOT doing what you're supposed to do, then you're not going back out there and you're getting scratched next game. Simple as that. Second step? Start the next game with third line. Roll 3-4-1-3-4-2-3-4-1-3-4-2 for the first period of the game...I would also start rolling the D like this 3-1-3-2-3-1. And I'd tell everyone on PP1 that they're now officially PP2. Sorry, you had your chance and you blew it...Let KAKKO, CUYLLE, CHYTIL, EDSTROM, VESEY, JONES, MANCINI, and as crazy as it sounds, SMITTY Jr. take more of the ice...And the second BERARD is healthy? He should be in the mix...I've soured on CARRICK to a degree, but I'd also give him more ice than the others...Simply put, LAF, PANARIN, TROCHECK, Z, KREIDER, FOX, and MILLER need their ice slashed bigtime. No more than 17 minutes for any of them, even if it means dudes like MANCINI and JONES are skating 20...START MAKING PLAYERS ACCOUNTABLE. They don't like it? GOOD. They SHOULD feel uncomfortable...I'd also have a long lecture about shot suppression and how they need to help their tender out. GET IN FRONT OF SHOTS. Plain and simple. Shit, I was actually just remembering the RENNEY days and that was one of the first things that happened to set this franchise back on the path to respectability...Those teams were a precursor to Tortorella's black-and-blue shirts...And if you're not going to block shots? You can grab pine. THAT is how you start this team on the righteous path.

Stevie.....this is what we do......package Lardass and I wont let it ruin my Christmas drabby Drury......and launch them into outspace on a Elon Musk rocket.....

Right back at it tomorrow for a real battle of two losing teams. Last 10 Shitcago 2-7-1, Nyr 3-7…… before today’s game the third line scored 12 goals and gave up none. So what does the coach do with that fact, play his top two lines. His shelf life has already expired. He’s been around too long to have any fire left in his lard belly.

Two top players that sit there like fuckin schlep rocks ......I never even see Brendl or Lundmark play.....but our top picks suck just like them....

Oh let me make you think about this even more to really let the SUCK sink in.......Jesper Bratt was a 6th round draft pick!

Let this sink in.....you know it sucks to be a Rangers fan when a 5' 10" 175 lb Jesper Bratt is a better player than #1 overall pick Alexis Lafreniere

Something stinks in rangerland.phew..loose to an expansion team on home ice after blowing a lead. Where is mike Keenan lololol.

Oh we need to defend better….you need to go…. https://youtu.be/3C129CAOmko?si=xGiYVGj-LVrJwZp1

Let’s also remember Seattle has been on an east coast road trip and are tired. They played a fast paced game where they dominated the Devils at times and they had twice the energy and step as the Rangers. Something realllllllly wrong is going on here. I’d be careful because Drury while sounding like he was done for now didn’t sound like anything was off the table.

No one wants the C . Bring messier out of retirement he would take it and pummel a few players

Wiosa...I think of John every year on this date. I remember where I was that night.....at a big house party with friends and after we heard the news ,we cried and played his music all night . It's hard to believe it was 44 years ago. :(

And Kreider's absolutely invisible game today is more than enough for me to say keep the C away from him.

I know this is not the board for it but...Im thinking a lot about John Lennon today. He certainly had his demons, but he also had a lot of heart and talent. Johnny, we hardly knew you

Shonuff: FWIW I'm willing to give a Laf the benefit of the doubt because I believe he's deferring to the veteran leadership core, as are the rest of the younger players. He seems to go as his line goes - defensively Panarin is making as many blunders as he is but because he puts up better numbers (in part because he's on the first PP unit) he tends to escape the wrath. That isn't to absolve Laf of all blame - he is responsible for his own play. I think all the younger players should be cut a break because the coach clearly favours the veterans and until/unless that ends, none will really step forward. Cuylle has to a certain extent but no PP or PK duty, no last 2 minute ice, means he gets limited opportunity to really do much. I mean what did Z and K (especially K) do all game to be rewarded with 6 on 5 play (which got scored on)? There's zero accountability from this coach and IMO it's negatively impacting every young player on this club.

Good Grief Charlie Brown. Just SMH here. The C? I think Im pulling for Trocheck. Something about the guy. LIMBO, well thank you. We're all really, really po'd just about now. So I get it. HOSPO GMTA.

The backhanded good thing is that I don’t expect them to win before any game. And they are living up to my expectations. It’s really time for wrong way dusty druray to fire his handpicked coach and stop thinking it’s only about the players.

All joking aside, I don't know that anyone on this team would want the "C". Kreider already turned it down before it was given to Trouba.

Very early in the season,actually straight out of traing camp ,I stated on here that I did not like the make-up of this year's team . And I'm sticking with that. Take your pick on who is to blame...Drury, Lavy or the players but this was in fact a "snap shot " of what this team is made of.Not easy to watch .

Nice job coach as usual this season. You’re a premature…..keep giving up 6 goals or more in your defensive posture of grabbing your ankles..

Trouba no doubt had a chuckle or 2 when he saw the outcome of this game. Hawks must be getting excited!

And this was my point about the Pittsburgh game. The Kraken, BTW, aren’t even that much better.

Disgusting we didn’t make a body check all day. Worst loss of the year. Got up 3-1 and Rangers thought Kraken would fold. Disgraceful

Said it before and I’ll say it again: the only way to turn this around is to fire LAVIOLETTE. He continues to play guys who are putting in poor effort. He makes poor lineup decisions, and he’s showing no aptitude for learning from his mistakes.

Love the double down on the double down by LaviShit. A loss tomorrow to Chicago or a loss to Barfallo should hopefully end this futility. If I were Kreider, I would start organising my affairs in NY. He should be next to go.

K was invisible all game. At least I noticed Z (missing the net/hitting the post) . A deserved loss. Again.

TD. Vally said the Rangers have seen the number 2 and 3 goalies multiple times this year (lime at least 10). And remember this is yet another non-PO positioned team they're facing.

The Rangers are getting spanked by a second string goalie who has been terrible this season AND is injured…let that sink in.

If I had a $1 for every time the NYR's were supposed to light up a goalie in the last 20 years. I could retire :)

Rhet0ric - uhhhh no. No I don’t. You know why?! BECAUSE THE PROBLEM STILL EXISTS. Nothing has been fixed.

Last season, Bread-TRO-Laffy had a long streak of giving up multiple goals in a game. This is not new.

Well Drury can continue to produce excuses and scapegoats like pulling magic playing cards from his vest. What a shame there there is no accountability at MSG. Must be the company culture.

Rhet0ric - they were playing OK, but that’s about as far as I’ll go. Seattle was playing like shit. They should’ve be lighting up GRUBAUER, and instead, they’re getting lit up. Confidence? Meh? I’d say more like the stupid fucking coach overplaying the same eight guys who have been tanking this season.

The problems are a vet loving coach and a lack of gumption from the leadership team of which Trouba was a part of. Key words part of. Who's gonna step up here now?? Anyone?

Fuck this team. I think the entire organization went in with the mentality. Let’s just raise through the regular season and make the playoffs five through eight. Make our trade deadline acquisitions and win this thing. One problem they fucking suck. They’re not even gonna make the playoffs and I gotta deal with all this devil shit again

You expect everything to be fixed just one game after Trouba is gone? like magic?

The NYR's were playing terrific about halfway through the game. It's more of a confidence thing. They expect things to go wrong. Let's see if they can dig out of it.

I simply don't understand why the coach doesn't elevate the lines doing well and push down those that aren't. Inexplicable.

I might flip Laffy with Cuylle for the 3rd. The dude needs to get out of his head.

Chytil and Carrick lines strong. Of course those 6 have the least icetime. Beyond predictable. Another no cup year with this sitbox coach.

Of course nosendick have no idea why the Rangers are upset with Montaur. So useless.

Another minus for Laf. What's wrong with thus guy. Pressbox time might be in order

Fuck off Montaur. Elbows Smith. Then rausing up his elbow as Trocheck comes in to hut him. Glad Trocheck high sticked him.

Vaaak is 6'2 205 Jones is 510 175 ....I say that's a big difference.otherwiae no idea how good or bad he is

Only PP the usual suspects on the ice for a minute and 39 seconds. Only PK first it's Smith and Trocheck then Zbad and K. Gawd this coach bugs my ass.

I’d say there’s a 75 to 80 percent chance Yanni GOURDE is a Ranger come March.

Hey Sam, I think we still have one more game left in the home stand there buddy.

TD..... In regard to JT MILLER: First off, GM's lie all the time(they have to). Why would you expect one to come clean and tell you all his plans? Only and idiot would do that(right Drury?).... 2nd Miller is currently out on LOA, they can't officially talk about him at all until he is back.... ALSO: How is his attitude not a problem? He creates a divided locker room where ever he goes. It's a problem..... In regard to the CAP: All we had to do make IGOR's new deal mostly fit was to not re-sign LINDGREN. Getting rid of Trouba gives us the flexibility to make other deals. Originally, I thought we were going to deal him to sign K'Andre long term, but now I think that's less likely. Depending on what we decide to do we could use the money to sign CUYLLE long term or turn it into two other players. That said: I expect players like Kakko, Lindgren and Smith to be gone by the draft or the end of the season. Next season you'll be paying both Igor and Bread over $11 Mil in the same season. It will be time for kids to step up on the 3rd line.

VAAKANAINEN will get to audition for RUHWEDEL'S spot in the stands and my slot in if LINDGREN gets banged up...chance they sniff him out as a potential replacement there to cinch up some off-season cap space...but he's not nearly as good or mobile as JONES, and he's not that much bigger...maybe a little more physical. Either way, I could see him getting sent to Hartford to get some games in once he's healthy and then brought back up to be the seventh defender...again...I wouldn't be surprised in the least if he's not qualified. The Ducks needed the roster spot and the contract slot...otherwise, the trade probably would've been TROUBA for the conditional fourth rounder. VAAK was a throw in because Anaheim has too many defensemen. As it is, they're going to need to send down one of their promising young defenders to accommodate TROUBA.

mf - LOL, PROVOROV?! Holy shit, dude. If THAT guy gets moved to the Rangers, for his own safety, he should refuse to report. He would be absolutely tarred and feathered by the fanbase. Like immediately. Couple together the fact that he's not very good at the hockey thing, he's also a piece of shit AND soft. Tell you what though, it'd be amusing watching that fire ignite. Picture the combined fan fury of MALAHKOV-it-up and Pokecheck POTI. It'd be UG-LY.

Limbo - re: the shitload of cap space. Dude, be afraid. Be VERY afraid. I don't know which would be better for this team...for it to take off like a rocket and steamroll to the deadline...or to really hit the skids...my sincere fear here is that we're going to be in between and that DRURY is going to use that space to try and land a major piece...and that it'll come at the behest of losing some real nice players, including KAKKO, definitely OTHMANN and BERARD and a few others we won't really like to stomach...Sadly, I think the player(s) he will target will be a large, top-four defenseman on an expiring contract to replace TROUBA'S physicality and then another WENNBERG-type center...maybe even WENNBERG. I could see him and either Ben CHARIOIT or Justin HOLL coming our way...and normally I wouldn't be overly upset about it...but we have ZERO picks to give away now without throwing out a first rounder...so...yes. Be scared. Be very scared of the trade deadline. Giving DRURY that much space is like giving an arsonist a full gas can and a blowtorch.

I always find it incredible that Erik and Jack JOHNSON are not related. That said, they are essentially the same player these days. If you're putting one or the other on your blueline's top six? You're raising the white flag. Not even sure if Erik would be as good as RUHWEDEL, who's a guy that is now costing us nothing. If he was on the waiver wire? Meh? Maybe. But to trade for him? Fuck no. Not unless it's RUHWEDEL we're sending the other way. Even then...

mf - HARPUR hasn't been an NHL-caliber defenseman since he joined the Rangers. And he's only gotten slower. He is literally a pylon now. Might as well put him in an orange jersey so players don't accidentally run into him. If HE is the guy the Rangers bring in to settle their defense, then hit the reset button because it's over.

re: NASHVILLE, the guy you're probably looking at their is Ryan O'REILLY. I'm sure SCISSIONS could be had...SCHENN and LAUZON for sure...but that team will definitely be hitting a full rebuild soon. I could see them trying to push off one of their big contract signings, though all of them have NMC/NTCs.

RDW - I don't see any mix of players the Sabres would take for COZENS. Maybe LAFRENIERE straight up? Possible something like KAKKO, PERREAULT and a pick. Or KAKKO, OTHMANN and a first. You're not pulling COZENS out of Buffalo without overpaying badly.

re: LABA - They would've signed him last season if he had indicated a willingness. He'll be in the fold as soon as Colorado's season ends. There's a very small chance he goes back for his senior year if the team gets close, but doesn't win a championship. But the Rangers are going to need him in 2025-26, and they'll want him in Hartford or possibly even the big club this spring.

RF4L - Admittedly, you never know with Buffalo...but...you'd have to be stupid to be part of that organization and NOT recognize the total shitshow fallout of pulling the plug on EICHEL, REINHART and to a somewhat lesser degree, O'REILLY...in other words, if the wheels really DO fall off the bus...as they predictably do with all of Lindy RUFF's teams...COZENS ain't gonna be the guy they move...Alex TUCH? Totally different story. Jordan GREENWAY is another. In terms of young players? I wouldn't be surprised at all to see them trade Jack QUINN...Mattias SAMUELSSON could be another. Throw Peyton KREBBS in that mix...but COZENS? Nope.

Could IGOR's play have been distracted by the upcoming arrival of his child? It might rabbit, it might.

I liked the Trouba trade. He was nit what I expected when he got here. I expected someone who could run PP #2 and could put up points. Instead, he became the biggest hitter around which I liked, of course. But like changes guys, and he and Mika have changed significantly. Mika since the birth of his child, and Trouba with his wife. Remember that Trouba was not universally loved when he was in Winnipeg either. The lack,of focus and effort by him this season was really alarming. He knew he was going to be traded and it really impacted his play. This move is better for all concerned. I do,think it is interesting that of the deals Drury would accept, Trouba and Amber hart chose Anaheim. I am always happy when Drury does not deal with Yzerman as Yzerman tends to clean his clock with trades. Detroit would have had to move money to take on Trouba. Anaheim didn’t. I bet that He does not finish his contract there. He will end up,with a contender this deadline or next. Anaheim is not close to winning yet.

fotiu22 - I truly believed they were better this year. And I think they were on paper: Add CHYTIL, JONES, EDSTROM, SMITTY Jr., and CARRICK, subtract: ROSLOVIC, WENNBERG, GUSTAFSSON, BONINO and WHEELER. But, IMO, you have a coach thoroughly unwilling to trust young players, and then slap in whatever cloud that was created by the TROUBA situation and/or the SHESTERKIN contract...

PJ - Yeah, I don't necessarily disagree, re: the Pens. I just look at the sum total of their parts and they're terrible. A unique blend of being soft and old and having very poor goaltending...I'm being hypercritical for sure. And take it from me...ANY time the Rangers beat the Pens is a good time in my book. I can't stand that shit franchise, their POS coach, his POS assistant and above all, that whining dirt-stache bastard CROSBY.

So dreary Drury says he's done for now. Let's see what happens if his team keeps stumbling and bumbling along. Next 3 opponents are hardly the league's elite to at least 4 points should be collected. Anything less IMO means their funk remains. Of course we need to fully expect his coach to give his vets the most minutes...

He’s so Excited…“It’s really nice to have it done,” Drury said on a Zoom call to reporters Saturday. “To have the certainty with the position and knowing what the cap hit is going to be moving forward. We’re excited to get it done. Excited to move forward with him.”…. He just can’t hide it…. Maybe buy a new vest in a bigger size….

My job?…”“It’s my job to try and figure out on a day-to-day, week-to-week basis what the team needs,” he said. “I’m certainly not opposed to make more changes, but big picture, with that said, the team has been through a lot the last couple of weeks and certainly this week. I’d like to let the dust settle a little bit. … Just like to see the team get settled in with this a little bit.”

“Laviolette was also vague on the timeline, saying it was “somewhere” between a day-to-day and week-to-week status. “We’ll get to that when we get there,” Laviolette said when asked if Vaakanainen will stay with the group or go off to one of the team’s affiliates. “Right now, he’s on the IR and out on the ice. That’s a good thing for us.”

UPDATE: #NYR has recalled defenseman Connor Mackey and goaltender Dylan Garand from AHL Hartford. Hmmmm….Garand? Is Quick banged up? What’s this about?

Let's keep BUF"s Mattias SAMUELSSON on the board for the LHS_D 3rd pair position, the cost shouldn't be too great. AON, it Looks like his M.O. is to stay healthy for 1/2 to 3/4 of a season. https://www.hockey-reference.com/players/s/samuema02.html ---- Provorov & Samuelsson in, Lindgren & Jones out, and re-sign K'Andre' Miller??? All the while retaining enough Cap Room to address the forwards and remaing Free Agents on our Roster?

K'Andre Miller is having a banner year for Drury at the bargaining table! Miller's on pace to score 13.12 points for the season. Ha ha ha, want a raise Kid? #MeToo! :-) "Rotsa-Ruk!" https://www.hockey-reference.com/players/m/milleka01.html

CBJ: Has UFA at the end of this season Ivan PROVOROV (https://www.hockey-reference.com/players/p/provoiv01.html) They have plenty of Cap Space available, and I have no idea why they wouldn't re-up the man, unless he wants a change of scenery and wants to test free agency. Provorov is in the final year of a 6 year deal at an avg $6.75mill p/y contract. He turns 28 in January & on paper he looks like a real good addition. Can we afford him, do we need the cap room to resign Miller and address at least 1 forward position? Once again, "welcome to the jungle!" :->)

NSH: NSH made some big moves since last season loaded foe Bear this season and their standings don't indicate success. They have LAUZON a RHS-D who hits everything but has never played a full 82 any season. 3rd pair RHS-D for the NYR's? Sure, but will they trade and what's the price-tag? BTW, NSH is stacked with Draft Picks for the upcoming draft, they may be willing to part with a pick or two in an attempt to continue to salvage their season. That's Drury's job to find out.

Good Morning Folks: Can we "add to and tweak" (trade) the roster to seriously compete for 'The Cup" this season? I think that this is a valid reality check for establishing moves and expectations.... What position to target? Who's available? How old is the targeted player? What's the cost? Which players, prospects, picks, are we parting company with? tbc for sure.... Welcome to the jungle... :->)

Gudas and Trouba on the blue line. Anaheim seems like it’s regrowing its team identity. With less talent.

MF - Personally, I think that pisses the season good bye..We alfready have two fring D-men in the top 6 and one, Lindgren, who cant stay healthy and plays smaller then he used to..not to mention the regressions of Fox and MIller...The D could be a HUGE problem

I'm thinking a fringe D'man (aka: someone to fill the void for the rest of this season who will maintain or hopefully add our competitive level) may be the way to go. Then again, what to do regarding LINDGREN?

Looks like we will have a shitload of cap space at the TDL. I would love to be one of those middlemen that gets a pick or 2 for taking a few million back in a trade between other teams.

mf. Z and K for Cozens and Samuelsson. I mused about this summer. Orchestra it dude!!!!

MF - IMWO, they need something much more than a fringe/depth D-man with Troubs out of the picture

PHI: Veteran RHS-D Erik Johnson: Has only skated in 15 games this season, don't see any news that he's injured. Signed at $1mill for this season, could he be a stopgap for the duration of this season? https://www.hockey-reference.com/players/j/johnser01.html

Ben Harpur: On the Wolfpack (https://www.hockey-reference.com/players/h/harpube01.html) - Can he be trusted as our regular 3rd pair LHSD? The guy has a screw loose, can anyone relate? :->) https://www.flohockey.tv/video/13001089-ben-harpur-charges-into-goalie-felix-sandstrom-suspended-four-games-by-ahl

Mattias Samuelsson: BUF LHS-D but often injured. Looks like the type of defenseman many here covet, but the injuries! https://sabrenoise.com/time-buffalo-sabres-cut-ties-mattias-samuelsson-01jckg6s9eww --- (https://www.hockey-reference.com/players/s/samuema02.html)

MF - Well, this shift in attitude will have to come from the outside IMWO because most of the players here while some can be physical, most are choirboys who don't initiate...I also really worry bout the protection Of IGOR without TRoubs...Personally, I'd rather not count on BOTH Jones nd Mancini, especially later in the season unless the decision is made to quit and play for the future..

Damn, Nashville spent all that money this summer and are now about to lose their 7th straight...gotta be a trade there somehow---Forsberg? Lauzon? Sissons (for E!)?

Hospo: I just think this teams "hit & checking switch" is in the off position. Once this team has a shift in attitude, we have some good horses. Sure looks like we're 2 players shy, 1 a LHS D (I'd sink or swim with Mancini the rest of the way for RHSD 3rd pair) and perhaps look to move SMITH for reasons I posted earlier. Time to hunt for trade targets and toss names on The Wall. :-)

MF - can't say I agree with that statement at all....I really like KK and he is a bull in the offensive zone but he just uses strength along the boards and rarely throws checks...LAFFY does some heavy board checking now and then...CARRICK does hit what he can catch (not much) and can be a dirty sucker,..Vesey doesn't hit all that much and Edstrom needs to hit more.....and none of the D-men bring what Troubs did..Schneids, Lindgren and hopefully MIller cn be physical but all very clean and by the rules hitters..Team needs some nastiness in its' attitude, even before Troubs was shitcanned

RDW. Not sure. But there were rumors recently that he might be because he's underachieving. Bottom line is something has to give there

LIMBO - Yes, all old man flirting aside :), agreed with your last take especially if we ever stop to take the human part into consideration not just the fan/entertainment experience!..Then again, that would make for a very ho hum wall!!...WIOSA - Spot on about TROUBS..Same take here just said it too chaotically..:)......ALl that said, there has to be a few more big moves coming...Just scared shitless what DRURY might do

MF are you joking, kakko, vescey Carrick don't hit , laffy not really what I would call intimidating like trouba is

vcp: IMO you can add Laf, Trochek, Kakko, Carrick, Vesey, to the names that you better not skate with your head down when they're on the ice

WIOSA, in many ways the Wall’s conscience…your thoughtful post, rightfully, makes me ashamed of my anti-TUBA screed yesterday, lol. I like TROUBS too. He seems like a solid, solid person. The kind you want and need in your life. Hey, we tear ZCRAP a new butthole daily here, but, from what I can tell, he pretty much defines the word “gentle-man”. If either of these guys was your son, brother, friend I’m sure it would be like hitting the jackpot. None of that other stuff, at least from me, is about them personally. Just professionally, haha.

I liked Trouba. I'm going to miss his presence. I liked his style and his confidence. I wish him well. Yay on Igors signing.

E - IMWO, his play in the Florida series means nothing..he was playing on an ankle that nobody should have been playing and esepcially not the way Laviolette was using hime..but becsue DRury only obtained the worthless RUWHEDEL, they had no other options.....his entire game and reactions were messed up bug time...This season was the Drury mind fuck...We needed the pre-injury TROUBS but that ship had sailed in NY....Hopefully he gets it back in Anaheim and he and GUDAAS terrorize opposing forwards big time...or the Ducks trade GUDAS to the Rangers!!!

Drury in Providence to watch Laba play. Bet they're looking to sign him this spring.

Hospo completely agree about trouba we are one of the softer teams in the league again minus Goodrow and trouba. We have Schneider, Cuyllee, kreider pretended against Pittsburgh mancini is learning, edstrom is eh, vescey also eh. Am I missing anyone. Good news is we have a long way to go. Teams can now skate with their heads down against us.

In my opinion Trouba’s problem could be summed up in one play in the Florida series. Trouba tried to line someone up while abandoning the lane on a big hit. Puck got advanced and he went to the box for 2. I love old school hockey but like it or not on the small ice just like the big ice game you can’t come out of the lanes for a hit. Becoming as pointless as the diving in front of the puck. You may stop it but you aren’t in position to recover it and gotta get back to your feet and stay in the play. The game is just evolving this way. I get it. If you want a physical team it’s gotta be like Florida plays. Or Vegas does. Quick on players no time and space. And just be mean. Lots of guys who can land a check. Team wide commitment to rough play. I know what the coach wants. He wants a return to Smashville hockey. Drury has not given him the team he wants yet. But he has Berard coming in. And sometimes it isn’t size, it’s style. If Berard can get a bit more Ryan Lamberg in him, he’s gonna do very well in the NHL.

Moving past the most recent of many DRURY fuck ups and the TROUBA situation, I know Troubs play slipped a bit this year from his usual healthy game but, damn, he was one of the most exciting Rangers to watch FOR ME..Gonna miss him...Will the Rangers? We'll see...All i know is the Rangers desperately need to bring in somebody on D that brings the good things Troubs brought

TROUBA REFLECTION: Similar to Barry Beck and Rick Nash trades, the Trouba trade brought in a young player with a proven record of success and potential to develop into a 1st team All Star... Trouba never developed any further and didnt fix his bad tendencies to puck watch and stand still as a statue or get himself out of position chasing a hit. I do wonder how much his lack of improvement after his age 27YO season was caused by pressure of captaincy or all his extra-curricular activities being distractions. Trouba doesnt seem to live and breath hockey 24-7. I did like the trade, not so much the contract, but in the end, it was a worthy pursuit that didnt work out, just like Beck and Nash.

Wild....Agree last night Laviolette did right by going with the lines that had jump...Chytil line wasn't looking all that good...Problem is he doesn't do this when it's the opposite...Many nights the Z line deserves the least amount of ES time...Never happens...Also PP1 needs to defer to second unit more than it does,,,

WC: with the benefit of hind site I too believe that Goodrow was a better option than Smith. 1) reduces the shakeup to the roster 2) retains the physical play Goody brings especially come playoff time 3) Goody's utility up & down the lines & at wing & or center. 4) retain any picks sent to Pitt for Smith 5) allows for the promotion of Kakko or Cuylle to the Top 6

Ice time. The "kid" line, Chytil for instance, had about 40 seconds less 5v5 ice time than Zib did...so anyone upset about how much Lavy used the kids needs to just stop pretending and making shit up. Yes Kakko had 4 min less than the top RW, but hey that was Laf, and he had 3 minutes less than Smith, but ummm...Smith had 6 shots on goal last night and was probably the best players out there up front. Cuylle had about 50 seconds less than Kreider. So the Center on the kid line and the LW on that line had about a shift, maybe two shifts less than the line that had 10 shots on goal and that scored. That Zib line had twice as many shots as the Chytil line in just 2 extra shifts 5v5, but consider this...7 of those 10 shots came at even, Smith had as many shots at even as Chytil, Cuylle and Kakko combined. Yet here are folks upset about ice time last night. Accusing the coach of forcing the vets...well you want to not play them because there are kids. How about the coach puts a line out that is playing better over one that is not? Thats the reason y'all give when the kids are playing better and you think they don't get enough ice time, but when it's the vets playing better suddenly that calculous changes. The fact is that last night Lavy did a good job behind the bench. He gave out ice time based on who players were performing, Hell Jones INCREASED his ice time in the 3rd period, and he used the two youngest D with under 2 minutes left in the game. They had been strong early int he 3rd and he used them later on as well. TO say that he doesn't use kids, or that he defaults to vets is silly at best.

fotiu22…Petsonally I believe we have regressed quite a bit…No Goodrow who had a good playoff and epitomizes playoff hockey….Z has continued his death spiral…Laff looked poised to really put up some numbers this year and it hasn’t happened yet….Our D may not be good enough to get us though a round….Much needs to happen before we are back in the conversation…

Watched the game on delay last night after work. Came on here this mornin…First. Once again (it’s been a couple games) effort on the ice has not equaled scoreboard. Last night they played a game that should have had them up by 2-3 goals much earlier in the game. But you can see at times they are each trying to do too much. The second they start to simplify and jsut relax and play they really take over…like those long possession times in the offensive zone with 2-3 shots. A few of those sequences came oh so close to being a goal. I think the game also showed that it’s not effort but mental that has caused the downturn. Why is that? The PK is the least fun part of playing hockey. It’s hard work. But the Rangers when on the PK do so well, they are not slacking and generate offense. For me this shows that in the other aspects of the game they lack confidence. If they had more confidence there they would look as good as the PK. Zib looks faster and quicker on the Pk. The passing is more crisp. The physical play ticks up. Decisions are made faster. Everything you want at 5v5 happens on the PK. So it’s clearly mental, not physical, that is holding them back. I am not sure if a new player added up front will help that or not, but perhaps they need group sports psychology sessions or something. Smith has been much better since he was scratched. Clearly needed a reset or something. Did someone really say Goodrow over Smith? I mean that’s jsut desperately searching for things to be negative about. Enough already.

TD…Not in total agreement on the quality of last nights win….It is all about how teams are playing at the time….Pens had won four in a row with wins over Panthers, Flames, Bruins and Canucks….We were getting beat by good and bad teams…We got lucky because Igor played great?…Don’t agree with this at all…Igor gave up a bad goal and faced 20 shots…He wasn’t bad but was hardly the reason we won…The Z line had its best game in a long time which I know isn’t saying much but they were moving well….Trocheck line very good also…No wins are easy for the Rangers right now…A baby step for sure but have to start somewhere…

Anybody on the Wall feel like we have a better team than last year? And I mean for when it counts…are we a better playoff team than last year? Will we have the toughness to beat a Panther team in the first round? Obviously there are still moves to be made during the season and as the deadline but are we close to being a Cup winning team?

JFC…Sorry for your troubles…Apologizing for ripping a player is a precedent you don’t want to set for thIs board…Would get a little crazy…LOL….

Seattle gave NJ a real handful a few nights ago. So while the NYR should win in theory they’ll have to bring it. Last night was the kind of win a struggling team needs to turn it around. You have an ugly win. The Rangers weren’t particularly great. The defense is still atrocious but you won. And if you can get a back 2 back you’ll have something to build on. Maybe life gets quiet now this Trouba mess is over. That’s my greatest optimistic take.

So next 3 games are against Seattle Chicago and Barfalo. If 4 points or more are captured from those 3 opponents IMO it'll constitute failure.

Mf. That's an excellent point. Goodrow over Smith 7 days a week and twice on Sundays AFAIC.

TDCHI - Totally agree about the game, the team and the coach..Like I said last night, gut feeling that Laviolette rams the top 2 lines down out throats and starts to minimize the kids....That my change after Druyry Trades Krieds and KK......Anybody notice that all four goals were on the rush/break ins and zero from the type of hockey you play in POs??? Then again, that's how the Penns play so at least the Rangers took advnatge of the situation with their high end open ice skill.....Rangers want to compete for the Cup this year they have serious moves to make, especially a D-man...They want to blow it up, they have serious moves to make also....Unfortuntely, DRURY is too incompetent to do either..

TD: you're preaching to the choir on the cap. Had Drury not traded for Smith, he could have retained Goodrow and whatever he sent the other way, but no, we had to find a RW for the Bromo's which isn't panning out. K & Z need and needed to be separated at even strength, special teams is another story, I have no issues with them being together on a PP Unit or the PK, but at even strength, "No Bueno!"

JFC - Sorry for your loss..Hope the venting help you get through the night easier....Personally, little bout the Rngers hit a nerve on me, but the Troubs sitaution did..so we werem't a good mtch! Hang in there...

mf - The cap space from the TROUBA trade is gone. We can borrow from it this season…and it means DRURY has wiggle room if he DOES decide to keep trading…but it’s gone. The whole purpose of all of this…waiving GOODROW and trading TROUBA… was to avoid the very real possibility the rest of the NHL wouldn’t hold him hostage or potentially offersheet an RFA…I frankly think they could’ve accomplished the same thing by NOT trading for SMITTY Jr., and at least keeping TROUBA until the deadline…but whatever. Water under the bridge…the space he has now? Everyone should brace for a year bonehead trade if the Rangers aren’t in contention…I’m talking missing a good chunk of our prospect base/first rounder away…because THAT, I’m sure, is the plan: get close to the top, use the temp cap space to nab a couple expiring contracts to rent for the run…bold strategy, Cotton. Let’s if it works for them…

JFC31 - happens to the worst of us! J/K man. Sorry to hear and hope you’re in a better mindset. Helps that we went home with a dubya last night!

Mf. The Canucks are looking to add not subtract and they are very pleased with Sherwood.

JFC. No worries over here bud. You didn't attack a fellow wallster which IMO is always unacceptable. And you made me laugh.

Great to read everyone's take, our boy Drury could use a public relations coach, and the players could use a refresher in the fact that this is a hard cap league and the potential of having your life uprooted is a fact of life. That said, Drury freed up a combined $11,641,667 in cap space for next season by moving Goodrow & Trouba. Should he have not signed Lafreniere & Shesterkin? Speaking of Cap, we currently have more Cap Space available than 23 teams in the league. (https://puckpedia.com/teams) This means we can take on an expiring contract as a component of a potential trade. We still have some glaring needs that were addressed last season for coming into this season. In no particular order: 1) What to do about our LHS-D? 2) A Center. Are we banking on Chytil? Is KaKKo to be converted to the Center Position? If yes, do you "Legends of The Wall" see him flourishing & dominating at Center? 3) Top 9 Wing: Drury brought in Reilly Smith, OK, good player, reasonable Cap Hit to us at $3,750,000 and on an Expiring Contract. The thing is that I as of now I see him as a potential trade piece for a player who is younger, maybe a bit more physical, and someone we can ink for longer term or has more term on an existing contract. "IF" we promote KaKKo to a Top 6 RW slot, we could look to trade for a 3rd line RW. VAN has this guy KIEFER SHERWOOD (https://www.hockey-reference.com/players/s/sherwki01.html) who looks like a miserable player to have to face. He's 4 years younger than Reilly SMITH, he's a RHS (which we need) he averages 3 hits per game, he's on a contract that pays $1.5mill this season and next, and 3rd line is where the Knucks are currently playing him. We now have the Cap Room to eat a substantial percentage of SMITHS $3,750,000 hit. "IF" we can eat 50% of Smitty's cap, we can deliver him with a $1,875,000 cap hit to the recipient. IF SHERWOOD isn't available, maybe we can get TOLVANEN out of Seattle. Seattle lost EBERLE and maybe they're interested in SMITH? None of this addresses the LHSD though, we may need to include SMITH in a transaction that returns us a Defenseman. Does Jones and or Lindgren go in our search for an LHS-D? We still need to compete for The CUP this season.

We beat another crappy team..we will take it but we aren't contenders yet lololol. Not even close.

Jfc31 we have true free speech here. Sorry to hear about your difficult times. We are all in this together. We should have a wallsters trip to a game lololololol

Good morning. Wall Crawlers! I want to apologize for my harsh demeanor and talking shit about Trouba last night. I had a very tough day with the death of someone special from my youth and guess I needed to vent. But, I shouldn’t have done it here…I should have saved it for Twitter/C lol. But, seriously…my apologies!

I sense the offense perhaps coming back to life. On the flip side, it would be nice to see a game where we don’t give up a goal to an unmolested third man trailer entering the zone. That breakdown seems to be happening on an endless loop now. And what is with the defensive strategy of the Red Sea parting down the slot? Seems like our defenders have decided to cover everybody but the puck carrier as they cruise down the slot toward Igor. Perhaps that is depending on Igor a bit too mucn?

Rhet0ric - The Canucks have said they're not trading MILLER. And FWIW, I don't think 'attitude' is his problem, per se.

re: the Red Wings, if that's true, chances are pretty good it was either Ben CHARIOT or Justin HOLL. Most likely, the latter. None of their other NTC/NMC guys make any sense...again, the Rangers absolutely NEEDED that contract space come July 1.

...cut him a very small degree of slack because the Rangers REALLY needed to win that game...but man...you look at how he divided the ice and it's fucking pathetic. He's doing what he did in the playoffs, which literally sank this team...PP1 has been terrible. Full stop. I don't care how pretty they look passing the puck. They've been ridiculously bad. And speaking of doubling down, LAVIOLETTE was literally giving them 1:30 out of every 2 minutes...in short, this is a coach still grasping at straws. He lucked out with a goaltender who came alive, against a weak opponent, and with his top line waking up...The problem, folks, is that THIS Ranger team wasn't even two thirds as good as the one that played the Penguins in October. Not even close.

I fully believe a win is a win is a win...mostly...but if you're feeling great after this one? Pump the brakes. Hard. Yes, you gotta start somewhere. But this Penguins are a bad team. A REALLY bad team. They have almost no D, a geriatric offense, and their tender has been struggling to get his save percentage over .850...And like the Canadians before them, the Pens were in that game basically until the end...That game was played with ZERO passion from either side at least through 30. Really more like 40...Positives? SHESTERKIN looked like his old self. The silver lining of this all is that maybe...JUST MAYBE...the contract negotiations were weighing on HIM and he wasn't on his game...but again, this is a Pens team that they annihilated two months ago...embarrassed. And now, they're just squeaking by..Good notes, for sure are more shots for, less shots against. Superior goaltending. On the player side, SMITTY Jr. looked like a man on a mission, for whatever reason. THAT player looked almost worthy of what the Rangers gave up for him...Good to see PANARIN come alive too...But really that's where the positives end...I'll say this: The Rangers playing this sort of game against the Devils Monday would not have resulted in a win. Maybe not a 5-1 loss, but playing like they did will not beat top or even decent teams...I didn't have to wait long for LAVIOLETTE to do what I figured he would, which is staple MANCINI to the bench...I agree, that the TROUBA trade is in the rearview mirror...but the RIGHT thing for MANCINI would've been for him to spend the year in Hartford. He's a good player. He needs minutes. Playing 10 or 12 a night will not be good for him OR this team...sticking with this theme...LAVIOLETTE just continues to double down on overplaying his top guys. I'll cut

Dave Maloney gave his opinions before the game which were fairly honest. The players needed to pick up their game. And without mentioning the coach said that they need to stop relying on the top two lines and give the minutes to the players that deserve it in each game, and stop giving up so many chances. And his big question was what captain of the Nyr has not been traded while being the captain?……and I say It’s like the scarlet letter. Maybe it’s better just to go with A’s instead. I think gallant was on to something by having 6 of them. Trouba openly admitted that the summer noise affected him, which naturally spread to the team. I’ll not mention by name the other two elephants in the room who have sucked too much oxygen instead of breathing life into it.

The positives... coming back after the softie that Shesty let in ..and coming back after the bad penalty Jones took .. that lead to the goal regardless of the successful PK .. pickin up teammates after bad plays is significant IMO .. and Smith, who took the body on the Ice chicken D instead of reaching ... ultimately created the opportunity for the GW goal ... u do not have to runthrough people but have to be physically engaged to win

Something wrong with fox his knee must still be an issue.. the big secret he is just average these days. He is just is too slow.

ESPN was just talking about the NYR's possibly trading for JT MILLER.... they were talking about Miller having problems with some of his teammates... AGAIN. Everywhere this guy goes.... Divided locker room when he was with the NYR's, one when he was with the LIGHTNING... and this is now the 2nd time with the CANUCKS... There are now rumors out there that Miller is out because HE needs a re-set. You know because he has some attitude problems.... There is a reason why the NYR's got rid of him under cover of night. DRURY should know all of this... BUYER BEWARE!!!

Yawn of a game..Rangers played like they did for 40 mins agaist Montreal...hustling, backchecking and skating, but little physclity from either team .Penns provided zero push or forecheck,,.still..some bums finally played a little better and a win is a win,,....In the big picture, I don't think this game shows anything about the psyche of the team but can see that DRURY has created one additional need (TOUGH, physical D-man) for the team but has more cap space for the year...Also can see this night be the start of a time when Laviolettee goes back to minimizing the kid line and skates the Panarina and ZBad lines to death..just a feeling

Backcheck was much better and we pressured the puck…It was the Pens but everyone had been smoking us…The lowly Blues blew us out in our building…. On to Sunday…

Good things happen you backcheck. Haven’t seen Mika and Panarin hustle on defense like that in a while. Mancini was fine

Looked like a trip on purpose to me…Well baby steps…They looked better than they have…

The second PP unit is basically worthless at this point. They've had no real in-game ice time together and they look super tentative.

Also funny the Zbad took the weak shot the ended up rebounding right to smith for the goal. See shoot the puck Z!

PJ - Yes he has and I pointed it out during the last few games how well he played..but not tonight...hmmmm

Brilliant for zac jones to go make a change after his penalty and penguins on rush right in front of him

Hospo- we don’t have anybody: And apologies for the shit post but I’ll preface it with I got shitfaced at happy hour tonight but let’s be honest. Anybody on the wall who truly believes we are going to win a Cup in the next 5 or 10 years? I hope I get one more to enjoy with my kids but have no confidence whatsoever and that just blows

PJ - Not that I don't like Mancinni, I do, but he's taking a huge jump very quickly.....We just signed IGOR to 11.5 mill per, who is gonna protect him or at least try..?? for another day when it matters, not against Pitt

Stranger.... There are only 2 guys on that team who's contracts expire after this season and he is one of them :) I can't wait for that dude to retire :)

Beyond my obvious dislike of Zbad, I am seriously worried about Fox’s game, which has gone down the toilet since his knee injury.

I like both Jones and Mancini…Miller I can do without…Lindgren just not the same anymore…

There is plenty I can say about the trade, but I probably will just annoy the Wall with my rambling. That said, while I am far from a Drury supporter, I think he did what he had to. His job is to improve the team and deal with the salary cap. He has not been able to do that with the contracts and cap. Much of this is his own making, but a lot has been inherited. But at the same Drury has not shown to be able to make trades that improve the team beyond just overspending on rentals or doing salary dumps, like the Goodrow waiving, and this Trouba deal. I have no idea if he truly is not done making changes, but I certainly am not against it. At best this team was not quite as good as last year and that team was not good enough. At worst we have the past three weeks to savor. Still don’t think we will see any long term improvement without more moves and probably another coaching change. Something has been very off with this group and getting the Trouba fiasco overwith is just start but not a magic elixir.

It doesn't matter in a shit game like tonight and I don't know if Drury cares about competing for a Cup this year but, if he does, with Manacinin still very iffy as an NHLer, Jones and Fox lightweights, Miller only playing physical when he wants, and the injury plagued Lindgren playing smaller and smaller, what the hell do the Rangers do about a strong, consistently physical D-man???

Emily Kaplan said there was a player on Detroit that wouldn't waive his clause to be moved to make a Trouba deal work.... What are the chances that it was Patrick Kane? :)

Rangers look to have a little life, but still sloppy as shit. The 1PP still doing the same crap and Z still afraid to shoot. Not that excited to be up by 1 against the lowly Playpens.

Damn, Panarina is amazing in these patty cake no hitting games....That said..great shot!

It’s a hobby of mine. I like to remember witty quotes. I will forever remember “Great players are capable of amazing things”. Ray Ferraro. You fuckwad.

Rangers look like a completely different team! Best they’ve looked in…let’s see…3 weeks! Some individuals look like new players….Lindgren, ZiB, Miller, Smith..,,

There might be some rust there, Z was mostly playing with TRO while Kreider was out.

HOSPO - Fair enough. I respect your opinion. Maybe TUBA doesn’t owe us anything, but I feel we do owe a bit to each other…sometimes, lol. From my side, this is mostly harmless bloviating on my part. At the end of the day, everyone here wants the same thing…

Why do the have Cuylle circling around the high slot for the 2nd PP unit?? It does nothing

PJ: Laff is struggling offensively too...him and Miller look like they are afraid to make a mistake.

That play is exactly what this team has to clean up .. work hard to recover the puck and then lazy giveaway at the blueline for a grade A chance against

FYI both ZBAD and kreider were offered the craptaincy and said no trouba took it. The curse of the rangers craptaincy only messier has been able to hold into it and win with it.

LIMBO - His performance is something totally different..which i didn't think was being discussed..The entiire team except for Cuylle sucked for 3 weeks so, if performance was the metric, every fucking player should hve been traded..Trouba nd his leadership and allegiance to his team and teamate is another story

TD - I agree with a lot of what you said. Pretty obvious by the timing that this was a TUBA for IGOR deal. We can agree to disagree on TUBAs play over the past few years. He’s gone now, it’s over. Let’s see what happens.

Brian2d - because the wife’s residency was a bullshit canard that Fuckface Brooks offered to cover his poor reporting and inflammatory column. She was never the problem. TROUBA didn’t want to leave.

So, will Fox-Lindgren be the #1 PK unit on D..with Fox being the crease cleafrer?

HOSPO - lol. I think we have a communication breakdown. Where did I say he owed me anything? Lol. Nope. Never said it. BUT THAT SAID - you don’t think he owes his employer to not suck? You don’t think he owes it to the fans to not suck? Well, that is an interesting point, lol. And, regardless, I LITERALLY said - I would do the same thing he did. Every day. But here’s the the thing…I’m not him. I just root for the team. So…Fuck Him. If he doesn’t like it, or anyone doesn’t like it, I really don’t give a shit. I’m happy he’s gone. It’s time to move on from players who suck ass at hockey.

Limbo - pump the brakes, dude. TROUBA was playing fine for the first month of the season. Actually looked like the old Jake. But then the team hit the skids. And then he got offered around. And then everything went south. Let’s not make this out to be something it ain’t. He came into the season with the right intentions. But bottom line? DRURY wanted to get the SHESTERKIN sitch resolved, and the only way he could do it was to clear $6 mil in cap…or take the plunge and have to move assets to divest him come the off-season. To DRURY’s very limited credit, he gave the team a chance to pull it together, and they didn’t.

One thing I'm missing: If Trouba's wife's residency was supposed to end this year, why didn't he negotiate an additional year on the NMC, even if he had to accept less money to do so. That would have avoided this situation.

PJ - Drury mangled the Troubs situation, how he dealt Goodie, this fucking bozo letter..and i'm sure what he will do in his emasculating of the Rangers in his future moves..

Well i liked trouba on the team. Some or many of yoj can disagree. Now. What will be done to become a tough team to play on the playoffs. Now softer to play against teams like florida and capitals and carolina. Dont have the speed to best the devils

TDCHI - exactly - You could feel the hurt and sadness, though others think otherwise

Do everyone here would put job over family?….It shouldn’t have been handled publicly…That and the letter to other teams has really worked wonders…Why are many of the others not putting forth effort?

JFC - I stand by what I said before..This is somebody life we are talkingn about where multiple things interct and things change every .Wanted to stay but finally knew it wasn't viable......Thanks for everything Troubs!

JFC - I think it’s pretty obvious why he “accepted” a trade now. DRURY grew a pair and told him, pick your place or you will be waived and are going to CBJ. TUBA blinked first. Not surprising. DRURY is barely human - he doesn’t blink…he just licks his eyeballs…like a lizard, lol.

Not sure how anyone can watch that interview with TROUBA and get the takeaway that he didn’t give a shit. Man. The dude was choking back tears.

LIMBO - Like he would care what the fuck somebody like you or me says?....I would have made the saame choice..and yes a thosusnad times over just like him...for me..my family..and for playing on team I loved and the city he loved living...He owes nothing else to you or anybody else....

Hospo - he just basically said on ESPN between periods that he wanted to hold on and stay here for his family, Then Weekes asked him how the logistics were for him and his family and he said it’s no big deal…my wife will finish up her business here in NY. He did what he did over the summer just to squeeze as much time here as he could and now he’s like, oh well, my wife is gonna finish her residency here and we’ll go from there…like it’s no problem. He didn’t like that it went public. Why? If he did nothing wrong, why?

So it's clear. My beef with Trouba as a Ranger was his dumbass contract which was on Squishface not him. The crap he pulled on the Jets was selfish shit.

That was a much better period than I have seen in quite awhile, have to wonder how much the Trouba stuff was dragging them down. Only one period…….but better. They actually forechecked and had some possession.

Well, now we’ve heard it from the horse’s mouth - TUBA choose his family over his career (I.e. the team). Fine. I would probably do the same. BUT….as a fan of the team, and not your family, may I say: FUCK OFF! The fact that I even know what your wife does tells me how toxic and stupid this situation got to. You have sucked for years. Were overpaid from the get go. You forced your way off of WPG for your own benefit - hmmm, seems to be pattern there. You forced your way to stay here and proceeded to be a completely absent captain. This is addition by subtraction. And the TUBA ERROR comes to the inevitable inglorious end. Outside of a few elbows, it was entirely…forgettable. DRURY is no saint here either. GMCD should have waived this POS the second he kiboshed the summer deal. Then he gives that ridiculous contract to IGOR. It’s HANK-CAP-GATE 2.0. What a disaster. We know how this story ends, lol. Unless the cap doubles the next few years, we are fucked, fucked, fucked.

JFC - The entire team looked like shit the last 3 weeks..including the captain and pretty boys like Fox, Laffy an d so many others...Maybe he didn't accept a trade before because he loved it here in NY, with the players..wanted to move through it with the team..but fianally felt it wasn't possible with the GM

So now he says AGAIN that he didn’t like how it was handled….so again, why does he leave NOW and not before

How has this patty cake pathetic Penguin team won 4 straight? Has Sullivn specifically told them not to initiate physical contact? not that the Rangers are complaining

No one is saying Trouba wasn’t a good Captain….the root word in wasn’t is WAS…he was a good Captain. This year he was shit…he didn’t seem engaged on the ice….hiw many big, open-ice hits did we see? The usual amount? Nope. He wanted to stay put for his family? What about his Rangers family? He said it was hanging over him….he’s admitting he let it effect the way he operates as Captain and he helped create this mess they’re in. He wanted to stay but then put LESS effort into his job. How does this reflect well on him? I don’t care what he has done right now….why did he accept a trade now and not before?

It doesn't necessarily say anything about what the team thinks about Drury's handling of the situation. This is a business. There is a hard cap. Tough choices need to be made. Trouba was making a ton of money. He used what leverage he could in the offseason to prevent a trade and the more this team continued to shit the bed the more it became apparent a big change needed to be made. Here we are....

Rhet0ric - dude, that’s just not true! TROUBA was directly connected to SHESTERKIN’s contract. They couldn’t have kept both. And the second they signed SHESTERKIN, the chances someone would take TROUBA’s whole contract without a pot sweetener? Yeah. Gone. That’s what they were trying to do last summer when Brooks crapped all over everything. The two events are intimately connected.

People on the wall here have bad things to say about Trouba but they don't know shit. Here is what Quick said. He’s been a staple of the team’s leadership core for years as players both admire and respect him. “I can’t say enough about (Trouba) and what he’s meant to this team and this locker room overall," Jonathan Quick said via The Athletic's Peter Baugh. "He’s a great person, great teammate, great captain. Wishing him the best with dealing with all this stuff.” Schneider and others said nearly the same. "All this stuff". Tells you a lot about what team thought of Drury handling things.

Mens league no check game so far...CHYTL always looks best when bull rushing from the right wing

Yes, Drury has been so successful motivating the team…Players can’t allow anything to impact their play…..Bullshit…

Ranger prancing boys should do good in this game, there is no checking whatsoever

Oh, so now the name calling and hate comes out for guy that gave everything he had for the Rangers ..The guy that is the names you use is the incompetent Drury....Oh, MIller and Schneider still look like shit together

JFC. Or a selfish dick. Lol. But you're correct when it comes to him historically being a me-first guy. He held out twice with the Jets then put them between a rock and hard place by forcing a trade to 1 team.

And Trouba is a cunt, how about that? Mealy-mouthed, selfish POS who admits he was just what I said he had become….a BLACK CLOUD over the locker room. He gave a half-assed effort both on the ice and off the ice this season and him and his wife can go fuck themselves. He sounds so noble saying he chose his family over his job….he makes $8 million a year and they couldn’t hire a nanny? He wants to be a multi-millionaire hockey player while his wife plays doctor and then sound noble that he somehow sacrificed? He broke his fucking contract and fucked his team mates with his lack of effort. He also FORCED HIS WAY INTO NY in the first place. He is a selfish cunt.

The rangers could’ve traded Trouba at the draft, but he blocked the move as his agent apparently called teams on his list and hinted he wouldn’t report if traded. He successfully avoided a trade that would’ve been better for NYR, but I don’t begrudge him that, as he wanted his wife to finish her residency. That said, he played poorly this season, lost a step as well as last playoffs when he played hurt, but bottom line he was a 3rd pair D on this team and made $8mm on a team hamstrung by the cap. Drury keeps thing close to the vest, I don’t believe he leaked the shit this summer, I believe it was other teams or agents, but he had a deal with Detroit, his hometown and I don’t blame him for contesting. I respect Trouba who was a warrior here, but this team was being broken up after this season if they didn’t win a cup, and clearly they have been shit since the first 6 games or so. When are the players responsible? Fire the coach? The GM? Play your asses off and shut everyone and everything down- they were warned and the effort was shit. More fallout coming, it’s “the letter” part 2.

Just got back from a wake in NY and see Drury gets Shesty for $11.5 million and we’re still bitching?

hospo.... we will run them out of the building tonight! (not the ice chickens.... the sorry ass fans)

To me Trouba troubles started when Squishface gave him that 8 x 8 contract. It was overpay from the start.

Drury has been fucking this team over with his incompetence for over 2 years of abysmaal moves...Has no clue how to build a Cup contender, manage NHL assets or treat his players...God did he fuck up the Troubs situation and the team leading to his trade for a wortless piece of shit D-man.and leaving the Rangers with a bunch of bllless wonders and mamby pamby defense....But,, he does know how to overpay like with Mika the Meek and IGOR...All that siad, everything depends on the state of the locker room, the psyche of the team and how Drury has left them...We'll see tonight..

guy making $8MM a year is fuckin complaining? GTFO... I hope someone knocks his block off

A thought crossed my mind after the Truba trade......if Trouba had a run in with anyone on this team or just dislikes him......that guy or guys better keep their heads up ,the next time Trouba plays against us.....just sayin'

All of this could've been avoided if DRURY had one little conversation back in the summer. At least that way, they could've kept if quiet and Trouba would've been able to save face.... or, if Drury had shown Trouba that little amount of respect, maybe he even would've accepted a trade back then. We will never know. How much damage has the GM done to this team? I guess we'll find out in the coming days..... I don't blame any of this fiasco on Trouba: IMO, he did the best for him and his family with the hand he was dealt. Best of luck to him in Anaheim.

Well Igor is happy unfortunately there is no team in front of him. Goodrow and trouba 2 toughest players gone . I get the cap issue. Igor better take boxing lessons.

Wrong way druray I hope Trouba sends you a plaque with that statement on it. You wear it well, mr close to the vest with a leaking big mouth and nothing to show for it so far as the almighty gm and president of the Nyr, just like your predecessors for the last 30 years.

gene_carr: The fact that Chytil came back in a relatively short period of time since the most recent "upper body injury" may be indicative that his brain is / has healed. I'm hoping he's overcome a "health-hurdle" and isn't susceptible to concussions. Crosby overcame a hurdle, hopefully Chytil does too, but it's an unknown.

Andrei- maybe you have inside information but I thought captains were picked by the coach?

So Trouba now verifying that almost everyone agreed was true: "Former #NYR??? captain turned Ducks defenseman Jacob Trouba on how things transpired in New York: "I'll be honest, I was put in a decision this summer to make a decision between my career and my family and I chose my family. I would choose my family 100 times over again. I don't feel bad about that. I was happy about it. I don't like that it was made public necessarily or how everything unfolded so publicly, but I guess that's part of New York and what happens. It made it difficult to play kind of what that hanging over everything. The result is the result. I'm happy with moving forward, but I'm not overly thrilled with how it went down. In my opinion, things could've been handled better. I'm not blaming anybody or anything, just kind of how it happened I thought was kind of unfortunate."

That should be.... CHANGE the topic of conversation.... ALSO: If CUYLLE keeps having this type off of season, I would sign him long term.

Let me be perfectly clear. We did not trade Trouba to pay for Igor. Drury waited to announce the IGOR signing until a Trouba trade was done so he could trade the topic of conversation.... With the trade of Trouba: we now have the ability to sign K'Andre Miller long term, but if it were up to me, I would NOT do that. Not with his rumored asking price. JMO, of course.

I can see them coming out flat as a pancake tonight and getting blown pff the ice. I hope not, but it seems inevitable given the current circumstances. This is a night for a leader to step up. I think we may be fresh out, however, and have been for quite some time.

So cap relief to avoid a potential disaster. Shook up the room. Got rid of an issue and the team better be awake now. But in my observation they’re really not weaker for this move. If I’m Drury I’m feeling pretty good about this day.

mf: Agree we need another up and coming center in the mix. Chytil is the most skilled center right now and I would be leery to move him. Potentially he is our first line center. I really like his play. There are players (Crosby) who have come back from serious concussions and played well. IMO too early to try and move him. Brake up the bromance would be my first choice.

What I said: Rangers will need to trade TROUBA before next season, and they asked for his no-trade list early at the draft in case a deal came their way. What thje Feckless Dotard said: The Rangers tried to trade TROUBA, but he blocked the deal and the threatened not to report to any team, thereby removing all ability of the GM to work. And he did it because his wife had one year left on her residency and it's all her fault and he'll probably be traded this summer. LOL. So I'll wait now for Brady TKACHUK to become a Ranger. Gonna happen! Braindead Larry says it! Like GOSPEL!

This is DRURY's attempt to clear the air...and I suspect it won't work...Kevin WEEKS, the guy who actually DOES get insider info, was basically saying the SHESTERKIN deal was forthcoming almost a month ago. Then they got the absolute fuck beat out of them and this funk started...two weeks later, the 'open for business' story dropped. And then two weeks later, TROUBA is gone...this right here is a desperate attempt to correct a problem that is less with the leadership on the ice and more with the guy behind the bench...and I suspect y'all will see this play out...A very similar thing happened in Boston...and you know how that worked out?! Guess where there coach is now.

Oh and by the way let’s have a hip hip hooray for druray who takes lemonade and makes lemons out of it. The best Nyr gm since sather. The vest versus the cigar. Aka shit and sweat….

As the stomach turns … I seem to remember no way are they going to trade Trouba, but I think that was from someone on the sauce. And now the story changes and gets spun into a blanket to coverup.

mf, Rangers were never going to let Shesti walk. Now let's hope that house cleaning is not done.

My head is gonna explode today. I was gonna post before get ready for the red carpet glitz and glam press conference on Igor and they literally did it before I could even post it. This is too much pro and con shit to process. I’m just gonna read everybody else and check out lol

Here are several irrefutable truths: 1. The Rangers had to trade TROUBA or another one of the big contracts...or a couple mid-sized contracts OR trade/risk losing SHESTERKIN. 2. The Rangers got nothing in return for their captain. 3. $6-$6.5 million of the space they have now will go to SHESTERKIN come July 1, so whatever they do with it over the next five months will be temporary. 4. Victor MANCINI is being rushed into a spot that will result in him getting less icetime. 5. The team is weaker, softer, and less experienced and have absolutely nothing to show for it.

Stevie, you will not hear it anywhere, since it's all inside the locker-room, and info like that never get's leaked out. Players vote captains. If Kreider was this team "leader" it only makes sense that players would have voted him in or offered to vote him in? No?

When players with limited NMCs get traded the new team has the right to waive the NMC. Or used to. Dunno if that's the case here but if so McPhee can trade Trouba anywhere now. He'll get a first if he eats half of Trouba's salary especially if Trouba plays well for the Ducks.

Tom427 - Don't need to worry too much about that. He'll probably be on waivers in a couple weeks.

PJ, who said anything that Kreider is not liked by his teammates? I think he is very liked and I also think he is a great team-mate and he is well liked around the league. I like Kreider is a player. That's said, I just don't believe he is this "great" leader in the locker-room, that's all. That's the notion I'm challenging.

BWAHAHAHAHAHA on WHAT fucking planet was Dotard Brooks RIGHT about TROUBA?!? That fucking idiot blamed his wife for nixing the move. OH..look at that being wrong. That guy is stupid as the work day is long. About as close to right as he got was that DRURY was shopping him. That's about it. Oh...and remember that part where he pinned everything on TROUBA's wife?! LOLOLOLOLOL. That fucking idiot also printed a column about them going after TKACHUK. Let's see where THAT whopper goes.

Andrei did your sauce tell you that Kreider was ever offered to be captain and that he has turned it down? At $6 million he’s a bargain even with his bad back and missing rib .

Andrei….I have never heard that Kreider wasn’t liked by his teammates…Just the opposite… Not every player is captain material…Your constant bashing of him and Z is obsessive to say the least…

Mf slow as usual. Larry is Larry brooks who some claim he knows nothing. Stanley is druray as in Stan laurel, and I’m surprised you didn’t ask who is Oliver Lardy. Maybe you should step away from your traderator.

Speaking of the Kreider's non-existent leadership. I'm having hard time believing that Rangers for years went on without a captain and Kreider's being a longest tenure Ranger, that in no point over years, players had not offered him to be captain of the team? Which means he had turned it down at least multiple times with different players on the team. It also means that in no point, he had no interest being a team leader. That goes back to Calli's time, after Calli was traded. Management don't pick captains, players do. So Kreider is this "great" leader who wanted no part being a "leader"? It sure fits his personality, this low key, calm and collected guy.

Keeping Lardy means that the team problems will continue. Wrong way druray has mission accomplished on his vest . He got rid of Goodrow for zero in return except cap space and now he’s finally proved the LB SUMMER RUMOR WAS TRUE on trueba. LARRY TOLD YOU SO! …The odds in Vegas probably doubled today on the Nyr winning the cup. They’ll be lucky to even make the playoffs after laurel and Lardy are finished with this team.

Cmark: At this point, I have no issue with Trouba out & Mancini in. My amateur eye see's Mancini on the fast track to acclimate similar to Schneider. We just shed a bunch of dollars, got younger, and continue the transition to the "next core." jmo-n

Also hard to move Z because everyone else sees his current play. If Z was on another team would we want to trade for him? Lot of risk for a gamble.

MF- Good for them if they can. They should wait for the deadline and retain half his salary. He’ll end up on the Devils or the Canes, lol!

I think one’s view in this trade is dependent on how you view Drury. If you think he conspired to backstab JD and Horton, you feel he is a spineless coward who is as incompetent as he is milquetoast in the personality department. If you are like me, you think he is doing what he can to deal with the cap. I remember he removed himself from consideration for the Penguins GM job while he was still assistant GM. He was obviously promised the GM of the Rangers at some point. The Wilson fiasco sped up the process. I agree Ranger fans will miss Goodrow and a healthy Trouba in the playoffs. But this is a cap world and there are realities. But Trouba and Goodrow are gone and 12M in cap space cleared up.

I haven’t been on Twitter for a bit, but I’m sure there is much jubilation there!

gene_carr: Cand we add Chytil to that trade with Ottawa to get Shane Pinto coming our way too? I like Chytil but we need another center in the organization. jmo-n

I for one don’t fault Trouba for caring about his wife’s career and none of us know what really happened. I still side with any player who wants to use his contract and leverage to do what’s best for him and his family. This isn’t fantasy hockey and this is what a capitalist society is based on. We see things differ As fans. We want guys who only care about the team. But I do t think doing what’s best for the team and what’s best for you as an individual has to be mutually exclusive.

KIS- Term is why he was able to move Trouba and why moving Z is much more difficult. Z would have to waive his NMC AND you need to find a team that can build around him for the next 6 years. Z was a dominant center when he signed his contract. We can bitch all we want about Drury signing him, but Rangers hasn’t had a number one center since Messier. I doubt anyone could have predicted the rapid decline which is why there are still those that think he’ll snap out of it.

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Now the Rangers should focus on bringing in Connor McDavid in UFA in 1.5 years. $15MM a year X 8

I do not say this lightly but Drury is to be commended for this trade. It gives him 8K to make a move or moves. I would guess that Igor's raise was already factored into the long term plan. Tachuck in Ottawa is rumored to be unhappy and wants to move on. I think he is on the radar. If it takes Kreider in my view we are an improved teamif it happens. The rangers would have a whole new look.

Drury gave Trouba away…Drury being portrayed as this quiet competitor that knows what it takes is a joke..He is a little weasel that stabbed his bosses in the back by conspiring with Sather to get the job….JD and Gorton are the ones laughing now…Deal with it Jimmy boy…

Believe me when i say you will hear ranger dans we need a player like trouba. Remember the hits. Remember how he would drop the gloves. Why why why cant drury move zbad.

Also, should be a memo to never again trade for a player who is coming here because of what his wife does for a living.

He obviously isn’t going to a great franchise with almost no chance to win anytime soon. But the lifestyle is pretty good and it ain’t like LA is a bad place for a MD to get a job.

Can't the ducks trade Trouba anywhere now and also eat his salary ? He will be a Devil before the playoffs .

If the reporting is accurate, Drury had a convo with the team and with Trouba... add to it, he was able to say goodbye to his teammates. This should approve the mood in the locker room and hopefully we'll see a weight lifted from this team.... Now we just need to go out and find a defenseman :)

Trouba had to approve wherever he went, so by the property of IPSO FACTO, he would've blocked a trade to the other teams. From a certain point of view :)

Rhet: LOL. Kane isn't coming to NY. I think the next big question is who goes next, especially if the Rangers lose tonight to Shitsburgh.

Any time you get another team to pick up a player with the bloated cap hit, with year and a half left on it and not retaining salary, and get back a warm body that can sent down to AHL, and get a pick back, it's A++ in my book. To think that Trouba was making $8 mil and Drury was able to clear it all? Just wished Drury could have done it in over the summer, but Trouba wanted no part of it.

Nothing wrong with this deal at all. Trouba gone. No salary retained. Who cares about the guy coming back, he’s in Hartford or waved. Salt Lake City the way true had been playing, this is addition by subtraction. Clearly his mind wasn’t in it.

I might need to reassess Drury. Getting rid of Goodrow and Trouba salaries in total without giving up much is impressive. I might forgive him for his Kane love affair

CoMark: Sorry, but with the very public fiasco during the summer with Drury trying to move Trouba to Detroit that resulted in tons of press coverage that has never really gone away (until now I guess), negativity across the board resulted that impacted Trouba's play and with that because he became a lame-duck captain, the team overall. We'll never know but I cannot help believe that whatever return Yzerman was prepared to give up is a lot more than a fringe NHLer who likely will be with the Pack shortly and jettisoned from the organization July 1 2025.

In terms of available cap space the Ranger now sit 27th in the league. That's how much Trouba pulls down.

Mission accomplished. No salary retention and message is sent, loud and clear. Drury means business. Kreider is next, that unless he steps up with his game, but he has a very, very short runway. This is not just about this season, this is about team's culture change and major shifts in team's leadership.

I disagree with the belief that Drury made Trouba’s value less. His cap hit was detrimental for what he currently brings. I liked his toughness but his defense was pretty poor at the end of last season and all but the first few games of this season. I thought for sure we’d be bringing back a terrible contract and including an asset. But if it’s his leadership that is a problem, this is addition by subtraction. Hoping Mancini is ready (I think he is) but I like Trouba for the most part.

I would have gladly accepted Gudas back in return in a "swap of the captains trade."

BTW, the 4th rounder is conditional: New York receives the lower of Anaheim or Detroit 2025 4th round pick

The kid is on the IR list: https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/hockey/news/ducks-urho-vaakanainen-placed-on-injured-reserve/

VCP: I would probably take sather back at this point . That is how bad Drury is. A quiet weirdo.

Giacomin... Totaslly agree. Mancini will be more physical then some expect. We still need to go out and get a banger, hopefully for Fox.

VAAKANAINEN is a bust. Pure and simple as that. Strongly doubt he'll be qualified at the end of the season.

TD: Oh come on dude, we all know you well enough by now: You LOVE saying I told you so.

rf4l Don’t think Schneider and Mancini on right side will be wimpy but if Drury got cap space more toughness would be nice, it seemed like Trouba lost his edge with Rangers don’t know those great hits were coming anymore!

Imagine trading your captain for a fringe player and a 4th rounder? More crappy asset management courtesy of a dude who clearly is in over his head. Drury screwed things up in the summer and created an untenable situation where he made Trouba basically worth nothing.

Drury is a total incompetent unless there is another deal in the works. I think the effort tonight on the ice will be something ranging from zero to "please beat us by ten goals because we don't want to play for these clowns anymore."

rf4L: or it’s the actual reality that Trouba has more value than fans give him. Like I have said all along.

The new FINN is a LHS D'man: https://www.hockey-reference.com/players/v/vaakaur01.html

V is a former first round pick of the Bruins (18th overall) who clearly is an NHL/AHL tweener. This is pure salary dump and the fact that Drury accomplished that without giving anything like picks up is a feat on its own (for him). That said, the Rangers are now even more wimpier today.

They traded for a guy already on IR! At least we didn't give up a pick and retained no salary. A win in my books. Next up,. Mika

Offical trade call with the league hasn't happened yet, so still pending that approval, but it will be defenseman Urho Vaakanainen and a fourth-round pick to the Rangers for Trouba. Ducks take on full Trouba contract. No salary retained by Rangers.

Hospo, longtime lurker but I’m pretty sure you remember me. Aren’t you a central virginia/Charlottesville guy? If so, any good Ranger bars/ fan stuff going on? Moved recently about a half hour away from Charlottesville not exactly hockey country! Any thouhts much appreciated and if my memory is off my apologies. Thanks

if a pick is involved. This team is so week I probably take Gudas over zegras . I should just start drinking early.

I will repeat: Watch Dreary Drury give up picks to get Trouba moved. It's his MO after all.

lliotte Friedman @FriedgeHNIC.... Brendan Lemieux (CAR) is on waivers -- unconditional to terminate contract

Leave it to wrong way drurray to continue to try to fix the Trouba mess he made. In the meantime if he doesn’t give Lardy the riot act on his 5-5 play in their o zone with the shoddy play defensively, he’s just rearranging the chairs on the titanic.

Vatrano? He of 6 goals in 23 games this year? Freakin' HARD pass. Enough of trying to placate the Bromancers. ENOUGH

Vatrano has come back down to reality this season. He is on pace for just 20 goals. Maybe they hold onto him for the deadline, maybe not. Tough to say.

VATRANO- ah the bromance whisperer. Not sure why they would trade him, he has excelled as a goal scorer.

Shonuff. As long as i can't make a trade Drury is at the helm ..We should not expect much. We dump his salary and get Marcel Dionne back. Sather must be laughing!!!!!

foitu22 - LOL very true! Oh and I hear you. The very strange part about being tongue-and-cheek with the Rangers these days is that their GM seems to operate along those lines! Nothing surprises me any more...oh and I TOTALLY agree this is a step back. Probably, TBH, a precursor to a partial maybe even full reset...Glass half full? The Caps seemed to spiraling into a rebuild and they managed to right the ship...But you kinda have to have a GM with a brain to do that.

ZEGRAS has been struggling horribly with the DUCKS and he could really use a change of scenery as well.... but I think he's currently out with an injury.

TD... yeah, we talked about Vatrano for Trouba before. Also: I think any Trouba deal will include us eating some money(not including waivers).

TD- was saying it tounge and cheek. I might be in the minority but I think we will miss Trouba in the playoffs…if we even make them. I’m all for team toughness and I think think this is another step back. Obviously something needs to be done with this team/coach/org…just not sure this is the right move. Don’t see it changing much. And agreed…I’ll be shocked if we get anything of value in return. Don’t think drury announcing everybody is available was a great bargaining tool. It’s like Toys R Us going bankrupt and expecting to receive full value for all of their toys…

E - LOL, yeah, that wouldn't even get a foot in the door. Brady TKACHUK is probably one of maybe five or six players that simply would never be traded. He's about as safe as McDAVID and MATTHEWS at this point.

Tell me Othmann, Schneider and a 1 for Brady? All day, everyday I do that but it’s never gonna happen.

The recent rumors have been that Trouba would prefer a West Coast team. If Anaheim is indeed interested, that would seem to be a no brainier to me. I have no idea what a return might be.

fotiu22 - Honestly? That's not as far-fetched as conventional reason might suggest. THAT is about the return TROUBA is likely to bring.

FuckFace McDotard was saying Brady TKACHUK?!?! BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHA What a fucking idiot. Ain't no way Ottawa is trading him unless he does what his brother did. And guess what? He's signed for the next four years.

At least Drury is dealing from a position of strength! Nothing ever surprises me with this organization. I should have my head examined for caring so much.

DREGER shutting down Brooks made up shit, just Anaheim, Detroit and CBJ interested in TROUBA and no Brady talks. Detroit seems like a no brainer, isn’t he from Detroit?

Makes no sense for Ottawa to trade Brady but if they did the trade would have to be stupid. OTHMAN, LAF or KK, SCHNEIDER and multiple #1s.

It's good to know that Drury finally cleared the air with the team. WTF took so long? At this point, Trouba is an addition by subtraction. He has been in a fog and not been much more than a constant distraction. It's better for both him and the team to just move on... The most important moves will be the ones Drury makes next (in the coming days/weeks). Lindgren is an UFA and we need to get something ion return for him. Miller should also go. No way I'm paying him $6-7 Mil per on his next contract for such mediocre defense. Let him put it all together somewhere else. Just make sure we get back quality back in return for him.

Well, we are in an interesting spot this morning aren’t we? I do remember some clueless jackass on this website advocating for the Rangers trading the number one overall pick when they want it to Ottawa for Brady Tkachuk. Clueless as I was then, it makes me laugh this morning, thinking about it. Why would Ottawa even think of trading Brady Tkachuk and what could the Rangers possibly put together in a package that would bring him back? Life for a year would obviously have to go. But what else? Make no mistake, I would love to have that guy as a Ranger. Ask for Jacob Trouba, I am torn. The Rangers treat their players like gold. That is a consensus around the league. But the good thing and the trooper thing for two departures from that. Truba has to go because he’s acting like he doesn’t wanna be there during the games it’s frankly incredible. It just seems like he’s playing not to get hurt. There’s no physical aspect to this game and he’s flat footed all the time. It’s clear he’s doesn’t wanna be there. I’m still puzzled as to why Crider’s name was on that list, but of course we don’t know what goes on in the locker room and behind the scenes. While I respect that the players have won themselves, the ability to determine where it is they’re going to play or at least a no trade list. It’s still a business and it has to be run like a business. Look how ruthless Tampa has been with players, yet their contender for all of these use and a couple cups. i’m not a truly defender. But I also don’t think he’s going anywhere so the Rangers are gonna have to make the best of it with him in charge. It does make sense that if a guy doesn’t wanna be there move them on the next few days should be interesting.

Its done now. I dont agree with it. This team is soft and you get rid of your two toughes players in goodrow and trouba. Drur you screwed the pooch. Why? So you could get more money to sign Igor. Idiot, you should have gotten rod of zbad. Ive said it for over two years. Smh. I hate that i love this fucki g team

NCRanger, you and me, both. I would love to see this core dismantled and put back together with the right players that actually show up every night. This ballet on ice has to stop. I don't think Rangers team was this "free-defense" and "free-contact" oriented since the Czech-mates era..

Moping and not scoring and avoiding physicality wherever possible is not leading ny example AFAIC.

https://nypost.com/2024/12/06/sports/rangers-sit-jacob-trouba-in-likely-end-to-new-york-tenure/

JFC31, agree 100%. That's called being a good teammate, when a vet works with kids. A lot of vet's do that. Some work with centers on draws, if the vest is a pro on faceoffs, etc. That's however, does not mean that vet is a great leader. Most player are not leaders. We don't know what goes behind the scene, but there is something is really wrong with this core. Something tells me that real leaders in the room are the kids, like Lafr and Cuylle. They seems to be leader type and I'm pretty sure they were in juniors.

DRURY as a GM has had his pluses. Trading with other GMs has NOT been one of them. Here are some greatest hits: a 2nd and a 5th for SMITTY Jr. A 4th for RUHWEDEL. EMBERSON for NEMETH, a 2nd and a 3rd. COPP for BARRON, a 1st, 2nd and 5th. REAVES for a third rounders...and EVERYONE'S favorite, Sammy BLAIS and a 2nd for BUCHNEVICH...Folks, if teams are sniffing around TROUBA, the reason they are is because they know they're about to get him either for free or in exchange for a player who really no one wants.

One thing is for sure...If they even sniff the playoffs this season, they will need...a Jacob Trouba. Panzy hockey before now what will post Trouba be ????? Does VCP have an answer ?lol

Hospo…Mancini and Jones have actually been pretty good defensively….Better than Miller and Lindgren for sure…Trocheck likely next captain if they choose to name one….I guess if they get rid of Trouba and Kreider we will get better play from Fox, Lindgren, Miller, Z, Laff and Trocheck….Sorry, just don’t see it…

I have mentioned this before but being a diehard Rangers and Cowboy fan I cannot believe how similar they are on most things. Both win divisions and although the Rangers get farther in the playoffs both are very overmatched usually in the end. Both basically ran the same team back and both also lost a little of what they had. Both did not address glaring weaknesses, and both have a "leader" who bought the entire team down. Trouba and "we fukin suck" Dak. Both have bad coaching in place and both have a GM that seems to hurt the team daily. The glaring difference is one entire organization has a no talk gag order while the other can't shut up publicly. Just sucks

JFC31 - Just saying that we're not getting shit for TROUBA. Maybe another bad contract, but I doubt even that. If the word is that they're using waivers as ploy, that means they're prepared to lose him for nothing. Also, just saw that JENNER is out for six months, maybe the season...so there's that!

Trouba is as good as gone. IMO, he has until 2 pm to pick a team that HS a deal in place that our shitty GM has pre-arranged. If not, he goes on waivers and just May go to CLB. Trick situation. I’d love for them to do the same thing w/ Mika. He’s done. I’d love to take a sledgehammer to this core, but IMO it will more of an unsuccessful stab at a modified re-tool

TD - look at Jenner’s point totals and games played. The one year he managed to play 82 games, he had 34 points. And who says that a deal involving Trouba is just him involved?

andrei - I tend to agree about the Bromance Bros. They (especially Z)probably think that “leading by example” should be good enough when in fact it is not…and they don’t even do that very well. Kreider seems to like to lick his spots and mentor young players which is all well & fine but true leadership involves leading everyone! Very good points about how Florida approached their situation…

Pure speculation on my part, but if its Columbus maybe a package involving Ivan Provorov and Sean Kuraley? Provorov is UFA next year so is definitely getting moved this year. Doesn't replace grit on the blue line but he's an effective first passer. Only problem is that we will be losing a first rounder in the process or someone like Othmann.

JENNER? LOL. Dude, if DRURY gets more than a mid-pick and a B-prospect, I will be floored. The reason so many teams are interested is because he's willing to give him away. This is a fantastically awful development for the season, but I guess they wanted to push the timeclock up.

When was the last time we didn't trade our captain? Anyone? Anyone? I believe it was Chris Drury lol

If team is looking to trade their captain, leadership core is crap and in most cases, it's part of the divide in the locker-room. This idea that winning "Presidents" trophy somehow means that everything was great that season and somehow team has to be "great" the following year is just non-realistic. There could be major issues with the team, but they played well enough together on the back of a play of star players who usually have had excellent years that season. But that does not mean that team was "great". In most cases, teams that win "Presidents" trophy's never win the cup. Why is that? Will use Florida is an example. After 120+ point season and swept loss to TB in the 2nd round, they did wholesale changes, trading their major core piece and team's star in Huberdeau as well as a core d-man Weegar for Tkachuk. I think Huberdeau wore an "A" that season. We have no idea what goes on the locker-room, but in my opinion, neither "Bromance" loverboys are "leaders" and fact that they think they are, is major part of the problem. Really believe that there is a major riff in the locker-room between "vets" and core of the young players.

Hospo - the only way Mika the Meek is on a Cup winner is as a 3rd line center. His importance to this team needs to be reduced to less ES time, PK and PP time, which should also be reduced if he can’t get his shit together. Sorry, but you can’t have a lame-dick Captain, especially if that lame duck is not leading the way he did before. Trouba’s post game presence has been reduced to very little and he stopped throwing big open-ice hits, most likely because they can be just as dangerous to one’s health as the recipient’s. When a President is a lame duck, his own party allies stop listening and start choosing sides. No kne wants to step into the void for fear of looking a usurper or maybe some purposely step up to angle for the captaincy. It’s just not healthy IMO

The Wings are reportedly still interested in Trouba but they'd have to clear out some more cap space. Ottawa may also be a choice as the NYR's have had a ton of conversations with them and they need a D-man bad.... There have also been some rumors that Buffalo would be interested in him if he ends up on the waiver wire

C'mon Hospo....you know Z-bad will step up his toughness to compensate for the loss of Trouba!

https://www.yardbarker.com/nhl/articles/new_york_rangers_star_reportedly_declined_trade_to_vancouver_canucks/s1_17450_41357827

They trade Troubs, they better find a d-man with some balls and attitude right quick....what they have now without him is laughable physically

Just my $.02, I don't think Drury is or ever has really wanted to move Kreider. I think the recent play saying he was open for business and the Trouba play today is his way of saying to the entire group that things need to change and if you think I'm just going to fire the coach you're mistaken. CK is the longest tenured Ranger and him stating he's taking offers on him lets everyone know they can be shipped out at any time.

Where else could Trouba be going than Chicago or Detroit.? And what else will Drury have to throw in to avoid eating salary? And…..is Trouba the problem in the locker room? After how badly Drury messed up this Summer……..I can imagine that there are hard feelings. But the core seems to,have aged out inside of one year. Other than Panarin…….of course. Could this be a vaporization of the core and another rebuild?

Is Drury trying to fix/save the team..or blow it up???...JFC totally disagree with you on TROUBS not stepping back into the lock room...He did everything within his rights and wanted to stay nd play with hi teamates who he loved..I bet no one player held it against...It waas a DRURY fuck up just like Goodrow's poor disrespectful handling..and the letter of last week...So we trade Troubs, Kreider, one or two young players, maybe Lindgren....but we keep Mika the Meek which will ensure they nnever win a cup..

What’s Drury’s deadline to Trouba? Is it an Old West high noon or a get outa town by sundown Brown?

The rumors have been that Trouba would be willing to accept a deal to a West Coast team... Per Elliotte Friedman @FriedgeHNIC.... Okay, Jacob Trouba:.... Hearing Rangers do have several options, but Trouba can block with his partial no-trade. Rangers have indicated they will waive him if he does not accept one. One team is believed to be Columbus.... This is absolute hardball, but there is a precedent. In November 2005, Todd Marchant refused to waive his no-trade from Columbus to Anaheim as part of the Sergei Fedorov deal. So the Blue Jackets waived him, and the Ducks made the claim to "complete" the transaction. We will see what the day brings

RF - Fox would be a disaster….he leads himself and has manipulated the system just like Trouba did

Apparently there is more than one offer on the table and Drury is letting Trouba pick where he goes under the threat that if he refuses to pick one he'll go on waivers.

JFC. I'm betting no C will be put on anyone now. It's time for a younger player to have that. That said, maybe it'll be Fox...

E - I dunno…if Trouba has a chance to choose his destination rather than leave it up to chance, might he find that more attractive? If he knows the teams that have offers on the table and Drury says, “pick one”, at least he has a chance to sit down with his wife, do some quick research and decide what the best fit is.

SCHNEID: I dont think Drury is thinking nuclear option here. I think he is gonna try to up to grit and speed of the team as best he can. How much he can do in the regular season? As evidenced by the last 4-5 years probably not much unless we are much closer to the trade deadline. But nonetheless outside of whatever happens with Trouba I wouldn’t be surprised if he cuts bait on another premium player. And maybe some ancillary guys. I wouldn’t want to be Miller or Lindgren today.

Friedman saying Trouba going to BJs. Why do I get the feeling it'll cost the Rangers more draft picks?? I don't trust Dreary Drury as far as I could throw him.

Hospo - I know everyone is ripping into Drury but could it be his big mistake was being TOO RESPECTFUL and allowing Trouba to dictate the situation? I mean, to meantgere is no fucking way Trouba should have been allowed back in that locker room…especially as Captain. THAT was the big mistake Drury made…and as a former leader himself, Drury should have known better. Trouba ended up being a black cloud and a distraction….

I believe the most likely outcome is Trouba being placed on waivers, with a team ready to claim him. I’m skeptical about how much trade value he holds given his current on-ice performance compared to his cap hit.

I could see Chicago wanting some protection for Bedard. Trouba could be part of building that….

Arthur Staple: Drury sent out a memo to the NHL’s 31 other GMs two weeks ago saying he’d listen to offers, specifically ones about Trouba or veteran forward Chris Kreider. Now Drury is signaling his willingness to go down the same path he did with Barclay Goodrow in June — possibly waiving Trouba so a team on his 15-team no-trade list can claim him and not have to surrender anything in return. The threat of waivers could also pressure Trouba to waive his no-trade clause so he has some control over where he ends up. According to The Athletic’s Pierre LeBrun, the Rangers have multiple deals on the table involving Trouba but all would require waiving the no-trade.

If DRURY really has the balls to trade part of the NYR core, he will do it with respect like trading Trouba to CHI or DET, Kreider to BOS, etc. What I really wonder is what he does with his 2 Russian players... Panarin has 1 year to go on his deal, will he waive his NMC if he doesnt like the shake up? If so, does Drury fold this year and deal Shesterkin at the deadline and go full nuclear rebuild?

RF4L - Not sure if you've seen what is in the Hawks' system right now...but...suffice to say? They will NOT be bad for much longer. The talent they have right around the corner is pretty intense...well actually, VERY intense. I mean, you never know. But some of the top guys they drafted before BEDARD are still top-tier players but are down in the double digits on their prospect depth chart because they're THAT deep. Like Oliver MOORE. That dude is a banging prospect. Would be number two in our system. There? I'm not sure he even breaks 15.

The leadership of Troubs nd Krieder was great last year with a team that fought for each other and never quit...All of a sudden they are shit leaders?This is a fucked up concoction of Drury's making, and I don't know the particulars but he won't get good value on his deals noew and I don't trust him one iota to make deals to make it better..unless you consider playing for the cup in 4 years better....Tonight will be interesting

Ha. If TROUBA is in fact being traded, then this team is about to really hit the skids, because there's no way he's bringing back what they're going to need. But...I'll believe it when I see it.

Now if we could just pry LAUZON and O’REILLY out of Nashville. Gonna miss TROUBA trains.

And if anybody thinks the Rangers will go with BOTH Mancini, who likely needs more time in the AHL, and Jones..well, let's just say that D will get wrecked all year..I t will too with Troubs unless he and the team come back together

Wow on TROUBA....Prelude to trade..or Drury putting the screws to him? Either way, if he is NOT any part of any locker-room in fighting, this could be a horror show tonight against a hot team..Let's see how the team reacts...Must See TV

Excellent news! Take the sledge hammer to that "leardershipless" core. Hopefully, it is one of many to come. Go get them, Drury!..

Mollie Walker: Jacob Trouba will not be on the ice today for purposes of roster management, The Post's Larry Brooks reported. He will not play tonight vs. Pittsburgh. Victor Mancini to be recalled. This appears to be a prelude for a trade for the Rangers captain.

Larry Brooks just now said Trouba has been scratched for tonite but since I did not see it on the wall I am not sure.

So the Hawks who have little talent besides Connor Bedard despite having in the past 3 drafts 8 firsts, 5 seconds and 8 thirds, fired their coach yesterday. Like it's his fault. What a joke of a franchise that is now.

JFC. That lifelong devotion is actually a curse set upon us by someone very very mean.

Hospo. Lol. I like it! BTW Barfalo just list their 5th straight game. Ottawa and Detroit are schufflling along. Surely there's a deal to be made with at least 1 of those clubs. Shitsburgh tonight - my gosh another Ranger horrorshow might result in Drury's dismissal. His lack of response could end up being the nails on his Ranger coffin.

Hah..I was just spitting chicklets with that but just looked and Kreider-ZBAD-Lindgern for Forsberg-O'Reily-Lauzon is almost an exact wash in dollars and years..ANd hey, they cqn hve Big COuntry Bck and we get Brunette..OK, I'll put my bong down now

RF4L Bromancers for Bromncers!!..Kreider and ZBAD for Forsberg & O'Reily! add in Lindgren or Troba and Bring back Lauzon!!!

JFC - "My lifetime Rangersl devotion has a red flashing dissipation light flashing and I’m not getting younger! "...Hah..You and me buddy! Why we feel the same way with what the team needs to do now...Put their big pants on and fix this fucker! Of course, if the damage is irrepairable and they shit their big boy pants, well, we're shit out of luck!

Jfc31 if he isn't taking 11-11.5 then he walks anyway.....can't pay him 12 or more my opinion...

I find it really amazing how so many people on Rangers social media are so glib and willing to just start “retooling” by trading Shesty and many other players who are virtually UNTRADEABLE because of NMC’s. The Rangers Cup window was legitimately flung open LAST SEASON. GG’s 1st season was a fun joy ride…they weren’t ready to won a Cup. LAST SEASON was the 1st season that they had a legit shot and now were supposed to start over and give up on the best goalie in the world with revenues ZOOMING and the cap set to rise by huge amounts going forward? Get TF outta here with that shit. My lifetime Rangersl devotion has a red flashing dissipation light flashing and I’m not getting younger! Shesty ain’t going anywhere….get fucking used to it. We need to get this team back on track….not BLOW it up. That’s what we’d be doing by letting Shesty go…blowing this shit up and waiting some more anguishing years to get the right mix.

Trade shesty now free up cap space .....let's start a GoFundMe for shesty.....the goalie with no D in front of him.

TDCHI - Who are you freaking kidding? You love it..!..................But, yeah, only trades to be made right now are likely bad ones are fringe ones….live or die with what you have….hope the team breaks through to the other side stronger..if they don't, coach goes..that doesn't work……then sell…but creativity and roster remodleing is usually for the off season..and usually not one of Drury’s skills!...Everybody screamed about the Rangers lack of depth at C and the CHYTL fragility since last year...that's all on DRURY....CHYTL gets hurt AGAIN..play Kakkao at center...until near the deadline where it will or won't be worth to try and improve the position…....I still have no clue why the Rangers did not commit to turning EDSTROM into a full time Center, makes so much more sense than with REMPS..

Hate to be the Debbie Downer here, but let's get a couple things straight: The Rangers absolutely CANNOT afford to eat salary...not a dime of it. Not now. Probably after the season either. They are too tight on the cap, and even IF they get rid of a big contract, all that money is going to SHESTERKIN...so if you're trad-o-rating, take that into consideration...there is one caveat I'll mention, but it's silly...so next point: The Rangers have ZERO...I repeat...ZERO center prospects that will be anywhere near NHL ready anytime before March. No one. The closest two we have are GROULX and LESCHYSHYN. So if we're trading Z, unless there's an NHL-ready center that can step into first-line minutes? Check yourself right there...Z to the Stars is a fun thought and all, but 1. who are they sending back? And 2. why in the fuck wouldn't they just look for an internal solution, given all the centers they have? OH...and...who is going to replace him? Let's say for a crazy hot, wet, and wild minute that they send Mavrik BOURQUE back...the Rangers...who NEED to make the playoffs...are going to go on with TROCHECK and CHYTIL as their top two centers?! C'mon...The PINTO business makes a bit more sense...Dude is from New York. American-born. And his only path forward is out of Ottawa. He will be traded, it's just a matter of when and where. But that said? He's not a player that's going to be flipped for a late-round pick. You're looking at a roster player, for sure. KAKKO is probably the ask, if I were to bet. Might be able to do something like MANCINI and BERARD, but who's up for that? The Rangers are about as bad of a trade partner as they come. The assets they have are going to be needed next season. They desperately need to hold onto their first rounder, because they traded away all of there second, third and fourth rounders. The players they might want to move have large trade-restricted contracts and the players most teams would want are, as aforementioned, desperately going to be needed once the SHESTERKIN contract is signed...THAT is why whatever that stupid story about "Drury listening to all offers" from FREIDMAN and the fucktastic dotard were so stupid...because even a fucktastic dotard could...or SHOULD...understand that the Rangers are between a rock and a hard place. Their only moves are lateral until they find a team that is utterly desperate. And by utterly? I mean UTTERLY.

JFC/Hospo/RF/et al: Jones seems to now be tall enough to get on the rides at 6 Flags and I'm warming up to keeping him as the 3rd pair LHSD and as an option for PP2. IF we can acquire a LHS Schneider/Mancini type for Lindgren we could keep Jones. There's no way I'd trade KAKKO, this guy looks like he's about to have an increase in productivity akin to Laffy's of last season. One place I think Kakko can improve is awareness of when a quick touch of the puck to a teammate as opposed to holding on to establish a longer term puck possession play. KaKKo was a score for us, 1st round #2 for reasons, it's still time to be patient with this guy. jmnsho naturally

“When asked about Igor Shesterkin’s recent seven-game stretch, when the star goaltender has gone 2-5 with a .903 save percentage, Rangers coach Peter Laviolette said, “I think we’re all in the same boat here, right?”…. Yes not enough defense in the offensive zone , right coach? You never mention that, why?

I'm Bullish on KAKKAO also...and do not want to trade him...and not for Pinto..The only spot where Pinto trumps Kakkao, to me, is he's a center..and i do see that...but I think KK is a better player, a better 2-way player, and built for success in the POs if given the chance.....AH, that's the qustion.. IS Laviolette bullish on Kakkao? and will Laviolette give him the ice time he deserves?..I think we will see in the next week...

mf - right now, Kakko is at his highest value he’s been at in quite a while. He’s gonna be UFA eligible in a couple years. Pinto has a higher PPG average than Kakko. I also forget to throw Zac Jones into the Traderator….I mentioned a couple of times here that I think the Rangers are high on Mancini and are showcasing Jones

JFC: Please, do not trade KaKKo! IMO PINTO is a great target for acquisition. RHS Center, age appropriate for the upcoming Core. Buff's Dylan Cozens as well, and wouldn't mind both if we go the re-tool path. What does OTT want in return? IF we trade TROUBA, we have MANCINI to fill his spot, risky, but worth the risk. IF we trade Lindgren & not Trouba, we probably have the RHS Mancini on the LHS which is Not terrible. IF we trade both Trouba & Lindgren, we need the consummate LHS D'man who checks all the boxes on our wish-list. Where do we start? SMITH for Pinto? Chytil for Pinto?

Re Peca possibly replacing Lardiolette: Isn't Peca the PP coach? If so, does he have carte blanche to use whatever personnel he chooses and if so, pass on him becoming the next head coach. He refuses to take Z off PP1! Unless, of course, Lardiolette is dictating who plays where...

JFC: From what I remember Troubas wife didn't need the US for work, just the residency program. Something about what her specialty is or something like that. There were like 2 or 3 spots in the US that also had NHL teams and basically none in Canada NHL team or not. At least with available slots. IF that is true, she may be able to land a job at a facility near an NHL city up north. I would imagine that she will (likely has already) be applying to places in many NHL cities, and then when she has a handful of offers Trouba will go to Drury and ask if he can reset his no trade list and add the cities that she has offers. Her residency ends this spring. By now she will know if she will be cleared to continue on with her career and will be starting to look for a full-time gig for the next stage of her career.

Can’t believe Im in NYC and it’s like the only week the Rangers aren’t playing all week in a month plus. So at least went to Mercer Labs. Gotta fly out tomorrow so missed out. Hopefully I’ll be back in February.

Elliott Friedman is reporting that Ottawa is a team that has shown much interest in making a deal with the Rangers…there are Rangers assets they are interested in. It seems to me that Shane Pinto should be available….he's only getting 3rd line minutes and his stats are way down. Let’s face it, the Rangers are gonna need to replace Chytil at some point…it just seems inevitable. Pinto can play wing for the Rangers and then step in at C if Chytil gets hurt. Drury absolutely needs to secure a Chytil insurance policy at C. I could foresee a multi-player deal being worked out with Kakko, Lindgren maybe Trouba but I doubt it because his wife needs a US residency.

All that said, I think the Rangers are gonna try for at least a few more games to dig out of the shit with what they have..Berard-SMith and Vesey-Laviolette's Pet being the only fluctuations

RF4L - I like that ZBAD to Dallas rumor!!! Don't buy it, but like it! Problem is, ZBAD doesn't play hockey the way they like to on Dallas or other teams vying for the Cup...On GOODIE. Loved him as a Ranger, especially as a leader and PO performer which the Rangers are so short on for both....That said, I don't think his absence plays into this funk...Now, how Drury dealt with him and Troubs ovr the summer and followed by his assinine letter a few weeks ago is another story

RF, the salaries of professional athletes have gone ballistic. NY Yankees free agent Juan Soto will command approximately $50MM per year on a 12-15 year term. This is today's marketplace regardless of our feelings and opinions about it.. zibanejad is a very good hockey player, so is Krieder, together at even strength, not good.

mf: If it means Z stays, then I disagree. And signing Igor to what he allegedly wants will be a HUGE mistake that'll handcuff this dumbass organization for the next 8 years.

RF: I posted that thought here yesterday. As for eating salary longer than this season and possibly next, a big fat NO! Take back some short term salary in the trade but NO longer term carrying of dead space salary, we've done that with buyouts, no need to go there with trade. That's money that could go toward Shesty. That's why we'd want to limit taking back salary to this season alone. Capish?

Here's a rather interesting rumour: Zbad to Dallas. Dallas is looking for a top 6 centre due to Tyler Seguin having to undergo hip surgery that's projected to keep him sidelined for 4 to 6 months. Seguin is pulling in $1,000,000 more than Zbad and therefore with him going on LTIR until likely the end of the regular season, Zbad's contract can easily be accommodated. One could argue that it's temporary because Seguin has 2 more years left on his deal after this but 1) this sort of surgery/injury could be career ending and 2) Jamie Benn who is making $9,500,000 is an UFA this summer. Of course it would mean Zbad has to waive his NMC but going to Dallas isn't exactly a move to Winnipeg or going to a shitbox team like Barfalo or Ottawa. What would come back would depend to a certain extent how willing Drury is to eat some salary. Retaining something like $2,000,000 would up the return. Another rumour has Dallas looking at Nazim Kadri who makes $1,500,000 less than Zbad but is 3 years older. Likely all speculation but interesting to ponder nonetheless.

LIMBO: Go for it, let's try P/Z/ and "pick a wing." Leave no stone unturned :->)

MF - maybe advanced stats prove me wrong the few times they have been together, but I have said for a while now to put the prancy boys on a line together. PANARIN has shown he can create reg season offense, almost despite whoever is his C. ZBAD can still play patty cake with his buddy on the PK. Like I said, maybe it was tried and it was a train wreck. But would the actual results be that much worse than we have now? At least it’s something different. TBH - I still say that 3/6 of our Dmen is the real issue. However, unless you swap a body out, you can only tinker there so much.

Andrei: FWIW, I agree. The Bromance twins needed to be separated. Had they been, I think we could have retained Goodrow and forgone trading for Smith, the dollar amounts were a wash. Personally I was holding out one last chance of hope that there was a Wing out there that would complete a Kreider/Zbad/?RW? line, but I sold myself on that train of thought, the answer as several here proclaimed was to break them up onto different lines and that still seems to be the answer. IF that is the current intention, and if we're keeping Cuylle/Chytil/KaKKo together, this poses an issue, I don't see Panarin & Z'Bad on the same line at ES.

Guys, I'm not gonna pat DRURY on the back at all, but c'mon with this GOODROW business. He HAD to go. There wasn't a choice about it. There's a slight chance they could've limped by with him...Swap out CARRICK's $1 million with a Hartford player and you save $200K. Swap out SMITTY Jr.'s $3.75 million for a Hartford player and you now have $3.1 million...Keep in mind, this is putting BERARD in the top nine and maybe keeping REMPE. And you're still $400K shy of GOODY's money...so that means either no seventh defenseman or no 13th forward. For argument's sake, let's say that means ditching RUHWEDEL...You roll into this season with this: KAKKO-Z-KREIDER, LAF-TROCHECK-PANARIN, BERARD-CHYTIL-CUYLLE, EDSTROM-GOODROW-REMPE/BRODZINSKI...and THAT would give you just about $350K in cap space...Now...THAT said...I would've much rather had this lineup than to lose a second rounder, have a more-or-less useless SMITTY Jr. and CARRICK, who is passable on a good day...And that sort of sitch would've opened a spot for OTHMANN too, though he would've cost the Rangers another $100K in cap...Guess you could also swap GROULX and REMPE...Either way, you're going into the season with one extra player on the roster, almost no cap space and basically four rookies...five if you want to consider JONES...I would've been fine doing that...BUT...then you get to the off-season. And SHESTERKIN'S contract. And then you're dead in the water, because then not only do you need HIS cap space, but also TROUBA's...and then teams KNOW they have you over a barrel. San Jose did us a favor for no cost, probably BECAUSE they wanted someone like GOODY with CELEBRINI. Would they do that in June 2025? Hmm...I kinda doubt that...so...GOODROW? Great soldier. Shitty contract. He was a deadman walking as soon as the last second ticked off the 2023-24 season.

I get the Goodrow nostalgia, but team is operating in the cap world and Rangers, needed to clear cap room to brig in a winger to play with Bromance, and since Goodrow never found a place on that line, and was used on the 4th line by Lavi, that $ cap hit is hard to ignore. So since no winger on the roster could play with those two, a new face had to be brought in. If anyone to blame for this, it's those two lover-boys, and the stubborn coach. Don't see how Drury factors in as a blame here.

Vancouver's Kiefer SHERWOOD: RHS RW $1.5mill this season & next: https://www.hockey-reference.com/players/s/sherwki01.html --- https://puckpedia.com/team/vancouver-canucks

Yup agree on Goodrow. I get the cap hit situation and I bet it was just move one that would have continued with Trouba and maybe more. But what I don’t understand is IF the goal is to win the cup then how do you get rid of one of your best PO performers then have mo plan to replace him? This team needs a few more guys like Goodrow, not less. This team as built tight now will go no farther than we have seen in the past three years. Moves have to be made. ‘There is Always next year’ is so Mets- Jets- and Rangers.

Oh and if Drury is making moves Dimitri Voronkov would be an excellent return. And then get me some speed.

I think Goodrow is missed. He is a big presence, big voice in the locker room and on the ice he is nails. Right now he is back in San Jose and he is bringing what he does to that team. Hes receiving top line minutes with Celebrini. And while he should never be a top line player on a good team he is one of the leaders of that team. Im not gonna argue the salary because yeah it was a big number. But that aside Im not sure how aware people are about the kind of impact Goodrow was making in so many areas of the team culture. I think he is a big presence and he is missed.

Reading what punchrolfe wrote reminded me of what has occurred to me for some time, namely there is nothing in it for the players to play responsibly early in the season. It actually is in their best long term earnings to play a loose game, early in the season and avoid injury. Better for them that the team lose 7-6 than win 2-1. 6 goals divied up are better for their stats than 2 goals and the stats will influence their contract. Older players with guaranteed contracts (BTW millionaires) have only pride to play for, except in the final year of the contract. Only the younger players should play hard to get their stats and hence long term millionaire contract. Now players don't like losing and are not necessarily smart. However, when Drury makes move after move proving that it is just a business, the Ranger players can't help noticing. The handling of Trouba and Goodrow over the summer were terrible. Now he doubles down announcing Kreider and Trouba are being offered around as proof no one is safe. So the one guy with toughness, Trouba is not going to light guys up (hey they might be his new teammates next year) and is even more of an example for everyone to take it easy. The other side of the coin, Drury would prefer that the Rangers who are getting most of the Cap, play more minutes and get the stats and not younger players who he will be negotiating on long term contracts in the future. Lav has probably been told to play the vets "they give you the best chance to win". This is a dark view of Drury but I think he deserves it. Good news here is that as we get closer to halfway through the season, I hope the desire to win will come through and the Rangers will turn it around. These are good players and in the end, we have one big advantage. We have Igor and the rest of them don't.

Drury did nothing in the off-season and all the teams around us got better. We have not been able to beat any of the three teams above us in the standings and we are no better than we were last year when we played Florida. This is on the GM.

TD. Yes something changed and a funk set Ina funk led by guys like Z and Trouba. The coach's response? Punish the young players. And that just pours gasoline on the fire. My point? Guys like Z and T are contributing big time to this mess. And expecting Lardiolette to alter his roster management tactics is akin to hoping we no snow this winter.

So lots of chatter a month ago about Laf making the Canadian roster. Of course he didn't. He's been horrid lately. Wake up boy. You wanna be one of the near future leadership team then get out of your funk. You have too much skill.

TDCHI - Yeah, I think a few of us have said that before so, yeah, we do know...When things go to shit like this for, i guess, internal reasons or multiple reasons, almost all of them look worse then before..But, I can't lie, ZBAD stuck out like two sore thumbs with his play as did Miller.....And Fox and Troubs were shells of their healthy selfs...and many others.But like many of us haves said, including you and me, let's see if they can get back on track with sensible and steady lines/combos iffff they get the proper handling and ice time management...we'll see Friday agaisnt your buddies!!

I feel Goodrow is missed and Drury fucked up with him and trouba.. Drury needs to go

Tdchi, miller, fox , trouchek and especially panarin and Igor made the team. And Schneider. The PP and goaltending they couldn't score at 5 on 5 . They aren't that good. But they fought back all the time. Unsure what happened.

It's easy to blame players like MILLER and TROUBA and ZIBANEJAD and LINDGREN and KREIDER and...well...you get the point...but truth is, once you start getting the list of players that we're blaming now, guess what folks? Your looking blaming the smoke and not the fire causing it. MILLER didn't just 'forget' to play defense. ZIBANEJAD didn't just turn 31 and fall off the proverbial cliff...these aren't players that have sustained career-altering injuries...and quite frankly, they don't seem like a hard-partying lot from what I can tell...certainly if they are, they're exceedingly discrete about it, since none of them have entered the NHLPA's treatment program...for anything, much less drugs or booze or...well anything...so guess what?! Maybe...and I'm just spit balling here...MAYBE the problem AIN'T the players. No one was really complaining about any of these guys last year...save for the one poster who has a personal vendetta against Z...There wasn't a problem last season. They were a GOOD team last season. They accumulated a FRANCHISE RECORD of 114 points...So let me ask this: Who here is ready to tell me that the subtraction of GOODROW, WHEELER, ROSLOVIC, GUSTAFSSON and WENNBERG made it all come crashing down? There is, in fact, a VERY strong argument that the 2024-25 Rangers are a much BETTER team than the 2023-24 team...So logic dictates that something has changed. And whatever that change is, it's been across the whole fucking team, because let me tell you, friends: This team looked like a ghost of itself on Monday. All of them. Not just the top six. Not just MILLER. Not just Z. All of them...I run the equation over and over again, and I come up with the same goddamn answer: It's the coach. There's literally no other plausible explanation...and back to MILLER? If the Rangers trade him tomorrow, I would bet any sum that us fans would be INSTANTLY regretting it and to the extend that some of us looked back on the Mattias NORSTROM trade as a pivotal moment for the team...when they COULD have gone one direction, but went the other and paid the price dearly.

Zibanejad like Texas? https://www.nhl.com/news/tyler-seguin-injury-status-update-december-4-2024

MF - for sure, the only two players i have ever used the words "brain farts" for! :)..But, damn, I LOVED Kovalev!

Miller has a little "frustrating Kovalev" in his system. The guy is a very talented athlete with a touch of blond. Maddening!

PJ - Like with ZBAD most of the season, it's a mystery why MILLER has been soo bad...Yeah, the brain farts are one thing but, by the end of last year he was playing a complete and pretty physical game...I was looking forward to a step up this year..then he face plants with undisciplined and selfish play....I'm still loathe to trade him though becasue I think he has everything...You would think he's a guy that the coaches could/should help with his mental game

RF- ZBad and Fox were named over the summer. Kakko is the only new invite so far

True on Miller…First it was he has to cover for Trouba mistakes….Then it was him and Fox aren’t a good pair….Now him and Schneider are a lousy pair….One common thread here…Miller is an underachieving mess….

Amongst all the craziness, soap opera stuff and poor performances, it hasn't all sucked...it's been great to see the emergence of Cuylle and Zac Jones and steps up by Kakkao and Schneider, until he was paired with Miller!!1, and the brief glimpses of Mancini and Berard

TDCHI - I've said the same thing many times..They were the 2nd best team in the NHL last year and they played their asses off, never quit and were a total well-knit team...WHich makes this season, after minimal player changes, so crazy and is best pointed at player-coach, player-GM dynamics (from the off-season and his latest lettr), including how Laviolette has handled his roster and slumping players in particular this year.......I'm just hoping he has learned and they get it back together with the kid line and the Laffy-TRo-Panarina line and set D pairs..That happens, then you worry about improving...But it's a long road

Hospo - Yep. In other words, Joel QUENVILLE. But my gut says unless the wheels REALLY fall off...i.e. they look like they're not gonna make the playoffs...I don't see LAVIOLETTE getting yanked. But who knows? I can say, with little doubt right now, it's the only way I see this season turning around. Teams playing like the Rangers are playing don't just wake up. But I defy them to prove me wrong. Hey. Who knows? Maybe Old Boy LAV decides he can learn new tricks. Well...not really new tricks...commonsense coaching that all modern coaches are and having been using for over a decade now...but let's not mince words.

Hospo - A gentle reminder that there was nothing dysfunctional about the Rangers from the deadline out, save for maybe some not-so-savvy decisions by the coach come the playoffs. This team was firing and really did look like they might challenge for the Cup. Honestly? Had they beaten Florida? I think they would've won it.

TDCHI - My bet is ifff they can Laviolette, the coach they go for will be picked for a quick turnaround THIS SEASON...which means the old boys club...But that isn't a guy you want long term..so it's a bit of a pickle....form both the team's standpoint and the potential candidates......that leads me to think it might be PECA depending on his standing

re: post-hit scrums/showboating, etc., there's just an overall change in the NHL and hockey in general...the enforcer is gone. Done. Finished. Yeah, you have a few throwbacks like REAVES and OLIVIER and DESLAURIUS still knuckledragging around out there...but it ain't like it was 20 years ago, when EVERY team had an enforcer. Used to be someone lays a solid hit on your guy, the enforcer went out the next shift for payback. There was a take-a-name philosophy. And those guys had LONG memories. So your solid open-ice hit? That might go unpunished for a shift or two or even a whole period...but the time would come up quick...now? The players now are prancing pansies compared to what they were in the 1970s, 1980s, and even the 1990s...but they've watched the tapes and they're infused with this notion that every hit needs retribution...that throwing gloves and sticking up for your teammate after a clean hit is part of the game...even though it's one of the stupidest things I think I've seen in modern hockey...just pure farce...nevertheless, the guys playing today see it as an integral part of team identity and "establishing" the tone...there IS a time and a place for it, but with the frequency now? It's horseshit...NOW...the showboating? I FUCKING LOVE IT. The Michigan. The Zegras. The between the legs over-the-shoulder shots? One hand? No hands? ALL AWESOME. Shows how unbelievably skilled the sport has become since it moved away from the thuggery of yesteryear. Less cool with some of the lame-ass cellies...like that assclown KUZNETSOV used to do...but the skilled in-play moves? Just friggin' awesome. Many, watching guys like Quinn HUGHES and FOX...well...not this season...do spin-arounds to dodge checks and skirt away clean? Fuckin' A right...ALL THAT SAID...if I'm on the ice and someone does that shit? You better believe I'm taking their number. That, right there, is a gifted, gold-embossed license to knock the ever-living FUCK outta someone the next they set foot on the ice...and if I'm a coach? That's exactly what I'm telling my guys...don't worry about it now. Don't worry about it next shift. In fact, don't worry about it this period. Next period? First fucking shift, line that shit up and knock him into next week.

re: the coach's seat, I can say this with almost ZERO doubt: The Rangers will NOT hire a guy...or girl...without professional coaching experience. That means no MESSIER. Certainly no RUPP. I also strongly doubt they'll tap the NCAA pool either...so scratch off a couple of my other favorites...Denver's Dave CARLE and Providence's Nate LEAMAN...and my dark horse candidate...former Union Coach(and ex-Ranger) Rick BENNETT. They will grab a coach with, AT BARE MINIMUM, experience on an NHL bench. Preferably one with head coaching experience...The more and more I think about it...the guy who is so prime for the picking is Todd NELSON. What he's done in Hershey is amazing. That team is just nails. Another name to take a look at? Mitch LOVE. But there ain't any way the Caps are going to let that dude go without a fight.

A couple of things on Hughes: 1 someone (can’t remember who) suggested we drafted Kakko over Hughes? Couldn’t tell if that was a joke. There was never any question on who the Devils were taking, but it was definitely some media driven drama that Kakko was busy and more NHL ready. Obviously total conjecture to get clicks, lol. I got one am still loving Kakko’s game. Yeah he should shoot (on net more) but I have confide either him on the ice. On Hughes: of course I hate him because he’s a Devil and he shows us up. He’s a bit of a showboat, but he’s good and I think he’s a good kid. I knew his dad and played with his dad on Long Island during my high school and college years. I would have thought they were Islanders fans, but maybe they were Rangers.

SCREW HUGHES!! I'd rather hate him than any Ranger other then ZBAD! But there sure is a lot of hate for the Range players now---Troubs, Miller, Krider, Kakkao, ZBad......In dysfunctional teams liek the Rangers have been turned into, almost everybody looks worse then they are.....I hope the refocus this week and the new old lines works but afraid a loss to a hot Penguin team will be a last straw

The HUGHES story is rather fascinating, TBH, for anyone who hasn't read up on it. They're actually another example of how the hockey gentry caters to its progeny, and how kids who grow up in that environment pretty much have an open door to walk through into the college/juniors and ultimately professional ranks, where as the schlubs off the street really have to work twice as hard, pay twice as much and be absolutely flawless to get there...but I digress...Jim, their father, and his brother Marty grew up in Islander country: Hicksville, Long Island. Jim, older by about a decade, was a standout at Providence College and, talk about coincidences, was there when Lou LAMORIELLO was still in the mix, albeit after he left the coach's seat...Marty, as it happens, also played four years of D1 at BC...anywho, Jim ended up a coach with the Solar Bears in Orlando, which is where Quinn and Jack came along, and then bounced over to Manchester Monarchs in New Hampshire, where Luke came into the picture. The whole lot of them, though, grew up in the Toronto area, because Jim was director of player development for the Leafs...FWIW, Jack was a USNTDP product and was coming up around the time when the Hawks were king. He says Patrick KANE was his favorite player growing up...Anywho, I hate the Devils, can't stand 90 percent of their team...but Jack HUGHES? Just can't hate the dude. Truly maginificent hockey player. The closest he's come to being an asshat was that stupid 'people pay to see me play' comment...even that was...well...true. Nevertheless, the chances he ever straps on a Rangers jersey are slim and none. And slim beat feet outta town last week.

MF/PJ - PJ's memory is a little better!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rchnlZ-SOrw...Del Zotto and Dubinsky too

DD drury usually sits on his hands. I’m don’t know which fingers he’s using and whether he plays switch when sucking his thumb.

PJ: jog your memory, IIRC Anisimov motioned like he had a "bow & arrow" and glided on one skate and one knee as he pointed to the sky firing an arrow. :-)

VCP/E - This has been going on for a few years where not a single fan wants retribution for a clean hit...Somehow, in this new generation of players it became practice when it never was before..And a lot has been written on it and the NHL wants it gone also..I think in 2023-24, 1/3rd of all fights were in response to a clean hit..........And agree/have been saying the only way the Rangers can internally dig out of this is with lines the moron Laviolette has finally gone back to..For 3 weeks they have been playing like a team with no chemistry and in it's first few pre-season games with cockamamey line shuffles....All lines will not have that excuse any further

RF4L - I understand all that on ZBAD all too well..but he is the one contract DRURY has to really get out from if he can..The others are or will be much easier to do....Only reason i even mentioned it for VAN/MILLER is the major baggage on Miller also..And like I said, deals are really hard to do right now for the Rangers except bad ones

E: Spot on. The fact that a player has to fight after delivering a big, clean hit has been one of the most annoying developments in the league over the last few years. I would gladly support rule changes to address that specific issue. This weekend is the perfect opportunity to get this production back on track. There's been several days off to stew and practice heading into 3 games in four days against lousy/mediocre teams. There's no reason not to go on a three-game winning streak. Keep these forward lines and d-pairs intact. Could be the last best chance to right the ship.

Hospo: Why would the Canucks want fading Zbad, especially with that ridiculous contract. If he was to go to Vancouver the Rangers would either have to eat half his contract (making the Miller contract untenable) or sweeten the deal ala Z and Miller for Miller. You know any team talking to the Rangers about Z are fully aware of his slippage that started a year ago and has gotten progressively worse over time. Yes, perhaps a change of scenery would snap him out of it, but what if this is reality (re Z is actually on the downside of his career)? That would be potentially job-ending move!

I remember years ago Anisomov scored vs Tampa Bay….He skated to the bench and lifted his stick like it was a rifle and pointed it at the TB goalie…In a second he was attacked by Lecavalier….Lesson taught and lesson learned…..We have nobody to play this role….Goodrow was the last one we had….They have screwed up Rempe so bad he doesn’t know whether to fight or shite his pants….

We need to build around mancini, miller , and Schneider. Fox hopefully is our only small D man. Playoffs get ugly. We need 2 D men, and then some forwards lolol

Goodrow is a bigger absence than folks realize.drury is an asssss.o know the CAP..trouba and Lindgren seem to slow but fox isn't fast either.mancini , Schneider and miller are the only guys besides tiny Jones

VT: without a doubt. 100% agree. I think as much as possible you let them play. And I’ll go another step. I hate the idea that someone thumps you and you have to fight. You got hit. Clean shot. Pick up your bucket and get back in the play. This idea that a single check gets you a fight is ridiculous. It makes skill players play softer. They don’t wanna lay someone out because they’ll get jumped and have to spend box time. If you hurt the guy, fine. But some of this retaliation garbage gotta go. And as for the Rangers? Something is wrong in that locker room and in my eyes the coach may ultimately pay and maybe that’s because Drury has eyes on coach Q. Who knows? But right now? It’s not like Laviolette is sleep walking thru this. If anything I’ve been aggravated with how much he’s been line tinkering. In my eyes I never would’ve broken up Trocheck unit and I think the Chytl line is the best line on the team on most nights. And finally Hamilton can go fux himself. But if the Rangers wanna shut the NJD up how about next time they give a good spirited effort? The loss to NJ was a culmination of everything that’s been going wrong coming out at once. I have no room for the other nonsense

RF4L - Honestly, I think the only trades the Rangers can make right now would be bad ones..say KAKKAO..MILLER (I know many disagree on the latter)...There can be some fringe deals but that's just noise..I know it sounds nuts but The JT Miller rumors still intrigue me, not that I am pushing for him and i don't know what is going on with him..but say ZBAD (if he gives permission) and LINDGREN (this is his last year as a Ranger) for Miller and ?

Why not just consult with these guys and "keep the coach" or direct the NYR Brass & Coaches, "TO THE WALL!" :->)

PJ - The Hamilton crap and I think Noesen did it also were 10 times worse the anything Hughes did..That said, Hughes is the one you need to take out..And the Rangers can play physical at times but other then Trouba (maybe Carrick), they rarely get mad, dirty or look for pay back..Team Choir Boy as epitomized by the assistant captains

E: I agree--let the prancers do their magic. But, on the flip side, I don't want to hear any complaints when a d-man sends one into the third row when the prancer is too focused on showing off and not aware of who is around him.

Vally was referring to the Hughes breakaway and the move Hughes made that Vally says is to embarrass the goalie…Ok in shootout but not during game…I didn’t understand it either but he was really pissed about it….That said both he and Maloney called out the Rangers for not pushing back….Hamilton taunting the crowd etc….They are both right and it was as upsetting as the loss….Rangers lack of intensity and emotion is appalling….Oh and someone blast Hughes every chance they get….Can’t stand him…

Zegras is a punk but he does the most interesting things. He once went behind the net and picked up the puck and lobbed it over the top to I think Milano who banged it out of the air and in. The Sabre goalie literally had no idea where the puck came from and how it got in the net. One of the craziest deliberate ways of scoring I’ve ever seen. But my point is, Vally would think that too broke some weird code. Why? Because a player has some of the best hands I’ve ever seen and he tried all kinds of things. He even did the Michigan from behind his teammate using him to block the goalies eyes. The goalie never saw it and when he dropped to cover the post as one would expect Zegras had the puck resting on his blade. I think hockey needs to show greatness. And if Hughes tried to take Shesterkin off the puck with some move, maybe Igor should stop the puck and Vally shouldn’t sit there complaining that some magician with the puck was trying to turn a goalie inside out to get his team a goal. Sometimes I hate these hockey purist idiots who apply some weird honor code of things you aren’t allowed to do. I remember when Hertl went between the legs and all I could think was, damn… killer shot. Tortorella was responding to questions of showboating. I had a better idea. Maybe Marty Biron should’ve stopped the puck.

Hire another bad coach so Drury gets canned. Then sather comes back lololol I can't help myself lolol..Mets owner are you a rangers fan please buy us.

Peca played with a lot of gumption and courage. Would he coach the same way (re expect his players to play similarly)? I've no idea but he did garner some great accolades as a head coach in the amateur ranks although he's never been a head coach in a professional league. Definitely worth considering IMO - at least he wouldn't be the same old same old retread (on paper anyways).

I take peca also he played at this level for years .... How do you listen to someone who hasnt ..shortlived but GG played long career must be this bunch it's pretty obvious.

E - so true on HUGHES. Granted I don’t really follow the kid that much, but 2-3 interviews I have seen he has been nothing but class. Especially towards NYR. Pretty obvious he was a NYR fan and wanted to be here. Add the dagger that our picked next 2OA is a middling scoring, non physical guy with good possession numbers. Whoop de damn doo. Just a perfect storm of awfulness.

I'm for Mike Peca as interim coach. He knows the team, has paid his dues and would not be a retread. He also might take the job. Given the turnover in the job and the direction of the team, a lot of guys with longer resumes might pass on it. If he turns it around remove the interim. If not him and Drury are gone after the season.

TD: Brunette intrigues me. I worry that Sullivan would be too old school. Moot however, because neither are available. I've got zero comments on the other names you toss out other than to agree that going the college coach route is probably tainted for Drury given the DQ disaster.

So it's all silent on the Ranger front. Wonder what's going on internally. Too bad Dreary Drury has zero sense of PR.